/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/11/#ubuntu-za.txt

Kilosai!04:54
pieter2627morning all07:12
Kilosmorning all and sundry07:27
Kilossjoe trello changed some07:31
Kilostelkom gonna charge more for line rentals07:32
Kilosai!07:32
Kilosjust now mobile will be cheaper07:32
Kiloshaha gremble joined07:36
Kiloshi pieter2627  superfly  inetpro  07:36
pieter2627hi Kilos07:39
inetprogood mornings08:18
Kiloshi inetpro  08:19
Kilosinetpro  just look at this please08:41
Kiloshttp://www.snapdeal.com/product/tenda-300-mbps-3g4g-wireless/177691973708:41
Kilosmy supplier sells them for R29908:42
Kiloshow can there be such a price diffs08:42
inetproKilos: price difference?08:46
Kilossitye price Rs 229008:47
inetproand?08:47
Kiloslocal R29908:47
inetproyou think Rs = rands ?08:47
Kilosoh what is it08:47
inetproKilos: https://www.google.com/search?q=rs+2290+in+rands08:48
Kilosoh them rupoee things08:48
Kilosrupee08:48
inetproyay!08:49
Kilosty08:49
inetpronou verstaan hy :-)08:49
Kilosja08:49
Kiloswhat did you guys break after i went to bed08:53
inetprouh08:55
Kilosmoppie will be away for a while because of studies. i dunno if you saw that09:04
Kiloshi DalekSec  welcome to ubuntu-za09:08
DalekSecHowdy.09:08
Kilosoh nice to see you here 09:09
Kilosfrom ubuntu-irc right?09:09
inetprohi DalekSec09:10
DalekSecKilos: From everywhere.09:13
Kiloshaha09:14
inetproDalekSec: have you seen our new site?09:16
inetprohttps://ubuntu-za.org09:16
Kilosah locoteams too i see09:17
Kiloswhen you helped me you use the 193 nick09:17
DalekSecNow I have.  Like the https by default.  Interesting, the Ubuntu theme not on Drupal or Wordpress.09:18
inetprowas superfly's idea to use Nikola, and I like it09:20
inetprothere's not much that can beat a good looking static site09:21
* pieter2627 seconds that ^^^09:21
DalekSecKilos: Yeah that's my main.09:23
Kiloswell DalekSec  nice to have you join us09:24
inetproKilos: you have good memories09:24
Kilosyeah on irc memories are better09:24
DalekSecAll of them.09:25
Kilosespecially those that help me09:25
inetproDalekSec: Kilos also driving us to help africa rise again :-)09:26
KilosDalekSec  dont get shocked by some of our off topic chats09:26
Kiloswe are a happy family here09:26
inetprowe're still busy with the site but we're getting there09:26
DalekSecza.ubuntuforums.org supposed to redirect to a specific subforum?09:26
inetprooh, we used to have a guy like drubin who was very active there09:27
Kilosour forum is archived because we are mainly irc users09:27
inetprounfortunately he got assimilated by work or something 09:27
inetproDalekSec: do other people still use the forums even?09:28
DalekSecinetpro: Depends on what section, there's also Discourse.09:28
inetpropersonally I find many answers on askubuntu these days09:29
inetprowe have at least two new members who have started and are making an effort to help with squashing bugs as well09:32
inetproby joining the BugSquad09:32
inetpropieter2627: how are thing going there?09:33
inetprothings as well09:33
Kilosoctoquad  was away yesterday09:33
inetproai!09:33
Kilosthey are working together09:33
pieter2627inetpro: slow, but making progress... hopefully09:34
inetproKilos: so what are you up to today?09:35
Kilosfixing unity on my old pc09:36
inetprooh wow, wb plustwo09:36
Kiloswb plustwo  09:36
plustwooi! hi guys...09:36
plustwoo/09:36
inetproKilos: time to inform the man of all the things he has missed out on :-)09:37
plustwobeen long time away from ubuntu ZA and folks09:37
Kilosshame on you plustwo  09:37
plustwoi know09:37
Kiloslots of things you missed out on09:37
Kiloswe are shaking the continent09:38
plustwoeish!09:38
plustwothat sounds highly positive ...09:38
Kilosgo see https://trello.com/b/GKXXiBxU/ubuntu-south-africa-loco09:38
inetprowe've been going strong ever since Kilos and superfly went for official membership09:38
plustwocongradulations guys, ZA is on the world map through you guys09:39
inetprothey are our driving force09:40
Kiloswell they give you a sjambok to prob peeps with09:40
plustwoi salute them proudly, as in "proudly south afrcan"09:40
inetpros/prob/prod/09:40
plustwolol09:41
Kilossorry yeah prod09:41
* plustwo must catch up big time09:41
Kilosyip we need peeps active09:42
Kilosand we are pushing for more guys to get ubuntu membership09:42
inetproKilos: I see you noticed gremble adding his details last night as well09:43
Kilosyeah lol09:43
Kilosskelm09:43
Kiloswaits till i go to bed first09:43
inetproOupa, gremble is our local mathematician around here09:44
plustwoa badge we all need to be proud of09:44
plustwomathematician you said?09:44
plustwowho's Oupa?09:44
Kilosyou were09:44
