[03:35] <Knuckl3head> Hello?
[03:38] <lotuspsychje> Knuckl3head: yes?
[03:38] <Knuckl3head> I am trying to find ways of extracting drivers from an android device, is there any information on how I should go about this?
[03:39] <lotuspsychje> Knuckl3head: what are you trying to do exactly?
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> Knuckl3head: porting ubuntu touch to a new device?
[03:40] <Knuckl3head> Yeah, I'm just trying to get an initial image at the moment.
[03:41] <lotuspsychje> Knuckl3head: what kind of device do you have?
[03:41] <Knuckl3head> It's a Polaroid A8 Tablet.
[03:41] <lotuspsychje> Knuckl3head: maybe the XDA forums have a porting to your device?
[03:42] <Knuckl3head> The XDA forums? I haven't checked there yet, hold on.
[03:43] <Knuckl3head> How would I find whether or not they have a port on there?
[03:43] <lotuspsychje> Knuckl3head: search for you device name, and check if someone already busy on it
[03:45] <Knuckl3head> Just rooting software.
[03:46] <lotuspsychje> Knuckl3head: for now these are the supported devices:
[03:46] <lotuspsychje> !devices | Knuckl3head
[03:46] <ubot5> Knuckl3head: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[03:46] <Knuckl3head> So does this mean that there's no way to extract the drivers?
[03:46] <lotuspsychje> Knuckl3head: but many handymen, are portin to cool devices, nexus5, one+one phones, tablet brands and such
[03:48] <Knuckl3head> So I'll have to buy a 200$+ tablet to install Ubuntu Touch?
[03:48] <lotuspsychje> Knuckl3head: if you wanna be safe, buy a second hand nexus7
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> i run touch on it and works like a charm
[03:50] <Knuckl3head> I'll just email the devs or contact the mailing list to see if they can help me.
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> sure, and also idle here when the devs are waking up
[04:34] <AskUbuntu> Ubuntu OS for phones | http://askubuntu.com/q/608262
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[06:43] <brunch875> Good morning in the morning!
[09:14] <dadexix86> hi all. how does the auto brightness work? Is it measured by the frontal camera? how much battery does this automated thing usually drain?
[09:15] <nhaines> There's usually a dedicated photosensor for this next to the proximity sensor that the phone uses to turn off the screen when you put it to your face during a call.
[09:19] <dadexix86> nhaines, thanks. on the bq device is this the first one from the left, then?
[09:23] <nhaines> That I don't know.
[09:25] <dadexix86> nhaines, ok thanks :) do you know something about the amount of battery (usually) used by that feature?
[09:54] <nhaines> dadexix86: no, but it's probably only used when the screen is on and photosensors tend to be variable impedence resistors, so probably basically none.
[09:58] <dadexix86> nhaines, thanks :)
[10:01] <nhaines> dadexix86: you're welcome.  :)
[10:31] <Mad_Dud> guys, are there any connection problems reported in Germany for cellular networs in aquariz e4.5 ubuntu edition?
[10:31] <Mad_Dud> i'm getting Sim 1 "unregistered"
[10:34] <Mad_Dud> when i go to Rellular options, choose 'carrier' it says 'none' and when i click it (it's supposed to give a list of available networks?), there is only 'automatically' option available
[11:02] <brunch875> ahooy!
[11:30] <dadexix86> Mad_Dud, what is your carrier?
[11:31] <Mad_Dud> dadexix86: vodafone
[11:31] <Mad_Dud> vodafone DE, to be specific
[11:32] <dadexix86> Then yes, there is a problem, see bug 1436545 :) I have O2 DE and it works fine :)
[11:32] <ubot5> bug 1436545 in ofono (Ubuntu RTM) "Mobile data not working for numerous German carriers" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1436545
[11:33] <Mad_Dud> dadexix86: damn it!
[11:33] <Mad_Dud> ok. thanks
[11:42] <ogra_> Mad_Dud, despite the bug (which actually claims vodafone works) ... you shoul din any case get a GSM connection, this seems like a new and unrelated bug
[11:44] <ogra_> note that there is another bug where it takes 5min+ to register to GSM
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> great work on the browser-app setting guys
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[13:13] <NIN101> how long will the aquariz e4.5 receive updates? does this depend on BQ?
[16:05] <Nothing_Much> Does Ubuntu Touch support .debs normally?
[16:12] <rbasak> Nothing_Much: only if you remount the root filesystem read/write. That breaks image-based updates though.
[16:20] <Nothing_Much> rbasak: ohh..
[16:20] <Nothing_Much> will .debs be supported normally in the future?
[16:24] <AskUbuntu> no notifications from calendar and reminders apps on Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Editon | http://askubuntu.com/q/608422
[16:33] <rbasak> Nothing_Much: no. Otherwise users would need dist-upgrade to work, and that's fraught with issues.
