[00:09] <ianorlin> yes rexus
[00:26] <rexus> thanks ianorlin. Actually I have both lubuntu 14.04 and 14.10 running on VM right now
[00:26] <rexus> My intention is basically to get rid of NetworkManager and configure the network manually as I have always done in RHEL
[00:27] <rexus> but the result for "service --status-all" command is totally different than in RHEL
[00:28] <rexus> and strangely, in 14.04, when I run "service --status-all" I did not see NetworkManager service running
[00:29] <rexus> however, "service network-manager status" show that it is running.
[00:41] <rexus> nevermind, I think the best way is to use the "initctl list" command
[02:20] <holstein> rexus: why not just run RHEL?
[02:48] <rexus> holstein, because I want to learn Ubuntu as well
[02:48] <rexus> don't want to limit myself to just single distro
[02:49] <holstein> why not just use the included ubuntu tools,then?
[02:49] <rexus> and lubuntu seems to be a good option so far because of its lightweight nature.
[02:49] <holstein> whats the goal? maybe there is a simpler way to get where you are going...
[02:50] <rexus> the goal is basically just understanding how it works without the network manager
[02:50] <rexus> but I just found out that there's this nmclient, I probably need to look at that one as well
[02:51] <holstein> typically, it doenst
[02:51] <holstein> the desktop workflow of lubuntu, and most ubuntu's use the network manager by default
[02:52] <holstein> there are many other ways to do it, and quite a few other tools, but, i dont understand the goal of why you are wanting to use another tool. .what are you trying to implement that you cant with the network manager?
[02:53] <rexus> well, this is basically based on the experience I had from the RHEL side. My Sysadmin in the company never configure NetworkManager. So, I figured that the same thing would apply as well in lubuntu
[02:53] <holstein> sure, but, you are wanting to learn ubuntu/lubuntu, right? if thats the only goal, then use the include tool
[02:54] <holstein> included*
[02:54] <holstein> if you have something you are trying to do that you cant do in the network manager, then, we can likely find a nice way to address whatever that is..
[02:54] <rexus> alright..
[02:55] <rexus> that make sense..
[06:23] <rexuss> Hi, if I just made a change on the network configuration, how do I restart the network using initctl command?
[06:26] <genii> Use instead sudo service networking restart
[09:15] <mouseover> Googling suggest that getting wireless to work on Broadcom cards requires another package ( bcmwl-kernel-source ). But the page here seems dead? http://packages.ubuntu.com/utopic/bcmwl-kernel-source
[09:20] <Unit193> !b43
[09:20] <Unit193> Depends on the card.
[09:31] <mouseover> How do I know which packages are found on the Lubuntu  install CD?
[11:20] <rexuss> hi all, I was reading this documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers . it was saying that Systemd runs with PID 1 as /sbin/init and Upstart runs with PID 1 as /sbin/upstart.
[11:21] <rexuss> I did "ps -f -p 1" and I'm getting /sbin/init  so it means, my system which is lubuntu 14.10 is already using Systemd?
[11:22] <Unit193> If you read the rest, it says if you have systemd-sysv installed...
[11:22] <Unit193> ls -lh /sbin/init  or  dpkg -S /sbin/init
[11:23] <rexuss> gosh, I forgot to read that Vivid Vervet part..
[11:24] <Unit193> :D
[11:24] <rexuss> and yeah, /sbin/init in my system is a symlink to upstart
[11:24] <Unit193> Mhmm, don't think you can even install systemd-sysv.
[11:25] <rexuss> will lubuntu come out with the 15.04?
[11:25] <Unit193> Yep, already defaults to systemd too.
[11:26] <rexuss> Do you think there's still a point in learning upstart then?
[11:26] <rexuss> I mean, I have zero knowledge of upstart
[11:26] <rexuss> I just knew that ubuntu is using upstart earlier and the rest of the other distro are using Systemd
[11:27] <Unit193> Depends on if you have any 14.04 servers, but otherwise likely not.  It is nice though.
[11:27] <Unit193> systemd is what Ubuntu uses in 15.04 and up.
[11:27] <rexuss> well, I'm using lubuntu for my VM
[11:28] <rexuss> the playground type of VM which will be reinstalled with a new one every time there's a new release
[11:28] <rexuss> then I guess I'll start with Systemd then..