inetprooops, I mean superfly09:44
plustwolol09:45
inetprodamn!!! I mean plustwo09:45
plustwoit's been a while... :/09:45
Kilosplustwo  you want to add you at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Members09:46
Kilosthats a new page to get everyone thats still active together09:47
plustwoKilos: that will be very kwl to be on the members list09:47
plustwoshould i add myself, or one of you guys will add me up?09:48
Kilosyou can09:48
Kilosinetpro  fixes what we break09:48
plustwook09:49
Kilosnote in comments next to him09:49
inetproai! 09:49
inetproKilos: gremble also started another new page last night09:50
inetprohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/TipsTricksAndLinks09:50
inetprowe still need to populate that with info but I think it could be useful for remembering stuff09:50
Kiloscool09:51
Kilosthere is also this under developement09:53
Kiloshttp://compunation.co.za/09:53
plustwoKilos: which team do you belong to on te membership?09:57
plustwos/te/the09:57
Kilosim lost plustwo  09:57
Kilosinetpro  fixit09:57
plustwoi see contributors team and development team09:58
plustwoor doesn't matter!09:58
Kiloswhere are you looking plustwo  09:59
plustwohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/NewMember09:59
Kiloscontributors10:00
Kilosi talk alot here10:00
plustwoahhhh. lol10:00
plustwois that the case?10:00
inetproplustwo: start by simply adding yourself on the page below at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Members10:00
plustwook10:00
inetprojust click edit10:00
plustwoand also start talking a lot?10:00
Kiloslol10:01
plustwothis is "on" man... lol10:01
inetproOfficial Ubuntu Membership means recognition of significant and sustained contribution to Ubuntu or the Ubuntu community10:01
plustwosorry, was just kidding10:01
inetproplustwo: Kilos has lots of work for you, no need to talk much :-)10:03
Kilosai!10:04
plustwoi'm up for the work. tnx inetpro10:04
plustwoso i'll be the cleaner around here?10:04
inetprohmm... 10:05
Kilosnono well train you up for the bugsquad10:05
inetproMaaz: coffee on10:05
* Maaz washes some mugs10:05
KilosMaaz  coffee please10:05
MaazKilos: Okay10:05
inetproyou see, no need for a cleaner10:05
Kiloslol10:05
inetprowe have Maaz to clean the cups already before making coffee10:05
plustwooh! bugsquad? interesnting... i'm up for the challenge10:06
Kilosthen just be here all the time10:06
inetproKilos: have you told him about our new site yet?10:07
Kilospieter2627  another bug guy for your squad10:07
plustwos/interesnting/interesting10:07
plustwook10:07
Kilosplustwo  https://ubuntu-za.org/10:07
plustwowhat criteria do i need? except being here always?10:08
inetproand the other one we're busy with as well10:08
Kiloslol knowlege10:08
inetproplustwo: see https://trello.com/b/GKXXiBxU/ubuntu-south-africa-loco10:08
Kilosis the other one live inetpro  ?10:08
inetproKilos: well, we're getting there10:09
inetprohttp://ubuntu-africa.snyman.info/10:09
MaazCoffee's ready for inetpro and Kilos!10:09
Kilosoh ya that one10:09
inetprothat's our QA site 10:09
KilosMaaz  gracias10:09
MaazKilos: ¡de nada!10:09
inetproand if you want to get involved you look at https://trello.com/c/tvAtfR4k10:09
inetproMaaz: dankie10:10
MaazGroot plesier inetpro my vriend10:10
plustwook, got te drift10:10
plustwos/te/the10:10
inetprowe even have mazal working on Fun on Ubuntu wiki10:12
inetproour local gamer10:12
plustwogamer?10:12
inetprooh, don't go there, you'll be lost forever10:12
Kilosya he likes playing games10:12
Kiloslol10:13
inetpro:-)10:13
inetprorather join pieter2627 and the BugSquad10:13
Kilosya10:13
Kilosgames are for when all the stuff on trello is moved to done10:14
plustwobugsquad sounds interesting...10:15
inetproyou'll be a local hero with that10:16
inetprosee https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad10:16
plustwogood directions you guys outlined here, i really missed a lot10:16
inetproenjoy10:16
* pieter2627 can't believe he has a squad while still trying to figure things out... sigh10:17
inetproplustwo: help him :-)10:17
pieter2627oh, nice to meet you plustwo 10:17
Kilosoctoquad  will help you all10:17
plustwook10:18
* inetpro needs to go10:18
inetprowbb10:18
Kiloslater inetpro  10:18
plustwogetting to grips10:18
plustwol8r inetpro10:18
plustwoKilos: you guys gave a lot info, i need to be on the members list then go through the bugsquad info10:20
Kilospieter2627  guide him please10:20
plustwohi pieter262710:21
Kilosdont you have a launchpad id?10:21
pieter2627Kilos aren't these the things you expect us to do while sleeping :P10:22
Kilosnono i just dont like you guys to sleep more than i do10:22
