[00:00] <shyni> hello
[00:00] <Codenomics> #hashtag
[00:00] <shyni> my laptop isn't detecting any usb devices
[00:00] <shyni> I'm not sure what happened
[00:02] <hkrrsx> shyni: Reboot without anything connected to the laptop?
[00:02] <bindi> hi
[00:03] <hkrrsx> Then re-connect your device?
[00:03] <shyni> 'kay
[00:03] <bindi> i'm on 14.04.2 LTS, does "dist-upgrade" give me 14.10 or 14.02.3?
[00:03] <bindi> apt-get dist-upgrade that is
[00:04] <hkrrsx> bindi: do-release-upgrade should take you to 14.10
[00:04] <bindi> i don't want that though
[00:04] <bindi> i'm asking where does dist-upgrade take me
[00:04] <hkrrsx> apt-get upgrade should take you to 14.04.2
[00:04] <bindi> i'm on 14.04.2...
[00:04] <hkrrsx> Sorry, I meant 14.04.3
[00:04] <bindi> well i already did that, haven't rebooted
[00:04] <bindi> do i want to do dist-upgade aswell?
[00:04] <hkrrsx> Not yet
[00:05] <hkrrsx> Reboot first and check lsb_release -d
 shyni: Reboot without anything connected to the laptop?
[00:08] <shyni> didn't work
[00:08] <hkrrsx> shyni: Did you plug the USB device back in?
[00:08] <shyni> yes
[00:09] <hkrrsx> What USB device is it and does it show up in dmesg ?
[00:09] <hkrrsx> shyni: Or better yet, run " lsusb " and see if the device is listed
[00:09] <shyni> nothing shows up in lsusb
[00:10] <hkrrsx> Unplug the device, plug it back in and re-run lsusb
[00:10] <shyni> yeah, doesn't detect any sort of device
[00:10] <shyni> neither the mouse nor the pendrive
[00:11] <hiexpo> than you have a usb issue
[00:11] <hkrrsx> shyni: Are your USB ports enabled ?
[00:11] <penguser> hey, is this a bug?:  when I switch keyboard layouts, the authorization screen pops up
[00:11] <shyni> I didn't /dis/able them
[00:11] <penguser> but, I can click cancel... and proceed... so, it's coming up for nothing
[00:12] <hkrrsx> shyni: Do ANY USB devices work on that laptop?
[00:12] <penguser> it's annoying... does anyone know what's going on?
[00:12] <shyni> doesn't look like it
[00:12] <shyni> the mouse lights up
[00:12] <shyni> but that's it
[00:12] <hkrrsx> shyni: Sounds more like a hardware problem
[00:12] <shyni> things used to work until last night
[00:12] <shyni> oh
[00:13] <hiexpo> try to boot with libe usb
[00:13] <hiexpo> live^
[00:15] <hiexpo> shyni, doesnt mean its a linux prob. usb could have failed
[00:15] <shyni> i'll try
[00:17] <[n0mad]> why are there so many usb issues reported? i know that usb freaks out in windows too but it's been around for 20 years now.
[00:18] <hiexpo> i have never had an usb issue > operator error?
[00:18] <hkrrsx> [n0mad]: Perhaps USB has spring allergies
[00:18] <DANtheBEASTman> i'm getting a massive amount of perl errors everywhere on 14.04, anytime I install a package now I get debconf: Perl may be unconfigured (Can't locate IO/File.pm in @INC (you may need to install the IO::File module)
[00:18] <DANtheBEASTman> and yet I can't cpan install anything for the same reasons
[00:18] <[n0mad]> good to hear. i know that you only hear the problems but it's actually had me paranoid to start plugging in anything lol
[00:19] <[Saint]> [n0mad]: re: USB issues - because virtually NOTHING follows USB spec.
[00:19] <Guest88422> anyone using xubuntu here?
[00:20] <DANtheBEASTman> Guest88422: don't ask to ask
[00:20] <[Saint]> Its all a magical clusterfuck of things that are glued together with hope and prayers and bailing twine.
[00:20] <[n0mad]> lol [Saint]
[00:22] <[Saint]> If every USB device and driver suddenly started following the USB spec to the letter, ~90% of people's peripherals would just abruptly fall over and die.
[00:23] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: For starters pastebin -> sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade <- see what the package manager is unhappy about .
[00:23] <hiexpo> for sure
[00:26] <DANtheBEASTman> Bashing-om: http://sprunge.us/JXNc
[00:27] <shyni> hello
[00:27] <shyni> I booted from a USB
[00:27] <shyni> other devices work now
[00:28] <shyni> even the mouse
[00:28] <shyni> lsusb detects things
[00:29] <shyni> so the earlier issue must have been a software thing
[00:32] <rexus> Hi Guys.. in Ubuntu 14.04 and 14.10, what's the proper way of stopping a service?
[00:32] <DANtheBEASTman> rexus: sudo service stop {}
[00:33] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: Look'n at your http://sprunge.us/JXNc .
[00:34] <DANtheBEASTman> rexus: also, if you want to disable a service from running at boot you use sudo upate-rc.d -f remove {}
[00:34] <rexus> DANtheBEASTman: what I understand is that both are using upstart, so I was thinking it should be using the upstart command.
[00:34] <rexus> although I also understand that SystemV command is still working..
[00:34] <Codenomics> ugh, seems that my server just refuses to boot from this thumb drive
[00:34] <guest_001> <3 windows!
[00:34] <DANtheBEASTman> rexus: i don't know a whole lot about upstart specifics, but I do know that `service` is considered the standard way to manage services
[00:38] <rexus> DANtheBEASTman, what is this command called initctl ?
[00:38] <DANtheBEASTman> honestly, no idea
[00:39] <DANtheBEASTman> i'm sure you can run `man` on it and find out more though
[00:39] <rexus> yeah, I'm checking on it now..
[00:39] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: "Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-3.16.0-34-generic_3.16.0-34.45~14.04.1_amd64.deb " // let's try -> sudo apt-get clean , sudo apt-get update <- .
[00:40] <DANtheBEASTman> Bashing-om: not that I have trouble parsing what you mean, but i'm curious why you use , rather than ;
[00:41] <DANtheBEASTman> apt-get clean had no output
[00:41] <DANtheBEASTman> update worked fine..
[00:41] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: Just the 'syntax'  I 1st encountered here on IRC to seperate commands .
[00:43] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: Let's see of we can get those "75 not fully installed or removed." .. with caution -> sudo apt-get autoremove <- . Pay attention to what the system will remove .
[00:45] <DANtheBEASTman> i feel like I should note this is a problem i'm having with perl, rather than apt
[00:46] <DANtheBEASTman> apt just happens to depend on perl and that's where I noticed this problem
[00:46] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: I look at it as 'pearl' is a package, and use the package manager to see what the problem is .. I have been known to be out in left field, though .
[00:47] <shyni> can anyone help me with my USB problem?
[00:48] <DANtheBEASTman> I did a `sudo dpkg --configure -a` and it fixed some of the not fully installed problems, I'm down to 9, and all mostly kernel related
[00:48] <DANtheBEASTman> shyni: so your install is having trouble with usb, but usb works on a live cd?
[00:49] <shyni> yes
[00:49] <DANtheBEASTman> shyni: so you can fairly rule out it's not a hardware issue, and is an issue with your current install? if it were me, I'd just re-install.... but I doubt that's the answer you're looking for
[00:50] <shyni> I'd rather not have to reinstall
[00:50] <daftykins> shyni: laptop?
[00:50] <shyni> yes
[00:50] <shyni> I /can/ just reinstall, I'd just rather not have to
[00:50] <daftykins> shyni: pastebin'd 'dmesg' when booting the install whilst USB doesn't work?
[00:50] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: OK, back to seeing what the package management status is now -> sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade <- then see what the next step is .
[00:50] <xbmc> hello
[00:50] <shyni> I haven't done a dmesg
[00:51] <xbmc> http://script.quakenet.org/paste/1675036 my system started spamming this to my syslog
[00:51] <xbmc> no hw changes (2 weeks ago i plugged in a webcam and configured motion), had 50d uptime
[00:51] <daftykins> shyni: then that's the next step! :D it should tell what's up with USB. beyond that, try removing the mains + battery, let the laptop sit for 2 mins, then plug in and power up
[00:51] <xbmc> i was confused by my sys disk going full, removed stuff.. went full again. found out my syslog was being spammed
[00:51] <DANtheBEASTman> Bashing-om: http://sprunge.us/XIBF
[00:52] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: look'n at http://sprunge.us/XIBF .
[00:52] <shyni> should I boot normally again and /then/ do a dmesg?
[00:52] <DANtheBEASTman> shyni: yes
[00:52] <daftykins> shyni: whichever you feel like
[00:53] <shyni> okay
[00:53] <mehn> i have a netbook that only has ubuntu server installed on it and wifi but no CD drive, is there a way i can reinstall the os from just the command line?
[00:53] <mehn> or preferably install xubuntu on it from the command line
[00:53] <xbmc> (if anyone tackles my problem, ill be back in a bit)
[00:54] <daftykins> mehn: just install the xubuntu-desktop package, if it's a supported version
[00:54] <genii> mehn: If it has an USB better to dd the iso onto an USB stick and boot to that
[00:54] <daftykins> but bear in mind all netbooks should be shot out of a cannon into the sun in 2015
[00:54]  * daftykins slides genii a coffee
[00:54] <genii> daftykins: Caffeine, awesome!
[00:54] <coffee-> O_O
[00:55]  * genii sips coffee
[00:55] <mehn> as a fallback i just want to delete the o/s permanently and sell it on craigslist and let someone who buys it install whatever tghey want
[00:55] <daftykins> coffee-: i'd apologise but your nick is second to the guy the other day called 'apt-get' in here :P
[00:55] <mehn> how would i delete ubuntu for good from the command line? just fdisk?
[00:55] <mehn> i don't want them to have access to my data if they try to recover it
[00:55] <daftykins> mehn: dd
[00:55] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: Think'n as on my system : " sysop@1404mini:~$ ls -al /usr/local/share/perl/ >> ls: cannot access /usr/local/share/perl/: No such file or directory . Does not exist on a default install .
[00:55] <mehn> daftykins: do you know the full command?
[00:56] <coffee-> lol daftykins
[00:56] <DANtheBEASTman> Bashing-om: right..
[00:56] <daftykins> mehn: well i don't think the OS will appreciate running 'dd' on the hard disk from the install, it might actually scream as it goes down - worth a go i suppose though - "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=2M"
[00:57] <DANtheBEASTman> Bashing-om: the line saying (@INC contains: {list of paths}) is saying where perl is looking for things and can't find it. a bit like saying, command does not exist in $PATH
[00:57] <mehn> thx
[01:02] <DANtheBEASTman> Bashing-om: this might illustrate my point better, which I got after running `dpkg --configure -a` http://sprunge.us/QCKi
[01:03] <[Saint]> daftykins: surprisingly, it tolerates it very well.
[01:03] <daftykins> huzzah
[01:03] <DANtheBEASTman> all these are perl problems, and apt depends on perl. reinstalling perl doesn't help
[01:03] <daftykins> it'll take hours though
[01:03] <[Saint]> I wouldn't do this from the install itself, though.
[01:03] <[Saint]> Do it from a liveCD/DVD/USB
[01:04] <[Saint]> then you can actually verify after the fact.
[01:04]  * trollkin 
[01:04] <daftykins> oh you're not the person
[01:04] <xbmc> nobody tackled my problem? :p
[01:04] <daftykins> yes i would normally suggest to do it from a live session, but NOT doing exactly that was what the user asked for
[01:05] <daftykins> xbmc: guessing by your nickname you're typing from xbmcbuntu?
[01:05] <xbmc> nah, ubuntu 14.04.02 lts, just my user name
[01:06] <daftykins> xbmc: ok well your kernel is out of date in that pastebin
[01:06] <daftykins> 3.13.0-34 is old
[01:06] <xbmc> how do i update? i did update, upgrade and dist-upgrade
[01:06] <daftykins> you must not have linux-generic installed
[01:06] <xbmc> root@meskhenet:~# dpkg -l | grep linux-generic
[01:06] <xbmc> ii  linux-generic                                               3.13.0.49.56                                        amd64        Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers
[01:07] <daftykins> well, you're not booting into it
[01:07] <daftykins> check /boot for it being present
[01:07] <xbmc> how am i not booting into it
[01:07] <daftykins> or dpkg -l | grep linux-image-3.13
[01:07] <daftykins> GRUB default.
[01:07] <xbmc> i  linux-image-3.13.0-34-generic                               3.13.0-34.60                                        amd64        Linux kernel image for version 3.13.0 on 64 bit x86 SMP
[01:07] <xbmc> ii  linux-image-3.13.0-49-generic                               3.13.0-49.81                                        amd64        Linux kernel image for version 3.13.0 on 64 bit x86 SMP
[01:08] <daftykins> stop pasting in channel please
[01:08] <xbmc> ii on the first chars
[01:08] <xbmc> sorry :p its really hard to pastebin shit
[01:08] <daftykins> yes i can read :)
[01:08] <daftykins> language.
[01:08] <daftykins> so yeah, either you haven't rebooted or it's not GRUB default
[01:08] <xbmc> .... sorry about that too. i'm kind of intoxicated and my system broke when it was just "running fine"
[01:08] <daftykins> but until you're on current there's not much point trying to resolve issues
[01:08] <xbmc> i really havent done anything special. just install ubuntu, xbmc, and keep doing updates
[01:09] <xbmc> how can i check the grub default?
[01:09] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: Yesh on the looking for paths .. and hollering about line 7 .. compare -> cat /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Template.pm <- to mine : http://paste.ubuntu.com/10805114/ at or about line 7 .
[01:09] <daftykins> !grub
[01:09] <xbmc> uggggggggh are you making me read whole pages now :p
[01:09] <daftykins> yes
[01:09] <daftykins> also it's called Kodi these days
[01:10] <xbmc> well i'm not gonna change my username for that :>
[01:10] <xbmc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10805120/
[01:10] <xbmc> this what you wanted?
[01:10] <xbmc> hm no
[01:11] <DANtheBEASTman> Bashing-om: all the same.
[01:11] <xbmc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10805125/
[01:12] <daftykins> i don't need to see a config file, it's not really gonna help me - just give it a good think :)
[01:12] <xbmc> eh
[01:12] <daftykins> wouldn't hurt to run sudo update-grub and see if it spots the kernels
[01:13] <xbmc> http://script.quakenet.org/paste/1675081
[01:13] <xbmc> looks good y/n? =D
[01:13] <xbmc> ima change my name so..eh. yeah.
[01:13] <daftykins> you should probably call it a night early and work on it tomorrow if you're up late drunk :>
[01:14] <shyni> hello
[01:14] <daftykins> wb
[01:14] <bindi> no, i want to wake up tomorrow and be good on binge watching series :p i need to fix this
[01:14] <shyni> I removed the batteries and all
[01:14] <shyni> usb devices still not working
[01:14] <bindi> daftykins: btw. i do have an ES cpu. if that might explain the problem at all
[01:15] <daftykins> engineering sample? oh nice
[01:15] <bindi> yeah
[01:15] <bindi> i7 920. reported as "i7 000" in /proc/cpuinfo
[01:15] <daftykins> shyni: so you need to boot the install and share a "dmesg | pastebinit" ideally.
[01:16] <daftykins> bindi: you know how to hold left shift and pick a kernel manually right?
[01:16] <daftykins> 'cause i think you should go do that
[01:16] <bindi> daftykins: i dont have a kb attached to the pc
[01:16] <shyni> http://pastebin.com/DQJWE485
[01:16] <bindi> just a bt one. doesnt work during boot time
[01:17] <shyni> (i'm on my regular install and not the liveusb right now, by the way)
[01:17] <shyni> lsusb still doesn't detect anything
[01:17] <daftykins> bindi: then you're going to need to resolve that.
[01:17] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: I am back to think'n .. I be back soonest.
[01:18] <daftykins> shyni: kernel and ubuntu version?
[01:18] <bindi> daftykins: you're saying 3.13 is *not* latest for 14.04.2?
[01:18] <shyni> ubuntu 14.04
[01:18] <bindi> daftykins: is there no command for doing that shift thingy?
[01:20] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: As 'perl' is a package, how 'bout -> sudo dpkg-reconfigure perl <- see what the system reports ?
[01:20] <daftykins> bindi: this is prior to the OS loading, you can't run a command from nothing...
[01:20] <daftykins> bindi: just resolve the default.
[01:20] <daftykins> shyni: and kernel? "uname -r"
[01:20] <DANtheBEASTman> Bashing-om: http://sprunge.us/VLOc
[01:21] <shyni> 3.13.0-49-generic
[01:21] <daftykins> shyni: ok well at least you're up to date, anywho it's too late for me to help really - but what i had been after was 'dmesg' , not 'dmesg | grep usb' :P
[01:21] <shyni> oh
[01:21] <daftykins> read the output and it might give some clues, or maybe your hardware is just too new i don't know, i don't have time now to ask further questions
[01:22] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: look'n at http://sprunge.us/VLOc .
[01:22] <shyni> wow it's actually too big for the terminal or something
[01:23] <DANtheBEASTman> shyni: pipe it to less
[01:23] <daftykins> or into a file in ~ to read with a text editor
[01:23] <shyni> how do I do that?
[01:23] <daftykins> shyni: hang on when you boot from live, are you booting 14.04.1 or 14.04.2?
[01:23] <DANtheBEASTman> shyni: dmesg | less
[01:23] <bindi> daftykins: i'm pretty sure 3.13 is latest for 14.04.2
[01:24] <DANtheBEASTman> shyni: fwiw, you could've reinstalled by now
[01:24] <daftykins> bindi: you're ignoring the minor version of -49.
[01:24] <shyni> daftykins: not sure
[01:25] <daftykins> bindi: and you're also wrong, a dist-upgrade'd 14.04 will stay on 3.13 but a fresh installed 14.04.2 will install with the utopic HWE stack and thus use 3.16
[01:25] <shyni> http://pastebin.com/up22vgzS
[01:25] <bindi> daftykins: so can you help me get me to 3.16? :p
[01:26] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: Humm .. still screaming and hollering about that one file : my perl version: perl --version >> This is perl 5, version 18, subversion 2 (v5.18.2) built for x86_64-linux-gnu-th read-multi (with 41 registered patches, see perl -V for more detail) // Yours same ? maybe use my file ?
[01:26] <daftykins> bindi: no.
[01:27] <daftykins> bindi: also that's not what i said to do, i'm going now because you're paying 0 attention
[01:27] <DANtheBEASTman> yep, same file version, from what I can tell, but I also can't run perl --version
[01:27] <bindi> i'm paying attention, i just dont understand everything :| just because we're talking kernels and sh...stuff, you shouldn't assume i'm pro in this area
[01:27] <bindi> i know ubuntu and apt-get :D
[01:28] <[Saint]> Don't worry, there's no risk of anyone assuming you're a pro.
[01:28] <daftykins> ^
[01:28] <[Saint]> Far from it.
[01:28] <bindi> no shi...........stuff
[01:28] <DANtheBEASTman> shyni: do you have any experience with car mechanics? have you ever had a problem with a car, where you know exactly what the problem is, but you don't know what's causing it?
[01:28] <[Saint]> Why do people do this?
[01:29] <bindi> why do I do what, [Saint]?
[01:29] <shyni> no
[01:29] <bindi> hi thommey, got milk?
[01:29] <[Saint]> "Oh, wowzorz! Linux!"
[01:29] <[Saint]> "I know nothing about this, but I sure am going to jump right in and pretend!"
[01:29] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: Still, think it worth a shot, see what results, Back up your current file and mine: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10805102/ .
[01:29] <[Saint]> "Reading? nah....pffft!"
[01:29] <bindi> [Saint]: sure, i can do reading. but this is way too complex for me
[01:30] <shyni> fwiw this is what I get from opening my dmesg log in gedit http://pastebin.com/ra7ez8gi
[01:30] <[Saint]> I'm sure there's a shiny Windows install ready to welcome you back to it somewhere, or, you could take some time and do some research before diving into the deep end and wasting your time and the time of those trying to assist you.
[01:31] <daftykins> [Saint]: it's the ones that threaten to go back to Windows that make me laugh the most
[01:32] <DANtheBEASTman> shyni: well, that's exactly where you're at now, you have this problem, but you don't know how to fix it or what's causing it. standard-ops for this kind of thing in cars is to think of the most simple problem that could cause it, test that idea, fix it or move on to the next complex idea. it's all, test this, then test that. car owners and mechanics alike often wish that it was more feasible to just replace
[01:32] <DANtheBEASTman> everything, but that's very cost expensive. fortuntately, when it comes to computers, you can replace everything without it costing you much but your time.
[01:32] <jaysonl> Hi all.  Ubuntu 15.04 user here, wondering what else I have to do besides removing the usual "-nolisten TCP" bit I need to do in order to get X to listen on port 6000...
[01:32] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: -> apt-cache policy perl <- . mine : Installed: 5.18.2-2ubuntu1 .
[01:32] <bindi> [Saint]: nah, i dont think zfs runs that well on windows
[01:32] <daftykins> jaysonl: #ubuntu+1 for 15.04 as it's not out yet
[01:33] <jaysonl> daftkykins: aye aye, thank you
[01:33] <shyni> guess I should just transfer some files and then reinstall everything
[01:33] <shyni> ...?
[01:33] <DANtheBEASTman> point being, shyni, you can sit here and listen to these guys try and diagnose your problem from afar and wait for there answers, hoping it fixes it, or you could try making a list of your installed pakcages, back-up your configs, and reinstall.
[01:33] <[Saint]> bindi: ZFS?
[01:33] <[Saint]> Oh man, this just keeps getting better.
[01:33] <[Saint]> Have fun honey...
[01:34] <daftykins> lmao.
[01:34] <[Saint]> Filesystems that work?
[01:34] <DANtheBEASTman> shyni: i'm not saying it's your only option, but it's one to consider.
[01:34] <[Saint]> 'aint nobody gots time fo dat.
[01:34] <OerHeks> [Saint], so do you have a support question, or just here to troll ?
[01:37] <[Saint]> Discussing problematic new users that are wasting the time of those that are trying to help them by way of refusing to help themselves is trolling huh?
[01:37] <[Saint]> God I hate that word.
[01:37] <[Saint]> Anyway, cool story honey.
[01:37] <daftykins> basically, help, ask a question or go away
[01:37] <[Saint]> but you just...
[01:38] <daftykins> yes but now you're whinging on every line - that's not gonna fly.
[01:38] <bindi> so do you bash (Not the shell! i know that much, >:)) everyone who has a more complex question than "how do i ubuntu????" and tell them "blah blah blah, honey", [Saint]?
[01:38] <bindi> btw i think reiserfs is murderlike good. i just wanted to try out zfs as a close friend of mine personally recommended it for me over windows
[01:38]  * [n0mad] gets popcorn
[01:40] <bindi> i mean really, i had an ubuntu installation that worked fine, xbmc playing me my favourite series. then all of the sudden my syslog is spammed with that stuff i pasted earlier
[01:40] <bindi> you tell me my kernel has gone old during it's runtime
[01:40] <bindi> and it's my job as a linux user to read on "How the kernel works, part 1/3400234" and figure it out myself? :D
[01:40] <[n0mad]> could be
[01:41] <daftykins> i had said to make the -49 the default, but you've kinda flicked into time wasting on here instead of working on your problem
[01:41] <bindi> let's say i switched to ubuntu because "i dont like windows because x". i dont know what "switching to -49" means. can you help me with that?
[01:41] <[n0mad]> and i have no idea if you need to update your kernel, but here's information on upgrading it http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/08/install-upgrade-linux-kernel-3-16/
[01:41] <[n0mad]> there's also ones for 3.17 and 3.18
[01:42] <daftykins> bindi: i told you already, kernel 3.13.0-49 and AGAIN you're just being purposefully useless
[01:42] <daftykins> can't tolerate this lack of effort, go to bed and work on it when you're willing to lift a finger
[01:43] <daftykins> or perhaps one of the other channel volunteers is feeling particularly charitable this evening
[01:43] <rainbowwarrior> Hi All , I am using Ubuntu 14.10 and I can not find how to install DVDStyler 2.9.2 can someone please help ?
[01:45] <hkrrsx> rainbowwarrior: Looks like dvdstyler is in the universe repository
[01:45] <Ekips> Less of amusement here than I was promised
[01:46] <OerHeks> Ekips, the topic didn't promise you amusement, just ubuntu support.
[01:47] <Ekips> I'm not talking about the topic though :)
[01:48] <OerHeks> rainbowwarrior, install dvdstyler 2.7.2 from our repos (supported), or use the ppa for 2.9.2 ( no support ) https://launchpad.net/~ubuntuhandbook1/+archive/ubuntu/dvdstyler/+index?field.series_filter=
[01:49] <Ekips> Blame thommey, really
[01:49] <bindi> hey Ekips. do you have experience on reiserfs? i'm contemplating on changing to that
[01:49] <Ekips> ReiserFS is pretty dead
[01:49] <rainbowwarrior> OerHeks ok thank you
[01:50] <OerHeks> !reiserfs
[01:50] <Ekips> Like its proverbial wife
[01:50] <[n0mad]> mmm data loss
[01:50] <Ekips> That is correct though
[01:51] <Ekips> But when there was no ext4, ReiserFS was a great choice
[01:51] <Ekips> Nowadays, meh
[01:51] <dedhero0> hello
[01:51] <[Saint]> But it's edgy though, how many other filesystems were created by convicted murderers I wonder?
[01:52] <Ekips> Yeah, it has that going for it of course
[01:52] <bindi> !ot | Ekips
[01:53] <Ekips> Great, that's what I get for helping a drunk 12 year old for about an hour ^^
[01:54] <dedhero0> anyone thinking about upgrading to 15.04?
[01:54] <Guest40349> no
[01:54] <Guest40349> :p
[01:54] <OerHeks> dedhero0, sure, on the 27th
[01:55] <OerHeks> make sure you have the iso downloaded before upgrading, just in case .. :-)
[01:57] <dedhero0> I'm using 14.04 since its lts not sure about upgrading my PC. So far I have no problems and I like it this way :)
[01:58] <dedhero0> I have a laptop I use to test stuff on, I might install it on that
[01:59] <dedhero0> of course Oerheks.. just in case ;)
[02:02] <Rudi_STEiN> Ello.
[02:20]  * a1z3n wave hello
[02:22]  * a1z3n anyone going to talk in here?
[02:23] <daftykins> not until you ask a support question, as it's not a chat channel :)
[02:24]  * a1z3n thank you... how do I get to a chat channel, or any channel for that matter? 
[02:24] <daftykins> !ot
[02:24] <Ekips> You might want to start considering typing text and pressing "enter" without preceding it with a /me when not performing an action, too
[02:25] <Ekips> Which is just a general hint, not a Ubuntu related one
[02:25] <a1z3n> sorry... just started using Ubuntu - switching from windows... finally
[02:26] <a1z3n> #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:27] <daftykins> "/join #channel-name"
[02:27] <Ekips> Or, you know, type it and doubleclick it, it seems
[02:28] <daftykins> Ekips: you can drop your rude approach now :)
[02:28] <Ekips> Even when it's mentioned a few lines higher up
[02:28] <Ekips> Hey, I'm at my friendliest here ;)
[02:33] <gr33n7007h> Anyone with a router (ralink/broadcom) chipset with wps enabled might want to turn wps off pdq!
[02:39] <zerowaitstate> gr33n7007h: i always turn WPS off
[02:39] <hollowsoul> can some one help me beable to play a dvd i bought on ubuntu
[02:40] <zerowaitstate> hollowsoul: dvd's are a can of drm worms
[02:40] <OerHeks> hollowsoul, did you look at the dvd wiki, for css encryption ?
[02:40] <OerHeks> !dvd
[02:40] <hollowsoul> no i didn't know where to look
[02:40] <[Saint]> and now you do.
[02:41] <OerHeks> install restricted extra's, sudo apt-get install libdvdread4 && sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh ( no need to reboot AFAIK )
[02:41] <OerHeks> and restart your mediaplayer
[02:49] <nullfaith> o/
[02:49] <zerowaitstate> o7
[02:50] <nullfaith> Just started using ubuntu mate on my new laptop, so i think I am allowed to hang out in here now. XD
[02:51] <hollowsoul> i am having issues with editing my sources.list file
[02:52] <nullfaith> What is the issue hollowsoul ?
