[04:43] <larsu> good morning!
[05:43] <didrocks> good morning
[07:04] <seb128> good morning desktopers!
[07:04] <didrocks> re seb128
[07:04] <seb128> hey didrocks :-)
[07:38] <willcooke> morning
[07:39] <didrocks> happy Monday willcooke!
[07:47] <FJKong> seb128: hey seb
[07:47] <FJKong> seb128: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntukylin/+bug/1380981  which team maintain this ?
[07:48] <willcooke> Cr crashing on startup again :/
[07:48]  * willcooke runs in debug mode
[07:48] <willcooke> hey FJKong, didrocks
[07:48] <FJKong> willcooke: morning
[07:50] <didrocks> FJKong: foundation team is maintaining ubiquity, you should poke cyphermox I guess
[07:51] <FJKong> didrocks: ok thanks
[07:53] <willcooke> didrocks, I caught a sigsegv in Cr start up in gdb - what do I do now?  Just type "bt"?
[07:54] <darkxst> willcooke, "t a a bt" is usually the best
[07:55] <didrocks> willcooke: thread apply all
[07:55] <didrocks> and then bt full
[07:55] <didrocks> which is "t a a bt" equivalent (but easier to remember IMHO with the full semantic)
[07:56] <willcooke> thx didrocks
[07:57] <darkxst> didrocks, I find that theory to fall over, since sometimes you need 2-3 letters to disambiguate the commands ;(
[07:57] <darkxst> and I don't really wanna be typing the full things
[07:59] <seb128> FJKong, hey, what didrocks said
[07:59] <FJKong> seb128: yp I will ping him
[08:00] <willcooke> didrocks, how do I save this to a file to upload to LP?
[08:01] <didrocks> willcooke: before typing bt full:
[08:01] <didrocks> set logging on
[08:01] <didrocks> bt full
[08:01] <didrocks> set logging off
[08:01] <didrocks> -> this will save in gdb.txt in your current dir
[08:08] <willcooke> didrocks, can I do that "bt full" after I've done a "t a a bt" - will all the information still be correct?
[08:09] <didrocks> willcooke: sure, it will keep the same state
[08:10] <willcooke> didrocks, great, thanks very much
[08:11] <didrocks> yw!
[09:13] <seb128> bah
[09:14]  * seb128 gives the look to https://launchpadlibrarian.net/202763833/buildlog_ubuntu-vivid-amd64.xdg-user-dirs_0.15-2ubuntu3_BUILDING.txt.gz
[09:14] <seb128> it's building locally and in a pbuilder
[09:14] <seb128> no f clue what's wrong :-/
[09:15]  * didrocks is having "fun" as well with python_distutils & python3
[09:17] <Laney> seb128: fails for me in sbuild
[09:17] <Laney> indeed there is no po/aa.po
[09:17] <seb128> Laney, shrug
[09:18] <seb128> but it's in the launchpad_translation_export patch
[09:18] <seb128> and it's there when I apt-get source
[09:18]  * seb128 doesn't get it
[09:18] <Laney> haha
[09:18] <Laney> that patch is bugged
[09:19] <seb128> ?
[09:19] <seb128> wfm
[09:19] <Laney> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10814554/
[09:19] <didrocks> yeah, no aa.po in the patch
[09:19] <seb128> ?
[09:20] <Laney> no po/
[09:20] <didrocks> seb128: some are in the <root>/
[09:20] <seb128> $ patch -p1 < debian/patches/launchpad_translation_export.patch
[09:20] <seb128> patching file aa.po
[09:20] <Laney> not po/aa.po
[09:20] <didrocks> xdg-user-dirs-0.15/aa.po
[09:20] <seb128> grumpf
[09:20] <seb128> why does it build in a pbuilder?
