[04:54] <Kilos> ai!
[07:12] <pieter2627> morning all
[07:27] <Kilos> morning all and sundry
[07:31] <Kilos> sjoe trello changed some
[07:32] <Kilos> telkom gonna charge more for line rentals
[07:32] <Kilos> ai!
[07:32] <Kilos> just now mobile will be cheaper
[07:36] <Kilos> haha gremble joined
[07:36] <Kilos> hi pieter2627  superfly  inetpro  
[07:39] <pieter2627> hi Kilos
[08:18] <inetpro> good mornings
[08:19] <Kilos> hi inetpro  
[08:41] <Kilos> inetpro  just look at this please
[08:41] <Kilos> http://www.snapdeal.com/product/tenda-300-mbps-3g4g-wireless/1776919737
[08:42] <Kilos> my supplier sells them for R299
[08:42] <Kilos> how can there be such a price diffs
[08:46] <inetpro> Kilos: price difference?
[08:47] <Kilos> sitye price Rs 2290
[08:47] <inetpro> and?
[08:47] <Kilos> local R299
[08:47] <inetpro> you think Rs = rands ?
[08:47] <Kilos> oh what is it
[08:48] <inetpro> Kilos: https://www.google.com/search?q=rs+2290+in+rands
[08:48] <Kilos> oh them rupoee things
[08:48] <Kilos> rupee
[08:49] <inetpro> yay!
[08:49] <Kilos> ty
[08:49] <inetpro> nou verstaan hy :-)
[08:49] <Kilos> ja
[08:53] <Kilos> what did you guys break after i went to bed
[08:55] <inetpro> uh
[09:04] <Kilos> moppie will be away for a while because of studies. i dunno if you saw that
[09:08] <Kilos> hi DalekSec  welcome to ubuntu-za
[09:08] <DalekSec> Howdy.
[09:09] <Kilos> oh nice to see you here 
[09:09] <Kilos> from ubuntu-irc right?
[09:10] <inetpro> hi DalekSec
[09:13] <DalekSec> Kilos: From everywhere.
[09:14] <Kilos> haha
[09:16] <inetpro> DalekSec: have you seen our new site?
[09:16] <inetpro> https://ubuntu-za.org
[09:17] <Kilos> ah locoteams too i see
[09:17] <Kilos> when you helped me you use the 193 nick
[09:18] <DalekSec> Now I have.  Like the https by default.  Interesting, the Ubuntu theme not on Drupal or Wordpress.
[09:20] <inetpro> was superfly's idea to use Nikola, and I like it
[09:21] <inetpro> there's not much that can beat a good looking static site
[09:21]  * pieter2627 seconds that ^^^
[09:23] <DalekSec> Kilos: Yeah that's my main.
[09:24] <Kilos> well DalekSec  nice to have you join us
[09:24] <inetpro> Kilos: you have good memories
[09:24] <Kilos> yeah on irc memories are better
[09:25] <DalekSec> All of them.
[09:25] <Kilos> especially those that help me
[09:26] <inetpro> DalekSec: Kilos also driving us to help africa rise again :-)
[09:26] <Kilos> DalekSec  dont get shocked by some of our off topic chats
[09:26] <Kilos> we are a happy family here
[09:26] <inetpro> we're still busy with the site but we're getting there
[09:26] <DalekSec> za.ubuntuforums.org supposed to redirect to a specific subforum?
[09:27] <inetpro> oh, we used to have a guy like drubin who was very active there
[09:27] <Kilos> our forum is archived because we are mainly irc users
[09:27] <inetpro> unfortunately he got assimilated by work or something 
[09:28] <inetpro> DalekSec: do other people still use the forums even?
[09:28] <DalekSec> inetpro: Depends on what section, there's also Discourse.
[09:29] <inetpro> personally I find many answers on askubuntu these days
[09:32] <inetpro> we have at least two new members who have started and are making an effort to help with squashing bugs as well
[09:32] <inetpro> by joining the BugSquad
[09:33] <inetpro> pieter2627: how are thing going there?
[09:33] <inetpro> things as well
[09:33] <Kilos> octoquad  was away yesterday
[09:33] <inetpro> ai!
[09:33] <Kilos> they are working together
[09:34] <pieter2627> inetpro: slow, but making progress... hopefully
[09:35] <inetpro> Kilos: so what are you up to today?
[09:36] <Kilos> fixing unity on my old pc
[09:36] <inetpro> oh wow, wb plustwo
[09:36] <Kilos> wb plustwo  
[09:36] <plustwo> oi! hi guys...
[09:36] <plustwo> o/
[09:37] <inetpro> Kilos: time to inform the man of all the things he has missed out on :-)
[09:37] <plustwo> been long time away from ubuntu ZA and folks
[09:37] <Kilos> shame on you plustwo  
[09:37] <plustwo> i know
[09:37] <Kilos> lots of things you missed out on
[09:38] <Kilos> we are shaking the continent
[09:38] <plustwo> eish!
[09:38] <plustwo> that sounds highly positive ...
[09:38] <Kilos> go see https://trello.com/b/GKXXiBxU/ubuntu-south-africa-loco
[09:38] <inetpro> we've been going strong ever since Kilos and superfly went for official membership
[09:39] <plustwo> congradulations guys, ZA is on the world map through you guys
[09:40] <inetpro> they are our driving force
[09:40] <Kilos> well they give you a sjambok to prob peeps with
[09:40] <plustwo> i salute them proudly, as in "proudly south afrcan"
[09:40] <inetpro> s/prob/prod/
[09:41] <plustwo> lol
[09:41] <Kilos> sorry yeah prod
[09:41]  * plustwo must catch up big time
[09:42] <Kilos> yip we need peeps active
[09:42] <Kilos> and we are pushing for more guys to get ubuntu membership
[09:43] <inetpro> Kilos: I see you noticed gremble adding his details last night as well
[09:43] <Kilos> yeah lol
[09:43] <Kilos> skelm
[09:43] <Kilos> waits till i go to bed first
[09:44] <inetpro> Oupa, gremble is our local mathematician around here
[09:44] <plustwo> a badge we all need to be proud of
[09:44] <plustwo> mathematician you said?
