| Guest50312 | i'm in the live image, using it now, of kubuntu 15.04, and the installer crashes on efi as per this bug report; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1428877 how do i work around it or fix it | 05:19 |
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| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1428877 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "partman crashes when trying to make a EFI partition" [High,Triaged] | 05:19 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 09:19 |
| Dry_Lips | furkan: I used to have lag with KDE running on older hardware, but I haven't noticed lag with (relatively) new computers running proprietary drivers.. | 11:16 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 11:33 |
| chotaz`w | how do I "upgrade" to a beta release? | 11:42 |
| maxb | update-manager -c -d | 11:43 |
| BluesKaj | !upgrade | 11:43 |
| ubottu | For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade | 11:43 |
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| lolcat | hello | 12:54 |
| lolcat | What kernel in 15.04? | 12:54 |
| MoonUnit` | 3.19 | 12:55 |
| lolcat | MoonUnit`: is it a good kernel? | 13:04 |
| lolcat | MoonUnit`: is it faster than 3.16? | 13:04 |
| MoonUnit` | no idea, using 4.0-rc's | 13:05 |
| MoonUnit` | 4.0 has decent fan control for my radeon card. | 13:05 |
| knittl | hi. I'm using gnome-shell and after resuming from standby, shortcuts stop working (i.e. super-t, super-l, volume buttons). Is there a related bug report/fix? | 14:26 |
| Erthe | Does someone have a link I can visit with the list of open bugs in the 15.04 Kubuntu? | 14:56 |
| Erthe | Trying to determine if I'd be logging a duplicate. | 14:56 |
| MoonUnit` | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.structural_subscriber=&field. | 14:57 |
| MoonUnit` | milestone%3Alist=68119&field.component-empty-marker=1&field.tag=kubuntu&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.status_upstream-empty-marker=1&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_no_package.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_branches.used=&field.has_branches=on&field.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches=on&field.has_blueprints.used=&field.has_blueprints=on&field.has_no_blueprints.used=& | 14:57 |
| MoonUnit` | field.has_no_blueprints=on&search=Search | 14:57 |
| MoonUnit` | eek, maybe i should shorten that | 14:57 |
| MoonUnit` | Erthe: http://bit.ly/1FI2ojh | 14:58 |
| Erthe | MoonUnit`: Thanks :D | 14:59 |
| Erthe | OK, so I have a bug that does not provide a crash report dialog; however, something is very much failing. | 15:04 |
| Erthe | ie. I can't use ubuntu-bug either | 15:05 |
| MoonUnit` | noticed their was a apport-kde update today, try updating and trying ubuntu-bug again | 15:09 |
| Erthe | apport-kde crashed on me, logged a bug against it. | 15:10 |
| Erthe | The bug I'm experiencing is when using web shortcuts or entering a URL directly into the Alt-F2 dialog I receive a message involving permissions and kioexec | 15:11 |
| MoonUnit` | hmm just tried via alt-f2 worked here, i'm using kubuntu 15.04. | 15:12 |
| Erthe | I'm on Kubuntu 15.04 Beta 2 | 15:13 |
| Erthe | It also happens if I click a link in Konversation | 15:13 |
| lolcat | if I upgrade to 15.04 will I have to dist upgrade again when it goes out of beta? | 15:15 |
| MoonUnit` | Erthe: in default applications i had to set 'Web Browser' to to firefox, annoying problems with chrome taking over. | 15:16 |
| Erthe | https://www.dropbox.com/s/19pq8493jy1380o/crash.png?dl=0 | 15:16 |
| MoonUnit` | lolcat: yes | 15:16 |
| Erthe | That's the initial error | 15:16 |
| lolcat | MoonUnit`: hm | 15:17 |
| Erthe | https://www.dropbox.com/s/twvabuewv2b95nl/crash2.png?dl=0 | 15:17 |
| Erthe | And then this one. | 15:17 |
| Erthe | MoonUnit`: Oh... I use Google Chrome as well. | 15:17 |
| Erthe | Let me see if that'll fix that. | 15:18 |
| MoonUnit` | try checking these to see if they are set to firefox too. | 15:19 |
| MoonUnit` | sudo update-alternatives --config gnome-www-browser | 15:19 |
| MoonUnit` | sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser | 15:19 |
| lolcat | does zfs work in 15.04? | 15:20 |
| lolcat | *** Please make sure the kmod spl devel <kernel> package for your | 15:21 |
| lolcat | wat? | 15:21 |
| Erthe | Ohhh, weird. The default application for text/html was winebrowser | 15:23 |
| lordievader | Hihi | 15:23 |
