[00:18] Kernel 4.0 released today! [03:17] ahoneybun: isn't it an arbitrary number at this point? [04:17] Pretty much. === rperier_ is now known as rperier [06:43] good morning [07:03] Good morning. [08:20] Riddell: ping [08:21] what was the command to check gpu ? [08:22] soee: How check? Like what you have? [08:22] lordievader: yes [08:23] soee: lspci -k|grep -A2 VGA [08:23] Or read the list lshw outputs. [08:24] lordievader: nice, thank you [08:27] guys propriety drivers for nvidai cards work fine for you in Vivid ? [08:34] does anyone want to do very simple packaging changes to make CI happy? ^^ [08:35] Riddell: where do I pack the rfkill udev rule? data package? seems a bit meh-sy [08:42] Riddell: why is http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/kde-std/sddm.git/tree/debian/patches/kubuntu_dbus-config-rename.diff?h=kubuntu_unstable not upstreamed? [08:49] sitter: I managed to convince him to put it in upstream [08:49] sitter: so hopefully it's already in there [08:51] Riddell: the rfkill is there, I am asking where we should put it packagingwise [09:10] * ovidiu-florin is turning 24 today [09:11] a young spring chicken :) === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: ¡Happy Birthday ovidiu! | Kubuntu - 10 years of friendlyness | KF5 5.9 Status: http://goo.gl/gI3xd0 | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | Crash tracker : http://goo.gl/Cdynad | 20 bugs to fix http://goo.gl/Chh7uh [09:11] Thank you Riddell [09:13] * Riddell slides an irn-bru down the table to ovidiu-florin [09:13] * ovidiu-florin googles irn-bru [09:13] thank you :D [09:15] ovidiu-florin: Congratulations! [09:17] I'll be drinking http://www.dragosasaftei.ro/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/fotografie-de-produs-cu-amintire-silva-dark-7.jpg and http://www.letspartystore.ro/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/bere_nenea_iancu_lps.jpg and http://blufftonbeerfest.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/hobgoblin.jpg this evening [09:17] ovidiu-florin: all the best and next 24 years with kubutnu :D [09:18] and also: http://www.carrefour-online.ro/-/media/Images/Products/1/2/0/N1_5942016300611.png?w=460&h=460&q=90&bc=white [09:19] Thank you lordievader and soee [09:20] Hob Goblin++ [09:21] just be careful of that Țuică ovidiu-florin! [09:21] oh [09:21] that will just get things started [09:22] beer is just for warmup [09:23] oh do be careful, we need our website master alive! [09:28] Riddell: don't worry [09:29] this is something usual in Romania [09:36] kubotu: order birthday package for ovidiu-florin [09:36] * kubotu is running to the corner shop to get a birthday present. [09:36] * kubotu slides a birthday cake and a present down the bar to ovidiu-florin and gives everyone a nice frosty mug of beer. [09:36] Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday ovidiu-florin, happy birthday to you!!!! - Wooooho! [09:36] Happy Birthday ovidiu-florin :D [09:36] To your health! [09:37] * ovidiu-florin opens the present... [09:38] Ohhh [09:38] I love it ' [09:38] thank you [09:44] sitter: no alcohol before midday! [09:44] even on ovidiu-florin's birthday [09:49] ovidiu-florin: happy birthday! [09:53] Riddell: blame kubotu. he's bad influence [10:24] Riddell: you sillt haven't answered where to put the udev rule packagingwise :P [10:25] sitter: doesn't cmake put it somewhere sane? [10:31] Riddell: which package [10:35] sitter: libkf5bluezqt5 ? [10:36] Riddell: but then the lib becomes non-multiarch and contains un-soversioned data files [10:37] former I don't care so much about, but latter sucks quite a bit [10:42] sitter: so add a libkf5bluezqt-data ? [10:42] that was my question :P [10:51] mhhh [10:51] then again [10:51] god I hate packaging [10:55] sitter: shall we just switch to arch linux and stop bothering with packaging? [10:55] or an installer for that matter [10:56] upstream seems to be fine with arch [10:57] upstream is a bunch of nutters who don't know the first thing about usable software [10:57] oh wait, did I say that out loud :) [10:58] heh [10:59] Guys it's not even Friday yet :p [11:07] it was friday only the other day [11:07] shadeslayer: what country are you in today? [11:08] Still in London :) [11:08] Its been sunny all weel [11:08] *week [11:10] rare [11:12] :) [11:13] I went golfing on the weekend and now everything is sore [11:13] Golf and badminton xD [11:13] is golf a tiring sport? it's just walking around a field no? [11:14] I drove a 100 balls on the driving range [11:14] soee: you may be interested in bug https://launchpad.net/bugs/1443364 [11:14] Launchpad bug 1443364 in ubuntu-drivers-common (Ubuntu) "gpu-manager systemd unit doesn't always work as expected" [Critical,Triaged] [11:15] shadeslayer: simple leaver mechanics, hardly hard work for you I'm sure [11:15] Riddell: still doesn't mean you dont get sore [11:18] Riddell: this is the one Alverto posted in comment to my bug report ? [11:18] *Alberto [11:20] soee: dunno could be [11:33] Hiyas all [11:39] some panel widgets still don't work , like icons-only task manager, and it's been so for a while now [11:44] ok , now I see how it's setup, riight click in the panel and choose alternatives and a gui pops up with a choice that actually works === rdieter_work is now known as rdieter [11:53] Riddell: https://i.imgur.com/19Yf1Vb.jpg [11:53] Riddell: found at a bus stop last night [11:54] ah, if only it were true :) [11:59] ;) [12:00] d_ed: ^^ [12:01] Riddell: libxext released. [12:06] how to make vivid work really smooth on my pc ? kill baloo_file process [12:11] soee, and akonadi [12:51] Riddell: bug 1443430 [12:51] bug 1443430 in plasma-desktop (Ubuntu) "plasma-desktop & plasma-desktop-data version" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1443430 [14:41] hm [14:41] mh [14:41] Riddell, shadeslayer: is there a reason the patch-parser is running on ~jr rather than the shared account on qa.kubuntu? [14:42] idk [14:42] Possibly jr set it up [14:43] shadeslayer: btw, I am dropping author/date fallback to git for now. seeing as the thing should support both git and bzr that needs abstractoring [14:43] okie dokie [15:33] we really need to do something about the amount of silly git clones we have all over the place [15:40] * shadeslayer gives sitter a flamethrower [15:40] sitter: btw how do you want to solve the issue of having the | seperator in build deps [15:55] shadeslayer: hm? [15:55] sitter: Build-Depends: foo | bar [15:55] we only parse foo at the moment [16:17] shadeslayer: as I said last time you asked the exact same question... Relationship class needs to be fixed to account for this [16:17] yeah but how /o\ [16:17] like [16:18] you need some sort of priority ordering [16:19] shadeslayer: Array is an ordered data structures [16:19] -s [16:21] I don't have a clue what you're suggesting here, since if you have 2 of those then there are like 4 combinations of the build deps [16:21] any one of which could be valid [16:25] shadeslayer: are you asking me how to implement a dependency resolver or what's the question here? [16:26] yes, implementing a dep resolver [16:26] wouldn't that have to go into the control parser [16:27] hm, maybe not, thinking about it is giving me a headache [16:27] ok, wtf dpkg-buildpackage [16:28] build source with sbuild, works, build source with custom tooling, broken [16:28] shadeslayer: how many *parsers* do you know that implement a dependency resolver? Oo [16:29] sitter: ok, so resolver goes ontop of control parser [16:29] hm [16:29] fun [16:29] anyway ... either use whatever script sbuild/pbuilder use [16:30] or implement a simplified version of the pbuilder one... which IIRC basically installs a fake package via dpkg with the build-depends of your source used as the depends of the fake and then runs apt-get -f install to have apt resolve the now broken dependency tree [16:30] there's possibly less cumbersome approaches though [16:30] i.e I would really just use the existing script from pbuilder TBH [16:31] oh gosh [16:31] such late [16:32] it's only 6:30 [16:32] Riddell: if you get a chance maybe send me a mail with what ruby version the patch-parser in your home is run against [16:32] I fear I wrote somewhat too newish code [16:32] http://squirrel-lang.org/ [16:32] quite nutty that one [16:38] shadeslayer: What has a Hazel nut in every Class ;-) [16:43] :D [16:50] does anyone else notice plasmashell start to use 20-35% memory? [17:04] % doesn't tell much, here it usually sits around at ~380MiB [17:07] Riddell: ping, can you send that gnome patch upstream to Debian too [17:52] yofel: do you know how to figure out what env var comes from where [17:52] no [17:52] I have a random one in my PATH [17:52] no clue where it comes from [18:30] happy birthday ovidiu-florin! [18:42] shadeslayer: which gnome patch? [18:42] soee: "15:16 < pitti> tseliot: the u-d-c fix was just accepted by the RT team FYI [18:42] that may fix your issue? [18:43] Riddell: will test, but wirst i need to take shower [18:48] Riddell: it is fix in ubuntu-drivers-common ? [18:56] sgclark: so what do you think about uploading kf5.9? [19:06] Riddell: to archive? [19:06] sgclark: yeah, it seemed to build smooth enough, have you heard of any problems? [19:07] Riddell: I have not heard any no. I personally have not yet tested it. [19:07] let me do that first.. here in a min [19:07] thanks, I'm testing too [19:08] I think if it's all good I'll run the script and upload [19:10] I'll also add https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123355/ to fix the kf5people translations [19:10] Riddell: ok thank you [19:24] :/ [19:25] Update installed with propriety