[09:30] <rmg51> Morning
[11:38] <JonathanD> Morning.
[12:12] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples and whatever else is around
[17:17] <ChinnoDog> Do I want to upgrade to 14.10?
[17:24] <teddy-dbear> stay with the LTS
[17:25] <teddy-dbear> no need to do the 6 month thing
[17:28] <ChinnoDog> Who should upgrade then?
[17:32] <teddy-dbear> those who really want to
[17:33] <teddy-dbear> and don't mind doing it every 6 months
[17:41] <ChinnoDog> I was considering it to get better hardware support but I see Vivid is scheduled for release in 13 days anyway.
[17:41] <lazyPower> typically when you want to a) test new features b) get the hw support that hasn't been backported yet c) ride the rolling six month nuke/repave mantra
[17:41] <lazyPower> ssweeny: sound about right? ^
[17:41] <ChinnoDog> I don't want to wipe and start over. That is too much work.
[17:42] <lazyPower> ChinnoDog - do you practice Configuration Management?
[17:42] <pleia2> ChinnoDog: the LTS versions have HWE (HardWare Enablement stack) that updates kernels and things for new hardware https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[17:42] <lazyPower> i've gotten this down to a science where i can be back to the state my machine was in prior to a reinstall about an hour after i plug in the USB key
[17:42] <pleia2> so you can use the 14.10 kernel with 14.04
[17:43] <lazyPower> Right, there's *some* oddball stuff tahts still in HWE testing that sits for a bit but they eventuallyt rickle back down
[17:43] <lazyPower> Typically every HWE cut has everything from -TESTING back down.
[17:44] <pleia2> I've had good luck with it
[17:44] <lazyPower> unless im' grossly misinformed
[17:44] <pleia2> I think you're right
[17:45] <ChinnoDog> I'm already using the newer kernel. I didn't run the command on that page but I did install and am running on linux-generic-lts-utopic
[17:45] <pleia2> ah
[17:45] <pleia2> the other ones upgrade your graphics stuff, what you want depends on what hardware you're trying to support
[17:46] <ChinnoDog> I tried to run the full command on that page just now but apt tells me there are unmet dependencies.
[17:47]  * waltman still hasn't upgraded his linode because he's worried about breakage
[17:48] <ChinnoDog> oh. The xserver-xorg-lts-utopic package probably doesn't work because I am using xorg-edgers
[17:49] <ChinnoDog> I was trying to resolve nVidia graphics problems. I never did get it resolved so I guess I could remove the nvidia drivers and that repo and then run that command.
[20:23] <ChinnoDog> lazyPower: How do you restore your machine to its previous state in an hour?
[20:35] <lazyPower> ChinnoDog: i have ansible scripts that setup my workstation, and restore my projects from git/my-nas, et-al.
[20:36] <ChinnoDog> How do you reconfigure Ubuntu to your liking? Back up package list from apt? What about /etc?