[04:20] morning all and sundry [04:30] More almal [04:35] hi barrydk [04:46] hi Tonberry [04:46] hi [06:12] mornings [06:12] hi ThatGraemeGuy [06:31] hi SDCDev [06:45] hi mazal [06:45] Morning everyone [06:46] jy het slap geword seun, ons wag nog vir jou gaming rubriek [06:46] Ek wag nog vir my verlof [06:46] lol [06:46] o ja [06:46] hoe gaan dit? [06:46] Maar die eerste week is al klaar so propvol ai [06:47] ai! [06:47] morning Kilos [06:48] ek's uiteindelik in Jeffriesbaai [06:48] sjoe lekker man [06:48] :) nou moet ek net 'n huis kry :p [06:48] ai! [06:48] gaan hierdie naweek begin soek vir 'n huis :) [06:48] is hulle nie almal vol nie [06:48] nee :P [06:48] mooi [06:48] daar is meer huise as mense hier [06:48] sjoe [06:49] behalwe in December... [06:49] Desember [06:49] ? [06:49] :o [06:49] lol I can't remember how to spell December [06:49] daai tyd ja [06:49] lol speak english man [06:49] i understand both you know [06:50] I know :P but I can't remember how to spell December in Afrikaans [06:50] :/ [06:50] with the s is right [06:50] guess I haven't really written or read afrikaans in the past 10 years [06:50] last/past 10 years [06:50] sjoe [06:51] sjoe dis lank... maar ek kan nog goed afrikaans praad [06:51] you need to settle down now we got lots of work [06:51] praat [06:51] lol O_o o_O [06:51] ek's seeker dis praad? is dit praat? [06:51] O_O [06:51] praat [06:52] whaat kind of work? [06:52] wait i show you [06:52] kk :> [06:53] go see https://trello.com/b/GKXXiBxU/ubuntu-south-africa-loco [06:53] wbb [06:54] yoooh [06:54] lots [06:54] to do [06:54] O_o [06:55] Morning all [06:57] hi pieter2627 [06:57] yip we becoming an active LoCo again [06:58] and if you are clever enough you can join pieter2627 and octoquad at tha bug squad [06:59] hi Xethron [07:03] oh SDCDev work for you now [07:03] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Members [07:04] go add yourself [07:04] pretty please [07:05] ThatGraemeGuy you not added there yet either methinks [07:05] '..if you are clever enough...' - someone should have told me that i should be smart before joining :P [07:05] hahaha [07:06] to me you guys are all brilliant [07:08] thanks Kilos, you're quite good too at getting us to do everything [07:10] well, i was given a sjambok and had to find a use for it [07:10] haha [07:11] just need to keep whacking the pro so he greets in the morning [07:11] some peeps is dikvellig jy weet [07:12] might want to choose a different word there o_O [07:12] um [07:13] sjoe [07:13] ThatGraemeGuy give me a word please [07:13] prodding [07:13] ok ty [07:14] ya thats a good one [07:14] * Kilos prods inetpro [07:15] he is always busy [07:15] even when sleeping [07:16] hi TinuvaMac [07:20] moring kil [07:20] Kilos* [07:20] dont you use tab complete [07:21] kil tab [07:21] did i press enter before i pressed tab [07:21] lol [07:21] :P [07:23] its become such habit here i often type morn and hit tab then gotta think first why its not complete [07:41] * Padroni waves [07:41] hi Padroni [07:41] hi [07:41] how are you? [07:41] good ty and you? [07:42] good ty [07:42] hows the brewery going? [07:42] haven't made a batch in a while [07:43] need to get one going again [07:43] gotta buy some ingredients first [07:43] been so focussed on Python the last couple of days [07:43] thats good news [07:43] you like? [07:43] yeah I like it [07:44] what sort of equipment costs are you looking at to get started? [07:44] * inetpro steps in for a sec [07:44] good mornings everyone [07:44] oh and hi Kilos [07:44] Kilos: sorry, I fell asleep last night, I guess I will have to do some catching up again, but now now [07:44] * inetpro wbbl [07:44] to be honest [07:44] the best way to get started is to buy a brewery kit [07:45] np inetpro [07:45] Mangrove Jack's or Coppertone [07:45] goes for about R1000 - R1400 depending on where you buy [07:45] wow [07:45] you will be making 'canned' beer in the beginning but you need to go through that to learn the process [07:45] ok, and roughly how much does a batch cost you in raw material [07:45] and also, the beer is actually good [07:45] I buy my stuff at a health shop at our mall [07:46] so probably more than usual [07:46] but a can of premix and the