[12:36] <Mate> hi. how could i get debug symbols for upstart=1.5-0ubuntu7.2? it's missing from precise-updates on ddebs.ubuntu.com (but arm* is there)
[18:03] <bladernr`> anyone around?
[18:03] <bladernr`> What should I file a bug against for the live USB environment?
[18:03] <bladernr`> specifically, persistent storage doesn't seem to work on my 14.04 USB stick
[18:04] <davmor2> bladernr_: interesting one
[18:04] <davmor2> bladernr_: possibly casper
[18:04] <bladernr_> davmor2: yeah, it kinda sucks... I spent 2 hours installing packages to one only to find out they all disappeared after I reboot :(
[18:04] <davmor2> bladernr_: but maybe have a word with cyphermox
[18:05] <bladernr_> cyphermox estas aqui?
[18:05] <bladernr_> davmor2: I will have pie next month.
[18:05] <davmor2> bladernr_: did you do a persistent install, it might be that the usb installer screwed up
[18:05] <cyphermox> sí
[18:05] <davmor2> bladernr_: oh why you in London
[18:06] <cyphermox> bladernr_: how did you setup that usb stick>
[18:06] <bladernr_> I created it using usb-creator-gtk (Startup Disk Creator) and specified a 4GB persistent file (on a 16GB stick) and the installation appeared successful (I can boot it and do stuff)
[18:07] <cyphermox> was usb-creator up to date, and which version of usb-creator? I think I remember something about this recently?
[18:07] <bladernr_> So as above, after that, I booted from it, installed a ton of stuff, rebooted and the ton of stuff was gone.
[18:07] <bladernr_> ummm hold on.
[18:07] <bladernr_> Yeah, according to apt-cache, 0.2.56.3 from trusty-updates
[18:08] <cyphermox> yeah, might be broken
[18:08] <cyphermox> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-creator/0.2.66
[18:09] <cyphermox> I'll try to get the SRU soon for the persistence part, guessing you're booting in EFI
[18:09] <bladernr_> Ahhh... interesting.  I did boot in EFI mode
[18:09] <davmor2> bladernr_: fancy not knowing that do you not just sit there all day reading bug reports ;)
[18:09] <cyphermox> it's easy to check, in the grub menu verify whether you have 'persistent' set as a command-line parameter for the kernel
[18:11] <davmor2> bladernr_: man just as well I know cyphermox rocks right ;)
[18:12] <bladernr_> cyphermox: where would that be on the live stick?  etc/grub.d?  in which case there's no instance of "persistent" in any boot option.
[18:13] <bladernr_> davmor2: I know he does
[18:13] <cyphermox> /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[18:13] <bladernr_> davmor2: he works harder than the two of us combined
[18:13] <bladernr_> ^^ that's not saying much
[18:13] <bladernr_> cyphermox: no such thing.
[18:13] <cyphermox> oops
[18:14] <cyphermox> ok, hold on :)
[18:14] <davmor2> bladernr_: I have to break his stuff to you know
[18:14] <bladernr_> come on now, we know you just use a bunch of shell scripts for that ;-)
[18:14] <davmor2> bladernr_: I wish
[18:15] <bladernr_> sudo ./do_daily_work.sh --time 8h --user davmor2 --no-interrupt-nap
[18:15] <davmor2> bladernr_: hahahahahahahaha love it
[18:17] <cyphermox> bladernr_: heh, I can't find it either right now, but I also didn't use usb-creator to make this usb key
[18:18] <bladernr_> cyphermox: no worries... to double check, I'll do it the hard way (reboot and examine them from the menu then)
[18:20] <cyphermox> looks like usb-creator would mangle any *.cfg in boot/grub
[18:21] <bladernr_> damn... I could have just looked at /proc/cmdline too.
[18:21] <bladernr_> :/
[18:23] <bladernr_> in any case, when I boot the EFI launcher, the grub menu does not include 'persist' in the kernel boot options.  After booting the Legacy loader instead, /proc/cmdline DOES show persistent in the options.  I'll try again that way :)
[18:23] <bladernr_> cyphermox: ^^
[18:23] <cyphermox> you mean in non-EFI?
[18:23] <cyphermox> that's expected
[18:24] <bladernr_> yeah, non-EFI
[18:24] <cyphermox> right
[18:24] <cyphermox> gfxboot-theme-ubuntu does add it, but only just before starting the kernel, that's why you don't see it in F6
[18:24] <bladernr_> yep, I thought as much.  the boot menu on this server gives me both options so I'd been booting in EFI until now.
[18:25] <cyphermox> like I said, it's a matter of preparing the SRU for that fix from Yu Ning
[18:25] <cyphermox> in the meantime, you can add 'persistent' yourself unless it's lots more work
[18:25] <davmor2> bladernr_: so you in london I don't think you did answer me
[18:25] <cyphermox> ... or edit whatever file is in boot/grub/*.cfg to add it there, should be enough to convince things to work
[18:27] <bladernr_> cyphermox: ok... thanks!
[18:28] <bladernr_> davmor2: on the way back from a sprint in early May I'm doing an overnight layover in London.  Staying out by LHR but gonna come into the city for a while to do ... stuff... not sure what yet.  There will be Pie... and likely Filipino or Curry... not sure yet.
[18:30] <roadmr> curry pie
[18:31] <bladernr_> roadmr: there IS that...
[18:31] <roadmr> yum :)
[18:31] <bladernr_> Now if only we could have sprints in Montreal again... I miss the good Poutine.
[18:31] <bladernr_> and smoked meat.
[18:35] <pieter2627> How would new peeps get involved in solving bugs (specifically papercuts as described on the bugsquad wiki)?
[20:00] <brendand> bladernr_, you want *really* good asian food
[20:01] <brendand> bladernr_, the place - http://www.tayyabs.co.uk/
[20:01] <brendand> bladernr_, - you *will* need to queue :)!