| studio-user705 | hi | 03:11 |
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| holstein | o/ | 03:11 |
| studio-user282 | non riesco a guardare i video su you tube | 09:27 |
| studio-user282 | con ubuntu studio | 09:27 |
| cfhowlett | !it | studio-user282 | 09:29 |
| ubottu | studio-user282: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) | 09:29 |
| francis_ | quick question. i have intalled the ubuntu studio distro but kept only the audio. does this make the system faster and more stable or not? | 16:23 |
| cfhowlett | francis_, no and no | 16:23 |
| holstein | no software makes your hardware any "faster".. | 16:23 |
| holstein | you can configure any OS to make better use of resources, but, ubuntustudio is not tailored for that. its for audio production | 16:24 |
| francis_ | but i thought the processing would be better without background apps running | 16:24 |
| holstein | i say, use your system "as-is" and tweak as needed | 16:24 |
| holstein | francis_: were "background apps" running? | 16:24 |
| francis_ | i dont know , thats why im asking you guys | 16:24 |
| holstein | anyways, i say, use your machine, and when you have problems with system resources, you can look into what you need | 16:25 |
| francis_ | i only installed the audio stuff without the plug ins | 16:25 |
| francis_ | for ardour | 16:25 |
| cfhowlett | francis_, "background"? you mean the graphics, photography and publishing apps? NONE of those normally run in the background | 16:25 |
| holstein | francis_: audio plugins are *not* running in the background | 16:25 |
| francis_ | yes thats what im talking about | 16:25 |
| holstein | ardour wont be either | 16:25 |
| cfhowlett | francis_, what are you system specifications? | 16:25 |
| holstein | i say, install ubuntustudio, start using the machine, and address issues as they happen, rather than trying to make a "lean" system | 16:26 |
| francis_ | im on an old dell optiplex 780 with 4 gigs of ram | 16:26 |
| francis_ | im going to do a build in august so im practicing now | 16:26 |
| francis_ | its my first album recorded on linux | 16:26 |
| francis_ | im going to do a small film about it | 16:27 |
| holstein | you shouldnt need "better" hardware to make an audio recording | 16:27 |
| francis_ | you think the dell will cut it? | 16:27 |
| cfhowlett | francis_, more ram usually yields performance. bear that in mind for your build. | 16:27 |
| cfhowlett | francis_, cut ... it? | 16:27 |
| holstein | francis_: the specs you reference will.. i dont know what drivers you need, or have | 16:27 |
| cfhowlett | francis_, oh, for a an album? possibly | 16:28 |
| francis_ | im using the rme babyface | 16:28 |
| holstein | folks have been making audio recordings for *years* on machines much less performant | 16:28 |
| francis_ | me too but im unsure of linux. ive only beed 'at it' a few months | 16:28 |
| holstein | francis_: sure.. linux is what it is | 16:28 |
| holstein | francis_: linux wont make any magical setup automatically make your machine "better" | 16:29 |
| holstein | typically, linux makes better use of system resources | 16:29 |
| francis_ | i love it and the whole linux community but im trying to get my system perfect so that when i start recording i dont need to speak with you guys ha ha | 16:29 |
| holstein | unfortunately, a lot of folks try and come to linux, and expect "magic", or, as you are doing, come and try and "configure" things, and break things.. and end up with a bad experience | 16:30 |
| holstein | i say, use ubuntustudio "as-is" and try and keep an open mind, as you try and gain experience | 16:30 |
| cfhowlett | francis_, #opensourcemusicians might be worth a visit once you're ready to start laying tracks. | 16:30 |
| francis_ | i have learned to have respect for the community, i understand that people do most of this in their spare time | 16:30 |
| holstein | francis_: "perfect" is a matter of opinion, and use case | 16:30 |
