| ahoneybun | thanks valorie and mparillo | 00:24 |
|---|---|---|
| ahoneybun | darn thumb will not update | 00:34 |
| ahoneybun | fixed valorie | 00:39 |
| mparillo | On the Facebook Graphic on http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/community/ most of that area does not go to https://www.facebook.com/kubuntu.org?ref=stream That is, it is more like a snapshot of a real facebook page, but I wonder if many people will zoom down and click in the area, rather than watching the target change as they mouse around. | 01:10 |
| mparillo | Actually, it is kinda true for all the social media graphics, but for the rest, I think it is a little more obvious what is going on. | 01:11 |
| valorie | identi.ca, that's what I couldn't recall | 01:50 |
| valorie | thank you elky | 01:50 |
| valorie | ahoneybun: shouldn't that first link be ~/Documents/etc. | 01:51 |
| valorie | you have =Documents | 01:52 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: I always use Documents as I'm in my home directory but I believe your right | 06:35 |
| ahoneybun | but in dd your telling it where the iso is | 06:36 |
| ahoneybun | night/morning | 06:37 |
| valorie | yes I understand, but the actual path is /home/username/Documents/etc. | 06:40 |
| valorie | or shortform: ~/Documents | 06:41 |
| ovidiu-florin | Gooooood morning | 06:43 |
| ovidiu-florin | and it's so good that I've improved the header title http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/contribute-to-kubuntu/ | 06:44 |
| ovidiu-florin | it's prettyer now | 06:44 |
| valorie | that's beautiful! | 06:44 |
| ovidiu-florin | I believe Community, Contribute and Donate shoul be on the same page | 06:47 |
| ovidiu-florin | or a main page and subpages | 06:47 |
| ovidiu-florin | their content are very closely related and they should be agregated | 06:47 |
| ovidiu-florin | anyone else? | 06:48 |
| * ovidiu-florin is brainstorming while going through the feedback | 06:49 | |
| ovidiu-florin | yofel: ping | 06:50 |
| ovidiu-florin | by icons you mean navigation icons? https://trello.com/c/fTDbCsr9/28-feature-tour | 06:50 |
| kubotu_ | [Kubuntu Promotion :: Feedback :: Feature tour ++ ] | 06:50 |
| ovidiu-florin | valorie: could you help me with something? | 06:51 |
| ovidiu-florin | or anyone for that matter | 07:00 |
| ovidiu-florin | kubotu_: give me a beer | 07:00 |
| ovidiu-florin | kubotu_ hates me | 07:00 |
| ovidiu-florin | I need to go through all the feedback and create trello cards for each suggestion | 07:01 |
| ovidiu-florin | please help | 07:01 |
| valorie | kubotu_: give ovidiu-florin a beer | 07:11 |
| valorie | pfff | 07:11 |
| valorie | ovidiu-florin: "Community, Contribute and Donate shoul be on the same page" or subpages: yes | 07:11 |
| valorie | I agree | 07:11 |
| valorie | !beer | ovidiu-florin | 07:12 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about beer | 07:12 |
| valorie | pfff | 07:12 |
| Peace- | Riddell: | 08:03 |
| Peace- | libkf5people-data try to install that | 08:18 |
| Peace- | you will get an error | 08:18 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 08:53 |
| yofel | ovidiu-florin: yes | 09:02 |
| yofel | Peace-: known, he was looking at it | 09:03 |
| Peace- | i got other errors btw | 09:04 |
| Peace- | for exmaple | 09:04 |
| Peace- | sudo apt-get install plasma-widget* does errors but i guess it's normal they are the old plasma wigets i guess | 09:05 |
| BluesKaj | Howdy all | 10:59 |
| Peace- | +-.- | 11:52 |
| Peace- | qmlplugindump: could not exec '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qmlplugindump': No such file or directory | 11:52 |
| yofel | Peace-: you want qtdeclarative5-dev-tools | 11:55 |
| Peace- | yofel: thank you | 11:56 |
| Peace- | yofel: i can't get qtcreator working properly | 12:02 |
| Peace- | i tried everything | 12:02 |
| Peace- | file:///home/semvivid/wq/wq.qml:22 plugin cannot be loaded for module "org.kde.plasma.core" | 12:02 |
| Peace- | i added this to wq.qmlproject | 12:03 |
| Peace- | importPaths: [ "/usr/lib/kde4/imports" ] | 12:03 |
| yofel | kde4? | 12:04 |
| Peace- | plasma 5 | 12:04 |
| Peace- | ah | 12:04 |
| Peace- | shit | 12:04 |
| Peace- | mm but i have that folder | 12:05 |
| Peace- | mmm | 12:05 |
| yofel | well, we do still have kde4 apps around | 12:05 |