[02:52] <hollowsoul> i get the error 6960
[02:53] <daftykins> ¬_¬
[02:53] <hollowsoul> i must be adding the lines in wrong or some thing
[02:53] <daftykins> so show what you're doing via http://paste.ubuntu.com
[02:53] <daftykins> we can't look over your shoulder
[02:53] <hollowsoul> are they sopose to be at the end
[02:54] <hollowsoul> or beginning
[02:54] <[Saint]> Is this still the DVD thing?
[02:54] <[Saint]> If so, you've no need to be touching sources.list at all.
[02:56] <[Saint]> If not, you're going to have to tell someone what it is you're actually doing, because being as vague as you are makes it really hard to help at all.
[02:56] <hollowsoul> just trying to get a dvd to play on my ubuntu
[02:57] <hollowsoul> i would like to just watch a movie
[02:57] <[Saint]> Then follow the instruction you were given.
[02:57] <[Saint]> At no pint did anyone instuct you to piss around with sources.list.
[02:57] <daftykins> [Saint]: drop the attitude
[02:58] <Ekips> Install vlc, watch DVD, the end?
[02:58] <hollowsoul> thats what the vlan thing told me to do
[02:58] <fallen_> fuck that, hack then talk lol
[02:59] <[Saint]> daftykins: stop assuming there is one - I may be blunt, but I'm blunt because it leads to less confusion in the long run.
[03:00] <fallen_> by the way when you edit the sources.lst file DO NOT delete the # hyphen's
[03:00] <daftykins> [Saint]: whatever you think you're being, i'm telling you you're not coming across well in a volunteer help channel. so if you can't put in the effort to be nice, leave.
[03:00] <[Saint]> I can either be nice, or I can get shit done.
[03:00] <[Saint]> When a user clearly isn;t listening, being nice already failed.
[03:01] <daftykins> [Saint]: i don't see you getting anything done, also don't use that language here please.
[03:02] <daftykins> either follow the rules or hop it :)
[03:02] <hollowsoul> i am sorry i don't intend to be mean
[03:02] <hollowsoul> i would much rather be nice
[03:02] <hollowsoul> i don't do well is social interaction
[03:03] <[Saint]> Apparently White Knight over there read tone into my reply that simply wasn't there, but, hey - it happens.
[03:03] <OerHeks> hollowsoul, what "vlan thing told me to do" ?  i read nowhere about editting sources:
[03:03] <[Saint]> I've been trying to tell you that you've already been told exactly what you have to do.
[03:03] <[Saint]> And there's even a link been provided.
[03:03] <[Saint]> install one package, run one script.
[03:03] <OerHeks> and btw, not all dvd's will work on linux.
[03:04] <OerHeks> try a 2nd dvd to test
[03:04] <hollowsoul> o ok
[03:04] <[Saint]> I'm not even sure the dvdread package has been installed yet.
[03:04] <[Saint]> I'm gonna guess no.
[03:05] <OerHeks> [Saint], yeah, i typed it all out, what could be not clear
[03:05] <[Saint]> and I'm the bad guy for being blunt about it.
[03:05] <[Saint]> such is life.
[03:05] <[Saint]> Not here to hold hands and sing songs.
[03:05] <hollowsoul> i was on a website that told me to do that
[03:05] <hollowsoul> to get some thing for vlan
[03:06] <[Saint]> yeah, well, that's nice - but OerHeks told you exactly what to do.
[03:06] <[Saint]> and you've ignored him and now are wasting time.
[03:06] <hollowsoul> ok i will try a different dvd
[03:06] <[Saint]> "sudo apt-get install libdvdread4 && sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh"
[03:06] <[Saint]> do it.
[03:06] <[Saint]> reboot the media player, and try a DVD.
[03:08] <[Saint]> You can try as many DVDs as you want but it won't work at all until you enter the command given above from the link given earlier.
[03:08] <linuxuz3r> linux is so nice
[03:09] <hollowsoul> thanks much help
[03:09] <hollowsoul> it works
[03:09] <OerHeks> hollowsoul, have fun
[03:09] <hollowsoul> sorry i was being a pain
[03:09] <hollowsoul> :(
[03:13] <[Saint]> Now this is the old channel I remember...being berated by people with foul mouths over PM.
[03:13] <[Saint]> Things haven't changed.
[03:14] <daftykins> !ot | [Saint]
[03:15] <[Saint]> Now guess who it was.
[03:16] <redpanda> Pando: O.o
[03:16] <di_giorgio> Mp3player [1. 31.12] CeBoLiNhA 2014
[03:17] <fallen_> whois Saint
[03:18] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[03:18] <daftykins> o/
[03:19] <daftykins> wb lotuspsychje
[03:19] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: hello mate
[03:19] <OerHeks> :-)
[03:19] <fallen_> lotus now there's a name I haven't heard in a while
[03:19] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks, daftykins wanna join #ubuntu-discuss ?
[03:20] <daftykins> mmm couldn't hurt
[03:25] <Osmodivs> Hello. I cant caccess my other IDE HDDs, I am in a ATA 2.5" with a 32bit system, I need to access my other 64bit Ubuntu-Gnome, but when it boots they are not reckognized in the BIOS, and in GRUB I can see something like this: Ubuntu, with Linux 3.13.0-44 generic --class ubuntu --class os 'gnu
[03:25] <rockstar_> any suggestion to mount sdcard in Ubuntu LTS?
[03:25] <rockstar_> echo 1 | sudo tee /sys/bus/pci/rescan didn't work
[03:26] <redpanda> another Pando :)
[03:28] <hkrrsx> Osmodivs: Check the IDE cable connection, re-seat and try again. If the BIOS isn't recognizing the drive, the operating system won't either.
[03:29] <Osmodivs> And when I select one of them i get this: error: no such device: (010101010 numbers and numbers 010101010101) error: hd1 cannot get C/H/S/ values error: you need to load the kernel first
[03:29] <zykotick9> hkrrsx: +1
[03:32] <Osmodivs> hkrrsx, I did that. I have to mention that I used boot fixer or grub fixer, so I could load Windows 8.1 on dual boot, wich by the way, it did not worked
[03:33] <bondrs> hi there
[03:34] <hkrrsx> Osmodivs: What's the output of "fdisk -l"? 10 out of 10 says the drive won't be there if the BIOS is still not recognizing it .... meaning this ss a hardware problem
[03:35] <hkrrsx> Osmodivs: If the BIOS still isn't recognizing the drive, try changing the IDE cable
[03:41] <zerowaitstate> this sounds like a UEFI/locked boot loader thing
[03:41] <OerHeks> UEFI and IDE? not sure that exists
[03:44] <zerowaitstate> I haven't seen an IDE box in several years
[03:44] <zerowaitstate> or PATA anyway
[03:47] <iampoz> hi everyone. I am having an issue with my computer that I am unsure about
[03:48] <iampoz> it does not respond during boot and hangs up some place
[03:48] <hkrrsx> iampoz: What's on the screen when it hangs?
[03:48] <iampoz> the only thing I have been able to pull out of it is this line: starting SMB/CIFS and active directory server           [fail]
[03:49] <iampoz> ubuntu boot screen
[03:49] <hkrrsx> iampoz: Can you boot into Recovery Mode?
[03:49] <iampoz> unless I do the recovery option in grub, then i see all the lines of services starting and such. the one above is the only one that fails
[03:49] <iampoz> after a few more lines, it just.. stops
[03:50] <iampoz> I am wondering if there are any other recovery options... If i put ubuntu 14.04 onto a stick, is there a repair option?
[03:51] <hkrrsx> iampoz: Can you get to a command prompt in Recovery Mode ?
[03:52] <iampoz> no, i dont think so. when it hangs, I can do ctrl alt F2-F8 but it just yields a small flashing courser in the top left. it does not let me do anything. F1 takes me back to the screen with all the services starting up
[03:54] <hkrrsx> iampoz: Do you have this machine with you now within arm's reach ?
[03:54] <hkrrsx> If so, please try to get into Recovery Mode and get to a terminal prompt
[03:54] <[Saint]> you could boot from a live distro and then mount the disk in the host and pivot into it.
[03:54] <iampoz> well it is just in the other room, but yeah kinda
[03:55] <hkrrsx> iampoz: Go for it. Let us know what happens.
[03:55] <iampoz> I tryed to get into recovery mode already... did not work. maybe you are meaning something else?
[03:55] <iampoz> [Saint] what do you mean "pivot into it"
[03:56] <[Saint]> pivot_root
[03:57] <delinquentme> I want to give my user "postgres" access to /mnt
[03:57] <delinquentme> should I NOT chown this to postgres?
[03:57] <hkrrsx> iampoz: I'm trying to get you to the point where you can run this command " sudo sysv-rc-conf samba off ". This should get the machine to finish booting b/c SMB/CIFS is failing.
[03:58] <hkrrsx> iampoz: You should be able to boot into single user mode with these instructions:   http://askubuntu.com/questions/132965/how-do-i-boot-into-single-user-mode-from-grub
[04:00] <iampoz> awesome, I will try that. I will report back here as soon as possible
[04:00] <hkrrsx> iampoz: Best of luck.
[04:21] <RichardBronosky> Using the default terminal... Is there a key combo to allow you to select text if you are running an app that recognizes and responds to mouse clicks?
[04:22] <RichardBronosky> jpterm (jmespath-terminal) is an example of such an app.
[04:23] <hkrrsx> RichardBronosky: Shift+Ctrl+C copies previously highlighted text in gnome-terminal
[04:23] <[Saint]> shift+ctrl+c copy
[04:23] <[Saint]> pretty sure the term even tells you that.
[04:23]  * [Saint] looks
[04:23] <[Saint]> yep, yes it does.
[04:23] <RichardBronosky> the problem is that you can't select text.
[04:24] <hkrrsx> RichardBronosky: You can use the mouse to highlight text as per usual
[04:24] <RichardBronosky> not in an urwid based app. http://excess.org/urwid/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
[04:25] <zykotick9> RichardBronosky: tmux, as an example, has shift+mouse for highlighting, i've never heard of jmespath-terminal so have no idea about it...
[04:25] <hkrrsx> RichardBronosky: So you want to use VIM-style keys to highlight text and then SHIFT+CTRL+C to copy ?
[04:26] <RichardBronosky> What it says about shift-click in that FAQ does not always work depending on how the app was coded.
[04:26] <[Saint]> ctrl+u?
[04:26] <[Saint]> and it's friend, ctrl+y
[04:27] <[Saint]> oh, hmmm. no, as assumedly you want to paste outside the term.
[04:28] <RichardBronosky> Ugh. I'm on a Mac. I wish I had an Ubuntu machine around. (I'm writing documentation and want to explain how to do this.)
[04:28] <ShrewdSpirit> hello. I've installed Elementary OS which is Ubuntu based. when I try install AMD proprietary drivers from additional drivers, it revert's back to open source drivers
[04:28] <ShrewdSpirit> sorry English isn't my native language
[04:28] <[Saint]> Its a bit of a hack but you could do "bind '"\C-p": "\C-e\C-u xsel <<"EOF"\n\C-y\nEOF\n\C-y"'"
[04:28] <OerHeks> !elementary
[04:28] <[Saint]> then "copy" with ctrl+p
[04:29] <OerHeks> elementary has its own issues ShrewdSpirit
[04:29] <[Saint]> and "paste" with "xsel"
[04:29] <ShrewdSpirit> OerHeks: thank you. I didn't know they have a channel
[04:29] <[Saint]> But that'll only select the entire line.
[04:30] <SchrodingersScat> screen has a copy mode, iirc it's ctrl-a-esc
[04:32] <RichardBronosky> yeah, that would be a work around. but I don't want to have to make the instructions for this app have to tell people to run GNU screen or modify their bindings.
[04:32] <RichardBronosky> in iterm on the mac its just "Opt+click/drag" to select without registering a click.
[04:33] <RichardBronosky> I know this is weird because MOST terminal applications are not mouse aware. This one is.
[04:33]  * hkrrsx is not familiar with substituting a keyboard key for left mouse click
[04:34] <RichardBronosky> the goal is not to use the keyboard instead of the mouse.
[04:34] <RichardBronosky> it is to instruct the terminal to not pass mouse events to the running app which is listening for mouse events.
[04:36] <RichardBronosky> I think some ncurses apps allow you to click the "buttons" using your mouse. which is like this app.
[04:36] <hkrrsx> So you want to "click" without the app recognizing that a click took place? Kinda like click cloak or something?
[04:37] <RichardBronosky> but if someone wants to copy the text on the button without clicking it, you have to stop the terminal from passing the event.
[04:37] <hkrrsx> Sorry, this sounds beyond the scope of this support channel ....
[04:38] <hkrrsx> I'm not familiar with anything that does what you're asking
[04:38] <RichardBronosky> it very well may be a shift-click. would make sense since adding shift to ctrl-c will copy and adding shift to ctrl-v will paste.
[04:39] <RichardBronosky> I don't need a tool that does this. I'm nearly positive that the terminal should be able to do this out of the box. It's just really hard to google for.
[04:42] <Codenomics> I just installed ubuntu on my machine and it is failing installing GRUB and not sure what I should do at this point
[04:43] <Codenomics> nevermind... I just accidentally hit the "finish the install" option lol
[04:44] <Codenomics> ok, so new issue then.. lol I have a fresh ubuntu install on my computer with no GRUb.
[04:45] <SchrodingersScat> !bootrepair | Codenomics ??
[04:46] <Codenomics> oh score. Thanks SchrodingersScat I was just going to load a liveCD and install grub that way
[04:46] <OerHeks> Codenomics, on what machine? UEFI bios ?
[04:46] <RichardBronosky> Thanks for the effort. I'm going to download http://virtualboxes.org/images/ubuntu/ and try it myself.
[04:47] <Codenomics> OerHeks: no clue actually... just some random dell
[04:47] <hkrrsx> RichardBronosky: Best of luck
[04:47] <Codenomics> OerHeks: new-=ish inspiron
[04:51] <thorie> anyone know why my keyboard doesn't work completely in ubuntu? i have a macbook pro running 14.04 and many keys don't work such as "o", "t", "i", "u", "y" ... but other keys work fine. if i reboot into Mac OS X of course all keys work. any ideas?
[04:52] <hkrrsx> thorie: Check your keyboard layout ?
[04:53] <cfhowlett> thorie, suspect your keyboard settings are incorrect
[04:57] <thorie> thanks, trying to change it...
[05:01] <Codenomics> stupid windows crashing
[05:06] <Codenomics> so I was just going to install GRUB from a livecd which is no big deal normally... but I have this setup with a software RAID and in the livecd it is showing all of the drives... not sure where I need to be installing this to
[05:07] <hkrrsx> Codenomics: Wouldn't the software RAID be md0 ?
[05:07] <zerowaitstate> Codenomics: software raid means the OS is doing the RAID
[05:08] <Codenomics> hkrrsx: oh yeah... herp.. Thanks
[05:08] <Codenomics> zerowaitstate: I know
[05:09] <hkrrsx> Word.
[05:09] <Codenomics> hkrrsx: yeah... that wont work if it is not booted into the OS lol
[05:11] <hkrrsx> Codenomics: I'm clearly missing something .... why are you installing GRUB on a system that you're already booted into?
[05:11] <hkrrsx> Are you using LILO or something?
[05:11] <Codenomics> I am not booted into it
[05:11] <wbill> anyone have a easy solution for being able to save multiple terminal tabs (or just have them op0en when I open terminal) i Ubuntu?
[05:12] <j_> hello, is there any way to move the panel in mint to the right or left?
[05:12] <hkrrsx> Eff. Reading comprehension was my weak spot in grade school.
[05:12] <cfhowlett> !mint | j_, ask mint.  not supported here.
[05:12] <hkrrsx> Codenomics: Check this out --  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
[05:13] <j_> oh i see thanks
[05:13] <hkrrsx> If you search that page for "mdadm", it should hopefully give you what you're looking for
[05:13] <wbill> besdies install byobu or similar?
[05:14] <Codenomics> yeah someone mentioned that to me looking into that right now
[05:18] <hollowsoul> can some one help me with getting wow to work on ubuntu
[05:18] <hollowsoul> i am running it with wine
[05:18] <hkrrsx> wbill: This was the only thing I found in a search for your issue -- http://askubuntu.com/questions/310705/some-fast-way-to-save-and-restore-tabs-of-terminal#310750
[05:19] <cfhowlett> hollowsoul, http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrTccE5ACpVMd0ATUknnIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTByb3B2a242BHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMwRjb2xvA2dxMQR2dGlkAw--/RV=2/RE=1428844729/RO=10/RU=https%3a%2f%2fhelp.ubuntu.com%2fcommunity%2fWorldofWarcraft/RK=0/RS=M7BuVwPhzx7SK7ILynje2J4Qdow-
[05:21] <iampoz> hkrrsx, that did not work
[05:22] <hkrrsx> iampoz: So you turned off samba, rebooted your machine and it still failed?
[05:23] <iampoz> i set it to single and it still hung up. but I saw three more failed lines. I tryed to take a video of it but it is so fast... I am putting the video on my computer now and try to make out the text
[05:24] <hkrrsx> iampoz: Do me a favor, do those steps all over again but with 1 difference
[05:24] <hkrrsx> At the end where you typed "single", type in " init=/bin/bash "
[05:24] <hkrrsx> Then boot and you should get to a command prompt before any services start
[05:24] <iampoz> okay, do i still also put 'single'?
[05:25] <hkrrsx> No, replace single with init=/bin/bash
[05:25] <hkrrsx> Afterwards, turn off Samba and reboot normally
[05:25] <iampoz> okay
[05:28] <wbill> ok ty
[05:28] <wbill> thanks hkrrsx
[05:28] <hkrrsx> wbill: You're welcome
[05:29] <iampoz> hkrrsx, okay i got to a command line, root@(none):/# with a flashing cursor, but I can not type any text... my keyboard is lit up so it appears to be working... but nothing shows up when I type
[05:30] <hkrrsx> Unplug and replug the keyboard?
[05:30] <iampoz> okay
[05:32] <iampoz> still nothing. there are two lines above the command line... "bash: cannot set terminal process group (-1): Inappropriate loctl for device" && "bash: no job control in this shell"
[05:33] <hkrrsx> Can you CTRL+ALT+DEL to reboot the machine gracefully? Even though nothing's being outputted to the screen
[05:33] <hollowsoul> how do i reinstall msfonts
[05:34] <iampoz> no, no effect
[05:34] <iampoz> I am uploading a picture with the failed lines during the "single" attempt
[05:35] <hkrrsx> iampoz: Great, afterwards, please power down the Ubuntu machine by holding the power button down until the machine turns off
[05:35] <ilken> ctrl+alt+F1
[05:35] <hkrrsx> Then bring it back up normally
[05:35] <iampoz> http://picbin.org/src/943
[05:36] <hkrrsx> hollowsoul: Try " sudo apt-get install --reinstall msttcorefonts "
[05:36] <hkrrsx> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-install-microsoft-core-fonts-in-ubuntu-linux/
[05:37] <OerHeks> hollowsoul, msfonts are part of restricted extras
[05:37] <hollowsoul> o ok
[05:37] <hkrrsx> iampoz: That picture continues the boot process even though a couple of things fail
[05:39] <iampoz> hkrrsx, that is true. but then it just stops... I will grab a photo of it when it stops on my next attempt
[05:39] <hkrrsx> iampoz: Please get a clear photo .... the 1st one is pretty difficult to ready
[05:39] <hkrrsx> read*
[05:40] <iampoz> hkrrsx, what am I supposed to do when I bring it back on normally?
[05:40] <hkrrsx> Well, you said it was freezing at a certain point and that you'd get a picture of it .... I'll wait for that
[05:41] <hkrrsx> iampoz: We only really need the last dozen lines or so
[05:41] <iampoz> I know, i have a recoding of it, I skipped frame by frame until I for a clean shot of the failed lines. it goes to fast to get a clean shot of that screen, but there are a few lines on the last one... I will get a picture of that right now.
[05:41] <iampoz> okay
[05:41] <q_zone> can someone help me with a permission issue?
[05:41] <hkrrsx> iampoz: Thanks
[05:41] <dreamon> Using Ubuntu 14.04 and encfs crypted /home partition and a normal / partition on SSD. if I install 14.04 from new on SSD, how can I do so /home is mounted automatic like before? I dont want to format /home just mounted again like before
[05:42] <hkrrsx> !ask | q_zone
[05:43] <q_zone> i can't view pictures in my browser while testing a project.What is the permission missing?
[05:43] <malkauns> !patience
[05:43] <hkrrsx> q_zone: Are these pictures on your local computer or on a website somewhere?
[05:44] <q_zone> yeah,in my local computer
[05:44] <iampoz> hkrrsx, here it is: http://picbin.org/src/944
[05:44] <hkrrsx> Try " file:///path/to/picture " .... note, there are 3 forward slashes in file:///
[05:45] <hkrrsx> q_zone: That's just to test if the picture will come up alone outside of your website coding
[05:45] <OerHeks> q_zone, maybe you need some codecs and webstuff, did you install restricted extras ?
[05:45] <hkrrsx> iampoz: Excellent picture, thank you
[05:45] <hkrrsx> iampoz: What happens if you boot your computer with the network cables unplugged?
[05:47] <q_zone> hkrrsx: I get the following message ,when i tested the image :https://dpaste.de/Mowv
[05:48] <hkrrsx> q_zone: chmod  755 /shopping_cart/images/*.jpg
[05:49] <hkrrsx> q_zone: You might want to repeat that command for *.png as well, if you have those types of images in that folder
[05:50] <q_zone> hkrrsx: yeah,it worked ...thanks
[05:50] <hkrrsx> q_zone: You're welcome
[05:52] <cool_boy> hi
[05:52] <cool_boy> how to connect ipv6 through ssh
[05:52] <cool_boy> ?
[05:52] <hkrrsx> cool_boy: The same way you'd connect via ipv4 only with an ipv6 address
[05:53] <hkrrsx> cool_boy: Does the SSH server have an IPv6 address ?
[05:55] <cool_boy> hkrrsx: I am not getting how to coneect with this server, all I can see is only this screen http://postimg.org/image/efum9a42f/
[05:55] <iampoz> hkrrsx, with out the network connected, it stops at the third last line, the one about plymouth and ends in respawning.
[05:56] <iampoz> also a few more lines appeared on the screen when I went to go reboot without network. I am putting those on picbin now
[05:56] <cool_boy> hkrrsx: thanks, I found way ?)
[05:58] <hkrrsx> cool_boy: Excellent, I was about to give you this YouTube video:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJghYtfnkEc
[05:58] <omich> how I can recovery deleted ntfs partition? testdisk didn't help
[05:58] <iampoz> hkrrsx: http://picbin.org/src/945 - this is after it was left for about 5 mins or so
[05:58] <cool_boy> :)
[05:58] <cool_boy> thanks
[05:59] <iampoz> hkrrsx, this is without network: http://picbin.org/src/946
[05:59] <cool_boy> htop is not standard command of ubuntu
[05:59] <cool_boy> ?
[05:59] <scrapcode> I have a folder on my desktop that is empty, properties says "Free Space: 2.5GB of 85.8GB (97% used)
[05:59] <hkrrsx> iampoz: Checking
[05:59] <NegativeFlare> cool_boy: no, but I wish it was xD
[05:59] <hkrrsx> cool_boy: No, htop has to be installed after-the-fact
[06:00] <cool_boy> NegativeFlare: now I am also in wish list :)
[06:00] <NegativeFlare> heh
[06:01] <lennonfan> :)
[06:02] <hkrrsx> iampoz: Have a look at this thread, #8 is the hopeful solution
[06:02] <hkrrsx> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2218100&p=13015297#post13015297
[06:03] <iampoz> haha I was just reading that.
[06:03] <hkrrsx> Wait .... you can't type in single user mode, can you?
[06:03] <omich> hey
[06:03] <goeranh> hi
[06:04] <hkrrsx> omich: goeranh: Welcome
[06:04] <goeranh> ty
[06:04] <nhat> hi
[06:04] <omich> how I can recovery deleted ntfs partition? testdisk didn't help
[06:04] <hkrrsx> iampoz: Perhaps if you boot from a LiveCD, mount your hard drive and then made the modifications that way
[06:04] <iampoz> no, I can not type in any mode so far
[06:05] <iampoz> ahh, that is a good idea
[06:05] <cool_boy> also can`t we get htop from apt-get? I am trying sudo apt-get install htop but I get "E: Unable to locate package htop"
[06:05] <hkrrsx> iampoz: Give it a shot and see what happens
[06:05] <hkrrsx> iampoz: I hope something works for you soon b/c I'm running out of options
[06:05] <goeranh> use gparted
[06:06] <iampoz> there are a number of things I can try in that thread
[06:07] <goeranh> yes
[06:07] <hkrrsx> Sorry, I logged myself out w/ a keyboard shortcut
[06:07] <nhat> exit
[06:12] <[Saint]> cool_boy: it *is* available.
[06:12] <iampoz> now I just have to remember how to make a ubuntu stick... but it is 12 so I have to go to bed
[06:13] <iampoz> hkrrsx, do you work for canonical?
[06:13] <hkrrsx> iampoz: I do not
[06:13] <[Saint]> cool_boy: see? http://pastebin.com/SwCkvHPR
[06:13] <hkrrsx> I work for a web hosting company in my hometown
[06:13] <[Saint]> Ah crap, I snipped off the install line.
[06:14] <[Saint]> either way, htop is definitely an installable package in a default install.
[06:14] <iampoz> in that case, I appreciate your assistance even more so
[06:14] <[Saint]> just ask apt-cache about it.
[06:14] <[Saint]> "apt-cacahe search htop"
[06:14] <hkrrsx> iampoz: I hope it goes well for you
[06:15] <iampoz> thanks a lot! hopefully I figure it out tomorrow. it will take a few days to get my machine back to how I like it...
[06:15] <iampoz> if I have to reformat it, i mean...
[06:15] <iampoz> bye!
[06:15] <hkrrsx> cool_boy: It's in the Universe repository but here's the packages.ubuntu.com URL
[06:15] <hkrrsx> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=htop&searchon=names&suite=trusty&section=all
[06:15] <[Saint]> Next time: backups.
[06:15] <cool_boy> [Saint]: thanks, after upgrade its working now
[06:16] <cool_boy> thanks hkrrsx , got it working
[06:16]  * hollowsoul crying right now
[06:16] <hkrrsx> Marvelous
[06:17] <hollowsoul> how do i reinstall ubuntu
[06:17] <hollowsoul> i need a fresh copy
[06:17] <[Saint]> Samw way you instaleld it the first time.
[06:18] <iampoz> haha, yes. I should have made a back up. I was lazy. I knew as I was messing around with it today: "you should clone your system before you do this..." but then I was like "nah, it will be fine... I am sure of it..." I am not sure why, it is never fine. I have a nice clonezilla stick and enough space on one of the hard drives, would have been a snap and only taken an hour. damn.
[06:18] <[Saint]> jesus, can't type.
[06:18] <[Saint]> *same way you installed it the first time
[06:18] <hkrrsx> iampoz: "There are 2 types of people: Those who make backups and those who have never re-installed their system." - Unknown
[06:18] <hkrrsx> :)
[06:19] <[Saint]> I...what?
[06:19] <iampoz> I am the back up guy 95% of the time... it is that 5% that gets me every time.
[06:28] <hkrrsx> I'm done for tonight
[06:28] <hkrrsx> Night
[06:30] <shyni> hello
[06:30] <shyni> earlier I reinstalled my Ubuntu distro because it couldn't detect any USB devices
[06:30] <shyni> things were working again
[06:30] <shyni> but now I have the same problem all over again after updating
[06:31] <shyni> so I'm assuming something went wrong with the update
[06:31] <shyni> I think I started having this problem after updating last night
[06:32] <shyni> was there anything potentially breaking in the recent updates?
[06:33] <varaindemian> is there any other way I can enable hardware  acceleration without installing proprietary drivers?
[06:34] <varaindemian> I have ATI Radeon 8600m series
[06:34] <varaindemian> On 14.10 I have hardware acc by default but this is not case of 14.04.2
[06:35] <varaindemian> I have some visual glitches when I move windows and when I scroll
[06:45] <shyni> http://pastebin.com/zeepayd5 okay, looking at the dmesg output, this thing /is/ detecting the devices
[06:45] <shyni> but not doing anything with them
[06:53] <shyni> uh
[06:53] <shyni> is anyone here?
