[00:38] <ahoneybun> since we use systemd would this command work now? systemctl start smb.service
[00:39] <Unit193> Yes.
[00:41] <ahoneybun> cool thanks Unit193
[00:42] <Unit193> Sure.  There's several others that are quite handy now too.
[01:00] <kortum> where do i go for ubuntu help?
[01:01] <Erthe> #ubuntu ?
[01:02] <Unit193> /join #ubuntu
[01:27] <wldcordeiro> Has anyone installed Android Studio through Ubuntu make on Kubuntu? The launcher icon seems to be missing and I don't know where the launcher files are to edit it
[03:18] <TBotNik> All: Repeating: getting weird errors from mysql so documented at: http://pastebin.com/hgGpAbmK can anyone help?
[03:21] <TBotNik> All: Back to my problem: Getting weird errors from mysql. Started with no change to code, so documented at: http://pastebin.com/hgGpAbmK can anyone help?
[03:22] <valorie> TBotNik: this doesn't seem to be a kubuntu error -- maybe ask in a mysql or php chan?
[03:22] <valorie> please don't repeat yourself
[03:22] <valorie> if you don't know such chans, try alis
[03:22] <valorie> !alis
[03:22] <TBotNik> No response from mysql so asking around!
[03:22] <valorie> ok
[03:23] <valorie> depending on where people live, chans can be pretty dead at times
[03:23] <valorie> this is late-night on a Friday night in Europe, so pretty much just us nightowls or Americans around right now
[03:23]  * valorie goes off to watch TV for a bit
[03:37] <TBotNik> All: Repeating: getting weird errors from mysql so documented at: http://pastebin.com/hgGpAbmK can anyone help? Know this is not Kubuntu issue, but if you know the answer please join me on #mysql and expound!  Thanks!
[04:02] <pingu_> yo
[06:17] <Finetundra> hello everyone, I'm having random FPS jumps and drops. Any ideas?
[06:25] <Finetundra> only seems to affect fullscreen applications
[08:53] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:29] <krise> which file format should i format my usb stick to make startup disk
[09:31] <lordievader> krise: fat32 or extN where N is preferably 2.
[09:32] <krise> thanks
[09:39] <denza252> why ext2
[09:39] <denza252> why not 4
[09:39] <denza252> or ReiserFS
[09:40] <xennex81> i personally often try to stay away from ext4
[09:40] <MoonUnit`> journalling filesystem might be overkill for a startup disk
[09:40] <xennex81> it seems like an improvement the way SSDs are improvements
[09:40] <xennex81> i just stick to ext3 mostly
[09:41] <xennex81> hi mparillo
[09:41] <MoonUnit`> if i reinstall debating switching to xfs
[09:42] <xennex81> never looked at that, it's the default for some things?
[09:43] <MoonUnit`> fedora server 22 is making it the default
[09:43] <xennex81> i saw something of the kind in some tool, I thought it was cryptsetup, maybe it was ...
[09:44] <MoonUnit`> seems to be pretty speedy http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux-40-hdd&num=1
[09:44] <xennex81> oh, it was the container-creating tool of libpam-mount
[09:44] <xennex81> Filesystem to use for the encrypted filesystem. Defaults to xfs.
[09:45] <xennex81> linux has a habit of using many many small files
[09:45] <xennex81> i feel it is often like offloading some application-level technique onto the filesystem, out of laziness :p
[09:46] <xennex81> seriously, people are offloading something that should be done by the application (inside some container format) onto the filesystem
[09:48] <xennex81> in the sense that the filesystem often has all these tools available already
[09:49] <xennex81> you could even create e.g. linked trees using just files and branches in the filesystem (directories, etc..)
[09:49] <xennex81> :) :p
[09:56] <mparillo> hi xennex81. Good early morning (EDT) to all.
[09:57] <xennex81> still morning here too :P
[09:57] <xennex81> CET
[09:57] <lordievader> denza252: Because it was about a usb stick.
[09:59] <denza252> ext2 still has a bit of overhead does it not
[09:59] <denza252> why not just fat
[10:02] <lordievader> Hence the fat32 or ext2.
[10:09] <xennex81> but fat32 has this 4gb limit and that is pretty much a no-go for me.
