[00:44] <gunndawg> Question before I attempt this. Would installing Synaptic packager manager interfer with Muon?
[00:51] <darthanubis> no
[00:56] <gunndawg> is synaptic the prefered package manager? I'm just not real thrilled with Muon
[01:02] <genii> gunndawg: Muon is what Kubuntu currently ships with, but you can install any package manager you want. I generally just use the command-line
[01:03] <gunndawg> genii: fair enough. Thanks.
[01:03] <genii> np
[01:05] <gunndawg> I went ahead and installed it. Kind of interesting that when I launch synaptic thru the Konsole it opens and uses my current theme, but if I go thru the K Menu and click on the Synaptic icon it opens synaptic with its default white/grayish theme
[01:05] <genii> Sounds like a bug
[01:06] <gunndawg> not a big deal
[01:22] <darthanubis> gunndawg: it's not  abug
[01:23] <gunndawg> it's not? Whats the reason for it? out of curiosity
[01:24] <darthanubis> http://pasteboard.co/2uXCpLHF.png
[01:24] <gunndawg> correct thats what it looks like when I open thru the K-Menu
[01:25] <gunndawg> but if I open thru the TErminal then it fits my theme (dark blue, etc)
[01:25] <gunndawg> all that white that you see is dark blue, the text is teal, etc
[01:25] <darthanubis> When you call synaptic from the menu, it call root. The proper link is not set in the /root dir to allow for gui consistency
[01:25] <gunndawg> ah makes sense
[01:25] <darthanubis> I know, I ran into the same issue
[01:25] <gunndawg> Thanks for the clarification
[01:25] <darthanubis> np
[01:27] <gunndawg> dar
[01:27] <gunndawg> darthanubis: how did you get the Installed, Installed (manual), and Not Installed links on the left
[01:28] <darthanubis> I'm looking for it now
[01:28] <gunndawg> mine just shows categories
[01:28] <gunndawg> games, Development, databases, etc
[01:28] <darthanubis> it has nothing to do with the menu
[01:28] <gunndawg> Would be nice to be able to access that "Installed" section though
[01:28] <darthanubis> call synaptic from the menu and then take a screenshot of it?
[01:30] <gunndawg> http://i.imgur.com/BleYa1j.png
[01:31] <darthanubis> ahh, that's your theming
[01:32] <darthanubis> the window border is using kde, but the them is using gtk
[01:32] <darthanubis> not even gtk3
[01:32] <gunndawg> the theme alone will alter the sub sections inside of a program?
[01:32] <darthanubis> no
[01:32] <darthanubis> well, all that blocky grey
[01:32] <darthanubis> yes
[01:32] <darthanubis> it's be smooth like mine
[01:32] <darthanubis> but not quite, I'm using plasma5
[01:33] <gunndawg> ah ok
[01:33] <gunndawg> I'm using default Kubuntu 14.04 with some ghost themes installed
[01:33] <gunndawg> its mostly all ghost themed
[01:33] <darthanubis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/179322/gtk3-theme-in-kde
[01:33] <darthanubis> sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-oxygen gtk3-engines-oxygen kde-config-gtk
[01:34] <gunndawg> can I carry my current theme over to a gtk3 config?
[01:34] <darthanubis> Install those packages
[01:34] <gunndawg> I quite like the way it looks with the colors and windows, etc
[01:34] <gunndawg> ok
[01:34] <darthanubis> see if that makes the difference you are looking for
[01:36] <gunndawg> the first 2 says I already have up to date
[01:36] <gunndawg> it cant find kde-config-gtk
[01:36] <darthanubis> ok
[01:37] <gunndawg> so i already have gtk3 installed but you say I'm not using it?
