[04:54] morning all [06:11] hi andrewlsd [06:12] Hi Kilos [06:12] wb stranger [06:13] ty [06:13] you getting behind [06:14] can you edit wiki pages? [06:14] I was busy offsite for a couple of weeks, and then there was a long weekend. [06:14] ok you forgiven [06:14] Kilos, I know how to, not sure if I have permission to. [06:14] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Members [06:15] you can add you there [06:17] k === andrewlsd is now known as mciverza [06:18] hehe [06:19] :D [06:19] morning inetpro i can see it! [06:19] w0000t [06:20] now we get the runaround, what is it! [06:21] ty mciverza [06:21] hi ton [06:21] oh he left [06:21] sigh RTFS [06:24] Kilos: RTFS? [06:24] read the flippin script [06:24] i get that every time i break something [06:24] or cant do something [06:26] theblazehen are you actually here? [06:32] that looks better mciverza [06:33] was hard to believe you just joined lp [06:33] had to figure out LP was launchpad. [06:33] lol [06:33] * mciverza facepalm [06:34] how good are you at fixing bugs? we have our own team doing ubuntu bug fixing [06:35] led by octoquad [06:37] kilos. nice. not sure. also, whilst perusing the ZAteam page I followed the lnk to tonberry, thence maties-ubuntu group and ended up on hgibson's page. found this awesome "how the internet started" http://staff.lib.sun.ac.za/~hgibson/how-the-internet-began/ [06:38] nuvolari, you in the Western Cape these days? I thought you were in KZN? [06:38] na he moved months ago [06:42] haha [06:42] clever read that [06:44] Kilos. I lol'd about it [06:44] yeah [06:49] very clever worked out [06:50] * mciverza is off to lurk for a bit, and find coffee [06:52] k [07:14] uh oh [07:14] hi SDCDev [07:17] wb inetpro what did you break [07:22] hi TinuvaMac [07:22] morning Kilos [07:39] morning Kilos [08:01] good morning all [08:01] hi magespawn [08:03] ohi everyone [08:03] and oom Kilos [08:03] lol hello my pro [08:03] * Kilos waits for comment [08:05] Maaz: rtfs' [08:05] inetpro: *blink* [08:05] Maaz: rtfs [08:05] Read the Freaking Source/Spec/Screen [08:05] where did you get script from? [08:06] * Kilos waits for more comment [08:06] Kilos: what can you see? [08:06] it! [08:06] oh [08:06] how long is a piece of string? [08:07] such a beautiful site [08:07] duh! what are you guys working on dodo [08:07] https://ubuntu-za.org/ [08:07] africa [08:08] beautifuller [08:08] ai! [08:08] that's not done yet man [08:08] yeah we need some clarity from fly before the jumotron edits [08:09] arent they supposed to show a different view on every page? [08:09] wasnt that the idea [08:09] Kilos: where did you hide last night? [08:09] here every single minute [08:09] ai! [08:09] i was watching [08:10] just keep watching [08:10] its hard to follow when lots happening same time [08:11] maybe you guys can add the dell lappy thing to the za site as well [08:12] no [08:12] ok [08:13] there was a guy here last night from the site asking where to get buntu preinstalled lappy in za [08:13] why didnt you guide him [08:14] hi rohanza [08:17] Kilos: hi [08:20] hi psyatw [08:21] hi Kilos [08:23] Kilos: it's simple [08:23] * inetpro is not a salesman [08:23] google [08:23] lol [08:24] we have to look past that and help in whatever way to get another person on ubuntu [08:25] Kilos: then look at https://trello.com/c/2swQH0kX and do something about it [08:25] and you are our number one pointer [08:25] eish [08:25] Kilos: no [08:26] yaya you find things quicker than anyone [08:28] sjoe youre joking right? [08:32] now where is captine [08:32] Maaz seen captine [08:32] Kilos: captine was last seen 3 days, 13 hours, 12 minutes and 52 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2015-04-06 21:19:24 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2015-04-06 21:19:27 SAST [08:38] inetpro done [08:40] ai! [08:40] lol [08:40] what did you delete on Trello? [08:40] that link [08:40] why? [08:40] and the investigate deb-delta [08:41] why? [08:41] deb-delta will never be achived [08:41] ai! [08:42] too much work for everyone concerned and all the extra space needed on the host [08:42] but i have it in memory so neb=ver fear [08:42] never either [08:42] hmm... [08:43] im the only one that has been after a deb-delta server anyway [08:43] i think its a massive thing space wise [08:43] almost everything doubled [08:44] and then each user has to install deb-delta stuff as well to get it working [08:44] * inetpro should remember to build a script to make automatic backups of the trello board [08:44] only mobile peeps would even consider it [08:46] i tried to archive them and the delete button showed up too clearly [08:47] be honest, noone else has every bothered with deb-delta [08:48] Kilos: I'll be honest, it's something I want to look at at some point when I have more time [08:50] ok i will remind you [08:50] just remember you need to get someone to host the extra on a server [08:50] its a mirror alongside a mirror [08:51] and its for all releases still in action so major space needed [08:52] Kilos: so if you know it all, why didn't you update the card with the info? [08:52] then we could have moved it to done as well [08:53] ai! [08:53] oh my [08:53] sjoe sorry sir [08:57] hi Rynomster [09:03] hi drussell we good and you? [09:13] hey Kilos [10:23] cheers all, am off again [10:24] hmm... [10:29] hi pieter2627 [10:29] Evening all... Ooi oi Kilos [10:30] lol jy ook tyd verskrik [10:30] half... was uit vir die ander helfte [10:30] lol [10:31] are you glad to be on the bug squad? [10:31] Yea, it seems like a lot of fun [10:32] involved though [10:32] was very interesting watching you two [10:35] You always ask everyone, so someone needs to ask you. Can you also help with bugs? [10:35] im sure others were taking notes as well [10:35] I'm also keeping a reference to the log [10:35] i even battle with bugs that fly around [10:35] * for easy review [10:36] but i will supply moral support [10:36] and stupid remarks now and again [10:38] sounds like triaging :P [10:38] lol i dont even know what that means [10:40] filtering thru what is important and what is not, leaving remarks to get more info, finding dups... [10:51] ah [11:23] Kilos: all good thanks, happy Friday all :oD [11:23] lol [12:11] Kilos: ping [12:12] inetpro pong [12:12] you still talking to me? [12:16] Kilos: why not? [12:16] you still have an issue with thunderbird contacts? [12:17] ya the stupid thing [12:18] ai! [12:18] i made the vcard inported it 3 times and then made some lib thing to export and then reimport but it says it cant [12:18] Kilos: don't bite the hand that feeds you [12:19] now when i want an addy i open evo and get the addy there then use it in TB [12:19] i tried for days with TB man [12:19] did you export properly in Evolution? [12:20] ya [12:20] i can import the vcards [12:21] but they dont save in the personal folder they just add on under it and i cant use them [12:22] with the export it make lbi files or something right? [12:22] evo makes the vcards [12:22] tb imports them [12:23] then tb must export them to make the lbii or whatever they are called [12:23] the export in evolution should make a single file with all the vcards in it [12:23] ya list.vcf [12:24] ok, and when you import you select that [12:24] what happens then? [12:24] i cant remember [12:24] lemme look [12:25] go to Address Book | Tools | Import [12:25] ya ive done theat [12:25] that [12:25] 3 times [12:25] Select Address Books [12:25] Next [12:26] select vCard file [12:26] Next [12:26] select your file [12:27] and what do get then? [12:27] lemme post [12:28] screen shot [12:31] ai! [12:32] http://pasteboard.co/2sCLDRxd.png [12:33] you will see i did the inport thing a few times [12:33] even named one addies [12:33] they all show in thunderbird [12:33] but i uses personal to send mails [12:34] hmm... [12:34] that screenshot only shows the import wizard [12:35] oh