[10:09] <xennex81> just saying. But sdcards are often formatted with lowlevel mechanics supporting it, in fat32
[10:59] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:06] <MoonUnit`> vivid release date getting close and still can't log out, reboot or shutdown properly.
[12:08] <BluesKaj> MoonUnit`, yes i had that problem until the last kernel upgrade
[12:10] <BluesKaj> which was this morning EDT or -5 GMT
[12:13] <MoonUnit`> from the systemd bug report sounded like we are waiting for a dbus update to fix it.
[12:13] <MoonUnit`> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1427672
[12:16] <lordievader> Hehe, such bugs are allways fun.
[12:16] <BluesKaj> I was using sudo halt and it worked
[12:18] <MoonUnit`> sudo poweroff is temperamental
[12:19] <soee> i can confirm what BluesKaj said
[12:19] <soee> logout works now
[12:20] <lordievader> halt/poweroff doesn't use dbus. KDE does.
[12:20] <soee> though we have thisannoying Starting vesion 219 text in the middle
[12:21] <BluesKaj> yes, soee what is that listing of all the usb ports etc , or so it seems
[12:21] <soee> BluesKaj: usb ports ?
[12:21] <BluesKaj> well , that's what it looks like
[12:23] <lordievader> "Starting version 219" is systemd.
[12:23] <soee> yeh, and it is not a bug as was told in bugreport :)
[12:23] <soee> is housl be hidden before final release
[12:24] <lordievader> I already found it a strange "bug". It is just telling you it is starting.
[12:24] <MoonUnit`> soee: this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/1398025
[12:24] <BluesKaj> this machine is a bit old , and it has several usb1.1 and one 2.0 port , and the list shows right after the sysd219
[12:31] <soee> MoonUnit`: the one valorie posted
[12:37] <denza252> oh right systemd is default by the next rhelees
[13:41] <hegemon8> Hi All
[13:41] <hegemon8> Hi BluesKaj
[13:42] <lordievader> o/
[13:43] <BluesKaj> hi hegemon8
[13:44] <hegemon8> lads, any of You have a safe(ish) way to install  jack on kubu 14.10 so after reboot, i'll have at least minor problems with apps requiring pulse or jack?
[13:44] <lordievader> Bugh, jack.
[13:44] <hegemon8> just some link that i wouldn't regret using..?:)
[13:45] <hegemon8> yep, some nice audio soft there, but remember troubles after installing jack long time ago :)
[13:45] <lordievader> That is precisely why I stay far away from jack.
[13:46] <hegemon8> i have fresh install, and just added my details here and there, looks nice and last thing i want to do is to reinstall :)
[13:46] <hegemon8> tell that to rosengarden... :) lordievader :)
[13:49] <BluesKaj> hegemon8, I'm no expert on jack, my experience with it tells me it's to be avoided unless absolutely necessary because my needs are rather simple
[13:50] <hegemon8> yes, You have similar stand to mine regarding jack BluesKaj :)
[13:51] <BluesKaj> then we have pulse to complicte matters even more
[13:51] <hegemon8> just was wondering if there is any safer way to try apps that require jack on kubu
[13:51] <hegemon8> haha
[13:51] <hegemon8> true :)
[13:52] <hegemon8> there is some pulse with jack integration, but from my previous experience (while back) - not trying that again :D
[13:54] <hegemon8> the worst part, if i find anything usefull i could use on the forums, its mostly quite outdated regarding kubuntu itself, and ubuntu ones not always match ...
[13:56] <hegemon8> so i'll ask that way: Is there any quite active kubuntu forum, that Yous may use?
[13:57] <BluesKaj> !forums
[14:00] <BluesKaj> i just feed a spdif and hdmi signal to my audio receiver for sound and video...this pc is merely a media server, like an old time audio/video component
[14:00] <hegemon8> i'm on kubuntuforums.net :) i've heard about google :) was asking any of You use one that You kinda like over the others :)
[14:00] <BluesKaj> can't say that have any fav forums
[14:01] <hegemon8> ah, worth asking anyway BluesKaj thx
[14:03] <BluesKaj> i'm reluctant to name any forums , since advice there can be mistaken and not corrected, more than here or other irc support chats
[14:04] <hegemon8> yep, thats why i asked for one :) not following any command listings blindly anymore :)
[14:05] <hegemon8> lesson learned :)
[14:05] <BluesKaj> yup :)
[14:06] <hegemon8> and most of the ppl when they get, or research answer don't close threads
[14:06] <hegemon8> and are gone from forum till next problem occures :)
[15:10] <xennex81> what is an easy way to sync two directories based on a date as a separator for dermining which side a change has occurred?
