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ahoneybunKernel 4.0 released today!00:18
frecelahoneybun: isn't it an arbitrary number at this point?03:17
DalekSecPretty much.04:17
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soeegood morning06:43
lordievaderGood morning.07:03
sitterRiddell: ping08:20
soeewhat was the command to check gpu ?08:21
lordievadersoee: How check? Like what you have?08:22
soeelordievader: yes08:22
lordievadersoee: lspci -k|grep -A2 VGA08:23
lordievaderOr read the list lshw outputs.08:23
soeelordievader: nice, thank you08:24
soeeguys propriety drivers for nvidai cards work fine for you in Vivid ?08:27
sitterdoes anyone want to do very simple packaging changes to make CI happy? ^^08:34
sitterRiddell: where do I pack the rfkill udev rule? data package? seems a bit meh-sy08:35
sitterRiddell: why is http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/kde-std/sddm.git/tree/debian/patches/kubuntu_dbus-config-rename.diff?h=kubuntu_unstable not upstreamed?08:42
Riddellsitter: I managed to convince him to put it in upstream08:49
Riddellsitter: so hopefully it's already in there08:49
sitterRiddell: the rfkill is there, I am asking where we should put it packagingwise08:51
* ovidiu-florin is turning 24 today09:10
Riddella young spring chicken :)09:11
=== Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: ¡Happy Birthday ovidiu! | Kubuntu - 10 years of friendlyness | KF5 5.9 Status: http://goo.gl/gI3xd0 | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | Crash tracker : http://goo.gl/Cdynad | 20 bugs to fix http://goo.gl/Chh7uh
ovidiu-florinThank you Riddell09:11
* Riddell slides an irn-bru down the table to ovidiu-florin 09:13
* ovidiu-florin googles irn-bru09:13
ovidiu-florinthank you :D09:13
lordievaderovidiu-florin: Congratulations!09:15
ovidiu-florinI'll be drinking http://www.dragosasaftei.ro/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/fotografie-de-produs-cu-amintire-silva-dark-7.jpg and http://www.letspartystore.ro/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/bere_nenea_iancu_lps.jpg and http://blufftonbeerfest.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/hobgoblin.jpg this evening09:17
soeeovidiu-florin: all the best and next 24 years with kubutnu :D09:17
ovidiu-florinand also: http://www.carrefour-online.ro/-/media/Images/Products/1/2/0/N1_5942016300611.png?w=460&h=460&q=90&bc=white09:18
ovidiu-florinThank you lordievader and soee09:19
RiddellHob Goblin++09:20
Riddelljust be careful of that Țuică ovidiu-florin!09:21
ovidiu-florinoh09:21
ovidiu-florinthat will just get things started09:21
ovidiu-florinbeer is just for warmup09:22
Riddelloh do be careful, we need our website master alive!09:23
ovidiu-florinRiddell: don't worry09:28
ovidiu-florinthis is something usual in Romania09:29
sitterkubotu: order birthday package for ovidiu-florin09:36
* kubotu is running to the corner shop to get a birthday present.09:36
* kubotu slides a birthday cake and a present down the bar to ovidiu-florin and gives everyone a nice frosty mug of beer.09:36
kubotuHappy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday ovidiu-florin, happy birthday to you!!!! - Wooooho!09:36
kubotuHappy Birthday ovidiu-florin :D09:36
kubotuTo your health!09:36
* ovidiu-florin opens the present...09:37
ovidiu-florinOhhh09:38
ovidiu-florinI love it '09:38
ovidiu-florinthank you09:38
Riddellsitter: no alcohol before midday!09:44
Riddelleven on ovidiu-florin's birthday09:44
yofelovidiu-florin: happy birthday!09:49
sitterRiddell: blame kubotu. he's bad influence09:53
sitterRiddell: you sillt haven't answered where to put the udev rule packagingwise :P10:24
Riddellsitter: doesn't cmake put it somewhere sane?10:25
sitterRiddell: which package10:31
Riddellsitter: libkf5bluezqt5 ?10:35
sitterRiddell: but then the lib becomes non-multiarch and contains un-soversioned data files10:36
sitterformer I don't care so much about, but latter sucks quite a bit10:37