my [12:35] so where are the addresses added? [12:35] http://pasteboard.co/2sCLDRxd.png [12:35] sorry [12:36] I see in the background you have Perso... Book, addies, list, list, list and Collec... esses [12:36] oh thats same [12:36] yaya thats them [12:37] so then it was successful, what the problem is? [12:37] all addresses are in them [12:37] but when i send a mail it uses personal and the addies arent in there they are in all the others [12:38] that link said then you must export them to make a new file and then import that file [12:38] that didnt work it said cant import them [12:42] Kilos, Kilos, Kilos [12:42] yessir [12:42] did you do some little bit of RTFS even? [12:42] lots [12:42] ai! [12:43] have you still got that link? [12:43] you can change your preferences sir [12:43] oh [12:44] Kilos: and on top of that, you can simply highlight and drag and drop addresses from one sub folder to the other [12:45] i think it wouldnt allow me to [12:45] couldnt or something [12:45] in prefernces i ticked use addies but it doesnt [12:45] try [12:45] ok [12:47] oh ya i can ctrl+a them but cant paste them into personal [12:48] or ctrl+v [12:49] Kilos: drag [12:49] Kilos: and [12:49] Kilos: drop [12:49] but honestly, it should even matter [12:50] drag drop addies into personal? [12:51] in Preferences | Composition | Addressing | When addressing messages... | [X] Local Address Books [12:52] Kilos: if that is ticked it doesn't matter which sub folder the contacts are in [12:52] lemme see [12:53] ya that is ticked [12:53] now please explain what you struggle with from here [12:53] but it still doesnt find an addy when i start typing it in [12:54] i have to manuall enter a complete address [12:55] this when typing a new message? [12:55] yes [12:55] so, what happens if you press F9? [12:55] at what stage [12:56] while writing a new message - Title: 'Write: (no subject)' [12:57] same as pressing the View menu and selecting Contacts Sidebar [12:57] F9 = same as pressing the View menu and selecting Contacts Sidebar [12:58] lemme try [12:59] that works then i can start typing 4 letters and it see all related addies [12:59] ty inetpro [12:59] now i must remember F9 too [13:01] * Kilos releases that hand from my jaws [13:01] dinkie boetie [13:01] raining here now [13:04] ai! [13:05] ai! for me too, gotta go find sheep in the rain [13:05] will wait till it stops [13:11] big thunder and lightening here now [13:17] we have a lot of thunder; will see you guys later [13:17] ok [13:29] Kilos: no [13:29] no need to remember F9 [13:29] sigh [13:30] just remember RTFS [13:30] oh i saw that ty inetpro [13:30] S = Screen in this case [13:30] sigh [13:31] it seems to have them found now [13:31] just click on the menu and see what options are available for you [13:32] if its working i dont want to even look further. i just want to send some and see [13:33] Kilos: so you still call it "the stupid thing"? [13:33] lol [13:37] ya now everytime i write new iIT opens the F9 thing and fails sending [13:37] when hitting F9 again i seem to be able to send [13:38] just sent you one to test [13:39] did it give you an error message? [13:39] yes [13:39] failed [13:40] and lots of rtfs [13:40] if i hit F9 to close it then IT seems to work [13:40] hee hee [13:41] there's no magic [13:41] every new mail it opens the F9 option [13:42] if IT wasnt so much faster than evo i wouldnt use IT [13:42] oh and the buntu thing too [13:43] dont make me laugh man head too sore [13:43] i dont mind hitting F9 everytime [13:44] cloud cover clearing up here now [14:02] wow we are min today [14:02] marketing strategy fail [14:51] wb Tonberry [14:51] min today? te min mense? [14:51] or min like bleak [14:52] ya so sad [14:52] im digging int hte archives now to see if i can revive some of the long missing ones [14:54] wb pieter2627 [14:59] oi [14:59] SDCDev min like bleak? [15:00] you lost me [15:01] hi Kilos, back in the office, about to go