sugars go for about R300 in total [07:46] is beer healthy [07:46] but [07:46] yeah i don't expect it to be cheaper than buying beer [07:46] doing things yourself rarely is [07:46] you make 23L which gives you on average 65 330ml bottles [07:46] but its so lekker :) [07:46] lol [07:47] that's actually pretty economical [07:47] which does actually work out cheaper than buying the equivalent in SAB beer [07:47] yeah [07:47] I know, right? [07:47] if you buy the kit, you get the first batch of beer mix with it [07:47] and your only other input is time, nothing electrical [07:47] nothing [07:47] nice [07:47] water, premix [07:48] I will tell you this though, Graeme [07:48] you get these little fermenting sugar pills in the kit [07:48] throw that away [07:48] it's crap [07:48] and it makes the beer taste crap - I know coz I tested one or two bottles with that [07:48] you get Fermentation Sugar for R20/pack which is enough for 23L batch [07:48] mix that in 15 min before you bottle [07:49] then you are good to go [07:49] beer stands 7 days @ room temp, and 7 days in fridge [07:49] then you can start to drink [07:49] that's pretty cool [07:49] I bought bottles from Consol. Cost me R72/case [07:50] then I got clever [07:50] how long does it last once done? I assume you store it in the fridge? or is that not necessary?> [07:50] depends on how fast you can drink i would think [07:50] I buy returnable beer per case from the liquor store. Costs me R160/case but once they are empty, you got a case of bottles with it's own crate [07:50] I don't drink an awful lot of beer, hence the question [07:50] it's craft beer [07:50] much too carb-heavy to be going crazy [07:50] it's not pasteurized [07:51] so you gotta keep it in the fridge [07:51] ah [07:51] I have a bar-fridge just for my beer [07:51] so another R1000 for a mini fridge [07:51] well, yes [07:51] yeah, the wife will be unimpressed if I fill the fridge with beer that i hardly ever drink :D [07:51] but your beer kit pays for itself in as little as 4 batches in terms of what you save buying the equivalent in beer [07:52] depends how long it lasts though, i don't drink all that much beer [07:52] If you drink a lot of beer, it is well worth making your own [07:52] well it gets better with time [07:52] maybe I should look into distilling my own brandy instead [07:52] not sure about brandy [07:52] beer you can brew for own consumption without issues [07:53] but with brandy you may need to get some type of liquor license [07:53] just check [07:53] http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Homemade-Brandy [07:53] way too much work, lol [07:54] i'll stick to making my own biltong and getting the booze at tops :D [07:54] I had a biltong maker [07:54] Kilos: I will fill in the membership at a later stage :> Can I use a fake name? :O the whole thing about the shadow project is privacy :P [07:54] http://aboutshadow.com [07:54] Cats ripped it apart trying to get to the meat [07:55] lol [07:55] eish :-o [07:55] my biggest hassle is the kids keep asking 20 times a day if the biltong is ready yet [07:56] haha [07:56] sadly not got a cat anymore [07:56] been there [07:57] SDCDev i suppose so [07:58] :O or I will use my other nick :) [07:58] nomster [07:58] same as padroni [07:58] eh - what now? [07:59] can you use your name with nomster [08:00] Padroni i think beer could be classed as healthy [08:00] lol [08:00] it stops your tummy from shrinking [08:00] well there are so many sets of rules for what is "healthy" you can twist anything to be considered healthy [08:01] lol [08:01] indeed [08:02] ThatGraemeGuy: check ur pvt [08:03] thanks, i found it via the magic of google ;-) [08:04] yw [08:04] it's a nice hobby to get into [08:25] hi drussell [09:39] hi Private_User [09:50] anyone using S3Fox? [09:50] S3 Browser plugin [09:51] hmm... [09:51] good morning nuvolari [10:53] oh hi oom Kilos :) [10:53] gaan dit goed oom? [10:54] goed dankie en self seun [11:08] wb pieter2627 [11:53] http://i.imgur.com/lLo84rw.png [11:54] hahaha what are you doing ThatGraemeGuy [11:55] looks pretty though [11:55] discovered a glitch in the matrix [11:55] ah [11:55] glitches dont affect trees? [11:59] i suspect the tree spawned there