Riddellsitter: so add a libkf5bluezqt-data ?10:42
sitterthat was my question :P10:42
sittermhhh10:51
sitterthen again10:51
sittergod I hate packaging10:51
Riddellsitter: shall we just switch to arch linux and stop bothering with packaging?10:55
Riddellor an installer for that matter10:55
sitterupstream seems to be fine with arch10:56
Riddellupstream is a bunch of nutters who don't know the first thing about usable software10:57
Riddelloh wait, did I say that out loud :)10:57
shadeslayerheh10:58
shadeslayerGuys it's not even Friday yet :p10:59
Riddellit was friday only the other day11:07
Riddellshadeslayer: what country are you in today?11:07
shadeslayerStill in London :)11:08
shadeslayerIts been sunny all weel11:08
shadeslayer*week11:08
Riddellrare11:10
shadeslayer:)11:12
shadeslayerI went golfing on the weekend and now everything is sore11:13
shadeslayerGolf and badminton xD11:13
Riddellis golf a tiring sport? it's just walking around a field no?11:13
shadeslayerI drove a 100 balls on the driving range11:14
Riddellsoee: you may be interested in bug https://launchpad.net/bugs/144336411:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1443364 in ubuntu-drivers-common (Ubuntu) "gpu-manager systemd unit doesn't always work as expected" [Critical,Triaged]11:14
Riddellshadeslayer: simple leaver mechanics, hardly hard work for you I'm sure11:15
shadeslayerRiddell: still doesn't mean you dont get sore11:15
soeeRiddell: this is the one Alverto posted in comment to my bug report ?11:18
soee*Alberto11:18
Riddellsoee: dunno could be11:20
BluesKajHiyas all11:33
BluesKajsome panel widgets still don't work , like icons-only task manager, and it's been so for a while now11:39
BluesKajok , now I see how it's setup, riight click in the panel and choose alternatives and a gui pops up with a choice that actually works 11:44
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shadeslayerRiddell: https://i.imgur.com/19Yf1Vb.jpg11:53
shadeslayerRiddell: found at a bus stop last night11:53
Riddellah, if only it were true :)11:54
shadeslayer;)11:59
shadeslayerd_ed: ^^12:00
ScottKRiddell: libxext released.12:01
soeehow to make vivid work really smooth on my pc ? kill baloo_file process12:06
BluesKajsoee, and akonadi12:11
micmordRiddell: bug 144343012:51
ubottubug 1443430 in plasma-desktop (Ubuntu) "plasma-desktop & plasma-desktop-data version" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144343012:51
sitterhm14:41
shadeslayermh14:41
sitterRiddell, shadeslayer: is there a reason the patch-parser is running on ~jr rather than the shared account on qa.kubuntu?14:41
shadeslayeridk14:42
shadeslayerPossibly jr set it up14:42
sittershadeslayer: btw, I am dropping author/date fallback to git for now. seeing as the thing should support both git and bzr that needs abstractoring14:43
shadeslayerokie dokie14:43
sitterwe really need to do something about the amount of silly git clones we have all over the place15:33
* shadeslayer gives sitter a flamethrower15:40
shadeslayersitter: btw how do you want to solve the issue of having the | seperator in build deps15:40
sittershadeslayer: hm?15:55
shadeslayersitter: Build-Depends: foo | bar15:55
shadeslayerwe only parse foo at the moment15:55
sittershadeslayer: as I said last time you asked the exact same question... Relationship class needs to be fixed to account for this16:17
shadeslayeryeah but how /o\16:17
shadeslayerlike16:17
shadeslayeryou need some sort of priority ordering16:18
sittershadeslayer: Array is an ordered data structures16:19
sitter-s16:19
shadeslayerI don't have a clue what you're suggesting here, since if you have 2 of those then there are like 4 combinations of the build deps16:21
shadeslayerany one of which could be valid16:21
sittershadeslayer: are you asking me how to implement a dependency resolver or what's the question here?16:25
shadeslayeryes, implementing a dep resolver16:26
shadeslayerwouldn't that have to go into the control parser16:26
shadeslayerhm, maybe not, thinking about it is giving me a headache16:27