home, did i miss the bug thing? [15:02] nope magespawn the quad guy hasnt arrived yet [15:02] bleak is slang, depressed, not happy [15:02] oh ty [15:03] not kinda whitish because of blood draining outa head [15:03] hehe [15:03] right will chat later [15:03] go safe [16:34] evening superfly [16:34] hi, bye. Gotta go. [16:43] good evening [16:53] evening inetpro ty for the help with IT [16:53] IT seems almost a usable app now [16:59] i go eat [17:26] good evening [17:28] hi magespawn [17:42] so what's up tonight? [17:42] im waiting to see as well [17:42] still waiting on the bug? [17:46] lol [17:48] i think octoquad got busy or called out or something [18:03] that happens too [18:04] hi gremble [18:05] Hello Kilos [18:09] gah [18:10] what you broke [18:11] For some odd reason, this keeps reconnecting inappropriately [18:11] lol [18:11] Kilos: you can ask Tonberry to also join ubuntu-za on LP [18:11] hasnt he? [18:12] nope [18:12] The more I read haskell, the prettier it gets [18:12] I think that I may be starting to like it more than c++ [18:12] lp member since 2006-05-26 [18:12] Kilos: and barrydk [18:13] lol gremble any learning is better than none [18:13] Kilos: member of which group? [18:13] is this a quiz? [18:13] Kilos: yes [18:13] hahahaha [18:14] because you might just be failing again to RTFS [18:14] oh well give me the link where peeps join za then [18:14] Read the fucking screen? [18:14] ai! [18:14] eeek [18:14] Maaz: rtfs [18:14] Read the Freaking Source/Spec/Screen [18:14] gremble my sensitive nature [18:14] gremble: ^^ [18:14] Ah ha [18:15] TIL [18:15] :-) [18:15] and the lady present [18:15] You're afraid of a little vulgarity Kilos? :o [18:15] ive never sworn in from of a lady [18:15] front [18:15] There is a first time for everything :P [18:16] Kilos: never is a long time [18:16] I try not to swear, but RTFM has swearing in it [18:16] I am not averse to profanity though [18:16] you got so much energy why dont you join launchpad ubuntu-za [18:16] I have an account there [18:16] in za [18:17] I had to make one to comment on the LoCo page [18:17] I'm not going to make another account D: [18:17] good then please add yourself here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Members [18:17] I'm not a member. I'm just here to swear [18:18] eeeek [18:18] Kilos: Tonberry is a member of Maties Ubuntu but not the South African Ubuntu team [18:18] you gotta join us to keep me happy [18:18] :p [18:18] Why does Stellenbosch have their own ubuntu team? [18:19] gremble: we should have more such groups [18:19] Why? Fracturing hurts communities [18:20] erm, maybe [18:20] a bit like lug's [18:20] maybe not [18:20] But yes. Perhaps having people close by with meetings that can be attended in person is better [18:21] than having a meeting over IRC [18:21] inetpro you convince gremble and ill get tonberry in the morning [18:21] would be nice if we could have strong smaller localised groups [18:22] when the Africa team has managed to have a life of it's own we'll appoint Kilos to focus on creating smaller groups in each town [18:22] eish [18:22] :P [18:23] oh inetpro i want you to make a list please [18:23] gremble: success breeds success :-) [18:23] And you'll be the his secretary inetpro [18:23] :P [18:23] hehe [18:24] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za/+members?active_batch=75 [18:24] go through those 82 and tell me who you remember and would like back here [18:24] uh [18:24] no [18:24] note 82 [18:24] ai! [18:24] I'm actually laughing out loud [18:24] ok ill just approach them all [18:25] and we want that done before 20:45 no later [18:25] hehe [18:25] * inetpro hiding in the top corner again [18:26] today, just in case that was not clear [18:26] lol [18:27] and note i said please [18:27] dont bite the hand that feeds you [18:28] inetpro ping [18:28] sigh [18:28] * inetpro is not here [18:28] now tomorrow he says pong [18:28] :-) [18:28] lol [18:28] what's