[00:11] Aww, devel-proposed on Flo installed via MultiROM Manager just reboots. [00:32] how can I press ctrl+X in terminal using nano? [00:34] The newest Terminal app added support for this. [00:39] hi all === chriadam|away is now known as chriadam [00:59] my modules installed to /lib/modules instead of /lib/modules/`uname -r`. and for now i can't do modprobe (look in /lib/modules/3.4.0-cyanogenmod-g67427e6/). insmod doesn't work too. how to fix this? [01:11] 268 people< would figure there would be someone here to help. [01:12] Elimin8er: I'm logged into IRC 24/7, and connect to my client on a virtual server from time to time. That's how most people use IRC. [01:13] That way I can scroll back and catch up on important channels. [01:13] But more importantly, it's 12:15am or 1:15am for most of the engineers working on Ubuntu. [01:14] nhaines, Yes I know that.. but you would think someone would be around [01:15] Why would one think that? [01:15] Pard me, im American [01:15] So am I. [01:15] !patience [01:15] Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/ [01:16] Its ok, I havent even asked a question.. I wouldnt know how to ask what I need help withm [01:16] IRC etiquette means that typically there's not a lot of "I don't know" repsonses. [01:17] It doesn't mean that no one's around. It just means that no one's available with an answer. [01:18] ill give it a try, I have built alot of CM roms for a few diffrent devices, No problem there.. But I have problems trying to port this ubuntu-touch to my LG G3 (d851).. I get sometning about cant find config specs for cm_d851, Which might be my first mistake. [01:19] Does Ubuntu-Touch allow you to use cm sources? [01:19] Not that I'm aware of. AOSP only. [01:19] I keep hearing other people use cm as well [01:20] there isnt really device spec for the d851 [01:20] asop even [01:20] even the guide kept talking about going off of cm [01:21] cm would make it simple to port.. AOSP would make it a little more harder. === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === tmpRAOF is now known as RAOF === LarrySteeze|Away is now known as LarrySteeze === _salem is now known as salem_ === salem_ is now known as _salem [03:15] dobey: The SDK provides a bit more than just a UI for the build tools. Code completion, syntax highlight, context sensitive help, API documentation, manifest and apparmor file creation, project conversion, device detection and so on. The Ubuntu SDK is a tool itself. The milage to acomplish several development task is much less with the SDK than with plain CLI tools. === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [06:41] good morning [06:42] morning [06:42] dholbach: I got my Nexus 7 today, but it appears that MultiROM Manager + Ubuntu doesn't work so well. :) [06:42] I'll try the dualboot app soon. Maybe when vivid looks more useful. [06:43] * dholbach crosses fingers :) [06:44] I noticed there is an unfamiliar card for me on trello board: "Regression Testing: ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed Arale 157" Is Arale is a codename for an other device? For MX4? :) === iahmad_ is now known as iahmad === kickinz1|afk is now known as kickinz1 [07:51] How can I download a mail attachment from dekko? It is always show the content-hub. But I only want to download to the downloads folder. [07:53] note to self: write an app which can "open" everything and store it wherever [07:55] brunch875: So I think I can't do this yet. Right? [07:55] robin-hero: does filemanager not come up as a destination when downloading the attachment? [07:55] it doesn't [07:55] DanChapman: No, it's not on the app's list [07:56] brunch875, heh, that would be an interesting challenge given that our security model doesnt allow apps to write outside of their cache dir in your home ... [07:56] (filemanager excepted here ... ) [07:57] CHALLENGE ACCEPTED [07:57] haha [07:57] robin-hero: hmm that's a bug then. I'm not sure if that's a dekko or filemanager bug though. Need to check that as really filemanager should appear for any mimetype in my opinion [07:58] should probably file a bug for downloading stuff like this [07:58] it's not only dekko [07:58] it happens with the web browser too [08:01] heh, I solved it. :) Downloaded with wget from terminal :) [08:02] unfortunately this doesn't work with redirection mazes which are