[00:05] <xubuntu16w> the known applications list in my notification area is blank, does anyone know how to fix this?
[01:24] <elitedeamon> hello
[01:24] <elitedeamon> i need help with triple monitor and setting a primary display anyone help?
[01:28] <Nixus> anyone why youtube videos are lagging on my netbook?
[01:29] <Poisoned_Dragon> what's your netbook?
[01:30] <Nixus> thinkpad x121e
[01:30] <Nixus> "decent"
[01:31] <Nixus> idk, whenever I bump it up to 720p, it goes to 5 fps
[01:33] <Poisoned_Dragon> might be a video driver issue
[01:33] <Nixus> hmm
[01:38] <drc> Nixus: You have trouble watching video @ 720p anywhere else or just Youtube?
[01:38] <Nixus> anything video on the internet
[01:39] <drc> Any video anywhere on the 'net?
[01:39] <Nixus> yes
[01:40] <Nixus> flash player issue?
[01:40] <Nixus> I have tried flash games, 1 fps
[01:40] <Poisoned_Dragon> use chrome?
[01:41] <drc> You said "netbook"...they are notoriously underpowered and Flash is notoriously ravenous...
[01:42] <Nixus> http://www.pcworld.com/product/808324/lenovo-thinkpad-x120e-05962ru-notebook.html
[01:43] <drc> Probably not :)
[01:44] <Nixus> 6410 is OK, though am used to nvidia stuff. I have a 670 4gb on my other machine
[01:44] <Nixus> 6310*
[01:44] <drc> Try this, run another distro's LiveUSB and see if you have the same problem (SolydX has all codecs OOTB).
[01:45] <Nixus> ok, I'll try that out! thanks for the time!
[01:46] <drc> Nixus: The one thing you never said anything about was your Net Connection/ISP.  Your Up/Down specs fast enough to run video on the net?
[01:46] <Nixus> yes
[01:46] <drc> OK...best to ask the easy ones first :)
[01:47] <Nixus> speed test says 43 down 9 up
[01:48] <drc> That'll do donkey...that'll do.... :)
[01:48] <Nixus> provider says 100, lol
[01:48] <Nixus> maybe on ethernet
[01:48] <drc> 100 when pigs fly :)
[01:49] <Nixus> :)
[07:22] <xubuntu67w> xubuntu 14.04 can not rotate 90 degree with Intel GMA3600: My video card is Intel integrated GMA3600, when I choose to rotate 90 degrees in "Display Setting", the display show the message "the Signal is Lost". what can I do to support it
[07:27] <xubuntu67w> who can help me?
[07:57] <xubuntu67w> xubuntu 14.04 can not rotate 90 degree with Intel GMA3600: My video card is Intel integrated GMA3600, when I choose to rotate 90 degrees in "Display Setting", the display show the message "the Signal is Lost". what can I do to support it? SOS
[07:58] <cfhowlett> xubuntu67w, ask in
[07:58] <cfhowlett> #ubuntu
[08:00] <xubuntu67w> @cfhowlett ???
[08:01] <cfhowlett> xubuntu67w, ask in the main #ubuntu channel = more eyes
[13:14] <encxu> hi, i want to install xubuntu on usb with full encryption and also to be able to store data (persistence). is it possible and most important how?
[13:15] <ObrienDave> best way is to use the live DVD and install to the USB stick.
[13:15] <ObrienDave> I have several of those
[13:16] <encxu> ObrienDave: should i make partitions first?
[13:16] <ObrienDave> you can use unetbootin or pendrivelinux but the "persistance" is limited for some reason
[13:17] <ObrienDave> not on USB stick. let the installer use the whole USB stick
[13:17] <encxu> i have used unetbootin but it doesn't give me the choice of full encryption
[13:18] <ObrienDave> only from the DVD installer
[13:19] <ObrienDave> boot live DVD. from that desktop install to USB stick using entire drive and encryption
[13:20] <encxu> how about persistance, when i can do that?
[13:21] <encxu> i guess it will do that automatically, as it was a hard disk
[13:22] <ObrienDave> you don't need to if you install like i described. only programs like unetbootin, pendrivelinux and yumi give you a persistence option
[13:22] <encxu> ok, thanks
[13:23] <ObrienDave> the reason is unetbootin, etc. format the stick fat32, where live DVD uses ext4
[15:14] <GeekIrssi> I'm having pretty bad samba configuration issues. Running `sudo apt-get purge samba && sudo apt-get autoremove --purge` didn't actually remove the samba configuration files. What gives?