[06:53] <Elench> I'm here, though I don't know if I'm likely to be able to help
[06:55] <shyni> well, my computer can't detect any usb devices
[06:55] <shyni> none of them appear in lsusb
[06:55] <shyni> but dmesg turns up at least one
[06:56] <shyni> this is definitely a software thing
[06:56] <shyni> since it can detect devices when I booted from a liveusb
[06:56] <shyni> and things worked after I reinstalled Ubuntu
[06:56] <shyni> but then it stopped working after I updated
[06:56] <aeon-ltd> guessing here, but maybe some kind of security measure?
[06:57] <shyni> what kind would disable all usb devices?
[06:57] <aeon-ltd> no idea
[06:57] <aeon-ltd> do keyboard and mouse work?
[06:58] <shyni> built-in keyboard and trackpad work
[06:58] <shyni> usb mouse lights up
[06:58] <shyni> but does nothing
[07:00] <shyni> http://pastebin.com/zeepayd5 here's the dmesg log
[07:01] <shyni> "[    1.760250] usb 2-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=1, SerialNumber=0
[07:01] <shyni> [    1.760253] usb 2-1: Product:  USB OPTICAL MOUSE"
[07:01] <shyni> the mouse does not show up in lsusb
[07:06] <brunch875> Good morning in the morning!
[07:08] <mehdi> hey guys, well adobe embargoed my country and i cant install flash player but i managed to get libflashplayer.so, where should i put this file in order to be used system-wide
[07:08] <mehdi> i dont want it to be available on firefox only
[07:08] <shyni> http://askubuntu.com/questions/608289/usb-devices-not-detected I asked on askubuntu
[07:38] <fendell> hello, is there a problem with the se.archive.ubuntu.com (130.239.18.173) apt-get update stops there for me atm
[07:40] <gunnar> fendell: Have you tried pingin that ip address
[07:41] <fendell> gunnar, yes no response just have to wait until its up agian?
[07:42] <gunnar> Yeah, since your internet connection is up and running it just means that server is down.  Just use another mirror.
[07:43] <gunnar> fendell: I raan into the same situation with a local mirror for me.  These kind of mirror don't sem to have a long life cycle.  :)
[07:44] <fendell> gunnar, well this is my first time something like this has happened. But easy fix, thanks gunnar
[07:44] <gunnar> fendel: No worries, stay strong! :P
[07:45] <gunnar> fendell: No worries, stay strong! :P
[07:47] <geirha> fendell: You could try #ubuntu-se  maybe someone knows someone who knows someone who maintains the mirror :)
[07:47] <geirha> If you are impatient, you can switch to the main archive though
[07:48] <gunnar> Seems like he alreadyd did that, so problem solved as far as he's concerned.  Right?
[07:54] <Gregor3000> hello. i have a porblme. the fan on the GPU is not spinning when i turn on the PC. yesterday i opened it to see why it's so quiet and why some games are freezing. i saw the fan was still. when iexited the game (minecraft) the fan started spinning. i think it hsoul dbe cooling off the cvard form the start as it is otherwise getting very hot.
[07:54] <Gregor3000> even the fan itself is hot
[07:54] <Gregor3000> is theer somethign i missed? opensource radeon drivers
[07:54] <Gregor3000> very old card
[07:56] <OerHeks> Gregor3000, first check your Bios, for fan settings
[07:57] <OerHeks> without proper drivers, your fans should run 100%
[07:57] <OerHeks> !lmsensors
[07:58] <gunnar> Gregor3000:  Not sure if it's related, but I have the same problem on my box using several different cards.  I just slapped an old geforce 2 or something in there that only has a heatsync.
[07:58] <francesco_> cenerentola
[07:58] <MichaelHabib> Hi. is this a good place to get info on how to setup a basic home DNS server (Webmin + Bind) ?
[07:59] <MichaelHabib> I have ubuntu server + apache setup ready which I can access from IP adress
[07:59] <gunnar> MichaelHabib:  Read the ubuntu server guide.  It pretty much covers what you're trying to do.
[08:00] <MichaelHabib> gunnar: ty, will look into it
[08:01] <gunnar> No prob
[08:02] <vagelis> Good morning everyone.
[08:02] <maysara> Hi, I installed linux kernel 3.16. Is it okay to remove 3.13 packages and keep linux-*-lts-utopic packages? I'm using Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[08:04] <vagelis> I have some graphic problems with my new laptop. I installed ubuntu 14.04 LTS. My laptop has Intel hd graphics and AMD radeon card. The problem is that sometimes I see strange things in windows or in the browser etc its like when a graphics cards is alsmost dying and I beleive it has to do something with drivers. Also I do not see some characters, for exampe in titles of windows.
[08:04] <gunnar> maysara:  If you booted up on the new kernel I don't see any reason why not.  But don't hold me to that.
[08:05] <vagelis> For example now when i type here a message Instead of vagelis I see va elis
[08:05] <MichaelHabib> gunnar: i have another question, as this is my 1st time doing this & this is a home setup.
[08:05] <MichaelHabib> Will It be possible to point my computer to the DNS (Its a VM) so I can enter a domain name on my PC and it get resolved by this DNS server and look for the "fake" domain names I setup ?
[08:05] <OerHeks> maysara, you cannot delete current and precious kernel ( for recovery mode), all other kernels no problem
[08:05] <OerHeks> *previous
[08:06] <gunnar> MichaelHabib: Yes, you can just make a small domain for your group of PC's.
[08:06] <maysara> OerHeks: so both 3.13 and 3.16 kernels have to be installed?
[08:07] <gunnar> MichaelHabib: I've never tried it though and it will only work on your local lan.  Not from the wan.
[08:07] <OerHeks> maysara, if 3.13 is you previous kernel, yes
[08:07] <MichaelHabib> gunnar: thats all I need, lan access so I can also setup virtual hosts and test some software.
[08:07] <francesco__> cenerentola
[08:08] <francesco__> download cenerentola
[08:09] <gunnar> MichaelHabib: The server guide addresses how to set up a domain, however I don't know how the VM interacts with your OS.  So you might have to bridge the virtual adapter of the VM to the physical NIC.
[08:09] <OerHeks> francesco__, what is "cenerentola"  ? url ?
[08:09] <MichaelHabib> gunnar: its already bridged :)
[08:10] <Gregor3000> OerHeks: i rescanned with sensors. lets see if it will work now or not. motherboard is strange it seems. i wanted to install new GPU and couldn't get any to run. AMD didn't run at all (new ones dont' run on PCIe1.1), nvidia ran opensource only with poor performance while their drivers were rubish (no screen). already returned btoh card and now i am back to the old ATI one :-(
[08:11] <MichaelHabib> gunnar: the VM has its own IP 192.168.0.200  & I can access apache using this IP, but cant seem to find the correct way to setup DNS. I have changed the Primary DNS on my PC to that of the DNS server but I think something wron with my DNS config as the domain is not getting resolved
[08:11] <Gregor3000> nvidia support didnt' have a clue what is wrong
[08:13] <gunnar> MichaelHabib: You're going to have to tell your DNS server which domain names get translated into what.  If it doesn't have that info it naturally wont be doing anything.  Again the ubuntu server guide can help.  Just check out the part about making a caching DNS server.
[08:14] <OerHeks> Gregor3000, so you have a new pcix card in a 1.1 slot? that could be your issue, i have no solution for that
[08:14] <varaindemian> How can I edit swappiness
[08:15] <rexuss> varaindemian: http://askubuntu.com/questions/103915/how-do-i-configure-swappiness
[08:16] <deepu-vc> hi need help in adding kali linux tools to ubuntu please help
[08:17] <Gregor3000> OerHeks: nope. none of them worked. so i am back to old ATI radeon 9600 XT AGP card that worked with minecraft at least. if not much else...
[08:18] <rexuss> deepu-vc: have you tried this: http://malwaretips.com/threads/how-to-add-kali-linux-repositories-in-ubuntu.31312/
[08:20] <deepu-vc> rexuss i will try it and get back
[08:20] <OerHeks> !kali | deepu-vc
[08:20] <deepu-vc> do any one knows which is the best hacking channel in irc
[08:21] <OerHeks> deepu-vc, we dont support hacking.
[08:21] <maysara> OerHeks, gunnar: Thank you :)
[08:22] <OerHeks> maysara, have fun :-)
[08:22] <rexuss> deepu-vc: more importantly, google it first.
[08:23] <OerHeks> !rootirc | katherine
[08:24] <katherine> hehe, thanks for the heads up OerHeks, but I am not really running as root :)
[08:25] <OerHeks> oke, good
[08:27] <nalum> Hello all, I'm trying to setup the Nvidia NVS 510, but when I plug my monitor into it the monitor says there is no signal. The card is picked up by the Nvidia X Server Settings.
[08:28] <gunnar> nalum: Are you sure your X server is sending data to the correct display port?  NVS 510 is a multi monitor card right?
[08:29] <gunnar> nalum: Have you tried connecting your vga cable to another port on the card?
[08:29] <nalum> it is yes, I've tried the monitor in all ports
[08:30] <gunnar> nalum: Does your motherboard have an internal graphics card? If so have you disabled it via your bios?
[08:30] <nalum> The monitor works fine with my GTX 580 and I've verified that the convertor from DVI to display port works
[08:31] <nalum> The mother board is the rampage v extreme, it doesn't have a display port on it so I assumed it doesn't have built in graphics
[08:31] <gunnar> nalum: Ok
[08:31] <nalum> I can't see anything in the bios about displays either
[08:32] <OerHeks> nalum, Nvidia NVS 510, is supported by 346.59 or higher
[08:33] <OerHeks> i think you need the xorg edgers ppa for that ?
[08:33] <gunnar> nalum: Am i correct in assuming that you haven't made any changes to your xorg config between switching graphics cards?
[08:33] <nalum> gunnar: yes, I haven't made any changes to it.
[08:34] <gunnar> nalum: I'm no expert but I think that could be your problem.  Could you try running nvidia-xconfig as root with the NVS 510 inserted?
[08:34] <nalum> OerHeks: I have 304.125 installed. What is that ppa?
[08:35] <nalum> gunnar: I'll try that now
[08:35] <gunnar> nalum: OerHeks is right too, it could be that the driver version your running doesn't support the NVS 510.
[08:37] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[08:46] <francesco_> XChat: /load .xchat2/budus.so
[08:46] <francesco_>  /load .xchat2/budus.so
[08:48] <francesco_> cenerentola
[08:48] <coder_> #wget
[08:48] <OerHeks> !it | francesco_
[08:49] <francesco_> ATTENZIONE: Non e' stata intercettata la versione originale di lynx.
[08:49] <francesco_> Questo script e' in grado di funzionare sono con lynx e non links2.
[08:49] <nalum> gunnar, OerHeks: that hasn't worked, is there anything else I can look into on it?
[08:50] <gunnar> nalum:  Did you try download and building that ppa Orehes was talking about?
[08:50] <gunnar> OerHeks*
[08:50] <nalum> I used the additional drivers app to install it
[08:51] <OerHeks> nalum, that ppa gives the latest nvidia driver ( that will be included in vivid 15.04)
[08:51] <OerHeks> and then you find it in the same additional drivers tab
[08:51] <nalum> I have it installed
[08:51] <nalum> But the monitor is still not getting a signal
[08:52] <gunnar> and selected as the currently used drive in the additional drivers program?
[08:52] <gunnar> the ppa versionÐ
[08:52] <nalum> yes
[08:52] <nalum> I also ran the nvidia-xconfig command after the system rebooted
[08:53] <francesco_> welcom
[08:53] <gunnar> ahh this is getting clearer.  So you already have a monitor connected to the NVS 510, and your trying to configur an additional one?
[08:54] <francesco_> cenerentola
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> !it | francesco_
[08:54] <TheUndertaker> DasEi:hi
[08:55] <OerHeks> francesco_, please stop this one word lines, we don't know what you want, explain please
[08:55] <nalum> No, I only have one monitor available to me at the moment. So I have the GTX 580 installed and running fine. I have the NSV 510 installed also in another PCIE slot and I switch the monitor out of the GTX 580 to the NVS 510 to test it.
[08:56] <gunnar> so you have both cards physicly connected at the same time?
[08:56] <nalum> yes
[08:56] <nalum> and both are picked up by the settings app
[08:56] <gunnar> Try taking the GTX 580 out of the box, and rebooting.
[08:57] <nalum> Okay, will do that now
[08:57] <nalum> Hope it works. I've done it many times already, but not with the latest drivers from that ppa obviouly
[08:58] <gunnar> fingers crossed*
[08:58] <lotuspsychje> k1l: morning mate
[09:02] <gunnar> OerHeks: apparently cenerentola is cinderella in Italian?
[09:03] <Nokaji> Hi - I'm unable to change the icon-'FONT' in file menu, seems stuck around 6~8px. I've tweaked all four font settings and rebooted more times than I have fingers
[09:06] <OerHeks> gunnar, yes, i think so, but what would that be?
[09:06] <nalum> Ah, think I might have found it. So the display I have on hand is VGA, the convertor is DVI to MiniDisplay so I have a VGA to DIV between them and that seems to be where the problem is. I have just tried that setup on my macbook pro, which is seeing the monitor but the monitor is not getting the display.
[09:06] <lotuspsychje> !yay | nalum
[09:07] <nalum> Now I just need to verify that with a DVI monitor
[09:10] <gunnar> nalum: Not sure if helped you at all, but good you're making progress.
[09:11] <gunnar> OerHeks:  Maybe he's trying to start a bot or something...
[09:14] <robynata> :-D
[09:15] <yaclm> Hello! My laptop lags after startup and there is a huge delay for mouse and keyboard inputs. htop shows 50% cpu load (kernel) but doesn't show which command causes this huge load. any hints, keywords, solutions?
[09:15] <mouseover> Googling suggest that getting wireless to work on Broadcom cards requires another package ( bcmwl-kernel-source ). But the page here seems dead? http://packages.ubuntu.com/utopic/bcmwl-kernel-source
[09:18] <lotuspsychje> yaclm: ubuntu version?
[09:18] <nalum> gunnar: ya got me thinking, that's help enough :D
[09:19] <lotuspsychje> !info bcmwl-kernel-source | mouseover
[09:24] <Exagone313> Hello, I try to install "awesome" on Ubuntu server. First, I installed the package awesome, and after reboot I had a tty. So I installed lightdm, reboot, and I see the GUI of Unity connection, and when I write my password, it says "failed to start session". Also, I've a resolution problem that I didn't have before installing lightdm, both on tty and lightdm interface. My screen is like...
[09:24] <Exagone313> ..."zoomed". What can I do? Thanks for helping.
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> Exagone313: maybe the #awesome or #ubuntu-server guys might know?
[09:28] <Exagone313> ok
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> Exagone313: your endgoal is a window manager on ubuntu server?
[09:28] <Exagone313> yes
[09:29] <guestzzzz123> hi guys, are some vi masters in here?
[09:29] <Exagone313> it's not a server, i just don't want kde/gnome/unity/cinnamon/mate etc
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> Exagone313: maybe blackbox, or e17 are alternatives?
[09:29] <guestzzzz123> don't get why 2dd == d2d
[09:29] <Exagone313> but I want awesome
[09:30] <lotuspsychje> okay
[09:30] <Exagone313> I think I'm missing something, but idk what
[09:30] <mouseover> How do I know which packages are found on the Ubuntu install CD?
[09:31] <lotuspsychje> Exagone313: maybe press F1 at boot to see booting process, perhaps it will show usefull errors?
[09:31] <goeranh> read theyr website
[09:31] <Exagone313> apparently, it does not need "lightdm" but "lightdm-gtk-greeter"
[09:31] <lotuspsychje> Exagone313: or syslog/dmesg logs
[09:31] <Exagone313> the problem is my screen resolution, it is zoomed
[09:31] <mouseover> goeranh: I was looking, but where?
[09:31] <Exagone313> i can't see the topest/leftest
[09:31] <goeranh> idk sorry
[09:31] <goeranh> wait
[09:31] <Exagone313> with vim I can add spaces, but with tail I cannot
[09:32] <Exagone313> I won't use vim on syslog :)
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> Exagone313: maybe play with xrandr?
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> !xrandr | Exagone313
[09:33] <Exagone313> with xrandr, it says that no screen is available, sometyhing like that
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[09:33] <Exagone313> in ctrl+alt+f7 there is lightdm started
[09:33] <Exagone313> but I can't log in here, and I can't open a terminal
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> Exagone313: not sure exactly , never played with awesome before
[09:34] <goeranh> mouseover: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[09:35] <goeranh> goto standard packages
[09:35] <Exagone313> the screen resolution problem appears also in unity and kde
[09:35] <Exagone313> with an older installation, I had the same problem
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> Exagone313: wich ubuntu base/version are you using exactly?
[09:36] <Exagone313> i try to remove lightdm and install lightdm-gtk-greeter
[09:36] <Exagone313> ubuntu server 14.04.2
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> k
[09:36] <Exagone313> I come back, since it is a dual boot
[09:38] <yabbes> is there a way i can list subfolders with "ls" according to their relative size and make this recursive :) ?
[09:38] <mouseover> goeranh: Sorry, I clicked on "utopic" but I dont see "standard" anywhere?
[09:38] <goeranh> no there is an search panel
[09:39] <mouseover> goeranh: and what search string do I use?
[09:39] <goeranh> preinstalled or something like this
[09:39] <goeranh> try out
[09:40] <basichash> how can i put a .iso onto a usb?
[09:40] <basichash> always forget the command
[09:40] <lotuspsychje> basichash: an iso with what on it?
[09:41] <goeranh> usb installer
[09:41] <basichash> ubuntu-based distro
[09:41] <goeranh> its preinstalled
[09:41] <goeranh> goto dash and enter usb
[09:41] <basichash> h
[09:41] <basichash> ah*
[09:41] <basichash> thanks
[09:41] <goeranh> np
[09:42] <Guest22031> i think you must format you usb device and copy your iso on usb and after reboot on usb device
[09:42] <goeranh> thats automaticaly done
[09:42] <Guest22031> i also think you must have only the iso on your usb
[09:42] <goeranh> nope an iso is an archive and u need an programm to copy/install it
[09:42] <goeranh> nope
[09:43] <gr33n7007h> basichash: dd if=whatever.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=512k # if you wanna know :)
[09:43] <Guest22031> ok sorry
[09:43] <basichash> gr33n7007h: thanks ;)
[09:43] <basichash> is that basically what disk creator does?
[09:44] <goeranh> gr33n7007h, sure u can do it by commandline
[09:44] <goeranh> yes it is
[09:44] <goeranh> but its not graphical
[09:44] <gr33n7007h> goeranh: i'm just a term freak :)
[09:44] <Guest22031> can you tell me how to stabilise my cpu utilisation on my computer
[09:44] <goeranh> ...
[09:44] <basichash> goeranh: i'm more used to cli than GUI
[09:44] <goeranh> xD
[09:44] <Guest22031> ??
[09:44] <Guest22031> please
[09:44] <basichash> hate GUI tbh
[09:45] <goeranh> im new to linux xD
[09:45] <goeranh> i had windows bevore
[09:45] <goeranh> and its so much better
[09:45] <goeranh> and easyer
[09:45] <gunnar> Guest22031: Are you using a mobile cpu?
[09:46] <gunnar> Guest22031: If so apm can help with cpu governors.
[09:47] <basichash> goeranh: depends what you want from your OS
[09:47] <goeranh> should be fast
[09:47] <gunnar> Guest22031: Though you may need to recompile your kernel to implement it.  And it only works for mobile cpu's
[09:48] <mouseover> goeranh: I couldnt find it there, but I did find it here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.10/ubuntu-14.10-desktop-i386.list
[09:48] <mouseover> Just for your future reference
[09:48] <goeranh> ok thanks
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> mouseover: what are you trying to find as package exactly?
[09:48] <goeranh> preinstalled package list
[09:49] <goeranh> u can also download package links (something.deb)
[09:50] <mouseover> lotuspsychje: I want to install my wireless drivers (bcm-kernel-source) from the Ubuntu CD (because I dont have an internet connection).
[09:50] <Guest22031> i use 4 CPUs and i have picks on differents cpu i would like to regularise that
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> mouseover: you can add the cdrom to sources
[09:50] <mouseover> goeranh: I did download the .deb file, but it has a tree of dependencies
[09:50] <goeranh> ohh
[09:51] <Guest22031> i dont now if you can anderstand me??
[09:51] <mouseover> lotuspsychje: Correct, however, I first need to know if the CDROM has the package to begin with... hence I was looking for a list of packages that are included on the CD.
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> mouseover: cant you use an eth0 cable to download wifi drivers?
[09:51] <mouseover> lotuspsychje: Nope :(
[09:51] <Hanumaan_> I have a following configuration in HDD unable to do dual boot Windows and Ubuntu http://paste.ubuntu.com/10807399/
[09:51] <gunnar> Guest22031: Do you mean you have four physical processors or a quad core?
[09:51] <goeranh> mouseover, are u on an laptop?
[09:51] <Guest22031> in  the system monitor i have the frequency curve
[09:52] <goeranh> using laptop edition?
[09:52] <mouseover> lotuspsychje: btw, if I add the CD to sources, do you know how dependencies are handled?
[09:52] <basichash> what do i set the partition type to?
[09:52] <mouseover> goeranh: Yes
[09:52] <Guest22031> yes
[09:52] <goeranh> then it is on ur cd
[09:52] <goeranh> i also use it
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> mouseover: normally when you add the cdrom to sources, you can browse packages with software centre or synaptic
[09:52] <mouseover> goeranh: I actually am using Lubuntu CD, not Ubuntu
[09:53] <goeranh> ok
[09:53] <gunnar> Guest22031: I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're trying to do.
[09:53] <Guest22031> i think i have a quad core
[09:53] <basichash> gr33n7007h: which partition type should i use?
[09:53] <basichash> W95 FAT32?
[09:53] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | Hanumaan_
[09:54] <lotuspsychje> !uefi > Hanumaan_
[09:54] <goeranh> basichash,  use ext2
[09:54] <gr33n7007h> basichash: you don't have to format or anything
[09:55] <Guest22031> i want to have regular curve in system monitor of my cpu
[09:55] <goeranh> or just use re33n7007hs command
[09:55] <basichash> gr33n7007h: just enable the bootable flag?
[09:55] <gr33n7007h> basichash: you don't even have to do that
[09:55] <basichash> oh ok, thanks
[09:56] <gunnar> Guest22031: I'm guessing here that you want to distribute the load on all 4 cores?  If so that is probably not possible 'cause programs are coded to utilize the processors in different ways.
[09:57] <gunnar> Guest22031: Google 'threading'
[09:57] <gr33n7007h> basichash: it basically copies the image byte for byte
[09:57] <goeranh> and when its done its bootable
[09:58] <Guest22031> ok i thind this topic can you explain me want do you think of that ?? http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/cpu-frequtils
[09:58] <gr33n7007h> goeranh: yep
[09:58] <goeranh> i messed around with it at the begin bevore i  chosed ubuntu
[09:59] <goeranh> its the same on other distros
[10:00] <gunnar> Guest22031: It seems that CPU-Frequtils, as powernowd no longer work from Ubuntu 12.04. These utilities are replaced by Jupiter: an energy manager
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> !info indicator-cpufreq | Guest22031
[10:00] <Guest22031> attention i don't use this topic i don't now if it's realy ok
[10:01] <Guest22031> ok thanks i check it
[10:02] <gunnar> Hope it helps.
[10:04] <gunnar> Also this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/455687/how-to-run-cpufreqd-in-ubuntu-14-04
[10:04] <Exagone313> I tried to install lightdm-gtk-greeter, and now it starts on a tty, so I don't what to do
[10:04] <Exagone313> i go to #awesome
[10:05] <Guest22031> thanks i runnig cpu utils i look at the evolution if i see you later i inform you of the evolution
[10:06] <Guest22031> by
[10:14] <asghar__> can i install openstack without maas ?
[10:17] <OerHeks> asghar__, no http://www.ubuntu.com/download/cloud/install-ubuntu-openstack
[10:41] <Hereforcoding> hi...
[10:41] <Hereforcoding> I need help in setting proxy in ubuntu
[10:42] <Hereforcoding> I am not able to run sudo apt-get update and all othere network related in terminal
[10:42] <gunnar> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/
[10:47] <ioria> gparted crashed with external hhd  : dmesg | grep gparted
[10:47] <ioria> [ 1121.558065] gpartedbin[2418]: segfault at 0 ip   (null) sp b0aa6e90 error 4 in gpartedbin[8048000+118000]
[10:50] <gunnar> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/segmentation-fault-on-linux-unix.html
[10:51] <ioria> gunnar: thanx maybe is lett. d) -faulty hardware-  because usually gparted works.
[10:52] <ioria> but the drive seems to works... read and write
[10:52] <ioria> this is worst scenario... because i'm tempted to use it
[10:53] <gunnar> ioria:  Perhaps a tired memmory chip?
[10:54] <ioria> gunnar: right. it'a and old sata drive recuperated  by a hp pavillion laptop
[10:54] <gunnar> ioria: :-)
[10:55] <ioria> gunnar: i was forced to reflow its video card with a thermal pistol
[10:55] <gunnar> ioria: Brave soul
[10:56] <ioria> gunnar: brave and stupid
[10:56] <gunnar> hehehe
[10:56] <gunnar> ioria: breaking stuff is the best way to learn.
[10:57] <ioria> gunnar: yep but i'm 30 years old i should have already learned
[10:57] <Exagone313> Hello, I've a problem with X, the screen is zoomed in. How to zoom out? Thanks for helping
[10:58] <gunnar> ioria: never to late or early to learn.  Embrace your lack of knowledge and keep learning.
[10:58] <ioria> gunnar: i'll  follow your advice. thanx
[10:58] <gunnar> ioria: Your welcome.
[10:59] <Exagone313> I think I need to sue xrandr, but I don't know what command to use
[10:59] <Exagone313> use*
[10:59] <gunnar> hmm somebody pasted a linky on xrandr earlier.. you could google it?
[11:00] <Wug> Exagone313: have you tried `lawyer --court superior --claim [your complaint here] --law [section:subsection]`? :D
[11:00] <gunnar> LOL :D
[11:00] <ioria> Exagone313, never occurred to me: try this - http://askubuntu.com/questions/82398/how-to-zoom-inzoom-out
[11:00] <Exagone313> Wug: command not found (didnt tried)
[11:01] <Exagone313> ioria: I don't use unity, and the problem occurs with any window managher (kde/unity/awesome...)
[11:02] <Exagone313> so it's a x-server problem
[11:03] <gunnar> wow.. I'm still sitting here snickering about Wug's comment... how sad am I?
[11:04] <gartral> so i've been following the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/openvpn.html and they appear to be wrong... it errors out at "./clean-all" instruction saying that I need to set "source vars" even though i have. i'm running 14.04 on my server... help?
[11:04] <Wug> gunnar: in your defense, i am pretty hilarious. :)
[11:04] <gunnar> http://askubuntu.com/questions/379123/can-i-zoom-out-windows-or-scale-the-whole-desktop
[11:05] <gunnar> Wug: Thanks I feel better now. :P
[11:06] <gunnar> Exagone313: That shoukd help you out.
[11:06] <gunnar> should*
[11:07] <ioria> Exagone313,  check your resolution
[11:07] <Exagone313> on, windows, I don't have this problem
[11:07] <Exagone313> -,
[11:08] <gunnar> gartral: I followed the same guide as you to set up my vpn and I've had no problems.. perhaps a typo somewhere?
[11:08] <ioria> Exagone313,  xdpyinfo  | grep dimensions
[11:08] <gartral> gunnar: I'll try again, please stand by
[11:08] <gunnar> sir yes sir
[11:09] <Exagone313> with xrandr, i set 800x600, and it is scaled, but I want to get 1920x1080
[11:10] <Exagone313> ioria: so it replies 800x600
[11:10] <gunnar> Exagone313:  Have you set proper modelines in your xorc conf?
[11:10] <ioria> very good :-P
[11:10] <Exagone313> what is it?
[11:10] <Exagone313> i didn't edited xorg conf
[11:10] <ioria> may we found the problem
[11:11] <gunnar> it's a config file that has to do with telling the xserver what resolution you want to run at.
[11:11] <gartral> gunnar: doesn't look like i typo'd.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/10807887/
[11:11] <Hereforcoding> hi....
[11:12] <gunnar> ohh yeah I remember running into this problem.
[11:12] <samfreenode> I just installed Skype, is it really going to load every single message ever sent before it finalyl runs?
[11:12] <gunnar> You need to su to root
[11:12] <Exagone313> but if I set my resolution like I want with xrandr, it is zoomed in
[11:12] <gartral> gunnar: oh...