[01:37] <gunndawg> I'm still rather new with this, so I wouldnt know one way from the other
[01:38] <darthanubis> I know, I'm looking for a more concise way to direct you
[01:38] <gunndawg> appreciate it
[01:38] <darthanubis> np
[01:38] <darthanubis> https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?67826-GTK-themes-or-QT-themes&highlight=gtk3
[01:38] <darthanubis> chew on that will I look for something else
[01:40] <darthanubis> if you go into system settings >> Application Appearance >> Gtk
[01:40] <gunndawg> yeah
[01:40] <gunndawg> I'm using Oxygen-gtk
[01:40] <darthanubis> Note that most things would be using gtk3, but some still use gtk2, so there are two sections there.
[01:41] <gunndawg> ah ok
[01:41] <gunndawg> so I'm using both gtk2 and 3?
[01:41] <gunndawg> because oxygen-gtk is set in both gtk2 and 3 theme
[01:42] <darthanubis> what are your options there?
[01:42] <gunndawg> For GTK3 I have default, emacs, and Oxygen-gtk
[01:43] <gunndawg> for GTK2 its just default and oxygen-gtk
[01:43] <gunndawg> I'm sorry
[01:43] <gunndawg> for GTK2
[01:43] <darthanubis> ok
[01:43] <gunndawg> Raleigh and oxygen-gtk
[01:44] <gunndawg> Dogs are acting up. Need to step away a few mins. Mind PMing me related info so I can see when I get back in 10 - 15mins? I'd like to fix this. And thanks for the help
[01:44] <darthanubis> sure
[01:45] <gunndawg> much appreciated
[01:45] <darthanubis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/87037/gtk-in-kubuntu-apps-look-bad
[01:45] <darthanubis> p
[01:45] <darthanubis> np
[08:57] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:12] <MoonUnit`> morning
[09:19] <lordievader> Hey MoonUnit`
[09:26] <MoonUnit`> nice, will have to boot into windows to flash a firmware file.
[11:22] <amari> Hi
[11:22] <amari> Is kde5 stable for daily use in Kubuntu 15.04?
[11:37] <MoonUnit`> that would depend on your hardware and use, some of the big problems have been ironed out but still some to go.
[11:37] <MoonUnit`> current bug list http://tinyurl.com/kh2pxbb
[11:38] <MoonUnit`> only real problem for me is not being able to logout, shutdown and reboot properly.
[11:38] <lordievader> I'd wait at least till it is released.
[11:38] <lordievader> MoonUnit`: Even after the updates of yesterday?
[11:39] <MoonUnit`> yup, when i logout the desktop goes black apart from programs on the desktop are mostly still on screen.
[11:40] <MoonUnit`> pidgin, thunderbird, firefox and conky
[11:40] <lordievader> Hmm, I thought that got fixed with yesterday's updates.
[11:40] <xen> yo
[11:42] <MoonUnit`> i'll have to try installing to a different drive and see if it works ok, maybe something i've done/installed is breaking something.
[11:44] <lordievader> o/
[11:48] <soydemadrid> hi can anyone please help. I added a customised xorg.conf file to try get a second display to work and ended up with just a black screen when kubuntu booted. I can get the command line with alt f2 so I deleted the xorg.conf but still get a black screen. Does anyone know how I can reset my displays and re-autodetect them please?
[11:48] <lordievader> soydemadrid: What graphics card and driver are you rocking?
[11:49] <soydemadrid> lordievader: Nvidia but not sure what the card is
[11:49] <lordievader> soydemadrid: Do you have a shell?
[11:49] <soydemadrid> lordievader: yes got the shell and already did RM on the xorg file but it hasn't helped...
[11:50] <lordievader> soydemadrid: What is the output of 'lspci -k|grep -A2 VGA'?
[11:51] <soydemadrid> lordievader: that gives me Nvidia GF108 GeForce GT 630
[11:51] <soydemadrid> lordievader: (rev a1)
[11:52] <lordievader> That's all? No driver?
[11:53] <soydemadrid> lordievader: sorry yes driver just says nvidia
[11:53] <soydemadrid> lordievader: "Kernel driver in use: nvidia"
[11:53] <lordievader> Ah, good. What does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say?