Kilosi get jealous10:23
pieter2627plustwo: do you see `Edit` on the top of the members list page (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Members)?10:23
pieter2627Kilos: haha10:23
plustwosorry pieter2627i was making coffee...10:32
pieter2627plustwo: no worries10:33
Kilosplustwo  have you joined here https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za/+members?active_batch=7510:34
plustwono yet Kilos10:35
plustwoshould i joint tere first?10:36
pieter2627order doesn't matter10:36
Kilosya10:37
plustwopieter2627: i don't see "Edit"10:38
plustwoi se "Create new empty page"10:39
pieter2627plustwo: Log in first (top centre)10:39
plustwook10:39
pieter2627Do you have an Ubuntu (One or openID) account?10:40
plustwoyes, just logged in with it10:41
pieter2627great, you will also use it on launchpad10:41
plustwoi'm logged in on lp as well10:42
plustwowaiting for the login to complete10:44
pieter2627great... yea it can take very long at times10:44
pieter2627oh Kilos, on the ubuntu ZA members wiki page - why does the official members' table have an empty row at the bottom?10:48
Kilosbecause i asked the pro to add one i think10:49
plustwopieter2627: i'm logged in10:49
Kilosbecause i sukkeled to add peeps10:49
Kilosoh the officail one10:49
pieter2627plustwo: you should be able to edit it now10:50
Kiloshmm... was sypposed to be at the bottom list10:50
Kilossupposed10:50
plustwopieter2627: yes, i ckicked on edit...10:50
plustwosould i make an entry at the bottom?10:51
Kilosya10:51
plustwook10:51
pieter2627Kilos: oh, ok10:52
Kilosits easier to add when there is already an extra line added10:52
Kilosfor me anyway10:53
pieter2627Kilos: i just copied the last one and edited it10:53
Kilosclever10:53
plustwook, i think i'm done editting. 11:01
Kilosthen tick save at the top i think11:02
plustwosave changes11:02
Kilosya11:02
plustwook, i just did a preview. something i need to fix before saving11:03
Kilosok11:03
plustwook, that's completed.11:10
pieter2627plustwo: then just go to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za and click join team11:11
pieter2627plustwo: never mind, you are already there11:12
plustwoalready joined the team...11:12
plustwo:)11:12
pieter2627haha, yea sorry11:12
Kiloslol11:12
plustwotnx pieter262711:12
pieter2627np11:13
plustwoshould i subscribe to the bug squad mailing list or not?11:15
Kilosi would if im gonna join the squad11:16
pieter2627i have not done so yet, still trying to figure things out11:16
plustwook11:16
plustwobut then i can join the #ubuntu-bugs. as i'm going throug the bug squad wiki...11:17
Kilosthats the irc channel actually getting into the squad is more work11:35
Kilosonly pieter2627  and octoquad  know that here11:35
plustwook, so how do you select which bugs to work on and where?11:37
Kilosthey will have to help you plustwo  im dom with that11:38
plustwonp, i get you11:39
pieter2627plustwo: as i understand, the best it is look for bugs on packages/programs that you use and would want to help in, and then just pick a bug11:40
plustwook, i understand. but first one must understand the ubuntu packaging and also set up the working environment to work in.11:42
Kiloshi Tonberry  11:42
Tonberryhi11:42
pieter2627plustwo: yeah, i'm learning packaging with my current first bug, octoquad knows about the environment (and possibly packaging)11:44
pieter2627But i guess it is a case of learning as you go11:44
inetprowhere's tumbleweed these days11:45
inetpro?11:45
inetprowb Tonberry11:45
Tonberryhi11:45
plustwoand how do you get the fix to upstream? via MOTU or something? for approval11:46
inetproand confluency11:46
pieter2627plustwo: ubuntu devs will push it upstream as i understand11:47
inetproKilos: time for you use your sjambok and bring back those guys to help us here11:47
Kilosai! they joined the lurksquad11:47
pieter2627plustwo: you might want to read http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/09/%23ubuntu-za.html#t19:3911:47
Kilosinetpro  they too big for me11:48
pieter2627it is the first part we did to fix a bug11:48
inetproplustwo: but some bzr knowledge can't hurt you11:49
inetprounless you have played with that already11:49
plustwoinetpro: nope.11:49
Kilostumbles is still in last night11:49
inetproplay around with it with the websites we're busy with11:50
plustwoyou know what, i remember playing around and some help from dholbach ...11:54
Kilosgood11:54
plustwoinetpro: i remember i had te bzr setup as well11:54
Kilosshake that memory11:54
plustwopulling and pushing11:54
plustwohence i was able to create a packange on lp whilst i was learning. :)11:55
plustwowell, since i see some energy on ubuntu-za i might as well get my feet wet agin on the bugs. :)11:56