| yofel | Peace-: you probably want /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/qml/ ? | 12:07 |
| yofel | QML isn't my field of expertise I fear.. | 12:07 |
| Peace- | ok let's try | 12:08 |
| Peace- | mp | 12:11 |
| Peace- | no | 12:11 |
| Peace- | yofel: it seems it doesn't work no | 12:12 |
| Peace- | ah shit | 12:12 |
| yofel | #kde-devel would probably be more helpful at this point | 12:12 |
| Peace- | yofel: thank you | 12:13 |
| BluesKaj | odd , suddenly the cursor turns in to an I on the Konversation tabs, like a it does in the textbox, and makes it difficult to see | 14:13 |
| BluesKaj | ok , a reboot fixed the cursor problem | 14:36 |
| BluesKaj | no more kmix in the sytem tray, there's no widget either | 14:45 |
| jalo | Would it be possible to add https on www.hellotux.com delivery info page? | 14:59 |
| ahoneybun | ovidiu-florin: lots of good stuff here that could be one page for the new site https://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu/Contribute | 15:13 |
| ahoneybun | this is a great video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYrobaenFCc | 15:27 |
| === kubuntu is now known as Guest72465 | ||
| Guest72465 | tis I Sick_Rimmit | 15:48 |
| ovidiu-florin | kubotu_: give me a beer | 17:24 |
| soee | :) | 17:24 |
| Riddell | kubotu_: beer for ovidiu-florin | 17:27 |
| * Riddell slides a sangria down the table to ovidiu-florin | 17:27 | |
| ovidiu-florin | thank you Riddell | 17:28 |
| ovidiu-florin | kubotu_: doesn't seem to care about me | 17:28 |
| soee | Riddell: this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sddm/+bug/1407152 | 17:29 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1407152 in sddm (Ubuntu) "Can't log out from Plasma session with SDDM" [Critical,Triaged] | 17:29 |
| soee | i think it has been fixed somehow in todays update to kernel or systemd or something | 17:29 |
| ovidiu-florin | regarding sddm..... | 17:29 |
| soee | but we can logout now so this was related to sddm ? | 17:29 |
| ovidiu-florin | when resuming from standby I can see my wondws and after a second ot 2 I'm presented with the login prompt | 17:30 |
| ovidiu-florin | I can't report it since it doesn't always happen | 17:30 |
| soee | 2 users also confirme dtaht logut works for them now / under this bug report | 17:30 |
| ovidiu-florin | Riddell: do you know anything about aseigo? | 17:31 |
| ovidiu-florin | where is he? | 17:31 |
| ovidiu-florin | I've been trying to get in touch with him for a while | 17:32 |
| soee | ovidiu-florin: i thnk T-Shorts can be removed from main nav as it is in footer and its not as much important as othes | 17:33 |
| soee | *T-Shirts | 17:33 |
| ovidiu-florin | so have you voted? | 17:33 |
| soee | ovidiu-florin: my votes are there liek 3 days ? | 17:33 |
| ovidiu-florin | so that will be taken into consideration | 17:34 |
| * ovidiu-florin is talking formally | 17:34 | |
| ovidiu-florin | :P | 17:34 |
| ovidiu-florin | I'll fix the menus once I finish getting through all the feedback | 17:34 |
| ovidiu-florin | and creating trello cards | 17:34 |
| ovidiu-florin | this is what I asked the feedbakers to do..... | 17:35 |
| soee | ovidiu-florin: nice change with the page title on subpages / without bckground | 17:35 |
| ovidiu-florin | so I don't have to do it again | 17:35 |
| yofel | kubotu_: order beer for ovidiu-florin | 17:35 |
| * kubotu_ gives ovidiu-florin a nice frosty mug of beer. | 17:35 | |
| soee | though, why not using Oxygen font ? | 17:35 |
| ovidiu-florin | fianlly | 17:35 |
| yofel | ;) | 17:35 |
| ovidiu-florin | yofel: http://www.dragosasaftei.ro/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/fotografie-de-produs-cu-amintire-silva-dark-7.jpg | 17:37 |
| ovidiu-florin | this is what I'm having :D | 17:37 |
| yofel | *drool* | 17:37 |
| ovidiu-florin | romanian beer | 17:37 |
| yofel | thanks for making me envious ;P | 17:38 |
| ovidiu-florin | yofel: come visit | 17:38 |
| ovidiu-florin | you can have a dusin | 17:38 |
| Riddell | ovidiu-florin: he'll be at the pim sprint this weekend in france | 17:38 |
| ovidiu-florin | that's why he ignores his emails? | 17:39 |
| yofel | hardly the time for it, otherwise would love to | 17:39 |
| Riddell | ovidiu-florin: I've no idea about that | 17:39 |
| ovidiu-florin | Riddell: do you have Georg's email? | 17:39 |
| Riddell | ovidiu-florin: I do not | 17:39 |