wrong Kilos? [18:29] ai! [18:29] now i forgot [18:29] Kilos: sorry but I have other things that keep me busy [18:29] oh i see that banks guy is a za member [18:29] np [18:30] ill do it [18:30] you can call on your other minions to help you [18:31] gremble: help him! [18:31] Psh :P When this computer is open it means that I am programming :P [18:32] no man [18:32] you know the old peeps [18:33] Kilos: please don't force people to take part or even to expose themselves [18:34] ok [18:34] expose themselves? [18:34] i dont force anyone [18:34] some peeps prefer to have a private life [18:34] sigh [18:35] ok ill find new peeps [18:35] like gremble [18:39] Am I a new peep or are you going to find people like me or do I prefer to have a private life? [18:40] im gonna find peeps like you [18:40] I broke my haskell compiler I think [18:40] clever ones that can do the hard work for me [18:40] fix it [18:53] inetpro when you are quiet i worry you adding more stuff to trello [18:57] maybe ill have an early night [18:57] night all. sleep tight [18:57] see m ya morrow [19:19] ai! [20:22] i am also off to bed, good night all [20:24] cheers [20:24] When Kilos isn't here, it gets quite quiet [20:24] :p [20:32] gremble: your fault [20:32] Tonberry: wb [20:34] probably [20:35] lol [20:46] They make such a fuss about the typing in Haskell, and sure it looks neat and a lot more math-like, but it is not as novel [20:46] I think [20:46] The idea certainly isn't [20:59] * inetpro has never even looked at Haskell [21:10] night all [21:30] inetpro: it is pretty neat. I normally dislike programming, but so far I am having a lot of fun [21:30] currently confused as to why I cannot make a type signiture for a function that takes a list of numbers and returns a mean value [21:30] link? [21:30] regardless of whether the input list is floating point or integer values [21:31] Sec, let me see if I can find a nice example [21:31] I'm using o'reilly's book [21:33] hmm... [21:34] wish I had enough money to pay for all these fantastic books out there [21:34] I nicked it from piratebay [21:34] * inetpro can't even affor a single one of them [21:34] afford* [21:35] okay, try learnyouahaskell.com look at the online version there are some code examples floating around [21:38] gremble: so you start by installing haskell-platform from the standard repositories? [21:39] Oh. Ya. You have to install a bunch of shit. It's not like C or C++ where everything is there already [21:39] hmm... [21:39] Need to get 56,5 MB of archives... [21:39] Are you internet stingy? :o [21:40] yep, only the 10th in the mobth and already running low [21:40] month* [21:41] gremble: thanks for the link [21:42] Ah. then you should probably not download whillynilly [21:45] gremble: added card on trello for later or for others https://trello.com/c/skXdujJP [21:49] * inetpro thinking [21:49] we should perhaps add another page on the wiki for Tips, Tricks & Links under our team [21:50] for reference purposes or to share experiences so others can get a nice kickstart [21:52] Yes, why not. It is not like you have to pay for wiki pages [21:53] Can also add the documentation project on the site I think [21:53] Have it there until it is large enough to be its own thing [21:53] exactly [21:54] I hope I get time to contribute to that. I would enjoy that [21:55] gremble: can you perhaps start it at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/TipsTricksAndLinks ? [21:59] or call it something else if you want [22:00] What do you want on this page? [22:00] not sure yet, to be honest... was just a thought [22:01] but I'm sure it could be useful and get a life of it's own [22:01] Its there [22:01] stefanor, davidc3 and voodoo-eu will be notified apparently [22:01] and me [22:01] :-) [22:02] Those names are the only ones that the website mentioned [22:02] Sorry :o [22:02] * inetpro just subscribed [22:03] where did the time go? [22:03] good night [22:03] Cheers