| MoonUnit` | hi | 15:24 |
| lordievader | That was a laugh, not a 2x hi :P | 15:24 |
| MoonUnit` | heh | 15:24 |
| Erthe | OK, I can use Chrome without issue; just wondering why the default was winebrowser | 15:26 |
| MoonUnit` | probably due to windows .URL files. | 15:29 |
| lolcat | I am trying to upgrade | 15:34 |
| lolcat | it says /boot needs more free space | 15:34 |
| lolcat | wat to do? | 15:34 |
| lordievader | lolcat: Clean it up (through your package manager) or repartition. | 15:34 |
| lordievader | Resize partitions I mean. How large is your /boot? | 15:34 |
| lolcat | /dev/sda2 237M 157M 68M 70% /boot | 15:35 |
| lolcat | this is the last time I trust the installer to set up lvm | 15:35 |
| lolcat | lordievader: what command to remove the old kernel stuff? | 15:36 |
| lolcat | initrd.img-3.13.0-19-generic, initrd.img-3.16.0-33-generic and initrd.img-3.16.0-34-generic is useless | 15:36 |
| lordievader | lolcat: apt-get purge linux-image-<version>-generic | 15:36 |
| lordievader | lolcat: 240M is quite small. | 15:37 |
| lordievader | Should be fine for ~3 kernels. | 15:37 |
| lolcat | File descriptor 65 (/dev/pts/12) leaked on vgs invocation. Parent PID 17712: /usr/sbin/grub-probe | 15:38 |
| lolcat | lordievader: the installer is crap and it wouldn't let me manually partition properly so I just gave up | 15:38 |
| lolcat | but purging just one was enough to be able to install vivid | 15:39 |
| lolcat | fingers crossed for zfs working | 15:40 |
| lordievader | lolcat: The text-based installer lets you do what ever you want ;) | 15:40 |
| Erthe | lolcat: I always setup my own partitions manually. | 15:40 |
| Erthe | lolcat: No distro installer does it the way I like it. | 15:40 |
| lolcat | I don't like partitions, /home on zfs and everything else on / with no swap | 15:40 |
| Erthe | No offense to the *ubuntu folks | 15:41 |
| Erthe | I don't use swap either with the SSD. | 15:42 |
| lolcat | I don't mind swap, but then I would put it on a sparsefile or on zfs | 15:42 |
| Erthe | I'm sure that 16Gb of RAM is enough. | 15:42 |
| Erthe | I barely reach 3GB at my busiest. | 15:43 |
| lolcat | my / is a SSD, and my /home is on a HDD. And yes, 16gb ram is sufficient. | 15:43 |
| Erthe | My / is an 128Gb SSD and my /home is a 500Gb SSD. Simple setup. | 15:43 |
| lolcat | I have a 60GB ssd | 15:44 |
| lolcat | 750gb hdd | 15:44 |
| lolcat | Erthe: I have more gigabytes than you1 | 15:44 |
| Erthe | lolcat: Well, I have a HAF-XM box with two x docks; have a 1TB HDD in there for large files. | 15:44 |
| Erthe | lolcat: It's NTFS though, shared with my Win7 install. | 15:45 |
| lolcat | Erthe: I have an icy box with two 3tb harddrive | 15:45 |
| lolcat | upgrade started | 15:45 |
| lolcat | cant wait for bleeding edge | 15:45 |
| Erthe | I'm loving Kubuntu 15.04 so far. | 15:46 |
| Erthe | Dying for a port of QtCurve to KF5 though. | 15:46 |
| knittl | is there a bug report related to shortcuts stopping to work after resume from suspend | 15:47 |
| lolcat | Erthe: I use xubunut or ubunut I think, but I only use i3wm | 15:59 |
| Erthe | lolcat: I've been running/following KDE since version 0.9x; there was a time I ran WindowMaker or BlackBox due to system constraints for memory/CPU, but these days that's hardly an obstacle. | 16:00 |
| lolcat | Erthe: I just found out I hate menus, and I hate windows | 16:00 |
| lolcat | i3wm has neither | 16:01 |
| lordievader | i3 is quite nice. | 16:01 |
| lordievader | Still I use KDE :P | 16:01 |
| lolcat | but it has too many things | 16:02 |
| Erthe | It comes down to what the environment provides on a daily basis and how tightly knit all of the elements are. | 16:02 |
| Erthe | No desktop environment is perfect for everyone. | 16:03 |
| lordievader | True that. | 16:04 |
| Erthe | I think the only beef I've had with KDE since Plasma is the damned peanut. | 16:05 |
| lordievader | Hehe | 16:05 |
| Erthe | And in Plasma 5 I can't get it to rest in a corner. | 16:05 |
| MoonUnit` | Erthe: yeah top left was annoying for me, moved the cashew to top right. | 16:07 |
| MoonUnit` | get nicely covered up by the browser now. | 16:07 |
| Erthe | No matter where it is, I can get to everything I need without it. I honestly don't think I ever use it. | 16:08 |
| Erthe | I wish I could disable the damned thing :D | 16:08 |
| Erthe | bbiab. | 16:19 |