| ovidiu-florin | awesome.... | 17:39 |
| soee | ovidiu-florin: also try setting for the page title text shadow: 1px 1px 5px rgb(60, 60, 60); | 17:39 |
| ovidiu-florin | soee: please make a trello card for that | 17:40 |
| ovidiu-florin | put it in ToDo | 17:40 |
| soee | i have no idea how to use this trello :D | 17:40 |
| Riddell | ScottK: remember bug 1400730 if you're in a useful mood | 17:40 |
| ubottu | bug 1400730 in libxext (Ubuntu Utopic) "libxext fills up .xsession-errors log files" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1400730 | 17:40 |
| ovidiu-florin | kubotu_: !trello soee | 17:40 |
| ovidiu-florin | yofel: how do I do this? ^ | 17:41 |
| soee | do i have to somehow join teh group or something ? | 17:41 |
| ovidiu-florin | pm me your email | 17:41 |
| yofel | ovidiu-florin: I'm clueless about the trello plugin I fear | 17:41 |
| soee | ovidiu-florin: my email ? | 17:41 |
| ovidiu-florin | in private please | 17:42 |
| ovidiu-florin | soee: you're in | 17:42 |
| ovidiu-florin | https://trello.com/b/3Fo1KXoN/kubuntu-promotion | 17:42 |
| ovidiu-florin | soee: you can add the card details in the card description | 17:44 |
| ovidiu-florin | just below the title | 17:44 |
| soee | ovidiu-florin: like i did now is fine ? | 17:45 |
| ovidiu-florin | it's ok | 17:45 |
| ovidiu-florin | soee: can you split Bart's email into trello cards in the feedback list? | 17:48 |
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| soee | what email ? | 17:49 |
| darthanubis | http://pasteboard.co/2utSJCgj.png | 17:50 |
| ovidiu-florin | soee: this one: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2015-April/009453.html | 17:50 |
| ovidiu-florin | darthanubis: ? | 17:51 |
| darthanubis | I have installed the restricted and extra packages, and mscorefonts-installer is installed | 17:51 |
| darthanubis | but I don't think these packages have installed the normal files it usually have | 17:52 |
| darthanubis | I even installed the ubuntu-restricted and extras | 17:52 |
| darthanubis | It seems these packages are not ready? And was wondering if anyone else was experiencing this? | 17:52 |
| soee | some user had also problems with ms fonts last days | 17:53 |
| soee | darthanubis: try reinstalling this ms- package | 17:53 |
| darthanubis | so I get this noticfication in the taskbar ever restart as a result | 17:54 |
| darthanubis | of course I already tried reinstalling the package. Butit does not actually pull the archive unpack it and install, like every year hence before | 17:54 |
| Riddell | frecel: I'm still happy to give you a packaging tutorial if you're interested | 17:57 |
| === Guest92550 is now known as ahoneybun | ||
| soee | ovidiu-florin: im not sure what exactly i shoudl put form that mail to dotos, its more like discussion atm | 18:05 |
| soee | sgclark: hows the work on frameworks going ? | 19:25 |
| sgclark | soee: oh | 19:25 |
| sgclark | right | 19:25 |
| sgclark | well | 19:25 |
| soee | :) | 19:25 |
| sgclark | done but the new frameowrk and a silly patch.. | 19:25 |
| sgclark | but distracted by kde ci.. | 19:26 |
| Riddell | sgclark: need me to help? | 19:26 |
| sgclark | Riddell: sure :) add a new repo for modemmanager-qt | 19:26 |
| sgclark | I can build it I think | 19:27 |
| sgclark | but I do need this evening off.. | 19:27 |
| Riddell | sgclark: hasn't sitter already packaged it as part of kubuntu ci? | 19:29 |
| sgclark | hmm | 19:29 |
| Riddell | sgclark: rest your weary fingertips :) | 19:29 |
| sgclark | maybe | 19:29 |
| Riddell | sgclark: what ppa are you using? | 19:29 |
| sgclark | proably just need kubuntu_archive branch | 19:30 |
| sgclark | umm | 19:30 |
| sgclark | next staging | 19:30 |
| sgclark | I think lol | 19:30 |
| sgclark | oh | 19:30 |
| sgclark | darn | 19:30 |
| sgclark | forgot the status sheet.. one sec | 19:30 |
| soee | why there are posts in some non-english language for example about KF 5.9 https://planetkde.org/ | 19:35 |
| soee | and there is no in english ? :) | 19:35 |
| soee | planekde doen't work with https://www.kde.org/announcements/kde-frameworks-5.9.0.php ? | 19:35 |
| sgclark | those are personal blogs no? | 19:35 |
| soee | oh i duuno | 19:35 |
| sgclark | yeah | 19:35 |
| sgclark | those are just links to personal blogs | 19:36 |
| sgclark | well | 19:36 |