shadeslayerok, wtf dpkg-buildpackage16:27
shadeslayerbuild source with sbuild, works, build source with custom tooling, broken16:28
sittershadeslayer: how many *parsers* do you know that implement a dependency resolver? Oo16:28
shadeslayersitter: ok, so resolver goes ontop of control parser16:29
shadeslayerhm16:29
shadeslayerfun16:29
sitteranyway ... either use whatever script sbuild/pbuilder use16:29
sitteror implement a simplified version of the pbuilder one... which IIRC basically installs a fake package via dpkg with the build-depends of your source used as the depends of the fake and then runs apt-get -f install to have apt resolve the now broken dependency tree16:30
sitterthere's possibly less cumbersome approaches though16:30
sitteri.e I would really just use the existing script from pbuilder TBH16:30
sitteroh gosh16:31
sittersuch late16:31
shadeslayerit's only 6:3016:32
sitterRiddell: if you get a chance maybe send me a mail with what ruby version the patch-parser in your home is run against16:32
sitterI fear I wrote somewhat too newish code 16:32
shadeslayerhttp://squirrel-lang.org/16:32
shadeslayerquite nutty that one16:32
Sick_Rimmitshadeslayer: What has a Hazel nut in every Class ;-)16:38
shadeslayer:D16:43
darthanubisdoes anyone else notice plasmashell start to use 20-35% memory?16:50
yofel% doesn't tell much, here it usually sits around at ~380MiB17:04
shadeslayerRiddell: ping, can you send that gnome patch upstream to Debian too17:07
shadeslayeryofel: do you know how to figure out what env var comes from where17:52
yofelno17:52
shadeslayerI have a random one in my PATH17:52
shadeslayerno clue where it comes from17:52
ahoneybunhappy birthday ovidiu-florin!18:30
Riddellshadeslayer: which gnome patch?18:42
Riddellsoee: "15:16 < pitti> tseliot: the u-d-c fix was just accepted by the RT team FYI18:42
Riddellthat may fix your issue?18:42
soeeRiddell: will test, but wirst i need to take shower18:43
soeeRiddell: it is fix in ubuntu-drivers-common ?18:48
Riddellsgclark: so what do you think about uploading kf5.9?18:56
sgclarkRiddell: to archive?19:06
Riddellsgclark: yeah, it seemed to build smooth enough, have you heard of any problems?19:06
sgclarkRiddell: I have not heard any no. I personally have not yet tested it.19:07
sgclarklet me do that first.. here in a min19:07
Riddellthanks, I'm testing too19:07
RiddellI think if it's all good I'll run the script and upload19:08
RiddellI'll also add https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123355/ to fix the kf5people translations19:10
sgclarkRiddell: ok thank you19:10
soee:/19:24
soeeUpdate installed with propriety  driver  and system broken 19:25
soeereinstaling system :/19:46
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Riddell21:17 < wxl> Riddell: there is some reason to believe that bug 1441843 affects kubuntu, too? sgclark and Kamilion had kind of suggested as such.20:24
ubottubug 1441843 in Ubuntu CD Images "X server fails to start on post-final Beta Lubuntu Vivid desktop images in virtual machines" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144184320:24
Riddellanyone tested lately?20:24
sgclarknot lately, I just remember it20:24
mparilloI installed to a VMware Player VM, and had no problem with Beta 2. Want me to re-test with a daily?20:33
valoriewth, apport just crashed again while I was trying to report a bug on update-manager-kde20:50
valoriecore dump!20:50
valoriehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/144365920:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1443659 in apport (Ubuntu) "Apport crashes when I try to report a bug on update-manager-kde" [Undecided,New]20:57
soeethis nvidia-prime stuff is a big fail so far :/21:10
Riddellmparillo: that would be useful21:12
sgclarkthough I recall ours to be a virtualbox issue21:14
valorieomg, why is launchpad so opaque21:17
valorieI just want to file a freaking bug21:17
sgclarklol21:19
sgclarkyeah it is not user friendly in filing bugs21:19
