[00:18] <ahoneybun> Kernel 4.0 released today!
[03:17] <frecel> ahoneybun: isn't it an arbitrary number at this point?
[04:17] <DalekSec> Pretty much.
[06:43] <soee> good morning
[07:03] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:20] <sitter> Riddell: ping
[08:21] <soee> what was the command to check gpu ?
[08:22] <lordievader> soee: How check? Like what you have?
[08:22] <soee> lordievader: yes
[08:23] <lordievader> soee: lspci -k|grep -A2 VGA
[08:23] <lordievader> Or read the list lshw outputs.
[08:24] <soee> lordievader: nice, thank you
[08:27] <soee> guys propriety drivers for nvidai cards work fine for you in Vivid ?
[08:34] <sitter> does anyone want to do very simple packaging changes to make CI happy? ^^
[08:35] <sitter> Riddell: where do I pack the rfkill udev rule? data package? seems a bit meh-sy
[08:42] <sitter> Riddell: why is http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/kde-std/sddm.git/tree/debian/patches/kubuntu_dbus-config-rename.diff?h=kubuntu_unstable not upstreamed?
[08:49] <Riddell> sitter: I managed to convince him to put it in upstream
[08:49] <Riddell> sitter: so hopefully it's already in there
[08:51] <sitter> Riddell: the rfkill is there, I am asking where we should put it packagingwise
[09:10]  * ovidiu-florin is turning 24 today
[09:11] <Riddell> a young spring chicken :)
[09:11] <ovidiu-florin> Thank you Riddell
[09:13]  * Riddell slides an irn-bru down the table to ovidiu-florin 
[09:13]  * ovidiu-florin googles irn-bru
[09:13] <ovidiu-florin> thank you :D
[09:15] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Congratulations!
[09:17] <ovidiu-florin> I'll be drinking http://www.dragosasaftei.ro/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/fotografie-de-produs-cu-amintire-silva-dark-7.jpg and http://www.letspartystore.ro/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/bere_nenea_iancu_lps.jpg and http://blufftonbeerfest.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/hobgoblin.jpg this evening
[09:17] <soee> ovidiu-florin: all the best and next 24 years with kubutnu :D
[09:18] <ovidiu-florin> and also: http://www.carrefour-online.ro/-/media/Images/Products/1/2/0/N1_5942016300611.png?w=460&h=460&q=90&bc=white
[09:19] <ovidiu-florin> Thank you lordievader and soee
[09:20] <Riddell> Hob Goblin++
[09:21] <Riddell> just be careful of that Țuică ovidiu-florin!
[09:21] <ovidiu-florin> oh
[09:21] <ovidiu-florin> that will just get things started
[09:22] <ovidiu-florin> beer is just for warmup
[09:23] <Riddell> oh do be careful, we need our website master alive!
[09:28] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: don't worry
[09:29] <ovidiu-florin> this is something usual in Romania
[09:36] <sitter> kubotu: order birthday package for ovidiu-florin
[09:36]  * kubotu is running to the corner shop to get a birthday present.
[09:36]  * kubotu slides a birthday cake and a present down the bar to ovidiu-florin and gives everyone a nice frosty mug of beer.
[09:36] <kubotu> Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday ovidiu-florin, happy birthday to you!!!! - Wooooho!
[09:36] <kubotu> Happy Birthday ovidiu-florin :D
[09:36] <kubotu> To your health!
[09:37]  * ovidiu-florin opens the present...
[09:38] <ovidiu-florin> Ohhh
[09:38] <ovidiu-florin> I love it '
[09:38] <ovidiu-florin> thank you
[09:44] <Riddell> sitter: no alcohol before midday!
[09:44] <Riddell> even on ovidiu-florin's birthday
[09:49] <yofel> ovidiu-florin: happy birthday!
[09:53] <sitter> Riddell: blame kubotu. he's bad influence
[10:24] <sitter> Riddell: you sillt haven't answered where to put the udev rule packagingwise :P
[10:25] <Riddell> sitter: doesn't cmake put it somewhere sane?
[10:31] <sitter> Riddell: which package
[10:35] <Riddell> sitter: libkf5bluezqt5 ?
