[03:20] <lotuspsychje> hello
[03:20] <daftykins> just to warn you, today's asshat is [Saint]
[03:20] <lotuspsychje> im trying to gather supporters into here for a nice chichat
[03:20] <daftykins> ah ok ^_^
[03:20] <lotuspsychje> this is a calm channel, not so crowdy as offtopic
[03:21] <daftykins> i did often think it'd be handy to have a place volunteers could chat
[03:21] <daftykins> though apparently it was done and failed once before
[03:21] <lotuspsychje> yes thats the idea, because we have the nicest crew
[03:21] <OerHeks> else #ubuntu-beginners :-D
[03:21] <lotuspsychje> loool
[03:22] <OerHeks> invite only ... mehh
[03:22] <lotuspsychje> oldskool beginners
[03:23] <daftykins> i should be asleep but i got into baseball last year so i'm watching a game - despite it being 4am here
[03:23] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: set this channel to idle ok, ill invite some more during the day
[03:23] <daftykins> ok :>
[03:25] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: a new openstack tweet: https://twitter.com/ubuntu
[03:25] <lotuspsychje> and a lot of ubuntu phone news open to public to buy :p
[03:26] <daftykins> heh ubunt.eu is really confusing
[03:26] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: howso?
[03:27] <daftykins> it's like you've still got the final 'u' of ubuntu but with the e there it goes funny
[03:27] <daftykins> eh i'm just being silly i think :>
[03:28] <lotuspsychje> lol
[03:28] <lotuspsychje> not sure why they did that
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> did you guys see this one? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/04/ubuntu-mate-inks-first-hardware-deal
[03:36] <OerHeks> nice, affordable
[03:38] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: looks promising right :p
[03:42] <daftykins> hmm never heard of Entroware
[03:42] <lotuspsychje> me neither
[03:43] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu is getting big in the world :p
[03:43] <daftykins> ah ok they just sell things like Clevo machines
[03:44] <daftykins> i would love a Dell XPS 13 FHD if i were in the market for a new machine :D 15 hour battery (under Windows at least)
[03:44] <lotuspsychje> ah clevo thats those barebone laptops right
[03:44] <daftykins> yeah, so whoever that co. are are just grabbing them, putting specs together and throwing an OS on
[03:44] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: did you see that dell on the twitter page
[03:44] <daftykins> no sir
[03:45] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/04/09/designed-for-developers-dell-launches-two-new-ubuntu-based-systems/?utm_source=ubunteu&utm_medium=url_shortner&utm_term=9H8bb0&utm_campaign=shortner
[03:47] <daftykins> only trouble is i'm always under the impression the Linuxes suffer for battery life - which is always my #1 attribute for laptops
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: well im gonna open an ubuntu computer store soon in my country, with only samsung ssd pro insides and ubuntu LTS
[03:48] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: still trying to find a nice barebone company
[03:48] <zerowaitstate> daftykins: I am on a linux laptop right now; of course it's hard for me to decide how power hungry it is given that it has a 17" screen, 16 GB of RAM, and a 6 core processor
[03:49] <daftykins> ouch that sounds like a desktop replacement chunker :)
[03:49] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: ah neat!
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> zerowaitstate: what brand is this?
[03:49] <zerowaitstate> system76
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: something like system76 yeah
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> zerowaitstate: oh nice, but those are really expensive right
[03:50] <zerowaitstate> cheaper than the dell you linked
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> true
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> and the hardware rox on system76 :p
[03:50] <zerowaitstate> depends on which model, from what i've read
[03:51] <zerowaitstate> they don't actually make the PC; it's a third-party off brand
[03:51] <lotuspsychje> zerowaitstate: do you know wich brand?
[03:51] <zerowaitstate> taiwanese something something
[03:51] <zerowaitstate> that send it to you in a box that says something like "please enjoy computer with complement"
[03:52] <lotuspsychje> i found BTO laptops was promising for barebones
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> but OerHeks suggested me to contact HP as they are stable to linux, maybe they can deliver barebones too
[03:53] <zerowaitstate> HP EliteBooks are very good build quality
[03:54] <zerowaitstate> I had one for work and it rocked
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> i dont want a hd inside and neither an Os
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> so i can put samsung ssd pro inside and format with ubuntu
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> so it will be lowcost for the end-user with ubuntu as free Os
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> and rocketfast as a tablet :p
[03:56] <zerowaitstate> lotuspsychje: you want an msata
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> zerowaitstate: yeah samsung pro 850 msata would rocknroll :p
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> zerowaitstate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wUdtcD5gYw
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> not much ubuntu samsung pro 850 video's yet
[09:59] <badbodh> part
[11:55] <lordievader> o/
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: nice and calm here :p
[12:05] <OerHeks> Not anymore
[12:06] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:27] <BluesKaj> howdy
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: hello mate
[14:27] <OerHeks> hey BluesKaj
[14:28] <BluesKaj> \hi lotuspsychje, OerHeks
[14:30] <BluesKaj> hope you don't mind a Kubuntu guy in here :)
[14:30] <lotuspsychje> we like all kinds of flavors :p
[14:31] <OerHeks> Nothing wrong with guys
[14:31] <OerHeks> oh, Kubuntu :-P
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: welcome :p
[14:31] <lordievader> OerHeks: :P
[14:31] <cfhowlett> yowza!!