[11:53] <lordievader> !paste
[11:57] <soydemadrid> lordievader: I'm not sure how to show you it as I'm talking to you on a laptop, but the other computer has no GUI anymore. I've opened it in Nano and there is 600 lines. The bottom few lines say "NVIDIA(GPU-0): Unable to read EDID for display device CRT-1
[11:57] <lordievader> soydemadrid: Does it have an active internet connection?
[11:57] <soydemadrid> lordievader: yes
[11:58] <lordievader> soydemadrid: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:58] <soydemadrid> lordievader: thanks! doing it now
[12:00] <soydemadrid> lordievader: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10808164
[12:02] <MoonUnit`> kde also saves it's monitor setup to .local/share/kscreen/ you may need to clean it out too if you still have problems.
[12:04] <lordievader> soydemadrid: You have two displays attached?
[12:04] <soydemadrid> MoonUnit`: ok I've rm-ed the Kscreen directory too but it still gives a black screen on login...
[12:04] <soydemadrid> lordievader: yes two displays
[12:04] <lordievader> soydemadrid: Does it work when you disconnect crt-0?
[12:05] <MoonUnit`> maybe clean out the .cache folder?
[12:05] <soydemadrid> lordievader: they were working great. But the CRT-1 display was wrong resolution so I added a few lines to xorg and then when rebooted had a black screen. so i deleted xorg.conf but still stuck with black screen
[12:06] <soydemadrid> lordievader: ok disconnected the second screen and rebooting to see if it works
[12:07] <lordievader> Yes, one of the two doesn't output EDID.
[12:08] <soydemadrid> lordievader: just rebooted and i have a mouse pointer but black screen and blank empty task/window panel at bottom. can't click or do anything...
[12:08] <soydemadrid> lordievader: that's with just one screen plugged in...
[12:08] <lordievader> Is lightdm setup to do autologin?
[12:09] <soydemadrid> lordievader: yes. but if I restartx and the screen has locked, it lets me login again and the progress bar moves up and I'm just back at a blank screen again.
[12:10] <soydemadrid> lordievader: if I reinstall Kubuntu it will be fine again. but one monitor then has the wrong resolution...
[12:10] <lordievader> Could you disable the autologin?
[12:11] <soydemadrid> lordievader: it doesn't seem to be down to that. As if I reinstall it works ok, I just reinstalled this morning. it is when I try change the display resolution of the second screen it then breaks both of them
[12:11] <soydemadrid> lordievader: is there a way to just go back to as if you've first installed kubuntu and have it redetect the displays?
[12:11] <lordievader> What I want to know if lightdm is shown correctly. From there we can pin point the problem better.
[12:12] <soydemadrid> lordievader: yes that will show fine. it is once I get in to the desktop that is when I get a black background instead of wallpaper. I get the panel at the bottom but nothing on it and a mouse pointer
[12:13] <lordievader> Right, make a new user and see if that one has the same problem.
[12:13] <soydemadrid> i can also press alt and f2 and the top panel program runner appears but if i type anything in there nothing comes up and i can't launch anything
[12:13] <soydemadrid> lordievader: how do i make a new user though now I've logged in?
[12:14] <lordievader> soydemadrid: Run useradd or adduser in your shell. (I allways forget which one was the frontend)
[12:14] <soydemadrid> lordievader: ok what I'll do is I'll just reinstall kubuntu again
[12:14] <MoonUnit`> have you tried renaming .cache and restarting, solved most of my black screen problems.
[12:15] <soydemadrid> lordievader: then maybe you can help me get the right resolution on second screen once everything is back how it was?
[12:15] <lordievader> soydemadrid: Hmpf, that is one way to go about it.
[12:16] <soydemadrid> lordievader: well i have a clean install anyway just about, it was only when i tried to get my second monitor to the right res that the problem occured.
