[03:11] <studio-user705> hi
[03:11] <holstein> o/
[09:27] <studio-user282> non riesco a guardare i video su you tube
[09:27] <studio-user282> con ubuntu studio
[09:29] <cfhowlett> !it | studio-user282
[16:23] <francis_> quick question. i have intalled the ubuntu studio distro but kept only the audio. does this make the system faster and more stable or not?
[16:23] <cfhowlett> francis_, no and no
[16:23] <holstein> no software makes your hardware any "faster"..
[16:24] <holstein> you can configure any OS to make better use of resources, but, ubuntustudio is not tailored for that. its for audio production
[16:24] <francis_> but i thought the processing would be better without background apps running
[16:24] <holstein> i say, use your system "as-is" and tweak as needed
[16:24] <holstein> francis_: were "background apps" running?
[16:24] <francis_> i dont know , thats why im asking you guys
[16:25] <holstein> anyways, i say, use your machine, and when you have problems with system resources, you can look into what you need
[16:25] <francis_> i only installed the audio stuff without the plug ins
[16:25] <francis_> for ardour
[16:25] <cfhowlett> francis_, "background"?  you mean the graphics, photography and publishing apps?  NONE of those normally run in the background
[16:25] <holstein> francis_: audio plugins are *not* running in the background
[16:25] <francis_> yes thats what im talking about
[16:25] <holstein> ardour wont be either
[16:25] <cfhowlett> francis_, what are you system specifications?
[16:26] <holstein> i say, install ubuntustudio, start using the machine, and address issues as they happen, rather than trying to make a "lean" system
[16:26] <francis_> im on an old dell optiplex 780 with 4 gigs of ram
[16:26] <francis_> im going to do a build in august so im practicing now
[16:26] <francis_> its my first album recorded on linux
[16:27] <francis_> im going to do a small film about it
[16:27] <holstein> you shouldnt need "better" hardware to make an audio recording
[16:27] <francis_> you think the dell will cut it?
[16:27] <cfhowlett> francis_, more ram usually yields performance.  bear that in mind for your build.
[16:27] <cfhowlett> francis_, cut ... it?
[16:27] <holstein> francis_: the specs you reference will.. i dont know what drivers you need, or have
[16:28] <cfhowlett> francis_, oh, for a an album?  possibly
[16:28] <francis_> im using the rme babyface
[16:28] <holstein> folks have been making audio recordings for *years* on machines much less performant
[16:28] <francis_> me too but im unsure of linux. ive only beed 'at it' a few months
[16:28] <holstein> francis_: sure.. linux is what it is
[16:29] <holstein> francis_: linux wont make any magical setup automatically make your machine "better"
[16:29] <holstein> typically, linux makes better use of system resources
[16:29] <francis_> i love it and the whole linux community but im trying to get my system perfect so that when i start recording i dont need to speak with you guys ha ha
[16:30] <holstein> unfortunately, a lot of folks try and come to linux, and expect "magic", or, as you are doing, come and try and "configure" things, and break things.. and end up with a bad experience
[16:30] <holstein> i say, use ubuntustudio "as-is" and try and keep an open mind, as you try and gain experience
[16:30] <cfhowlett> francis_, #opensourcemusicians might be worth a visit once you're ready to start laying tracks.
[16:30] <francis_> i have learned to have respect for the community, i understand that people do most of this in their spare time
[16:30] <holstein> francis_: "perfect" is a matter of opinion, and use case
[16:31] <francis_> functional i believe is the word
[16:31] <holstein> francis_: ubuntustudio is *not* intended to be, nor is it capable of being "perfect" for your needs.. its intended to be more "middle of the road"
[16:31] <holstein> i use ubuntu, and linux for all these tasks
[16:31] <francis_> it should be able to record audio at 96k right?
[16:32] <holstein> francis_: friend, again, folks have been doing that for *years*
[16:32] <holstein> francis_: nothing about linux or ubuntustudio will prevent you from doing that
[16:32] <francis_> i hate plug ins and software synths so there wont be any cpu damage
[16:32] <holstein> francis_: now, there are *lots* of variables.. the hardware support, for one
[16:32] <holstein> francis_: plugins and software synths are just that.. software.. they dont damage anc CPU
[16:32] <holstein> any*
[16:33] <holstein> francis_: if you dont want them, dont use them.. but, i urge you to not rip parts of the system out, til you gain more experience
[16:33] <francis_> ok
[16:34] <holstein> i record 8 tracks at a time, via firewire, 24/96 on a netbook
[16:34] <holstein> 2 gigs of ram.. smaller CPU
[16:34] <holstein> why? because its portable
[16:34] <holstein> i dont expect magic, and i dont mix or edit on it
[16:34] <francis_> very cool, this is what i need to know because if thats the case then i may not even need to build a new computer
[16:34] <holstein> i *only* track on the machine.. and i move the project to the main rig ASAP
[16:35] <francis_> why
[16:35] <holstein> francis_: its slow, as i mentioned.. i dont *need* to mix on it, so i dont
[16:35] <francis_> so its because f your computer, not the system right?
[16:35] <holstein> francis_: for me to load up a session and expect to edit it on a netbook would be setting up for failure
[16:36] <holstein> francis_: there are *no* limitations built into linux, or ubuntu
[16:36] <francis_> do you use ardour?
[16:36] <holstein> francis_: ubuntu does what it does and has no need to prevent me from doing anything..