[09:20] <seb128> or locally
[09:21] <Laney> nfi
[09:21] <Laney> but mv *.po po/ makes it build for me
[09:21] <seb128> thanks, let me fix that
[09:22] <seb128> apt-get source xdg-user-dirs
[09:22] <seb128> cd xdg-user-dirs-0.15
[09:22] <seb128> $ ls po
[09:22] <seb128> aa.po               en_CA.po           kk.po           quot.sed
[09:22] <seb128> go figure...
[09:22] <seb128> grrrr
[09:22] <seb128> k, that's the old version because I don't have a deb-src for proposed
[09:22] <seb128> Laney, didrocks, thanks
[09:23] <Laney> haha
[09:23] <didrocks> ahah, no worry! :)
[09:23] <Laney> bad release team for approving that
[09:24] <didrocks> those guys…
[09:24] <Laney> cowboys
[11:38] <willcooke> Working at home for years, yet only today do I consider slicing my sandwich diagonally
[11:39] <willcooke> It's the future.
[11:53] <willcooke> (abuse of position) qengho, I just logged this:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1443395
[12:13] <davmor2> willcooke: what you need good sir is a sandwich toaster it cuts it like that automagically and turns the contents of the sandwich into molten Lava ;)
[12:13] <willcooke> davmor2, Ohhhhh!  I loves me a toasted sandwhich!  I don't think I'd be able to stop eating them
[12:14] <willcooke> *sandwich
[12:14] <willcooke> As I've always said, if you want your sandwich to be taken seriously it really needs to slightly resemble a shell
[12:17] <qengho> willcooke: eh? Weird.Are any processes eating CPU time then?
[12:18] <willcooke> qengho, strangely - gnome keyring (which I saw another report about)
[12:19] <qengho> qengho: ah ah ah. I know what that is.
[12:19] <willcooke> qengho, once I've got over that initial issue - it seems to be fine all day, then switch off and back on - and /sometimes/ the problem comes back
[12:22] <qengho> willcooke: Cr wants to cache all the keys to use in auth. Know the pop-up name, address, password form completion? It doesn't ask gnome-keyring for a match on every form key-press. It constructs a list at startup. The IO is too hard on gnome-keyring. I'll try to back it off.
[12:22] <willcooke> ah, nice one!
[12:22] <willcooke> thx qengho
[12:39] <seb128> willcooke, qengho, that's https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=98601 right?
[12:43] <willcooke> hrm, could be
[12:47] <qengho> Yes, that's the one, seb128.
[12:47] <seb128> k
[13:03] <desrt> willcooke: new launch today, btw :)
[13:03] <willcooke> desrt, ooooh!!  Feed?
[13:03]  * willcooke googles
[13:03] <desrt> it's at 16h30 EST if the weather holds out
[13:07] <flexiondotorg> Does, what will become Unity 8, require a compositor?
[13:07] <desrt> flexiondotorg: it has its own compositor built-in
[13:07] <desrt> there is no uncomposited mode under mir
[13:07] <seb128> hey desrt
[13:07] <flexiondotorg> desrt, OK. Understood.
[13:07] <desrt> hi seb :)
[13:08] <flexiondotorg> desrt, Does it has a software compositor fallback or require a GPU?
[13:08] <desrt> i'm sure it would be able to use llvmpipe
[13:09] <flexiondotorg> desrt, Thanks.
[13:09] <seb128> bug #1118903
[13:09] <flexiondotorg> seb128, Thanks.
[13:09] <seb128> yw!
[13:20] <seb128> hey pitti, had a good trip? didn't wake up too early?
[13:21] <ogra_> melatonin FTW !
[13:21] <pitti> bonjour tout le monde !
[13:21] <pitti> hey seb128
[13:21] <didrocks> mterry is closing a Quickly blueprint for 13.04
[13:21] <didrocks> bonjour pitti !
[13:22] <pitti> seb128: well, I woke up several times on Sunday and stopped sleeping at 4:30, today at 5:15, so progress!
[13:22] <pitti> bonjour didrocks !