driver and system broken [19:46] reinstaling system :/ === rdieter is now known as rdieter_work [20:24] 21:17 < wxl> Riddell: there is some reason to believe that bug 1441843 affects kubuntu, too? sgclark and Kamilion had kind of suggested as such. [20:24] bug 1441843 in Ubuntu CD Images "X server fails to start on post-final Beta Lubuntu Vivid desktop images in virtual machines" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1441843 [20:24] anyone tested lately? [20:24] not lately, I just remember it [20:33] I installed to a VMware Player VM, and had no problem with Beta 2. Want me to re-test with a daily? [20:50] wth, apport just crashed again while I was trying to report a bug on update-manager-kde [20:50] core dump! [20:56] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/1443659 [20:57] Launchpad bug 1443659 in apport (Ubuntu) "Apport crashes when I try to report a bug on update-manager-kde" [Undecided,New] [21:10] this nvidia-prime stuff is a big fail so far :/ [21:12] mparillo: that would be useful [21:14] though I recall ours to be a virtualbox issue [21:17] omg, why is launchpad so opaque [21:17] I just want to file a freaking bug [21:19] lol [21:19] yeah it is not user friendly in filing bugs [21:19] I'll ask a question instead, since apport crashes [21:19] damn [21:20] Riddell: nvm [21:22] valorie: from what I see, the kde UI crashes, so use "DISPLAY= apport-cli /var/crash/" [21:24] yofel: use that where? [21:24] konsole [21:24] though I can't know the exact filename you need [21:24] in another attempt to file the bug, you mean? [21:25] well, that'll omit the KDE UI, so you should be able to use apport fine [21:25] ah [21:25] * Riddell uploading kde frameworks 5.9 [21:25] I "asked" https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/265138 [21:26] yofel: [21:26] $ DISPLAY= apport-cli /var/crash/ [21:26] bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline' [21:26] well, that was an example as I didn't know what you wanted to do. You probably want "DISPLAY= apport-cli update-manager-kde" [21:27] ok, trying that [21:27] oooo, seems to be working [21:28] so is there a bug I should file on bko, and if so, on what? [21:29] weeeee, that seems to be working [21:29] thank you yofel [21:30] sure [21:30] gave me a rare chance to wear my ubuntu bugsquad hat for a change ^^ [21:33] :-) [21:34] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1443666 [21:34] Launchpad bug 1443666 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Text flashes in update-manager-kde before updating" [Undecided,New] [21:35] so back to the real issue: what is the KDE bug keeping me from using apport to file that bug properly? [21:37] looks like a bug in apport-kde to me [21:39] well, I've filed two bugs on apport [21:39] and I'm not the only one apport is crashing on [21:39] so is apport-kde our application, or KDE's? [21:39] our [21:40] as a bugsquadder, you can move that to our plate, right? [21:40] or do I need to file another bug? [21:40] I'm not convinced it isn't apport itself [21:41] put on our RC list [21:42] however, coffee ingested, house to clean, away from keyboard now [21:44] well, the issue is a TypeError in our UI refresh code. Not that I fully get what that code does... [21:45] Riddell: I am downloading the daily iso now to test 1441843. [21:47] Nobody here running zsync for Windows are they? [22:00] * genii 's ears perk up at the mention of his favourite caffeinated beverage [22:02] irn bru? [22:02] coffee ;P [22:03] mmmm coffee [22:03] now available in space http://www.networkworld.com/article/2908031/security0/the-international-space-station-finally-gets-an-espresso-machine.html [22:04] Heh, yes, I saw that earlier today on the aborted SpaceX flight feed [22:06] Logging off to test bug 1441843 with today's ISO [22:06] bug 1441843 in Ubuntu CD Images "X server fails to start on post-final Beta Lubuntu Vivid desktop images in virtual machines" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1441843 [22:08] DLNA, Y U NO WORK [22:52] Riddell: you can change the topic now :P [22:52] * ovidiu-florin wonders if it's still his birthday in some countries [22:55] ovidiu-florin: you can change the topic too [22:55] it's not locked === shadeslayer changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - 10 years of friendlyness | KF5 5.9 Status: http://goo.gl/gI3xd0 | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | Crash tracker : http://goo.gl/Cdynad | 20 bugs to fix http://goo.gl/Chh7uh [23:52] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cdimage/+bug/1441843 does not seem to apply to Kubuntu (at least on VMware Player 6.0.5 build-2443746) I just used today's ISO. [23:52] Launchpad bug 1441843 in Ubuntu CD Images "X server fails to start on post-final Beta Lubuntu Vivid desktop images in virtual machines" [High,Confirmed]