[11:12] <gunnar> and the source it, since the source command isn't by default in your path
[11:12] <gartral> gunnar: how do i do that?
[11:12] <gunnar> just type su
[11:13] <gunnar> and the passwors
[11:13] <gartral> gunnar: i did
[11:13] <gunnar> and then do the source command again.
[11:13] <gartral> so continue from here?
[11:13] <samfreenode> Why is Skype loading every single message I've ever sent on the network, and it won't become responsive?
[11:13] <miceiken> can I have cp output some kind of information about progress?
[11:13] <gunnar> Stand by gartral
[11:16] <gunnar> gartral: So yeah like I said earlier, after you su to root in the /etc/openvpn/easy-rsa/ run as root, not sudo source vars, log back out to your regular user and sudo ./clean-all ./build-ca
[11:16] <gunnar> that worked for me
[11:17] <gartral> gunnar: ok, now i'm running into the issue of cp: cannot stat ‘dh2048.pem’: No such file or directory
[11:18] <gunnar> you need to change the name of the dh2048 file.
[11:18] <gunnar> ./build-dh
[11:18] <gartral> gunnar: to and from? I can't exactly correctly follow the documentation when said documentation is inheirently broken
[11:19] <gunnar> gartral: I know it's a bit tricky.. you need to read it all ahead of time.. kinda :P
[11:20] <gartral> gunnar: OK, got that bit
[11:20] <gunnar> gartral:  By that I mean, don't type in the commands one by one, but read the paragraph above each one before you try them.
[11:21] <gartral> gunnar: I got this far.. cd /etc/openvpn/easy-rsa/
[11:21] <gartral> source vars
[11:21] <gartral> ./build-key client1
[11:21] <gunnar> this particular section of the server guide is a bit chaotic.
[11:21] <gartral> soory! didn't mean to multi-post!
[11:22] <gunnar> OK so a this point you can either physicly copy the certs on a usb stick to the target client...
[11:22] <gunnar> or use something like scp or sftp.
[11:23] <gunnar> it wont let you copy the files via an unencrypted method.
[11:23] <gartral> gunnar: can't physically do it.. so I'll do it remote
[11:23] <gunnar> then scp or sftpis your saving grace
[11:24] <gartral> gunnar: again, it won't run the commands
[11:25] <Kaby> guys i have installed skype but it disappear from the menu and i can't open new skype it says you are already signed in another place any help (ubuntu 14.10)
[11:25] <gartral> gunnar: nvm, i typoed that one
[11:25] <gunnar> gartral:  Cool
[11:26] <nszceta> how does 3.4.0-0ubuntu2 differ from python 3.4.3 (ubuntu 14.04 LTS)
[11:26] <gunnar> gartral: Also before you copy the files over, if I was you, I'd chown the certs to the user on the client machine.
[11:27] <gartral> gunnar: ok, easy enough
[11:28] <gartral> gunnar: i need the *.key, yes?
[11:28] <miceiken> can I have 'cp' output some kind of information about progress?
[11:29] <gartral> obviously, i'm replacing the name of the key with a "*"
[11:29] <gunnar> gartral:  Yeah, copy the client1.crt and the client1.key to the client machine, you don't need the both mind you but just to be safe I copy them both.
[11:30] <gartral> gunnar: ok, i understand
[11:30] <gunnar> miceiken:  -vv?
[11:33] <gartral> gunnar: problem, I can't access the directory with the keys
[11:33] <gunnar> gartral: do it as root
[11:33] <Hackwar1> hi folks, I got a little issue with a filesystem. e2fsck says, that the filesystem size is X blocks, while the physical drive size is Y blocks, where Y<X. How can I fix this apprently faulty superblock/partition?
[11:33] <gartral> gunnar: I can't ssh in as root, root isn't set up
[11:34] <dkdlsd9> hi, I receive 'drive not ready' at boot but if I press M for manual and type mount -a everything is mounted as specified in the fstab. Any ideas what can I do?
[11:34] <goeranh> use midnight commander ore something like this
[11:34] <goeranh> sudo mc
[11:34] <gartral> brb
[11:35] <gunnar> gartral: dang.. chmod the keys directory 777 and change it back to 600 after you're done copy-ing the keys?
[11:35] <skulltip> would it be better to install the 32-bit OS on a laptop with 3072Mb, or 64-bit  in terms of (school) productivity and memory usage?  libreoffice, email, firefox/chrome, etc..
[11:35] <skulltip> 3074 or whatever.. basically 4G
[11:35] <goeranh> 64
[11:36] <gartral> growl...
[11:36] <skulltip> ty goeranh
[11:36] <goeranh> if u have an 64 bit cpu
[11:37] <skulltip> ok, it's an older toshiba but will check
[11:39] <nicholas> exit
[11:40] <gartral> gunnar: it won't let me copy the .key! it keeps saying permission denied!
[11:41] <gunnar> gartral: then recursivly chmod 777 the keys directory, and back to 600.
[11:41] <gartral> gunnar: I forgot about that! ty
[11:42] <gunnar> gartral: no worries :)
[11:42] <gartral> should I grab ca.crt?
[11:42] <gartral> gunnar: ^^^
[11:42] <gunnar> gartral: no need.
[11:42] <dreamon> having a issue with suspend to ram. sometimes it works fine, sometimes not. sometimes theres no more gui after it wakes up. STRG+ALT+F1 works. but the gui is dark. I hear normal sound from sky. so I know it still runs.
[11:43] <gunnar> gartral: once you connect to the vpn from the client machine it'll just ask you to verify the servers cert.
[11:43] <dreamon> need some idea how to fix it.
[11:43] <gartral> gunnar: what in the client config is broken?
[11:44] <gunnar> gartral: hmm don't know,  my client is using windows and openvpn.  It was a pain in the *** to configure.
[11:44] <gartral> gunnar: ok, well I'll try to figure it out as I go, but "EWWWW Windows!" lol
[11:44] <MonkeyDust> dreamon  i guess it's to do with your swap space, the size of it
[11:45] <ioria> dreamon ya me too... i moved a file and install xscreensaver... give a sec to remember the filename
[11:45] <gunnar> gartral: Hehehe it's my main box, used for gaming.  No real choice :P
[11:45] <gartral> gunnar: I game on Ubuntu. Any games that on't run I have no need to play
[11:45] <gartral> !:P
[11:46] <gartral> don't*
[11:46] <gunnar> gartral: pfft puritan! :D
[11:46] <goeranh> gantral: thats right if i wanna wait until windows has booted...
[11:46] <gartral> gunnar: to be fair, out of 200+ games, i've ran into 17 that won't play at all
[11:48] <ioria> dreamon do you have a /usr/share/app-install/desktop/light-locker-settings:light-locker-settings.desktop ?
[11:48] <dreamon> MonkeyDust, ioria only changes I found is that every time I boot, it makes a new fsck ..
[11:48] <gunnar> gartral: yeah.. I've just had my set up on that box for so long and everything works the way I want to to and I don't want to mess with it.  I've been fantasizing about dual booting linux on that box though.  I already have a few linux vm's running on that box.
[11:49] <dreamon> ioria, Is it a file or a entry in dconf?
[11:49] <gartral> gunnar: haaah.. you want to see what my server is running?
[11:49] <ioria> dreamon it's not a regular file ... wait a  sec
[11:50] <gartral> nvm, the info page is broken.... damn you apache!
[11:51] <gunnar> gartral: sure
[11:51] <gunnar> gartral: muhahaha
[11:52] <dreamon> ioria, yes I have this file, too
[11:52] <ioria> dreamon well ... you have to use terminal... cd in /usr/share/app-install/desktop and ls -l light-locker-settings:light-locker-settings.desktop
[11:52] <gartral> gunnar: I need to fix my files
[11:53] <gartral> i can't even think of the name... the files that allow access
[11:53] <gartral> htaccess! that's it
[11:53] <ioria> dreamon   you can try to move or rename (command line) and install   xscreensaver . I solved in this way
[11:54] <Thenewone> Hi any one good at scripting
[11:54] <ioria> dreamon   then reboot or logout
[11:55] <Thenewone> how can switch a line in file to comment ?
[11:55] <dreamon> ioria, Ok -> sudo mv light-locker-settings:light-locker-settings.desktop light-locker-settings:light-locker-settings_.desktop -> Now rebooting
[11:55] <MonkeyDust> Thenewone  by adding a # in front
[11:56] <ioria> dreamon   yep
[11:56] <Thenewone> yep but from script
[11:56] <Thenewone> i dont want add that by gedit
[11:56] <Thenewone> just script who do the work for me
[11:56] <MonkeyDust> Thenewone  bash script?
[11:57] <Thenewone> yep
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> Thenewone  better ask in #bash
[11:57] <ioria> Thenewone, look sed command
[11:57] <Thenewone> thanks
[11:58] <rexuss> Hi.. I just renamed my volume group and logical volume. Does this mean I also need to manually edit the fstab as well?
[12:00] <smallmouse> can anyone assist with a really slow wireless card on a desktop machine.
[12:00] <lotuspsychje> smallmouse: wifi chipset please?
[12:00] <smallmouse> I have increased the power but the wireless speed is very very slow, it is not the router
[12:00] <ktanner> are there any hotkeys to get to recovery mode on 14.10 32bit? no grub menu is showing on my laptop
[12:00] <lotuspsychje> ktanner: hold shift at boot to enter grub
[12:00] <SaltlakeCity1622> does anyone know how to get the expose feature back in modified versions of ubuntu, where it has been removed? you know the feature where you can spread all open windows apart to see everything that you have open?
[12:00] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | ktanner
[12:01] <benjhocking> @smallmouse what chipset are you using
[12:01] <benjhocking> e.g. what motherboard
[12:01] <Thenewone> ioria, thanks man
[12:01] <ioria> Thenewone, np
[12:01] <ktanner> thanks lotuspsychje it worked
[12:01] <benjhocking> ^^ like
[12:01] <lotuspsychje> SaltlakeCity1622: i think some features of unity moved to unity-plugins-extras or something
[12:02] <lotuspsychje> !yay | ktanner
[12:02] <SaltlakeCity1622> I'll have a look, where would I find that?
[12:02] <lotuspsychje> !find unity-plugin
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> holdon
[12:03] <jackintosh>  SaltlakeCity1622 you mean compiz?
[12:04] <gartral> gunnar: i'm confused by this phrasing.. "And you have to at least specify the OpenVPN server name or address. Make sure the keyword client is in the config. That's what enables client mode.
[12:04] <smallmouse> benjhocking: how do i get the chipset
[12:05] <smallmouse> lotuspsychje: how do i get the chip set thanks
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> smallmouse: sudo lshw -C network
[12:05] <gunnar> gartral:  Yeah it's the first line in the openvpn server config.  You need to tell the client to oppeate in client mode, by default it's set to server.
[12:06] <smallmouse> lotuspsychje: reateckPCI extpress Qualcomm Atheros
[12:06] <lotuspsychje> !atheros | smallmouse
[12:06] <dreamon> ioria, Im testing.
[12:06] <gunnar> gartral: so depending on what config you chose, make sure the first line read 'client' on the client. :P
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> !info compiz-plugins-extra | SaltlakeCity1622 try this mate
[12:07] <sudomarize> what is the standard location for installing software?
[12:07] <gartral> gunnar: in /etc/openvpn/client.conf?
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> SaltlakeCity1622: i used this to get wobbly windows back once, maybe your effect is also in there
[12:08] <gunnar> gartral: I'd also edit the server config to tell the server to force the clients to use the vpn server as their internet connection.  Can't remember where in the config it's situated exactly.
[12:08] <sudomarize> e.g. if i have tar, where is the generally accepted location to put it
[12:08] <nszceta> Q: what is the best way to host my own packages I built?
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> nszceta: for what purpose?
[12:09] <gartral> gunnar: there's no server.conf
[12:09] <nszceta> lotuspsychje ec2 server infrastructure
[12:09] <nszceta> I have my own programs I packaged with fpm
[12:09] <nszceta> for RHEL I use createrepo
[12:09] <gunnar> gartral:  Yes.  on the client, you don't need to worry about that since there is no server.conf there.
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> nszceta: for backup, or repo hosting?
[12:09] <SeaDonky> programs i have installed has gone to /etc
[12:10] <nszceta> lotuspsychje only for my custom packages. thanks
[12:10] <gartral> gunnar: so just edit client.conf?
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> nszceta: you can backup your favorite packages with aptoncd perhaps?
[12:10] <gunnar> gartral: At least skim over it and check to see if there are any obvious errors.
[12:10] <gartral> gunnar: ok
[12:10] <welintonfer> Hello
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> nszceta: hosting, is really the users choice right
[12:11] <nszceta> ????
[12:11] <nszceta> I am going to host my own packages on my own private network for my other nodes to install
[12:11] <nszceta> this is for purely internal use
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> nszceta: so you want a personal repo?
[12:12] <nszceta> correct sir
[12:12] <gunnar> gartral:  Just make sure the first line says 'client' and that the correct ip address for the server is set along witht the port number.
[12:12] <nszceta> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Personal
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> !repo | nszceta
[12:12] <gartral> gunnar: that worries me, the entry remote my-server-1 1194
[12:12] <nszceta> is this up-to-date with the latest best practices?
[12:12] <gunnar> gartral: hmm give me moment, I'm gonna check my own client config.
[12:13] <lotuspsychje> nszceta: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys might know the newest tricks in the house :p
[12:14] <gartral> gunnar: I might have to consult the dd-wrt crew for a bit...
[12:14] <gunnar> gartral: Just comment that line out, don't delete it (just for future reference) and manually type in the ipaddress of the server and the port number.
[12:15] <gartral> gunnar: what port, that's the bit that worries me
[12:15] <gunnar> gartral: Ok keep me posted, not going anywhere soon.
[12:15] <dreamon> ioria, till now it works .. :) going on testing
[12:16] <ioria> dreamon, ok
[12:16] <ioria> dreamon, check your ram and swap --- free and free -m
[12:18] <sudomarize> exit
[12:18] <sudomarize> exit
[12:18] <gunnar> gartral: http://www.speedguide.net/port.php?port=1194 Just if it eases your worries.
[12:21] <gartral> gunnar: i don't understand?
[12:22] <gunnar> gartral: me neither?  What is it that worries you with regards to the port?
[12:23] <gartral> gunnar: i don't think said port is open
[12:25] <dreamon> ioria, it works.. really cool. can you please tell me what I ve done?
[12:25] <gunnar> gartral: ahh ok.. what's your setup like?
[12:26] <ioria> dreamon, well in one word is a 'bug'
[12:26] <ioria> dreamon, wait..
[12:26] <dreamon> ioria, what kind of apps is there?
[12:27] <ioria> dreamon, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/1303736
[12:28] <gartral>  gunnar at the server end it's a dd-wrt router with a server hardwired in
[12:28] <gunnar> gartral: All you have to do is forward the port to your vpn server from your router, and on the server iself via iptables you'll need to allow external connection on either UDP og TCP port 1194.
[12:29] <gartral> gunnar: i know, issue is is i have no outside access from said router
[12:30] <gunnar> gartral: Wow... this is getting a bit beyond my skill set.  If I can help you at all though, feel free to ask.
[12:31] <dreamon> ioria, Its possible I installed xfce4.. think after that the issue began.
[12:31] <gartral> gunnar: again, at this point, i need to ask the dd-wrt folks, waiting on an answer
[12:32] <ioria> dreamon, it  not depends only on xfce4 i think depends on security
[12:32] <adelpozoman> does this work?
[12:32] <gunnar> gartral: Ok
[12:32] <adelpozoman> how to change nick?
[12:38] <ioria> ho no, my dear, i cannot eat haggis for breakfast
[12:41] <dreamon> ioria, Thanks a thousend times. I was so short before to install from scratch.
[12:42] <ioria> dreamon, np
[12:43] <gartral> gunnar: the dd-wrt team is really "helpful" >.<
[12:43] <vincenzo> ciao
[12:44] <vincenzo> hi guys
[12:44] <gartral> hi
[12:47] <Nokaji> how can I over-ride the settings for icon-FONT in file manager, it does not respond to tweaking or even a re-set and is 6px approx
[12:48] <gunnar> gartral: :)
[12:49] <MichaelHabib> Hi
[12:49] <MichaelHabib> I have DNS (Webmin + Bind) question. I managed to create a home Apache + DNS server. If I add Master Zone records I can access these domains from my PC but I cant set the root directories for these domains, not even with virtual hosts.
[12:50] <gunnar> gartral:  Have you read this? http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/OpenVPN
[12:50] <ioria> Nokaji, have you seen this http://askubuntu.com/questions/19770/how-do-i-change-fonts-and-adjust-their-size
[12:50] <nszceta> what does this mean
[12:50] <nszceta> Packages in archive but missing from override file:
[12:50] <gartral> gunnar: not feasable, router won't load the bigger firmware
[12:51] <nszceta> got that during "dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip -9c > Packages.gz"
[12:51] <dreamon> since I did → sudo touch /forcefsck  → reboot system make everytime a filecheck of both HDDs. whats the reason?
[12:51] <Nokaji> ioria: Yes thanks. It does not respond to unity-tweak-tool/ reset or other input methods
[12:52] <Nokaji> used to ut not any more since a forced reboot
[12:52] <Nokaji> most other fonts i can tweak
[12:52] <gunnar> gartral: But do these instructions still not apply?  You know since you're still using dd-wrt albeit a different version.  Just brainstorming here.
[12:53] <gartral> gunnar: no, since I can't at the moment access the NAT page of my router
[12:54] <ioria> Nokaji, what kind of fonts ?
[12:55] <Nokaji> in file manager - nautilus? is it called .. the files/folders/directories
[12:55] <gunnar> gartral: Is it because you don't have root access to the nat or is it because you're not sure how to access/configure it in general?
[12:56] <gartral> gunnar: neither, it's because the routers conf page is no longer accessable
[12:56] <Nokaji> neglgible differnece even if I scale the fonts or change screen resolution, but then again 6px +50% is still tiny
[12:56] <gunnar> gartral: ok
[12:57] <ioria> Nokaji, try in cli   http://askubuntu.com/questions/454279/change-default-system-font-using-terminal-only-in-14-04
[12:58] <Nokaji> I did try that before thanks, there is some comment that the file manager fonts can't be set and that there is a request for inclussion going back years
[12:58] <Nokaji> I need to find a line of code somewhere i think, a config file
[12:59] <ndhlp> hi. I need some help. I'm scared. Maybe parania but I have reasons to this. I need to update ubuntu trusty (14.04). But everytime its fails due some security check. Whether its a Hsh Sum Mismatch suddely the ubuntu master GPG keys become invalid, differing from the server keys.
[12:59] <Nokaji> I'kk try it again to see what settings it says in case one is 6px but i did try before
[13:00] <ndhlp> How do I update (and install new software) assuring the security? My first problem is  'W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG <very long key not found in any keyserver> Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>`
[13:02] <Nokaji> 18,16,18,14
[13:02] <gunnar> gartral:  I've been reading up on your problem on the dd-wrt forums.  How are you connected to the router? and are you sure you are using the correct Ip addresses? Are you sure you are on the same subnet and so on?
[13:03] <MichaelHabib> hi again, on my NSD server, creating a Master Zone gets picked up (can be accssed from pc) but creating a matching Virtual Host has no effect on the domain RootDir (or other options) .. any tips or ideas to where I can start looking for the problem ?
[13:03] <MichaelHabib> my DNS **
[13:04] <gartral> gunnar: I have a static IP, so I have a hostname, and I'm trying over an open admin port
[13:05] <nszceta> how can I provision an existing minimal ec2 instance with ansible 1.9
[13:06] <Nokaji> some drop-down file menus are tiny also
[13:09] <gunnar> gartral:  Are you sure the router is properly configured to forward the remote traffic to the internal os? and not to it's local network?
[13:09] <Nokaji> is there some sort of 'file integrity check' with ubuntu, like windows SFC ?
[13:09] <Kaby> i wonder why on windows my download speed is 20/30 kb and on ubuntu minimum starts at 60 kb to 160 kb lol
[13:09] <gartral> gunnar: very, it was working for 3 years
[13:11] <MichaelHabib> gunnar: hi & sorry to bother you again. You seem to know quit a bit about DNS and I can really use a coach to help me out for a bit
[13:11] <gunnar> gartral:  Ok, I'm just seeing a lot of posts about people loosing connectivity due to improper ip address settings.
[13:11] <bboyacid> slt
[13:11] <gartral> gunnar: def. not the case, I have people gaming on my server 24/7
[13:12] <gunnar> MichaelHabib:  on which time zone are you, I'm going out for a bit.  I'll be happy to help you later today?
[13:12] <bboyacid> je veu windows sur linux comment faire stp
[13:12] <MichaelHabib> gunnar: Australian time , but I can be online when ever you are, I sleep when the Internet does ;)
[13:12] <cfhowlett> !fr | bboyacid
[13:13] <exoudus> What’s  up with all the ping timeouts??
[13:13] <MichaelHabib> gunnar: if you tell me how many hours from now and I will make sure to be online :)
[13:14] <Exagone313> hello, i've a problem on kde, i've 2 hours more than my time zone. When I edit hour, I have this error: Unable to authenticate/execute the action: 4,
[13:14] <Exagone313> what can I do?
[13:14] <gunnar> MichaelHabib:  3 hours, and I'll be online.  Check back with me then :)
[13:14] <Exagone313> also, otehr problem, update-grub does not detect windows, same after mounting windows partitions and doing os-prober as described on tutorials
[13:14] <MichaelHabib> gunnar: sure thing .. thanks so much for the help
[13:14] <gunnar> gartral: well **** ... I hope you can figure this out.
[13:15] <exoudus> are you root Exagone313??
[13:15] <Exagone313> yes
[13:15] <Exagone313> no
[13:15] <exoudus> hmm
[13:15] <Exagone313> kde does not start as root
[13:15] <exoudus> Do you login as root thou
[13:15] <Exagone313> oh I think I know, kdesu or kdesudo is not installed
[13:15] <exoudus> that might help
[13:16] <Exagone313> same
[13:16] <Exagone313> it does not work
[13:16] <exoudus> allso logon as root then do it
[13:16] <MichaelHabib> Exagone313: check the KDE wallet thing, i had few problems when it failed to connect / login correctly.
[13:16] <Exagone313> or, how to user mtp in command line
[13:16] <Exagone313> ntp*
[13:16] <MichaelHabib> Exagone313: find the KDE wallet manager and login, may fix your problem
[13:17] <Exagone313> MichaelHabib: what is it?
[13:17] <rbajwa> i have a problem in ubuntu again login scren occur after login?
[13:17] <Rory> Exagone313: It's a program to manage stored credentials, but that's not important right now
[13:17] <Exagone313> I think it is not installed
[13:17] <Exagone313> I installed plasma-desktop
[13:18] <Exagone313> not kubuntu-desktop
[13:18] <rbajwa> it is installed i use 12.04 from 2 years
[13:18] <Rory> Exagone313: you probably want kubuntu-desktop to pull in all the extras
[13:18] <exoudus> it should be install by defalt
[13:18] <Exagone313> i don't
[13:18] <rbajwa> but recently i faced that prob
[13:18] <MichaelHabib> Exagone313: Rory ... ignore my messages, I may have missread the original question..
[13:18] <gartral> !eol | rbajwa
[13:19] <gartral> rbajwa: 12.04 is EOLed
[13:19] <rbajwa> but in console it working well
[13:19] <dienes> hi
[13:19] <rbajwa> :(
[13:19] <cfhowlett> 12.04 is NOT eol!
[13:19] <rbajwa> yeh not eol
[13:19] <gartral> cfhowlett: i thought it was
[13:19] <rbajwa> nops
[13:19] <cfhowlett> !12.04
[13:19] <gartral> oh, ignore me then >.>
[13:20] <gartral> SORRY!
[13:20] <OerHeks> 10.04 desktop is, gartral , and 10.04 server is still supporten ;-0
[13:20] <rbajwa> OK
[13:20] <cfhowlett> 10.04 server support ends ... this month!
[13:21] <OerHeks> yay
[13:21] <Exagone313> i did "sudo ntpdate -s 2.fr.pool.ntp.org" and I have the correct time
[13:21] <Exagone313> then, for my grub problem, any clue?
[13:22] <dienes> i have a proble. anyone can help me? the problem java in browsers (security alert, not loading, etc)
[13:22] <Exagone313> dienes: can you more describe your problem about java?
[13:23] <Rory> !java | dienes have you read the official docs on Java?
[13:23] <dienes> so, look at this page: http://sakk-online.hu/chessclient/applet.php
[13:23] <Rory> dienes: you should install the package icedtea-7-plugin
[13:24] <dienes> plugin installed.. and i looked win/linux ff/iron/chrome
[13:25] <dienes> i think this application is very old
[13:41] <vincenzo> ciao
[13:41] <vincenzo> ciao
[13:42] <vincenzo> hi guyas
[13:46] <nszceta> hi
[13:47] <Guest12129> hi
[13:56] <Guest12129> hi
[13:58] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[14:00] <donniezazen> What is the difference between xf86-video-intel and xserver-xorg-video-intel?
[14:01] <Guest12129> xorg is open source video driver i belive
[14:01] <Guest12129> dont qoute me
[14:04] <donniezazen> Guest12129: I am thinking about setting up external monitor using this article http://www.unixreich.com/blog/2013/linux-nvidia-optimus-on-thinkpad-w520w530-with-external-monitor-finally-solved/
[14:05] <donniezazen> It is kind of old and I am too scared of messing up with graphic drivers because that would mean I will probably have to reinstall.
[14:05] <Guest12129> i have a cheap intel video in my netbook
[14:05] <donniezazen> Guest12129: btw I have seen other distro like Arch and Fedora ship xf86-video-intel by default. I think intel open source their drivers.
[14:06] <pixierail>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER pixierail qabgcsdeeeqa
[14:06] <SchrodingersScat> time to pick a new one
[14:06] <pixierail> woops =)
[14:06] <BluesKaj> intel graphics are usually quite good for a an onboard chip
[14:06] <SchrodingersScat> pixierail: also, if you /query nickserv , less chance of that
[14:07] <smallmouse> Hi i would like to switch off usb data transfer to lock down a user, does anyone have an idea on how to do this.  This should be effected at start up.
[14:07] <mintyfresh> im not ubuntu so i cant help
[14:10] <[RO]Daniel>  hi all, can anyone recommend me an app that is able to normalize flac files without loose the artwork and tag from files?
[14:11] <cfhowlett> [RO]Daniel, audacity
[14:11] <[RO]Daniel> cfhowlett,  thanks but that has only peak normalize, i would like something that normalizes based on RMS or loudness whatever
[14:12] <[RO]Daniel> i like verry much what job does normalize-audio (command line only) but with that i loose the tag and artwork
[14:12] <smallmouse> Hi i would like to switch off usb data transfer to lock down a user, does anyone have an idea on how to do this.  This should be effected at start up. thank you
[14:12] <cfhowlett> [RO]Daniel, ask #opensourcemusicians      they would know
[14:12] <[RO]Daniel> ok thanks cfhowlett  :)
[14:29] <smallmouse> Hi i would like to switch off usb data transfer to lock down a user, does anyone have an idea on how to do this.  This should be effected at start up.
[14:30] <goeranh> hello, does anybody know an good video editing software?
[14:30] <cfhowlett> smallmouse, a single user lockdown??
[14:30] <cfhowlett> !openshot | goeranh,
[14:30] <lotuspsychje> smallmouse: you could try kiosk software
[14:30] <goeranh> thank you
[14:30] <smallmouse> cfhowlett: yes thanks just single user
[14:30] <cfhowlett> !info openshot
[14:31] <cfhowlett> smallmouse, yep, kiosk mode
[14:31] <goeranh> z
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> smallmouse: you could also setup chmod strongly for a single user, and whatever he does with usb will not have effect on other folders
[14:36] <jl> So I recently installed Ubuntu on my 2nd HD of my PC and I have two issues, only one of which needs to actually be solved.
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> jl: ask your issue mate
[14:36] <jl> My main issue is that sometimes ubuntu will crash and I will see a screen that looks like this http://imgur.com/a/nlp3p
[14:36] <jl> But screenshots are also normal, nothing similar happens in windows ever
[14:37] <I> ...
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> jl: grafix chipset and ubuntu version please?
[14:37] <yuriy> Hi) could somebody help with x.org driver. I have hp laptop with Intel/AMD Radeon graphic and use x.org driver. Almost everything is ok, but when I close a lid or suspend laptop then after I cannot use laptop because of black screen. any ideas?
