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lotuspsychjehello03:20
daftykinsjust to warn you, today's asshat is [Saint]03:20
lotuspsychjeim trying to gather supporters into here for a nice chichat03:20
daftykinsah ok ^_^03:20
lotuspsychjethis is a calm channel, not so crowdy as offtopic03:20
daftykinsi did often think it'd be handy to have a place volunteers could chat03:21
daftykinsthough apparently it was done and failed once before03:21
lotuspsychjeyes thats the idea, because we have the nicest crew03:21
OerHekselse #ubuntu-beginners :-D03:21
lotuspsychjeloool03:21
OerHeksinvite only ... mehh03:22
lotuspsychjeoldskool beginners03:22
daftykinsi should be asleep but i got into baseball last year so i'm watching a game - despite it being 4am here03:23
lotuspsychjedaftykins: set this channel to idle ok, ill invite some more during the day03:23
daftykinsok :>03:23
lotuspsychjeOerHeks: a new openstack tweet: https://twitter.com/ubuntu03:25
lotuspsychjeand a lot of ubuntu phone news open to public to buy :p03:25
daftykinsheh ubunt.eu is really confusing03:26
lotuspsychjedaftykins: howso?03:26
daftykinsit's like you've still got the final 'u' of ubuntu but with the e there it goes funny03:27
daftykinseh i'm just being silly i think :>03:27
lotuspsychjelol03:28
lotuspsychjenot sure why they did that03:28
lotuspsychjedid you guys see this one? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/04/ubuntu-mate-inks-first-hardware-deal03:30
OerHeksnice, affordable03:36
lotuspsychjeOerHeks: looks promising right :p03:38
daftykinshmm never heard of Entroware03:42
lotuspsychjeme neither03:42
lotuspsychjeubuntu is getting big in the world :p03:43
daftykinsah ok they just sell things like Clevo machines03:43
daftykinsi would love a Dell XPS 13 FHD if i were in the market for a new machine :D 15 hour battery (under Windows at least)03:44
lotuspsychjeah clevo thats those barebone laptops right03:44
daftykinsyeah, so whoever that co. are are just grabbing them, putting specs together and throwing an OS on03:44
lotuspsychjedaftykins: did you see that dell on the twitter page03:44
daftykinsno sir03:44
lotuspsychjedaftykins: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/04/09/designed-for-developers-dell-launches-two-new-ubuntu-based-systems/?utm_source=ubunteu&utm_medium=url_shortner&utm_term=9H8bb0&utm_campaign=shortner03:45
daftykinsonly trouble is i'm always under the impression the Linuxes suffer for battery life - which is always my #1 attribute for laptops03:47
lotuspsychjedaftykins: well im gonna open an ubuntu computer store soon in my country, with only samsung ssd pro insides and ubuntu LTS03:47
lotuspsychjedaftykins: still trying to find a nice barebone company03:48
zerowaitstatedaftykins: I am on a linux laptop right now; of course it's hard for me to decide how power hungry it is given that it has a 17" screen, 16 GB of RAM, and a 6 core processor03:48
daftykinsouch that sounds like a desktop replacement chunker :)03:49
daftykinslotuspsychje: ah neat!03:49
lotuspsychjezerowaitstate: what brand is this?03:49
zerowaitstatesystem7603:49
lotuspsychjedaftykins: something like system76 yeah03:49
lotuspsychjezerowaitstate: oh nice, but those are really expensive right03:50
zerowaitstatecheaper than the dell you linked03:50
lotuspsychjetrue03:50
lotuspsychjeand the hardware rox on system76 :p03:50
zerowaitstatedepends on which model, from what i've read03:50
zerowaitstatethey don't actually make the PC; it's a third-party off brand03:51
lotuspsychjezerowaitstate: do you know wich brand?03:51
zerowaitstatetaiwanese something something03:51
zerowaitstatethat send it to you in a box that says something like "please enjoy computer with complement"03:51
lotuspsychjei found BTO laptops was promising for barebones03:52
lotuspsychjebut OerHeks suggested me to contact HP as they are stable to linux, maybe they can deliver barebones too03:53
zerowaitstateHP EliteBooks are very good build quality03:53
zerowaitstateI had one for work and it rocked03:54
lotuspsychjei dont want a hd inside and neither an Os03:54
lotuspsychjeso i can put samsung ssd pro inside and format with ubuntu03:54
lotuspsychjeso it will be lowcost for the end-user with ubuntu as free Os03:54
lotuspsychjeand rocketfast as a tablet :p03:55
zerowaitstatelotuspsychje: you want an msata03:56
lotuspsychjezerowaitstate: yeah samsung pro 850 msata would rocknroll :p03:57
lotuspsychjezerowaitstate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wUdtcD5gYw03:58
lotuspsychjenot much ubuntu samsung pro 850 video's yet03:59
badbodhpart09:59
lordievadero/11:55
lotuspsychjelordievader: nice and calm here :p11:55
OerHeksNot anymore12:05
lotuspsychjelol12:06
BluesKajhowdy14:27
