| rmg51 | Morning | 09:30 |
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| JonathanD | Morning. | 11:38 |
| teddy-dbear | Morning peoples and whatever else is around | 12:12 |
| ChinnoDog | Do I want to upgrade to 14.10? | 17:17 |
| teddy-dbear | stay with the LTS | 17:24 |
| teddy-dbear | no need to do the 6 month thing | 17:25 |
| ChinnoDog | Who should upgrade then? | 17:28 |
| teddy-dbear | those who really want to | 17:32 |
| teddy-dbear | and don't mind doing it every 6 months | 17:33 |
| ChinnoDog | I was considering it to get better hardware support but I see Vivid is scheduled for release in 13 days anyway. | 17:41 |
| lazyPower | typically when you want to a) test new features b) get the hw support that hasn't been backported yet c) ride the rolling six month nuke/repave mantra | 17:41 |
| lazyPower | ssweeny: sound about right? ^ | 17:41 |
| ChinnoDog | I don't want to wipe and start over. That is too much work. | 17:41 |
| lazyPower | ChinnoDog - do you practice Configuration Management? | 17:42 |
| pleia2 | ChinnoDog: the LTS versions have HWE (HardWare Enablement stack) that updates kernels and things for new hardware https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack | 17:42 |
| lazyPower | i've gotten this down to a science where i can be back to the state my machine was in prior to a reinstall about an hour after i plug in the USB key | 17:42 |
| pleia2 | so you can use the 14.10 kernel with 14.04 | 17:42 |
| lazyPower | Right, there's *some* oddball stuff tahts still in HWE testing that sits for a bit but they eventuallyt rickle back down | 17:43 |
| lazyPower | Typically every HWE cut has everything from -TESTING back down. | 17:43 |
| pleia2 | I've had good luck with it | 17:44 |
| lazyPower | unless im' grossly misinformed | 17:44 |
| pleia2 | I think you're right | 17:44 |
| ChinnoDog | I'm already using the newer kernel. I didn't run the command on that page but I did install and am running on linux-generic-lts-utopic | 17:45 |
| pleia2 | ah | 17:45 |
| pleia2 | the other ones upgrade your graphics stuff, what you want depends on what hardware you're trying to support | 17:45 |
| ChinnoDog | I tried to run the full command on that page just now but apt tells me there are unmet dependencies. | 17:46 |
| * waltman still hasn't upgraded his linode because he's worried about breakage | 17:47 | |
| ChinnoDog | oh. The xserver-xorg-lts-utopic package probably doesn't work because I am using xorg-edgers | 17:48 |
| ChinnoDog | I was trying to resolve nVidia graphics problems. I never did get it resolved so I guess I could remove the nvidia drivers and that repo and then run that command. | 17:49 |
| ChinnoDog | lazyPower: How do you restore your machine to its previous state in an hour? | 20:23 |
| lazyPower | ChinnoDog: i have ansible scripts that setup my workstation, and restore my projects from git/my-nas, et-al. | 20:35 |
| ChinnoDog | How do you reconfigure Ubuntu to your liking? Back up package list from apt? What about /etc? | 20:36 |
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