[09:44] <plustwo> who's Oupa?
[09:44] <Kilos> you were
[09:44] <inetpro> oops, I mean superfly
[09:45] <plustwo> lol
[09:45] <inetpro> damn!!! I mean plustwo
[09:45] <plustwo> it's been a while... :/
[09:46] <Kilos> plustwo  you want to add you at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Members
[09:47] <Kilos> thats a new page to get everyone thats still active together
[09:47] <plustwo> Kilos: that will be very kwl to be on the members list
[09:48] <plustwo> should i add myself, or one of you guys will add me up?
[09:48] <Kilos> you can
[09:48] <Kilos> inetpro  fixes what we break
[09:49] <plustwo> ok
[09:49] <Kilos> note in comments next to him
[09:49] <inetpro> ai! 
[09:50] <inetpro> Kilos: gremble also started another new page last night
[09:50] <inetpro> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/TipsTricksAndLinks
[09:50] <inetpro> we still need to populate that with info but I think it could be useful for remembering stuff
[09:51] <Kilos> cool
[09:53] <Kilos> there is also this under developement
[09:53] <Kilos> http://compunation.co.za/
[09:57] <plustwo> Kilos: which team do you belong to on te membership?
[09:57] <plustwo> s/te/the
[09:57] <Kilos> im lost plustwo  
[09:57] <Kilos> inetpro  fixit
[09:58] <plustwo> i see contributors team and development team
[09:58] <plustwo> or doesn't matter!
[09:59] <Kilos> where are you looking plustwo  
[09:59] <plustwo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/NewMember
[10:00] <Kilos> contributors
[10:00] <Kilos> i talk alot here
[10:00] <plustwo> ahhhh. lol
[10:00] <plustwo> is that the case?
[10:00] <inetpro> plustwo: start by simply adding yourself on the page below at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Members
[10:00] <plustwo> ok
[10:00] <inetpro> just click edit
[10:00] <plustwo> and also start talking a lot?
[10:01] <Kilos> lol
[10:01] <plustwo> this is "on" man... lol
[10:01] <inetpro> Official Ubuntu Membership means recognition of significant and sustained contribution to Ubuntu or the Ubuntu community
[10:01] <plustwo> sorry, was just kidding
[10:03] <inetpro> plustwo: Kilos has lots of work for you, no need to talk much :-)
[10:04] <Kilos> ai!
[10:04] <plustwo> i'm up for the work. tnx inetpro
[10:04] <plustwo> so i'll be the cleaner around here?
[10:05] <inetpro> hmm... 
[10:05] <Kilos> nono well train you up for the bugsquad
[10:05] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee on
[10:05]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[10:05] <Kilos> Maaz  coffee please
[10:05] <Maaz> Kilos: Okay
[10:05] <inetpro> you see, no need for a cleaner
[10:05] <Kilos> lol
[10:05] <inetpro> we have Maaz to clean the cups already before making coffee
[10:06] <plustwo> oh! bugsquad? interesnting... i'm up for the challenge
[10:06] <Kilos> then just be here all the time
[10:07] <inetpro> Kilos: have you told him about our new site yet?
[10:07] <Kilos> pieter2627  another bug guy for your squad
[10:07] <plustwo> s/interesnting/interesting
[10:07] <plustwo> ok
[10:07] <Kilos> plustwo  https://ubuntu-za.org/
[10:08] <plustwo> what criteria do i need? except being here always?
[10:08] <inetpro> and the other one we're busy with as well
[10:08] <Kilos> lol knowlege
[10:08] <inetpro> plustwo: see https://trello.com/b/GKXXiBxU/ubuntu-south-africa-loco
[10:08] <Kilos> is the other one live inetpro  ?
[10:09] <inetpro> Kilos: well, we're getting there
[10:09] <inetpro> http://ubuntu-africa.snyman.info/
[10:09] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for inetpro and Kilos!
[10:09] <Kilos> oh ya that one
[10:09] <inetpro> that's our QA site 
[10:09] <Kilos> Maaz  gracias
[10:09] <Maaz> Kilos: ¡de nada!
[10:09] <inetpro> and if you want to get involved you look at https://trello.com/c/tvAtfR4k
[10:10] <inetpro> Maaz: dankie
[10:10] <Maaz> Groot plesier inetpro my vriend
[10:10] <plustwo> ok, got te drift
[10:10] <plustwo> s/te/the
[10:12] <inetpro> we even have mazal working on Fun on Ubuntu wiki
[10:12] <inetpro> our local gamer
[10:12] <plustwo> gamer?
[10:12] <inetpro> oh, don't go there, you'll be lost forever
[10:12] <Kilos> ya he likes playing games
[10:13] <Kilos> lol
[10:13] <inetpro> :-)
[10:13] <inetpro> rather join pieter2627 and the BugSquad
[10:13] <Kilos> ya
[10:14] <Kilos> games are for when all the stuff on trello is moved to done
[10:15] <plustwo> bugsquad sounds interesting...
[10:16] <inetpro> you'll be a local hero with that
[10:16] <inetpro> see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad
[10:16] <plustwo> good directions you guys outlined here, i really missed a lot
[10:16] <inetpro> enjoy
[10:17]  * pieter2627 can't believe he has a squad while still trying to figure things out... sigh
[10:17] <inetpro> plustwo: help him :-)
[10:17] <pieter2627> oh, nice to meet you plustwo 
[10:17] <Kilos> octoquad  will help you all
[10:18] <plustwo> ok
[10:18]  * inetpro needs to go
[10:18] <inetpro> wbb
[10:18] <Kilos> later inetpro  
[10:18] <plustwo> getting to grips
[10:18] <plustwo> l8r inetpro
[10:20] <plustwo> Kilos: you guys gave a lot info, i need to be on the members list then go through the bugsquad info
[10:20] <Kilos> pieter2627  guide him please
[10:21] <plustwo> hi pieter2627
[10:21] <Kilos> dont you have a launchpad id?