Kiloslol good lad11:56
plustwos/agin/again11:56
plustwoya. thanks guys for allowing me to help on that one11:57
* plustwo will have some fun squashing some bugs11:57
Kilosonly im not allowed to help, because i break things11:57
plustwoooooops! not good... :)11:58
Kiloslol11:58
pieter2627Kilos: sometimes breaking broken things fixes them11:58
plustwook, i need to dug up old documentation i had on this11:58
plustwoyep11:58
Kilosoi not the way i break them then we get showered with ai! all day11:59
pieter2627rofl12:00
plustwopieter2627: i need to bring myself up to speed on this. 12:02
pieter2627plustwo: i'm glad someone else also knows this cause i'm struggling patching this thing12:04
* pieter2627 sees that he will never be able to use his ai's here because he will only confuse Kilos12:05
Kiloslol12:05
plustwoi'm currently looking at hundredpapercuts, i see your progress as well. good job12:06
pieter2627thanks12:06
inetprohmm...12:14
inetproKilos: sorry for being harsh on you12:14
Kilosi forgive you inetpro  12:14
inetproKilos: you're doing a great job anyway12:15
Kilosty sir12:15
inetpro04/11 11:04:54 <Kilos> moppie will be away for a while because of studies. i dunno if you saw that12:24
inetproKilos: where did you see that?12:25
Kilosjust before he left night before last i think12:25
inetprooh12:25
Kilosblock studies he called it12:25
inetprooh well, I think he was done with what he needed to do12:26
Kilosyay12:26
Kilosour site does llok good12:26
Kiloslook12:26
inetprohopefully superfly will just approve his changes and deploy asap12:26
Kiloslets hope12:27
Kiloshttps is more expensive than http i see12:27
inetpropieter2627: have you done your edits from trunk yet?12:27
inetproKilos: don't worry about that12:28
Kiloseish12:28
inetproone day we'll go do some begging at canonical if we run out of cash12:29
Kiloslol i want a buntu fone12:29
Kilosnot money12:29
inetproyou can buy one now Kilos12:30
Kiloseish12:30
* Kilos slaps inetpro12:30
inetproai!12:30
Kiloshaha12:30
Kilosgently so it didnt hurt12:30
pieter2627inetpro: i did before moppies last commit - have a pending merge tip to get it into my branch?12:32
inetprohmm... let me go look where we stand now12:33
inetproNo revisions or tags to pull.                                                                                             12:35
inetpropieter2627: mopkop's changes are now merged into trunk12:36
inetprolast comment from superfly, "Once Ashton's stuff has been merged, you'll need to merge from trunk into your branch, check if there are any changes, push up anything that needs to be pushed, and then re-submit your proposal if necessary."12:37
inetpropieter2627: it will be nice if we can get your changes applied as well before deploying to the QA site12:39
pieter2627inetpro: i get the `pending merge tips` after merging from trunk12:40
pieter2627i ran `bzr merge ../trunk`12:40
inetpropieter2627: can you pastebin the full output?12:42
inetproin fact let me actually try as well12:42
inetpro2 conflicts encountered12:42
pieter2627inetpro: http://bin.snyman.info/5atxr12:45
pieter2627inetpro: i also have a new branch made from trunk https://code.launchpad.net/~pieter2627/ubuntu-africa/jumbotron-edits12:45
inetproahh... let me try that and see12:48
inetpropieter2627: something is missing there12:49
inetprohmm... that won't work12:50
inetpropieter2627: have you updated your trunk?12:50
pieter2627yes trunk at rev412:50
inetprothat's strange12:51
pieter2627rev4 is the pending merge tip in my branch12:51
inetpropieter2627: go to trunk and do nikola build && nikola serve12:51
inetproyou will clearly see the beautiful new home page at http://localhost:8000/12:52
pieter2627yip i do12:52
inetproon your branch those images are gone12:52
inetprounless I missed something12:53
inetpropieter2627: the only file in your the pages folder is index.rst12:55
inetproyour pages folder12:55
pieter2627where can i upload a screenshot12:56
pieter2627*?12:56
Kilospicpaste.com12:56
inetproor http://pasteboard.co/12:57
Kilosya or that12:57
Kilosthats a drag drop one12:57
pieter2627http://pasteboard.co/2uaMME3m.png12:58
pieter2627my `bzr qlog`12:59
inetprolooks like you did that before it was merged13:00
pieter2627http://pasteboard.co/2uaZ9OJE.png13:01
pieter2627before merging13:01
inetprothis is what I see http://pasteboard.co/2ub6r55U.png13:03
pieter2627http://pasteboard.co/2ub7chV5.png13:03
pieter2627better after merge13:03
inetprowhat do you see when going cd ../trunk && bzr status13:05
pieter2627blank returned13:06
inetprook, so that is fine13:06
inetpropieter2627: that last one of yours, did you push it?13:07
