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gamerchick02hello party people00:15
rick_h_party00:20
gamerchick02how's CHC? i cleaned and called my mom and now i'm watching Nature.00:29
gamerchick02also i'm tired right now too so going out is like not going to work for me (work's been taking whatever energy i have and sucking it out of me :( )00:30
cmaloneyCHC is going we..01:25
cmaloneywell, even01:50
cmaloneymorning11:48
rick_h_morn11:51
SneakyPhilgood morning12:55
SneakyPhilI have a question not specifically about linux, but dealing with people12:56
SneakyPhilThroughout my env I have been using saltstack for config management etc for months now12:57
SneakyPhilthe other week the IT director decided that we need to jump onto the chef wagon because another company we work with uses it12:57
SneakyPhilHas anyone ever needed to rip out something that has been working well to replace it with esssentially the same thing?12:58
cmaloneyHave you played with Chef at all?12:58
SneakyPhilI have been, yes. To me it's not as good feeling as writing salt states12:58
cmaloneyBut to answer your question: Yep, been there multiple times12:59
cmaloneyWhat's your relationship with the IT director?12:59
SneakyPhil"sneakyphil is the guy who does the linux things and plays jesus for me"13:00
SneakyPhilmy developers have taken saltstack upon themselves for their own projects even13:01
cmaloneyThen you need to talk13:02
cmaloneyshow him what the differences are and why Chef might not fit13:02
cmaloneyHave an adult conversation about it. :)13:02
SneakyPhilheh13:02
SneakyPhilthank you13:02
SneakyPhilto powerpoint13:03
* SneakyPhil away13:03
cmaloneyWell, you don't necessarily need powerpoint13:03
cmaloneyjust a simple "here's what we're currently doin,g and here's why Chef might not be a good fit"13:03
rick_h_jcastro: hah love http://www.jorgecastro.org/2015/04/09/keeping-your-options-open14:26
jcastro:D14:26
cmaloneyjcastro: Nice.14:51
cmaloneyI'm continually amazed that HP is a footnote in cloud14:52
cmaloneyI hear more about Microsoft cloud services than HP14:52
jrwrencmaloney: might appreciate this14:52
jrwrenArmageddon Dildos into Rachmaninov14:52
cmaloneyon orders of magnatude14:52
jrwrenTHAT IS A TRANSITION14:52
jrwrencmaloney: that is because HPs cloud really sucks.14:53
cmaloneyjrwren: Sounds like a great covers album14:53
cmaloney;)14:53
cmaloneyjrwren: What blessed you with that transition?14:53
jrwrencmaloney: hahaha, no covers, just a jolting transition.14:53
jrwrencmaloney: itunes random14:53
jrwrencmaloney: from "My Top Rated"14:54
cmaloneyjrwren: Seriously though, how hard could it be to just be a provider of cloud boxes14:54
cmaloneyjrwren: gah, that seems inevitable then (re: transitions)14:54
cmaloneyRachmaninov is one of my favorite composers / performers.14:54
jrwrencmaloney: its HP. "Seriously though, how hard could it be" and then messing up is what they've done for the past 20yrs in IT.14:54
jrwrencmaloney: this rachmaninov I got by your recommendation. its DSO performing14:55
cmaloneyjrwren: Ah, nice.14:55
jrwrenSymphony No 214:55
cmaloneyThat's a great album14:55
cmaloneyno. 3 lacks a bit but no. 2 is amazing.14:55

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