[15:11] <xennex81> in the sense that files newer than that date should be copied (from right to left) but files older than that date (that are deleted/missing on left) should be deleted on right
[15:12] <xennex81> of course it is easy enough to do a date-base (--from) copy from right to left wich only newer files being copied (or missing files)
[15:12] <BluesKaj> xennex81, probly a good question for ##linux
[15:12] <xennex81> s/wich/with/
[15:13] <xennex81> I'm asking here
[15:13] <xennex81> for now
[15:13] <BluesKaj> well, good luck then :-)
[15:14] <xennex81> you can answer if you want :P
[15:14] <lordievader> xennex81: rsync
[15:16] <BluesKaj> rsync is great for copying files , but that's all i use it for
[15:16] <xennex81> i think it would require an hour of troubleshooting to find the options I need....
[15:26] <xennex81> i think find's -mtime or -newer are good options
[17:09] <xennex81> lol I wrote a little script that will update with a one-way sync from a certain date onward
[17:09] <xennex81> using just find and cp and diff
[17:09] <xennex81> two hours later though
[17:10] <xennex81> albeit with food in my stomach
[17:10] <xennex81> :)
[17:13] <lordievader> Rsync's main purpose is, as the name suggests, to sync things.
[17:13] <lordievader> Quite a lovely tool.
[17:22] <kbdhelp> launch keys on ms 2000 not working. how can I get them to work?
[17:38] <MoonUnit`> kbdhelp: tried assigning them in shortcuts app?
[17:57] <xennex81> lordievader: yeah rsync is nice but I get so tired finding out the required parameters
[17:57] <xennex81> just looking at the options list and searching some of the web sees people using find -mtime as a way to specify a time for rsync
[17:58] <xennex81> I just perused the options list and coudln't find any
[17:58] <xennex81> I will just use FreeFileSync to sync back after I have done my script's sync
[18:10] <MoonUnit`> hmm phoronix article, google added encryption to ext4. could be interesting.
[18:59] <xennex81> there was this bug with Kubuntu 15.04 / plasma5 where SDDM wouldn't log you out while spawning many sddm-helper processes, right?
[19:30] <MoonUnit`> haven't heard of that one
[20:24] <lordievader> xennex81: There was a bug related to dbus. Dbus stopped to quickly.
[20:24] <lordievader> too*
[20:25] <xennex81> are we talking about the same thing?
[20:26] <petersaints> I just moved to KDE Plasma 5. I have now noticed one problem. I run Dropbox and its icon doesn't show up in the tray area. I have Googled for a solution, and while I did find some people complaining about the same issue, I have yet to find a clear solution. Could you please help me?
[20:26] <lordievader> xennex81: Well the dbus bug caused you not to be able to logout, so I suppose we do ;)
[20:26] <xennex81> okay https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sddm/+bug/1407152 @ lordievader
[20:27] <lordievader> petersaints: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/06/where-are-my-systray-icons/
[20:28] <lordievader> xennex81: Seems it is fixed...
[20:28] <xennex81> yeah i just read
[20:28] <xennex81> sorry about that ;-)
[20:28] <xennex81> haha
[20:28] <lordievader> Guess I should update my Vivid box.
[20:28] <petersaints> lordievader: Dropbox is Qt 5, isn't it?
[20:29] <MoonUnit`> didn't like wmsystemtray martin suggested, trayer seemed better.
[20:29] <xennex81> makes it beautiful for me to install vivid again from dvd @ lordievader
[20:29] <xennex81> but when is release?
[20:29] <denza252> welp
[20:29] <denza252> yakuake is borked
[20:30] <xennex81> april 23?
[20:30] <petersaints> I have all those packages installed on Vivid.
[20:30] <MoonUnit`> don't think dropbox is using qt5 yet
[20:31] <lordievader> petersaints: I remember dropbox being very troublesome in that. Can't remember if I fixed it or not.