[10:22] <pieter2627> Kilos aren't these the things you expect us to do while sleeping :P
[10:22] <Kilos> nono i just dont like you guys to sleep more than i do
[10:23] <Kilos> i get jealous
[10:23] <pieter2627> plustwo: do you see `Edit` on the top of the members list page (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Members)?
[10:23] <pieter2627> Kilos: haha
[10:32] <plustwo> sorry pieter2627i was making coffee...
[10:33] <pieter2627> plustwo: no worries
[10:34] <Kilos> plustwo  have you joined here https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za/+members?active_batch=75
[10:35] <plustwo> no yet Kilos
[10:36] <plustwo> should i joint tere first?
[10:36] <pieter2627> order doesn't matter
[10:37] <Kilos> ya
[10:38] <plustwo> pieter2627: i don't see "Edit"
[10:39] <plustwo> i se "Create new empty page"
[10:39] <pieter2627> plustwo: Log in first (top centre)
[10:39] <plustwo> ok
[10:40] <pieter2627> Do you have an Ubuntu (One or openID) account?
[10:41] <plustwo> yes, just logged in with it
[10:41] <pieter2627> great, you will also use it on launchpad
[10:42] <plustwo> i'm logged in on lp as well
[10:44] <plustwo> waiting for the login to complete
[10:44] <pieter2627> great... yea it can take very long at times
[10:48] <pieter2627> oh Kilos, on the ubuntu ZA members wiki page - why does the official members' table have an empty row at the bottom?
[10:49] <Kilos> because i asked the pro to add one i think
[10:49] <plustwo> pieter2627: i'm logged in
[10:49] <Kilos> because i sukkeled to add peeps
[10:49] <Kilos> oh the officail one
[10:50] <pieter2627> plustwo: you should be able to edit it now
[10:50] <Kilos> hmm... was sypposed to be at the bottom list
[10:50] <Kilos> supposed
[10:50] <plustwo> pieter2627: yes, i ckicked on edit...
[10:51] <plustwo> sould i make an entry at the bottom?
[10:51] <Kilos> ya
[10:51] <plustwo> ok
[10:52] <pieter2627> Kilos: oh, ok
[10:52] <Kilos> its easier to add when there is already an extra line added
[10:53] <Kilos> for me anyway
[10:53] <pieter2627> Kilos: i just copied the last one and edited it
[10:53] <Kilos> clever
[11:01] <plustwo> ok, i think i'm done editting. 
[11:02] <Kilos> then tick save at the top i think
[11:02] <plustwo> save changes
[11:02] <Kilos> ya
[11:03] <plustwo> ok, i just did a preview. something i need to fix before saving
[11:03] <Kilos> ok
[11:10] <plustwo> ok, that's completed.
[11:11] <pieter2627> plustwo: then just go to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za and click join team
[11:12] <pieter2627> plustwo: never mind, you are already there
[11:12] <plustwo> already joined the team...
[11:12] <plustwo> :)
[11:12] <pieter2627> haha, yea sorry
[11:12] <Kilos> lol
[11:12] <plustwo> tnx pieter2627
[11:13] <pieter2627> np
[11:15] <plustwo> should i subscribe to the bug squad mailing list or not?
[11:16] <Kilos> i would if im gonna join the squad
[11:16] <pieter2627> i have not done so yet, still trying to figure things out
[11:16] <plustwo> ok
[11:17] <plustwo> but then i can join the #ubuntu-bugs. as i'm going throug the bug squad wiki...
[11:35] <Kilos> thats the irc channel actually getting into the squad is more work
[11:35] <Kilos> only pieter2627  and octoquad  know that here
[11:37] <plustwo> ok, so how do you select which bugs to work on and where?
[11:38] <Kilos> they will have to help you plustwo  im dom with that
[11:39] <plustwo> np, i get you
[11:40] <pieter2627> plustwo: as i understand, the best it is look for bugs on packages/programs that you use and would want to help in, and then just pick a bug
[11:42] <plustwo> ok, i understand. but first one must understand the ubuntu packaging and also set up the working environment to work in.
[11:42] <Kilos> hi Tonberry  
[11:42] <Tonberry> hi
[11:44] <pieter2627> plustwo: yeah, i'm learning packaging with my current first bug, octoquad knows about the environment (and possibly packaging)
[11:44] <pieter2627> But i guess it is a case of learning as you go
[11:45] <inetpro> where's tumbleweed these days
[11:45] <inetpro> ?
[11:45] <inetpro> wb Tonberry
[11:45] <Tonberry> hi
[11:46] <plustwo> and how do you get the fix to upstream? via MOTU or something? for approval
[11:46] <inetpro> and confluency
[11:47] <pieter2627> plustwo: ubuntu devs will push it upstream as i understand
[11:47] <inetpro> Kilos: time for you use your sjambok and bring back those guys to help us here
[11:47] <Kilos> ai! they joined the lurksquad
[11:47] <pieter2627> plustwo: you might want to read http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/09/%23ubuntu-za.html#t19:39
[11:48] <Kilos> inetpro  they too big for me
[11:48] <pieter2627> it is the first part we did to fix a bug
[11:49] <inetpro> plustwo: but some bzr knowledge can't hurt you
[11:49] <inetpro> unless you have played with that already
[11:49] <plustwo> inetpro: nope.
[11:49] <Kilos> tumbles is still in last night
[11:50] <inetpro> play around with it with the websites we're busy with
[11:54] <plustwo> you know what, i remember playing around and some help from dholbach ...
[11:54] <Kilos> good
[11:54] <plustwo> inetpro: i remember i had te bzr setup as well
[11:54] <Kilos> shake that memory
[11:54] <plustwo> pulling and pushing
[11:55] <plustwo> hence i was able to create a packange on lp whilst i was learning. :)
[11:56] <plustwo> well, since i see some energy on ubuntu-za i might as well get my feet wet agin on the bugs. :)
[11:56] <Kilos> lol good lad
[11:56] <plustwo> s/agin/again
[11:57] <plustwo> ya. thanks guys for allowing me to help on that one
[11:57]  * plustwo will have some fun squashing some bugs
[11:57] <Kilos> only im not allowed to help, because i break things
[11:58] <plustwo> ooooops! not good... :)
[11:58] <Kilos> lol
[11:58] <pieter2627> Kilos: sometimes breaking broken things fixes them
[11:58] <plustwo> ok, i need to dug up old documentation i had on this
[11:58] <plustwo> yep
[11:59] <Kilos> oi not the way i break them then we get showered with ai! all day
[12:00] <pieter2627> rofl
[12:02] <plustwo> pieter2627: i need to bring myself up to speed on this. 