[14:37] <jl> Ubuntu 14.04, ATI HD 6870
[14:38] <lotuspsychje> jl: this reminds me of an ati xorg-video bug on my ati X800
[14:39] <jl> lotuspsychje, How were you able to fix it?
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> jl: i think kernel update fixxed that
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> jl: did you try additional drivers section, to see other drivers?
[14:41] <jl> All I did so far to try to fix it so far was installing all updates to software I already have, I thought about the non-free drivers but I wasnt sure it was a driver thing
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> jl: you could surely test other drivers to check
[14:42] <jl> lotuspsychje, Should I install them before I know if it still crashes without switching? I guess it probably doesnt hurt but I tend to avoid changing too many things If I dont have to, i think it makes narrowing down where I messed something up difficult.
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> jl: i would try a driver switch first + reboot to make sure its not a driver issue
[14:45] <jl> lotuspsychje, Sure, I will intall the other driver, and hopefully it stops freezing up or just spazzing. Thanks!
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> jl: you can always enter grub recoverymode if you get into troubles
[14:46] <jl> Cool, should I use fglrx or fglrx-updates?
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> jl: test out what works best for your card
[14:47] <topdownjimmy> I have a VPN running on my server; if I want to connect to that machine from outside of the local network, how can I do that?
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> topdownjimmy: sounds like a question for the ##networking guys mate
[14:48] <topdownjimmy> Thanks lotuspsychje
[14:48] <hereforcoding> hi..
[14:48] <hereforcoding> need help for setting proxy for terminal
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> !proxy | hereforcoding
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> !squid
[14:49] <hereforcoding> Actually sodo apt-get update is not working
[14:49] <jl> lotuspsychje, Thanks lotus.
[14:49] <hereforcoding> curl is not working
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> jl: np, hope it works
[14:51] <ioria> hereforcoding, exact error ?
[14:51] <hereforcoding> git clone https://openhatch.org/git-mission-data/git/Hereforcoding git_missions Cloning into 'git_missions'... error: Failed connect to openhatch.org:3128; No route to host while accessing https://openhatch.org/git-mission-data/git/Hereforcoding/info/refs fatal: HTTP request failed
[14:53] <ioria> there is a relation between apt-get update curl and git ?
[14:53] <Seveas> ioria: with apt-get update you can update git and curl :)
[14:53] <Seveas> and git uses libcurl for http and imap connectivity.
[14:53] <hereforcoding> Actually everything is connecting to network
[14:53] <ioria> Seveas, sure... but ?
[14:54] <hereforcoding> I think thats the problem
[14:54] <Seveas> ioria: but nothing. I just arrived and have no context to the question :)
[14:54] <hereforcoding> not sure about it
[14:54] <ioria> Seveas, kiddin eh... :-P
[14:55] <hereforcoding> I seen this http://kaamka.blogspot.in/2009/06/httpproxy-environment-variable.html
[14:55] <Seveas> hereforcoding: what's tour proxy hostname and port?
[14:55] <Seveas> usually you set it like this:
[14:55] <hereforcoding> Seveas how to know that
[14:56] <Seveas> export http_proxy=http://webproxy.mycompany.com:3128
[14:56] <Seveas> git clone http://....
[14:56] <Seveas> hereforcoding: well, you want to use a proxy. Kinda hard to do if you don't know the proxy :)
[14:56] <hereforcoding> Actually I am using wifi
[14:57] <hereforcoding> It working without proxy in firefox
[14:57] <ioria> hereforcoding, don't mix the cards
[14:57] <Seveas> so why are you trying to set a proxy?
[14:57] <liren> quit
[14:57] <mjuszczak> There's a workaround to a bug that says "kill aptd and install packagekit". What exactly does that do/
[14:58] <Seveas> mjuszczak: it'll break your system :)
[14:58] <mjuszczak> ok
[14:58] <hereforcoding> I thought that was the only problem the unix command is not working
[14:58] <mjuszczak> Seveas: really? OK. It's the recommended workaround for: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/realmd/+bug/1333694
[14:58] <Seveas> hereforcoding: so let's back up a step or 20. What are you actually trying to do?
[14:58] <hereforcoding> what may be the other reason
[15:00] <hereforcoding> I am simply trying to run the common git clone https://openhatch.org/git-mission-data/git/Hereforcoding git_missions or curl or sudo get-update
[15:00] <hereforcoding> none of this not working
[15:00] <hereforcoding> Seveas
[15:00] <Seveas> hereforcoding: ok, what's the output of the git clone command?
[15:00] <ioria> hereforcoding, can  you ping 8.8.8.8 and www.google.com ?
[15:00] <Seveas> ioria: no rushing ahead :)
[15:01] <ioria> go on ...
[15:01] <hereforcoding> I am new to unix could tell how to ping 8.8.8.8
[15:01] <ioria> fume
[15:01] <Seveas> hereforcoding: we can do that later. First I want to see the output of the git clone
[15:02] <hereforcoding> You can clone the repository by running: git clone https://openhatch.org/git-mission-data/git/Hereforcod
[15:02] <hereforcoding> https://openhatch.org/missions/git/checkout
[15:02] <Seveas> hereforcoding: yes, and I want *you* to try that and tell me what the output is you get, to diagnose your connectivity issues.
[15:02] <mjuszczak> Is it still okay to use adcli with all of the package bugs in realm join?
[15:02] <hereforcoding> @ubuntu:~$ git clone https://openhatch.org/git-mission-data/git/Hereforcoding git_missions Cloning into 'git_missions'... error: Failed connect to openhatch.org:3128; No route to host while accessing https://openhatch.org/git-mission-data/git/Hereforcoding/info/refs fatal: HTTP request failed
[15:03] <hereforcoding> Seveas
[15:03] <Seveas> hereforcoding: ok, that openhatch.org:3128 in there makes me thing you've already set a broken http_proxy variable
[15:03] <Seveas> try this command and show the output: env | grep -i proxy
[15:04] <hereforcoding> I have tried that
[15:04] <Seveas> ...and show the output
[15:04] <hereforcoding> @ubuntu:~$ env | grep -i proxy NO_PROXY=localhost,127.0.0.0/8 http_proxy=http://webproxy.mycompany.com:3128 ALL_PROXY=socks://192.168.1.103:3128/ all_proxy=socks://192.168.1.103:3128/ socks_proxy=socks://192.168.1.103:3128/ UBUNTU_MENUPROXY=libappmenu.so no_proxy=localhost,127.0.0.0/8
[15:05] <Seveas> is that the literal output, or did you redact it?
[15:05] <tiyteeze> hey
[15:05] <tiyteeze> need help
[15:05] <hereforcoding> I just copy paste Seveas
[15:06] <MichaelHabib> gunnar: Hi, are you back ?
[15:07] <Seveas> hereforcoding: ok, let's unset all those except the menu proxy: unset NO_PROXY; unset http_proxy; unset ALL_PROXY; unset all_proxy; unset socks_proxy; unset no_proxy
[15:07] <Seveas> hereforcoding: and then try the clone again. The output should be different this time.
[15:07] <hereforcoding> K Sevas let me try
[15:07] <Seveas> tiyteeze: it's kinda hard to help if you don't tell us what's wrong :)
[15:14] <hereforcoding> Seveas thank you very much :)
[15:14] <RRliko> hi there
[15:14] <dong_> fgdf
[15:14] <dinet> good afternoon
[15:14] <RRliko> Got a question - what's the software of choice to sandbox firefox in ubuntu?
[15:15] <bekks> RRliko: Sandboxing in which manner?
[15:15] <dinet> is it possible to change from -server to -desktop without reinstalling the entire system?
[15:15] <Seveas> hereforcoding: it's working? :)
[15:15] <bekks> dinet: Sure. Just use the desktop packages you want.
[15:15] <hereforcoding> yes :)
[15:15] <RRliko> bekks: sandboxing from system and home files
[15:15] <Seveas> hereforcoding: excellent!
[15:15] <bekks> RRliko: Install a virtual machine.
[15:15] <Seveas> RRliko: run it in a vm
[15:15] <RRliko> bekks: too hungry on resources
[15:15] <hereforcoding> Seveas thanks a lot :)
[15:15] <dinet> bekks: I have done that. feels like alot of things are missing.
[15:15] <bekks> RRliko: Its the only way.
[15:16] <RRliko> Seveas: bekks I'd like to use sandboxed firefox as main browser
[15:16] <bekks> dinet: Then you did not install everything :) Which desktop environment do you want?
[15:16] <Seveas> RRliko: firefox is hungrier than the vm if you make it a lean one
[15:16] <bekks> RRliko: Then install it in a virtual machine.
[15:16] <dinet> bekks: I have gnome installed
[15:16] <bekks> dinet: Which Ubuntu are you on?
[15:16] <dinet> bekks: latest
[15:16] <bekks> dinet: NAme the version please.
[15:17] <RRliko> Anyone else has got experience with sandboxing firefox?
[15:17] <dinet> bekks: the latest that is not LTS.. iirc .10
[15:17] <bekks> dinet: Whats the output of "lsb-release -sd"?
[15:18] <dinet> bekks: 14.10
[15:18] <bekks> dinet: How did you install gnome?
[15:19] <RRliko> oh, btw, since I'm already here - do the new releases of Ubuntu still come with Amazon adds in search results?
[15:19] <RRliko> haven't used the distro in a while
[15:20] <bekks> RRliko: You can disable it, since the first release.
[15:20] <dinet> bekks: the way I have always installed stuff. apt-get install gnome
[15:20] <RRliko> bekks: Oh no, I remember that in 11.10 it was not possible to disable it, you had to purge the entire app
[15:20] <bekks> RRliko: Then your memory is wrong, it was always possible.
[15:21] <RRliko> That was when I switched to Linux Mint, due to the spyware, hopefully it's not there anymore
[15:21] <RRliko> bekks: well, install it and see for yourself, in the first distro with Unity it was not possible
[15:21] <RRliko> bekks: maybe updates changed it later
[15:22] <RRliko> bekks: the option was only made available in 12.04
[15:22] <bekks> RRliko: So you are using Mint and dont even know if it doesnt use Amazon Ads? :D
[15:22] <RRliko> bekks: no, I use fedora
[15:22] <RRliko> *Fedora
[15:23] <bekks> So the Fedora support is the best place to ask on how to sandbox firefox in a Fedora installation.
[15:23] <OerHeks> That amazon thing was intentional, to see if you care about others :-D
[15:23] <OerHeks> Next!
[15:23] <zykotick9> RRliko: fyi http://www.pcworld.com/article/2840401/ubuntus-unity-8-desktop-removes-the-amazon-search-spyware.html
[15:23] <RRliko> bekks: The thing is, I need Ubuntu point of view as well
[15:23] <dinet> bekks: When I installed gnome the frontends for apt was not installed
[15:23] <bekks> RRliko: But you arent using Ubuntu now.
[15:24] <RRliko> bekks: That is correct.
[15:24] <lisak> hey
[15:24] <lisak> I heard Chef is to be part of default ubuntu 15.04 installation, is it already ?
[15:25] <lisak> in the pre-release versions ?
[15:25] <RRliko> zykotick9: It's good to know, however that will not get my trust back, I'll never use Ubuntu again.
[15:25] <bekks> RRliko: Then why are you seeking the Ubuntu support?
[15:25] <RRliko> zykotick9: Nonetheless, thank you for the link, it's good to know.
[15:25] <xangua> !15.04 | lisak
[15:25] <RRliko> RRliko: I've already explained that. Please stop unnecessarily taking my time.
[15:26] <RRliko> bekks: ^
[15:26] <bekks> RRliko: Yeah, stop unnecessarily taking out time, please.
[15:26] <gie> clear
[15:27] <RRliko> Anyone on ubuntu using sandbox?
[15:27] <RRliko> Sandbox, anyone? Please.
[15:29] <cfhowlett> RRliko, ask #fedora for assistance with fedora
[15:29] <RRliko> cfhowlett: I am not asking about Fedora. I am asking about sandbox on Ubuntu.
[15:29] <RRliko> Focus.
[15:29] <cfhowlett> RRliko, you stated you use fedora.  you stated you don't and will never use ubuntu.  you are in the wrong channel.
[15:30] <RRliko> Leave me alone, you won't understand.
[15:30] <OerHeks> RRliko, "I'll never use Ubuntu again." what do you do here ?
[15:31] <Ziber> Is 13.04 no longer supported?
[15:31] <RRliko> I need to know what software is used by Ubuntu users to sandbox applications.
[15:31] <genii> Ziber: Correct
[15:31] <teward> Ziber: yes, it is no longer supported.
[15:31] <teward> !13.04 | Ziber
[15:31] <Ziber> Well, hrm. How do I properly upgrade?
[15:31] <Ziber> !upgrade
[15:31] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | Ziber,
[15:31] <bekks> !eolupgrade
[15:32] <xangua> Ziber: it would be faster a clean install
[15:32] <Ziber> I've got a lot of stuff running on that box...
[15:32] <Ziber> I'd much rather upgrade
[15:32] <bekks> Ziber: So back it up.
[15:32] <xangua> good, a full day upgrading
[15:32] <cfhowlett> Ziber, incrementally upgrade to a supported version i.e. 13.04 > 13.10 > 14.04
[15:32] <xangua> or just backup and do a clean install ;) whatever you preffer
[15:32] <Ziber> Okay.
[15:33] <bekks> Backup before you upgrade or reinstall.
[15:33] <xangua> well maybe half a day minimum...that if everything goes with cero issues
[15:33] <bekks> Otherwise your data can be safely considered as not being worth to be kept.
[15:33] <Ziber> So, this is a server, how can I do this from cli?
[15:33] <bekks> !backup | Ziber
[15:33] <RRliko> Anyone in here using sandbox?
[15:34] <OerHeks> There are a lot of sandbox solutions, which one?
[15:34] <ioria> Ziber if you installed /home in a separate partition you can save it
[15:35] <RRliko> OerHeks: Something that could take care of Firefox, excluding SELinux.
[15:35] <RRliko> OerHeks: And excluding fully built virtual machines.
[15:35] <gie> clear
[15:35] <gie> sorry wrong chat
[15:36] <RRliko> OerHeks: Also, something that would successfully sandbox the entire browser with its plugins.
[15:36] <gunnar> MichaelHabib:  Yeah back, I'm brushing up on zone files as we speak.
[15:36] <Ziber> So, upgrading from a server?
[15:37] <RRliko> OerHeks: Obviously, it would still have to connect to the Internet. Any help much appreciated.
[15:38] <OerHeks> No clue without selinux, sorry
[15:38] <RRliko> OerHeks: SELinux is broken as of now. Sandboxing won't work.
[15:38] <RRliko> At least with the new update
[15:39] <RRliko> I mean, SELinux still works well, but sandboxing won't.
[15:40] <gunnar> MichaelHabib:  If you are there, what's the problem?
[15:52] <gunnar> bump
[15:52] <gunnar> :D
[16:00] <ioria> oh, another time, ...  statup firefox page  in spanish ...
[16:00] <jParkton> same here
[16:00] <jParkton> weird stuff
[16:01] <ioria> yep
[16:01] <jParkton> so now not only do I have to press 1 for English but I also have to assume my browser is in Spanish.... I need to practice up my spanish I guess, they taking over
[16:02] <ioria> lol
[16:02] <gunnar> The master domain server work in mysterious ways...
[16:02] <ioria> now back english again... mistery ofthe faith
[16:02] <gunnar> Maybe if we sacrfice a small goat?
[16:03] <ioria> gunnar : yes... for haggis maybe
[16:03] <jParkton> ioria: lol
[16:03] <jParkton> gunnar: im down!
[16:04] <jParkton> haggis is goat?
[16:04] <Seveas> jParkton: nobody expects the spanish browser!
[16:04] <gunnar> ioria: I'm icelandic, we eat sheep testicles... I win.
[16:04] <ioria> really ?
[16:04] <jParkton> This is true
[16:04] <jParkton> it certainly surprised me
[16:04] <Seveas> gunnar: and fermented shark. You're insane.
[16:04] <jParkton> gunnar: we eat them in NC too
[16:04] <spiff_> i love hakarl
[16:05] <gunnar> Yeah.. I'm personally never going to try it, but back in the day.. people used ALL of the animals.
[16:05] <gunnar> Poorer times
[16:05] <ioria> oh yes...  Þorramatur
[16:05]  * OerHeks loves raw herring
[16:05] <jParkton> danh OerHeks
[16:05] <jParkton> dang
[16:05] <OerHeks> Dutch specialty
[16:06] <gunnar> Seveas:  That actually the only way to eat shark, it would be toxic otherwise.
[16:06] <jParkton> that stuff smells interesting
[16:06] <OerHeks> But lets get back ontopic :-D
[16:06] <spiff_> goats?
[16:06] <jParkton> or join #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:06] <Seveas> OerHeks: is het al hollandse nieuwe tijd? :)
[16:06] <Seveas> so what's the topic? Spanish browsers or other problems?
[16:06] <gunnar> OerHeks: Aww this was just getting interesting :P
[16:07] <Seveas> gunnar: #ubuntu-offtopic welcomes you :)
[16:07] <gunnar> lulz :D
[16:07] <OerHeks> Neen,  10 juni 2015 or later
[16:07] <genii> We're already discussing bacon in there anyways
[16:08] <gunnar> jParkton: Am i correct in a assuming when you say NC you mean North Carolina?
[16:08] <jParkton> yessir
[16:08] <gunnar> cool
[16:09] <jParkton> testes are a southern traditional food
[16:09] <jParkton> "Rocky Mountain Spotted Oysters"
[16:10] <kumala> hi, I have a small doubt here. I have my OS installed on a drive and my storage on another drive. The storage drive is encrypted and when I boot on my OS drive I can mount it perfectly well. But, I have just tried to boot from a USB live OS and mounted the encrypted storage drive, entered the password, and it indeed mounted it but said I did not have the permissions when I tried to browse it. Then I switched to terminal and tried a `ls` on
[16:10] <kumala> it and it indeed said permission denied. Then I tried as root and I could access it. I am planning to reinstall the OS and I am afraid this permission denied thing would be a pain. Do you have any idea what is going on and if a fresh OS would be affected or if this could be related to the USB live OS?
[16:11] <jParkton> if there is a permissions issue shouldnt root be able to solve that? I have never setup like that but I assume chown can fix that?
[16:12] <zykotick9> kumala: if your user id, in terminal you can use "id" to find out what it is, matches on the new installation, it _should_ be fine.
[16:13] <kumala> yep, I thought maybe this is because the user / user id of the drive do not match the one on the USB live OS. But shouldn't this be taken care of by the ubuntu? If I have to "chown" it myself then I will do it, but I don't want to screw it if the OS has an automatic way to do it that I'm not aware of
[16:14] <genii> nobel peace
[16:15] <ioria> kumala did you mount the encrypted volumes ?
[16:15] <kumala> yes
[16:15] <ioria> kumala how
[16:15] <ioria> ?
[16:15] <kumala> I did it through the GUI, opening the icon. Then I checked with , mount, df...
[16:15] <kumala> I could access the files, so it was mounted
[16:16] <kumala> just the permissions were wrong
[16:16] <kumala> and I wonder if ubuntu takes care of that or if I should do it manually
[16:16] <ioria> kumala the mounted files are still encrypted or clear ?
[16:17] <kumala> clear
[16:17] <kumala> I provided my password during mount
[16:17] <ioria> kumala passphrase you mean ?
[16:17] <kumala> yes
[16:18] <ioria> kumala and you cannot open or write on them ?
[16:18] <kumala> with the default user of the ubuntu live USB, I can't read, but with root I can read write...
[16:19] <kumala> I wonder what would happen in case of a fresh install
[16:19] <ioria> ok, i'm out
[16:20] <kumala> if it's just a matter of changing ownership manually then I'll do it. But I somehow thought that was not very Ubuntuish
[16:20] <kumala> and I thought there must be something I got wrong
[16:24] <kumala> well I guess that must not be so wrong if no one is shoked by this :) So I will try the reinstall and then change ownership manually. Thanks!
[16:45] <hkrrsx> morning
[16:45] <esu> hkrrsx: morning? where are you from?
[16:45] <gunnar> afternoon here, but ok
[16:46] <hkrrsx> esu: I'd prefer not to announce my home address :)
[16:47] <gunnar> could give us your timezone just for kicks :D
[16:47] <hkrrsx> gunnar: Eastern Time
[16:48] <hkrrsx> esu: gunnar: This is a  Ubuntu support channel, let's keep this specifically related to support questions
[16:48] <gunnar> hkrrsx: awesome
[16:48] <hkrrsx> Otherwise, /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:48] <gunnar> hkrrsx: A thousand pardons.
[16:49] <hkrrsx> np
[17:05] <Sky_Symbol> hi, how can I switch language in gimp?
[17:05] <hkrrsx> Sky_Symbol: /join #gimp
[17:18] <aladiah> what it is the normal path after Libre Office install to reach Desktop-Integration  sub directory ?=
[17:21] <hkrrsx> aladiah: Please see this URL --  http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice-4-0-Unity-Integration-in-Ubuntu-12-04-td4035137.html
[17:22] <hkrrsx> It suggests to un-install your previous/current version of LibreOffice and then re-install via the Ubuntu repository
[17:22] <hkrrsx> i.e. - sudo apt-get install libreoffice
[17:23] <hkrrsx> Gotta go to a family event, bbl
[17:23] <Guest18463> Hello, I use Ubuntu 14.04 64bits. I was trying to boot Windows 8.1 in another HDD but failed, I use BOOT REPAIR to make GRUB detect my Windows HDD but could not login, after a few reboots I can no longer boot into Ubuntu either, this is what I got after a BOOT REPAIR> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10796502/
[17:23] <Guest18463> Anyone know how to make my ubuntu HDD run again_
[17:24] <aladiah> hkrrsx : please tell me where is it the libre office folder
[17:24] <Pumpkin-_> if I want a static /etc/resolv.conf and don't want resolvconf messing with it at all, what should I do ?. The fact /etc/resolv.conf is a symlink suggets in reality I can just replace that with a file, but is there something better I "should" be doing ?
[17:25] <aladiah> Pumpkin : do you know how to find de libre office folder ?
[17:26] <user_> can someone proofread something for me
[17:26] <daftykins> user_: no, this is ubuntu support - not "do my homework for me" :)
[17:26] <Pumpkin-_> aladiah: sorry, no I don't
[17:28] <k1l> user_: #ubuntu-offtopic is the chitchat channel. you can ask there for non ubuntu support help
[17:28] <aladiah> Pumpkin :  CD /usr/share/libreoffice
[17:28] <Pumpkin-_> well, if you know the answer, why are you asking me ?
[17:29] <aladiah> Pumpkin : someone told me in lubuntu channel. thanks anyhway
[17:29] <aladiah> was just to let you know too
[17:29] <aladiah> maybe you can help someone in future
[17:35] <Guest18463> Hello, I use Ubuntu 14.04 64bits. I was trying to boot Windows 8.1 in another HDD but failed, I use BOOT REPAIR to make GRUB detect my Windows HDD but could not login, after a few reboots I can no longer boot into Ubuntu either, this is what I got after a BOOT REPAIR> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10796502/
[17:35] <Guest18463> Anyone know how to make my ubuntu HDD run again_
[17:35] <Ziber> So, I'm at a grub prompt of my server, and it's saying "error: can't find command `kernel'."
[17:37] <daftykins> Ziber: what did you change last?
[17:38] <ioria> Guest18463, well, in theory, grub should be installed on the MBR of the master hhd...
[17:39] <Guest18463> ioria: It just does not login, it stays stuck in a blank screen
[17:39] <bangle> hey all i have a problem. a couple days ago i ago i deleted a version of python from my system and a bunch of other programs were deleted with it. everything seemed to be fine, until a recent update to ubuntu and restart. now i don't see file menus, can't use ctrl-T. its as if the windowing system of ubuntu is gone
[17:39] <Guest18463> ioria: Not even after removing the Windows HDD will it login
[17:40] <Guest18463> ioria: The master HDD is Ubuntu, the slave is Windows
[17:40] <Ziber> I upgrade to 13.10 and then rebooted
[17:40] <Ziber> So, libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[17:41] <daftykins> Ziber: do you have a RAID disk setup for where the OS is installed?
[17:41] <Ziber> from my grub output.
[17:41] <Ziber> nah
[17:41] <daftykins> Ziber: ok is there much on this machine that a clean install would be a serious undertaking?
[17:41] <Ziber> kinda
[17:42] <Guest18463> I cant do a clean install either, I have important files there, and my HDD is encrypted, so I cant access from this liveCD
[17:42] <bangle> is there a workaround to access the terminal? ctrl-T isn't working for me
[17:42] <ioria> Guest18463, the slave disk with windows doesn't work alone, i suppose
[17:42] <daftykins> Ziber: because right now, even if you fixed a 13.10 install - you've still got to upgrade to 14.04 to be running a supported release. so i'd just clean install if i were you
[17:42] <Guest18463> ioria: Nope, not work at all
[17:42] <MonkeyDust> bangle  ctrl-alt F1
[17:43] <ioria> Guest18463, neither set as master ?
[17:43] <Ziber> Gotta find a USB then.. :(
[17:44] <Guest18463> ioria: No, must be the new UEFI thing or secure boot on Windows, my BIOS does not have those options
[17:44] <ioria> Guest18463, secure boot can be disabled ...
[17:45] <ioria> Guest18463, that's the first installation ? it never works before ?
[17:46] <victor__> hello! Is anybody using Kubuntu 15.04? It's just to confirm an issue i'm having, each time i launch an app with sudo, plasma crashes and it never works again
[17:46] <Guest18463> ioria: My ASUS P5Q Pro motherboard does not have those options, unless it is hidden
[17:47] <bangle> monkeydust: thank you
[17:48] <Guest18463> ioria: I have been using Ubuntu 14.04 for a while, it was working fine until the @Boot repair@ thing, my guess it was that thing broke everything
[17:48] <esu> help
[17:48] <esu> no bot here?
[17:48] <ioria> Guest18463, why did you use it ? i don't remember
[17:48] <zerowaitstate> !ubottu
[17:49] <tzanolo> hello, good afternoon. Im with a trouble: all my control panel itens disapeared. I cannot change mouse, screen, monitor, keyboard anymore.
[17:49] <tzanolo> I have 3 users and root enabled, no of the users appears any pannel.
[17:51] <Ziber> So, I've got a USB. What do I need to do to make it bootable, from a mac?
[17:52] <TheNumb> Ziber: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[17:52] <daftykins> Ziber: erk, mac - i don't know how device naming works for them, lets see - do you have a 14.04 server 64-bit ISO downloaded already?
[17:52] <daftykins> TheNumb has given you a helpful link ^_^
[17:52] <Ziber> I'm just downloading a 14.10 server 64bit iso
[17:53] <Ziber> yeah, thanks
[17:53] <daftykins> Ziber: i do not recommend using non-Long Term Support editions for server, stick to 14.04
[17:53] <TheNumb> ^
[17:53] <TheNumb> daftykins++
[17:53] <Ziber> oh, right, duh
[17:53] <Ziber> lol
[17:56] <aladiah> how to creat menu short cut to Libre office
[17:57] <Vyom> hi peole.. I think I am in some serious shit.. I booted with a Ubuntu 14.04 usb stick, and choose to install it overwriting old Ubuntu.. but I think it overwrote my entire 1 Tb hdd
[17:57] <Vyom> PLEASE HELP! :|
[17:57] <daftykins> Vyom: ok well at the very least please be polite whilst in here
[17:57] <delinquentme> Vyom are you currently allowing the install screen to keep running?
[17:57] <MonkeyDust> Vyom  avoid profane words and caps
[17:58] <Vyom> delinquentme: Its all done now.. I have a fresh Ubuntu, with XChat running
[17:58] <k1l> Vyom: what was on the disk before?
[17:58] <delinquentme> Vyom daftykins knows that hes doing -- hes quite helpful
[17:58] <Vyom> Windows ... documetns, images .. all my life :|
[17:58] <k1l> Vyom: are you booted into the ubuntu right now? or on the live usb?
[17:58] <Vyom> k1l: yes
[17:58] <daftykins> Vyom: can you boot back into the live USB session and come back on here?
[17:58] <daftykins> install or live session?
[17:58] <delinquentme> "yes"
[17:58] <Vyom> Installed session
[17:58] <delinquentme> kek
[17:59] <k1l> Vyom: can you pastebin a "suod fdisk -l" (small L at the end) into a pastebin?