pieter2627it is the same one that you took screenshot of13:09
pieter2627you mean push after merge?13:10
inetproyes13:10
inetprocommit and push13:10
pieter2627think so, let me repush13:10
pieter2627if i commit then i have to give a commit msg13:11
pieter2627will give screenshot of it then13:11
inetproyou can use bzr qcommit13:11
inetpromakes life easier13:11
Kilosyou getting good at bzr hey inetpro  13:13
Kilosbugsquad next13:13
inetprohehe13:13
pieter2627http://pasteboard.co/2ubKnRcR.png13:13
pieter2627it does not look right13:13
inetprolooks right to me13:14
inetprocan you push that?13:14
pieter2627but the `added pages` is on top of mine, shouldn't mine be on top of it?13:15
inetpronope13:16
pieter2627hell, bzr is weird13:16
inetpro:-)13:16
inetproI think he made changes after you did13:16
inetprosome of them at least13:17
inetprowe'll ask superfly, whether that is right13:17
* inetpro worries more about the end result13:17
pieter2627pushed to https://code.launchpad.net/~pieter2627/ubuntu-africa/jumbotron-edits13:17
* inetpro pulling13:18
pieter2627and the `added pages` is still there13:18
inetpro\0/13:19
inetpronow go do the merge proposal thingy13:20
inetprothis will be interesting13:20
inetprothe log tree makes sense to me13:20
inetproremember Added pages links back to rev313:21
inetproit's different to git13:22
pieter2627ok, proposed13:22
* pieter2627 is still finding this weird13:23
Kilosthats why its so good because its so different13:24
inetprosuperfly: your turn13:24
Kilosmore bzr knowlege will help with bugs i think13:24
inetproapproved from my side13:24
Kilosnow we wait in anticipation13:25
pieter2627Kilos: yes it will help13:25
inetpropieter2627: oh, now you can go remove the other one13:26
pieter2627should i provide a link to the new one in comments before removing?13:27
inetproI would simply delete it13:28
inetprono need to keep it there13:28
Kilossome good news13:29
Kilosstormers won and cheetahs won13:29
pieter2627inetpro: what does your branch look like after merging from trunk?13:30
inetpropieter2627: I haven't merged it to trunk yet, just waiting for superfly to approve as well13:30
pieter2627from trunk not to trunk13:31
pieter2627your bzr qlog13:31
inetproif I do a bzr qlog on your branch I see exactly the same as in your screenshot13:31
pieter2627haha, for your build-instructions branch13:32
inetpro8, 3.1.1, 2.1.2, 7, 6, 5, 3, 2.1.1, 2, 113:33
inetpropieter2627: oh for my build-instructions I see: 5, 4, 2.1.2, 3, 2.1.1, 2, 113:35
inetprothat's where it will become interesting13:35
inetprowhen the merge is done13:35
pieter2627sjoe, yeah it will be interesting13:36
inetproactually there's a 1.1.1 between 1 and 213:39
Kilossjoe you guys getting tied in knots now13:40
inetpropieter2627: the log is ordered by date and time13:42
pieter2627oh ok13:43
inetpropieter2627: thanks for your efforts 13:48
Kilosty pieter2627  and inetpro  13:48
pieter2627np13:50
inetproUbuntu MATE forges exciting partnership with Entroware https://www.entroware.com/store/ubuntu-mate-announcement13:51
inetproKilos: Entroware is a start up geared towards providing a complete "out of the box" Linux experience13:54
Kilosai!13:54
Kilosjust when im getting used to kde13:54
inetproand then we also have this one: Dell loads Ubuntu Linux onto its best thin-and-light laptop http://www.pcworld.com/article/2908508/dell-loads-ubuntu-linux-onto-its-best-thin-and-light-laptop.html13:55
inetproKilos: it's not about the distro13:55
Kilosno man i enjoyed amte on unity13:55
Kilosmate13:55
inetproit's about more and more hardware companies doing the right thing13:55
Kilosyes i agree13:56
inetprobuilding hardware with linux from the start13:56
Kilosthe africa site has quite a bit about dell lappy's13:56
Kilosubuntu of course13:56
inetproeven BQ, http://www.bq.com/gb/right-to-technology13:56
inetproplustwo: dit you see all that ^^ ?13:57
inetproexciting times13:57
plustwo:) yep13:57
plustwoMATE desktop is kwl13:58
Kilosya i enjoyed it till i got used to kde14:00
KilosUbuntu MATE is the perfect distribution for easing the transition 14:08
Kilosbetween Microsoft Windows or Mac OS and Linux.14:08
Kilosstrange, ian prefered kde from the start14:09
inetproKilos: btw, did you install xul-ext-lightning with thunderbird?14:13
inetproCalendar Extension for Thunderbird14:13
Kilossigh tell me how14:13
inetproaptitude14:13
Kilosoh not a plugin14:14
Kilosty14:14
inetproyes, it's a plugin but even plugins can be installed from the repository14:14
inetproat least many of them14:14
inetproactually not a plugin but a addon14:14
Kilosah ty installing14:15
Kilosi need something to remind me of important dates14:15
