| ianorlin | yes rexus | 00:09 |
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| rexus | thanks ianorlin. Actually I have both lubuntu 14.04 and 14.10 running on VM right now | 00:26 |
| rexus | My intention is basically to get rid of NetworkManager and configure the network manually as I have always done in RHEL | 00:26 |
| rexus | but the result for "service --status-all" command is totally different than in RHEL | 00:27 |
| rexus | and strangely, in 14.04, when I run "service --status-all" I did not see NetworkManager service running | 00:28 |
| rexus | however, "service network-manager status" show that it is running. | 00:29 |
| rexus | nevermind, I think the best way is to use the "initctl list" command | 00:41 |
| holstein | rexus: why not just run RHEL? | 02:20 |
| rexus | holstein, because I want to learn Ubuntu as well | 02:48 |
| rexus | don't want to limit myself to just single distro | 02:48 |
| holstein | why not just use the included ubuntu tools,then? | 02:49 |
| rexus | and lubuntu seems to be a good option so far because of its lightweight nature. | 02:49 |
| holstein | whats the goal? maybe there is a simpler way to get where you are going... | 02:49 |
| rexus | the goal is basically just understanding how it works without the network manager | 02:50 |
| rexus | but I just found out that there's this nmclient, I probably need to look at that one as well | 02:50 |
| holstein | typically, it doenst | 02:51 |
| holstein | the desktop workflow of lubuntu, and most ubuntu's use the network manager by default | 02:51 |
| holstein | there are many other ways to do it, and quite a few other tools, but, i dont understand the goal of why you are wanting to use another tool. .what are you trying to implement that you cant with the network manager? | 02:52 |
| rexus | well, this is basically based on the experience I had from the RHEL side. My Sysadmin in the company never configure NetworkManager. So, I figured that the same thing would apply as well in lubuntu | 02:53 |
| holstein | sure, but, you are wanting to learn ubuntu/lubuntu, right? if thats the only goal, then use the include tool | 02:53 |
| holstein | included* | 02:54 |
| holstein | if you have something you are trying to do that you cant do in the network manager, then, we can likely find a nice way to address whatever that is.. | 02:54 |
| rexus | alright.. | 02:54 |
| rexus | that make sense.. | 02:55 |
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| rexuss | Hi, if I just made a change on the network configuration, how do I restart the network using initctl command? | 06:23 |
| genii | Use instead sudo service networking restart | 06:26 |
| mouseover | Googling suggest that getting wireless to work on Broadcom cards requires another package ( bcmwl-kernel-source ). But the page here seems dead? http://packages.ubuntu.com/utopic/bcmwl-kernel-source | 09:15 |
| Unit193 | !b43 | 09:20 |
| ubottu | Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx | 09:20 |
| Unit193 | Depends on the card. | 09:20 |
| mouseover | How do I know which packages are found on the Lubuntu install CD? | 09:31 |
| rexuss | hi all, I was reading this documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers . it was saying that Systemd runs with PID 1 as /sbin/init and Upstart runs with PID 1 as /sbin/upstart. | 11:20 |
| rexuss | I did "ps -f -p 1" and I'm getting /sbin/init so it means, my system which is lubuntu 14.10 is already using Systemd? | 11:21 |
| Unit193 | If you read the rest, it says if you have systemd-sysv installed... | 11:22 |
| Unit193 | ls -lh /sbin/init or dpkg -S /sbin/init | 11:22 |
| rexuss | gosh, I forgot to read that Vivid Vervet part.. | 11:23 |
| Unit193 | :D | 11:24 |
| rexuss | and yeah, /sbin/init in my system is a symlink to upstart | 11:24 |
| Unit193 | Mhmm, don't think you can even install systemd-sysv. | 11:24 |
| rexuss | will lubuntu come out with the 15.04? | 11:25 |
| Unit193 | Yep, already defaults to systemd too. | 11:25 |
| rexuss | Do you think there's still a point in learning upstart then? | 11:26 |
| rexuss | I mean, I have zero knowledge of upstart | 11:26 |
| rexuss | I just knew that ubuntu is using upstart earlier and the rest of the other distro are using Systemd | 11:26 |
| Unit193 | Depends on if you have any 14.04 servers, but otherwise likely not. It is nice though. | 11:27 |
| Unit193 | systemd is what Ubuntu uses in 15.04 and up. | 11:27 |
| rexuss | well, I'm using lubuntu for my VM | 11:27 |