[17:59] <k1l> !paste | Vyom
[17:59] <k1l> Vyom: "sudo fdisk -l"
[17:59] <k1l> (sorry had a typo)
[17:59] <ioria> Vyom, you have surely partitioned such a drive
[18:00] <Vyom> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10810051/
[18:00] <Guest18463> ioria: I was trying to dual boot Windows 8.1
[18:00] <Guest18463> Is there a way to fix this_
[18:00] <k1l> Vyom: "sudo gdisk -l" please, since its a gpt partition sheme"
[18:00] <ioria> Vyom, no you haven't
[18:01] <Vyom> Problem opening -l for reading! Error is 2.
[18:01] <Vyom> The specified file does not exist!
[18:01] <k1l> i hate gpt, whats the commands for that again?
[18:02] <k1l> sudo gdisk -L should do
[18:02] <daftykins> sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda
[18:03] <Vyom> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10810084/ Please help :(
[18:03] <Thenewone> Hi GUYS
[18:03] <Thenewone> Higuys *
[18:03] <Ziber> Okay, so I've got the iso I need. I can just use dd to put it on the usb, right?
[18:04] <daftykins> Vyom: can you "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "sudo parted -l | pastebinit" ?
[18:04] <daftykins> Ziber: use the link earlier, it shows how to do it with macs
[18:04] <Thenewone> i have ubuntu server on vbox how can  connect to it out when i'm in work ?
[18:04] <Vyom> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10810096/
[18:05] <daftykins> Vyom: yes you've wiped the lot
[18:05] <k1l> Vyom: seems like you formated the whole drive
[18:05] <Vyom> wth man ... :( I just told ubuntu to overwrite "old ubuntu" how can it format whole drive
[18:06] <Guest18463> I am starting to doubt Linux's stability...
[18:06] <Vyom> did it just cleaned the index, all formatted the sectors as well..
[18:06] <Vyom> can I recover?
[18:06] <ioria> Guest18463, you installed windows after ubuntu ?
[18:06] <daftykins> Vyom: if your data was after the ubuntu install it might be possible to recover yeah, with something like 'testdisk'
[18:06] <k1l> !testdisk | Vyom
[18:06] <Vyom> I have used testdisk before to recover lost android data..
[18:07] <daftykins> i have no experience with testdisk to know if it recovers data in-place or whether you need another drive to restore it to, though
[18:07] <Guest18463> ioria: Yes, it is in another HDD http://paste.ubuntu.com/10796502/
[18:07] <Vyom> I have another drive 2 TB external hdd, if I need to recover
[18:07] <daftykins> ah ok
[18:07] <daftykins> well, 'sudo apt-get install testdisk' and give it a go i guess
[18:07] <Vyom> question is, can it recover.. and is there some GOOD recovery program for Ubuntu
[18:08] <ioria> Guest18463, you should have installed ubuntu after windows
[18:08] <Guest18463> I am going to use BOOT REPAIR again and see what happens
[18:08] <erwyn> Hello guys
[18:08] <daftykins> hi
[18:08] <Kaby> anyone knows show to hide ip on ubuntu 14.10 with tor browser please , mark my name if you want to answer me to notice please
[18:08] <erwyn> I have a problem with nvidia prime
[18:08] <Kaby> how to show*
[18:08] <erwyn> I enabled it and now my session won't start
[18:08] <k1l> Vyom: in general: formating is not overwriting but just forgetting where it was stored until the exact space on the hdd is overwritten with other data. so maybe there is some hope to get some data back.
[18:09] <Bashing-om> Vyom: Perhaps a victim of this bug ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1265192 .
[18:09] <daftykins> erwyn: via 'additional drivers' ?
[18:09] <Guest18463> ioria: Ok, if that makes Linux happy I will install Windows first, well, it is already installed...
[18:09] <erwyn> daftykins: no command line
[18:09] <daftykins> erwyn: apt-get install nvidia-prime ?
[18:09] <erwyn> daftykins: ja
[18:09] <daftykins> yeah that's wrong.
[18:09] <erwyn> :(
[18:09] <MonkeyDust> Guest18463  windows ruins grub, that's why you should windows first, then linux
[18:09] <k1l> Vyom: so in general i would say: use dd_rescue to make a 1to1 backup and then try to recover the data from that.
[18:09] <MonkeyDust> should install*
[18:09] <daftykins> erwyn: so what do you want to do first, recover the desktop? can you get to a shell?
[18:10] <erwyn> daftykins: yes i have a shell
[18:10] <daftykins> erwyn: sudo apt-get purge nvidia*
[18:10] <daftykins> then reboot.
[18:10] <erwyn> okay
[18:11] <Guest18463> MonkeyDust: even if its in another HDD_
[18:11] <MonkeyDust> Guest18463  you see what happened
[18:11] <erwyn> daftykins: okay done
[18:11] <Ziber> I'm having trouble using diskutil and dd to put an iso on a usb on mac osx. Keeps saying the device is busy
[18:11] <ioria> Guest18463, does no  matter...
[18:12] <daftykins> Ziber: it's probably mounted in the finder, unmount it
[18:12] <Ziber> I did.
[18:12] <Vyom> daftykins: I am trying to use testdisk, it's beyond my level of knowledge about disk structure etc.. is thre some gui based recovery tool for ubuntu?
[18:12] <erwyn> daftykins: but I don't have my desktop back :(
[18:12] <daftykins> Ziber: i don't know how device management with macs works well enough to advise you sadly. which command is failing exactly?
[18:12] <daftykins> erwyn: after a full reboot?
[18:13] <Guest18463> Ill reboot and see what happens...
[18:13] <Ziber> http://pastebin.com/4MgmF8uB
[18:13] <Vyom> I spend my last month writing about Ubuntu and how to do stuff on it (for newbies coming from Windows) but I did that all on virtual ubuntu, and now this eff up happened! :'(
[18:13] <erwyn> daftykins: I'm rebooting again just to be sure
[18:13] <Guest18463> wish me luck :)
[18:13] <ioria> Guest18463, install w8    mbr not gpt
[18:14] <Ziber> daftykins: See my paste? http://pastebin.com/4MgmF8uB
[18:14] <Vyom> Someone PLEASE help me.. I just lost my "life" while migrating to Ubuntu.. and if I can't recover data .. I am afriad that would leave very bad impression of Ubuntu
[18:14] <daftykins> Ziber: yeah, can you share "diskutil list" too?
[18:14] <ioria> Guest18463, on your pc you should't have uefi so... it's good ... but check for secure boot option in bios
[18:14] <MonkeyDust> Vyom  you should have made backups
[18:14] <daftykins> Ziber: is maybe the GUI Disk Utility still open locking it?
[18:14] <erwyn> daftykins: ah, I can still purge, relauching it
[18:15] <Vyom> MonkeyDust: I have backup, but not for last few months
[18:15] <Ziber> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/6M5KZHFU
[18:15] <daftykins> Vyom: no idea of GUI data recovery, sorry.
[18:16] <Guest18463> REBOOTING
[18:16] <ioria> Vyom maybe you need 'phisical' assistance ... i mean a shop
[18:16] <daftykins> Ziber: ah it's one of those U3 partition flash drives, i wonder if it's unhappy about that. i really don't have enough experience with OS X to advise i'm afraid... try unplugging, booting fresh, then trying again
[18:17] <daftykins> Ziber: i suspect it's mounted or in use somewhere
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> Vyom  or paid professional assistance
[18:17] <banshee> which package is responsible for the bar on the upper part of the screen?
[18:17] <Vyom> ioria: thanks man.. looks like I messed up. No one can really help me. I would have to help myself. I would read a guide on internet about testdisk and will reover my data.
[18:17] <Ziber> daftykins: hmmm
[18:17] <banshee> that holds the shutdown icon, networking, etc
[18:17] <ioria> Vyom best wishes and despair
[18:17] <ioria> not despair
[18:19] <erwyn> daftykins: Yeah I confirm that I still don't have anything but notifications and background. I can right click and so on. but I don't have title bar or side bar
[18:20] <daftykins> erwyn: oh ok so it is there, just not a full GUI. can you switch to TTY1 and run "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "lspci | pastebinit" - share the link here - and also for "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" ?
[18:21] <erwyn> daftykins: doing it right now
[18:21] <Ziber> Oh, I figured it out.
[18:21] <Ziber> Burning now :)
[18:21] <Ziber> extremely slowlyt ho
[18:21] <Ziber> *tho
[18:22] <daftykins> well, copying - i sure hope a flash drive isn't using a laser to etch holes in a plastic disc
[18:22] <ciju> Hi guys.How can I see whether I have installed cigc++-2.0 package on my system?
[18:22] <daftykins> ;)
[18:22] <daftykins> ciju: "dpkg -l | grep cigc"
[18:22] <Ziber> yeah, sorry
[18:22] <erwyn> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10810223/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/10810229/
[18:22] <daftykins> if you're sure on that package name
[18:22] <ikonia> ciju: just look in the package manager
[18:22] <Ziber> is a 1m block size critical?
[18:22] <ciju> daftykins: thanks
[18:23] <ikonia> you'll see it either marked as installed or available for install, that will tell you
[18:23] <daftykins> erwyn: is this a laptop?
[18:23] <Thenewone> so this is very bad way to use ssh
[18:23] <Thenewone> what is the secure way guys ?
[18:23] <erwyn> not really. It is a all-in-one pc. But from a hardware point of view it looks like a laptop
[18:23] <Thenewone> wrong channel
[18:23] <ioria> cigc++
[18:24] <daftykins> erwyn: "dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit" please
[18:24] <erwyn> daftykins: not sent cause empty
[18:25] <daftykins> erwyn: any result from "dpkg -l | grep nvidia" at all?
[18:25] <ioria> !info  libsigc++-2.0
[18:25] <erwyn> daftykins: I confirm
[18:26] <daftykins> erwyn: do you have auto login on, or do you boot to the login screen? i'd test the guest session if the latter
[18:26] <erwyn> daftykins: guest session is working
[18:27] <erwyn> daftykins: was working with prime as well
[18:28] <Ziber> oh that was easy
[18:28] <daftykins> erwyn: oh ok, in that case there might just be something of your user configuration which has gone funny... here's the quick shotgun approach: logged in at the TTY as your user, not root, run "mv ~/.config ~/.config-old" then "sudo service lightdm restart"
[18:28] <Bashing-om> Vyom: See: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/15761/recover-data-like-a-forensics-expert-using-an-ubuntu-live-cd/ <- written in a user-friendly way and introduces you to testdisk in a gentle way: , http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step // https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery . Hope this helps .
[18:29] <erwyn> daftykins: okay it's back
[18:30] <ali_> hi
[18:30] <daftykins> erwyn: if you have any software program configurations, they'll be in ~/.config-old/program name here/ so you'd have to move them back if you want them :)
[18:31] <daftykins> erwyn: what you could try to get a proper driver on then, is to run "sudo apt-get install nvidia-331 nvidia-prime nvidia-settings"
[18:31] <ali_> anybody know how i can run cpp c++ files in terminal ?
[18:32] <erwyn> daftykins: okay I'll try this thank you
[18:32] <daftykins> np
[18:32] <ioria> ali_ run the executive you mean ?
[18:32] <ali_> no for programming
[18:32] <ali_> no, for programmin
[18:33] <ioria> ali_  in terminal you can write a program with text editor, compile, link and  then execute with ./filename
[18:34] <sjoshi> ali_: you can follow this http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-compile-and-run-c-cplusplus-code-in-linux/
[18:34] <banshee> can someone help me out. kinda having serious problems here
[18:35] <banshee> there is no sidebar, and ther eis no bar at the top of the screen
[18:35] <ali_> like this :   desktop$     ./file.cpp   ???
[18:35] <sjoshi> ali_: please follow the the link that i have mentioned
[18:36] <ali_> OK
[18:36] <ioria> ali_  you cannot run a source file
[18:37] <den_is_ok> hello
[18:37] <ioria> ali_  you can run an executive after compilation
[18:37] <ali_> @ioria @sjoshi  : menas i need a compiler , gedit g++ is not compiler ??
[18:38] <ioria> ali_  sure it is
[18:38] <sergio-br2> Are there a special reason why ubuntu does not install broadcom wifi drivers after you intall ubuntu?
[18:38] <ioria> ali_  but i suggest the build utils
[18:38] <den_is_ok> Is there anyone from Russia
[18:39] <erwyn> daftykins: wow shit prime is working so much better that optirun… thanks for the help!
[18:39] <ioria> ali_  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[18:39] <ciju> Seems like I dont have this  cigc++ installed anywhere.... I went to packages.ubuntu.com and downloaded Package "libsigc++-2.0-dev". When I try to install it I get is "Dependency is not satisfiable: libsigc++-2.0c2a(=2.2.2.2-1)
[18:39] <sergio-br2> I mean, it gets the driver from the image, so you can access internet from the live DVD. But after install, you don't have the broadcom installed
[18:39] <sergio-br2> it's just stupid, ihmo
[18:40] <SchrodingersScat> !ru | den_is_ok
[18:40] <ali_> @ioria i did it now
[18:40] <daftykins> erwyn: np, enjoy :) and er... easy on the language ;)
[18:40] <EriC^^> !info b43-fwcutter
[18:40] <erwyn> daftykins: yes, sorry ;)
[18:40] <den_is_ok> #ubuntu-ru
[18:42] <ali_> thanks every body
[18:44] <banshee> what ist he package that creates the sidebar?
[18:44] <banshee> mine is missing
[18:44] <ioria> sergio-br2, it depends ... it's proprietary
[18:44] <sergio-br2> yeah, I know
[18:45] <sergio-br2> but I don't have ethernet access
[18:45] <ioria> sergio-br2, wifi or ethernet ?
[18:45] <sergio-br2> so for me, it's just someway stupid this behavior
[18:45] <sergio-br2> wifi
[18:45] <ioria> sergio-br2, ok... STA  then ... a moment
[18:45] <sergio-br2> broadcom wifi, is what I need. And in the place I am, it's not possible to use ethernet
[18:48] <bekks> sergio-br2: by "ethernet" you mean "cabled network"?
[18:48] <sergio-br2> yeah, I don't have it, neither access where I am
[18:49] <sergio-br2> so, my only option is wifi, which don't work
[18:49] <bekks> Define "dont work" then pleas.e
[18:49] <sergio-br2> ubuntu install should install this broadcom wifi, if you are using in the Live
[18:50] <bekks> On the live, yes. But not on the system actually installed.
[18:51] <gunnar> Sergio-br2:  This probably has already been explained to you, but since the broadcom firmware is propriatary it's not legal for Canonical to distribute it with the distro.
[18:51] <gunnar> But I understand how you feel :)
[18:51] <ioria> sergio-br2, try sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source   and then recheck the Additional Drivers
[18:51] <EriC^^> sergio-br2: you can mount the live usb and use the file in pool/b/b43-fwcutter or so to install it
[18:51] <bekks> ioria: that will not change anything.
[18:51] <ioria> oh
[18:51] <bekks> sergio-br2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[18:51] <EriC^^> if you don't have an internet connection
[18:52] <sergio-br2> "it's not legal for Canonical to distribute it with the distro"
[18:52] <ioria> sorry
[18:52] <banshee> anyone...?
[18:52] <sergio-br2> but it cames with the DVD iso... come on...
[18:52] <ciju> exit
[18:54] <daftykins> sergio-br2: best find a place you can / learn how to install the required packages from the disc then :)
[18:55] <gunnar> Sergio-br2:  Sorry I misunderstood, I mean to say that these drivers are closed source and therefor can not be updated or worked on by Canonical, so only broadcom handles that.
[18:55] <zerowaitstate> sergio-br2: welcome to the insane world of patent and copyright law.
[18:56] <sergio-br2> How can I use apt-get, without internet?
[18:56] <sergio-br2> Ok, mount first
[18:56] <EriC^^> sergio-br2: mount the live usb with sudo mount -o loop /dev/sr0 /mnt , then cd to pool/main/b/b43-fwcutter or so and type sudo dpkg -i b43-fwcutter....deb
[18:57] <gunnar> sergia-br2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto
[18:57] <EriC^^> */mnt/pool/main...
[18:57] <gunnar> *sergio
[18:58] <sergio-br2> "failed to setup loop device: No medium found"
[18:59] <EriC^^> type lsblk and get your usb
[18:59] <EriC^^> sorry sr0 is for the cd
[18:59] <sergio-br2> i.e. /dev/sdb1
[19:00] <EriC^^> sergio-br2: yeah
[19:01] <Ziber> What xen support does 14.04 have?
[19:02] <matthew> hi
 sergio-br2: welcome to the insane world of patent and copyright law.
[19:03] <sergio-br2> insane and stupid
[19:03] <sergio-br2> ok, worked
[19:04] <ovsjanij> test
[19:04] <ovsjanij> What about https?
[19:04] <daftykins> Ziber: the primary virt tech for ubuntu moved to KVM i think, Xen might've become a bit more neglected
[19:06] <ovsjanij> test again
[19:06] <ovsjanij> hi
[19:06] <ovsjanij> hello
[19:06] <ovsjanij> respect
[19:06] <ovsjanij> say som
[19:06] <ioria> ovsjanij, secure http, means with ssl
[19:06] <daftykins> hi, do you have a support question?
[19:06] <sohrab> can anyone help me out?
[19:06] <daftykins> sohrab: not until you explain what is wrong
[19:07] <ovsjanij> ok
[19:07] <ovsjanij> what about ssl
[19:07] <ovsjanij> ?
[19:07] <sohrab> daftykins: the sidebar is missing, and the top menu bar is gone too
[19:07] <ovsjanij> what about him
[19:07] <sohrab> after a reinstall
[19:07] <ioria> ovsjanij, the comunication server-client is encrypted
[19:08] <bekks> ovsjanij: Whats your support question?
[19:08] <daftykins> sohrab: reinstall, keeping /home - or totally blank?
[19:08] <sohrab> daftykins: also, i deleted python3.4 the other day, and it removed a bunch of othe rprograms. i reinstalled them all. but after a restart i'm missing the sidebar and menu
[19:08] <daftykins> sohrab: does the guest session work?
[19:08] <sohrab> daftykins, sorry, i don't understand your question
[19:08] <sohrab> daftykins: idk what that is.
[19:08] <ovsjanij> ok. fine
[19:09] <ovsjanij> thank you all
[19:09] <ovsjanij> : ) :
[19:09] <sohrab> i'm on the computer right now. it starts up, but it's difficult to open anything
[19:09] <daftykins> sohrab: it's where you click 'guest session' on the login screen
[19:09] <ioria> ovsjanij, try openssl
[19:10] <sohrab> daftykins: should i try to start a guest session? i would need to restart (because the top menu bar doesn't exist -- i restart from the command line using ctrl-alt-f1)
[19:10] <daftykins> sohrab: sure - if you get the login screen and don't have auto-login yep
[19:11] <ovsjanij> please
[19:11] <ovsjanij> give me something information
[19:11] <ovsjanij> about
[19:11] <ovsjanij> linux distr
[19:11] <sohrab> daftykins, k, i can do that. what will it show? whether the same problem exists on the guest account?
[19:11] <ovsjanij> for us
[19:11] <bekks> ioria: We dont even know what he is going to do?
[19:11] <ovsjanij> for me
[19:11] <bekks> ovsjanij: "Ubuntu".
[19:11] <daftykins> ovsjanij: please phrase a complete question on a single line if you want a response.
[19:11] <ovsjanij> and for..
[19:11] <ioria> true
[19:11] <daftykins> ovsjanij: stop pressing enter. it is spammy and irritating.
[19:12] <ovsjanij> deinterlejsting
[19:13] <ovsjanij> deindeterleisting, my friends
[19:13] <daftykins> ovsjanij: you are making zero sense unfortunately
[19:13] <bekks> ovsjanij: Whats your actual support question?
[19:13] <jParkton> ovsjanij: what do you need information on?
[19:14] <ovsjanij> about it.
[19:14] <bekks> ovsjanij: About what?
[19:14] <ovsjanij> about flash.
[19:15] <bekks> ovsjanij: Whats your actual Ubuntu support question?
[19:15] <gunnar> He's obviously trolling. Ignore.
[19:15] <sohrab> daftykins, k, i can do that. what will it show? whether the same problem exists on the guest account?
[19:16] <daftykins> sohrab: yes whether it's your user config or a system wide issue
[19:16] <ovsjanij> What tipe of device you will develope?
[19:17] <sohrab> daftykins, ok, thanks. will do that right now
[19:17] <bazhang> ovsjanij, thats not on topic here
[19:17] <ovsjanij> bazhang sorry
[19:17] <bazhang> ovsjanij, this is ubuntu support only, take chat elsewhere
[19:29] <Ziber> I tried installing bird, and it installed it, but the upstart script failed (it never seems to know what its own PID is). How can I get apt-get to stop giving me those errors?
[19:30] <gunnar> Ziber: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto ?
[19:30] <MonkeyDust> what's bird?
[19:30] <Ziber> bird is a BGP daemon
[19:30] <bekks> Ziber: And whats the message you get?
[19:31] <Ziber> http://pastebin.com/xw3HHnXA
[19:31] <streulma> hello I have the ASUS X205TA but sound is as expected not working it is rt5648 and is for the moment unsupported in kernel 4.0 rc7
[19:31] <streulma> other ones also has an X205TA ?
[19:32] <TheBigDeal> Hello
[19:32] <hroi> hi
[19:32] <TheBigDeal> When does ubuntu 15.04 officially release?
[19:32] <Ziber> bekks: Any idea?
[19:32] <hroi> apt is not allowing me to install anything
[19:32] <gunnar> Ziber, what about building from source?
[19:32] <hroi> it says, E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[19:33] <hroi> is that good advice?
[19:33] <bekks> Ziber: Take a look at the script and find ou why it isnt starting up.
[19:33] <bekks> gunnar: that will not magically fix the script.
[19:33] <Ziber> bekks: It doesn't ever know its own pid.
[19:34] <gunnar> bekks: I'm aware of that, was hoping the script aws in the source tarball to get him to take a look at it.
[19:34] <Ziber> bird start/running, process 2223
[19:34] <Ziber> root@apollo:~# ps aux | grep bird
[19:34] <Ziber> bird      2225  0.0  0.0  15344  2472 ?        S    15:34   0:00 /usr/sbin/bird -f -u bird -g bird
[19:34] <ioria> Ziber there was a reason to install this bird ?
[19:34] <Ziber> I wouldn't install it if there wasn't a reason :)
[19:35] <ioria> Ziber to test it ?
[19:35] <Ziber> I'm playing with it on the DN42 network
[19:36] <gunnar> and who knows the script could possibly be ok in the tarball, and not in the repos.  Stranger things have happened :)
[19:37] <ioria> !info bird
[19:39] <__martin__> how to turn off ALR key GRAB by Unity the quickest way? thanks
[19:39] <sohrab> daftykins: good call. logging in as a guest user solves the problem
[19:40] <__martin__> how to turn off ALR key GRAB by Unity the quickest way? thanks
[19:40] <__martin__> ALT*
[19:40] <Ziber> No ideas about bird then?
[19:40] <daftykins> sohrab: but if you switch back to your normal user, is it still causing trouble? if so, open a terminal or hit ctrl+alt+F1 and login, then try "mv ~/.config ~/.configold" for a test
[19:41] <gunnar> Ziber: Just for my peace of mind, could you try building bird from source?
[19:42] <sohrab> daftykins, k, gonna do that now, thanks
[19:42] <Ziber> gunnar: Yeah, I suppose. I'm looking at the upstart script first ho
[19:42] <Ziber> *tho
[19:42] <daftykins> sohrab: bear in mind it will 'hide' all your softwares settings, but you can move the contents of .configold back one by one to resolve that
[19:42] <gunnar> Ziber: Cool
[19:43] <sohrab> daftykins, i dont understand
[19:44] <sohrab> daftykins: i just typed the command. it just goes blank and returns to thsi guest session
[19:44] <Ziber> is start-stop-daemon a global thing?
[19:44] <daftykins> sohrab: make sure you ran it as your user and not as the guest, then restart, log in as your user and the desktop should work as normal
[19:45] <sohrab> daftykins, was i supposed to do the opposite? mv ~/.configold ~/.config?
[19:46] <daftykins> sohrab: nope
[19:46] <sohrab> daftykins, okay, i understand. will restart now
[19:47] <ioria> Ziber i had no problem to install it
[19:47] <Ziber> via apt?
[19:47] <__martin__> got it
[19:47] <ioria> Ziber yep
[19:48] <Ziber> does the output of its pid (when restarting it) match ps aux | grep bird?
[19:48] <ioria> Ziber  5299 ?        00:00:00 bird
[19:48] <ioria>  5342 ?        00:00:00 bird6
[19:49] <Ziber> That didn't answer my question.
[19:49] <sohrab> daftykins: no luck.
[19:49] <ioria> Ziber  yes ...
[19:49] <Ziber> Well, I purged it and reinstalled it. No change.
[19:50] <daftykins> sohrab: just to be sure, when you ran the mv command i mentioned - was it in a terminal inside the guest session (GUI) ?
[19:50] <yaclm> Hello! My laptop lags after startup and there is a huge delay for mouse and keyboard inputs. htop shows 50% cpu load (kernel) but doesn't show which command causes this huge load. any hints, keywords, solutions?
[19:50] <ioria> Ziber  http://paste.ubuntu.com/10810844/
[19:51] <sohrab> daftykins: no it wasn't it was inside the other session (my normal one) using ctrl-alt-f1
[19:51] <bekks> yaclm: Show us a pastebin of "top" please.
[19:51] <gunnar> Ziber: I just tried to install bird too,  I got the same error as you.
[19:51] <Ziber> Huh.
[19:51] <Ziber> ioria: what OS?
[19:51] <ioria> Ziber  utopic
[19:51] <daftykins> sohrab: ah good good, so you saw "myusername@computername:~# " before you ran it?
[19:52] <sohrab> daftykins: yes
[19:52] <Ziber> ioria: 14.04?
[19:53] <ioria> Ziber  no..  10
[19:53] <Ziber> Okay, so difference.
[19:53] <daftykins> sohrab: definitely the standard unity desktop yeah?
[19:53] <yaclm> bekks, this problem lasts for about 1 minute after startup in ~3/5 times. I will try to reproduce the problem and pastebin it. on Debian 7.8 htop showed a kworker thread causing 50% load, ubuntu shows nothing.
[19:53] <ioria> Ziber  3.16.0-34-generic
[19:54] <Ziber> ioria: can you just paste your upstart script?
[19:54] <sohrab> daftykins: i think so. don't remember changing anything.
[19:54] <bekks> yaclm: So show us a "top" output, not a "htop" one :)
[19:54] <sohrab> daftykins: i deleted python a few days ago, and i think i reinstalled it properly, could that be it?
[19:55] <sohrab> daftykins: so, before i did that, i screwed around with a setting to get past a python bug. i think i set an environmental variable or soemthing
[19:55] <daftykins> sohrab: not if it looks and behaves fine in the guest session, nah
[19:55] <daftykins> sohrab: hrmm i don't know if unity uses python, wouldn't hurt to try and reverse it
[19:56] <yaclm> bekks, top doesn't show anything, too, but give me a minute i will try to reproduce the problem and save top's output.
[19:56] <sohrab> daftykins: ok. maybe it's that variable i changed? i think i tried to start python as 2.7 (vs the 3.4 version that i had installed)
[19:56] <ioria> Ziber  /etc/init.d/   no ?
[19:56] <sohrab> daftykins: where is it stored?
[19:56] <daftykins> sohrab: no clue i'm afraid
[19:56] <Ziber> ioria: yes.
[19:56] <sohrab> daftykins: okay, thank you for your help
[19:56] <Anonymauz> anyone can help to troubleshoot a weird thing with layouts?
[19:58] <ioria> Ziber  please, give me  the name... :-(
[19:58] <Ziber> ioria: bired
[19:58] <Ziber> *bird
[19:58] <Anonymauz> i am using kubuntu 15.04, i have en and ru keyboard layouts. When i switch to another window or press Enter in browser text edit field - my layout switches to default(en_US). I have "Global switching policy" in keyboard settings. What's wrong with it?
[19:58] <ioria> Ziber  bird and bird6 ...