inetprouse your phone for that14:16
Kilosno they always have flat batteries14:17
inetproai!14:17
Kiloslol14:17
magespawngood afternoon14:17
Kiloshi magespawn  14:17
Kilosanother one joined the bug team14:17
magespawncool beans14:18
Kilosplustwo  returned and seems excited at the new life here14:18
magespawnthat is good14:19
plustwohi magespawn14:19
inetproKilos: is it installed yet?14:19
magespawnhi plustwo inetpro 14:20
Kilosyes14:20
inetprowb magespawn14:20
Kilosoh my14:20
Kilosmore to look at14:20
magespawnoh my?14:20
Kilosrtfs is gonna kill me yet14:21
inetpro:-)14:21
Kilosjust installed lightning on thuenderbird magespawn  14:21
Kilosthunderbird14:21
inetproKilos: do you use google calendar?14:21
Kilosat last the pro has me off evo14:21
Kilosi use the calender kde shows me in the bottom panel14:22
Kilosmust i get that too14:22
inetprohmm... yeah that is useful, but can't make appointments there, can you?14:22
inetproKilos: no, but if you are it can be useful to integrate with lightning in thunderbird14:23
Kilosi just want birthday reminders14:23
Kilosoh my14:23
inetprook, get to know lightning first then we can talk integration another day14:24
inetprouseful if you want the same calendar events across multiple devices14:25
Kilossjoe more thinking14:25
magespawni thought lightening would simply take the calender from the google address that you use with thunderbird, you might have to link it seperately14:25
inetproyou just need yet another addon for that14:25
inetpro Provider for Google Calendar https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/provider-for-google-calendar/14:25
inetprobut it's pointless if you don't use google calendar14:26
Kilosok how to get google calender?14:29
Kilosdont make me google14:29
Kilosim tired, you guys worked too hard today14:29
Kilosive downloaded it14:29
Kiloshttps://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/provider-for-google-calendar/14:30
Kilosthat it14:30
inetproKilos: https://www.google.com/calendar14:30
magespawnKilos: if you have gmail google calender comes with it but you need to use it for this to make sense14:30
Kilosnow gotta work out how to get TB to find it14:30
Kilosof course i have gmail14:31
Kilos4 of them i think14:31
Kiloseish that play store14:32
Kiloslike the droid things14:32
magespawnyou have that xperia?14:32
Kilosya i hate it14:33
magespawnyou can download the app for google calender for that14:34
Kilosonly any good for whatsapp14:34
inetproKilos: it doesn't come with a calendar?14:34
Kilosi dont even want to look at that thing unless i must send a whatsapp14:35
Kilosi do my stuff here on the pc14:35
Kilosthere i have the google calender in thunderbird now14:36
Kilossigh14:36
magespawnand now?14:37
Kilosi dunno14:37
Kilospro wanted it there so its there14:37
Kiloshmm... 32g flash for R13914:41
Kilos120g ssd for R89914:42
Kilosmushkin products14:43
Kilossharks lions about to start inetpro  15:04
inetprooh yhanks Kilos15:05
Kilosyw15:05
magespawnhome time, later all15:55
plustwook, a lot i've learned today. going to do some home work. till tomorrow, keep well16:44
Kiloscool plustwo  16:45
Kiloskeep it up16:45
plustwowill do. cheers16:46
Kiloswb magespawn  16:47
magespawnty16:47
Kilosai!17:00
Kiloshi Tonberry  17:00
magespawnand now Kilos?17:07
Kilossharks lost to lions17:07
Kiloslooks like neelsie is drifting away too17:08
Kilosneed to prod him with the sjambok i think17:08
magespawnpeople commit what they can when they can, maybe he is just busy elsewhere17:09
Kilosya new baby and work17:10
Kilosnot much sleep time17:10
inetproTonberry: you haven't joined ubuntu-za on LP have you?17:28
inetprojust go to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za and join 17:29
inetproKilos: I just installed thunderbird here again earlier today17:30
inetprotried the IMAP option for a change17:31
Kilosagain?17:31
Kiloseish17:31
inetprowell, I haven't used it here for a lobg time17:31
inetprolong*17:31
Kiloswhat have you used17:31
inetprojust used the web interface17:31
inetprogmail17:31
Kilosoh17:31
Kilosimap pulls down too much17:31
Kilosi got 5g of mails at gmail17:32
inetprothought since you're now on thunderbird I should have it loaded here as well17:32
Kiloshahaha ty17:32
Kilosbut pop is my choice17:32
inetproyeah IMAP really killing me17:33
inetprostill downloading mails for like two hours now17:33
pieter2627POP pulls down emails not IMAP17:34
Kilosya it doesnt stop then you have to delete everything you dont want on pc17:34
pieter2627one can set IMAP to only get the headers17:34
Kilospop pulls down only new mails17:34
pieter2627thats correct17:34
Kilosimap pulls them all17:35