common in some webpages for downloads [08:02] :< [08:06] robin-hero: :-D that works. or you could have looked in /tmp after dekko downloaded it and you would have found it === james is now known as Guest77917 [08:15] hello, how to display Notification (from app ) to the tap named Notifications in status bar? [08:16] the tab named Notifications in status bar [08:20] hello ? [08:21] I'm sorry, I can't help :x [08:21] I haven't started making apps myself [08:22] ^_^ [08:22] don't worry, devs will eventually read your question. They're just working hard and check this chat via polling :p [08:26] Guest77917: did you check this? https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/apps/platform/guides/push-notifications-client-guide/ [08:28] thanks very much! [08:28] cheers man! Happy hacking [08:55] morningv:) [08:56] Good morning Se7! [08:56] hey brunch875 <3 [08:56] how are you? [08:57] My back aches! I think I got ill [08:57] hopefully I only slept in a bad position [08:58] or to much exercise in the bed :P [08:59] Hah, now I undestand what they mean by "sleep tight" [08:59] lol [09:02] i was thinking that is it s a bit weird that you can answer messages without unlock the phone [09:03] well, it's definitely more comfortable [09:03] Good morning all; happy Draw a Picture of a Bird Day! :-D [09:03] is it? === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away [09:03] is it, really? [09:03] Se7, there is a setting to disable that === marcusto_ is now known as marcustomlinson_ [09:04] o.0 really [09:04] in the lock settings [09:04] * Se7 have a look [09:05] you can disable the launcher and the notification list [09:06] JamesTait: done and done http://imgur.com/5DXlcBl [09:06] nothifications and quick setting? [09:07] Very good, brunch875! === marcustomlinson_ is now known as marcustomlinson [09:08] Se7, right [09:08] tnx ogra_ :) [09:09] I personally would remove my lock, but I need it to enable developer mode [09:09] yeah, that will be fixed within the next months [09:10] hoorray! [09:10] * ogra_ just needs a bit of time to update the adbd sources, then i'll start working on key authentication ... that will make passwords useless [09:11] the adb we ship is still quite old [09:11] it's april, which means... 15.04! [09:11] will phone also get updates like this? [09:11] no [09:12] he phone gets monthly updates ... only very remotely boound to the distro cycle [09:12] interesting... [09:13] but monthly it s too long no? [09:13] for the phone i mean [09:13] we will re-base the phone release on 15.04 soon, but then development and fixing goes on on top of that [09:13] I really looking forward for the next week's update, I don't want to charge my phone everyday :D [09:13] right ogra_ [09:13] battery life will improve? [09:14] brunch875: yes [09:14] i'm at 63% after 3 days here [09:14] much better [09:14] I'm surprised... my old phone lived half a day [09:14] 3 days 63%? [09:14] not every day robin-hero but you can solve a bug in a day maybe [09:14] you're kidding! [09:15] nope :) [09:15] and i think it s and i think it s better to give the fix a sson you got it [09:15] Se7, with 50 not found bugs ? [09:16] it needs serious testing before we release it to the masses [09:16] ogra_: 3 days 63% with normal use? [09:16] no, with not much use [09:16] yes ogra_ i agree [09:17] one/two calls a day, a few times checking and posting on G+ ... [09:17] for that i am annoying you :P [09:17] 2 days with normal use and 3-4 days with not much use is enough for me :) [09:18] if you actually use it i guess you get along with 2-3 days ... if you never wake it up i'd say you get ~8 days [09:18] for me 2 days using it a lot when i m working [09:18] http://i.imgur.com/UuOqvqW.png [09:18] proof ^^^ [09:19] ogra_: That sounds very cool, much better than my similiar Android phone. :) [09:19] (just dropped by 1% when i took the screenshot) [09:19] with bluethoot and gps on as well [09:19] On my Nexus 5, you boot up Ubuntu, on lock the phone, and then throw it as high up in the air as hard as you can. [09:19] yeah, i always use the defaults [09:19] Then the battery and gravity can have a race. [09:20] nhaines: :D [09:29] raceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/click", line 86, in sys.exit(main()) File "/usr/bin/click", line 82, in main return