[12:04] <pieter2627> plustwo: i'm glad someone else also knows this cause i'm struggling patching this thing
[12:05]  * pieter2627 sees that he will never be able to use his ai's here because he will only confuse Kilos
[12:05] <Kilos> lol
[12:06] <plustwo> i'm currently looking at hundredpapercuts, i see your progress as well. good job
[12:06] <pieter2627> thanks
[12:14] <inetpro> hmm...
[12:14] <inetpro> Kilos: sorry for being harsh on you
[12:14] <Kilos> i forgive you inetpro  
[12:15] <inetpro> Kilos: you're doing a great job anyway
[12:15] <Kilos> ty sir
[12:24] <inetpro> 04/11 11:04:54 <Kilos> moppie will be away for a while because of studies. i dunno if you saw that
[12:25] <inetpro> Kilos: where did you see that?
[12:25] <Kilos> just before he left night before last i think
[12:25] <inetpro> oh
[12:25] <Kilos> block studies he called it
[12:26] <inetpro> oh well, I think he was done with what he needed to do
[12:26] <Kilos> yay
[12:26] <Kilos> our site does llok good
[12:26] <Kilos> look
[12:26] <inetpro> hopefully superfly will just approve his changes and deploy asap
[12:27] <Kilos> lets hope
[12:27] <Kilos> https is more expensive than http i see
[12:27] <inetpro> pieter2627: have you done your edits from trunk yet?
[12:28] <inetpro> Kilos: don't worry about that
[12:28] <Kilos> eish
[12:29] <inetpro> one day we'll go do some begging at canonical if we run out of cash
[12:29] <Kilos> lol i want a buntu fone
[12:29] <Kilos> not money
[12:30] <inetpro> you can buy one now Kilos
[12:30] <Kilos> eish
[12:30]  * Kilos slaps inetpro
[12:30] <inetpro> ai!
[12:30] <Kilos> haha
[12:30] <Kilos> gently so it didnt hurt
[12:32] <pieter2627> inetpro: i did before moppies last commit - have a pending merge tip to get it into my branch?
[12:33] <inetpro> hmm... let me go look where we stand now
[12:35] <inetpro> No revisions or tags to pull.                                                                                             
[12:36] <inetpro> pieter2627: mopkop's changes are now merged into trunk
[12:37] <inetpro> last comment from superfly, "Once Ashton's stuff has been merged, you'll need to merge from trunk into your branch, check if there are any changes, push up anything that needs to be pushed, and then re-submit your proposal if necessary."
[12:39] <inetpro> pieter2627: it will be nice if we can get your changes applied as well before deploying to the QA site
[12:40] <pieter2627> inetpro: i get the `pending merge tips` after merging from trunk
[12:40] <pieter2627> i ran `bzr merge ../trunk`
[12:42] <inetpro> pieter2627: can you pastebin the full output?
[12:42] <inetpro> in fact let me actually try as well
[12:42] <inetpro> 2 conflicts encountered
[12:45] <pieter2627> inetpro: http://bin.snyman.info/5atxr
[12:45] <pieter2627> inetpro: i also have a new branch made from trunk https://code.launchpad.net/~pieter2627/ubuntu-africa/jumbotron-edits
[12:48] <inetpro> ahh... let me try that and see
[12:49] <inetpro> pieter2627: something is missing there
[12:50] <inetpro> hmm... that won't work
[12:50] <inetpro> pieter2627: have you updated your trunk?
[12:50] <pieter2627> yes trunk at rev4
[12:51] <inetpro> that's strange
[12:51] <pieter2627> rev4 is the pending merge tip in my branch
[12:51] <inetpro> pieter2627: go to trunk and do nikola build && nikola serve
[12:52] <inetpro> you will clearly see the beautiful new home page at http://localhost:8000/
[12:52] <pieter2627> yip i do
[12:52] <inetpro> on your branch those images are gone
[12:53] <inetpro> unless I missed something
[12:55] <inetpro> pieter2627: the only file in your the pages folder is index.rst
[12:55] <inetpro> your pages folder
[12:56] <pieter2627> where can i upload a screenshot
[12:56] <pieter2627> *?
[12:56] <Kilos> picpaste.com
[12:57] <inetpro> or http://pasteboard.co/
[12:57] <Kilos> ya or that
[12:57] <Kilos> thats a drag drop one
[12:58] <pieter2627> http://pasteboard.co/2uaMME3m.png
[12:59] <pieter2627> my `bzr qlog`
[13:00] <inetpro> looks like you did that before it was merged
[13:01] <pieter2627> http://pasteboard.co/2uaZ9OJE.png
[13:01] <pieter2627> before merging
[13:03] <inetpro> this is what I see http://pasteboard.co/2ub6r55U.png
[13:03] <pieter2627> http://pasteboard.co/2ub7chV5.png
[13:03] <pieter2627> better after merge
[13:05] <inetpro> what do you see when going cd ../trunk && bzr status
[13:06] <pieter2627> blank returned
[13:06] <inetpro> ok, so that is fine
[13:07] <inetpro> pieter2627: that last one of yours, did you push it?
[13:09] <pieter2627> it is the same one that you took screenshot of
[13:10] <pieter2627> you mean push after merge?
[13:10] <inetpro> yes
[13:10] <inetpro> commit and push
[13:10] <pieter2627> think so, let me repush
[13:11] <pieter2627> if i commit then i have to give a commit msg
[13:11] <pieter2627> will give screenshot of it then
[13:11] <inetpro> you can use bzr qcommit
[13:11] <inetpro> makes life easier
[13:13] <Kilos> you getting good at bzr hey inetpro  
[13:13] <Kilos> bugsquad next
[13:13] <inetpro> hehe
[13:13] <pieter2627> http://pasteboard.co/2ubKnRcR.png
[13:13] <pieter2627> it does not look right
[13:14] <inetpro> looks right to me
[13:14] <inetpro> can you push that?