Kilosand only then new ones17:35
pieter2627but doesn't it also remove it from the mail server17:35
Kilos?17:35
pieter2627POP i mean17:35
Kilosno17:35
Kilosyou set it to fetch but leave in server too17:36
pieter2627then it stays unread on the server?17:36
Kilosbut i do agree it seems to be much faster than evo17:36
Kilosi dunno pieter2627  17:37
inetpropieter2627: I don't see the option to download only headers with IMAP, know about it on POP17:37
Kilosmaybe it leaves them as read17:37
inetprobut I found some Advanced options now 17:37
inetprounder Accounts | Synchronisation & Storage17:38
inetproset to not download messages larger than 50KB17:38
Kilosya but not many mails are that size anyway 17:39
Kilosnow i keep like 10 important mails here and delete the rest17:39
Kilosknowing they are still safe on the server17:40
inetproKilos: btw, have you changed your default layout?17:41
Kilosai! too what17:42
Kilosoh ya17:42
inetprowide view is much more readable17:42
Kilosall in one inbox supposed to e17:42
Kilosbe17:42
inetprostep 1: Enable the Menu17:43
inetprostep 2: View | Layout | Wide View17:43
Kilosi see the different accounts on the left and the rest is the mails17:43
inetproKilos: right-click in the open space at the top 17:44
Kilosmy view doesnt show layout17:44
inetproyou should see a popup with Menu Bar, Mail Toolbar and Customise17:45
inetproor Customize...17:46
Kilosi right clicke in an open space and the left panel disappeared17:46
Kilosi gotta go eat17:46
Kiloswbb17:46
inetprook17:46
Kilosit opened another tab for that17:47
Kilosnow got 2 tabs at the top like a browser17:48
Kiloscalender also adds one more tab17:48
* pieter2627 seems to be remembering things that don't exist, probably due to taking part from a baised view and having overtaxed his brain for the day17:48
Kiloslol17:49
inetproai!17:49
inetproKilos: go eat!17:49
Kiloshave you fixed 10 bugs yet today?17:49
Kilosoh ya17:49
inetproenjoy the meal!17:49
inetpro:-)17:49
Kilospan brood met uie in17:50
pieter2627nope, still struggling with the same one, but moving forward17:50
Kilosgood17:50
inetproyay!17:54
Kiloswhat?17:54
inetproI think my IMAP downloads are finally done17:54
Kiloslol17:54
inetprotook a damn long time and even taxing the CPU during the whole period17:55
Kiloswhew17:55
inetprolike a steady 20% utilisation17:55
Kiloswow17:55
inetprothings like that just bug me to no end17:56
Kilosya pop much better17:56
inetprobut I'll give it the benefit for some time17:57
Kilosnow what you gonna do with all them mails in your inbox17:57
inetpromy inbox is always empty17:57
Kilosoh you put everything in other folders17:58
inetproapart from one or two outstanding mails that need attention17:58
inetprono17:58
inetprojust read, take action or take note and delete17:58
Kilosdid it not clean out the server too17:58
Kilosya i do that17:59
inetpromails stay available unde All Mail17:59
Kiloseish thats extra stuff your pc dont need to carry17:59
Kilosand makes backups that much slower18:00
inetprowith mails available on gmail I don't have to worry about local backups18:01
inetproat least not for mail18:01
Kilosoh dont you rsync home anymore18:01
inetpronope18:02
inetprojust my data folder with photos and other stuffs18:02
inetproMaaz: coffee on18:26
* Maaz starts grinding coffee18:26
KilosMaaz  coffee please18:26
MaazKilos: Yessir18:26
KilosMaaz  rusks please18:26
Maazbehind the calender on top of the fridge, but dont tell everyone Kilos18:26
magespawnMaaz coffee please18:27
Maazmagespawn: Yessir18:27
magespawnMaaz large please18:29
Maazmagespawn: Huh?18:29
magespawnMaaz large 18:29
MaazIn a beer mug just for you magespawn18:29
Kiloslol18:29
magespawnty Maaz18:29
MaazCoffee's ready for inetpro, Kilos and magespawn!18:30
inetproMaaz: thanks18:30
Maazinetpro: No problem18:30
KilosMaaz  danke18:30
MaazBitteschön18:30
magespawnMaaz botsnack18:31
MaazYAY someone cares about me too!18:31
inetpromagespawn: +!18:33
inetpro+1 as well18:33
inetpropoor dude hasn't had a botsnack for a long time18:34
Kilosya shame18:34
Kiloswe get busy and the bot suffers18:34
inetproai!18:59
Kiloswhat?18:59
inetprotoo quiet here18:59
* inetpro getting impatient19:00
Kiloslol19:00
Kilosbulls just beat reds19:00
Kilosyou also wanna swank inetpro  19:01
inetproswank?19:01
Kilosbrag19:02
Kilosg+ tweet place etc19:02
Kilosmnet went to nashville19:03
Kilosweird we dont get motm19:04
Kilosoops19:04
Kilosthat was for tara19:07
Kilossorry19:07
inetprohmm... I thoight she was asleep and you could focus on working now :-)19:09
Kilosthey too nosy to see19:09
Kilosoh and also neelsie on pidgin19:11
Kiloshe happy his team won19:11
inetproai!19:11
Kiloshaha19:11