mod.run(args) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/click/commands/chroot.py", line 266, in run return args.func(parser, args) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/click/commands/chroot.py", line 68, in create return chroot.create(args.keep_broken_chroot) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/click/c === James is now known as Guest3974 [09:30] I'm getting good battery life on stock rtm on the bq phone (if the battery stats are accurate). I'm rarely getting below 70% on 1 day's use. I'm charging overnight out of habit rather than necessity. With such low battery usage, I'm wondering whether the restriction on background apps could be eased... :) [09:30] in create self._debootstrap(components, mount, archive) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/click/chroot.py", line 451, in _debootstrap archive File "/usr/lib/python3.4/subprocess.py", line 561, in check_call raise CalledProcessError(retcode, cmd) subprocess.CalledProcessError: Command '['debootstrap', '--arch', 'amd64', [09:30] , '--variant=buildd', '--components=main,restricted,universe,multiverse', 'vivid', '/var/lib/schroot/chroots/click-ubuntu-sdk-15.04-armhf', 'http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu']' returned non-zero exit status 2 [09:31] hello，error appear when create click target for armhf [09:32] mcphail: there's a way for background apps to get things done if they need to. :) [09:34] nhaines: an official way? [09:37] and no error appear when create desktop and i386 [09:38] mcphail: I'm pretty certain. [09:39] ??? [09:39] nhaines: is this a new thing? Up until now, apps have been stopped or killed when backgrounded [09:41] What is the best way to install debug symbols for Qt and libc on the device without breaking OTA updates? [09:43] or is there some way to load the debug symbols into the remote debugger and not mess with the device at all? [09:44] ogra_, do you know what could cause http://paste.ubuntu.com/10771459/? [09:45] dholbach, is the screen unlocked ? [09:46] (and did you make sure it stays unlocked while this is running) [09:46] ogra_, yes it is unlocked [09:46] weird [09:47] bad cable ? [09:47] I can connect using 'phablet-shell' [09:47] and it's working fine there [09:47] I blame the user. [09:47] heh [09:48] dholbach, well, worst case flash with the device in recovery ... that error output is a bit sparse [09:49] right, ok - I'll try that next then [09:49] thanks! [09:49] dholbach: wasn't me :) [09:49] liar ! [09:49] but I'll take the credit [09:49] hi all. how to remount system partition as rw? [09:50] sudo mount -o remount,rw / [09:51] (if you must) [09:51] mandel, do you see the ubuntu-phone ML ? [09:52] seems a user cant get his SD recognized [09:53] popey: thanks. but i have this mount: cannot remount /dev/loop1 read-write, is write-protected [09:53] ogra_, I deleted .cache/ubuntuimages/ and retried the flashing - now it worked [09:53] (for whatever reason) [09:53] dholbach, awesome [09:54] kernel modules not loading and depmod not work (read-only file system) [09:54] sergiusens, ^^^ didnt we change the error messages for u-d-f ? seems now it just silently dies if /cache is full [09:55] yacuken_off: is this on ubuntu phone? [09:55] yacuken_off, thats the message you get for exactly the command popey gave you ? [09:55] / should be on loop0 iirc [09:58] ogra_, yes, I do but at the end of the day [09:58] ogra_, let me search for it [09:58] popey: 1+1. i build ut and try load wlan module [09:59] ogra_: / is rw after popey command. remount without issues. [10:00] but kernel modules in /lib/modules -> /system/lib/modules. but /system is ro and write-protected [10:00] right, and has no space even if you make it writable [10:00] are you doin a port ? [10:01] yacuken_off, im also working on 1+1 port. have you seen this thread https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/wip-ubuntu-touch-for-oneplus-one.266170/page-43 [10:01] *doing [10:01] oh, i didnt get the 1+1 reference :P [10:02] pitti: hey! Are the langpack updates happening now? [10:02] did you guys consider forming a team ? i see three people working on the same device now [10:02] orga_, thanks for all your help :) finally got that dam firmware partition to mount. Now for the slew of other error messages to deal with lol [10:02] haha [10:03] congrats at least :) [10:03] im working off