[10:36] <sitter> Riddell: but then the lib becomes non-multiarch and contains un-soversioned data files
[10:37] <sitter> former I don't care so much about, but latter sucks quite a bit
[10:42] <Riddell> sitter: so add a libkf5bluezqt-data ?
[10:42] <sitter> that was my question :P
[10:51] <sitter> mhhh
[10:51] <sitter> then again
[10:51] <sitter> god I hate packaging
[10:55] <Riddell> sitter: shall we just switch to arch linux and stop bothering with packaging?
[10:55] <Riddell> or an installer for that matter
[10:56] <sitter> upstream seems to be fine with arch
[10:57] <Riddell> upstream is a bunch of nutters who don't know the first thing about usable software
[10:57] <Riddell> oh wait, did I say that out loud :)
[10:58] <shadeslayer> heh
[10:59] <shadeslayer> Guys it's not even Friday yet :p
[11:07] <Riddell> it was friday only the other day
[11:07] <Riddell> shadeslayer: what country are you in today?
[11:08] <shadeslayer> Still in London :)
[11:08] <shadeslayer> Its been sunny all weel
[11:08] <shadeslayer> *week
[11:10] <Riddell> rare
[11:12] <shadeslayer> :)
[11:13] <shadeslayer> I went golfing on the weekend and now everything is sore
[11:13] <shadeslayer> Golf and badminton xD
[11:13] <Riddell> is golf a tiring sport? it's just walking around a field no?
[11:14] <shadeslayer> I drove a 100 balls on the driving range
[11:14] <Riddell> soee: you may be interested in bug https://launchpad.net/bugs/1443364
[11:15] <Riddell> shadeslayer: simple leaver mechanics, hardly hard work for you I'm sure
[11:15] <shadeslayer> Riddell: still doesn't mean you dont get sore
[11:18] <soee> Riddell: this is the one Alverto posted in comment to my bug report ?
[11:18] <soee> *Alberto
[11:20] <Riddell> soee: dunno could be
[11:33] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:39] <BluesKaj> some panel widgets still don't work , like icons-only task manager, and it's been so for a while now
[11:44] <BluesKaj> ok , now I see how it's setup, riight click in the panel and choose alternatives and a gui pops up with a choice that actually works 
[11:53] <shadeslayer> Riddell: https://i.imgur.com/19Yf1Vb.jpg
[11:53] <shadeslayer> Riddell: found at a bus stop last night
[11:54] <Riddell> ah, if only it were true :)
[11:59] <shadeslayer> ;)
[12:00] <shadeslayer> d_ed: ^^
[12:01] <ScottK> Riddell: libxext released.
[12:06] <soee> how to make vivid work really smooth on my pc ? kill baloo_file process
[12:11] <BluesKaj> soee, and akonadi
[12:51] <micmord> Riddell: bug 1443430
[14:41] <sitter> hm
[14:41] <shadeslayer> mh
[14:41] <sitter> Riddell, shadeslayer: is there a reason the patch-parser is running on ~jr rather than the shared account on qa.kubuntu?
[14:42] <shadeslayer> idk
[14:42] <shadeslayer> Possibly jr set it up
[14:43] <sitter> shadeslayer: btw, I am dropping author/date fallback to git for now. seeing as the thing should support both git and bzr that needs abstractoring
[14:43] <shadeslayer> okie dokie
[15:33] <sitter> we really need to do something about the amount of silly git clones we have all over the place
[15:40]  * shadeslayer gives sitter a flamethrower
[15:40] <shadeslayer> sitter: btw how do you want to solve the issue of having the | seperator in build deps
[15:55] <sitter> shadeslayer: hm?
[15:55] <shadeslayer> sitter: Build-Depends: foo | bar
[15:55] <shadeslayer> we only parse foo at the moment
[16:17] <sitter> shadeslayer: as I said last time you asked the exact same question... Relationship class needs to be fixed to account for this
[16:17] <shadeslayer> yeah but how /o\
[16:17] <shadeslayer> like
[16:18] <shadeslayer> you need some sort of priority ordering
[16:19] <sitter> shadeslayer: Array is an ordered data structures
[16:19] <sitter> -s
[16:21] <shadeslayer> I don't have a clue what you're suggesting here, since if you have 2 of those then there are like 4 combinations of the build deps
[16:21] <shadeslayer> any one of which could be valid
[16:25] <sitter> shadeslayer: are you asking me how to implement a dependency resolver or what's the question here?
