[00:15] <gamerchick02> hello party people
[00:20] <rick_h_> party
[00:29] <gamerchick02> how's CHC? i cleaned and called my mom and now i'm watching Nature.
[00:30] <gamerchick02> also i'm tired right now too so going out is like not going to work for me (work's been taking whatever energy i have and sucking it out of me :( )
[01:25] <cmaloney> CHC is going we..
[01:50] <cmaloney> well, even
[11:48] <cmaloney> morning
[11:51] <rick_h_> morn
[12:55] <SneakyPhil> good morning
[12:56] <SneakyPhil> I have a question not specifically about linux, but dealing with people
[12:57] <SneakyPhil> Throughout my env I have been using saltstack for config management etc for months now
[12:57] <SneakyPhil> the other week the IT director decided that we need to jump onto the chef wagon because another company we work with uses it
[12:58] <SneakyPhil> Has anyone ever needed to rip out something that has been working well to replace it with esssentially the same thing?
[12:58] <cmaloney> Have you played with Chef at all?
[12:58] <SneakyPhil> I have been, yes. To me it's not as good feeling as writing salt states
[12:59] <cmaloney> But to answer your question: Yep, been there multiple times
[12:59] <cmaloney> What's your relationship with the IT director?
[13:00] <SneakyPhil> "sneakyphil is the guy who does the linux things and plays jesus for me"
[13:01] <SneakyPhil> my developers have taken saltstack upon themselves for their own projects even
[13:02] <cmaloney> Then you need to talk
[13:02] <cmaloney> show him what the differences are and why Chef might not fit
[13:02] <cmaloney> Have an adult conversation about it. :)
[13:02] <SneakyPhil> heh
[13:02] <SneakyPhil> thank you
[13:03] <SneakyPhil> to powerpoint
[13:03]  * SneakyPhil away
[13:03] <cmaloney> Well, you don't necessarily need powerpoint
[13:03] <cmaloney> just a simple "here's what we're currently doin,g and here's why Chef might not be a good fit"
[14:26] <rick_h_> jcastro: hah love http://www.jorgecastro.org/2015/04/09/keeping-your-options-open
[14:26] <jcastro> :D
[14:51] <cmaloney> jcastro: Nice.
[14:52] <cmaloney> I'm continually amazed that HP is a footnote in cloud
[14:52] <cmaloney> I hear more about Microsoft cloud services than HP
[14:52] <jrwren> cmaloney: might appreciate this
[14:52] <jrwren> Armageddon Dildos into Rachmaninov
[14:52] <cmaloney> on orders of magnatude
[14:52] <jrwren> THAT IS A TRANSITION
[14:53] <jrwren> cmaloney: that is because HPs cloud really sucks.
[14:53] <cmaloney> jrwren: Sounds like a great covers album
[14:53] <cmaloney> ;)
[14:53] <cmaloney> jrwren: What blessed you with that transition?
[14:53] <jrwren> cmaloney: hahaha, no covers, just a jolting transition.
[14:53] <jrwren> cmaloney: itunes random
[14:54] <jrwren> cmaloney: from "My Top Rated"
[14:54] <cmaloney> jrwren: Seriously though, how hard could it be to just be a provider of cloud boxes
[14:54] <cmaloney> jrwren: gah, that seems inevitable then (re: transitions)
[14:54] <cmaloney> Rachmaninov is one of my favorite composers / performers.
[14:54] <jrwren> cmaloney: its HP. "Seriously though, how hard could it be" and then messing up is what they've done for the past 20yrs in IT.
[14:55] <jrwren> cmaloney: this rachmaninov I got by your recommendation. its DSO performing
[14:55] <cmaloney> jrwren: Ah, nice.
[14:55] <jrwren> Symphony No 2
[14:55] <cmaloney> That's a great album
[14:55] <cmaloney> no. 3 lacks a bit but no. 2 is amazing.