[13:15] <pieter2627> but the `added pages` is on top of mine, shouldn't mine be on top of it?
[13:16] <inetpro> nope
[13:16] <pieter2627> hell, bzr is weird
[13:16] <inetpro> :-)
[13:16] <inetpro> I think he made changes after you did
[13:17] <inetpro> some of them at least
[13:17] <inetpro> we'll ask superfly, whether that is right
[13:17]  * inetpro worries more about the end result
[13:17] <pieter2627> pushed to https://code.launchpad.net/~pieter2627/ubuntu-africa/jumbotron-edits
[13:18]  * inetpro pulling
[13:18] <pieter2627> and the `added pages` is still there
[13:19] <inetpro> \0/
[13:20] <inetpro> now go do the merge proposal thingy
[13:20] <inetpro> this will be interesting
[13:20] <inetpro> the log tree makes sense to me
[13:21] <inetpro> remember Added pages links back to rev3
[13:22] <inetpro> it's different to git
[13:22] <pieter2627> ok, proposed
[13:23]  * pieter2627 is still finding this weird
[13:24] <Kilos> thats why its so good because its so different
[13:24] <inetpro> superfly: your turn
[13:24] <Kilos> more bzr knowlege will help with bugs i think
[13:24] <inetpro> approved from my side
[13:25] <Kilos> now we wait in anticipation
[13:25] <pieter2627> Kilos: yes it will help
[13:26] <inetpro> pieter2627: oh, now you can go remove the other one
[13:27] <pieter2627> should i provide a link to the new one in comments before removing?
[13:28] <inetpro> I would simply delete it
[13:28] <inetpro> no need to keep it there
[13:29] <Kilos> some good news
[13:29] <Kilos> stormers won and cheetahs won
[13:30] <pieter2627> inetpro: what does your branch look like after merging from trunk?
[13:30] <inetpro> pieter2627: I haven't merged it to trunk yet, just waiting for superfly to approve as well
[13:31] <pieter2627> from trunk not to trunk
[13:31] <pieter2627> your bzr qlog
[13:31] <inetpro> if I do a bzr qlog on your branch I see exactly the same as in your screenshot
[13:32] <pieter2627> haha, for your build-instructions branch
[13:33] <inetpro> 8, 3.1.1, 2.1.2, 7, 6, 5, 3, 2.1.1, 2, 1
[13:35] <inetpro> pieter2627: oh for my build-instructions I see: 5, 4, 2.1.2, 3, 2.1.1, 2, 1
[13:35] <inetpro> that's where it will become interesting
[13:35] <inetpro> when the merge is done
[13:36] <pieter2627> sjoe, yeah it will be interesting
[13:39] <inetpro> actually there's a 1.1.1 between 1 and 2
[13:40] <Kilos> sjoe you guys getting tied in knots now
[13:42] <inetpro> pieter2627: the log is ordered by date and time
[13:43] <pieter2627> oh ok
[13:48] <inetpro> pieter2627: thanks for your efforts 
[13:48] <Kilos> ty pieter2627  and inetpro  
[13:50] <pieter2627> np
[13:51] <inetpro> Ubuntu MATE forges exciting partnership with Entroware https://www.entroware.com/store/ubuntu-mate-announcement
[13:54] <inetpro> Kilos: Entroware is a start up geared towards providing a complete "out of the box" Linux experience
[13:54] <Kilos> ai!
[13:54] <Kilos> just when im getting used to kde
[13:55] <inetpro> and then we also have this one: Dell loads Ubuntu Linux onto its best thin-and-light laptop http://www.pcworld.com/article/2908508/dell-loads-ubuntu-linux-onto-its-best-thin-and-light-laptop.html
[13:55] <inetpro> Kilos: it's not about the distro
[13:55] <Kilos> no man i enjoyed amte on unity
[13:55] <Kilos> mate
[13:55] <inetpro> it's about more and more hardware companies doing the right thing
[13:56] <Kilos> yes i agree
[13:56] <inetpro> building hardware with linux from the start
[13:56] <Kilos> the africa site has quite a bit about dell lappy's
[13:56] <Kilos> ubuntu of course
[13:56] <inetpro> even BQ, http://www.bq.com/gb/right-to-technology
[13:57] <inetpro> plustwo: dit you see all that ^^ ?
[13:57] <inetpro> exciting times
[13:57] <plustwo> :) yep
[13:58] <plustwo> MATE desktop is kwl
[14:00] <Kilos> ya i enjoyed it till i got used to kde
[14:08] <Kilos> Ubuntu MATE is the perfect distribution for easing the transition 
[14:08] <Kilos> between Microsoft Windows or Mac OS and Linux.
[14:09] <Kilos> strange, ian prefered kde from the start
[14:13] <inetpro> Kilos: btw, did you install xul-ext-lightning with thunderbird?
[14:13] <inetpro> Calendar Extension for Thunderbird
[14:13] <Kilos> sigh tell me how
[14:13] <inetpro> aptitude
[14:14] <Kilos> oh not a plugin
[14:14] <Kilos> ty
[14:14] <inetpro> yes, it's a plugin but even plugins can be installed from the repository
[14:14] <inetpro> at least many of them
[14:14] <inetpro> actually not a plugin but a addon
[14:15] <Kilos> ah ty installing
[14:15] <Kilos> i need something to remind me of important dates
[14:16] <inetpro> use your phone for that
[14:17] <Kilos> no they always have flat batteries
[14:17] <inetpro> ai!
[14:17] <Kilos> lol
[14:17] <magespawn> good afternoon
[14:17] <Kilos> hi magespawn  
[14:17] <Kilos> another one joined the bug team
[14:18] <magespawn> cool beans
[14:18] <Kilos> plustwo  returned and seems excited at the new life here
[14:19] <magespawn> that is good
[14:19] <plustwo> hi magespawn
[14:19] <inetpro> Kilos: is it installed yet?