mariogrip's work. havent seen him in awhile tho :( === kickinz1 is now known as kickinz1|afk [10:03] ah, cool [10:04] i saw him join the channel recently, but staying quiet === kickinz1|afk is now known as kickinz1 [10:07] spazzymoto: hi. it's good) [10:09] spazzymoto: do you have wlan work? [10:10] yacuken_off, not yet :(. mariogrip created another channel for 1+1 if u want to chat there? ##UbuntuTouchForOPO === yacuken_off is now known as yacuken [10:13] sil2100: I tried to re-upload them immediately, but they still went into a black hole; apparently launchpad has some internal gpg key cache [10:13] spazzymoto: try build wlan as module. it work for my sailfish port and may be we can load this module in ut? https://github.com/yacuken/android_kernel_oneplus_msm8974/commit/c811e42f4f8c2f6a610c24a3d0b3766d0e9ee22d [10:13] sil2100: I'll check tomorrow's uploads, and if they still get eaten I'll take this up with Colin/William again [10:15] yacuken, cool thanks ill try that this evening after work [10:16] spazzymoto: me too =) [10:16] pitti: ok, thanks :) === yacuken is now known as yacuken_off [10:44] hey can I install ubuntu on my android tablet? [10:44] ubuntu-touch* [10:44] !devices | ANJ7 [10:44] ANJ7: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices [10:45] depends which device [10:45] http://img6a.flixcart.com/image/tablet/w/z/p/hcl-u1-400x400-imad8ty9yheahphp.jpeg [10:45] this one ^^ [10:47] well, if it isnt on the device page you will need the sourcecode for the installed android and can do a port ... this is a pretty advanced thing though [10:47] oh, there are only 3 devices on the page btw [10:51] ANJ7: scroll down [10:52] oh, got it. But my tab isn't mentioned there [10:52] there's your answer [10:57] popey, do you use ubuntu-touch? [11:01] i dont but i would love to [11:03] ANJ7: yes [11:05] popey: what device? [11:05] I would like to buy a cheap one with pre-installed ubuntu on it [11:05] ANJ7: a few [11:06] I have two bq phones and a nexus 7 === benonsoftware is now known as clockwork === clockwork is now known as benonsoftware [11:13] Hm, if you put a Nexus 4 on german eBay and offer to ship it with Ubuntu you seem to get higher bids than with Android alone [11:15] Am I right If I'm say there is no really turn-by-turn navigation app for UT yet? [11:15] robin-hero: Yes [11:16] sturmflut-work: Thanks, I hope it changes soon. [11:18] robin-hero: A port of OsmAnd would be nice, but the app is so Android-specific it will probably not be possible [11:19] I personally prefer Waze, but I'd statistied any navigation app now :D [11:21] robin-hero: on the official device set here maps to walk rather than drive that gives you the option to access their beta turn by turn [11:21] popey, Intenso MicroSDXC 64GB Class10 [11:24] davmor2: thanks, I'll try it sometime [11:25] popey, sorry, havent found an english page (and amazon doesnt seem to have it) http://www.mediamarkt.de/mcs/product/INTENSO-Micro-SDXC-Card-64-GB-Class-10,48353,464136,1143673.html?langId=-3&uympq=vpqr&gclid=COvMpa_M5sQCFafItAodzjgAuw [11:26] robin-hero: Well, Waze is not the friendliest company. I prefer OpenStreetMap-based offline data since I contributed a lot to OpenStreetMap and I'm often traveling without Internet access. Also I don't like to be tracked. [11:27] popey, ah, here http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intenso-Micro-Class-Speicherkarte-SD-Adapter/dp/B00FMB9A30 === tmpRAOF is now known as RAOF [11:34] thanks ogra_ [11:35] * popey adds to wishlist [11:37] nhaines: did you put devel-proposed on your n7? [11:43] I uninstalled "Remainders", but yesterday showed up in an update. Does someone know why? Should I report the problem? Against which package exactly? [11:44] dadexix86: maybe its because its a default app of ubuntu touch, it comes back? [11:44] it shouldnt come back [11:44] lotuspsychje, no, it does not shows up in the apps now :) [11:45] renatu: hi! vivid silo 004 would have the bug #1437300 fix, would you have time to execute the test plan / do your own manual testing and then report on which device + image the silo was tested? I've been running the autopilot tests and it seems to be ok clock + address book but I'm for some reason unable to have the dialer app autopilot tests running for unknown reason (probably unrelated to the silo) [11:45] bug 1437300 in