[05:19] i'm in the live image, using it now, of kubuntu 15.04, and the installer crashes on efi as per this bug report; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1428877 how do i work around it or fix it [05:19] Launchpad bug 1428877 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "partman crashes when trying to make a EFI partition" [High,Triaged] [09:19] Good morning. [11:16] furkan: I used to have lag with KDE running on older hardware, but I haven't noticed lag with (relatively) new computers running proprietary drivers.. [11:33] Hiyas all [11:42] how do I "upgrade" to a beta release? [11:43] update-manager -c -d [11:43] !upgrade [11:43] For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade === kickinz1 is now known as kickinz1|lunch === kickinz1|lunch is now known as kickinz1 [12:54] hello [12:54] What kernel in 15.04? [12:55] 3.19 [13:04] MoonUnit`: is it a good kernel? [13:04] MoonUnit`: is it faster than 3.16? [13:05] no idea, using 4.0-rc's [13:05] 4.0 has decent fan control for my radeon card. [14:26] hi. I'm using gnome-shell and after resuming from standby, shortcuts stop working (i.e. super-t, super-l, volume buttons). Is there a related bug report/fix? [14:56] Does someone have a link I can visit with the list of open bugs in the 15.04 Kubuntu? [14:56] Trying to determine if I'd be logging a duplicate. [14:57] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.structural_subscriber=&field. [14:57] milestone%3Alist=68119&field.component-empty-marker=1&field.tag=kubuntu&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.status_upstream-empty-marker=1&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_no_package.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_branches.used=&field.has_branches=on&field.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches=on&field.has_blueprints.used=&field.has_blueprints=on&field.has_no_blueprints.used=& [14:57] field.has_no_blueprints=on&search=Search [14:57] eek, maybe i should shorten that [14:58] Erthe: http://bit.ly/1FI2ojh [14:59] MoonUnit`: Thanks :D [15:04] OK, so I have a bug that does not provide a crash report dialog; however, something is very much failing. [15:05] ie. I can't use ubuntu-bug either [15:09] noticed their was a apport-kde update today, try updating and trying ubuntu-bug again [15:10] apport-kde crashed on me, logged a bug against it. [15:11] The bug I'm experiencing is when using web shortcuts or entering a URL directly into the Alt-F2 dialog I receive a message involving permissions and kioexec [15:12] hmm just tried via alt-f2 worked here, i'm using kubuntu 15.04. [15:13] I'm on Kubuntu 15.04 Beta 2 [15:13] It also happens if I click a link in Konversation [15:15] if I upgrade to 15.04 will I have to dist upgrade again when it goes out of beta? [15:16] Erthe: in default applications i had to set 'Web Browser' to to firefox, annoying problems with chrome taking over. [15:16] https://www.dropbox.com/s/19pq8493jy1380o/crash.png?dl=0 [15:16] lolcat: yes [15:16] That's the initial error [15:17] MoonUnit`: hm [15:17] https://www.dropbox.com/s/twvabuewv2b95nl/crash2.png?dl=0 [15:17] And then this one. [15:17] MoonUnit`: Oh... I use Google Chrome as well. [15:18] Let me see if that'll fix that. [15:19] try checking these to see if they are set to firefox too. [15:19] sudo update-alternatives --config gnome-www-browser [15:19] sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser [15:20] does zfs work in 15.04? [15:21] *** Please make sure the kmod spl devel package for your [15:21] wat? [15:23] Ohhh, weird. The default application for text/html was winebrowser [15:23] Hihi [15:24] hi [15:24] That was a laugh, not a 2x hi :P [15:24] heh [15:26] OK, I can use Chrome without issue; just wondering why the default was winebrowser [15:29] probably due to windows .URL files. [15:34] I am trying to upgrade [15:34] it says /boot needs more free space [15:34] wat to do? [15:34] lolcat: Clean it up (through your package manager) or repartition. [15:34] Resize partitions I mean. How large is your /boot? [15:35] /dev/sda2 237M 157M 68M 70% /boot [15:35] this is the last time I trust the installer to set up lvm [15:36] lordievader: what command to remove the old kernel stuff? [15:36] initrd.img-3.13.0-19-generic, initrd.img-3.16.0-33-generic and initrd.img-3.16.0-34-generic is useless [15:36] lolcat: apt-get purge linux-image--generic [15:37] lolcat: 240M is quite small. [15:37] Should be fine for ~3 kernels. [15:38] File descriptor 65 (/dev/pts/12) leaked on vgs invocation. Parent PID 17712: /usr/sbin/grub-probe [15:38] lordievader: the installer is crap and it wouldn't let me manually partition properly so I just gave up [15:39] but purging just one was enough to be able