[04:54] morning captine DalekSec inetpro et al [05:55] oh my net splits time again [06:35] hi Tonberry [06:36] hi [07:54] at times im more stupid than others it seems [07:54] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases [07:57] how come 14.04.1 expires in 20.19 and 14.04.2 expires in 2016 and what is the HWE thing [07:57] oh is that only kernel support [07:58] all other security updates will keep going till 20.19 [07:58] sigh rtfs [08:34] oh my [08:41] HWE is xorg and mesa too. [08:41] ah ty DalekSec [10:17] DalekSec may i ask where you are so i can fit you into a timezone in my head please [10:19] you can pm if you prefer [10:48] Kilos: what is 20.19? [10:48] wb inetpro [10:48] ty [10:48] where do you see that [10:49] oh sorry 2019 [10:49] what broke? [10:50] the . can in becasue of the 14.04 action [10:50] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/1204_HWE_EOL [10:51] thunder! [10:52] ya town side [11:11] thunder coming closer fast now [11:11] if i disappear power died [11:22] wb plustwo [11:23] o/ Kilos [11:23] rain [11:58] hi captine [12:02] hey there [12:03] hmm... hey there , you with the smile on your face [12:03] ? [12:03] smile [12:03] old song i think [12:03] am doing ok... just mowed the lawns [12:03] :) [12:03] lol [12:03] good man [13:24] good afternoon [13:57] avy inetpro [13:58] very promising thunder we had [15:05] inetpro ping [15:05] hello Kilos [15:05] hibana wb [15:05] pong [15:06] lol [15:06] wat is stukkend [15:06] * hibana talking to you from Ireland or somewhere far away [15:06] nee man [15:06] :-) [15:07] hehe [15:07] wat nee man jy? [15:07] there was mo thunder in ireland today [15:07] no [15:07] Kilos: the thunder took him away to a far off land [15:08] should i wait for the site to launch before trying to get a list addy [15:08] wat's fout oom? [15:08] neo is missing in action [15:08] ai! [15:08] some heavy project keeping him away [15:09] you don't have to do everything in one day [15:09] hee hee listen to mr impatience himself [15:09] inetpro: this thing has been dragging on for longer than one day sir [15:09] hmm... [15:09] ty hibana [15:10] someone on my side at last [15:10] * inetpro scratching with his toes in the sand [15:10] Kilos: waar's jou sjambok? [15:11] * Kilos prods inetpro with the sjambok [15:11] ok, ok, jammer oom [15:11] wat moet ek maak oom? [15:12] tell me what to do, you are the one that said mailing lists are easy [15:12] and [15:12] and [15:12] ai! [15:12] you supposed to support me in locoteams [15:14] ive set the cheches on neo [15:15] apologise for your greeter bots stupid questions [15:16] Kilos: wat het inetpro gedoen? [15:16] te min dink ek hibana [15:17] i want an official list addy for the site [15:17] gee kans ek sal hom vinnig uitsorteer [15:17] not just any tom dick or harry@whatever [15:17] dankie hibana [15:17] uh [15:18] uh wat? [15:18] ai! [15:18] lol [15:18] * inetpro lost it somewhere [15:19] IT? [15:19] IT = Information Technology [15:19] sigh [15:19] it then [15:19] what is it [15:20] * Kilos hands the sjambok to hibana [15:21] * hibana takes the sjambok and puts it aside for the moment [15:21] will come in handy later [15:21] ai! [15:21] sort him man [15:25] ai! [15:29] hibana dont forget to hand the sjambok back before you leave, i battle here without it [15:29] sure thing Kilos [15:30] Kilos: did you or superfly delete the ubuntu-africa team again or was that never created as a team? [15:30] not me [15:30] dev-team [15:31] ubuntu-africa-dev i think it was [15:31] I think we simply need to create the ubuntu-africa team [15:31] I think there's one already, but I can't remember for sure [15:31] I'll check [15:32] but I remember you had something which the fly said was wrong [15:32] just not now, power going out from 6-8 [15:32] ty superfly how you have lots of coffee made [15:32] hope [15:33] thermos flasks ftw [15:33] well done [15:34] i got gas stoves and lamps so all i really lose is the internet [15:37] * hibana should be immune from power failures here in the DC [15:38] you guys went offline earlier [15:38] was that power or upgrade time [15:38] * hibana is just afraid of his masters pushing the wrong button [15:38] lol [15:40] Kilos: I got a new lease of life here at Amazon [15:40] how [15:40] oh that 1 year thing [15:40] thanks to magespawn's brilliant idea last night [15:41] yeah his idea is good because he wants to derive income from it [15:41] how much space have you got [15:42] oh its timed in hours so no good online 24/7 [15:42] Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on [15:42] /dev/xvda1 7.8G 1014M 6.4G 14% / [15:43] what about the time thing [15:43] I'm sure I can keep it up all hours [15:44] so is there space for QA [15:50] Kilos: space should be more than enough [15:50] you'll have to give me a bit of time to get the hang of the setup [15:50] and permissions [15:51] so many options, so much to read [15:51] but you are so good at rtfs [15:54] 750 hours free per month [15:56] ok how many hours in a month [15:56] Maaz 31x24 [15:56] Kilos: Huh? [15:56] Maaz 31*24 [15:56] Kilos: 744 [15:56] wow so its full month [15:57] = [15:57] + [16:01] i must go back to school and get my folks money back, how can they give you 750 hours when there are only 744 [16:07] oh i just twigged about the team inetpro some names to add hey [16:12] hi SilverCode [16:13] hi Kilos [16:26] SilverCode have you joined us yet at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za/+members [16:26] i think thats the link [16:27] and if you would, can you add yourself here too please https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Members [16:34] ok, signed up on launchpad, but the wiki login seems to not work :/ [16:35] dont you see edit [16:35] oh my [16:36] ok, it finally managed to log in [16:36] it is very slow at times [16:36] lol yay [16:36] ...and it logged me out... [16:36] oh my [16:36] lets try this again [16:37] please do [16:37] murphy is around again [16:38] so do I just edit the wiki and stick my name at the bottom? [16:38] yip [16:38] easiest is to copy paste the one above and the paste and edit it i believe [16:39] all those [| things are hard to remember [16:43] done [16:43] ty SilverCode [16:43] and welcome to our family [16:43] community [18:24] hmm... inetpro nog ene [19:24] Kilos: you were saying? [19:24] i was? [19:24] what was i saying [19:24] ?? [19:27] you were talking about nog ene [19:29] oh moenie loop vir jy my sjambok terug gee nie asb [19:36] Kilos: ek loop? Hoekom sal ek nou wil loop? [19:36] o gaan jy bly [19:37] * hibana gaan vir die oom sit en loer wannerr hy slaap en waneer hy opstaan [19:37] mooi [19:45] wat maak die oom vandag? [19:46] allerande goed [19:52] superfly: do you think it would really matter whether a mailing list ends with @lists.launchpad.net or with @lists.ubuntu.com ? [19:58] Kilos: let's stop whing and just do it [19:58] whining* [19:58] ok do it [19:59] too much rtfs for me at this time [19:59] lemme see whether I can even create a team as a non-official [20:00] you are an official [20:00] ai! all i taught you, and you still know nothing [20:01] Kilos: give me a description [20:01] of? [20:02] africa team [20:02] a sentence or two [20:02] maybe with caps [20:02] this team is responsible for the building and launching of ubuntu-africa.info [20:02] no man [20:03] no [20:03] sigh [20:03] this team is not for the web development [20:03] what kinda sentence are you looking for [20:03] oh [20:03] this team is like the ubuntu-za mailing list team [20:03] for what then [20:03] anyone and everyone welcome [20:04] or not? [20:04] ya same as ours [20:04] everyone is welcome to help newcomers to ubuntu and