| soee | for me planetkde is like nive place to get info about what is going on in kde world | 19:36 |
| sgclark | dev blogs | 19:36 |
| sgclark | yep | 19:36 |
| soee | would be goot ot have there also announcelments for officil webs | 19:36 |
| sgclark | but some are in languages I cannot read lol | 19:36 |
| soee | sgclark: thats what i talking about :) ome starnge langs | 19:36 |
| soee | well meybe not strange but i don not speakread them :) | 19:36 |
| sgclark | it looks much nicer than before though.. planetkde that is | 19:37 |
| sgclark | our site too :) | 19:37 |
| sgclark | much nicer | 19:37 |
| sgclark | just so busy I don't have time to read anymore :( | 19:37 |
| soee | you shoud one eye and one hand work, and second read :D | 19:38 |
| sgclark | :) | 19:38 |
| Riddell | soee: the trouble is that https://dot.kde.org/ needs more editors, it didn't get a frameworks 5.9 story | 19:38 |
| Riddell | volunteers welcome | 19:39 |
| === sgclark changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - 10 years of friendlyness | KF5 5.9 Status: http://goo.gl/gI3xd0 | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | Crash tracker : http://goo.gl/Cdynad | 20 bugs to fix http://goo.gl/Chh7uh | ||
| sgclark | Riddell: status ^ | 19:39 |
| Riddell | thanks sgclark | 19:39 |
| sgclark | no no, thank you! | 19:39 |
| sgclark | oh | 19:39 |
| sgclark | Riddell: I always get Can't retry with that retry script. What am I doing wrong :( | 19:40 |
| sgclark | I was up late.. hitting retry.. | 19:40 |
| sgclark | it looks like it is trying.. lists them with the arch.. but error | 19:41 |
| soee | Riddell: ill be more active and try to do more web related stuff after my personal projects are done | 19:49 |
| Riddell | sgclark: are you using --force ? I don't know why but it seems to need it | 19:51 |
| soee | i like to be informed and probably a lot of other users, thats why i often post some info on g+ liek now https://plus.google.com/110954078302330754910/posts/Sjg6kySPCYo | 19:51 |
| soee | :) | 19:51 |
| frecel | Riddell: I have a free afternoon now, we could go through the packaging process if you have some time | 19:52 |
| sgclark | Riddell: ahh no, that probably it | 19:53 |
| Riddell | frecel: make a launchpad account and add your ssh key and I'll set up a shared server | 19:54 |
| frecel | Already have one | 19:54 |
| Riddell | frecel: url? | 19:54 |
| frecel | Oh I might have to do the ssh thing again, I reinstalled for 15.04 | 19:55 |
| frecel | Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~frecel | 19:58 |
| Riddell | frecel: ssh ubuntu@ec2-54-159-224-203.compute-1.amazonaws.com | 20:00 |
| Riddell | type something when you get in | 20:01 |
| frecel | Riddell: give me a second, I have to mighrate my key from a different partition | 20:02 |
| frecel | Riddell: I had to change my key | 20:06 |
| Riddell | frecel: do I have the right one? | 20:07 |
| frecel | no | 20:07 |
| Riddell | frecel: have you updated launchpad? | 20:08 |
| frecel | Riddell: yes | 20:08 |
| Riddell | frecel: ssh ubuntu@ec2-54-159-224-203.compute-1.amazonaws.com now | 20:09 |
| frecel | hmm I'm still gettin permission denied | 20:10 |
| Riddell | frecel: try now, password foobar | 20:11 |
| frecel | Sorry about that, I don't use lp often. I'm in now | 20:13 |
| Riddell | frecel: great | 20:14 |
| Riddell | frecel: this is shared ec2 cloud server from amazon, we can both see and interact with the session | 20:15 |
| Riddell | frecel: shall we package something? | 20:15 |
| frecel | Riddell: sounds good | 20:15 |
| Riddell | frecel: I see a new version of digikam is out https://www.digikam.org/ | 20:15 |
| Riddell | frecel: by checking on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/digikam you can see we are at 4.7.0 | 20:16 |
| Riddell | frecel: first thing to check is do debian have a newer version | 20:16 |
| Riddell | which is at https://packages.debian.org/src:digikam | 20:16 |
| Riddell | frecel: do they? | 20:16 |
| frecel | Riddell: sid is at 4.4.4.0-1.1 | 20:17 |
| Riddell | sounds old, guess we need to do it outselves | 20:18 |
| Riddell | frecel: get the current package with apt-get source digikam | 20:18 |
| Riddell | frecel: actually make a directory called current and do that | 20:18 |
| Riddell | frecel: you've done this before so tell me if you know it all | 20:19 |