valorieI'll ask a question instead, since apport crashes21:19
valoriedamn21:19
shadeslayerRiddell: nvm21:20
yofelvalorie: from what I see, the kde UI crashes, so use "DISPLAY= apport-cli /var/crash/<apport_crashfile>"21:22
valorieyofel: use that where?21:24
yofelkonsole21:24
yofelthough I can't know the exact filename you need21:24
valoriein another attempt to file the bug, you mean?21:24
yofelwell, that'll omit the KDE UI, so you should be able to use apport fine21:25
valorieah21:25
* Riddell uploading kde frameworks 5.921:25
valorieI "asked" https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/26513821:25
valorieyofel: 21:26
valorie$ DISPLAY= apport-cli /var/crash/<apport_crashfile>21:26
valoriebash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'21:26
yofelwell, that was an example as I didn't know what you wanted to do. You probably want "DISPLAY= apport-cli update-manager-kde"21:26
valorieok, trying that21:27
valorieoooo, seems to be working21:27
valorieso is there a bug I should file on bko, and if so, on what?21:28
valorieweeeee, that seems to be working21:29
valoriethank you yofel21:29
yofelsure21:30
yofelgave me a rare chance to wear my ubuntu bugsquad hat for a change ^^21:30
valorie:-)21:33
valoriehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/144366621:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1443666 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Text flashes in update-manager-kde before updating" [Undecided,New]21:34
valorieso back to the real issue: what is the KDE bug keeping me from using apport to file that bug properly?21:35
yofellooks like a bug in apport-kde to me21:37
valoriewell, I've filed two bugs on apport21:39
valorieand I'm not the only one apport is crashing on21:39
valorieso is apport-kde our application, or KDE's?21:39
yofelour21:39
valorieas a bugsquadder, you can move that to our plate, right?21:40
valorieor do I need to file another bug?21:40
valorieI'm not convinced it isn't apport itself21:40
yofelput on our RC list21:41
valoriehowever, coffee ingested, house to clean, away from keyboard now21:42
yofelwell, the issue is a TypeError in our UI refresh code. Not that I fully get what that code does...21:44
mparilloRiddell: I am downloading the daily iso now to test 1441843.21:45
mparilloNobody here running zsync for Windows are they?21:47
* genii 's ears perk up at the mention of his favourite caffeinated beverage22:00
Riddellirn bru?22:02
yofelcoffee ;P22:02
geniimmmm coffee22:03
Riddellnow available in space http://www.networkworld.com/article/2908031/security0/the-international-space-station-finally-gets-an-espresso-machine.html22:03
geniiHeh, yes, I saw that earlier today on the aborted SpaceX flight feed22:04
mparilloLogging off to test bug 1441843 with today's ISO22:06
ubottubug 1441843 in Ubuntu CD Images "X server fails to start on post-final Beta Lubuntu Vivid desktop images in virtual machines" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144184322:06
shadeslayerDLNA, Y U NO WORK22:08
ovidiu-florinRiddell: you can change the topic now :P22:52
* ovidiu-florin wonders if it's still his birthday in some countries22:52
shadeslayerovidiu-florin: you can change the topic too22:55
shadeslayerit's not locked22:55
=== shadeslayer changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - 10 years of friendlyness | KF5 5.9 Status: http://goo.gl/gI3xd0 | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | Crash tracker : http://goo.gl/Cdynad | 20 bugs to fix http://goo.gl/Chh7uh
mparillohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cdimage/+bug/1441843 does not seem to apply to Kubuntu (at least on VMware Player 6.0.5 build-2443746) I just used today's ISO.23:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1441843 in Ubuntu CD Images "X server fails to start on post-final Beta Lubuntu Vivid desktop images in virtual machines" [High,Confirmed]23:52

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