linux in general [20:04] dink oom, dink [20:04] gee vir die man goeie terugvoer [20:05] and spread ubuntu community spirit as far as possible [20:05] you want more? [20:06] Ubuntu South Africa is a community for all Ubuntu users, developers and enthusiasts in South Africa. [20:06] and noobs [20:06] Ubuntu Africa is a community for all Ubuntu users, developers and enthusiasts in Africa [20:06] hehe [20:06] yip [20:06] copy, paste and edit action [20:07] good that saves time [20:07] i like copy pasting [20:07] Membership policy: Open Team, Delegated Team, Moderated Team or Restricted Team? [20:07] open [20:08] Open Team: Membership is inclusive; any user or team can join, and no approval is required. [20:08] maybe moderated but i dont think thats necessary [20:08] Delegated Team: Membership is inclusive; any user or team can join, but team administrators approve direct memberships. [20:08] Moderated Team: Membership is exclusive; users and exclusive teams may ask to join. [20:08] delegated [20:08] yeah, I think so also [20:09] Subscription period? [20:09] well [20:09] Number of days a new subscription lasts before expiring. You can customize the length of an individual subscription when approving it. Leave this empty or set to 0 for subscriptions to never expire. [20:09] long [20:09] 2 years / 3 years? [20:10] 3 [20:10] or more? [20:10] what do you think [20:10] Maaz: 3*365 [20:10] inetpro: 1095 [20:10] 3 is a long time [20:10] not really [20:10] what is it at ubuntu-za? [20:11] look how many of our guys forgot to renew after 2 years [20:11] don't we have to renew every year? [20:11] 2 at za [20:11] hmm... [20:11] oom, wat eg ons nou? [20:11] seg* [20:12] ek dink 3 [20:12] ai! [20:12] wat [20:12] * hibana sukkel met die kappie [20:12] if you want it for one year thats fine too [20:12] ok, let's make that 3 [20:12] lol [20:13] When someone's membership is about to expire, notify them and: [20:13] invite them to apply for renewal, or [20:13] invite them to renew their own membership [20:13] and make the renewal reminder a real nuisance one so it easier to renew than forget [20:13] Hello [20:13] hi Squirm [20:13] wb Squirm [20:14] Squirm you missing all the action [20:14] I'd say invite them to renew their own membership [20:14] ya thats fine [20:14] Self renewal period: (Optional) Number of days members can renew their own membership. The number can be from 1 to 3650 (10 years). [20:15] this is on launchpad right? [20:15] Kilos: yep [20:15] Kilos: this is not the mailing list, just yet [20:15] make that 3 years too then i think [20:15] oh [20:15] this is the LP team [20:15] oh [20:15] I never renewed because they reminder became a nuisance, it bugged me terribly [20:15] ja oom [20:16] shame on you Squirm [20:16] hierdie is vir die loopplank [20:16] renew on first reminder and its over [20:16] No [20:16] I'll renew when I want to renew :/ [20:16] ya but you forget [20:17] hmm... [20:17] Squirm: I'm sure we can change it later, what do you suggest for now? [20:17] when i get the first reminder i renew then its done [20:17] 1 reminder a month before an another a day before? [20:18] or three days before [20:18] that's not the option [20:18] lol [20:18] option is: [20:18] Self renewal period: (Optional) Number of days members can renew their own membership. The number can be from 1 to 3650 (10 years) [20:19] ya thats the period not the reminders [20:20] shall I make that the maximum [20:20] ? [20:20] your choice [20:20] * hibana votes for maximum [20:20] thats good for young guys [20:20] Squirm: you've been outvoted [20:21] lol [20:21] now please go join the team [20:21] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-africa [20:21] i think its lekker to not have to worry about renewing at all [20:21] Yes, I like that idea [20:22] Only thing is that it gets rid of people who aren;t