[15:14] <GeekIrssi> a simple `find / | grep samb` returns that key files such as /etc/samba/smb.conf
[15:15] <GeekIrssi> still exist
[15:26] <GeekIrssi> would it be alright to just delete /etc/samba/smb.conf manually?
[15:28] <elfy> maybe better to rename it? sudo mv /etc/samba/smb.conf /etc/samba/smb.conf.bak or something
[15:29] <GeekIrssi> aha
[15:29] <GeekIrssi> I did `mv /etc/samba /etc/samba.bak` then re-installed samba
[15:29] <GeekIrssi> and now it appears to be working
[15:36] <GeekIrssi> Well, thanks elfy. I've gotta go now
[15:36] <elfy> GeekIrssi: gald it helped :)
[16:20] <kikero> Hey!
[16:23] <kikero> My nm-applet has disappeared from both of my xubuntu laptops some time ago, but I was okay with that as long as it knew to connect to the wifi network I had.
[16:24] <kikero> When I changed places, though, it stopped working.
[16:26] <kikero> What could I do about it?
[16:43] <TimeVirus> where would I find screensaver options in Xubuntu 14.04?
[17:01] <drc> TimeVirus: It's been a while (and I don't have 14.04 installed anymore to check), but seeing as how no one else is answering, I'd start here.  http://xubuntu.org/news/screen-locking-in-xubuntu-14-04/
[17:03] <TimeVirus> ok thanks drc
[17:04] <TimeVirus> third from bottom response seems to favor have a television nearby - lol and not what I was thinking about!
[17:07] <TimeVirus> Used to have a very good screensaver that made my monitor look very much like a tropical, saltwater fish tank - did like that one for quite some time
[17:07] <drc> Wish I could help more, but 1) It's been awhile; 2) I never used screensavers anyway, just turn them off and 3) IIRC this was in the middle of the Great Screensaver Controversy :)
[17:07] <TimeVirus> no worries
[17:07] <TimeVirus> not a big deal
[17:08] <TimeVirus> I also like the saving of electroons
[17:08] <TimeVirus> electrons*
[17:09] <drc> Yeah, I hear there's an electron shortage looming on the horizon.
[17:09] <TimeVirus> especially when relying on a limited source of said electrons
[17:09] <TimeVirus> ie: Li-ion electron storage device
[17:10] <drc> Lot's of quarks but an electron shortage :)
[17:10] <TimeVirus> indeed
[17:14] <nate254> I'm getting a couple "System program problem detected" messages at boot. Where can I find out which programs are crashing?
[17:16] <TimeVirus> logs?
[17:17] <elfy> nate254: the crash logs will be in /var/crash if you've not allowed them to be reported
[17:17] <elfy> better to let it try to do so, it *should* stop when it's a dupe
[17:32] <nate254> elfy: thanks. what do you mean by a dupe
[17:34] <elfy> an already reported bug
[17:34] <elfy> it should ask you if you want to 'me too' it
[17:34] <elfy> hard to tell for me - not run a released version for about 5 years
[18:00] <nate254> I wasn't aware that you could get prereleases :P
[18:05] <elfy> nate254: I'll be running what you'll call 15.10 the day after 15.04 releases, you can do that, you can also contribute to what others get in October ;) http://xubuntu.org/contribute/
[18:08] <nate254> Yup. Saw that page. Thats why I'm in #xubuntu-devel :P
[18:08] <elfy> good ;)
[18:09] <nate254> Where'd you find the "15.10" thing though? How does that work? Is it a rolling release structure?
[18:09] <nate254> Coming from arch and gentoo, I'm not sure if I like the idea of having to upgrade every six months. So that would be awesome lol
[19:35] <olamachon> Hey all, Im having an issue with dpkg and am wondering if it is something common. When install Vagrant via deb  on 14.10 (kernel 3.17.8), I keep getting 'unable to open x' when unpacking, on different files sometimes. Aside from the kernel upgrade and some dev stuff  it's mostly a vanilla install.
[19:35] <knome> a kernel upgrade and some dev stuff (if that means different package versions in use) isn't a small thing really..
[19:36] <olamachon> Haha I guess it's not that small, but I only started yesterday
[19:40] <olamachon> (Started the install)
[19:41] <olamachon> I was planning on downgrading and reinstalling stuff but wanted to see if anyone had any guesses first. I had a bit of ssd troubles a while back, so I don't know
[19:44] <olamachon> Nevermind, I figured out it was the AV
[20:29] <suncokret> which xubuntu is better to use, 14.04 or 14.10?