| Riddell | frecel: that downloaded the upstream "orig" tar and the packaging debian.tar | 20:19 |
| Riddell | and a .dsc with description metadata | 20:20 |
| frecel | it's been a while, so it's probably better if we cover it all | 20:20 |
| Riddell | frecel: look in digikam-4.7.0/debian for the packaging | 20:20 |
| Riddell | frecel: it's quite a complex app this so there's quite a lot | 20:22 |
| Riddell | but the .install files have the file in each of the .deb packages that will get made | 20:22 |
| Riddell | frecel: and the control file has the descriptions of the packages to make | 20:22 |
| Riddell | and the rules file is the complex bit, it's a makefile to build install and make the .debs | 20:23 |
| Riddell | looking at it there's some mess in there which is no longer needed, I think whoever packaged this last didn't tidy up | 20:23 |
| Riddell | frecel: look at the files and see if you understand them | 20:24 |
| Riddell | and ask me what you don't | 20:24 |
| Riddell | most of the process is done by debhelper a set of perl scripts to do the configure/build/install/generate package etc that's the dh_foo scripts | 20:26 |
| Riddell | and the makefile has those override_dh_foo lines to alter the defaults | 20:26 |
| frecel | I'm not an expert on make but most of this is fairly self explanatory | 20:27 |
| Riddell | nobody is, mostly you copy and paste from another project :) | 20:27 |
| Riddell | frecel: right let's do the new one | 20:27 |
| Riddell | frecel: cd out of current and wget the new one from http://download.kde.org/stable/digikam/ | 20:27 |
| frecel | Riddell: 4.9? | 20:28 |
| Riddell | yep | 20:29 |
| Riddell | frecel: rename it to digikam_4.9.0.orig.tar.bz2 | 20:30 |
| Riddell | and uncompress | 20:30 |
| Riddell | frecel: tip: you can just use tar xf with tar it'll work out the compression these days | 20:31 |
| Riddell | frecel: rename it to digikam_4.9.0.orig.tar.bz2 | 20:32 |
| frecel | Riddell: I've been uncompressing by right clicking on packages in dolphin for too long :D | 20:32 |
| Riddell | packaging is mostly a command line task I'm afraid :) | 20:33 |
| Riddell | frecel: digikam_4.9.0.orig.tar.bz2 note the underscre | 20:34 |
| Riddell | underscore | 20:34 |
| Riddell | deb packages are fussy about the source tar name | 20:34 |
| Riddell | frecel: inside the uncompressed directory copy over the debian/ directory from the current package | 20:36 |
| Riddell | frecel: cd into digikam-4.9.0/ | 20:38 |
| Riddell | and add a new changelog entry with dch -i | 20:38 |
| Riddell | frecel: this opens emacs as an editor, you know emacs right? | 20:39 |
| frecel | Riddell: I'm a vim guy | 20:39 |
| Riddell | bah! :) | 20:39 |
| Riddell | frecel: here you go | 20:39 |
| frecel | my pinky is untrained in pressing Ctrl all the time :D | 20:40 |
| Riddell | frecel: add a 1 line changelog, fix up version number and name/email | 20:40 |
| frecel | what is the ubuntu1/ubuntu2 part of the version number? | 20:42 |
| Riddell | 4:4.9.0-0ubuntu2 | 20:43 |
| Riddell | 4: is the epoch, it resets the version number incase you want to go lower than the one before | 20:43 |
| Riddell | 4.9.0 is upstream | 20:43 |
| Riddell | -0 is debian (0 because this isn't in debian yet) | 20:43 |
| Riddell | and ubuntu2 is the ubuntu version | 20:44 |
| Riddell | frecel: so set it to ubuntu1 as this is the first ubuntu version of 4.9.0 | 20:44 |
| frecel | Riddell: I have no iea how to insert RFC822 date format into vim :D | 20:47 |
| Riddell | frecel: well don't, the idea of dch is it gives you a template and does that for you | 20:48 |
| Riddell | frecel: remove what you've done | 20:49 |
| Riddell | frecel: the "digikam (4:4.7.0-0ubuntu2)" line is the start of a template for you to eidt | 20:49 |
| Riddell | edit | 20:49 |
| Riddell | frecel: lovely save it | 20:52 |
| Riddell | and quit | 20:52 |
| Riddell | frecel: let me tidy up some stuff | 20:53 |
| Riddell | frecel: right I just removed some old files from packages that I should have removed last time I updated it | 20:55 |
| Riddell | frecel: so let's see if it builds debuild -j2 will compile it | 20:55 |
| Riddell | or rather will tell us what it needs before it can compile it | 20:55 |
| Riddell | frecel: that's all the build-depends listed in debian/control | 20:55 |
| Riddell | frecel: /usr/lib/pbuilder/pbuilder-satisfydepends | 20:56 |