active anymore [20:22] which is a plus [20:22] done [20:22] This team does not use Launchpad to host a mailing list. [20:22] * inetpro goes ahead to "Create a mailing list" [20:22] g pro [20:22] go too [20:22] i need a new keyboard [20:23] this one makes many typos [20:23] hehe [20:23] The mailing list is being created and will be available for use in a few minutes. [20:28] inetpro dont forget to add all this to your wiki page for you membership application hey [20:28] Kilos: mailing list is there now [20:28] refresh the page [20:29] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-africa [20:30] do you see me there [20:31] yep [20:31] yay i didnt break it [20:32] Kilos: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-africa/msg00000.html [20:33] well done sir [20:33] ty [20:33] now to add it with bzr [20:34] waarvan praat die oom nou? [20:34] the list address to be added to site [20:34] oh is that it [20:35] Kilos: that is as simple as it gets [20:35] wow [20:36] good work young man ty [20:36] we have mailing lists with the site hosting too [20:36] whew [20:37] we forgot about that [20:37] inetpro comment [20:37] superfly: oh, hmm... [20:38] superfly: why you say that only now? [20:38] any mailing list will do [20:38] lol [20:38] inetpro: uh, I've only just looked at IRC now? [20:38] :-) [20:39] now we need to dev a good advertising campain [20:39] Kilos: did you receive my "Hello Africa" message? [20:39] well duh [20:40] in your mailbox [20:40] duh [20:40] of course [20:40] duh? [20:40] can you respond to test whether it works [20:40] as a late subscriber the fly would not have gotten it [20:41] it opens in chrome here [20:41] no man, in thunderbird [20:41] did you not get a message in thunderbird? [20:42] i got the mail in thunderbird and ticked the link and it opened in chrome [20:42] no, just reply [20:43] i got three mails [20:43] which one must i reply to [20:44] the one with subject "Hello Africa" [20:44] as for the others, RTFS [20:44] vertel hom inetpro [20:44] lol i see im approved and admin [20:44] \o/ [20:44] what does that mean [20:45] it means you've read one of the messages [20:45] i read all three [20:45] * inetpro joking [20:45] Kilos: it means you will get to approve members when they want to subscribe [20:45] but its useless i tick the subscribe link [20:46] i understand that [20:46] more work for me [20:46] inetpro: hy wil he jy moet alles doen [20:46] ai! [20:47] ja hibana hy wil my gou dooi [20:47] before renewal even [20:47] i really like hibana such and understanding young man [20:48] and with good foresight [20:48] Kilos: I don't think you want to wait for me to approve each one of them [20:48] inetpro he sees right through you [20:48] * inetpro sometimes goes AWOL [20:48] yaya ill do it [20:49] Kilos: daar's een uitstaande vraag [20:49] ? [20:50] hy het vir jou gevra om die epos te antwoord met die onderwerp "Hello Africa" [20:51] ai! [20:51] i dont see that [20:52] hmm.. [20:52] 04/12 22:40:06 duh [20:52] 04/12 22:40:12 of course [20:52] lol [20:53] and that was after: 04/12 22:39:42 Kilos: did you receive my "Hello Africa" message? [20:53] i see new mailing list and approved and admin [20:53] i saw hello africa in browser [20:54] Kilos: please check your SPAM folder [20:54] even thats gone [20:56] i have no idea how to do that in the bird [20:56] done see spam anywhere [20:56] oh up there [20:56] sigh [20:57] sigh? [20:58] I clearly can't see my own message when I send it, question is whether subscribers receive it [20:58] nope [20:58] superfly: can you check your mailbox please [20:58] I see [20:58] * inetpro just sent a 2nd message to ubuntu-africa@lists.launchpad.net [20:59] can you reply to it please [20:59] oh, I don't see any mails from you yet, just approvals [20:59] i have it [20:59] hmm... maybe there's a bit of a delay [21:00]