': undefined method `length' for nil:NilClass (NoMethodError) [14:19] hmm, ruby, I'm not surprised [14:19] infact, dolphin should depend on ruby :( [14:20] oh it does recommend it [14:20] Riddell: sudo apt-get install ruby says i have already installed [14:26] Riddell: breeze decoration in ubiquity is broken for some reason [14:27] I saw a always-use-shadow change recently which might be causing it [14:27] it's all black and terrible [14:27] Peace-: works just fine you are using it wrong [14:28] breeze decoration is supposed to be black and horrible no? it's just like unity [14:29] nono [14:29] broken horrible [14:29] let me see [14:30] mm i have upgraded [14:30] Riddell: http://i.imgur.com/5J13xhW.jpg [14:30] now it works [14:30] :) [14:30] Riddell: sorry for bothering you [14:31] i did an upgrade and now it seem it's working anyway [14:31] Riddell: it doesn't affect the actual session though, hence why I suspect the recent always-shadow change is causing it [14:31] which is gonna fall us on the head come 15.10 [14:31] Peace-: it seems like an upstream bug anyway, if you get it again do report it [14:31] there is no bug [14:31] I checked the code [14:32] that error only happens when you use it incorrectly [14:32] sitter: it should exit properly btw sitter [14:33] i got before issues because it did not install the service menu [14:33] i don't know why [14:35] that thing is not meant to be used directly [14:35] it's used from inside dolphin [14:36] it does feature rather shitty code though I will say [14:37] shadeslayer: random hack project if you are interested ... sevicemenuinstallation in dolphin could do with some less shitty code ;) [14:37] lol [14:37] also there is a legit bug [14:37] oh no [14:37] dolphin is still kde4 [14:37] nevermind [14:37] EOUTOFTIME [14:38] shadeslayer: just sayin :P [14:38] get me a time machine mate [14:38] or actually [14:38] i can build one [14:38] cloning machine plz [14:38] lol [14:41] Riddell: ah meh, its getting late and I have a bit of a headache I think we'll just go with today's iso for tomorrow if everything turns red overnight. going to do the 5.3 move and branch mergery tomorrow [14:43] * sitter out [15:17] how can i restart kwin ? [15:19] soee: in plasma 5^ [15:19] ? [15:27] soee: kwin --replace [15:28] (or I guess in plasma5, kwin_x11 --replace) [15:28] rdieter: thanks, had to reboot anyway as i crashed plasmashelll totally ;) [15:54] ovidiu-florin: Hi [16:05] Peace-: ping [16:12] * Riddell out [16:36] soee: kquitapp5 kwin_x11 ; kwin_x11 --replace [16:36] Peace-: no no :D [16:36] soee: what? [16:36] ;D [16:37] Peace-: do you know how can i set plasmoid icon that will be shown on panel ? [16:37] mmm in qml ? [16:37] soee: ^ [16:37] i guess no but :D [16:37] Peace-: in metadata.desktop [16:38] soee: ah well i do in this way , right click on metadata.desktop ==> choose icon :P [16:38] btw [16:38] soee: Icon=arrow-up [16:38] for example [16:39] Peace-: ok and i have custome one with extension [16:39] it hows up in widgets list [16:39] bt not when i add to panel [16:39] byt maybe i do something wrong here [16:42] * Darkwing peers in [16:52] soee: mmm uh? [17:19] Riddell: i see that some fix has been released to make nvidia-prime work wih sddm, so in what package exactly the chnages were made ? [19:21] soee: in sddm and nvidia-prime packages [19:21] soee: please do test them [19:21] Riddell: there are no updates available yet [19:23] soee: nvidia-prime 0.8.1 and sddm 0.11.0-0ubuntu9 [19:23] but they are old i think [19:23] in archive liek week or more [19:24] sddm 0.11.0-0ubuntu9 is 21 hours old [19:24] nvidia-prime is a week old [19:24] uhm, ok let me check if it will work [19:29] Riddell: i was able to boot without any serious problems [19:29] now i try to install propriety drivers [19:46] Riddell: the good news - we can install nvdia-prime and boot system fine [19:47] Riddell: the bad news, we still cn't use propriety drivers, booting ends with black screen before sddm [19:47] with some 3 messages, where first one is: ACPI PCC probe failed [19:50] when starting TeamViewer it opens a new window where it shows the system tray icon [19:50] it' start's as a wine application AFAIK [20:15] I am writing a piece about those 5 elements for the website but it is going deeper and deeper by the hour.... [20:15] If you want I can shed a little insight but I believe the website is already formatted according to some deeper truth :P. [20:15] :p. [20:16] It is amazing and it is alchemical. [20:16] I can hardly grasp it myself :P. [20:16] seriously :). [20:16] It goes deeper by the hour that I am writing and I have been writing all day mostly [20:17] apart from dealing with crashes in Calligra [20:17] ANYONE lol ? :) [20:38] xennex81: