[18:51] <harlowja> smoser shall we make a tag/branch for 0.7.x on https://github.com/stackforge/cloud-init ?
[18:51] <harlowja> now that i see it has the full history there :-P
[18:51] <harlowja> didn't know it had that, ha
[18:52] <harlowja> i guess the last bzr move-over is https://github.com/stackforge/cloud-init/commit/d90bfd6268e8 ?
[18:53] <harlowja> and then i guess stop accepting bzr changes, ha
[18:54] <smoser> harlowja, hm..
[18:54] <harlowja> and/or create a 0.7.x branch from that commit; update it
[18:54] <harlowja> and have master be 2.x
[18:54] <smoser> i think keep 0.7.x on bzr
[18:55] <harlowja> seems like its on stackforge though :-P
[18:55] <smoser> what do you mean ?
[18:55] <harlowja> https://github.com/stackforge/cloud-init 2678 commits, ha
[18:55] <harlowja> so there is some history there :-P
[18:55] <harlowja> afaik nobody has done that many commits yet, lol
[18:55] <harlowja> so seems useful to have some kind of branch at least
[18:56] <harlowja> also then removes the need for https://github.com/number5/cloud-init 
[18:56] <harlowja> ^ which is doing similar mirroring...
[18:56] <harlowja> ^ whoever that is...
[18:56] <smoser> hm..
[18:57] <smoser> well, i basically consider 0.7.x in maintenance
[18:57] <smoser> and figure just as well to do that in bzr on launcpad.
[18:57] <smoser> but id ont know.
[18:57] <smoser> yeah, i think keep it there for now.
[18:57] <harlowja> ok, i'd make it easier for yahoo, but sureeee, since we wanted to mirror bzr -> internal git
[18:57] <harlowja> makes it real easy if stackforge already does it :-P
[18:58] <smoser> :)
[18:58] <harlowja> sooo how about that :-P
[18:58] <smoser> well, i'm not really opposed to it i guess.
[18:59] <harlowja> i can push up a branch for the current 0.7.x on git (which seems to be from revision 1046 from bzr)
[18:59] <smoser> do we know of anythign that can mirror for us ? so that github.com/cloud-init/cloud-init is a mirror of stckforge/cloud-init ?
[18:59] <harlowja> and get someone to update that branch
[18:59] <harlowja> unsre
[18:59] <harlowja> poke #openstack-infra folks?
[18:59] <harlowja> i would think they would know something (some tool or other)
[19:00] <harlowja> so i'll push up 0.7.x branch on stackforge
[19:00] <harlowja> ok dokie?
[19:01] <smoser> so you'll push 0.7.x branch to stackforge... how do you do that ?
[19:01] <harlowja> magic
[19:01] <harlowja> lol
[19:01] <smoser> that wont force review ?
[19:01] <harlowja> clone the stackforge repo
[19:01] <harlowja> nope, no reviews for this
[19:02] <harlowja> $ git checkout d90bfd6268e8
[19:02] <harlowja> $ git checkout -b 0.7.x
[19:02] <harlowja> $ git push gerrit 0.7.x:0.7.x
[19:02] <harlowja> ^ is the sequence
[19:03] <harlowja> arg, didn't work
[19:03] <harlowja> ha
[19:04] <smoser> hnm.
[19:04] <smoser> well punt for now
[19:04] <smoser> but if we wanted, i think we can make bzr (on launchpad) be a mirror of github easily enough
[19:04] <smoser> launchpad supports that
[19:04] <smoser> harlowja, so please confirm... python in rhel 6 is 2.6 ?
[19:05] <smoser> if thats the case, i think it kind of forces 2.6 for cloud-init 2
[19:06] <harlowja> yup
[19:06] <harlowja> that is the case
[19:06] <harlowja> stupid rhel6
[19:06] <harlowja> lol
[19:07] <smoser> ok. so 2.6 requirement for cloud-init 2. :-(
[19:10] <harlowja> boo
[19:10] <harlowja> lol
[19:10] <harlowja> ya
[19:10] <harlowja> not that hard, just pita, lol
[19:19] <harlowja> guess i need https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172179/ to go in before branches can be made...
[19:19] <harlowja> arg
[19:23] <harlowja> guess we'll need that anyway so might as well get the ACLs over with...
[19:34] <smoser> claudiupopa, if i wanted to write what versions of windows we'll support
[19:34] <smoser> what would i write ?
[19:35] <smoser> harlowja, can you make the above not refs/heads/stble/*
[19:35] <smoser> but refs/heads/0.7.X ?
[19:35] <smoser> or somethign to that affect.
[19:35] <smoser> ie, at the point when there is sstable 2.0.0, we dont want you going out of control
[19:35] <harlowja> i think so
[19:36] <harlowja> updated; let's see if people are ok with that
[19:37] <harlowja> ha
[19:37] <harlowja> u go out of control first, not me, ha
[19:37] <smoser> whats the yum equivalent of 'apt-get update'
[19:37] <smoser> ie, not upgrade
[19:37] <harlowja> hmmm, forgot, thought it did the scanning automatically or something
[19:38] <harlowja> yum clean && yum list (?)
