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larsugood morning!04:43
didrocksgood morning05:43
seb128good morning desktopers!07:04
didrocksre seb12807:04
seb128hey didrocks :-)07:04
willcookemorning07:38
didrockshappy Monday willcooke!07:39
FJKongseb128: hey seb07:47
FJKongseb128: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntukylin/+bug/1380981  which team maintain this ?07:47
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1380981 in Ubuntu Kylin "In UEFI mode, default langauge in Ubiquity language chooser is not Simplified Chinese" [Critical,New]07:47
willcookeCr crashing on startup again :/07:48
* willcooke runs in debug mode07:48
willcookehey FJKong, didrocks07:48
FJKongwillcooke: morning07:48
didrocksFJKong: foundation team is maintaining ubiquity, you should poke cyphermox I guess07:50
FJKongdidrocks: ok thanks07:51
willcookedidrocks, I caught a sigsegv in Cr start up in gdb - what do I do now?  Just type "bt"?07:53
darkxstwillcooke, "t a a bt" is usually the best07:54
didrockswillcooke: thread apply all07:55
didrocksand then bt full07:55
didrockswhich is "t a a bt" equivalent (but easier to remember IMHO with the full semantic)07:55
willcookethx didrocks07:56
darkxstdidrocks, I find that theory to fall over, since sometimes you need 2-3 letters to disambiguate the commands ;(07:57
darkxstand I don't really wanna be typing the full things07:57
seb128FJKong, hey, what didrocks said07:59
FJKongseb128: yp I will ping him07:59
willcookedidrocks, how do I save this to a file to upload to LP?08:00
didrockswillcooke: before typing bt full:08:01
didrocksset logging on08:01
didrocksbt full08:01
didrocksset logging off08:01
didrocks-> this will save in gdb.txt in your current dir08:01
willcookedidrocks, can I do that "bt full" after I've done a "t a a bt" - will all the information still be correct?08:08
didrockswillcooke: sure, it will keep the same state08:09
willcookedidrocks, great, thanks very much08:10
didrocksyw!08:11
seb128bah09:13
* seb128 gives the look to https://launchpadlibrarian.net/202763833/buildlog_ubuntu-vivid-amd64.xdg-user-dirs_0.15-2ubuntu3_BUILDING.txt.gz09:14
seb128it's building locally and in a pbuilder09:14
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seb128no f clue what's wrong :-/09:14
* didrocks is having "fun" as well with python_distutils & python309:15
Laneyseb128: fails for me in sbuild09:17
Laneyindeed there is no po/aa.po09:17
seb128Laney, shrug09:17
seb128but it's in the launchpad_translation_export patch09:18
seb128and it's there when I apt-get source09:18
* seb128 doesn't get it09:18
Laneyhaha09:18
Laneythat patch is bugged09:18
seb128?09:19
seb128wfm09:19
Laneyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/10814554/09:19
didrocksyeah, no aa.po in the patch09:19
seb128?09:19
Laneyno po/09:20
didrocksseb128: some are in the <root>/09:20
seb128$ patch -p1 < debian/patches/launchpad_translation_export.patch09:20
seb128patching file aa.po09:20
Laneynot po/aa.po09:20
didrocksxdg-user-dirs-0.15/aa.po09:20
seb128grumpf09:20
seb128why does it build in a pbuilder?09:20
seb128or locally09:20
Laneynfi09:21
Laneybut mv *.po po/ makes it build for me09:21
seb128thanks, let me fix that09:21
seb128apt-get source xdg-user-dirs09:22
seb128cd xdg-user-dirs-0.1509:22
seb128$ ls po09:22
seb128aa.po               en_CA.po           kk.po           quot.sed09:22
seb128go figure...09:22
seb128grrrr09:22
seb128k, that's the old version because I don't have a deb-src for proposed09:22
seb128Laney, didrocks, thanks09:22
Laneyhaha09:23
didrocksahah, no worry! :)09:23
Laneybad release team for approving that09:23
didrocksthose guys…09:24
Laneycowboys09:24
=== MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch
willcookeWorking at home for years, yet only today do I consider slicing my sandwich diagonally11:38
willcookeIt's the future.11:39
=== alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch
willcooke(abuse of position) qengho, I just logged this:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/144339511:53
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1443395 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "Chromium crashes on start up when opening second profile" [Undecided,New]11:53
davmor2willcooke: what you need good sir is a sandwich toaster it cuts it like that automagically and turns the contents of the sandwich into molten Lava ;)12:13
willcookedavmor2, Ohhhhh!  I loves me a toasted sandwhich!  I don't think I'd be able to stop eating them12:13
willcooke*sandwich12:14
willcookeAs I've always said, if you want your sandwich to be taken seriously it really needs to slightly resemble a shell12:14
qenghowillcooke: eh? Weird.Are any processes eating CPU time then?12:17
willcookeqengho, strangely - gnome keyring (which I saw another report about)12:18
qenghoqengho: ah ah ah. I know what that is.12:19