Kilosshame he has had his mom visiting too19:12
inetpropoor dude19:12
inetproall part of the fun19:12
Kilosyip19:12
inetprosuperfly: time to do some work... kids should be in bed now :-)19:13
Kiloslol19:14
Kilosshame man19:14
Kiloshe never gets any rest19:14
Kiloswhen he dies he will sleep like the dead19:15
inetprohe can rest between midnight and 4 am19:15
Kilosai!19:15
Kilosyou a hard task master19:16
inetprolol19:16
inetprono man, I'm just joking19:16
Kilosyaya19:16
Kilosim sure he even codes in his sleep19:17
inetproKilos: so let's look, what else can we do now?19:17
inetprooja, thunderbird19:17
Kilosmine works stop adding more19:17
inetproKilos: Menu | Preferences | Layout | Wide View19:19
inetprohave you tried that?19:19
Kilosi dont see layout19:19
inetprolook19:19
Kilosok19:19
Kilosok done19:20
inetproyou see the difference?19:20
Kilosoic thats nice19:20
Kilosty19:20
inetpromuch better19:20
Kilosyeah19:20
Kiloswell done19:20
inetprothen look at the bottom right hand corner19:20
inetproyou see where it says Today Pane19:21
Kilosyes?19:21
inetproclick on it19:21
Kilosah thats the calender pane19:22
Kiloscool19:22
inetproyep, useful when you don't need the calendar19:22
Kilosyeah19:22
inetproand the upper right corner19:23
inetproyou get the calendar tab and the task tab19:23
Kilosya i see tasks and calender19:23
Kilosive looked there19:23
inetprook19:23
Kilosi get enough task reminders in trello to need that19:24
inetprowhats next?19:24
Kilosare you on 14.04?19:24
inetprono19:24
Kiloslater?19:24
inetpro14.04.219:24
inetpro:-)19:25
Kilossigh19:25
Kilosi dont know if im gonna be able to wait till 16.0419:25
Kiloswanna see sydemd and mir and plasma 519:26
Kilossystemd19:26
Kilosoh my no more update-grub19:28
Kilosi wonder what takes its place when running a few drives19:28
Kilosmore rtfs19:28
Kilossigh19:28
inetproai!19:29
magespawnit never stops Kilos 19:29
pieter2627night all19:29
inetproKilos: the only thing that's constant is change, get used to it19:30
Kilosya but when you have min ram and half of it is in conflict with the rest whew19:30
inetpropieter2627: hmm...19:30
inetprogood night19:30
Kilosnight pieter2627  19:30
Kilossleep tight19:30
magespawngood night pieter262719:30
inetpromagespawn: are you winning?19:30
Kiloswow no tab complete either magespawn  19:31
Kilosmust be using a new pill19:32
magespawninetpro: winning?19:35
inetpromagespawn: the bugsquad thing19:36
magespawni was just going to follow along with what they did, to see the process19:36
Kilosinetpro  19:39
inetproai!19:40
Kiloswhen reviewing a proposal do you just look at the code19:40
Kilosor actually run is so you see pics19:40
Kilosrun it19:40
Kilosinetpro  ^^19:42
Kilosuh oh19:43
magespawni have just set an ec2 instance running ubuntu though19:44
Kiloshe broke something19:44
Kilosso then you are winning19:45
magespawnset up19:47
Kilosis that more than you could do yesterday19:48
inetpromagespawn: nice!19:52
inetpromagespawn: how much you paying for that?19:52
magespawni am on the free tier for now19:53
magespawnhttp://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/19:55
inetpromagespawn: sounds interesting19:56
* inetpro needs to try that19:56
inetprowhere do I go?19:56
inetprooh19:56
magespawnvery easy to do the basic setup20:00
magespawnRTFS, lol20:02
Kilosrofl20:03
Kilosi enjoyed that20:03
magespawnyou could try it too, if you want Kilos 20:04
Kilosfor one year20:05
Kilosthen lose everything20:05
inetprohmm...20:06
Kilosall i want is a host site for QA20:07
magespawnor pay at the end of the year20:10
Kilosna20:11
magespawni have an idea to make this a paying proposition, if it works20:11
Kilosi can run it here free for ever only then it goes to bed when id o or loadsheeding decides20:11
Kilosgood luck then magespawn  20:12
Kilosi go crash now guys20:19
Kiloshold the fort20:19
KilosMaaz  watch them20:19
Maazoh Kilos I will watch them no problem, but you better be back soon!20:20
magespawngood night Kilos 20:20
Kilosnight all. sleep tight20:20
inetprohmm...20:20
inetprogood night oom20:20
Kiloswat nou20:20
Kiloslol20:20
Kilosjy ook boetie20:20
inetpromagespawn: hmm... but they need payment info up front?20:25
magespawnyes that is in case you go over board, then will then charge you20:29
magespawnbut you can set an alert so that you do not exceed the free usage20:32
inetproah20:34
inetpromagespawn: still playing around?21:55
hibanahello magespawn 21:56
* hibana greeting you from Ireland21:57
hibanabut looks like everyone is asleep already21:57
hibanagood night21:58
inetprofp22:00
magespawnfp?22:27
magespawni am off to bed good night22:30

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