qtpim-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "Missing detailTypesHint property on QDeclarativeOrganizerItemFetchHint" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1437300 [11:45] dadexix86: wich image have you installed? [11:45] lotuspsychje, r20 [11:46] dadexix86: i mean wich channel on wich device [11:46] on the bq, the stable (I guess it is the stable, since I did not switch to other branches) [11:47] ok [11:48] dadexix86: maybe file a bug, if its not already an existing one [11:48] lotuspsychje, against which package? ofono? [11:48] ofono is for telephony stuff ... :) [11:48] not sure mate sorry [11:49] as long as you can make calls, send SMS and get 3G data it is surely not ofono :) [11:49] dadexix86, where did you see that update, in system-settings ? [11:50] ogra_, yes, the standard updates from there [11:50] so start at system-settings ... (most likely not the fault of the UI app indeed, but a good entry point [11:50] ) [11:51] ogra_, what about click update manager? can that be the program? [11:51] Elleo: thanks for trying to schedule the bug to the next sprint! [11:52] dadexix86, not sure where you see that [11:52] ogra_, it is already signaled bug #1404030 [11:52] bug 1404030 in click-update-manager (Ubuntu) "uninstalled apps should not show up when checking for updates" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1404030 === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:54] hmm, we dont have that package on the phone anymore [11:56] Mirv: no worries :) [11:56] ogra_, then we should remove it from the avengers list :) [11:58] dadexix86, i added the right task to get it onto pmcgowan's radar [11:59] dandrader: done. [11:59] er, dadexix86 done [11:59] popey, thanks :) [11:59] popey, i assume you dont have any idea either where that was merged into ? [11:59] system settings innit? [12:00] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+filebug [12:00] ah, there is no backend tool anymore ? [12:00] seb128: might know [12:02] I wrote it into system settings #1441594 [12:03] bug #1441594 [12:03] bug 1441594 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "Update shows uninstalled packages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1441594 === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [12:08] dadexix86, hmm, would habe been better to just add a system image task to the other bug [12:08] err system-settings [12:09] (especially since you already commented there) [12:13] ogra_, I am definitely ignorant about it. I do not know what a "task" is :) But I thought that since a package is no longer present there (and probably no more maintained) it would have been better to report it to a "current" package. [12:14] well, i added a task for the product team to the old bug [12:14] so they have it on the radar and can also find the right package [12:14] (as i told you above) [12:17] ogra_, now I understand, thank you :) should I mark the second as a duplicate of the first? [12:17] i'll care for it after talking to pmcgowan once he is up [12:17] ok thanks :) [12:21] thanks for reporting it dadexix86 === _salem is now known as salem_ [12:30] ogra_, hey [12:34] pmcgowan, yo [12:34] everything good? [12:34] pmcgowan, see bug 1404030 ... not sure where that should go nowadays [12:34] bug 1404030 in click-update-manager (Ubuntu) "uninstalled apps should not show up when checking for updates" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1404030 [12:34] (the package seems to have vanished) [12:35] ogra_, popey: what was the question? [12:35] thats odd. ok will check later [12:35] seb128, click-update-manager ... is that replaced by system-settings or is that another component [12:36] ogra_, settings is only an UI, what was c-u-m doing? [12:36] I guess the backend is ubuntu-download-manager [12:36] seemingly updating the click packages :) [12:36] yeah [12:37] ah, poor mandel then ... this day is full of bugs for him [12:38] stgraber, ogra_ is the hash in the names of touch tarballs related to that of the tarball contents? [12:39] janimo, there is a hash ? [12:40] i think thats only genrated when the file gets imported into the pool directory [12:41] ogra_, well it looks like a sha256sum but it may be just a UUID generated from someting else [12:41] Mirv, I will do, thanks [12:41] ogra_, having the name be the hash of the file