| rexuss | the playground type of VM which will be reinstalled with a new one every time there's a new release | 11:28 |
| rexuss | then I guess I'll start with Systemd then.. | 11:28 |
| rexuss | Is it possible to rename a volume group and logical volume if it is used by the root partition? | 11:46 |
| rexuss | nevermind, just tried it and it worked on the fly :) | 11:51 |
| rexuss | but, I just think of it again, I guess I need to change it in the fstab as well right? | 11:52 |
| Unit193 | Check crypttab too. | 11:53 |
| rexuss | I don't have /etc/crypttab | 11:54 |
| rexuss | Unit193, it means I need to change my fstab manually right? | 11:55 |
| rexuss | it seems to me that it is better if the fstab is using the UUID, so if I change it to something else, at least the UUID would still be the same. Is this correct? | 11:57 |
| Unit193 | UUID would remain. | 11:58 |
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| lastopier | hi, is it possible to get a fancy coloured terminal like in ubunut? I mostly mean having links etc highlighted in different colour; thanks | 14:47 |
| choki | damn, he left | 16:20 |
| aladiah | what it is it the normal path after Libre Office install to reach Desktop-Integration sub folder directory ?= | 17:20 |
| choki | aladiah: idk what u mean :D | 17:21 |
| aladiah | cd Desktop-integration ?choki | 17:22 |
| aladiah | choki : CD desktop-integration ? | 17:22 |
| aladiah | humm this dont work | 17:22 |
| aladiah | where is the Libre-office directory ? | 17:23 |
| aladiah | inside which folder ? | 17:23 |
| choki | aladiah: i would guess somewhere in /usr/share | 17:26 |
| aladiah | ok lets rty | 17:26 |
| choki | aladiah: or just use the command "locate libre" | 17:27 |
| choki | and u get any folder with libre in :D | 17:27 |
| aladiah | choki : you are right . ite there , thanks | 17:28 |
| choki | aladiah: what do u want to do? | 17:31 |
| aladiah | choki : i want a go inside Desktop-integration sub folder that usually is inside DEB to execute this command sudo dpkg -i *.deb because the program shortcuts still don't appear in the menu | 17:34 |
| aladiah | choki : inside i cant find desktop-integration folder http://paste.ubuntu.com/10809883/ do you know a way find directorys in Lubuntu ? | 17:36 |
| aladiah | choki : something like locate desktop-integration will work ? | 17:37 |
| choki | i still dont know what desktop-integration u mean with :D | 17:37 |
| choki | are u looking for the shortcuts to open libre office? | 17:37 |
| aladiah | i want a go inside Desktop-integration sub folder that usually is inside DEB to execute this command sudo dpkg -i *.deb because the program shortcuts still don't appear in the menu | 17:38 |
| aladiah | i want to make shortcuts in menu | 17:38 |
| choki | you mean the "start" menu? why dont they appear in there? | 17:40 |
| choki | if u install libre office, they are in there by default | 17:40 |
| choki | if not u may re-install libreoffice then or you may take a look into /usr/share/applications/ | 17:41 |
| aladiah | YES | 17:42 |
| aladiah | choki iam following this guide : http://www.libre-software.net/how-to-install-libreoffice-on-ubuntu-linux-mint | 17:43 |
| aladiah | choki : i reach to this manual part Move to the “desktop-integration” subdirectory and install the desktop-integration package: cd desktop-integration | 17:44 |
| aladiah | is the end final part | 17:44 |
| choki | aladiah: ugh, why dont you use a ppa? it is much easier. like http://askubuntu.com/questions/564610/how-to-install-libreoffice-4-4-0-in-ubuntu/579643#579643 | 17:45 |
| aladiah | The stupid who writes that sheet forgot to specify the complete path | 17:45 |
| aladiah | because ial almost done | 17:45 |
| aladiah | chocki iam almost done, the only thing is this . | 17:45 |
| choki | lol, i would not hassle with them. just go with ppa and also dont forget to install libreoffice-gtk | 17:45 |
| aladiah | Choki: you or someone know how to search this folder ? | 17:46 |
| aladiah | command line . . explorator . . something , iam newby | 17:46 |
| choki | aladiah: on which step u are now? | 17:47 |
| aladiah | Desktop-integration | 17:47 |
| aladiah | i need to go to desktop-integration folder | 17:47 |
| aladiah | look simple doesnit ? | 17:47 |
| aladiah | lolol | 17:47 |
| aladiah | where is it ? | 17:47 |
| choki | aladiah: and where is your libre office folder in dowloads? | 17:47 |
| choki | if he means subfolder i guess it is in the downloads folder of libreoffice | 17:48 |