[14:32] <OerHeks> I certainly install plasma5 when 15.04 is out.
[14:32] <lotuspsychje> this will be our private ubuntu chitchat while we do support :p
[14:34] <BluesKaj> OerHeks, plasma 5 is default on Kubuntu 15.04
[14:35] <lotuspsychje> everyone thrilled with 15.04 so it seems
[14:36] <BluesKaj> I'm not real thrilled, some of my favourite features are missing so far
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: wich ones?
[14:38] <BluesKaj> no more separate widgets/backgrounds for Virtual Desktops is my main complaint
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: welcome :p
[14:39] <BluesKaj> forced into trying to configure activities, which is something I didn''t need
[14:39] <BluesKaj> hi EriC^^
[14:39] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: thanks
[14:39] <EriC^^> hi BluesKaj
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: well didnt test vivid myself, im sticking to trusty for a while :p
[14:41] <BluesKaj> I'm using Kubuntu 15.04 for testing as requested, but ai still prefer 14.10 and plasma 4 .. it's actually my main OS atm
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> cool
[14:41] <cfhowlett> LTS only = sanity saving measure IMHO
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: did you see that MATE laptop on omgubuntu?
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: lol
[14:42] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, no I didn't
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/04/ubuntu-mate-inks-first-hardware-deal
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> check it out :p
[14:44] <cfhowlett> wait, so now specific distros are getting OEM hardware deals?  Then I must disagree with DELL.  The Sputnik m3800 is currently offered as a developer laptop.  Should also be offered with ubuntustudio as a Multimedia Creation Laptop.
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu is spreading wings worldwide :p
[14:48] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: the other day a user shouted in #ubuntu-touch about ubuntu going deal with microsoft lol
[14:48] <lotuspsychje> with all the cloud deals and snappy core n such
[14:49] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, yeah, he missed the 04/01 memo
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> :p
[14:54] <BluesKaj> cfhowlett, got url to the memo ?
[14:55] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, nah, we gotta wait until next April Fool's Day.
[14:55] <OerHeks> :-D
[14:55] <BluesKaj> heh
[14:56] <BluesKaj> shoulda known
[15:02] <BluesKaj> was running W7 as guest on qemu-kvm , but the LAN configuration required escapes me despite the tutorials I tried , but then i realized I don't need windows anymore since linux has better networking anyway , and it works well on our LAN with the other windows machines ...guess I'm just an old windows guy who can't let go
[15:03] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, I have windows 7 + office 2010 in a vbox, but I boot it up maybe 30 minutes per month.
[15:05] <BluesKaj> yeah cfhowlett , not much point to it , is there
[15:05] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, certainly no pressing need.
[15:10] <BluesKaj> cfhowlett, I suppose you need it occasionally for work ?
[15:11] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, yeah.  oxford english language dictionary is SUPPOSED to work on linux but doesn't so ... windows needed.
[15:12] <BluesKaj> right'
[15:16] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, I was just looking at the ubuntu-mate laptops specs, not real impressive for the money
[15:18] <BluesKaj> but I suppose a working linux configuration is worth something extra, less work to do on the users part
[15:24] <cfhowlett> most users aren't like us.  most uses aren't even like most IRC folks.  they want it to "just work" otherwise they are quick to run back to the more familiar win/OSX
[15:26] <OerHeks> Maybe IRC folks are the worst, demanding.
[15:27] <OerHeks> Anyway, it is live Q&A.
[15:28] <cfhowlett> case in point ... see the latest
[15:28] <BluesKaj> I think most irc users have a 'hobby" or extra cirricular pursuit/activity and use irc as a forum to exchange information, altho there are a lot of chats that have no real subject ... just plain chit chat
[15:30] <BluesKaj> I discovered irc as an audio hobbyist looking for info and help
[15:46] <BluesKaj> BBL
[17:09] <daftykins> ah my good ol' desktop Das Keyboard, today enjoys dropping the letter O :D
[19:15] <daftykins> i vote ovsjanij for troll
[19:22] <BluesKaj> daftykins, who?
[19:29] <daftykins> BluesKaj: it's the nick of a time waster in #ubuntu
[19:32] <BluesKaj> daftykins, yes I see, one of those one word info types, who expects help with little or no info forthcoiming about his issue.
[19:34] <daftykins> i think it's someone that knows the oft-enforced channel policy and is trolling it :)