| Riddell | is the clumsy titled script to install them | 20:56 |
| frecel | Riddell: why did it abort? | 20:57 |
| Riddell | frecel: did you abort? | 20:57 |
| Riddell | bah | 20:57 |
| Riddell | frecel: well best install them by hand! | 20:58 |
| Riddell | sudo apt install .... | 20:58 |
| Riddell | copy and paste job | 20:58 |
| frecel | can't select it | 20:59 |
| frecel | Riddell: oh, you are just doing it by hand like that | 21:00 |
| Riddell | frecel: looks like mysql-server-core-5.5 is now mysql-server-core-5.6 | 21:01 |
| Riddell | frecel: edit that in debian/control | 21:01 |
| Riddell | and run the apt line again with it changed | 21:01 |
| Riddell | frecel: oh I see pbuilder-satisfydepends has confused apt now | 21:03 |
| Riddell | try and apt -f install | 21:03 |
| Riddell | now we're talking | 21:03 |
| Riddell | this digikam thing is a beast | 21:03 |
| frecel | Do you always package on a vps or is this just for me? | 21:03 |
| frecel | Restarting services will probably disconnect us | 21:04 |
| Riddell | I said no | 21:05 |
| Riddell | frecel: depends, for something like calligra it's so big my laptop would take an age so I start an expensive cloud server | 21:05 |
| Riddell | frecel: but it's best to build in a clean environment so I have a local chroot that recreates a clean install | 21:06 |
| Riddell | frecel: debuild -j2 and see what happens :) | 21:07 |
| Riddell | frecel: did you update debian/control for new myssql version? | 21:07 |
| frecel | no, | 21:08 |
| Riddell | frecel: it'll be up at the top | 21:08 |
| Riddell | somewhere under Build-Depends: | 21:09 |
| Riddell | I see it "mysql-server-core-5.5 | mysql-server-core" | 21:09 |
| Riddell | needs to be 5.6 now | 21:09 |
| Riddell | still needs an apt install | 21:10 |
| frecel | victory | 21:12 |
| Riddell | frecel: I looked at the build log to check the configure output, it seems all fine | 21:14 |
| Riddell | frecel: so aye, time for a cup of tea now | 21:14 |
| Riddell | frecel: once it's done we'll need to check if there's stuff not being build any more and new stuff being built and alter the .install files as needed | 21:14 |
| frecel | Riddell: do you have to use the version of ubuntu that you build a package for? | 21:14 |
| Riddell | frecel: no but it's obviously good if you can test the package yourself | 21:15 |
| Riddell | or ask someone else to test | 21:15 |
| Riddell | in this case we're building on an i386 so I can't install the .debs at the end anyway | 21:15 |
| Riddell | so we'll put it into a standing archive and get someone to test it them put it into backports (because we're frozen for the vivid release) | 21:16 |
| frecel | How are packages updated after the freeze? I've heard a lot of devs complain that it's hard to get their software uptated in the Ubuntu repos | 21:17 |
| Riddell | frecel: well they're not, that's what it means to freeze :) | 21:17 |
| frecel | Unless they can get it in debian and it happens to trickle down to Ubuntu just in time | 21:17 |
| Riddell | it won't trickle down while we're frozen | 21:17 |
| Riddell | but we can put it into backports | 21:18 |
| Riddell | which is another apt repository people can add | 21:18 |
| frecel | So the freeze lasts for the entire nine months? | 21:18 |
| Riddell | sure, once we release that's it | 21:18 |
| Riddell | which you can argue is a bit rubbish for developers and users | 21:19 |
| Riddell | but that's the way linux distros are set up | 21:19 |
| Riddell | canonical did have an extras repository for individual apps that want to be separate, dunno what happened to that | 21:19 |
| frecel | Riddell: I think there are plenty of applications that should be frozen, like everything that has anything to do with the display server for example | 21:20 |
| frecel | but I don't see why something like digikam shoudln't be updated if they have a new stable release in july | 21:20 |
| Riddell | other systems like android, windows, mac etc have a separation between operating system and apps but linux distros don't | 21:21 |
| Riddell | the trouble is if you update digikam what happens if digikam needs a new Qt version? | 21:21 |
| Riddell | then you have to update that too | 21:21 |
| Riddell | or you have to bundle it together and duplicate qt once for each application | 21:22 |