| choki | there has to be a desktop integration folder then | 17:48 |
| aladiah | no the folder is full of debs files | 17:48 |
| aladiah | i already decompressed it | 17:48 |
| aladiah | but i dont know to where | 17:48 |
| choki | aladiah: you may then look for the folder with "locate desktop-integration" | 17:48 |
| aladiah | sudo | 17:48 |
| aladiah | sudo locate ..? | 17:49 |
| choki | no | 17:49 |
| aladiah | in console ? | 17:49 |
| choki | yeah | 17:49 |
| aladiah | ĺets try | 17:49 |
| choki | w | 17:49 |
| aladiah | choki : results for locate desktop.integration http://paste.ubuntu.com/10809990/ | 17:50 |
| choki | aladiah: then you dont have such folder | 17:51 |
| aladiah | could be in portuguese ? | 17:51 |
| choki | i dont think so xD | 17:52 |
| aladiah | choki how to remove all this instalation and start brand new ? | 17:53 |
| aladiah | i want portuguese version | 17:53 |
| aladiah | with ortography correcto all in portuguse . . | 17:54 |
| choki | aladiah: just remove the files u downloaded and go with the link i posted | 17:54 |
| choki | and install language files later if u need | 17:54 |
| aladiah | ok lets try | 17:55 |
| choki | after u installed also install this: libreoffice-l10n-pt libreoffice-gtk | 17:56 |
| aladiah | Choky you sure you dont know how to create menu sort cut ? | 17:56 |
| aladiah | Choky you sure you dont know how to create menu short cut ? | 17:56 |
| choki | aladiah: i do but i always prefer ppa before i do all that hassle myself :D | 17:56 |
| aladiah | because i already have all installed | 17:57 |
| aladiah | i just need the shrot cut | 17:57 |
| choki | i would have to take a look into the installed folder to know how to create the shortcut | 17:58 |
| aladiah | choki i did sudo apt-get remove libreoffice4.4* | 18:03 |
| aladiah | now i will install brand new | 18:03 |
| choki | coool :D | 18:03 |
| choki | libreoffice 4.4 looks nice with new icons and design! | 18:03 |
| choki | still no ribbon but okey :D | 18:04 |
| aladiah | ribbon ? what is this ? | 18:04 |
| choki | word | 18:06 |
| choki | ui | 18:06 |
| aladiah | Chuki it dont works for me i did sudo apt-add-repository ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-4-4 http://paste.ubuntu.com/10810139/ | 18:13 |
| choki | aladiah: u wrote upgrade instead of update | 18:13 |
| choki | it is not sudo apt-get upgrade | 18:13 |
| choki | it is sudo apt-get update | 18:13 |
| aladiah | i did that | 18:14 |
| choki | no, the 2nd command is wrong | 18:14 |
| aladiah | http://paste.ubuntu.com/10810139/ | 18:14 |
| choki | oh | 18:14 |
| choki | aladiah: but not dist-upgrade | 18:14 |
| aladiah | first of all i should do sudo apt-get install libreoffice doesnit ? | 18:15 |
| aladiah | because i have no version at this time | 18:15 |
| aladiah | right ? | 18:15 |
| choki | no | 18:16 |
| aladiah | lets start ffrom begining | 18:16 |
| choki | u have to add the ppa first what u did, then sudo apt-get update and then dist upgrade | 18:16 |
| choki | xD | 18:16 |
| choki | just do now: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 18:16 |
| choki | idk xD | 18:17 |
| choki | good luck :D | 18:17 |
| aladiah | choki : step by step i did sudo apt-add-repository ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-4-4 this is normal http://paste.ubuntu.com/10810203/ | 18:18 |
| aladiah | it tells it will release 200 mb byt i think it dont | 18:19 |
| aladiah | choki : i could go one .. ? | 18:20 |
| choki | idk | 18:20 |
| choki | sorry :D | 18:20 |
| aladiah | i did it i think i dont have libre oofice yet . what up » | 18:21 |
| aladiah | i should reboot to see it ? | 18:22 |
| aladiah | idk ? choki ?» | 18:24 |
| choki | lol | 18:27 |
| aladiah | choki it dont work for me | 18:28 |
| choki | aladiah: i dont know waht u did, it could be so easy :D | 18:28 |
| aladiah | choki iam 64 bit version, is because that ? | 18:28 |
| choki | no | 18:28 |
| aladiah | i did exactly whats there | 18:28 |
| aladiah | copy past | 18:28 |
| aladiah | with out error possibiility | 18:28 |
| choki | idk then :D | 18:30 |
| aladiah | choki : i will try this one here http://www.edivaldobrito.com.br/libreoffice-4-4-1-no-linux/ | 18:32 |
| position | which version of lubuntu is lts? | 19:37 |
| position | lubuntu 15.04 will be the new lts? | 19:38 |
| krytarik | position: Nope - current is 14.04, next will be 16.04. | 19:38 |
| position | ok thanks | 19:39 |
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