| massiveblue | Hello, i have a boot issue with ubuntu gnome vivid, grub2. Freshly installed sys, last installed package: fglrx-driver I also have a BootInfo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10793356/ I only see the grey rectangle after BIOS and nothing happens. What can I do to debug this? | 18:21 |
| BluesKaj | massiveblue, maybe use the default driver 'til you fihgure out why fglrx isn't working | 18:24 |
| furkan | would anybody else with a radeon card (southern islands) using the open-source driver mind checking if they can reproduce this glitch: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/1440602 | 18:25 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1440602 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (Ubuntu) "Graphics corruption after suspend/resume cycle" [High,Confirmed] | 18:25 |
| massiveblue | BluesKaj: i cant start even with the opensource-driver | 18:25 |
| furkan | massiveblue: which card? | 18:26 |
| BluesKaj | massiveblue, xserver-xorg-video-ati doesn't work ? | 18:26 |
| massiveblue | furkan: Radeon HD5770 | 18:27 |
| massiveblue | BluesKaj: it worked, then i installed fglrx, machine doesnt boot, i started live sys, chrooted and removed fglrx, ran update-grub, but the machine doesnt boot | 18:28 |
| furkan | strange that it wouldn't start with the open source driver | 18:28 |
| massiveblue | i think there is a problem with my grub | 18:28 |
| furkan | ah | 18:28 |
| furkan | here's an idea | 18:29 |
| furkan | i had a similar issue | 18:29 |
| furkan | boot into a recovery terminal, and type in | 18:29 |
| furkan | dpkg -l | grep fglrx | 18:29 |
| furkan | and then apt-get remove --purge all the remaining packages that you see | 18:29 |
| furkan | there should be 3 of them | 18:29 |
| furkan | it's not enough to remove, you need to remove --purge (at least that's what i have to do) | 18:30 |
| furkan | if you only remove, it leaves some configuration files behind, which screws things up | 18:30 |
| massiveblue | ok, how to get into "recovery terminal"? i have a live-cd which i can boot and chroot into my environment | 18:30 |
| furkan | no need | 18:30 |
| furkan | at your GRUB menu, go to advanced options | 18:31 |
| furkan | and choose the 3.19 recovery mode option | 18:31 |
| furkan | and then you'll be presented with another menu, choose root shell | 18:31 |
| massiveblue | the grub menu is the problem, i see grey rectangle, no entries and also it doesnt react on keyboard inputs | 18:31 |
| furkan | oh... | 18:32 |
| massiveblue | i could take a photo and upload it | 18:32 |
| furkan | when you removed fglrx from the chrooted environment, how did you do it? | 18:32 |
| massiveblue | from chrooted env, aptitude remove | 18:33 |
| furkan | probably worthwhile trying the purge from the chrooted environment then | 18:33 |
| furkan | but i'm not sure if it will fix your grub | 18:33 |
| furkan | maybe you also need to run an update-grub | 18:33 |
| massiveblue | ok, i will give it a try | 18:34 |
| furkan | actually, do run an update-grub | 18:34 |
| furkan | after you've purged fglrx | 18:34 |
| massiveblue | root@ubuntu-gnome:~# mount -o subvol=@ /dev/sda1 /mnt/ | 18:36 |
| massiveblue | root@ubuntu-gnome:~# mount -o bind /dev/ /mnt/dev/ | 18:36 |
| massiveblue | root@ubuntu-gnome:~# mount -o bind /sys/ /mnt/sys/ | 18:36 |
| massiveblue | root@ubuntu-gnome:~# mount -o bind /proc/ /mnt/proc/ | 18:36 |
| massiveblue | root@ubuntu-gnome:~# cp /proc/mounts /mnt/etc/mtab | 18:36 |
| massiveblue | cp: ‘/proc/mounts’ and ‘/mnt/etc/mtab’ are the same file | 18:36 |
| massiveblue | root@ubuntu-gnome:~# chroot /mnt/ | 18:36 |
| furkan | massiveblue: might wanna pastebin it | 18:37 |
| massiveblue | ok | 18:39 |
| massiveblue | http://paste.ubuntu.com/10793608/ looks fine to me | 18:42 |
| massiveblue | i will try to reboot now | 18:42 |
| massiveblue | back again, this didnt worked | 19:04 |
| furkan | no change at all? | 19:04 |
| furkan | from your pastebin, what was interesting is that the fglrx packages still showed as installed | 19:05 |
| furkan | even though you tried to remove them before | 19:05 |
| furkan | the "ii" means they were installed | 19:05 |
| furkan | i was expecting them to show "rc" | 19:05 |
| furkan | which means they're removed, but config files are still present | 19:05 |
| massiveblue | no change at all, i upload a photo where i get stuck | 19:07 |
| lordievader | massiveblue: How much doesn't boot your machine? Does it show a splash screen? | 19:07 |