[20:31] <MoonUnit`> had to use wmsystemtray/trayer to see the tray icon for it
[20:32] <petersaints> ok lordievader. MoonUnit: I'll try that
[20:34] <petersaints> MoonUnit`: It works with wmsystemtray, but having a window floating around is not a very good solution :P
[20:35] <MoonUnit`> yeah thats why i went with trayer, lots of options to change to suit.
[20:42] <marus> hello, my firefox crash and i have to restart my ubuntu 14.04, is this a known bug?
[20:42] <marus> kubuntu sorry
[20:45] <marus> or is there a way to know it crash?
[20:46] <lordievader> marus: If you want to know in full detail, strace. Otherwise running it from the Konsole might give a clue.
[20:47] <marus> (process:4896): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed
[20:47] <marus> lordievader: that's what it return when i run from terminal
[20:48] <marus> lordievader: i get it this time working without restart
[20:49] <lordievader> Hmm, I guess file a bug report.
[20:49] <marus> just with killing the prossess, but this bug happend often
[20:50] <marus> lordievader: any way thanks a lot, i know now how to fix without restarting
[21:25] <segaboy> hi folks.  having some trouble modyfying the breeze theme.
[21:25] <segaboy> I want to take the transparency away from the panel, but I can't.
[21:27] <soee> segaboy: i think it is global setting
[21:27] <soee> segaboy: checkDesktop Effects
[21:27] <soee> in System Settings
[21:28] <segaboy> I made a 1x1 png of the window background caolor, and tried to apply it as the backround of the panel in breeze theme settings, but it doesn't seem to take.
[21:28] <segaboy> color*
[21:29] <soee> i never modified them
[21:30] <soee> so cant help here much
[22:23] <xennex81> i think all those million join and leave messages are annoying, but that's just me.
[22:27] <soee> xennex81: you can configure konversation to ignore it (dont show)
[22:27] <soee> probably quaselle to
[22:27] <xennex81> right
[22:27] <soee> not sure what irc client you are using
[22:27] <xennex81> i was using quasell in kde, now I am in the webchat of freenode
[22:28] <xennex81> because it is too troublesome to get up the tunnels all the time... ;-)
[22:28] <soee> ah k :)
[22:29] <xennex81> the webchat can also hide it i see
[22:29] <xennex81> it's just that there is always some people you *want* to know about ;-)
[22:30] <xennex81> particularly the ones who chat a lot (or even ocassionally)
[22:30] <xennex81> there's gotta be some rule "hasn't spoken for an hour - don't show"
[22:31] <xennex81> "didn't speak last time - don't care ;-)"
[22:31] <xennex81> I used to play a mud in tinyfugue
[22:32] <xennex81> never knew it was nothing other than a mud client
[22:32] <xennex81> you could script it easily
[22:33] <xennex81> pattern-response patterns
[22:33] <xennex81> count stuff
[22:34] <xennex81> i'll shut up when the grown people start talking ;-) :P
[22:34] <xennex81> i think kde instant messenger should have a real name
[22:35] <xennex81> if it is to be included on the features page
[22:35] <xennex81> or in any case
[22:35] <xennex81> perhaps just something like Kaimo
[22:35] <xennex81> Deimo <-- Japanese sound to it
[22:36] <xennex81> I don't like all the "K....." names for applications in KDE, thankfully it is rather minimal these days
[22:36] <xennex81> Just Kate, and Konsole
[22:37] <xennex81> Gnome has a habit of calling things "Files"  or "... what was it called
[22:38] <xennex81> real names are better
[22:38] <xennex81> "  "Image viewer"
[22:38] <xennex81> Image viewer is not a name, it is a category
[22:39] <soee> Guenview it is
[22:39] <xennex81> yes much better still
[22:40] <xennex81> I was always annoyed by that in the past also, because once a program starts showing a weird indescriptive name in the interface, you can't find it in the process list
[22:43] <xennex81> how do you feel about the document folders being with a capital letter?
[22:44] <xennex81> Documents, Pictures, and so on
[22:45] <xennex81> I kind detest that, it is nice for the interface but not in the shell
[22:45] <xennex81> not when you need to type them
[22:47] <tuv0k> just rename it for yourself
[22:55] <Andludsch1866> welcome core......init see you......all!!!!!!!