willcookeqengho, once I've got over that initial issue - it seems to be fine all day, then switch off and back on - and /sometimes/ the problem comes back12:19
qenghowillcooke: Cr wants to cache all the keys to use in auth. Know the pop-up name, address, password form completion? It doesn't ask gnome-keyring for a match on every form key-press. It constructs a list at startup. The IO is too hard on gnome-keyring. I'll try to back it off.12:22
willcookeah, nice one!12:22
willcookethx qengho12:22
seb128willcooke, qengho, that's https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=98601 right?12:39
willcookehrm, could be12:43
qenghoYes, that's the one, seb128.12:47
seb128k12:47
desrtwillcooke: new launch today, btw :)13:03
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willcookedesrt, ooooh!!  Feed?13:03
* willcooke googles13:03
desrtit's at 16h30 EST if the weather holds out13:03
flexiondotorgDoes, what will become Unity 8, require a compositor?13:07
desrtflexiondotorg: it has its own compositor built-in13:07
desrtthere is no uncomposited mode under mir13:07
seb128hey desrt13:07
flexiondotorgdesrt, OK. Understood.13:07
desrthi seb :)13:07
flexiondotorgdesrt, Does it has a software compositor fallback or require a GPU?13:08
desrti'm sure it would be able to use llvmpipe13:08
flexiondotorgdesrt, Thanks.13:09
seb128bug #111890313:09
ubot5bug 1118903 in Mir "[enhancement] Mir lacks a software rendering backend" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/111890313:09
flexiondotorgseb128, Thanks.13:09
seb128yw!13:09
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seb128hey pitti, had a good trip? didn't wake up too early?13:20
ogra_melatonin FTW !13:21
pittibonjour tout le monde !13:21
pittihey seb12813:21
didrocksmterry is closing a Quickly blueprint for 13.0413:21
didrocksbonjour pitti !13:21
pittiseb128: well, I woke up several times on Sunday and stopped sleeping at 4:30, today at 5:15, so progress!13:22
pittibonjour didrocks !13:22
pittialors, beaucoup de temps pour du travail et courier13:22
seb128pitti, c'est tôt ! :-(13:22
didrocksen parlant de courir, c'est l'heure !13:22
pittididrocks: :) enjoy!13:23
didrockspitti: thanks, hope the coffee will keep you awake :)13:23
seb128didrocks, enjoy13:24
pittididrocks: je ne bois pas du café :)13:24
pittididrocks: mais je me sense d'accord13:24
seb128kenvandine, do you have any clue about the issue with the updates panel loading?14:45
seb128or just doing random debug poking to try to get some idea about it?14:45
kenvandineseb128, i have a branch that seems to randomly fix it :)14:47
kenvandinehttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/ubuntu-system-settings/lp1438633/view/head:/plugins/about/PageComponent.qml14:47
seb128kenvandine, doing what? having a sleep(1) in the loader? ;-)14:47
kenvandineseb128, i can't reproduce it with that14:48
kenvandineno...14:48
kenvandinejust setting a variable from the getByName call14:48
kenvandineinstead of doing it inline14:48
seb128kenvandine, I saw that diff, it's what made me ping you14:48
kenvandinei was just doing that to get some debug output14:48
seb128but I didn't see  a change, just console.warn calls14:48
kenvandineand now i can't reproduce it :/14:48
seb128right14:48
seb128maybe timing14:48
kenvandinei reverted it14:48
kenvandineand reproduced it again14:49
seb128like you slowed down things?14:49
kenvandineyeah14:49
kenvandinemust be racy14:49
willcookeGuess what this is:  http://i.imgur.com/ffoKyoT.png14:54
willcookepopey, ^^14:54
willcookeanyone ^^^14:54
Laneyplaces where your stolen garden gnome has been photographed14:55
willcookeThe garden gnomes bit is correct14:55
popey:)14:55
willcookeI hacked up a script which took the city date from the directory and geo coded it and stuck it on a map14:55
willcookePoor show Kazakh Ubuntu fans - apply for more jobs at Canonical14:56
qenghoWe need more Africans.14:58
willcookeyes15:03
desrtnearly all of our africans are europeans15:03
Laneythe #1 guy is african, it's all good15:03
desrt(Canaries and Réunion)15:04
didrocksnobody react to have been treated of gnome? :p15:05
* desrt has no objection to being called a gnome :)15:06
willcooke:D15:06
seb128cyphermox, hey15:25
cyphermoxhey!15:25
cyphermoxseb128: how are you?15:25
seb128cyphermox, did you see my mention that the nm-applet segfault seems not fixed?15:26
cyphermoxI did15:26
seb128cyphermox, I'm good, thanks! How are you?15:26
cyphermoxnot too bad15:26
cyphermoxi thought I had answered it was going to take more work, it should have been fine15:26
seb128cyphermox, should upstream it, maybe they have a clue about the issue and fix it (then we can backport the patch)15:26
cyphermoxyeah, should be upstreamed15:26
seb128cyphermox, can you do it? ;-)15:26
cyphermox...15:26
seb128lol15:27
cyphermoxI guess I can spend the extra 2 minutes to do it, yes ;)15:27
cyphermoxwhere is that bug again?15:27
seb128cyphermox, thanks, it's more that you know upstream/n-m better so you might be more suited to deal with followups than me15:27