[12:33] <soydemadrid> lordievader: ok i've reinstalled and using nvidia 346.59 recommended latest driver - all works well but my second display is not 2048x1152 like it should be. both monitors are same type and should use that display but the second one is just 1024x968 or something like that...
[12:35] <lordievader> soydemadrid: Allright, what does xrandr say?
[12:37] <soydemadrid> lordievader: xrandr says the first one is 2048x1152 but the second one is 1024x768
[12:39] <lordievader> soydemadrid: I'd like to see the full output.
[12:40] <soydemadrid> lordievader: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10808405
[12:42] <lordievader> soydemadrid: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/guerrilla-tactics-force-screen-mode-ubuntu
[13:56] <jonah> hi is anyone any good with Display settings or xorg.conf? I'm having really bad problems. I have two Samsung Syncmaster 2343nw monitors. one is connected via DVI and the other VGA as I have two ports on my graphics card. But the VGA connected one isn't in 2048x1152 resolution as it should be... I've tried adding it in to xorg.conf but it seems to break things. Can anyone help at all?
[13:58] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:58] <lordievader> jonah: Are you the soydemadrid of earlier?
[13:58] <jonah> lordievader: Hi yes that is right! But I'm now on the main computer, not the laptop
[13:59] <jonah> lordievader: I tried your Bruteforce link but couldn't get it working.
[13:59] <lordievader> jonah: Have you looked at the link I gave you?
[13:59] <jonah> lordievader: yeah, I just got an error message.
[13:59] <lordievader> jonah: Could you specify that in more detail>
[13:59] <jonah> lordievader: the weird thing is that I used to have to add  ModeLine "2048x1152_60.00_rb" 156.750 2048 2096 2128 2208 1152 1155 1160 1185 +hsync -vsync
[13:59] <jonah> lordievader: to my xorg.conf to get the second screen to work
[14:00] <jonah> lordievader: but when i do that now in Kubuntu 15.04 I just get the black screen again...
[14:01] <jonah> lordievader: https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?64421-Can-t-get-two-Samsung-SyncMaster-2343nw-monitors-to-display-2048x1152-dual-screen
[14:01] <jonah> lordievader: bottom of that post was last time I installed the previous Kubuntu. at the bottom I posted that I managed to fix it
[14:02] <jonah> lordievader: but adding that line in this time just breaks plasma and things go black again. plus I'm not sure if I'm adding it in the right place...
[14:02] <lordievader> jonah: The first step fails.
[14:02] <lordievader> jonah: What happens when you do that without sudo?
[14:03] <lordievader> Also, do the cvt yourself. I get different values here.
[14:04] <jonah> lordievader: hi sorry what do you mean do the CVT yourself? How do I do this?
[14:04] <lordievader> jonah: The very first step out of the link I gave you.
[14:04] <lordievader> http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/guerrilla-tactics-force-screen-mode-ubuntu
[14:05] <lordievader> jonah: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/guerrilla-tactics-force-screen-mode-ubuntu
[14:06] <jonah> lordievader: the first step doesn't show my screen resolution though on the output?
[14:07] <lordievader> jonah: With the first step I ment "cvt 1280 1024 60" as show on the web site.
[14:12] <jonah> lordievader: Hi I've got the second monitor now into that resolution! it works. but how do I then keep it that way? My xorg file looks a lot different to his example due to being a twinview setup...
[14:18] <donniezazen> Kamoso freezes as soon as you hit video recording button.
[14:46] <xennex81> so is vivid vervet moved to "udev" for mtab?
[14:46] <xennex81> utab I mean
[14:47] <MoonUnit`> shame, made a video wallpaper but the cpu usage was too high, plasmashell 60%
[14:49] <xennex81> :)
[17:45] <victor__> hello!
[19:13] <darthanubis> gunndawg: you get your theme sorted?
[22:31] <gunndawg> 0/
[22:59] <gunndawg> darthanubis: 0/