contents would have been nice [12:41] janimo, well, thats stgraber land ... not sure, it might actually be [12:42] ogra_, popey, dadexix86, the issue you were discussing is bug #1314382 [12:42] bug 1314382 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "Updates shown for pre-installed apps which have been uninstalled" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1314382 [12:42] Could anyone answer this, Does Ubuntu-Touch build with CM sources or does it have to be only AOSP ? I seen alot of CM areas in the repo manifest, thats why im asking.. and it would be easier to port if it did. [12:43] * ogra_ hugs seb128 [12:43] thanks !! [12:43] \o/ [12:43] * seb128 hugs ogra_ back [12:43] we need somebody to work on the updates code [12:43] quite some issues/bugs in those settings [12:43] seb128, thanks! :) [12:44] seb128, but in my case it does not come back in the Apps scope :) [12:45] dadexix86, I guess part of the issue got resolved on the click scope side [12:45] dobey might know some details [12:51] Elimin8er: Sorry, the lower levels are not my area of expertise :/ [12:52] sturmflut-work, its ok.. I was only wondering.. I have had no luck in porting [12:54] Elimin8er: The Porting guide states "Note that this guide focuses on porting to devices present in the AOSP tree and another version will focus on CyanogenMod based ports", so that would mean that you can do a port based on AOSP alone, doesn't it? [12:54] mzanetti, ping [12:55] jhodapp, hey ya [12:55] sturmflut-work, the manifest has alot of CM downloads.. thats why I asked. or else I wouldnt have asked [12:55] and I seen alot of prting gues that say dif things [12:55] guides even [12:55] mzanetti, hey man, do you know if your game that you made that uses the SoundEffect QML component still works well on the latest images? [12:56] jhodapp, is this about that pop-that-wrap game bug? [12:56] Elimin8er, our recovery is still based on CM ... the whole rest is AOSP [12:57] mzanetti, not sure what the name of the game is, but you filed the bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/media-hub/+bug/1373088 [12:57] Ubuntu bug 1373088 in Media Hub "QML Audio {} element blocks for ~200 ms on play()" [Medium,New] [12:57] mzanetti, there is another bug report of someone trying to use SoundEffect but they don't always get sound output [12:57] thank you.. [12:57] jhodapp, yeah, that's the one I meant (the latter one) [12:58] jhodapp, in regard to the first one, I think that's still the case, but my game doesn't use Audio that much any more... [12:58] jhodapp, basically I only start the Audio element during transitions of the screen where it is not noticeable [12:58] audio on phones is overrated anyway ... people should be happy they get pretty pictures :P [12:59] mzanetti, ok, but you always get audio in your game? === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [12:59] ogra_: found a cheaper one... http://www.memorybits.co.uk/shop/microsd/sandisk-64gb-ultra-microsdxc-plus-sd-adapter-sdsdquan064gg4a/28252 [13:00] jhodapp, I would say yes, but in my game there is a lot of stuff happening, can't tell if some of the audioeffects are missing [13:00] popey, then try it ;) [13:00] (thats the brand of 32GB I currently use) [13:00] I will! :D [13:00] the next one i spend money for will be 128G [13:00] mzanetti, ok great, just trying to collect some info about it...thanks! [13:00] jhodapp, I can reproduce that bug with the linked branch if I touch those bubbles quickly [13:01] mzanetti, to where you don't get audio every time? [13:02] yes [13:02] mzanetti, ok that's great to know [13:02] jhodapp, works for the first 10 times, then audioeffect stops playing for like 5 bubbles [13:02] that's when it prints that pulseaudio stream error [13:02] mzanetti, this is either a qtmultimedia bug or a pulse audio bug then [13:02] and then it recovers for a few bubbles [13:03] yeah very interesting, seems a pulse issue [13:04] mzanetti, thanks for the info [13:04] jhodapp, np [13:04] Wellark: ping [13:05] ogra_: yeah, they're still quite spendy... http://www.memorybits.co.uk/shop/search/sandisk-ultra-128gb-microsdxc-uhsi-memory-card-with-sd-adapter/27444 [13:10] Why does the bq phone specify "max 32GB" for SD cards? Is it simply because they don't expect to be able to reformat from exfat? [13:19] mcphail: they probably didn't