[16:26] <shadeslayer> yes, implementing a dep resolver
[16:26] <shadeslayer> wouldn't that have to go into the control parser
[16:27] <shadeslayer> hm, maybe not, thinking about it is giving me a headache
[16:27] <shadeslayer> ok, wtf dpkg-buildpackage
[16:28] <shadeslayer> build source with sbuild, works, build source with custom tooling, broken
[16:28] <sitter> shadeslayer: how many *parsers* do you know that implement a dependency resolver? Oo
[16:29] <shadeslayer> sitter: ok, so resolver goes ontop of control parser
[16:29] <shadeslayer> hm
[16:29] <shadeslayer> fun
[16:29] <sitter> anyway ... either use whatever script sbuild/pbuilder use
[16:30] <sitter> or implement a simplified version of the pbuilder one... which IIRC basically installs a fake package via dpkg with the build-depends of your source used as the depends of the fake and then runs apt-get -f install to have apt resolve the now broken dependency tree
[16:30] <sitter> there's possibly less cumbersome approaches though
[16:30] <sitter> i.e I would really just use the existing script from pbuilder TBH
[16:31] <sitter> oh gosh
[16:31] <sitter> such late
[16:32] <shadeslayer> it's only 6:30
[16:32] <sitter> Riddell: if you get a chance maybe send me a mail with what ruby version the patch-parser in your home is run against
[16:32] <sitter> I fear I wrote somewhat too newish code 
[16:32] <shadeslayer> http://squirrel-lang.org/
[16:32] <shadeslayer> quite nutty that one
[16:38] <Sick_Rimmit> shadeslayer: What has a Hazel nut in every Class ;-)
[16:43] <shadeslayer> :D
[16:50] <darthanubis> does anyone else notice plasmashell start to use 20-35% memory?
[17:04] <yofel> % doesn't tell much, here it usually sits around at ~380MiB
[17:07] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ping, can you send that gnome patch upstream to Debian too
[17:52] <shadeslayer> yofel: do you know how to figure out what env var comes from where
[17:52] <yofel> no
[17:52] <shadeslayer> I have a random one in my PATH
[17:52] <shadeslayer> no clue where it comes from
[18:30] <ahoneybun> happy birthday ovidiu-florin!
[18:42] <Riddell> shadeslayer: which gnome patch?
[18:42] <Riddell> soee: "15:16 < pitti> tseliot: the u-d-c fix was just accepted by the RT team FYI
[18:42] <Riddell> that may fix your issue?
[18:43] <soee> Riddell: will test, but wirst i need to take shower
[18:48] <soee> Riddell: it is fix in ubuntu-drivers-common ?
[18:56] <Riddell> sgclark: so what do you think about uploading kf5.9?
[19:06] <sgclark> Riddell: to archive?
[19:06] <Riddell> sgclark: yeah, it seemed to build smooth enough, have you heard of any problems?
[19:07] <sgclark> Riddell: I have not heard any no. I personally have not yet tested it.
[19:07] <sgclark> let me do that first.. here in a min
[19:07] <Riddell> thanks, I'm testing too
[19:08] <Riddell> I think if it's all good I'll run the script and upload
[19:10] <Riddell> I'll also add https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123355/ to fix the kf5people translations
[19:10] <sgclark> Riddell: ok thank you
[19:24] <soee> :/
[19:25] <soee> Update installed with propriety  driver  and system broken 
[19:46] <soee> reinstaling system :/
[20:24] <Riddell> 21:17 < wxl> Riddell: there is some reason to believe that bug 1441843 affects kubuntu, too? sgclark and Kamilion had kind of suggested as such.
[20:24] <Riddell> anyone tested lately?
[20:24] <sgclark> not lately, I just remember it
[20:33] <mparillo> I installed to a VMware Player VM, and had no problem with Beta 2. Want me to re-test with a daily?