[11:46] <rexuss> Is it possible to rename a volume group and logical volume if it is used by the root partition?
[11:51] <rexuss> nevermind, just tried it and it worked on the fly :)
[11:52] <rexuss> but, I just think of it again, I guess I need to change it in the fstab as well right?
[11:53] <Unit193> Check crypttab too.
[11:54] <rexuss> I don't have /etc/crypttab
[11:55] <rexuss> Unit193, it means I need to change my fstab manually right?
[11:57] <rexuss> it seems to me that it is better if the fstab is using the UUID, so if I change it to something else, at least the UUID would still be the same. Is this correct?
[11:58] <Unit193> UUID would remain.
[14:47] <lastopier> hi, is it possible to get a fancy coloured terminal like in ubunut? I mostly mean having links etc highlighted in different colour; thanks
[16:20] <choki> damn, he left
[17:20] <aladiah> what it is it  the normal path after Libre Office install to reach Desktop-Integration  sub folder directory ?=
[17:21] <choki> aladiah: idk what u mean :D
[17:22] <aladiah> cd Desktop-integration ?choki
[17:22] <aladiah> choki : CD desktop-integration ?
[17:22] <aladiah> humm this dont work
[17:23] <aladiah> where is the Libre-office directory ?
[17:23] <aladiah> inside which folder ?
[17:26] <choki> aladiah: i would guess somewhere in /usr/share
[17:26] <aladiah> ok lets rty
[17:27] <choki> aladiah: or just use the command "locate libre"
[17:27] <choki> and u get any folder with libre in :D
[17:28] <aladiah> choki : you are right . ite there , thanks
[17:31] <choki> aladiah: what do u want to do?
[17:34] <aladiah> choki : i want a go inside Desktop-integration sub folder that usually is inside DEB to execute this command sudo dpkg -i *.deb  because  the program shortcuts still don't appear in the menu
[17:36] <aladiah> choki : inside i cant find desktop-integration folder http://paste.ubuntu.com/10809883/    do you know a way find directorys in Lubuntu ?
[17:37] <aladiah> choki : something like locate desktop-integration will work ?
[17:37] <choki> i still dont know what desktop-integration u mean with :D
[17:37] <choki> are u looking for the shortcuts to open libre office?
[17:38] <aladiah>  i want a go inside Desktop-integration sub folder that usually is inside DEB to execute this command sudo dpkg -i *.deb  because  the program shortcuts still don't appear in the menu
[17:38] <aladiah> i want to make shortcuts in menu
[17:40] <choki> you mean the "start" menu? why dont they appear in there?
[17:40] <choki> if u install libre office, they are in there by default
[17:41] <choki> if not u may re-install libreoffice then or you may take a look into /usr/share/applications/
[17:42] <aladiah> YES
[17:43] <aladiah> choki iam following this guide : http://www.libre-software.net/how-to-install-libreoffice-on-ubuntu-linux-mint
[17:44] <aladiah> choki : i reach to this manual part Move to the “desktop-integration” subdirectory and install the desktop-integration package: cd desktop-integration
[17:44] <aladiah> is the end final part
[17:45] <choki> aladiah: ugh, why dont you use a ppa? it is much easier. like http://askubuntu.com/questions/564610/how-to-install-libreoffice-4-4-0-in-ubuntu/579643#579643
[17:45] <aladiah> The stupid who  writes that sheet forgot to specify  the complete path
[17:45] <aladiah> because ial almost done
[17:45] <aladiah> chocki iam almost done, the only thing is this .
[17:45] <choki> lol, i would not hassle with them. just go with ppa and also dont forget to install libreoffice-gtk
[17:46] <aladiah> Choki: you or someone know how to search this folder ?
[17:46] <aladiah> command line . . explorator . . something , iam newby
[17:47] <choki> aladiah: on which step u are now?
[17:47] <aladiah> Desktop-integration
[17:47] <aladiah> i need to go to desktop-integration folder
[17:47] <aladiah> look simple doesnit ?
[17:47] <aladiah> lolol
[17:47] <aladiah> where is it ?
[17:47] <choki> aladiah: and where is your libre office folder in dowloads?
[17:48] <choki> if he means subfolder i guess it is in the downloads folder of libreoffice
[17:48] <choki> there has to be a desktop integration folder then
[17:48] <aladiah> no the folder is full of debs files
[17:48] <aladiah> i already decompressed it
[17:48] <aladiah> but i dont know to where
[17:48] <choki> aladiah: you may then look for the folder with "locate desktop-integration"
[17:48] <aladiah> sudo
[17:49] <aladiah> sudo locate ..?