| francis_ | functional i believe is the word | 16:31 |
| holstein | francis_: ubuntustudio is *not* intended to be, nor is it capable of being "perfect" for your needs.. its intended to be more "middle of the road" | 16:31 |
| holstein | i use ubuntu, and linux for all these tasks | 16:31 |
| francis_ | it should be able to record audio at 96k right? | 16:31 |
| holstein | francis_: friend, again, folks have been doing that for *years* | 16:32 |
| holstein | francis_: nothing about linux or ubuntustudio will prevent you from doing that | 16:32 |
| francis_ | i hate plug ins and software synths so there wont be any cpu damage | 16:32 |
| holstein | francis_: now, there are *lots* of variables.. the hardware support, for one | 16:32 |
| holstein | francis_: plugins and software synths are just that.. software.. they dont damage anc CPU | 16:32 |
| holstein | any* | 16:32 |
| holstein | francis_: if you dont want them, dont use them.. but, i urge you to not rip parts of the system out, til you gain more experience | 16:33 |
| francis_ | ok | 16:33 |
| holstein | i record 8 tracks at a time, via firewire, 24/96 on a netbook | 16:34 |
| holstein | 2 gigs of ram.. smaller CPU | 16:34 |
| holstein | why? because its portable | 16:34 |
| holstein | i dont expect magic, and i dont mix or edit on it | 16:34 |
| francis_ | very cool, this is what i need to know because if thats the case then i may not even need to build a new computer | 16:34 |
| holstein | i *only* track on the machine.. and i move the project to the main rig ASAP | 16:34 |
| francis_ | why | 16:35 |
| holstein | francis_: its slow, as i mentioned.. i dont *need* to mix on it, so i dont | 16:35 |
| francis_ | so its because f your computer, not the system right? | 16:35 |
| holstein | francis_: for me to load up a session and expect to edit it on a netbook would be setting up for failure | 16:35 |
| holstein | francis_: there are *no* limitations built into linux, or ubuntu | 16:36 |
| francis_ | do you use ardour? | 16:36 |
| holstein | francis_: ubuntu does what it does and has no need to prevent me from doing anything.. | 16:36 |
| holstein | francis_: correct.. ardour.. and also, mixbus, build on ardour | 16:36 |
| francis_ | mixbus? does that come with ubuntu studio distro | 16:37 |
| holstein | anyways, the main rig i have is a dual core with 8 gigs of ram.. the bottle neck in that system it not the hardware specs | 16:37 |
| holstein | francis_: mixbus is a commercial product. it comes with nothing.. you purchase it, from the creators.. its built on ardour | 16:37 |
| holstein | i have a backup machine that i use often that is a p4 with 4 gigs of ram | 16:38 |
| francis_ | so your big rig has ardour and you mix on it? | 16:38 |
| holstein | francis_: mix/edit.. has linux/ardour/mixbus.. etc on it | 16:38 |
| francis_ | what is the terminal command for me to see what ghz my machine is? | 16:39 |
| holstein | http://askubuntu.com/questions/218567/any-way-to-check-the-clock-speed-of-my-processor | 16:40 |
| holstein | lscpu | 16:40 |
| holstein | but, that likely only states what speed its *running* at.. could be speed stepping, which, i disable, as needed | 16:41 |
| holstein | cpu stepping can mess with latency, and performance, so, i disable it.. at the bios level, or as needed in software | 16:41 |
| francis_ | im looking at that mixbus thing, it looks very cool. i might have to get it. | 16:41 |
| holstein | they have a demo | 16:41 |
| francis_ | is it basicall7y a plug in package? | 16:42 |
| francis_ | i dont use eq or plug ins | 16:43 |
| holstein | sure. dont if you dont want to | 16:43 |
| holstein | but, you likely prefer just staying analog the whole time | 16:43 |
| holstein | just get a tape machine, or something like a adat appliance | 16:43 |
| holstein | the *only* appeal to me for working in a computer is the ease of editing and adding plugins | 16:43 |