[20:50] <valorie> wth, apport just crashed again while I was trying to report a bug on update-manager-kde
[20:50] <valorie> core dump!
[20:56] <valorie> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/1443659
[21:10] <soee> this nvidia-prime stuff is a big fail so far :/
[21:12] <Riddell> mparillo: that would be useful
[21:14] <sgclark> though I recall ours to be a virtualbox issue
[21:17] <valorie> omg, why is launchpad so opaque
[21:17] <valorie> I just want to file a freaking bug
[21:19] <sgclark> lol
[21:19] <sgclark> yeah it is not user friendly in filing bugs
[21:19] <valorie> I'll ask a question instead, since apport crashes
[21:19] <valorie> damn
[21:20] <shadeslayer> Riddell: nvm
[21:22] <yofel> valorie: from what I see, the kde UI crashes, so use "DISPLAY= apport-cli /var/crash/<apport_crashfile>"
[21:24] <valorie> yofel: use that where?
[21:24] <yofel> konsole
[21:24] <yofel> though I can't know the exact filename you need
[21:24] <valorie> in another attempt to file the bug, you mean?
[21:25] <yofel> well, that'll omit the KDE UI, so you should be able to use apport fine
[21:25] <valorie> ah
[21:25]  * Riddell uploading kde frameworks 5.9
[21:25] <valorie> I "asked" https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/265138
[21:26] <valorie> yofel: 
[21:26] <valorie> $ DISPLAY= apport-cli /var/crash/<apport_crashfile>
[21:26] <valorie> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[21:26] <yofel> well, that was an example as I didn't know what you wanted to do. You probably want "DISPLAY= apport-cli update-manager-kde"
[21:27] <valorie> ok, trying that
[21:27] <valorie> oooo, seems to be working
[21:28] <valorie> so is there a bug I should file on bko, and if so, on what?
[21:29] <valorie> weeeee, that seems to be working
[21:29] <valorie> thank you yofel
[21:30] <yofel> sure
[21:30] <yofel> gave me a rare chance to wear my ubuntu bugsquad hat for a change ^^
[21:33] <valorie> :-)
[21:34] <valorie> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1443666
[21:35] <valorie> so back to the real issue: what is the KDE bug keeping me from using apport to file that bug properly?
[21:37] <yofel> looks like a bug in apport-kde to me
[21:39] <valorie> well, I've filed two bugs on apport
[21:39] <valorie> and I'm not the only one apport is crashing on
[21:39] <valorie> so is apport-kde our application, or KDE's?
[21:39] <yofel> our
[21:40] <valorie> as a bugsquadder, you can move that to our plate, right?
[21:40] <valorie> or do I need to file another bug?
[21:40] <valorie> I'm not convinced it isn't apport itself
[21:41] <yofel> put on our RC list
[21:42] <valorie> however, coffee ingested, house to clean, away from keyboard now
[21:44] <yofel> well, the issue is a TypeError in our UI refresh code. Not that I fully get what that code does...
[21:45] <mparillo> Riddell: I am downloading the daily iso now to test 1441843.
[21:47] <mparillo> Nobody here running zsync for Windows are they?
[22:00]  * genii 's ears perk up at the mention of his favourite caffeinated beverage
[22:02] <Riddell> irn bru?
[22:02] <yofel> coffee ;P
[22:03] <genii> mmmm coffee
[22:03] <Riddell> now available in space http://www.networkworld.com/article/2908031/security0/the-international-space-station-finally-gets-an-espresso-machine.html
[22:04] <genii> Heh, yes, I saw that earlier today on the aborted SpaceX flight feed
[22:06] <mparillo> Logging off to test bug 1441843 with today's ISO
[22:08] <shadeslayer> DLNA, Y U NO WORK
[22:52] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: you can change the topic now :P
[22:52]  * ovidiu-florin wonders if it's  still his birthday in some countries
[22:55] <shadeslayer> ovidiu-florin: you can change the topic too
[22:55] <shadeslayer> it's not locked
[23:52] <mparillo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cdimage/+bug/1441843 does not seem to apply to Kubuntu (at least on VMware Player 6.0.5 build-2443746) I just used today's ISO.