[16:36] <holstein> francis_: correct.. ardour.. and also, mixbus, build on ardour
[16:37] <francis_> mixbus? does that come with ubuntu studio distro
[16:37] <holstein> anyways, the main rig i have is a dual core with 8 gigs of ram.. the bottle neck in that system it not the hardware specs
[16:37] <holstein> francis_: mixbus is a commercial product. it comes with nothing.. you purchase it, from the creators.. its built on ardour
[16:38] <holstein> i have a backup machine that i use often that is a p4 with 4 gigs of ram
[16:38] <francis_> so your big rig has ardour and you mix on it?
[16:38] <holstein> francis_: mix/edit.. has linux/ardour/mixbus.. etc on it
[16:39] <francis_> what is the terminal command for me to see what ghz my machine is?
[16:40] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/218567/any-way-to-check-the-clock-speed-of-my-processor
[16:40] <holstein> lscpu
[16:41] <holstein> but, that likely only states what speed its *running* at.. could be speed stepping, which, i disable, as needed
[16:41] <holstein> cpu stepping can mess with latency, and performance, so, i disable it.. at the bios level, or as needed in software
[16:41] <francis_> im looking at that mixbus thing, it looks very cool. i might have to get it.
[16:41] <holstein> they have a demo
[16:42] <francis_> is it basicall7y a plug in package?
[16:43] <francis_> i dont use eq or plug ins
[16:43] <holstein> sure. dont if you dont want to
[16:43] <holstein> but, you likely prefer just staying analog the whole time
[16:43] <holstein> just get a tape machine, or something like a adat appliance
[16:43] <holstein> the *only* appeal to me for working in a computer is the ease of editing and adding plugins
[16:44] <holstein> otherwise, the overhead of running a computer is quite unnecessary.. and i wouldnt bother
[16:44] <francis_> http://francisdunnery.bandcamp.com/
[16:44] <francis_> check out track 2
[16:44] <francis_> its got no eq or plug ins
[16:44] <francis_> no compression
[16:44] <holstein> anyways, mixbus uses the harrison consoles DSP and "bakes" it into the UI for ardour
[16:44] <holstein> the tape saturation on the big consoles they sell
[16:45] <holstein> either you want it, or you dont, and there is a demo..
[16:45] <francis_> right
[16:45] <francis_> ill check out the demo
[16:45] <holstein> i like to keep plugins to a minimum
[16:46] <holstein> i dont expect them to save the project, or compensate for bad signal path..
[16:46] <francis_> im 52 i dont like modern sounding records
[16:46] <holstein> sure..
[16:46] <holstein> im 40, and i dont like recordings..
[16:46] <francis_> too much top, too much bottom, too much comporession
[16:46] <cfhowlett> I'm 29 and holding
[16:46] <francis_> ha ha
[16:46] <holstein> yup. i want to put my ears on it.. or you can just turn that crap off ;)
[16:46] <holstein> but, anyways.. its what we have.. and i like to try and make things sound as natural as possible
[16:47] <holstein> using a plugin doesnt dictate that its unnatural, or "bad" sounding..
[16:47] <francis_> you should check out my album, its the coolest sounding record ive done
[16:47] <francis_> yes it does
[16:47] <holstein> francis_: no
[16:47] <francis_> i can hear it and i dont like it
[16:47] <holstein> francis_: thats your opinion, and thats find.. you are entitled.. but, its not a given
[16:47] <holstein> francis_: i hear *lots* of recording done on analog gear that sound 'bad' to me
[16:48] <francis_> i dont record analogue
[16:48] <holstein> computers actually didnt make sound bad..
[16:48] <francis_> i just dont use plug ins or eq
[16:48] <holstein> *something* colors the sound.. its just you choose to not do that in software..
[16:49] <francis_> the first track on that link is a drum box, the rest from track 2 onwards are cool recordings with nothing on them
[16:49] <holstein> anyways, again, you are entitled.. and i think your methods are commendable, as long as you are open to others having other methods.. if not, then, this really isnt a disscussion anymore
[16:50] <francis_> people love different things, of course thats what makes it fantastic, just me, personally, i have difficulty with the sound of plug ins
[16:50] <holstein> so, dont use them.. no one will make you, i promise
[16:50] <francis_> arour is my new tape machine ha ha
[16:50] <holstein> unless you are trying to get clients.. then, you'll likely want to reconsider..
[16:52] <francis_> yes
[16:52] <francis_> anyway guys, i have to go now
[16:52] <francis_> i appreciate your time
[16:52] <holstein> lol.. "96k, the highest quality"
[16:52] <francis_> ill be back on when i run into trouble and i will take your advice
[16:52] <holstein> i know, i was going to close the page if i couldnt hear it in 96k ;)
[16:53] <holstein> i like how bandcamp gives lots of options for downloads
[16:53] <holstein> francis_: sure, good luck, and im just pulling up your project..
[16:53] <francis_> it was the only one at the time that would let you have a download of 98k
[16:54] <francis_> make sure you start on track 2 onwards, track 1 is a drumbox
[16:54] <holstein> sure.. and only dogs and bats care/notice ;)
[16:54] <holstein> but i do appreciate the options..
[16:54] <francis_> yes ha ha
[16:54] <francis_> and fish
[16:54] <francis_> bye guys, have a fantastic day
[16:55] <holstein> francis_: o/
[16:55] <holstein> francis_: nice track, BTW