no idea what you are talking about! === rdieter is now known as rdieter_work [20:39] ovidiu asked on the mailing list to come up with (it was a poll) the five parts to the header bar we'd want on the new site [20:39] or he'd want, you'd want [20:39] oh right [20:39] i submitted a reply there but it started me thinking [20:39] why i chose those 5 and what it meant [20:40] and i realized in the end that there is a deep structure to any message or product you want to sell [20:40] and that there are 5 base categories of doing that stuff [20:40] and that knowing those five instantly reveals which the 5 navigational elements (or parts to the website) should be more or less [20:41] it just started out as an email but now it is an ODT document :p [20:41] only "insanity lingers at the brink of such" and I need a break I think [20:45] but those elements would be, to make it short: Overview, Features, Community, Involvement, and Foundation [20:46] and the four calls to action on the front page should not be what it is now, but rather: Downloads, Feature Tour, Feedback, Installation/Setup. [20:47] There is also an element missing on the front page, and it is a news section, or a news feed. [20:47] Some elements are not rightly ordered, the introductory text has to be above the CtA [20:47] and the news feed should really be below that, not all that important perhaps but still [20:48] There should really not be a dedicated News section, or it should be a sixth element, but not one of the five [20:48] Those are my results in short [20:48] xennex81: you lost me..... [20:48] where? [20:49] about an hour ago [20:49] haah it is so hard to write this also in a decriptive way [20:49] ... [20:49] :( [20:49] maybe I'm just too tired [20:49] yeah me too [20:49] ovidiu-florin: do you plan any changes on forntpage and teh banner ? [20:49] and it is a bit complex for now..... [20:49] but the last things I said were understandable right [20:50] the document I write seeks to reveal it more understandibly, but it is hard for me [20:50] and I've been working on this task for far to long [20:50] hah, me too today [20:50] but can i try to explain in short? [20:50] i guess i need the full document for that, but still, i have till the 15th i guess [20:51] i am just proposing a few changes and the document is only to make it ... erm... to explain why [20:51] soee: if someone has any ideas on how to improve it, most likely [20:51] xennex81: may I ask you what's your real name? [20:51] so I know If I seet it somewhere [20:51] Bart Schouten [20:52] I was and am list@xenhideout on the mailing list [20:52] if I have to mention that.... [20:52] xennex81: so you''re the one with the novel feedback [20:52] erm [20:53] you mean the lengthy feedback? :P :( [20:53] yes [20:53] it could be me :p ..... [20:53] it's very hard to go through it [20:53] i'm trying to condense you know [20:53] that's because I don't spend enough time on it [20:53] I know [20:53] you should be more specific and to the point [20:53] usually if I rewrite it a few times it shrinks to 20% [20:54] e.g.: do this ... because .... done [20:54] i'm doing everything I can, but it takes time for me at current [20:54] LOL [20:54] so this time instead of rushing a message out I'm just doing what I can to condense it first :P [20:55] let's say I am thinkign aloud [20:55] and that is why it is long [20:55] because I have no one else to talk to and thinkign to myself is hard here also [20:55] I'm kinda locked up somehwere [20:55] but need to call a girl, brb [20:56] when ever I'm undecided on something, I talk with someone, usually my wife, a she understands me best [20:56] next, if it's Kubuntu related I give Riddell a ring [20:56] yeah and I'm so envious of having someone normal to talk to [20:56] and then write a message to the community [20:56] I'm surrounded by... people I do not want to relate to [20:57] that's why we're here [20:57] but, xennex81, IMO, the brainstorming place is here (IRC) and archive and decision making is on the mail list [20:58] if you send your brainstorming on the mail list, poeple will tend to ignore you [20:58] if you need, we can organize a mumble room [20:58] and talk, instead of typing [21:00] xennex81: P.S. Mention someone if you want to draw their attention on IRC [21:00] use tab to autocomplete their nick [21:00] this will help you find them easy [21:03] oh, that is good information [21:03] I know they ignore me, I would ignore myself, and I usually do [21:03] which is why I am in so much trouble. [21:03] I'm off to bed [21:03] * ovidiu-florin Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...... [21:03] @ ovidiu-florin ;-) [21:04] oh, that was a name-change :P [21:04] he beat me to it