[19:38] <harlowja> i think that has similar effect
[19:39] <smoser> makecache
[19:39] <smoser> i think
[19:39] <harlowja> could be
[19:39] <smoser> how do i get python3?
[19:42] <harlowja> in rhel6?
[19:42] <harlowja> u don't, ha
[19:42] <harlowja> :-P
[19:42] <harlowja> u compile it, lol
[19:43] <harlowja> then make altinstall or whatever
[19:43] <claudiupopa> smoser: we currently support windows 2003+ upwards, but it will be EOL after 17 june (if I remember correctly). So starting from vista should be fair to document.
[19:43] <harlowja> XP ftw!
[19:43] <harlowja> lol
[19:44] <claudiupopa> ;-) a decent os nevertheless.
[19:44] <harlowja> def, my mom still runs it afaik
[19:44] <harlowja> ha
[19:44] <harlowja> guess i should fix that someday, lol
[19:48] <smoser> claudiupopa, for the windows novice (i've just heard about this cool thing from seatle) what is that list ?
[19:49] <smoser> ie, i dont knwo windows server names othe rthan the ones you have just told me about above :)
[19:49] <claudiupopa> one moment. ;-)
[19:50] <claudiupopa> https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ms724832%28v=vs.85%29.aspx
[19:50] <claudiupopa> Everything starting with Vista.
[19:50] <claudiupopa> from Vista*
[19:57] <harlowja> forgot all the 9x versions.... jeez
[19:57] <harlowja> lol
[19:57] <harlowja> or millenuim (the best version ever)
[19:59] <smoser> claudiupopa, thanks.
[20:00]  * smoser saw windows 8.X for the first time this weekend on sisters new laptop
[20:00] <harlowja> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_ME  was the best version ever ;-P
[20:00] <harlowja> lol
[20:01] <smoser> now i've used it for 3 minutes. uninstalled the antivirus software (norton or something) that was on there, and set windows defender instead.
[20:01] <harlowja> last of the weird crappy windows versions, ha
[20:01] <harlowja> ya, remove the crapware if the first thing i usually do, lol
[20:01] <harlowja> *is the first
[20:03] <smoser> oh, you'd have liked this, harlowja
[20:03] <smoser> my sister was using yahoo to search for videos (youtube).
[20:03] <harlowja> man, thats weird, ha
[20:03] <smoser> i made a comment about not knowing i'd stepped into a time warp and being thrown back to 2002
[20:04] <harlowja> :)
[20:04] <harlowja> whattttt
[20:04] <harlowja> haha
[20:04] <smoser> i guess yahoo paid HP some money (or someone some money) to make it the default search engine in IE there.
[20:04]  * harlowja can no longer associate with smoser 
[20:04] <harlowja> nice, ha
[20:06] <harlowja> well thx for supporting me smoser 
[20:07] <harlowja> every click u do i get 1 piece of rice
[20:07] <harlowja> so thx!
[20:07] <smoser> hoohoo. 
[20:07]  * harlowja has to feed all my kids...
[20:07] <harlowja> who would otherwise starve...
[20:13] <smoser> wow: http://www.ec2instances.info/
[20:13]  * smoser remembers the days of m1.small, m1.large and m1.xlarge
[20:20] <harlowja> ha
[20:20] <harlowja> ya
[20:20] <harlowja> crazy amount of choices there
[20:20] <harlowja> to many...
[20:21] <harlowja> way to many...
[20:21] <harlowja> ^ is not what the cloud is supposed to be, lol
[20:21] <harlowja> (for my version of cloud, ha)
[21:38] <bodik> hi
[21:39] <bodik> in our new version deployed by cloudguys at our grid site, they introduced a power_state: mode: reboot, which should reboot the machine at the end of the cloudinit work
[21:39] <bodik> but at that time runcmd and bootcmds are already executed, nebula is reporting vm as running
[21:40] <bodik> so i wonder how should i detect that vm is really ready after final reboot ? so i can start to really use the machine ?
[21:40] <bodik> anyone has some trick beside sleep X to do it ?
[21:51] <harlowja> use /var/lib/cloud/data/status.json
[21:51] <harlowja> and examine that
[21:51] <harlowja> ex http://paste.ubuntu.com/10786345/ 
[21:53] <bodik> great thanx
[21:53] <bodik> meanwhile i'm trying to use write_files to modify rc.local which is executed after the final reboot ;)
[21:54] <bodik> but it that would not work i will try the status file
[21:54] <bodik> thnakx
[22:21] <bodik> write_files does not work ;( rc.local is still executed after cloudinit but before reboot so the file is there too soon