because there happened to be a dirt block in that mess [11:59] ah [12:00] is there some trick in running a .jar file [12:00] java -jar file.jar [12:00] ty [12:02] ai! [12:02] Error: Unable to access jarfile JsigGen.jar [12:02] i tried sudo as well [12:03] maybe it doesnt work on 14.04 anymore [12:04] this is what im trying to run [12:04] http://www.arachnoid.com/JSigGen/index.html [12:05] does the file actually exist? [12:05] ya i have the package in downloads [12:06] i took Here is the Java JAR archive, what to Java is an application file, compatible with most platforms. near the bottom [12:07] had it running in 10.10 but thats a lifetime ago [12:08] works for me [12:08] maybe your download didn't complete properly [12:08] oh my [12:08] Kilos: output of 'ls -l JsigGen.jar' [12:09] ls: cannot access JsigGen.jar: No such file or directory [12:09] i wonder if its permissions or something [12:10] Are you in the downloads folder - output of pwd [12:10] /home/miles [12:11] yeah, either you're in the wrong dir or there's something wrong with that file [12:11] must i cd to /downloads [12:11] o_O [12:11] * ThatGraemeGuy runs off [12:11] do a 'cd Downloads' first or 'java -jar Downloads/JSigGen.jar' [12:12] bash: cd: Downloads first or java: No such file or directory [12:12] haha [12:12] wait [12:12] haha [12:14] Kilos: sorted? [12:14] wait [12:15] miles@P64:~/Downloads$ java -jar Downloads/JSigGen.jar [12:15] Error: Unable to access jarfile Downloads/JSigGen.jar [12:15] oh wait some more [12:15] Is that where the file is? [12:15] ya [12:15] find . -name JSigGen.jar [12:15] find ~ -name JSigGen.jar [12:15] sorry, second one [12:16] find: `/home/miles/.cache/dconf': Permission denied [12:16] /home/miles/Downloads/JSigGen.jar [12:16] download it again, could just be incomplete [12:16] ok [12:17] 'miles@P64:~/Downloads$' means you already cd(ed) to Downloads [12:17] ya im there [12:17] so no need to have Downloads again with 'java -jar Downloads/JSigGen.jar' [12:18] just 'java -jar JSigGen.jar' [12:18] i realised that after sorry [12:18] it's fine. so it's ok now [12:18] *? [12:19] woooo its working ty [12:19] new download [12:19] now to find the frequency that affects miggies [12:21] die goed freet my [12:21] vreet ook [12:22] hi spinza [12:40] lol [12:40] sounds like an april fool joke [12:41] Bye everyone , have a nice evening , God bless [12:42] nono ThatGraemeGuy they really do bite me the pesky things [12:42] can pc speakers even produce a sound of high enough frequency? my wharfedales only manage up to around 25kHz afaik [12:43] so hopefully i can find the frequency that chases them [12:43] and those are slightly better than your average set of desktop noise boxes [12:43] ive got it running at 15k now [12:44] if you play with that sig gen you will see at some place peeps moan they getting headaches [12:44] at onther place all dogs start howling [12:44] another [12:45] at 15khz i almost feel more than hear the low grumbling kinda sound [12:49] what speakers are you using for that? [12:49] i'm skeptical that desktop speakers can even manage that [12:49] genius with built in amp [12:51] you have the specific model? [12:51] lemme look [12:52] when you say "miggies" you mean mosquitoes or some other bug? [12:52] SP-G16 [12:52] midges [12:52] and white fly [12:52] they are tiny, come in through mosquito screens [12:55] they live under leaves of veggies and eat all the chlorophyl out of the leaves and the plant doesnt bare any fruit [12:56] so it seems that the validity of ultrasonic sound in repelling bugs is a bit controversial [12:56] leaves all go yellow bit by bit till plant dies [12:56] im gonne try [12:56] but if it were to work, the idea is that these are very high frequencies [12:56] nothing to lose [12:56] i.e. much higher than humans can hear [12:56] and we typically top out around 20kHz [12:57] and not-so-conincidentally, that's where most speakers max out as well [12:57] so you aren't able to get anywhere near the kind of frequencies needed, and that's if it even works at all [12:57] thats why i wanted this sig gen you just use the mouse wheel to change frequency [12:58] * ThatGraemeGuy sighs [12:58] ok carry on [12:58] lol [12:58] not really sure