[14:20] <magespawn> hi plustwo inetpro 
[14:20] <Kilos> yes
[14:20] <inetpro> wb magespawn
[14:20] <Kilos> oh my
[14:20] <Kilos> more to look at
[14:20] <magespawn> oh my?
[14:21] <Kilos> rtfs is gonna kill me yet
[14:21] <inetpro> :-)
[14:21] <Kilos> just installed lightning on thuenderbird magespawn  
[14:21] <Kilos> thunderbird
[14:21] <inetpro> Kilos: do you use google calendar?
[14:21] <Kilos> at last the pro has me off evo
[14:22] <Kilos> i use the calender kde shows me in the bottom panel
[14:22] <Kilos> must i get that too
[14:22] <inetpro> hmm... yeah that is useful, but can't make appointments there, can you?
[14:23] <inetpro> Kilos: no, but if you are it can be useful to integrate with lightning in thunderbird
[14:23] <Kilos> i just want birthday reminders
[14:23] <Kilos> oh my
[14:24] <inetpro> ok, get to know lightning first then we can talk integration another day
[14:25] <inetpro> useful if you want the same calendar events across multiple devices
[14:25] <Kilos> sjoe more thinking
[14:25] <magespawn> i thought lightening would simply take the calender from the google address that you use with thunderbird, you might have to link it seperately
[14:25] <inetpro> you just need yet another addon for that
[14:25] <inetpro>  Provider for Google Calendar https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/provider-for-google-calendar/
[14:26] <inetpro> but it's pointless if you don't use google calendar
[14:29] <Kilos> ok how to get google calender?
[14:29] <Kilos> dont make me google
[14:29] <Kilos> im tired, you guys worked too hard today
[14:29] <Kilos> ive downloaded it
[14:30] <Kilos> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/provider-for-google-calendar/
[14:30] <Kilos> that it
[14:30] <inetpro> Kilos: https://www.google.com/calendar
[14:30] <magespawn> Kilos: if you have gmail google calender comes with it but you need to use it for this to make sense
[14:30] <Kilos> now gotta work out how to get TB to find it
[14:31] <Kilos> of course i have gmail
[14:31] <Kilos> 4 of them i think
[14:32] <Kilos> eish that play store
[14:32] <Kilos> like the droid things
[14:32] <magespawn> you have that xperia?
[14:33] <Kilos> ya i hate it
[14:34] <magespawn> you can download the app for google calender for that
[14:34] <Kilos> only any good for whatsapp
[14:34] <inetpro> Kilos: it doesn't come with a calendar?
[14:35] <Kilos> i dont even want to look at that thing unless i must send a whatsapp
[14:35] <Kilos> i do my stuff here on the pc
[14:36] <Kilos> there i have the google calender in thunderbird now
[14:36] <Kilos> sigh
[14:37] <magespawn> and now?
[14:37] <Kilos> i dunno
[14:37] <Kilos> pro wanted it there so its there
[14:41] <Kilos> hmm... 32g flash for R139
[14:42] <Kilos> 120g ssd for R899
[14:43] <Kilos> mushkin products
[15:04] <Kilos> sharks lions about to start inetpro  
[15:05] <inetpro> oh yhanks Kilos
[15:05] <Kilos> yw
[15:55] <magespawn> home time, later all
[16:44] <plustwo> ok, a lot i've learned today. going to do some home work. till tomorrow, keep well
[16:45] <Kilos> cool plustwo  
[16:45] <Kilos> keep it up
[16:46] <plustwo> will do. cheers
[16:47] <Kilos> wb magespawn  
[16:47] <magespawn> ty
[17:00] <Kilos> ai!
[17:00] <Kilos> hi Tonberry  
[17:07] <magespawn> and now Kilos?
[17:07] <Kilos> sharks lost to lions
[17:08] <Kilos> looks like neelsie is drifting away too
[17:08] <Kilos> need to prod him with the sjambok i think
[17:09] <magespawn> people commit what they can when they can, maybe he is just busy elsewhere
[17:10] <Kilos> ya new baby and work
[17:10] <Kilos> not much sleep time
[17:28] <inetpro> Tonberry: you haven't joined ubuntu-za on LP have you?
[17:29] <inetpro> just go to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za and join 
[17:30] <inetpro> Kilos: I just installed thunderbird here again earlier today
[17:31] <inetpro> tried the IMAP option for a change
[17:31] <Kilos> again?
[17:31] <Kilos> eish
[17:31] <inetpro> well, I haven't used it here for a lobg time
[17:31] <inetpro> long*
[17:31] <Kilos> what have you used
[17:31] <inetpro> just used the web interface
[17:31] <inetpro> gmail
[17:31] <Kilos> oh
[17:31] <Kilos> imap pulls down too much
[17:32] <Kilos> i got 5g of mails at gmail
[17:32] <inetpro> thought since you're now on thunderbird I should have it loaded here as well
[17:32] <Kilos> hahaha ty
[17:32] <Kilos> but pop is my choice
[17:33] <inetpro> yeah IMAP really killing me
[17:33] <inetpro> still downloading mails for like two hours now
[17:34] <pieter2627> POP pulls down emails not IMAP
[17:34] <Kilos> ya it doesnt stop then you have to delete everything you dont want on pc
[17:34] <pieter2627> one can set IMAP to only get the headers
[17:34] <Kilos> pop pulls down only new mails
[17:34] <pieter2627> thats correct
[17:35] <Kilos> imap pulls them all
[17:35] <Kilos> and only then new ones
[17:35] <pieter2627> but doesn't it also remove it from the mail server
[17:35] <Kilos> ?
[17:35] <pieter2627> POP i mean
[17:35] <Kilos> no
[17:36] <Kilos> you set it to fetch but leave in server too
[17:36] <pieter2627> then it stays unread on the server?