[20:29] <xangua> 14.04 is LTS, 14.10 is latest
[20:29] <suncokret> i know, which you use?
[20:30] <knome> it depends completely on your usecase
[20:31] <suncokret> i use lubuntu 14.04, maybe i will use xubuntu in future, but i don't know advantages of xubuntu :)
[20:32] <suncokret> if i will not lxqt then i will maybe use xfce
[20:32] <suncokret> *if i will not like lxqt
[20:32] <drc> suncokret: http://xubuntu.org/press/ are some of the reviews about Xubuntu.  Asking here will only get you biased answers :)
[20:36] <suncokret> is 14.04 have 5 years support?
[20:36] <drc> IIRC, 3 years
[20:36] <drc> to keep it in line with xfce's support.
[20:38] <drc> LTS is 3 years and all other releases are 9 months.
[20:38] <suncokret> so new LTS it is plan for 16.04 and also 3 years?
[20:39] <drc> Unless things change, yes.
[20:44] <suncokret> i seen that ubuntu lts have 5 years of support, i thought that only lubuntu have 3 years and that xubuntu and kubuntu have 5 years
[20:44] <drc> nope
[20:44] <drc> xubuntu is 3
[20:44] <xangua> the most efforts are put on the main flavor/unity desktop
[20:45] <xangua> and server related packages also have 5 years on LTS
[20:46] <suncokret> i didn't know where to see that, now i find on wikipedia for xubuntu
[20:47] <suncokret> i also see for kubuntu, it have 5 years
[20:47] <Unit193> Basically, things in Main are 5 years, and whichever flavors opt-in for 5.  Kubuntu (I believe), and the Unity flavors went for 5, Xubuntu and Lubuntu didn't.
[20:47] <drc> More folks == more workers :)
[20:49] <suncokret> yes, and mint is also 5
[20:51] <drc> TBH, I know very few folks that use xfce that need more than 3 years...server distro's yeah, desktop nope.
[20:52] <drc> Sooner or later they start complaining about out of date apps :)
[20:54] <suncokret> i don't know, i use lubuntu 14.04 and i plan to use it until it have support :)
[20:54] <suncokret> or maybe i will try new version 16.04, and then i will maybe try xubuntu too
[21:19] <ObrienDave> you can try xubuntu now. sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[21:25] <suncokret> i was try xfce on lubuntu. It is very similar as lxde.
[22:15] <suncokret> thanks for help, good night
[22:37] <xubuntu39w> I have three computers (two desktops and a really old laptop) running Xubuntu. I wanted to install the same version of Libroffice on all three. The two desktops are 14.10 but the laptop is MUCH older. If I do sudo apt-get install libreoffice in the terminal of the laptop will I still get the latest version of LibreOffice (the same as I'll get from the terminal in the desktops)?
[22:38] <knome> if you are running the same version (14.10) and repositories, then yes
[22:39] <xubuntu39w> That's what I'm saying, the laptop is MUCH older. (It was asking if I wanted to install 14.04)
[22:40] <knome> xubuntu39w, if you are running 12.04 on it, you should upgrade; the support for xubuntu 12.04 ends this month
[22:41] <xubuntu39w> I would upgrade but it's so slow. It might take ten hours. What happens if I don't upgrade?
[22:41] <knome> then you will have no official support
[22:41] <knome> and if bugs arise, they will not be fixed
[22:42] <pleia2> and you can't get new libreoffice on it anyway
[22:42] <knome> true
[22:42] <xubuntu39w> So what will I get?
[22:42] <knome> the latest libreoffice packaged for 12.04
[22:43] <pleia2> the version that came out in 2012
[22:43] <xubuntu39w> And if I upgrade to Trusty Tahr?
[22:43] <pleia2> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libreoffice
[22:43] <pleia2> shows you the versions of packages per release ^^
[22:44] <pleia2> 4.2.7 with 14.04, 4.3.3 with 14.10
[22:44] <knome> (and 3.5.7 for 12.04)
[22:45] <xubuntu39w> I've got 4.2.3.3 on there now (I had to install it manually) so no point in trying to get anything more.
[22:45] <xubuntu39w> I really should get a new laptop. :)
[22:46] <xubuntu39w> knome, pleia, thanks very much for your help!