[19:58] <ioria> coming
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> Anonymauz: #ubuntu+1 for Vivid support
[19:59] <ioria> Ziber  http://paste.ubuntu.com/10810909/
[20:00] <ubx2> hello
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> Hi ubx2
[20:00] <ioria> Ziber  http://paste.ubuntu.com/10810914/
[20:03] <ubx2> i have a hundreds of virtual servers around the world and i'm looking to build my own backup solution. most of the servers are deployed using automation so only a few things need to be backed up like clients website files etc to remote object storage (s3/google). should i build an application that remotely connects to each server and rsyncs the relevant files or do i let each machine back itself up?
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> ubx2: what storage do they sit on (hoping netapp)
[20:04] <daftykins> ubx2: probably a better question for #linux in general, not ubuntu support.
[20:04] <gunnar> Ziber: I just downloaded and built from the sources, that worked without problems and htop reports correct PID.
[20:04] <compdoc> backintime is nice. rsync is nice, but you'll ahve to create crons
[20:04] <compdoc> what size is your storage?
[20:05] <gunnar> Ziber: That's at least one solution, just build from source.
[20:05] <bekks> ubx2: That application is already invented, and its names are bacula or backuppc, e.g.
[20:06] <Ziber> gunnar: could probably just use that upstart script
[20:06] <ioria> Ziber  hodně štěstí
[20:06] <gunnar> Ziber: Or that, just wanted to let you know it works. :)
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> bekks: if it's netapp then it's even easier :-)
[20:06] <bekks> ActionParsnip: I thought he is using a storage, not some toy :>
[20:07] <ioria> Ziber  tak ahoj
[20:07] <gunnar> Ziber:  You'll need flex, bison and libreadline-dev to build from sources though.
[20:08] <ioria> Ziber  i mean good luck with that
[20:08] <gunnar> iroria: Means to say good luck and bye?
[20:08] <gunnar> iroria: :-D
[20:08] <ioria> yep you too gunnar :-)
[20:09] <gunnar> don't want to go offtopic again.  I got yelled at.  So.. kewl? :P
[20:10] <Ziber> nah, the upstart script still has the wrong one.
[20:11] <gunnar> Ziber: Strange, like I said I built from source and used the startscript from the tarball, no problems on this end.
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> bekks: have you used netapp. It rocks
[20:12] <gunnar> Ziber: Maybe just ditch the apt-get version and build from source and use that?
[20:12] <Ziber> :/
[20:12] <Ziber> where'd you get the source?
[20:12] <bekks> ActionParsnip: I did. I dont like them.
[20:12] <gunnar> one moment
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> bekks: gotcha
[20:12] <gunnar> Ziber: http://bird.network.cz/?download
[20:12] <Ziber> ty
[20:13] <gunnar> np
[20:16] <peti> hello
[20:16] <GeHa> hello
[20:17] <hkrrsx> morning again
[20:18] <Ziber> It didn't, uh, make a start script?
[20:20] <daftykins> hkrrsx: wb
[20:20] <hkrrsx> daftykins: ty
[20:20] <Ziber> where's the start script?
[20:21] <_kristof> hi! is there a guide for beginners installing ubuntu _server_ ?
[20:21] <gunnar> Ziber: Don't need one, just set params in the conf /etc/bird.conf and your ports in bird.ctl
[20:21] <_kristof> (and configuring)
[20:22] <gunnar> ubuntu server guide?
[20:22] <Ziber> See, that doesn't solve my problem at all :)
[20:22] <_kristof> oh I just found the #ubuntu-server channel
[20:22] <gunnar> Ziber: I'm sorry to have failed you.
[20:22] <jnollette> hello, how do i install from a default package, i want to roll back
[20:22] <gunnar> Ziber: I tried at least
[20:22] <Ziber> Thought someone set something about the start script?
[20:23] <gunnar> ioria is responsible...
[20:24] <dzan> hi, is there a way to get the minimal image for the daily build?
[20:25] <hkrrsx> dzan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[20:27] <dzan> hkrrsx: yes I saw those but i'm looking for the bleeding edge version
[20:29] <hkrrsx> dzan: Sorry, I can find the mini images and the 15.04 daily builds but not a daily build of the mini image
[20:30] <Bashing-om> dzan: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/utopic/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso (??). Be aware it is a download .
[20:30] <OerHeks> dzan, take the daily server http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/20150411/ fits on cd
[20:34] <dzan> OerHeks: ok thx guess that's the way to go, just read there are no mini's made for the daily
[20:35] <OerHeks> Yes, also daily netboot AFAIK
[20:35] <BobbyJenkins> Hello, I currently have a 3 monitor desktop PC running Ubuntu 14.04. When I play any video online, it always displays it on the wrong monitor, and when I click on something on my other monitors while it is playing the video, it minimizes itself. Any way to resolve these issues?
[20:36] <Guest82262> @BobyJenkins, what does your GPU setup look like?
[20:37] <azizLIGHT> anyone use a weather indicator? which one do you use? i tried my-weather-indicator but it really doesnt work for me and crashes.
[20:38] <k1l> azizLIGHT: that works here like it should
[20:38] <BobbyJenkins> It is the AMD Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB
[20:39] <poz> hi guys, ummm what is that audio software which allows you to adjust things like the auto power off
[20:39] <azizLIGHT> k1l: when i click "Search Location" it crashes for me after a long freeze
[20:39] <poz> my speaks are flipping out. turning on and off non stop
[20:39] <poz> speakers*
[20:39] <azizLIGHT> k1l: not being able to pick the location, i get the wrong weather.
[20:39] <werbett> Alguém...
[20:39] <hkrrsx> poz: Are you sure it's a software-related issue?
[20:40] <werbett> que fale português
[20:40] <k1l> !pt | werbett
[20:40] <poz> hkrrsx, your still here! guess what! I made ubuntu stick to fix my plymouth issue and when I tryed to boot up, my computer worked!
[20:40] <hkrrsx> Magnificent!
[20:41] <BobbyJenkins> is the GPU not compatible with Ubuntu? It is a pretty powerful GPU...
[20:41] <azizLIGHT> k1l: is it because i have some kind of location api or something disabled in my ubuntu install. where do i adjust such a thing, if it exists
[20:41] <k1l> azizLIGHT: try to see in the logs what happens. and what ubuntu are you on exactly? what version of myweather indocator etc?
[20:41] <poz> but now I am having this speaker issue. and no, it might not be software, but I typically have this issue on fresh installs and it is fixed by turning off the auto power off off
[20:41] <azizLIGHT> k1l: im on 14.04 x64 and this is the latest 0.6.9 indicator
[20:42] <hkrrsx> poz: Perhaps you mean Power Management? To disable turning off of the monitor and hard drive?
[20:43] <poz> no, thats not it
[20:43] <hkrrsx> poz: http://linux.die.net/man/8/apmd ?
[20:44] <k1l> azizLIGHT: well, "it works for me". so without logs its hard to tell what is going wrong
[20:44] <poz> alsamixer, thats what i was looking for
[20:45] <sohrab> where can i find user configuration stuff? i have one user whose session doesn't work correctly. the guest user session works normally
[20:46] <poz> well it got rid of all of the crackleing, but now I dont hear anything
[20:46] <EriC^^> sohrab: ~/.config ~/.cache ~/.gconf
[20:46] <hkrrsx> poz: Try changing the sound card with F6 and playing with those settings ?
[20:47] <sohrab> EriC^^: thank you. is the guest user's config saved anywhere?
[20:48] <poz> thats what I am doing now
[20:48] <hkrrsx> poz: Good work
[20:48] <EriC^^> sohrab: probably in /tmp/guest-something i think
[20:48] <sohrab> is it a bad idea to reset a user's settings?
[20:49] <EriC^^> sohrab: depends on what he has configured
[20:49] <azizLIGHT> k1l: i think openweathermap is giving me wrong weather
[20:49] <azizLIGHT> k1l: like 10 degrees off...
[20:49] <EriC^^> sohrab: programs that autostart are in ~/.config/autostart
[20:49] <k1l> well, i use the yahoo one. just try and error what works best for your location
[20:49] <EriC^^> so you might want to copy whatever .desktop files are in there, and other stuff depending on the user
[20:50] <EriC^^> sohrab: ^
[20:51] <Guest45909> exit
[20:52] <azizLIGHT> k1l: when i switch to the yahoo service, the log just shows it looking up my location and just waiting and not doing anyhting, while the dialog box is stuck
[20:52] <azizLIGHT> wierd
[20:52] <azizLIGHT> and the url its looking up does give a response
[20:52] <s41l0r> hi, i accidently did a "mv *" now all files from that directory are gone. is there any chance to get them back?
[20:52] <azizLIGHT> in my browser
[20:52] <k1l> azizLIGHT: do you try automatic location? what if you just set the location?
[20:52] <azizLIGHT> im trying to set location. i havent tried auto
[20:52] <azizLIGHT> will try that now
[20:52] <MonkeyDust> s41l0r  where did you move them to?
[20:52] <poz> hkrrsx, I think it might be hardware this time. a problem with my motherboard... I plugged my speakers into the front jack and now it works
[20:53] <s41l0r> MonkeyDust: I dont know I did not set any target just "mv *"
[20:53] <azizLIGHT> auto on yahoo also off by 5 degrees
[20:53] <hkrrsx> poz: You're quickly becoming a master troubleshooter :)
[20:53] <azizLIGHT> will try wunderground now..
[20:54] <sohrab> EriC^^: k, thanks. ugh this is complicated
[20:54] <poz> hkrrsx, i am just afraid to reboot my computer now... it might not turn back on!
[20:54] <connewagon> Hi guys .. I set up a Ubuntu VM using VMWare on my desktop, and I'm running irssi on that
[20:54] <connewagon> I connected to this server comfortably, but when I try some other ones it doesn't work
[20:54] <azizLIGHT> k1l: it keeps putting me in Potwin, KS when i do auto
[20:55] <hkrrsx> poz: Understandable but it's gotta be rebooted eventually .... might as well find out now
[20:55] <hkrrsx> poz: You can always get back here from another computer
[20:55] <connewagon> it says "Connection refused", though it works from windows
[20:55] <connewagon> any ideas ?
[20:55] <azizLIGHT> k1l: is there some location thing i disabled in ubuntu...
[20:55] <k1l> azizLIGHT: dont know
[20:56] <poz> haha yeah, I will soon. I just have a few things to do on here first
[20:56] <gunnar> connewagon:  I'm using irssi too, no problems connecting to to other servers here.  Are you sure you type the address correctly?
[20:57] <connewagon> yeah .. Specifically i'm trying to connect to twitch and Quakenet
[20:57] <azizLIGHT> k1l: ok i got it lol
[20:57] <gunnar> hmmm...
[20:57] <azizLIGHT> thank god
[20:57] <connewagon> Quakenet is setup by default, so it should work when I run "/connect QuakeNet"
[20:58] <MonkeyDust> connewagon  if those channels are on freenode, you shoud better ask in #freenode
[20:58] <gunnar> try "/connect blacklotus.ca.us.quakenet.org"
[20:59] <gunnar> MonkeyDust: He can't connect to the servers...
[20:59] <MonkeyDust> gunnar  yes, i misread...
[20:59] <gunnar> MonkeyDust: Happens to the best of us :P
[21:00] <connewagon> 13:59 [blacklotus] -!- Irssi: Looking up blacklotus.ca.us.quakenet.org
[21:00] <connewagon> 13:59 [blacklotus] -!- Irssi: Connecting to blacklotus.ca.us.quakenet.org [208.64.121.85] port 6667
[21:00] <connewagon> 13:59 -!- Irssi: Unable to connect server blacklotus.ca.us.quakenet.org port 6667 [Connection refused]
[21:00] <gunnar> Connewagon: Weird...
[21:00] <gunnar> brb
[21:00] <connewagon> When i connect to ubuntu's irc, I got a message like "couldn't find hostname" or similar
[21:01] <connewagon> not sure if the other servers are kicking me out early
[21:01] <connewagon> because of some misconfiguration
[21:01] <poz> does anyone know the best temperature monitor for cpu and gpu? preferably with a gui? psensor works good, but i am wondering if there is one with a nice smooth curvy line like the sexy process monitor cpu usage one
[21:01] <gunnar> Well I just tried connecting to blacklotus.ca.us.quakenet.org, and all is well.
[21:02] <c^> Unlikely, it sounds like it's just bouncing your connections connewagon. Try connecting from another IP?
[21:02] <hkrrsx> connewagon: Try connecting to port 7070 ?
[21:02] <connewagon> hkrrsx: giving it a shot
[21:03] <OnkelTem> Hi! Would you recommend a reader for Linux with a click-to-translate feature?
[21:03] <gunnar> have to set your local hostname?
[21:03] <c^> It's either the endpoint bouncing your connections (unlikely), the route not completing (highly unlikely), a misconfiguration on your client not allowing connections outbound (likely) or some DNS-related issue.
[21:03] <connewagon> umm .. how do i specify the port in irssi when i do /connect or such ?
[21:04] <gunnar> connewagon: Hostname issues are generally cause by DNS server problems
[21:04] <gunnar> one moment
[21:04] <connewagon> I have set the hostname for the VM, but nothing at irssi level
[21:04] <c^> ./connect <IP> (+)<PORT>
[21:04] <OnkelTem> connewagon: use weechat (sorry for this offtopic)
[21:04] <hkrrsx> c^: +1
[21:04] <OnkelTem> connewagon: or /j irrsi
[21:04] <anothermoron> lol weechat
[21:04] <anothermoron> no thanks
[21:04] <jiohdi> OnkelTem, calibre
[21:05] <connewagon> 14:04 [blacklotus2] -!- Irssi: Looking up blacklotus.ca.us.quakenet.org
[21:05] <connewagon> 14:04 [blacklotus2] -!- Irssi: Reconnecting to blacklotus.ca.us.quakenet.org [208.64.121.85] port 6667 - use /RMRECONNS to abort
[21:05] <OnkelTem> anothermoron: this is a personal choice. But I switched to weechat after 5 years on irssi
[21:05] <connewagon> 14:04 [blacklotus2] -!- Irssi: Unable to connect server blacklotus.ca.us.quakenet.org port 6667 [Connection refused]
[21:05] <connewagon> oops .. wrong version .. but got same message for port 7070 too
[21:05] <OnkelTem> connewagon: please don't. Ask irrsi questions on their channel
[21:05] <c^> goto #irrsi
[21:05] <OnkelTem> jiohdi: thanks, gonna check it out
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[21:06] <connewagon> OnkelTem: Good point, I'll test this with weechat. If it works with that, I'll know its an irssi question
[21:06] <c^> hm
[21:06] <OnkelTem> connewagon: I didn't say this doesn't work in irssi. Irrsi is quite good
[21:06] <c^> try tunneling the connection through a proxy to check if it's just rejecting your IP
[21:07] <c^> Personally, I hate irssi
[21:07] <c^> ZNC is where it's at ;)
[21:07] <OnkelTem> weechat! :)
[21:07] <OnkelTem> weeeee
[21:07] <c^> Egh, not my cup of tea
[21:07] <c^> ZNC + HexChat
[21:07] <connewagon> OnkelTem: I'm quite used to irssi to change too. And weechat doesn't seem to work either for quakenet
[21:08] <connewagon> c^: Let me give that a shot
[21:08] <c^> Hang on.. weechat didn't work either
[21:08] <OnkelTem> c^: I don't know about them, so can't say really. Maybe if I try, I find it very nice
[21:08] <c^> Tried connecting to freenode from that same client?
[21:09] <connewagon> c^: Just tried connecting to chat.freenode.net, and it doesn't seem to work either
[21:10] <c^> DNS
[21:10] <c^> cough cough
[21:10] <c^> try ping chat.freenode.net in a console
[21:10] <c^> and ping google.com
[21:10] <gunnar> from the VM
[21:10] <OnkelTem> connewagon: don't like to be nerdy, but again #weechat can help :)
[21:10] <c^> OnkelTem > this is just a DNS issue
[21:10] <c^> No need to push the conversation into another off-topic channel
[21:11] <OnkelTem> ah, didn't read :)
[21:11] <OnkelTem> So, now to calibre
[21:11] <connewagon> ping works for fine
[21:11] <connewagon> for all the servers
[21:12] <c^> o.o
[21:12] <connewagon> quakenet, freenode, google, everything!
[21:12] <hkrrsx> connewagon: Have you been banned from that channel?
[21:12] <c^> wut
[21:12] <hkrrsx>  s/channel/server
[21:12] <c^> all of them hkrrsx?
[21:12] <connewagon> hkrrsx: i double i've been banned in ALL of them
[21:12] <c^> yeah, no
[21:12] <gunnar> connewagon: What abiut the dns settings in the VM, have you checked them? or are u just using NAT?
[21:12] <connewagon> i tried both bridged, and NAT
[21:12] <connewagon> and bridged was working last week, today that stopped working too
[21:13] <gunnar> unique..
[21:13] <c^> ._. indeed
[21:13] <connewagon> i wonder if i look like im using a proxy server or something
[21:13] <c^> It wouldn't stop you still
[21:13] <c^> Eh, this is a unique issue
[21:14] <c^> Need to head off, sorry I couldn't help more
[21:14] <c^> But yeah, looks like some kind of resolution issue
[21:14] <connewagon> c^: Sure!
[21:14] <connewagon> Yeah ..
[21:14] <c^> Try connecting with IPs instead of hostnames
[21:14] <c^> that'll eliminate any DNS issues
[21:15] <connewagon> ill give that a shot
[21:15] <gunnar> connewagon: http://forums.mirc.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1372&site_id=1#import
[21:15] <gunnar> Scroll down to connection refused and cechk if anything there is applicable to you.
[21:15] <connewagon> that seems to make sense
[21:15] <connewagon> maybe im connecting to an old ip
[21:16] <connewagon> looks promising
[21:16] <gunnar> connewagon: I hope it helps
[21:16] <OnkelTem> I'm mighty. I've downloaded THE BLACK LIBRARY.
[21:16] <connewagon> me too!
[21:17] <OnkelTem> hehe
[21:17] <connewagon> no :(
[21:17] <daftykins> please try and keep it to support only, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[21:17] <OnkelTem> sorry
[21:17] <connewagon> sorry!
[21:17] <hkrrsx> connewagon: You said the problem is on a guest virtual machine ..... does the host machine have this same problem ?
[21:18] <connewagon> it didn't last week .. I haven't tried this week
[21:18] <connewagon> Let me give it a shot
[21:18] <hkrrsx> Please
[21:18] <gunnar> hkrrsx: all yours, going back to Dilbert.
[21:18] <hkrrsx> gunnar: lol thanks for your help
[21:19] <gunnar> :P
[21:19] <connewagon> :D Thanks for the help gunnar, hkrrsx: I join #ubuntu-offtopic so we dont take over the channel!
[21:21] <hkrrsx> connewagon: It's a little too late for that but I'd say either /join #irssi or /join #weechat respectively
[21:21] <hkrrsx> :)
[21:21] <connewagon> Trying that too !
[21:21] <hkrrsx> Additionally, I do not believe your issue to be DNS related since the connection properly resolved blacklotus.ca.us.quakenet.org to 208.64.121.85
[21:22] <hkrrsx> I got the same IP when I did DNS resolution a couple of minutes ago
[21:22] <hkrrsx> I think this is either a client configuration issue or possibly a network-related issue since you're working from a virtual machine (?)
[21:24] <connewagon> Yeah .. it worked fine on the host machine, so its somewhere else before it even comes to irssi
[21:24] <mudtar> I'm having some trouble with wireless networking on my Lenovo ideapad Z710 (LENOVO_MT_20250). My wireless interface is an Intel Wireless 7260. While booting, I see the message "[   22.385290] ideapad_laptop: timeout in write_ec_cmd". (What is the name of the log/stream that this message is a part of, for future reference?) Then "Waiting for network configuration..." and finally "Booting system without full network configuration..." Up
[21:24] <mudtar> on logging in with Gnome 3, Gnome Network Manager yeilds "The system network services are not compatible with this verison." About five minutes later, connectivity resumes as normal and I am able to connect to my network. I am trying to sort out what's going on via dmesg, but I can't put all the pieces together myself.
[21:25] <connewagon> hkrrsx: I think I'm going to call it a day and figure this out later .. Thanks for the help everyone :) I'll post back if I figure something out
[21:25] <hkrrsx> connewagon: We'll be here :)
[21:25] <hkrrsx> Best of luck
[21:27] <connewagon> thanks! :)
[21:27] <gunnar> mudtar: http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/platform/x86/ideapad-laptop.c#L183
[21:27] <gunnar> maybe this can help.
[21:27] <gunnar> Seems to be related to ACPI
[21:28] <mudtar> gunnar, thanks for finding that. I'll take a look.
[21:29] <mudtar> For what it's worth, this was all working fine on a prior 14.04 installation. I then tried to install Debian, ran into some (at the time) insurmountable networking problems and installed this instance of Ubuntu again. Don't know what could be all that different.
[21:30] <OnkelTem> jiohdi: thank you! Calibre is exactly what I was looking for
[21:31] <grill> hey. is it possible to mount a directory contained within a device (which would prevent users from seeing other parts of the mounted device)
[21:31] <codepython777> I've a machine on which there is an executable that runs at startup (uwsgi). How do i find out who started the process? Its not in rc.local
[21:33] <mudtar> gunnar, I have a vague grasp of what ACPI is and how it might interface with this network interface issue. I'll continue reading about it. Might you be able to point me in the right direction about a place to start in perhaps finding the fail point of ACPI that triggered this timeout?
[21:33] <gunnar> mudtar: Sorry bud, I lack the knowledge.
[21:33] <mudtar> No prob. Thanks for your valuable input!
[21:34] <gunnar> mudtar: Anytime
[21:34] <jiohdi> OnkelTem, (^_^)
[21:35] <hkrrsx> codepython777: Try running " sudo grep -r uwsgi /etc/rc.* " and hopefully, you'll find that script
[21:35] <MoPac> Hello. Is there any way within a running Ubuntu session to check the status of my CMOS unit or battery?  I have suddently encountered a condition where my laptop's power is cut instantly when AC is disconnected (even under suspend), and a CMOS checksum error shows up on boot.
[21:35] <hkrrsx> codepython777: If it's being run at startup, it's most likely being run by root
[21:36] <MoPac> Come to think of it, I don't even know if an issue solely with the CMOS battery could cause the machine to be unable to continue on normal battery power without AC...
[21:38] <amazonian> Hey guys. Something happened when I tried to upgrade ubuntu. Couldn't boot. So I chose my last kernel and booted into it.
[21:38] <amazonian> How do I remove the newest kernel and try upgrading again?
[21:38] <hkrrsx> codepython777: Additionally, you could run " ps aux | grep uwsgi " and that'll give you plenty of details about the process if it's currently running
[21:38] <daftykins> MoPac: doesn't sound ubuntu related, don't think i've seen a CMOS battery go in a laptop in fact
[21:39] <daftykins> i would think it'd only fail to power on if the battery were faulty
[21:39] <MoPac> daftykins: I'm wondering if the OS has any utilities that could help diagnose
[21:39] <daftykins> no
[21:39] <gunnar> amazonian:  cd to /boot/ and delete all the files named after the newer kernel version.
[21:40] <amazonian> gunnar: thanks
[21:40] <gunnar> np
[21:40] <MoPac> Maybe something in the OS I could use to exclude the main battery or charging circuit as the culprit?
[21:40] <amazonian> gunnar: 3.13.0-49 is the newest version?
[21:40] <ZeloZelos> still trying to get a dell dimension 3000 to run ubuntu. it is having a display issue. it appears the driver is the culprit? can anyone confirm/advise? i am currently dl'n xubuntu, maybe xfce will work
[21:41] <daftykins> ZeloZelos: there have likely been a hundred different 3000 series models, we can't know the hardware spec :)
[21:41] <ZeloZelos> IF i was to track down a driver that works for it's card, how do i install it if i cannot see what i am doing?
[21:41] <gunnar> amazonian:  Only you know that.  A safe bet is to do uname -r and just keep the files on /boot/ that aren't named after the current kernel version you're running.
[21:41] <ZeloZelos> good point daftykins i dont even know however ..i should figure that out though huh ;)
[21:42] <daftykins> ZeloZelos: slow down. you think there's a graphics driver issue? what's the graphics hardware?
[21:42] <mudtar> gunnar, is it not best when uninstalling a prior kernel to do it through the package manager?
[21:42] <amazonian> gunnar: thanks
[21:42] <ZeloZelos> looking it up right now daftykins
[21:42] <daftykins> ZeloZelos: can you reach a TTY after booting? or have you been unable to install?
[21:43] <ZeloZelos> all i see is a blank screen, the numlock turns on and off and it appears to be running (hd light flashes sometimes)
[21:43] <Layl> heya, I'm trying to set up ubuntu on my existing windows box, but the dual boot guide seems woefully out of date, not at all reflecting the current installer
[21:43] <Layl> I'm hitting this screen and I've got no idea what to do from here http://i.imgur.com/930ErYI.jpg
[21:43] <gunnar> mudtar: Yes it's safer.
[21:43] <daftykins> ZeloZelos: hmm could be bad media, DVD or USB flash drive?
[21:43] <ZeloZelos> what?
[21:44] <daftykins> Layl: looks like you're trying to install to an intel fakeRAID set of disks
[21:44] <gunnar> mudtar: But I'm thinking since he upgraded the entire system, it's problematic to roll back that entire process, so it's a simpler solution to just manually removing the other kernel version.. I think..
[21:44] <ZeloZelos> it has xp, everything is running fine. did a install of ubuntu, edubuntu, kubuntu and the one with gnome, no display
[21:44] <Layl> daftykins, I have a RAID setup yea
[21:44] <daftykins> Layl: i would not continue there without a full backup :)
[21:44] <daftykins> here be dragons!
[21:45] <daftykins> ZeloZelos: tried booting with nomodeset?
[21:45] <Layl> I do not have any data that would be more than a minor annoyance if lost
[21:45] <daftykins> !raid
[21:45] <mudtar> gunnar, that makes sense. But it would only be the kernel package that he'd be uninstalling, yeah? As I understand, it's impossible to roll back a whole set up upgraded packages as one process.
[21:45] <daftykins> Layl: might be something of use there, i think you need to install something prior to running install.
[21:45] <ZeloZelos> daftykins, what is nomodeset?
[21:45] <daftykins> !nomodeset | ZeloZelos
[21:46] <EriC^^> mudtar: gunnar yeah he'd only be uninstalling the kernels
[21:46] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.something
[21:46] <ZeloZelos> thank you i will try it too, still looking up those parts
[21:46] <EriC^^> wasn't he asking about booting the old ones though or did i misread?
[21:46] <gunnar>  EriC^^:  Thanks for clarifying. :)
[21:47] <Layl> so, what do I do from here daftykins?
[21:47] <mudtar> EriC^^, he was asking about uninstalling a messed up kernel so that he could try to install again.
[21:47] <daftykins> ZeloZelos: i'd just boot to a working shell, run "lspci" and see the actual hardware first hand :) or boot XP and read it in device manager
[21:47] <gunnar> He already booted from the old one.
[21:47] <omosoj> hi all, i have a weird problem. one of the users' settings is screwed up and their session doesn't have the eclipse side bar, nor the top menu bar, (among other things).
[21:47] <daftykins> Layl: read the links
[21:47] <EriC^^> oh ok
[21:48] <gunnar> I was just worried about the update approach he chose, so I thought it would be best to just remove the messed up kernel from /boot/ and start fresh.
[21:48] <Layl> this is quite the annoyance, I was really hoping for a quick 20 minutes install
[21:48] <mudtar> What is the cleanest way to find a list of all installed kernels?
[21:48] <daftykins> Layl: not given your systems RAID config, that's what we call an exotic mess :)
[21:48] <bekks> mudtar: dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[21:49] <mudtar> Thanks, bekks.
[21:49] <Layl> gonna guess there's no easy how-to step by step guide for it
[21:51] <EriC^^> mudtar: dpkg -l | awk '/^ii/ $2 ~ /linux-image/ {print$2}' that's pretty clean
[21:51] <gunnar> I personally build my kernel from source and tailor it to my system, one can learn tons in a very short time by doing that.
[21:51] <EriC^^> ( or anal )
[21:51] <gunnar> lol
[21:51] <ZeloZelos> ok got it, its the intel 82865g graphics controller
[21:52] <mudtar> EriC^^, that is nice'n clean. I should really take the time to better figure out awk.
[21:52] <ZeloZelos> i wish i could just leave xp on it, but of course, its completely vulnerable now
[21:52] <gunnar> Yes awk is a gem.
[21:54] <mudtar> gunnar, what do you call the class of "things" that Linux/drivers/platform/x86/ideapad-laptop.c belongs to? Is this a kernel module?