[16:34] <Nothing_Much> ah, so Click is the way of the future?
[16:34] <rbasak> Nothing_Much: yes, for stuff being added to the core system.
[16:38] <rbasak> (as opposed to for the core system itself)
[16:50] <AskUbuntu> Background image for the scopes | http://askubuntu.com/q/608427
[18:04] <Se7> hi guyssss
[18:05] <Se7> i was thinking....
[18:05] <Se7> i m left hand it s possible to move the bar on the right and side ?
[18:07] <Se7> sometime it s a bit weird to use it with the left thumb on the left and side of the phone
[18:08] <Se7> it s would be great for the market as well i guess :)
[18:19] <dadexix86> Se7, I was thinking about the same yesterday (although I am right handed). How do you feel with the desktop? Is it okay having it on the left or would it be better having everything inverted?
[18:23] <Se7> on desktop it s different
[18:24] <Se7> because you got the pointer
[18:24] <Se7> not the finger :)
[18:24] <cwayne_> popey, don't suppose you're around?
[18:24] <Se7> and it s better on the desktop because you got everythink on left
[18:24] <popey> cwayne_: for you, always
[18:24] <Se7> lol
[18:25] <Se7> this a quick answer
[18:25] <cwayne_> popey, got an update to untappd if you don't mind :)  fixes an account issue dobey_ was seein'
[18:27] <popey> cwayne_: done
[18:27] <cwayne_> popey, <3
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[19:41] <Se7> dadexix86, you think its possible?
[19:45] <dadexix86> Se7, in general? Maybe. Without rewriting a ton of code? Nope :( but probably the nice thing to do would to have a switch in the settings. Having the launcher on one side and not above/below it is actually important to have the possibly to move the launcher on the other side.
[19:46] <dadexix86> Se7 I strongly suggest that you fill a bug and wait for the developers to give an answer.
[19:47] <Se7> ok tnx for the answer
[19:48] <Se7> have a switch would be very great
[19:48] <Se7> but yu think it s a bug?
[20:09] <dadexix86> Se7, well, yes. it is a usability bug for me :)
[20:10] <Se7>   ok just posted the question :)
[20:14] <dadexix86> can you link it please? :)
[20:15] <Se7> i posted in ask ubuntu not in a bug
[20:15] <Se7> http://askubuntu.com/questions/608483/launcher-ubuntu-touch
[20:16] <AskUbuntu> Launcher ubuntu touch | http://askubuntu.com/q/608483
[20:18] <dadexix86> thanks!
[20:18] <Se7> no probs :)
[20:18] <Se7> it s ok there ir i have to report a new bug in launchpad?
[20:22] <popey> i think you may be missing that the right edge is used for switching applications
[20:22] <popey> which is generally something you do more often than launching applications
[20:22] <popey> if you move launcher to the right, then switching will obviously move to the left
[20:22] <popey> if you do that then you have to stretch every time you switch apps
[20:26] <Se7> popey, i dont agree
[20:27] <popey> you don't agree with what?
[20:27] <Se7> i don t understand very well what you mean for stretch
[20:28] <Se7> but i dont agree with that
[20:28] <Se7> popey> which is generally something you do more often than launching applications
[20:28] <popey> People generally switch applications (like ALT+TAB) _way_ more than they launch apps
[20:28] <Se7> when i m at work wich it s a very boring job
[20:29] <Se7> i launch application every second...close and open fb
[20:29] <Se7> ebay
[20:29] <Se7> telegramm as well
[20:29] <popey> You open an app, and then _close_ it?
[20:30] <popey> So you have no apps running?
[20:30] <Se7> no
[20:30] <Se7> if i watch on fb after i close it
[20:31] <Se7> i don t leave apps running in background
[20:31] <Se7> save battery :)
[20:31] <popey> That's not common behaviour.
[20:32] <popey> Apps on Ubuntu don't run in the background.
[20:32] <popey> So it saves battery without you having to do that.
[20:33] <Se7> ok ok this is another think i guess
[20:35] <Se7> i was talking about the comfort for me that i m left hand
[20:36] <popey> ah I see.
[20:36] <popey> I misunderstood that bit, sorry.
[20:37] <Se7> no probs popey
[21:52] <SturmFlut> D****d I crashed my E4.5 again
[21:54] <popey> D****d?
[21:54] <SturmFlut> popey: It starts with "D" and ends with "amned"
[21:55] <SturmFlut> Every time it happens I can't subsequently get an ABD shell, so no possibility to debug it
[21:56] <SturmFlut> Ooooh! It came back to life!
[21:56] <SturmFlut> This is new
[22:02] <SturmFlut> I'll file a bug tomorrow, but if anybody wants to look at the logs at this exact moment: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10811672/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/10811675/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/10811679/
[23:57] <Thandlovsky> If anyone is interested, I have f2fs working on the ubuntu touch image and it works great I think you guys should check it out