to install vivid [15:40] fingers crossed for zfs working [15:40] lolcat: The text-based installer lets you do what ever you want ;) [15:40] lolcat: I always setup my own partitions manually. [15:40] lolcat: No distro installer does it the way I like it. [15:40] I don't like partitions, /home on zfs and everything else on / with no swap [15:41] No offense to the *ubuntu folks [15:42] I don't use swap either with the SSD. [15:42] I don't mind swap, but then I would put it on a sparsefile or on zfs [15:42] I'm sure that 16Gb of RAM is enough. [15:43] I barely reach 3GB at my busiest. [15:43] my / is a SSD, and my /home is on a HDD. And yes, 16gb ram is sufficient. [15:43] My / is an 128Gb SSD and my /home is a 500Gb SSD. Simple setup. [15:44] I have a 60GB ssd [15:44] 750gb hdd [15:44] Erthe: I have more gigabytes than you1 [15:44] lolcat: Well, I have a HAF-XM box with two x docks; have a 1TB HDD in there for large files. [15:45] lolcat: It's NTFS though, shared with my Win7 install. [15:45] Erthe: I have an icy box with two 3tb harddrive [15:45] upgrade started [15:45] cant wait for bleeding edge [15:46] I'm loving Kubuntu 15.04 so far. [15:46] Dying for a port of QtCurve to KF5 though. [15:47] is there a bug report related to shortcuts stopping to work after resume from suspend [15:59] Erthe: I use xubunut or ubunut I think, but I only use i3wm [16:00] lolcat: I've been running/following KDE since version 0.9x; there was a time I ran WindowMaker or BlackBox due to system constraints for memory/CPU, but these days that's hardly an obstacle. [16:00] Erthe: I just found out I hate menus, and I hate windows [16:01] i3wm has neither [16:01] i3 is quite nice. [16:01] Still I use KDE :P [16:02] but it has too many things [16:02] It comes down to what the environment provides on a daily basis and how tightly knit all of the elements are. [16:03] No desktop environment is perfect for everyone. [16:04] True that. [16:05] I think the only beef I've had with KDE since Plasma is the damned peanut. [16:05] Hehe [16:05] And in Plasma 5 I can't get it to rest in a corner. [16:07] Erthe: yeah top left was annoying for me, moved the cashew to top right. [16:07] get nicely covered up by the browser now. [16:08] No matter where it is, I can get to everything I need without it. I honestly don't think I ever use it. [16:08] I wish I could disable the damned thing :D [16:19] bbiab. [18:21] Hello, i have a boot issue with ubuntu gnome vivid, grub2. Freshly installed sys, last installed package: fglrx-driver I also have a BootInfo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10793356/ I only see the grey rectangle after BIOS and nothing happens. What can I do to debug this? [18:24] massiveblue, maybe use the default driver 'til you fihgure out why fglrx isn't working [18:25] would anybody else with a radeon card (southern islands) using the open-source driver mind checking if they can reproduce this glitch: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/1440602 [18:25] Launchpad bug 1440602 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (Ubuntu) "Graphics corruption after suspend/resume cycle" [High,Confirmed] [18:25] BluesKaj: i cant start even with the opensource-driver [18:26] massiveblue: which card? [18:26] massiveblue, xserver-xorg-video-ati doesn't work ? [18:27] furkan: Radeon HD5770 [18:28] BluesKaj: it worked, then i installed fglrx, machine doesnt boot, i started live sys, chrooted and removed fglrx, ran update-grub, but the machine doesnt boot [18:28] strange that it wouldn't start with the open source driver [18:28] i think there is a problem with my grub [18:28] ah [18:29] here's an idea [18:29] i had a similar issue [18:29] boot into a recovery terminal, and type in [18:29] dpkg -l | grep fglrx [18:29] and then apt-get remove --purge all the remaining packages that you see [18:29] there should be 3 of them [18:30] it's not enough to remove, you need to remove --purge (at least that's what i have to do) [18:30] if you only remove, it leaves some configuration files behind, which screws things up [18:30] ok, how to get into "recovery terminal"? i have a live-cd which i can boot and chroot into my environment [18:30] no need [18:31] at your GRUB menu, go to advanced options [18:31] and choose the 3.19 recovery mode option [18:31] and then you'll be presented with another menu, choose root shell [18:31] the grub menu is the problem, i see grey rectangle, no entries and also it doesnt react on keyboard inputs [18:32] oh... [18:32] i could take a photo and upload it [18:32] when you removed fglrx from the chrooted environment, how did you do it? [18:33] from chrooted env, aptitude remove [18:33] probably worthwhile trying the purge from the chrooted environment