| frecel | fair enough | 21:22 |
| Riddell | linux has efficiency for not bundling the same library 100 times but it does mean apps can be older by default | 21:22 |
| soee | we should alway sprovide atest apps only for latest release | 21:26 |
| frecel | Riddell: so do you assign applications to packagers to take care of | 21:27 |
| frecel | ? | 21:27 |
| frecel | or do people just check versions and package what they feel like | 21:27 |
| Riddell | frecel: kde has three muckle releases, frameworks, plasma and applications | 21:27 |
| Riddell | and those get put into kubuntu ci for continuous builds | 21:28 |
| Riddell | and then someone takes on the tars and packages them | 21:28 |
| Riddell | as sgclark is doing now for frameworks | 21:28 |
| Riddell | we have scripts to do them because it's mostly repetative and there's lots of them | 21:28 |
| Riddell | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kf5-status/build_status_5.9.0_vivid.html | 21:28 |
| Riddell | frecel: a lot of other stuff gets updated in debian and we just sync it | 21:28 |
| Riddell | otherwise stuff gets packaged as people feel the need | 21:28 |
| Riddell | we have watches on a lot of packages for new releases http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/buildstatus/kubuntu-buildstatus.html | 21:29 |
| frecel | Riddell: so the entire thing depends mostly on how much applications can we package before the freeze | 21:35 |
| Riddell | frecel: yep | 21:37 |
| Riddell | but that's true of any software development | 21:37 |
| frecel | Riddell: for me as a user PPAs solve the problem entirely | 21:39 |
| frecel | There are a few applicaitons that I need to be at the very latest version, the rest of it I don't really care about | 21:40 |
| ahoneybun | kubotu_: give beer to frecel | 21:41 |
| frecel | ahoneybun: do you look at the changes to DocCheck? I'm trying to add something to it every day now | 21:42 |
| ahoneybun | frecel: let me check sorry | 21:42 |
| frecel | ahoneybun: I improved the dictionary quite a bit so for a lot of files it only returns names and email adresses | 21:43 |
| ahoneybun | getting some invalid syntax | 21:45 |
| Riddell | frecel: it's done! | 21:46 |
| ahoneybun | line 32 | 21:46 |
| Riddell | frecel: I'll need to leave soon to chat to my girlfriend, how are you doing for time? | 21:46 |
| frecel | I'm in UTC -7 timezone I got plenty of time | 21:47 |
| Riddell | frecel: so it's saying it can't install a file | 21:47 |
| Riddell | which means that file was in a previous release but now isn't | 21:47 |
| Riddell | dh_install: libkgeomap-data missing files (usr/share/locale/*/LC_MESSAGES/libkgeomap.mo), aborting | 21:48 |
| Riddell | frecel: so edit libkgeomap-data.install and remove the line that wants that file | 21:48 |
| Riddell | frecel: now run dh_install --list-missing | 21:50 |
| Riddell | and it'll try to install the files again | 21:50 |
| Riddell | cd .. i guess | 21:50 |
| frecel | woah | 21:51 |
| Riddell | lovely, it no longer has files listed in .installs that don't exist | 21:51 |
| Riddell | frecel: not it has files that make install has installed (into debian/tmp) but are not put anywhere by the .install files | 21:51 |
| Riddell | frecel: there should be a debian/not-install file where we list the files we know don't want to be installed | 21:52 |
| Riddell | check that | 21:52 |
| Riddell | frecel: the only ones that need added are the appstream .xml files | 21:54 |
| Riddell | work out which .install file to put them in | 21:54 |
| * Riddell calls girlfriend | 21:54 | |
| frecel | Riddell: what am I looking for? | 21:58 |
| frecel | ahoneybun: when you selected a folder did you end the path with / | 22:06 |
| frecel | ahoneybun: I just realized that it needs it and the code doesn't check for wheather it's there | 22:06 |
| Riddell | frecel: those appdata .xml files | 22:12 |
| frecel | Riddell: wouldn't it just go into digikam.install? | 22:17 |
| * Riddell back | 22:18 | |
| Riddell | frecel: the digikam one will yes | 22:18 |
| Riddell | the showfoto one will go in showfoto | 22:18 |
| Riddell | and the other ones, dunno we need to look and see what they go with | 22:18 |
| frecel | I think I need more coffee | 22:18 |
| * genii hand-grinds some good strong arabica coffee beans, fires up the french press, and gets to making a fresh mug for frecel | 22:19 | |