[21:54] <ZeloZelos> i plan on giving it to someone, so i cannot do a lot of mods/tweaks that will require fixing or are less reliable, i wanted an out-of-box fix ;(
[21:55] <gunnar> mudtar:  Part of one yes,  this is the raw c source file for several modules.
[21:55] <gunnar> at least in the link I sent you.
[21:57] <ZeloZelos> the nomodeset looks promising, i will reinstall ubuntu again and try that out, thank you daftykins
[21:58] <daftykins> ZeloZelos: hang on, your install media boots fine then? no issues at that point?
[21:58] <ZeloZelos> nope
[21:58] <ZeloZelos> it all is perfect
[21:58] <Beast> Anyone remember a firewall front end that was available a few years ago, from an ppa repo that was very extreme to the point where a user could easily block internet connectivity if he didn't know what he was doing. Wasn't GUFW
[21:58] <daftykins> ZeloZelos: try installing with "updates from online" disabled, if you get me
[21:58] <daftykins> should be a tickbox / just by keeping it offline
[21:59] <Beast> It was firewalling for the extremely paranoid.
[21:59] <ZeloZelos> i did that, it actually is connected via usb-wireless card, so it is not available durring install (i take it out)
[21:59] <mudtar> gunnar, how does the structure of the code correspond to the structure of a module? For example, is each function in the file you linked me to a module? Or does the file itself compile into a single module? Or is it part of a module composed of the C source in its parent directory? Perhaps the question is misguided.
[22:00] <hkrrsx> Beast: http://alternativeto.net/software/gufw/?platform=linux
[22:00] <ZeloZelos> daftykins, can i use this option durring live mode?
[22:00] <gunnar> mudtar: it's probably best to tink of it as a large tree, with each defined function acting like a branch.  You don't have to use all the branches.
[22:00] <daftykins> ZeloZelos: yes, but it's only if the live session doesn't boot up to desktop properly
[22:01] <Beast> hkrrsx: thanks will have a looksy
[22:01] <daftykins> ZeloZelos: the existing install can have it added easy
[22:01] <gunnar> Well I'm off for some ZzzZZz's
[22:01] <hkrrsx> Beast: Might I also point your research towards Snort IDS (intrusion detection system)
[22:01] <gunnar> Good night all
[22:01] <hkrrsx> gunnar: Night
[22:01] <mudtar> Thanks for all your help, gunnar. Good night.
[22:02] <Beast> hkrrsx: ok
[22:02] <ZeloZelos> daftykins, i already removed it in frustration, and let it idle for like a week till i could get back at it
[22:02] <mudtar> I'm having some trouble with wireless networking on my Lenovo ideapad Z710 (LENOVO_MT_20250). My wireless interface is an Intel Wireless 7260. While booting, I see the message "[   22.385290] ideapad_laptop: timeout in write_ec_cmd". (What is the name of the log/stream that this message is a part of, for future reference?) Then "Waiting for network configuration..." and finally "Booting system without full network configuration..." Up
[22:02] <mudtar> on logging in with Gnome 3, Gnome Network Manager yeilds "The system network services are not compatible with this verison." About five minutes later, connectivity resumes as normal and I am able to connect to my network. I am trying to sort out what's going on via dmesg, but I can't put all the pieces together myself.
[22:02] <ZeloZelos> BAH! i will bb in a few mins, i have to restart for updates on this machine
[22:03] <daftykins> mudtar: "dmesg" in a terminal will show those boot messages
[22:05] <mudtar> Thanks, daftykins. I've been picking it apart but not finding much that points me in any particular direction toward figuring out what's actually going on. It seems to just "try again" by connecting about 5 minutes in after boot, and it works fine.
[22:06] <daftykins> mudtar: i've heard of intel 7xxx wireless issues but don't know what they're about, no experience with gnome either sadly. are there any BIOS updates for your machine from Lenovo that speak of wireless fixes?
[22:07] <Layl> Alright, so to alleviate my fakeraid woes, I am about to resize my partition through gparted and create a new one through it, am I about to make a grave mistake by doing this?
[22:07] <sohrab> hi all, python doesn't start for one user. any idea how to fix that?
[22:08] <EriC^^> sohrab: doesn't start?
[22:08] <hkrrsx> !details | sohrab
[22:08] <daftykins> Layl: yep, glad you came back as there's something else to try - are you booted into a live session right now?
[22:08] <skinux> What is the application that tells us where the most disk usage is at?
[22:09] <Layl> daftykins: I have booted into a live session yea
[22:09] <Bashing-om> skinux: du -h .
[22:09] <kroq-gar78> skinux: 'baobab' I thinkis the one
[22:09] <sohrab> EriC^^: i'm having trouble with a user. it doesn't have the sidebar, or window borders, or window menus. the guest user doesn't have any of these problems. i looked at the system monitor and saw that the user with problems doesn't have a python process running.
[22:09] <EriC^^> skinux: du -sh /* 2>/dev/null
[22:09] <daftykins> Layl: if you open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get install dmraid" then run the installer again, does the partitioner page change compared with your picture from earlier?
[22:09] <Layl> daftykins, that will take me a bit to do
[22:10] <mudtar> daftykins, there are, in fact, but it appears that they "correct Intel 3160-AC WLAN combo card SSID." not exactly sure what that means, but I have some ideas. Don't think it refers to my particular card. I was having a fine time with a different Ubuntu 14.04 install, but then I reinstalled and started having these problems.
[22:10] <Layl> what would have resizing in gparted have done?
[22:10] <EriC^^> sohrab: which process?
[22:10] <daftykins> Layl: i would have resized the Windows volume from inside Windows if i were you. run diskmgmt.msc
[22:10] <daftykins> mudtar: was your new install done with 14.04.2 media?
[22:11] <sohrab> EriC^^: i don't remember right now, but python3 or something
[22:11] <Layl> daftykins, I could still do this, but I do wonder what the effect of resizing from gparted would have been
[22:11] <mudtar> daftykins, it was done with a netinst disk. I guess that's called mini.iso in Ubuntuspeak.
[22:11] <sohrab> EriC^^: there is no python process at all for the user with problems. i remember always seeing one
[22:11] <mudtar> I don't believe they have incremental releases, do they?
[22:12] <EriC^^> sohrab: it's probably irrelevant
[22:12] <Layl> daftykins, dmraid is already installed
[22:13] <skinux> baobab works, however, there is another program I can't remember the name of. I prefer the other program because baobab is slow.
[22:13] <sohrab> EriC^^: i was screwing around with python before all this started. what else could it be?
[22:13] <daftykins> mudtar: ah yes, so 3.13 or 3.16 kernel? (uname -r)
[22:13] <Layl> daftykins, for additional information, this is what the screen in gparted looks like http://i.imgur.com/egVS1Sk.jpg
[22:14] <mudtar> daftykins, 3.13.0-49-generic
[22:14] <mudtar> but I believe I was using something equal or prior on the same machine just days ago.
[22:14] <mudtar> Not to say that a bug couldn't have arisen in a later version, of course.
[22:16] <EriC^^> sohrab: probably a .config issue or something
[22:16] <hkrrsx> skinux: http://alternativeto.net/software/baobab/?platform=linux
[22:16] <daftykins> mudtar: sounds good. yeah tough call that one, if you auto login i wonder if it behaves the same if you created another user account?
[22:16] <EriC^^> sohrab: can you get a terminal when you login?
[22:16] <EriC^^> with ctrl+alt+t
[22:17] <mudtar> daftykins, I don't auto login, if I understand ya correctly. I'm prompted for my password before I log in via Gnome 3.
[22:17] <mudtar> Thanks for your input.
[22:19] <sohrab> EriC^^: yes. i'm trying this out and will reboot. brb. -> http://askubuntu.com/questions/17381/unity-doesnt-load-no-launcher-no-dash-appears/76951#76951
[22:20] <daftykins> Layl: open a terminal and try running "dmraid -ay"
[22:20] <Layl> daftykins, I've already rebooted to windows now to resize it from there
[22:20] <EriC^^> sohrab: ok
[22:20] <daftykins> Layl: that's alright, make space for the entire Ubuntu install then pop back again :)
[22:20] <x-flash> yo.. is the piratebay down?
[22:20] <daftykins> x-flash: not appropriate here.
[22:21] <k1l_> x-flash: ask ##chat
[22:21] <Layl> daftykins: should I create a new partition for it or just leave it empty?
[22:21] <x-flash> not working in ubuntu at least... so is it ubuntu or is tpb down/ddos?
[22:21] <daftykins> Layl: just blank space in preparation
[22:22] <Layl> alright, doing that now
[22:22] <x-flash> maybe theres a lock in ubuntu to those kinds of web pages?
[22:23] <hkrrsx> !offtopic | x-flash
[22:27] <riqdiiz> $ubuntu
[22:28] <Layl> daftykins, alright I've done that
[22:29] <daftykins> Layl: the terminal "dmraid -ay" ?
[22:29] <Layl> that not yet, give me a moment to boot into the livecd again
[22:33] <cluelessperson> Hey guys, I need a way to get the complete list of domain names that have expired
[22:33] <cluelessperson> how do I do this quickly?
[22:34] <skinux> Is anyone by chance familiar with OpenCRX server?
[22:35] <daftykins> cluelessperson: that you own via a given registrar? that's not an Ubuntu support question
[22:35] <skinux> I installed it a few days ago to give it a try, but I couldn't access access it at all once starting it. So, I selected to stop the server and selected it's uninstall menu selection. However, none of the menu options seem to be doing anything and I can't find it via AppGrid nor using 'locate opencrx' command.
[22:36] <Layl> daftykins, it's saying it's already active
[22:36] <cluelessperson> daftykins, I have an unbuntu server.
[22:36] <daftykins> Layl: can you screenshot the installer partitioner window again?
[22:36] <cluelessperson> daftykins, I'd like to download a complete domain name list.
[22:36] <daftykins> cluelessperson: sorry, that's not something that can be done.
[22:37] <daftykins> and 100% is not on topic for this channel either way
[22:37] <cluelessperson> daftykins, Why not?  There are only 143 Million records or so
[22:37] <daftykins> are you purposefully timewasting here?
[22:38] <Layl> daftykins, just a moment, gnome running on the livecd is locking up making it a bit difficult
[22:39] <hkrrsx> skinux: How did you install it ?
[22:40] <kokut> Hello, anyone knows how to switch tabs on Guake with the keyboard?
[22:40] <viejotren> hello everyone
[22:40] <viejotren> I am trying to install pygame on ubuntu 14.10 but I have a dependence problem (python-numpy) it seems that package is not on 14.10 repos, do you know a way how to solve it?
[22:40] <hkrrsx> kokut: Check the Preferences under Keyboard Shortcuts, it'll tell you in there
[22:40] <daftykins> kokut: alt+number ?
[22:40] <hkrrsx> It's probably CTRL+Page Up/Down
[22:41] <kokut> hkrrsx: yea :) ty
[22:41] <hkrrsx> yw
[22:42] <skinux> hkrssx: Actually, I don't quite remember. I'm pretty sure I downloaded it without using a repository. However, I used Alacarte to figure out that the Uninstall menu link didn't have full path to the Uninstall.jar file, so that's why the uninstaller wasn't working.
[22:42] <Layl> daftykins really sorry for the delays, thanks a lot for helping, just having a bit of issues with freezes
[22:42] <guest-6R6H26> hhey
[22:43] <daftykins> Layl: hmm not a good sign, this from DVD or flash drive?
[22:43] <Layl> from DVD
[22:43] <hkrrsx> skinux: Have a look at this and if doesn't work, you'll likely need to contact OpenCRX support directly
[22:43] <hkrrsx> http://www.opencrx.org/opencrx/2.10/installerServer/installer_openCRX_server.pdf
[22:43] <daftykins> Layl: ah, invest in a flash drive :D the difference is like night and day
[22:43] <hkrrsx> skinux: Here's their support URL:  http://www.opencrx.org/support.htm
[22:43] <Layl> I was trying from a flash drive but it kernel panicked before reaching the installer
[22:44] <daftykins> Layl: could've been a corrupted download or bad copy
[22:44] <Layl> it was faster to burn to a dvd than to try and fix it
[22:45] <Layl> I assume the tool I was using to set up the usb just did something wrong
[22:45] <mjayk> possibly Layl should get in the habbit of checking iso hashs
[22:45] <Layl> would be really nice if browsers did that automatically
[22:45] <daftykins> depends what program you used, yeah
[22:45] <kokut> Anyone knows how to add tracks from the library to the playlist in cmus?
[22:46] <mjayk> Layl: I think if you torrent it some torrent programs will do that
[22:46] <Layl> oh yea I was using the torrent because it was adviced
[22:46] <Layl> but the exact same iso is running from the dvd fine
[22:47] <hkrrsx> kokut: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoAB5gOuoHA
[22:47] <mjayk> most give you the md5 in the info; yea sounds like you sorted it. Its just a "good" habbit to get into
[22:47] <daftykins> universal USB installer from pendrivelinux.com is a handy one for creating flash drives from Windows
[22:47] <mjayk> in my opinion :)
[22:47] <hkrrsx> That guy does a great job at explaining the entire CMUS terminal app
[22:48] <Layl> yea I should for bigger files, I just am used to almost never having problems with downloads
[22:48] <sohrab> is ther ea way to get a log of all the times i've restarted my computer in the last week?
[22:49] <daftykins> sohrab: i wouldn't count on it
[22:49] <riqdiiz> Can I install Ubuntu on a ide drive  using a different machine and move it later and work fine?
[22:50] <Layl> daftykins, I have a new option in the part right before that screen
[22:50] <sohrab> daftykins: 'last' worked
[22:50] <Layl> to install it along side the other partitions
[22:50] <mjayk> riqdiiz: problems can occur but it should work
[22:51] <daftykins> sohrab: sorry my mistake!
[22:51] <sohrab> daftykins: np
[22:52] <riqdiiz> Mjayk I'll let you know if it works. Thanks.
[22:52] <daftykins> Layl: mmm i'd still go to manual and see how the disk appears
[22:53] <Layl> daftykins, in manual it shows the same thing except now with "free space" added to the list
[22:53] <daftykins> Layl: so you still see free space twice huh?
[22:53] <kokut> hkrrsx: ty :)
[22:54] <Layl> daftykins, no I see free space once
[22:54] <Layl> there was no free space initially
[22:54] <hkrrsx> kokut: yw
[22:54] <daftykins> Layl: pic?
[22:54] <Layl> hold on, gotta take a pic from my phone
[22:55] <Layl> daftykins: sorry for the a bit blurry picture but should be readable enough http://i.imgur.com/rZSPcwe.jpg
[22:56] <daftykins> alt-print-screen and upload is always good too ;)
[22:56] <Layl> daftykins: for reference this was the original picture http://i.imgur.com/930ErYI.jpg
[22:56] <daftykins> Layl: yeah there is a second one, it's just out of view - there's a scroll bar there
[22:56] <Layl> can't alt-print-screen in an OS setup can I?
[22:57] <daftykins> sure can
[22:57] <Starthunder> So I can set the geometry of a gnome-terminal window with the --geometry option. Is there a way to basically say “maximize the window”?
[22:57] <Layl> daftykins, the part not visible because of the scroll bar is exactly the same as before except for the size
[22:57] <daftykins> hmm i don't know whether it's bad or not that the two disks are seen separately still
[22:57] <Layl> those aren't disks though
[22:58] <Layl> they're partitions
[22:58] <Layl> right?
[22:58] <daftykins> well they're volumes with partitions in
[22:58] <daftykins> semantics ;D
[22:58] <Layl> I know windows 8 installs 2 partitions by default, one for restore, one for the actual stuff
[22:58] <daftykins> well, maybe in non-EFI mode yes
[22:58] <Layl> my motherboard doesn't support EFI iirc
[22:59] <Layl> I recall recently checking in the bios for it
[22:59] <Layl> since I was trying out writing a kernel and I wanted to know if EFI was an option
[22:59] <daftykins> if you don't care about the data you could just try and install to the free space. i don't know what's going to happen though
[22:59] <daftykins> it's possible that desktop doesn't support installing to dmraid
[23:00] <Layl> could I just select the option "install alongside" then?
[23:00] <Layl> on the screen before
[23:00] <daftykins> you can try. pretty sure here be dragons
[23:00] <Layl> I've got a friend who basically says he just resized and it worked fine when he installed his favorite flavor of linux and he has fakeraid as well
[23:01] <Layl> so I think it should work
[23:01] <Layl> but yea, dragons
[23:01] <daftykins> are you using RAID-0 or 1?
[23:02] <Layl> RAID-0 iirc
[23:02] <Layl> the one that's supposed to make things faster
[23:02] <Layl> because I like to live on the dangerous end of life
[23:02] <daftykins> with two horrible mechanical disks? ugh.
[23:02] <Layl> I was slightly less informed back when I got this PC
[23:03] <Layl> I still considered C++ an okay language to work in back then
[23:05] <Starthunder> Can I log in over SSH and kick off a gnome-terminal as another user? (I have full `sudo` permission on the machine.)
[23:06] <mjayk> Starthunder: kill the process ?
[23:06] <zerowaitstate> Starthunder: yes, you can
[23:06] <Starthunder> Start, I mean. Sorry. XD
[23:07] <hkrrsx> Starthunder: 1.) ssh -X <IP_address>   then  2.) su <username> gnome-terminal
[23:07] <hkrrsx> Starthunder: Hopefully, that'll bring a gnome-terminal window to your screen due to X-forwarding
[23:07] <Starthunder> X forwarding?
[23:07] <hkrrsx> However, it'll be slow
[23:08] <Starthunder> No, I mean…I want the process and window to appear on the remote machine.
[23:08] <zerowaitstate> Starthunder: why do you want to kick off gnome terminal when ssh gives you a shell?
[23:08] <zerowaitstate> Starthunder: ah
[23:08] <hkrrsx> No.
[23:08] <zerowaitstate> hkrrsx: actually, he can but the X display has to be set manually I think
[23:08] <Starthunder> Uhh…to freak out someone who's using my computer and doesn't know what a command line is? XD
[23:09] <daftykins> Starthunder: *sigh*
[23:09] <hkrrsx> zerowaitstate: 10 out of 10 people are going to have no need for that though
[23:10] <Layl> I'll sure be happy once I've got this all set up and the first step in any build won't be "install mingw"
[23:10] <daftykins> you could've VM'd Linux too ;)
[23:11] <hkrrsx> Starthunder: If you want to properly mess with someone, learn and install i3 window manager .... no one (probably yourself included) will ever want to touch that machine again
[23:11] <daftykins> Layl: i think if i were you i'd have ditched RAID and used one disk per OS
[23:11] <hkrrsx> :)
[23:11] <Layl> yea but HyperV's a pain
[23:11] <Layl> it keeps re-enabling itself
[23:11] <daftykins> HyperV? no forget Microsoft VMing
[23:11] <Layl> trashing all over virtualbox
[23:11] <daftykins> virtualbox/vmware/anything but
[23:11] <Layl> yea, I use virtualbox, but hyperv keeps re-enabling itself and virtualbox can't run with that on
[23:12] <daftykins> i don't even know why you'd have two techs at once :P
[23:12] <Layl> daftykins, would it be possible to set up one disk per OS without completely trashing my windows install
[23:13] <Starthunder> I tried starting a shell as that user with `sudo -iu $username` and then doing `DISPLAY=:0 gnome-terminal ...`
[23:13] <Layl> daftykins, visual studio installs and enables hyperv, it's needed for some stuff
[23:13] <Layl> mainly widows 8 and windows phone apps
[23:13] <daftykins> Layl: not without a lot of work probably
[23:13] <daftykins> ah ok. i don't do dev so didn't know VS did that
[23:13] <daftykins> i'd be surprised if it can't be disabled
[23:14] <Layl> it can be disabled but any update re-enables it
[23:14] <Layl> and you need to restart to disable it so
[23:14] <Layl> it's quite annoyin
[23:14] <daftykins> ho-hum
[23:14] <Layl> I'm moving away from VS though now that I'm switching to rust as my primary language instead of C#/F#
[23:16] <zerowaitstate> Layl: rust and erlang are very similar
[23:16] <daftykins> off topic people
[23:16] <zerowaitstate> quite
[23:17] <Layl> now's the moment of truth, will it boot
[23:17] <daftykins> i read a bit more of the fakeRAID page and i'm not entirely convinced :)
[23:17] <Layl> I'm not either, next time I'll just get an SSD
[23:18] <Layl> well windows sure still starts
[23:18] <Layl> it doesn't give me the grub screen though
[23:18] <samthewildone> well well well... dns problems with domain
[23:19]  * samthewildone eats a snickers bar. 
[23:19] <daftykins> Layl: likely the device GRUB is installed to needs to be different
[23:19] <hkrrsx> !details | samthewildone
[23:19] <daftykins> i don't think 'install alongside' is clever enough to know which
[23:19] <samthewildone> opps! I though this was offtopic
[23:19] <samthewildone> hkrrsx, my bad
[23:19] <Layl> daftykins, seems so yea
[23:19] <hkrrsx> samthewildone: It's all good
[23:20] <Layl> is there a magic key that might bring up grub
[23:21] <daftykins> Layl: i'd go into live again, select manual partitioning and try again changing where GRUB is installed to
[23:21] <daftykins> i.e. not "/dev/sda"
[23:22] <Layl> I'll try that
[23:22] <Layl> at least we now know it doesn't break windows
[23:22] <Layl> which is quite a feat
[23:22] <daftykins> :D
[23:23] <Layl> daftykins: should I make it install over the restore partition windows uses?
[23:23] <Layl> or over something else
[23:24] <Layl> or perhaps I could fix it by changing the master boot record which I had to do before on my laptop
[23:24] <daftykins> depends what the options in the dropdown list are really
[23:25] <Layl> ah~ there's nothing quite like the 1:30AM boot problems
[23:29] <Layl> daftykins, according to my raid status screen I'm using RAID-1, in which case I think I can just disable raid and have 2 separate drives again without data loss
[23:29] <daftykins> hmm i think it'd still be awkward
[23:29] <Layl> I really thought I was using RAID0 but I doubt that screen is wrong
[23:29] <daftykins> i know 7 at least BSODs when you change from SATA mode RAID to normal
[23:30] <zerowaitstate> Layl: you are probably forgetting about the metadata created on the volume
[23:30] <siwica> As I am fairly new to haskell I am looking for an elegant way to count the occurences of numbers in a list of intergers. E.g. both [2,2,3,5,5,5] and [5,5,3,2,2,5] should become [2,1,3]
[23:30] <zerowaitstate> siwica: #haskell
[23:30] <siwica> ah, sorry :P
[23:31] <siwica> wrong buffer
[23:31] <Layl> daftykins, i'm back at the manual install screen, what should I be picking from the list for the boot loader?
[23:35] <daftykins> Layl: what are the choices?
[23:35] <wheresmypaaants> Hi all! I recently installed Windows 7 alongside my Ubuntu 14.10 (x64) install. Despite me crawling multiple internet forums, my keyboard and mouse freezes during the Windows 7 boot. Here is the bootup process and what happens: GRUB - Keyboard Responsive - Windows selected - Keyboard responsive - During initial boot, the keyboard & mouse shut off and do not come back on - Ubuntu install works fine with keyboards
[23:35] <daftykins> zerowaitstate: if you've any experience with installing ubuntu on an intel fakeRAID beside an existing Windows OS, feel free to take over :)
[23:35] <wheresmypaaants> Just not the W7
[23:35] <Layl> daftykins, a whole bunch of /dev/mapper/stuff and /dev/sda
[23:37] <jonne> wheresmypaaants, what happens if you plug them out and in again after windows has started?
[23:37] <wheresmypaaants> jonne: No lights or responsiveness
[23:37] <wheresmypaaants> (Still dead)
[23:37] <jonne> that's weird
[23:38] <wheresmypaaants> mhm
[23:38] <wheresmypaaants> At one point, the keyboard loaded, but not the mouse
[23:38] <Layl> daftykins, assuming I understand what is happening I should probably install to the one called "Volume01" and not the ones with "p0#" after them
[23:39] <Layl> does that sound reasonable
[23:39] <hkrrsx> brb, dinner time
[23:39] <daftykins> lets remind ourselves of the link
[23:40] <daftykins> !raid
[23:40] <daftykins> (last one)
[23:40] <Nokaji> as ubuntu keeps logs on every file downloaded from the net, does it also keep a total uploads and downloads in Gbytes per day/month?
[23:41] <daftykins> Layl: hmm wouldn't hurt to try, i'd probably be trying p01
[23:42] <wheresmypaaants> jonne: Any ideas?
[23:42] <Layl> p01's the recovery thing for windows so I don't think that's gonna be having any master boot records
[23:42] <jonne> nah, haven't run windows in ages
[23:42] <wheresmypaaants> :(
[23:42] <wheresmypaaants> Just wanna play GTAV PC :P
[23:42] <jonne> but i'm assuming it comes with usb drivers for a standard mouse
[23:42] <daftykins> Layl: ah i see what you mean now, reloaded the links as i'd closed them... yeah /dev/mapper/isw...Volume01
[23:42] <jonne> haha
[23:43] <Layl> daftykins, should I in this screen be creating a new partition for the ubuntu install or just select the empty space?
[23:43] <jonne> only thing windows is still good for
[23:43] <wheresmypaaants> jonne: Would you recommend  me using a mouse that hasn't been plugged in to that computer yet?
[23:43] <daftykins> Layl: create an ext4 one for / and then a swap one, yeah
[23:44] <jonne> if you have one lying around, yeah
[23:44] <wheresmypaaants> I've got multiple :P
[23:44] <Layl> how much space should I keep free for the swap one?
[23:44] <jonne> although i think the whole usb subsystem is not starting up for some reason
[23:44] <jonne> maybe it's a powersaving thing?
[23:44] <daftykins> Layl: how much system RAM?
[23:44] <Layl> 16Gb
[23:44] <jonne> tried mucking around with those settings in your BIOS?
[23:44] <wheresmypaaants> Well, no, it starts up for some time - During the initial W7 boot everything responds, but when the login screen pops up it all cuts out
[23:45] <wheresmypaaants> And yes I have
[23:45] <jonne> beats me, man
[23:45] <wheresmypaaants> (But my BIOS settings are rather limited...)
[23:45] <jonne> don't think it has to do with grub
[23:45] <Layl> would it be alright to create the swap first so I don't have to carefully calculate how much space I need to leave for it
[23:45] <wheresmypaaants> Neither do I
[23:45] <wheresmypaaants> I'll try the secondary mouse
[23:46] <daftykins> Layl: hmm well assuming you never sleep or hibernate, i'd say 4GB would be plenty. so just click +, then minus 4096 from it
[23:46] <daftykins> Layl: actually reading the guide page more... haha...
[23:47] <Layl> daftykins, I'm assuming the ext4 one has to be set to primary and not logical
[23:47] <daftykins> Layl: it seems to suggest creating them with gparted
[23:47] <daftykins> so maybe quit the installer and run gparted, then create them there
[23:47] <Layl> alrightey
[23:48] <Layl> I'll be so happy when I've got my new laptop and I'll be able to install ubuntu on it by just wiping the pre-installed windows
[23:49] <daftykins> and wrestling with EFI
[23:49] <pcnate> When I installed ubuntu 14 the other day, I chose to create the swap first. Just chose to create it at the end, then I used the rest of the space for /
[23:50] <daftykins> pcnate: yeah that's true, you can probably pick start and end positions
[23:50] <pcnate> Also, on that not. Is it still recommended to leave 7% unallocated on an SSD?
[23:50] <Layl> oh great, my keyboard stopped working on the machine
[23:50] <pcnate> *on that note
[23:51] <daftykins> pcnate: totally down to the given drive, some have spare area you never get to see - others expose the whole NAND
[23:51] <pcnate> I will assume this one does not have spare
[23:51] <Layl> daftykins, I could as well just reformat the existing ext4 and swap partitions
[23:52] <Layl> or would it be better to just re-create them
[23:54] <daftykins> Layl: mmm if they appear ok, that's fine - you just need to set the installer to make use of them
[23:54] <Layl> the swap's 16gb so I guess I'll get to enjoy hibernate
[23:55] <daftykins> if it works :P
[23:55] <Layl> what could possibly go wrong
[23:57] <Layl> daftykins: just a quick sanity check this is what it looks like right now http://i.imgur.com/aFYkzsZ.jpg
[23:59] <velho> Evening
[23:59] <Layl> after this works I am getting my 5 hours of sleep