| massiveblue | http://abload.de/image.php?img=img_20150410_204348rvjbf.jpg | 19:07 |
| massiveblue | lordievader: does the photo-link answer your question? | 19:08 |
| lordievader | massiveblue: Not really. Unless that should be a splash... | 19:08 |
| massiveblue | lordievader: it's just a grey rectangle | 19:09 |
| lordievader | Grey? | 19:09 |
| massiveblue | lordievader: i dont know if this the grub2 splash screen | 19:09 |
| lordievader | massiveblue: You don't get to see grub? | 19:09 |
| massiveblue | yeah, big light grey rectangle, with darker grey border | 19:09 |
| massiveblue | lordievader: i dont get to menu, no | 19:10 |
| lordievader | Then it has nothing to do with radeon or fglrx, your grub is most likely broken. | 19:10 |
| lordievader | You do boot to a drive with grub installed? | 19:10 |
| massiveblue | lordievader: yes, i only have a single drive installed | 19:11 |
| furkan | maybe he needs to do this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1581099 | 19:11 |
| lordievader | Fresh install? | 19:11 |
| massiveblue | installed today | 19:12 |
| massiveblue | rebooted sometimes successfully | 19:12 |
| lordievader | So you did have the install running at some point? | 19:12 |
| massiveblue | last i wanted to switch to fglrx, because of video playback performance, and from there on i cant boot | 19:13 |
| massiveblue | yes, the system was running already | 19:13 |
| lordievader | After installing fglrx could you still get into grub? | 19:14 |
| massiveblue | no | 19:14 |
| lordievader | That is very odd... | 19:14 |
| massiveblue | this grey screen isnt from my bios or sr, i think it is from grub! | 19:14 |
| furkan | well i think installing fglrx does modify the grub config, does it not? because it needs to add the nomodeset option? | 19:15 |
| lordievader | Are you in a live environment now? | 19:15 |
| lordievader | furkan: I may hope fglrx does not add that. | 19:15 |
| lordievader | furkan: fglrx has nothing to do with grub. | 19:15 |
| massiveblue | i chat from my notebook, the non-booting machine is booted up to installer live cd | 19:15 |
| lordievader | massiveblue: Right, just to be safe, could you pastebin the install's /boot/grub/grub.cfg? | 19:16 |
| massiveblue | i remember that i installed microcde-package too | 19:16 |
| massiveblue | yes, give me some minutes | 19:16 |
| massiveblue | http://paste.ubuntu.com/10793909/ | 19:23 |
| massiveblue | did i mention that this ubuntu-grome? | 19:25 |
| lordievader | Is this zfs or something, the /@/ thing. | 19:26 |
| furkan | in an earlier pastebin it was showing btrfs for his main partition | 19:27 |
| massiveblue | btrfs | 19:27 |
| lordievader | Ah, I heard btfs was broken with the kernel Vivid has. | 19:28 |
| massiveblue | this notebook has vivid gnome btrfs too! | 19:29 |
| lordievader | Yeah, and that was about the kernel, not grub. | 19:29 |
| lordievader | However I have no knowledge of BTRFS, or the caveats it has. | 19:30 |
| massiveblue | ok, thank you | 19:30 |
| lordievader | One thing you could try is reinstalling grub from the chroot. | 19:31 |
| furkan | if you don't know how, you can use this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1581099 | 19:35 |
| massiveblue | i reinstalled grub from internet followig the guide in this thread and it still does not boot. :( | 19:57 |
| lordievader | massiveblue: Still no grub? (Also do you hold shift after the bios?) | 20:02 |
| massiveblue | holding shift gives me menu! and it boots after selecting default entry!!! | 20:03 |
| massiveblue | thank you very much! but why is this? | 20:04 |
| viKKKtor | HI! | 20:07 |
| viKKKtor | anyone using Kubuntu Vivid? | 20:07 |
| viKKKtor | I'm haing a very horrible bug | 20:07 |
| lordievader | massiveblue: Ah, so it probably wasn't grub. But the kernel you saw. | 20:08 |
| lordievader | viKKKtor: I have it on my thinclient. | 20:08 |
| massiveblue | good bye, thank you for help | 20:16 |
| furkan | lordievader: i'm curious now, any explanation for that? what difference did it make that he manually selected the entry instead of letting it boot automatically? | 21:29 |
| natacus | Anyone been using Kubuntu 15.04 - would like to start using it now for my work - but should I wait? | 21:48 |
| lordievader | furkan: I don't know. But if grub automatically boots a ~broken kernel and when you get the menu you select something else... might explain things. | 23:13 |
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