| holstein | otherwise, the overhead of running a computer is quite unnecessary.. and i wouldnt bother | 16:44 |
| francis_ | http://francisdunnery.bandcamp.com/ | 16:44 |
| francis_ | check out track 2 | 16:44 |
| francis_ | its got no eq or plug ins | 16:44 |
| francis_ | no compression | 16:44 |
| holstein | anyways, mixbus uses the harrison consoles DSP and "bakes" it into the UI for ardour | 16:44 |
| holstein | the tape saturation on the big consoles they sell | 16:44 |
| holstein | either you want it, or you dont, and there is a demo.. | 16:45 |
| francis_ | right | 16:45 |
| francis_ | ill check out the demo | 16:45 |
| holstein | i like to keep plugins to a minimum | 16:45 |
| holstein | i dont expect them to save the project, or compensate for bad signal path.. | 16:46 |
| francis_ | im 52 i dont like modern sounding records | 16:46 |
| holstein | sure.. | 16:46 |
| holstein | im 40, and i dont like recordings.. | 16:46 |
| francis_ | too much top, too much bottom, too much comporession | 16:46 |
| cfhowlett | I'm 29 and holding | 16:46 |
| francis_ | ha ha | 16:46 |
| holstein | yup. i want to put my ears on it.. or you can just turn that crap off ;) | 16:46 |
| holstein | but, anyways.. its what we have.. and i like to try and make things sound as natural as possible | 16:46 |
| holstein | using a plugin doesnt dictate that its unnatural, or "bad" sounding.. | 16:47 |
| francis_ | you should check out my album, its the coolest sounding record ive done | 16:47 |
| francis_ | yes it does | 16:47 |
| holstein | francis_: no | 16:47 |
| francis_ | i can hear it and i dont like it | 16:47 |
| holstein | francis_: thats your opinion, and thats find.. you are entitled.. but, its not a given | 16:47 |
| holstein | francis_: i hear *lots* of recording done on analog gear that sound 'bad' to me | 16:47 |
| francis_ | i dont record analogue | 16:48 |
| holstein | computers actually didnt make sound bad.. | 16:48 |
| francis_ | i just dont use plug ins or eq | 16:48 |
| holstein | *something* colors the sound.. its just you choose to not do that in software.. | 16:48 |
| francis_ | the first track on that link is a drum box, the rest from track 2 onwards are cool recordings with nothing on them | 16:49 |
| holstein | anyways, again, you are entitled.. and i think your methods are commendable, as long as you are open to others having other methods.. if not, then, this really isnt a disscussion anymore | 16:49 |
| francis_ | people love different things, of course thats what makes it fantastic, just me, personally, i have difficulty with the sound of plug ins | 16:50 |
| holstein | so, dont use them.. no one will make you, i promise | 16:50 |
| francis_ | arour is my new tape machine ha ha | 16:50 |
| holstein | unless you are trying to get clients.. then, you'll likely want to reconsider.. | 16:50 |
| francis_ | yes | 16:52 |
| francis_ | anyway guys, i have to go now | 16:52 |
| francis_ | i appreciate your time | 16:52 |
| holstein | lol.. "96k, the highest quality" | 16:52 |
| francis_ | ill be back on when i run into trouble and i will take your advice | 16:52 |
| holstein | i know, i was going to close the page if i couldnt hear it in 96k ;) | 16:52 |
| holstein | i like how bandcamp gives lots of options for downloads | 16:53 |
| holstein | francis_: sure, good luck, and im just pulling up your project.. | 16:53 |
| francis_ | it was the only one at the time that would let you have a download of 98k | 16:53 |
| francis_ | make sure you start on track 2 onwards, track 1 is a drumbox | 16:54 |
| holstein | sure.. and only dogs and bats care/notice ;) | 16:54 |
| holstein | but i do appreciate the options.. | 16:54 |
| francis_ | yes ha ha | 16:54 |
| francis_ | and fish | 16:54 |
| francis_ | bye guys, have a fantastic day | 16:54 |
| holstein | francis_: o/ | 16:55 |
| holstein | francis_: nice track, BTW | 16:55 |
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