| Riddell | frecel: looks like those plugins are part of the main digikam.install package | 22:21 |
| Riddell | frecel: so put all the appdata files into digikam.install except showfoto which goes in showfoto.install | 22:21 |
| frecel | Riddell: done | 22:25 |
| Riddell | frecel: run debuild -nc to rerun the build (with no clear so it won't have to compile it all again) | 22:28 |
| soee | frecel: hows the packaging going ? :) | 22:31 |
| Riddell | once him once lintian stops running :) | 22:32 |
| frecel | soee: There is more to it than I ininitally thought | 22:32 |
| soee | frecel: i know, thats why i hadn't time so far to start with it | 22:33 |
| Riddell | frecel: looking good | 22:33 |
| Riddell | frecel: you should have .debs in the directory above | 22:33 |
| soee | but some day i have to, maybe than you can help me a bit :) | 22:33 |
| Riddell | frecel: install them with dpkg --install *deb | 22:34 |
| soee | frecel: mówisz po polsku ? (do you speak pl) ? | 22:34 |
| frecel | soee: Tak | 22:34 |
| soee | frecel: cool :) | 22:34 |
| frecel | ja się wyprowadziłem z polski jak miałem 17 lat, osiem lat minęło ale jeszcze pamiętam język ojczysty | 22:35 |
| soee | frecel: cool, would be easier maybe to communicate someday, anyway here we speak enaglish :) | 22:35 |
| Riddell | frecel: so it installs | 22:37 |
| Riddell | frecel: let's upload it to a ppa to build there and get people to test | 22:38 |
| Riddell | frecel: inside the source directory run debuild -S | 22:38 |
| Riddell | to make the source files | 22:38 |
| frecel | Riddell: it looks like it's missing your gpg keys | 22:40 |
| Riddell | frecel: change UNRELEASED to vivid and run debuild -S again | 22:42 |
| frecel | Riddell: whic file was it in again? | 22:43 |
| Riddell | frecel: debian/changelog | 22:43 |
| Riddell | frecel: I did a remote sign | 22:46 |
| Riddell | >debsign -r ubuntu@ec2-54-159-224-203.compute-1.amazonaws.com:mnt/digikam/digikam_4.9.0-0ubuntu1_source.changes | 22:46 |
| Riddell | frecel: you can now upload it to my ppa | 22:46 |
| Riddell | dput ppa:jr/ppa digikam_4.9.0-0ubuntu1_source.changes | 22:46 |
| Riddell | frecel: dput --unchecked I guess | 22:47 |
| frecel | Riddell: how long do you think it will take to build on launchpad? | 22:50 |
| Riddell | frecel: building now https://launchpad.net/~jr/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/7321261 | 22:52 |
| Riddell | so I guess it'll be done in 15 mins or so | 22:52 |
| Riddell | then you can fine someone using vivid to install and test | 22:52 |
| Riddell | then we can copy it over to kubuntu-ppa/backports | 22:52 |
| Riddell | and life will be good for digikam users | 22:52 |
| Riddell | frecel: any questions before I sleep? | 22:53 |
| Riddell | there's lots more to learn of course | 22:53 |
| Riddell | we keep the packaging in bzr and git for one thing | 22:53 |
| Riddell | and there's the fun of symbols files | 22:53 |
| frecel | Not really, I will try build one on my own now and probably spam you with questions tomorrow | 22:53 |
| Riddell | and the scripts for the big kde releases | 22:53 |
| Riddell | good idea | 22:53 |
| Riddell | do you want me to keep the ec2 up? | 22:54 |
| frecel | I have a vps that I have to reimage today I'll just do it there | 22:54 |
| Riddell | groovy | 22:55 |
| Riddell | shutting down | 22:55 |
| Riddell | frecel: oh your should join https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas-yellow-belts now :) | 22:55 |
| Riddell | added you :) | 22:56 |
| frecel | Thanks :D | 22:56 |
| frecel | as a side note is byobu just a reconfigured tmux? | 22:57 |
| Riddell | frecel: it's gnu screen | 23:00 |
| Riddell | with a nice profile | 23:00 |
| Riddell | sgclark: that should be frameworks all done up in the ppa now and plasma-nm | 23:03 |
| Riddell | the question now is what to do with it | 23:04 |
| Riddell | but I guess testing is welcomed | 23:04 |
| * Riddell sleeps | 23:04 | |
| yofel | Riddell: it's not screen but tmux these days | 23:10 |
| yofel | frecel: pretty much | 23:10 |
| yofel | with a couple extensions | 23:10 |
| frecel | yofel: screen has always been enough for me anyway, I just thought that bar on the bottom looks cool | 23:11 |
| sgclark | Riddell: thanks! | 23:36 |
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