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: hello mate14:27
OerHekshey BluesKaj14:27
BluesKaj\hi lotuspsychje, OerHeks14:28
BluesKajhope you don't mind a Kubuntu guy in here :)14:30
lotuspsychjewe like all kinds of flavors :p14:30
OerHeksNothing wrong with guys14:31
OerHeksoh, Kubuntu :-P14:31
lotuspsychjecfhowlett: welcome :p14:31
lordievaderOerHeks: :P14:31
cfhowlettyowza!!14:31
OerHeksI certainly install plasma5 when 15.04 is out.14:32
lotuspsychjethis will be our private ubuntu chitchat while we do support :p14:32
BluesKajOerHeks, plasma 5 is default on Kubuntu 15.0414:34
lotuspsychjeeveryone thrilled with 15.04 so it seems14:35
BluesKajI'm not real thrilled, some of my favourite features are missing so far14:36
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: wich ones?14:37
BluesKajno more separate widgets/backgrounds for Virtual Desktops is my main complaint14:38
lotuspsychjeEriC^^: welcome :p14:39
BluesKajforced into trying to configure activities, which is something I didn''t need14:39
BluesKajhi EriC^^14:39
EriC^^lotuspsychje: thanks14:39
EriC^^hi BluesKaj14:39
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: well didnt test vivid myself, im sticking to trusty for a while :p14:40
BluesKajI'm using Kubuntu 15.04 for testing as requested, but ai still prefer 14.10 and plasma 4 .. it's actually my main OS atm14:41
lotuspsychjecool14:41
cfhowlettLTS only = sanity saving measure IMHO14:41
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: did you see that MATE laptop on omgubuntu?14:42
lotuspsychjecfhowlett: lol14:42
BluesKajlotuspsychje, no I didn't14:42
lotuspsychjehttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/04/ubuntu-mate-inks-first-hardware-deal14:42
lotuspsychjecheck it out :p14:42
cfhowlettwait, so now specific distros are getting OEM hardware deals?  Then I must disagree with DELL.  The Sputnik m3800 is currently offered as a developer laptop.  Should also be offered with ubuntustudio as a Multimedia Creation Laptop.14:44
lotuspsychjeubuntu is spreading wings worldwide :p14:46
lotuspsychjecfhowlett: the other day a user shouted in #ubuntu-touch about ubuntu going deal with microsoft lol14:48
lotuspsychjewith all the cloud deals and snappy core n such14:48
cfhowlettlotuspsychje, yeah, he missed the 04/01 memo14:49
lotuspsychje:p14:49
BluesKajcfhowlett, got url to the memo ?14:54
cfhowlettBluesKaj, nah, we gotta wait until next April Fool's Day.14:55
OerHeks:-D14:55
BluesKajheh14:55
BluesKajshoulda known14:56
BluesKajwas running W7 as guest on qemu-kvm , but the LAN configuration required escapes me despite the tutorials I tried , but then i realized I don't need windows anymore since linux has better networking anyway , and it works well on our LAN with the other windows machines ...guess I'm just an old windows guy who can't let go15:02
cfhowlettBluesKaj, I have windows 7 + office 2010 in a vbox, but I boot it up maybe 30 minutes per month.15:03
BluesKajyeah cfhowlett , not much point to it , is there15:05
cfhowlettBluesKaj, certainly no pressing need.15:05
BluesKajcfhowlett, I suppose you need it occasionally for work ?15:10
cfhowlettBluesKaj, yeah.  oxford english language dictionary is SUPPOSED to work on linux but doesn't so ... windows needed.15:11
BluesKajright'15:12
BluesKajlotuspsychje, I was just looking at the ubuntu-mate laptops specs, not real impressive for the money15:16
BluesKajbut I suppose a working linux configuration is worth something extra, less work to do on the users part15:18
cfhowlettmost users aren't like us.  most uses aren't even like most IRC folks.  they want it to "just work" otherwise they are quick to run back to the more familiar win/OSX15:24
OerHeksMaybe IRC folks are the worst, demanding.15:26
OerHeksAnyway, it is live Q&A.15:27
cfhowlettcase in point ... see the latest15:28
BluesKajI think most irc users have a 'hobby" or extra cirricular pursuit/activity and use irc as a forum to exchange information, altho there are a lot of chats that have no real subject ... just plain chit chat15:28
BluesKajI discovered irc as an audio hobbyist looking for info and help15:30
BluesKajBBL15:46
daftykinsah my good ol' desktop Das Keyboard, today enjoys dropping the letter O :D17:09
daftykinsi vote ovsjanij for troll19:15
BluesKajdaftykins, who?19:22
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daftykinsBluesKaj: it's the nick of a time waster in #ubuntu19:29
BluesKajdaftykins, yes I see, one of those one word info types, who expects help with little or no info forthcoiming about his issue.19:32
daftykinsi think it's someone that knows the oft-enforced channel policy and is trolling it :)19:34
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