why i bother anymore [12:59] do the speakers max out because of speaker design or because we just cant hear anymore [12:59] does it matter? you're going to keep at it anyway :-) [12:59] but yes, they cannot physically manage more than that [13:00] haha ya ill keep trying [13:00] exactly [13:00] well these things eat me so i have to find somehing [13:00] well keep going because f$%k science and logic [13:02] thats how breakthroughs are my, by peeps not accepting the obvious [13:02] most finds are by accident [13:02] s/my/made [13:03] yes, I'm sure you are about to accidentally discover that a pair of R300 speakers are actually capable of 5x higher frequencies than the people who designed and manufacured them thought physically possible [13:04] no man [13:05] i might even try sending out frequencies on an antenna [13:05] lol [13:06] ok, so then you're going to accidentally discover that radio waves and sound waves are actually the same, despite what millions of hours of scientific evidence to the contrary says [13:06] but play with it and there is some freq that you cant hear anymore and next thing the dogs start howling [13:08] im not trying to discover anything, im trying to chase bugs [13:08] yup, good luck [13:08] ty [13:11] Kilos: rather than sound, you might wanna go for smell. try researching if any essential oils might affect them [13:11] smoke them out [13:13] i wanted to smoke them out and sis said it would stain ceiling and walls [13:14] ill google if any of the oils help pieter2627 i know citronella doesnt work [13:15] sleep with a fan running [13:16] ya i do that ThatGraemeGuy its all that blows them away but starting to get cold now [13:17] sleep with a fan header running [13:17] :-p [13:17] uh, 'heater' :-/ [13:17] no heaters here , electricity too expensive [13:23] the most important will be to kill the larva somehow so that you don't have a problem again in a few days/weeks [13:23] they breed all over in damp grass and under any leaves they can find the swine things [13:24] catch them, fry them up in some butter, garlic and bacon [13:24] would have to kill them in the whole tvl to have some peace [13:24] lol [13:24] only grass an leaves? then just burn down everything and turn it into a desert, easy [13:24] oh [13:25] nono we need some green showing [13:25] hi smile [13:25] too much dust without grass [13:25] hi Kilos :D [13:36] whats news smile [13:37] Kilos: kill la kill is almost fully watched :p [13:37] that's 25 episodes of anime [13:38] lol [13:39] whats the link for it smile [13:39] tara does anime drawings maybe she will enjoy it too [13:40] I hope she will :) [14:12] ThatGraemeGuy cant you hear the whistle at 50 khz [14:13] i was running at 15 hz before [14:13] not 15 khz [14:14] speakers can't produce a soundwave at 50kHz, nor can humans hear it [14:14] oh my [14:14] so whats the high pitched whistle i hear [14:14] something less than 50kHz? :) [14:15] maybe im not human [14:15] that's plausible [14:15] :-p [14:15] ah maybe its not accurate [14:46] hmm... me not human [15:04] Hello... [15:30] hi Mopkop === smile is now known as Guest19608 [16:36] hi :p === Guest19608 is now known as smile [16:37] haha [16:37] hi zeratul [16:38] hi [16:38] smile you playing again? [16:39] anybody have experience setting up Afrihost static ip with xl2tpd ? [16:40] Kilos: playing what? :p [16:40] with joining and leaving? [16:40] with guest and you [16:40] ya that [16:41] zeratul youll have to be patient, guys most likely just getting home [16:46] zeratul did you look at this http://wiki.openwrt.org/inbox/openswanxl2tpvpn [16:47] Kilos: yeah sorry I need to setup sasl :p [16:48] np [16:54] hmm... [17:03] hi rohanza welcome to ubuntu-za [17:07] Hi Kilos, nick was taken - was me (zeratul) asking about xl2tpd with afrihost [17:08] ah cool, just hang here rohanza someone will help you or make some suggestions [17:09] thanks :) [17:09] tell us a bit about yourself in the meantime [17:10] i gotta go eat [17:10] wbb [17:26] aw i thought id come back and read your life history [17:26] lol i meant what OS are you using and in what area are you rohanza [17:27] and you better register this nick if you want to keep it [17:27] yeah haha thought so [17:28]