then [18:33] but i'm not sure if it will fix your grub [18:33] maybe you also need to run an update-grub [18:34] ok, i will give it a try [18:34] actually, do run an update-grub [18:34] after you've purged fglrx [18:36] root@ubuntu-gnome:~# mount -o subvol=@ /dev/sda1 /mnt/ [18:36] root@ubuntu-gnome:~# mount -o bind /dev/ /mnt/dev/ [18:36] root@ubuntu-gnome:~# mount -o bind /sys/ /mnt/sys/ [18:36] root@ubuntu-gnome:~# mount -o bind /proc/ /mnt/proc/ [18:36] root@ubuntu-gnome:~# cp /proc/mounts /mnt/etc/mtab [18:36] cp: ‘/proc/mounts’ and ‘/mnt/etc/mtab’ are the same file [18:36] root@ubuntu-gnome:~# chroot /mnt/ [18:37] massiveblue: might wanna pastebin it [18:39] ok [18:42] http://paste.ubuntu.com/10793608/ looks fine to me [18:42] i will try to reboot now [19:04] back again, this didnt worked [19:04] no change at all? [19:05] from your pastebin, what was interesting is that the fglrx packages still showed as installed [19:05] even though you tried to remove them before [19:05] the "ii" means they were installed [19:05] i was expecting them to show "rc" [19:05] which means they're removed, but config files are still present [19:07] no change at all, i upload a photo where i get stuck [19:07] massiveblue: How much doesn't boot your machine? Does it show a splash screen? [19:07] http://abload.de/image.php?img=img_20150410_204348rvjbf.jpg [19:08] lordievader: does the photo-link answer your question? [19:08] massiveblue: Not really. Unless that should be a splash... [19:09] lordievader: it's just a grey rectangle [19:09] Grey? [19:09] lordievader: i dont know if this the grub2 splash screen [19:09] massiveblue: You don't get to see grub? [19:09] yeah, big light grey rectangle, with darker grey border [19:10] lordievader: i dont get to menu, no [19:10] Then it has nothing to do with radeon or fglrx, your grub is most likely broken. [19:10] You do boot to a drive with grub installed? [19:11] lordievader: yes, i only have a single drive installed [19:11] maybe he needs to do this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1581099 [19:11] Fresh install? [19:12] installed today [19:12] rebooted sometimes successfully [19:12] So you did have the install running at some point? [19:13] last i wanted to switch to fglrx, because of video playback performance, and from there on i cant boot [19:13] yes, the system was running already [19:14] After installing fglrx could you still get into grub? [19:14] no [19:14] That is very odd... [19:14] this grey screen isnt from my bios or sr, i think it is from grub! [19:15] well i think installing fglrx does modify the grub config, does it not? because it needs to add the nomodeset option? [19:15] Are you in a live environment now? [19:15] furkan: I may hope fglrx does not add that. [19:15] furkan: fglrx has nothing to do with grub. [19:15] i chat from my notebook, the non-booting machine is booted up to installer live cd [19:16] massiveblue: Right, just to be safe, could you pastebin the install's /boot/grub/grub.cfg? [19:16] i remember that i installed microcde-package too [19:16] yes, give me some minutes [19:23] http://paste.ubuntu.com/10793909/ [19:25] did i mention that this ubuntu-grome? [19:26] Is this zfs or something, the /@/ thing. [19:27] in an earlier pastebin it was showing btrfs for his main partition [19:27] btrfs [19:28] Ah, I heard btfs was broken with the kernel Vivid has. [19:29] this notebook has vivid gnome btrfs too! [19:29] Yeah, and that was about the kernel, not grub. [19:30] However I have no knowledge of BTRFS, or the caveats it has. [19:30] ok, thank you [19:31] One thing you could try is reinstalling grub from the chroot. [19:35] if you don't know how, you can use this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1581099 [19:57] i reinstalled grub from internet followig the guide in this thread and it still does not boot. :( [20:02] massiveblue: Still no grub? (Also do you hold shift after the bios?) [20:03] holding shift gives me menu! and it boots after selecting default entry!!! [20:04] thank you very much! but why is this? [20:07] HI! [20:07] anyone using Kubuntu Vivid? [20:07] I'm haing a very horrible bug [20:08] massiveblue: Ah, so it probably wasn't grub. But the kernel you saw. [20:08] viKKKtor: I have it on my thinclient. [20:16] good bye, thank you for help [21:29] lordievader: i'm curious now, any explanation for that? what difference did it make that he manually selected the entry instead of letting it boot automatically? [21:48] Anyone been using Kubuntu 15.04 - would like to start using it now for my work - but should I wait? [23:13] furkan: I don't know. But if grub automatically boots a ~broken kernel and when you get the menu you select something else... might explain things.