[01:46] <craigbass76> I've got Window buttons on a panel.  Is there any way to drag these windows around so that they're in a different order?
[02:07] <xangua> yes, but you need to change the windows list plugin settings
[02:14] <craigbass76> Is this plugin already installed?
[02:14] <xangua> it's the windows list
[02:14] <xangua> right clic, properties
[02:15] <craigbass76> xangua, that was stupid...  :P
[02:15] <craigbass76> Thanks for showing me.
[02:15] <craigbass76> Definitely a facepalm moment...
[05:39] <gnumbknuts>  Thunar "delete" function ,  how can I disable it from both the right-click and the delete key ?
[09:46] <max12345> hello, should I/do I have to make a backup before upgrading from 14.04 to 14.10?
[09:54] <elfy> max12345: I would. I'd also think about whether I wanted to install something that goes EOL in 3 months
[09:55] <max12345> ok then I'll just wait. Thanks elfy !
[09:56] <elfy> max12345: well you've the option of upgrading 14.10 now and then to 15.04 in a month, or the next LTS straight upgrade route is 16.04
[09:58] <elfy> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS gives you an idea of how the releases overlap
[09:59] <elfy> also bear in mind that while Ubuntu support for 5 years typically, we don't
[10:02] <max12345> I already had the case of something not updating because LTS that would have needed to update so I'm ok with shorter support cycles
[10:02] <elfy> ok
[10:03] <elfy> just giving you the info where I can :)
[10:03] <max12345> yes I appreciate it :)
[16:16] <tiyteeze> hey
[16:16] <tiyteeze> need help
[20:31] <andyfied> i think that person needed help
[20:35] <krytarik> andyfied: Left half a minute later though.
[20:38] <andyfied> and now we will never know what is issue was :(
[20:38] <knome> it's their loss really
[20:39] <andyfied> yeah, i don't care
[22:23] <xubuntu35w> I'm on Xubuntu 14.10. I'm installing Dropbox and there are two downloads available: 1)Ubuntu (deb) 2)Debian (deb). I was going to choose #2. Is that the way to go or could I choose either or should I choose #1?
[22:24] <genii> If you're running an OS whose last 5 letters are buntu then choose 1
[22:26] <xubuntu35w> OK. Since it's Xu-buntu then it's #1. But on my other computer I chose the Debian and it seems to work properly. Should I uninstall it and choose the Ubuntu deb?
[22:29] <Unit193> You can also install nautilus-dropbox, it installs dropbox and you don't even need nautilus.
[22:30] <xubuntu35w> Thx but I'm a newbie and I'd really rather just install it from one of these files. I guess if the other Dropbox is working okay (installed via the Debian file)  I should leave well enough alone then, huh?
[22:31] <knome> xubuntu35w, installing a package from the repositories is actually easier and better than to install from those packages
[22:32] <xubuntu35w> Does the Unbuntu Software Center have Dropbox?
[22:33] <xubuntu35w> Ah, it does.
[22:34] <Unit193> There's even a plugin for thunar.
[22:34] <xubuntu35w> So I should just leave the Dropbox (that I think I installed via the Debian deb, not the Ubuntu deb like I should have) on the other computer and install this Dropbox via the Ubuntu Software Center?
[22:35] <knome> that's the recommended whenever possible
[22:35] <Unit193> Sure, that'l do.
[22:35] <knome> *recommended way
[22:35] <xubuntu35w> Can I even uninstall Dropbox?
[22:35] <knome> the things you install from the software center are always uninstallable from the software center
[22:36] <Unit193> If you installed it from a 'deb' file, yes.
[22:36] <xubuntu35w> But I didn't install the first Dropbox from the Software Center. I used a Gdebi installer.
[22:37] <xubuntu35w> So uninstall it from Synaptic Package Manager then?
[22:38] <xubuntu35w> Or should I just leave it since it seems to be working okay?
[22:50] <gnumbknuts> Thunar: "Disk Image Mounter"  right-click menu option , What is the syntax used to execute this operation ? I would like to us it in a bash script .
[23:11] <gnumbknuts> Conversely, when I execute: sudo mount -v -t iso9660 -o loop xubuntu-daily.iso mnt , mount gives a warning: "xubuntu-daily.iso is already associated with /dev/loop0 " .  Thunar then shows the iso being mounted twice.
[23:13] <gnumbknuts> BTW... what is the syntax to u(n)mount that iso ?
[23:39] <clouseau_> I just removed Dropbox from my computer from the Synaptic Package Manager (I'm running xubuntu 14.10). When I put 'dropbox' in the terminal it says: 'dropbox is not currently installed.' And yet, Dropbox is still there and is working and syncing with my other computer. How is this possible?
[23:40] <knome> clouseau_, didn't you say you didn't install dropbox via synaptic?
[23:40] <clouseau_> Yeah. I installed it from a .dev file with Gdebi installer.
[23:40] <clouseau_> deb file
[23:41] <Unit193> dpkg -S `which dropbox`
[23:41] <clouseau_> What do you mean?
[23:43] <clouseau_> After I removed Dropbox from Synaptic, I removed the Dropbox folder from and when I did Dropbox gave me a pop-up saying do you want to "re-link"? I said okay and signed in but there's nothing on the computer so how is it working?
[23:44] <knome> clouseau_, try running the command Unit193 pasted in a terminal
[23:45] <clouseau_> Oh, I didn't realize that was a command. OKay.
[23:45] <Unit193> There's also likely a ~/.dropbox/ and maybe ~/.dropbox-dist/ dirs.
[23:46] <clouseau_> There's no apostrophes in that command, right? So it's:     dpkg -S which dropbox    ?
[23:46] <knome> backticks `
[23:48] <clouseau_> ok
[23:49] <clouseau_> Here's what it said:    dpkg-query: error: --search needs at least one file name pattern argument  Use --help for help about querying packages.
[23:49] <clouseau_> You know, can I just add the Dropbox from the Ubuntu Software Center or is that overkill?
[23:50] <clouseau_> I'm feeling like I'm getting in over my head here.
[23:53] <clouseau_> When I put "dropbox" in the Catfish File Finder (under File System) a ton of stuff comes up.
[23:54] <clouseau_> Think I should just leave it be. It's working. Or should I add Dropbox from the Ubuntu Software Center?