[09:30] Morning [11:38] Morning. [12:12] Morning peoples and whatever else is around [17:17] Do I want to upgrade to 14.10? [17:24] stay with the LTS [17:25] no need to do the 6 month thing [17:28] Who should upgrade then? [17:32] those who really want to [17:33] and don't mind doing it every 6 months [17:41] I was considering it to get better hardware support but I see Vivid is scheduled for release in 13 days anyway. [17:41] typically when you want to a) test new features b) get the hw support that hasn't been backported yet c) ride the rolling six month nuke/repave mantra [17:41] ssweeny: sound about right? ^ [17:41] I don't want to wipe and start over. That is too much work. [17:42] ChinnoDog - do you practice Configuration Management? [17:42] ChinnoDog: the LTS versions have HWE (HardWare Enablement stack) that updates kernels and things for new hardware https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack [17:42] i've gotten this down to a science where i can be back to the state my machine was in prior to a reinstall about an hour after i plug in the USB key [17:42] so you can use the 14.10 kernel with 14.04 [17:43] Right, there's *some* oddball stuff tahts still in HWE testing that sits for a bit but they eventuallyt rickle back down [17:43] Typically every HWE cut has everything from -TESTING back down. [17:44] I've had good luck with it [17:44] unless im' grossly misinformed [17:44] I think you're right [17:45] I'm already using the newer kernel. I didn't run the command on that page but I did install and am running on linux-generic-lts-utopic [17:45] ah [17:45] the other ones upgrade your graphics stuff, what you want depends on what hardware you're trying to support [17:46] I tried to run the full command on that page just now but apt tells me there are unmet dependencies. [17:47] * waltman still hasn't upgraded his linode because he's worried about breakage [17:48] oh. The xserver-xorg-lts-utopic package probably doesn't work because I am using xorg-edgers [17:49] I was trying to resolve nVidia graphics problems. I never did get it resolved so I guess I could remove the nvidia drivers and that repo and then run that command. [20:23] lazyPower: How do you restore your machine to its previous state in an hour? [20:35] ChinnoDog: i have ansible scripts that setup my workstation, and restore my projects from git/my-nas, et-al. [20:36] How do you reconfigure Ubuntu to your liking? Back up package list from apt? What about /etc?