[17:49] <choki> no
[17:49] <aladiah> in console ?
[17:49] <choki> yeah
[17:49] <aladiah> ĺets try
[17:49] <choki> w
[17:50] <aladiah> choki : results for locate desktop.integration   http://paste.ubuntu.com/10809990/
[17:51] <choki> aladiah: then you dont have such folder
[17:51] <aladiah> could be in portuguese ?
[17:52] <choki> i dont think so xD
[17:53] <aladiah> choki how to remove all this instalation and start brand new ?
[17:53] <aladiah> i want portuguese version
[17:54] <aladiah> with ortography correcto all in portuguse . .
[17:54] <choki> aladiah: just remove the files u downloaded and go with the link i posted
[17:54] <choki> and install language files later if u need
[17:55] <aladiah> ok lets try
[17:56] <choki> after u installed also install this: libreoffice-l10n-pt libreoffice-gtk
[17:56] <aladiah> Choky you sure you dont know how to create menu sort cut ?
[17:56] <aladiah> Choky you sure you dont know how to create menu short cut ?
[17:56] <choki> aladiah: i do but i always prefer ppa before i do all that hassle myself :D
[17:57] <aladiah> because i already have all installed
[17:57] <aladiah> i just need the shrot cut
[17:58] <choki> i would have to take a look into the installed folder to know how to create the shortcut
[18:03] <aladiah> choki i did sudo apt-get remove libreoffice4.4*
[18:03] <aladiah> now i will install brand new
[18:03] <choki> coool :D
[18:03] <choki> libreoffice 4.4 looks nice with new icons and design!
[18:04] <choki> still no ribbon but okey :D
[18:04] <aladiah> ribbon ? what is this ?
[18:06] <choki> word
[18:06] <choki> ui
[18:13] <aladiah> Chuki it dont works for me i did   sudo apt-add-repository ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-4-4                            http://paste.ubuntu.com/10810139/
[18:13] <choki> aladiah: u wrote upgrade instead of update
[18:13] <choki> it is not sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:13] <choki> it is sudo apt-get update
[18:14] <aladiah> i did that
[18:14] <choki> no, the 2nd command is wrong
[18:14] <aladiah>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/10810139/
[18:14] <choki> oh
[18:14] <choki> aladiah: but not dist-upgrade
[18:15] <aladiah> first of all i should do sudo apt-get install libreoffice doesnit ?
[18:15] <aladiah> because i have no version at this time
[18:15] <aladiah> right ?
[18:16] <choki> no
[18:16] <aladiah> lets start ffrom begining
[18:16] <choki> u have to add the ppa first what u did, then sudo apt-get update and then dist upgrade
[18:16] <choki> xD
[18:16] <choki> just do now: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:17] <choki> idk xD
[18:17] <choki> good luck :D
[18:18] <aladiah> choki : step by step  i did sudo apt-add-repository ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-4-4    this is normal  http://paste.ubuntu.com/10810203/
[18:19] <aladiah> it tells it will release 200 mb byt i think it dont
[18:20] <aladiah> choki : i could go one .. ?
[18:20] <choki> idk
[18:20] <choki> sorry :D
[18:21] <aladiah> i did it i think i dont have libre oofice yet . what up »
[18:22] <aladiah> i should reboot to see it ?
[18:24] <aladiah> idk ? choki ?»
[18:27] <choki> lol
[18:28] <aladiah> choki it dont work for me
[18:28] <choki> aladiah: i dont know waht u did, it could be so easy :D
[18:28] <aladiah> choki iam 64 bit version, is because that ?
[18:28] <choki> no
[18:28] <aladiah> i did exactly whats there
[18:28] <aladiah> copy past
[18:28] <aladiah> with out error possibiility
[18:30] <choki> idk then :D
[18:32] <aladiah> choki : i will try this one here  http://www.edivaldobrito.com.br/libreoffice-4-4-1-no-linux/
[19:37] <position> which version of lubuntu is lts?
[19:38] <position> lubuntu 15.04 will be the new lts?
[19:38] <krytarik> position: Nope - current is 14.04, next will be 16.04.
[19:39] <position> ok thanks