[17:36] <Kilos> but i do agree it seems to be much faster than evo
[17:37] <Kilos> i dunno pieter2627  
[17:37] <inetpro> pieter2627: I don't see the option to download only headers with IMAP, know about it on POP
[17:37] <Kilos> maybe it leaves them as read
[17:37] <inetpro> but I found some Advanced options now 
[17:38] <inetpro> under Accounts | Synchronisation & Storage
[17:38] <inetpro> set to not download messages larger than 50KB
[17:39] <Kilos> ya but not many mails are that size anyway 
[17:39] <Kilos> now i keep like 10 important mails here and delete the rest
[17:40] <Kilos> knowing they are still safe on the server
[17:41] <inetpro> Kilos: btw, have you changed your default layout?
[17:42] <Kilos> ai! too what
[17:42] <Kilos> oh ya
[17:42] <inetpro> wide view is much more readable
[17:42] <Kilos> all in one inbox supposed to e
[17:42] <Kilos> be
[17:43] <inetpro> step 1: Enable the Menu
[17:43] <inetpro> step 2: View | Layout | Wide View
[17:43] <Kilos> i see the different accounts on the left and the rest is the mails
[17:44] <inetpro> Kilos: right-click in the open space at the top 
[17:44] <Kilos> my view doesnt show layout
[17:45] <inetpro> you should see a popup with Menu Bar, Mail Toolbar and Customise
[17:46] <inetpro> or Customize...
[17:46] <Kilos> i right clicke in an open space and the left panel disappeared
[17:46] <Kilos> i gotta go eat
[17:46] <Kilos> wbb
[17:46] <inetpro> ok
[17:47] <Kilos> it opened another tab for that
[17:48] <Kilos> now got 2 tabs at the top like a browser
[17:48] <Kilos> calender also adds one more tab
[17:48]  * pieter2627 seems to be remembering things that don't exist, probably due to taking part from a baised view and having overtaxed his brain for the day
[17:49] <Kilos> lol
[17:49] <inetpro> ai!
[17:49] <inetpro> Kilos: go eat!
[17:49] <Kilos> have you fixed 10 bugs yet today?
[17:49] <Kilos> oh ya
[17:49] <inetpro> enjoy the meal!
[17:49] <inetpro> :-)
[17:50] <Kilos> pan brood met uie in
[17:50] <pieter2627> nope, still struggling with the same one, but moving forward
[17:50] <Kilos> good
[17:54] <inetpro> yay!
[17:54] <Kilos> what?
[17:54] <inetpro> I think my IMAP downloads are finally done
[17:54] <Kilos> lol
[17:55] <inetpro> took a damn long time and even taxing the CPU during the whole period
[17:55] <Kilos> whew
[17:55] <inetpro> like a steady 20% utilisation
[17:55] <Kilos> wow
[17:56] <inetpro> things like that just bug me to no end
[17:56] <Kilos> ya pop much better
[17:57] <inetpro> but I'll give it the benefit for some time
[17:57] <Kilos> now what you gonna do with all them mails in your inbox
[17:57] <inetpro> my inbox is always empty
[17:58] <Kilos> oh you put everything in other folders
[17:58] <inetpro> apart from one or two outstanding mails that need attention
[17:58] <inetpro> no
[17:58] <inetpro> just read, take action or take note and delete
[17:58] <Kilos> did it not clean out the server too
[17:59] <Kilos> ya i do that
[17:59] <inetpro> mails stay available unde All Mail
[17:59] <Kilos> eish thats extra stuff your pc dont need to carry
[18:00] <Kilos> and makes backups that much slower
[18:01] <inetpro> with mails available on gmail I don't have to worry about local backups
[18:01] <inetpro> at least not for mail
[18:01] <Kilos> oh dont you rsync home anymore
[18:02] <inetpro> nope
[18:02] <inetpro> just my data folder with photos and other stuffs
[18:26] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee on
[18:26]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[18:26] <Kilos> Maaz  coffee please
[18:26] <Maaz> Kilos: Yessir
[18:26] <Kilos> Maaz  rusks please
[18:26] <Maaz> behind the calender on top of the fridge, but dont tell everyone Kilos
[18:27] <magespawn> Maaz coffee please
[18:27] <Maaz> magespawn: Yessir
[18:29] <magespawn> Maaz large please
[18:29] <Maaz> magespawn: Huh?
[18:29] <magespawn> Maaz large 
[18:29] <Maaz> In a beer mug just for you magespawn
[18:29] <Kilos> lol
[18:29] <magespawn> ty Maaz
[18:30] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for inetpro, Kilos and magespawn!
[18:30] <inetpro> Maaz: thanks
[18:30] <Maaz> inetpro: No problem
[18:30] <Kilos> Maaz  danke
[18:30] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[18:31] <magespawn> Maaz botsnack
[18:31] <Maaz> YAY someone cares about me too!
[18:33] <inetpro> magespawn: +!
[18:33] <inetpro> +1 as well
[18:34] <inetpro> poor dude hasn't had a botsnack for a long time
[18:34] <Kilos> ya shame
[18:34] <Kilos> we get busy and the bot suffers
[18:59] <inetpro> ai!
[18:59] <Kilos> what?
[18:59] <inetpro> too quiet here
[19:00]  * inetpro getting impatient
[19:00] <Kilos> lol
[19:00] <Kilos> bulls just beat reds
[19:01] <Kilos> you also wanna swank inetpro  
[19:01] <inetpro> swank?
[19:02] <Kilos> brag
[19:02] <Kilos> g+ tweet place etc
[19:03] <Kilos> mnet went to nashville
[19:04] <Kilos> weird we dont get motm
[19:04] <Kilos> oops
[19:07] <Kilos> that was for tara
[19:07] <Kilos> sorry
[19:09] <inetpro> hmm... I thoight she was asleep and you could focus on working now :-)
[19:09] <Kilos> they too nosy to see
[19:11] <Kilos> oh and also neelsie on pidgin
[19:11] <Kilos> he happy his team won
[19:11] <inetpro> ai!
[19:11] <Kilos> haha
[19:12] <Kilos> shame he has had his mom visiting too
[19:12] <inetpro> poor dude
[19:12] <inetpro> all part of the fun
[19:12] <Kilos> yip
[19:13] <inetpro> superfly: time to do some work... kids should be in bed now :-)
[19:14] <Kilos> lol
[19:14] <Kilos> shame man
[19:14] <Kilos> he never gets any rest
[19:15] <Kilos> when he dies he will sleep like the dead
[19:15] <inetpro> he can rest between midnight and 4 am
[19:15] <Kilos> ai!