seb128cyphermox, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/141826015:27
ubot5Error: ubuntu bug 1418260 not found15:27
cyphermoxta15:27
seb128cyphermox, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1181128 is a fedora equivalent if you want to show upstream that it's not Ubuntu specific15:28
ubot5bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1181128 in network-manager-applet "[abrt] network-manager-applet: add_menu_item(): nm-applet killed by SIGSEGV" [Unspecified,New]15:28
seb128cyphermox, yw!15:28
seb128happyaron, what's the status on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ibus/+bug/1439202 ?15:30
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1439202 in ibus (Ubuntu) "/usr/lib/ibus/ibus-ui-gtk3:11:XKeysymToKeycode:keybinding_manager_bind:panel_keybinding_manager_bind:panel_bind_switch_shortcut:panel_construct" [High,Confirmed]15:30
seb128ted, hey, do you have any idea what https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/45a450ff9d534458de5666d47abe150801af4041 is about?15:32
seb128indicator-session-unknown-user-error in upstart, seems like a weird report15:32
seb128is that a recoverable error or something?15:32
tedseb128, Give me a minute, OTP.15:33
seb128ted, sure, no hurry15:33
Laneydesrt: dconf-editor's COPYING says LGPL 2.1 but about says GPL 2+ --- who wins? :)15:33
Laneyhi, btw!15:33
seb128TheMuso, hey, could you look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1425447 (not sure if you saw the bug assignment/comments)15:34
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1425447 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "pulseaudio crashed with SIGABRT in core_free() at login" [High,Confirmed]15:34
tedseb128, Yeah, seems to be a recoverable error, I think that charles_ made it.15:35
tedseb128, Seems like were getting a uid of zero in there...15:35
tedcharles_, An instance: https://errors.ubuntu.com/oops/a0a947c0-e1d6-11e4-9f12-fa163e75317b15:35
seb128indeed15:35
* charles_ looks15:36
seb128charles_, ted, bug #1443502 (not sure why e.u.c thinks it's an "upstart" bug?)15:36
ubot5bug 1443502 in upstart (Ubuntu) "indicator-session-unknown-user-error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144350215:36
tedseb128, It's probably because it happens when i-session is shutting down, so by the time apport gets to getting the PID information it is no longer existing, so it reports on the parent.15:37
seb128k15:37
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seb128charles, ted, oh, another one for you (and then I stop the nagging for today ;-) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1432446 ... seems like the handling of missing session bus is incomplete15:38
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1432446 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "indicator-sound-service crashed with signal 5 in indicator_sound_service_construct()" [Medium,Confirmed]15:38
desrtLaney: uhm... about, i guess15:39
desrtLaney: COPYING is probably because dconf itself was lgpl and i forgot to change that15:39
Laneyya, figured15:39
Laneymerci15:40
* Laney loves writing debian/copyright15:40
tedseb128, I think that charles already has that on his TODO15:40
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seb128k15:41
seb128larsu, Laney, was the "gedit underline errors" issues supposed to be fixed? it does underline those in light grey here, it's almost not visible15:41
Laneyyes, works here15:42
seb128I wonder if I need a session restart?15:42
seb128brb15:42
Laneydo you have the latest light-themes?15:42
charlesseb128, ted, ack, I even got a card for it added to this sprint15:44
seb128charles, great, thanks15:44
charles(as of about 30 minutes ago)15:44
seb128Laney, larsu, sorry, seems like I didn't get the ubuntu-themes update when I updated earlier for some reason15:45
Laneyat least it's an easy fix :P15:47
seb128;-)15:48
Laneyunpacking ubuntu-docs always kills my SSD15:50
happyaronseb128: is looking at it now15:58
seb128happyaron, thanks15:58
happyaronseb128: possibly it will be tomorrow to give a treatment..15:59
seb128happyaron, sure, that's not an issue16:00
didrockssee you tomorrow guys16:48
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larsuseb128: sorry was out for early dinner and looking at an appartment. Seems the issue solved itself though?17:07
seb128larsu, it is yes, thanks17:11
larsu:)17:11
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desrtdamnit20:31
desrtanother scrub :(20:31
desrtevil weather20:32
TheMusoseb128: I have asked upstream about whether those crashers already are patched post 6.0. If I'm told they are not, I will be filing them upstream and tagging he launchpad bugs appropriately.21:10
TheMusougy, I wish my client would not tab complete if the person wasn't online. :S21:14

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