test larger [13:21] seb128, dadexix86: i actually haven't encountered that issue in quite some time. i think there was some fix in click itself that resolved it. there's nothing special in the scope to deal with that situation [13:34] Does anybody have an idea why my Aquaris E4.5 doesn't automatically update from r16 to r20? [13:35] even if you go to system-settings -> updates ? [13:36] ogra_: Jep, tried that. It updates individual apps, but it never offers a more recent image. [13:37] ogra_: Is there a logfile for the updater? === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [13:37] Mirv: do you know if the standard for naming packages for QML plugin libraries is documented anywhere ? [13:37] ogra_, what is going on today?? agh [13:38] sturmflut-work, /var/log/system-image/ has it (needs sudo to read it) [13:38] ogra_, is bug number 1404030, right? [13:38] sturmflut-work, also check if there is a system-image process in your processlist ... that might be blocking [13:38] sturmflut-work: is this an issue with having previously mounted / rw? [13:39] I need to re-write that thing from the ground up and hunt down who wrote it and have a long chat with him [13:39] mandel, we have three bogs now ... 1314382 1404030 and 1441594 [13:39] need to merge them into one [13:41] mcphail: I don't think so. AFAIR the device never offered to update the image since the moment I opened the packaging. [13:41] ogra_, I must have been a horrible person in the past :-/ [13:41] lol [13:42] sturmflut-work: mine definitely offered me the update on first boot [13:42] mcphail: Yeah, I read a lot of reports on G+ about the device immediately updating to r20 after people got it [13:42] hey anyone know how to add qrc file to "QML app with C++ plugin (cmake)" project ? [13:43] well, we had such cases in the past, where an old system-image process was dangling around ... but that was supposed to be fixed ... and i havent heard about such issues in a long time [13:43] definitely not since the phone is out [13:43] mcphail, ogra_: I'll hunt it down, hopefully the problem doesn't fix itself before I find the reason [13:44] sturmflut-work, in any case file a bug against system-image [13:45] hey anyone know how to add qrc file to "QML app with C++ plugin (cmake)" project ? [13:46] leouss4dev: You may want to ask that question in #ubuntu-app-devel [13:46] thanks [13:46] leouss4dev: CMake has Qt integration, there is probably some command for this special purpose [13:47] yeah but I can't find it :/ [13:52] ogra_, mcphail: Interesting, the OTA update files were downloaded to /android/cache/recovery/ the first time the device connected to a WiFi. As expected. But after that I see python errors in the log file. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10773162/ [13:55] bfiller: florian things that we need to host qt-halide in a separate ppa from the main phablet-team one. is it possible to set up a new one under phablet-team ? [13:55] nerochiaro: why? [13:55] sturmflut-work, looks like a network error... [13:56] bfiller: he thinks that our apps PPA is not the right place since people interested in apps would be unlikely to be interested in the qt-halide library [13:56] bfiller: and vice versa, people only wanting to use the library won't care about the apps [13:57] nerochiaro: there are no apps in it, it's basically for testing so it's fine [13:57] nerochiaro: it's just temporary anyway, not worth setting up another ppa [13:57] nerochiaro: I'm talking about this ppa https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/ubuntu/ppa [13:58] bfiller: oh, i was using https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/ubuntu/ppa . i will move to that one [13:58] nerochiaro: at least in bug #1342031 which tries to get people to fix the naming, and the linked Debian message in there [13:58] bug 1342031 in unity-action-api (Ubuntu) "Rename QML modules to follow qml-module-foo naming" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1342031 [13:59] nerochiaro: that is same thing [13:59] sturmflut-work: ogra: looks as if it has asked for the "checking lock" twice without releasing: deadlock??? [14:00] sturmflut-work: line 87 and 97 [14:00] bfiller: ok, got confused. then let's leave it there since as you say it is only temporary anyway [14:01] mcphail: What's the checking lock? A file? [14:02]