[19:16] <Kilos> you a hard task master
[19:16] <inetpro> lol
[19:16] <inetpro> no man, I'm just joking
[19:16] <Kilos> yaya
[19:17] <Kilos> im sure he even codes in his sleep
[19:17] <inetpro> Kilos: so let's look, what else can we do now?
[19:17] <inetpro> oja, thunderbird
[19:17] <Kilos> mine works stop adding more
[19:19] <inetpro> Kilos: Menu | Preferences | Layout | Wide View
[19:19] <inetpro> have you tried that?
[19:19] <Kilos> i dont see layout
[19:19] <inetpro> look
[19:19] <Kilos> ok
[19:20] <Kilos> ok done
[19:20] <inetpro> you see the difference?
[19:20] <Kilos> oic thats nice
[19:20] <Kilos> ty
[19:20] <inetpro> much better
[19:20] <Kilos> yeah
[19:20] <Kilos> well done
[19:20] <inetpro> then look at the bottom right hand corner
[19:21] <inetpro> you see where it says Today Pane
[19:21] <Kilos> yes?
[19:21] <inetpro> click on it
[19:22] <Kilos> ah thats the calender pane
[19:22] <Kilos> cool
[19:22] <inetpro> yep, useful when you don't need the calendar
[19:22] <Kilos> yeah
[19:23] <inetpro> and the upper right corner
[19:23] <inetpro> you get the calendar tab and the task tab
[19:23] <Kilos> ya i see tasks and calender
[19:23] <Kilos> ive looked there
[19:23] <inetpro> ok
[19:24] <Kilos> i get enough task reminders in trello to need that
[19:24] <inetpro> whats next?
[19:24] <Kilos> are you on 14.04?
[19:24] <inetpro> no
[19:24] <Kilos> later?
[19:24] <inetpro> 14.04.2
[19:25] <inetpro> :-)
[19:25] <Kilos> sigh
[19:25] <Kilos> i dont know if im gonna be able to wait till 16.04
[19:26] <Kilos> wanna see sydemd and mir and plasma 5
[19:26] <Kilos> systemd
[19:28] <Kilos> oh my no more update-grub
[19:28] <Kilos> i wonder what takes its place when running a few drives
[19:28] <Kilos> more rtfs
[19:28] <Kilos> sigh
[19:29] <inetpro> ai!
[19:29] <magespawn> it never stops Kilos 
[19:29] <pieter2627> night all
[19:30] <inetpro> Kilos: the only thing that's constant is change, get used to it
[19:30] <Kilos> ya but when you have min ram and half of it is in conflict with the rest whew
[19:30] <inetpro> pieter2627: hmm...
[19:30] <inetpro> good night
[19:30] <Kilos> night pieter2627  
[19:30] <Kilos> sleep tight
[19:30] <magespawn> good night pieter2627
[19:30] <inetpro> magespawn: are you winning?
[19:31] <Kilos> wow no tab complete either magespawn  
[19:32] <Kilos> must be using a new pill
[19:35] <magespawn> inetpro: winning?
[19:36] <inetpro> magespawn: the bugsquad thing
[19:36] <magespawn> i was just going to follow along with what they did, to see the process
[19:39] <Kilos> inetpro  
[19:40] <inetpro> ai!
[19:40] <Kilos> when reviewing a proposal do you just look at the code
[19:40] <Kilos> or actually run is so you see pics
[19:40] <Kilos> run it
[19:42] <Kilos> inetpro  ^^
[19:43] <Kilos> uh oh
[19:44] <magespawn> i have just set an ec2 instance running ubuntu though
[19:44] <Kilos> he broke something
[19:45] <Kilos> so then you are winning
[19:47] <magespawn> set up
[19:48] <Kilos> is that more than you could do yesterday
[19:52] <inetpro> magespawn: nice!
[19:52] <inetpro> magespawn: how much you paying for that?
[19:53] <magespawn> i am on the free tier for now
[19:55] <magespawn> http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/
[19:56] <inetpro> magespawn: sounds interesting
[19:56]  * inetpro needs to try that
[19:56] <inetpro> where do I go?
[19:56] <inetpro> oh
[20:00] <magespawn> very easy to do the basic setup
[20:02] <magespawn> RTFS, lol
[20:03] <Kilos> rofl
[20:03] <Kilos> i enjoyed that
[20:04] <magespawn> you could try it too, if you want Kilos 
[20:05] <Kilos> for one year
[20:05] <Kilos> then lose everything
[20:06] <inetpro> hmm...
[20:07] <Kilos> all i want is a host site for QA
[20:10] <magespawn> or pay at the end of the year
[20:11] <Kilos> na
[20:11] <magespawn> i have an idea to make this a paying proposition, if it works
[20:11] <Kilos> i can run it here free for ever only then it goes to bed when id o or loadsheeding decides
[20:12] <Kilos> good luck then magespawn  
[20:19] <Kilos> i go crash now guys
[20:19] <Kilos> hold the fort
[20:19] <Kilos> Maaz  watch them
[20:20] <Maaz> oh Kilos I will watch them no problem, but you better be back soon!
[20:20] <magespawn> good night Kilos 
[20:20] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[20:20] <inetpro> hmm...
[20:20] <inetpro> good night oom
[20:20] <Kilos> wat nou
[20:20] <Kilos> lol
[20:20] <Kilos> jy ook boetie
[20:25] <inetpro> magespawn: hmm... but they need payment info up front?
[20:29] <magespawn> yes that is in case you go over board, then will then charge you
[20:32] <magespawn> but you can set an alert so that you do not exceed the free usage
[20:34] <inetpro> ah
[21:55] <inetpro> magespawn: still playing around?
[21:56] <hibana> hello magespawn 
[21:57]  * hibana greeting you from Ireland
[21:57] <hibana> but looks like everyone is asleep already
[21:58] <hibana> good night
[22:00] <inetpro> fp
[22:27] <magespawn> fp?
[22:30] <magespawn> i am off to bed good night