[13:22] <pitti> alors, beaucoup de temps pour du travail et courier
[13:22] <seb128> pitti, c'est tôt ! :-(
[13:22] <didrocks> en parlant de courir, c'est l'heure !
[13:23] <pitti> didrocks: :) enjoy!
[13:23] <didrocks> pitti: thanks, hope the coffee will keep you awake :)
[13:24] <seb128> didrocks, enjoy
[13:24] <pitti> didrocks: je ne bois pas du café :)
[13:24] <pitti> didrocks: mais je me sense d'accord
[14:45] <seb128> kenvandine, do you have any clue about the issue with the updates panel loading?
[14:45] <seb128> or just doing random debug poking to try to get some idea about it?
[14:47] <kenvandine> seb128, i have a branch that seems to randomly fix it :)
[14:47] <kenvandine> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/ubuntu-system-settings/lp1438633/view/head:/plugins/about/PageComponent.qml
[14:47] <seb128> kenvandine, doing what? having a sleep(1) in the loader? ;-)
[14:48] <kenvandine> seb128, i can't reproduce it with that
[14:48] <kenvandine> no...
[14:48] <kenvandine> just setting a variable from the getByName call
[14:48] <kenvandine> instead of doing it inline
[14:48] <seb128> kenvandine, I saw that diff, it's what made me ping you
[14:48] <kenvandine> i was just doing that to get some debug output
[14:48] <seb128> but I didn't see  a change, just console.warn calls
[14:48] <kenvandine> and now i can't reproduce it :/
[14:48] <seb128> right
[14:48] <seb128> maybe timing
[14:48] <kenvandine> i reverted it
[14:49] <kenvandine> and reproduced it again
[14:49] <seb128> like you slowed down things?
[14:49] <kenvandine> yeah
[14:49] <kenvandine> must be racy
[14:54] <willcooke> Guess what this is:  http://i.imgur.com/ffoKyoT.png
[14:54] <willcooke> popey, ^^
[14:54] <willcooke> anyone ^^^
[14:55] <Laney> places where your stolen garden gnome has been photographed
[14:55] <willcooke> The garden gnomes bit is correct
[14:55] <popey> :)
[14:55] <willcooke> I hacked up a script which took the city date from the directory and geo coded it and stuck it on a map
[14:56] <willcooke> Poor show Kazakh Ubuntu fans - apply for more jobs at Canonical
[14:58] <qengho> We need more Africans.
[15:03] <willcooke> yes
[15:03] <desrt> nearly all of our africans are europeans
[15:03] <Laney> the #1 guy is african, it's all good
[15:04] <desrt> (Canaries and Réunion)
[15:05] <didrocks> nobody react to have been treated of gnome? :p
[15:06]  * desrt has no objection to being called a gnome :)
[15:06] <willcooke> :D
[15:25] <seb128> cyphermox, hey
[15:25] <cyphermox> hey!
[15:25] <cyphermox> seb128: how are you?
[15:26] <seb128> cyphermox, did you see my mention that the nm-applet segfault seems not fixed?
[15:26] <cyphermox> I did
[15:26] <seb128> cyphermox, I'm good, thanks! How are you?
[15:26] <cyphermox> not too bad
[15:26] <cyphermox> i thought I had answered it was going to take more work, it should have been fine
[15:26] <seb128> cyphermox, should upstream it, maybe they have a clue about the issue and fix it (then we can backport the patch)
[15:26] <cyphermox> yeah, should be upstreamed
[15:26] <seb128> cyphermox, can you do it? ;-)
[15:26] <cyphermox> ...
[15:27] <seb128> lol
[15:27] <cyphermox> I guess I can spend the extra 2 minutes to do it, yes ;)
[15:27] <cyphermox> where is that bug again?
[15:27] <seb128> cyphermox, thanks, it's more that you know upstream/n-m better so you might be more suited to deal with followups than me
[15:27] <seb128> cyphermox, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/1418260
[15:27] <cyphermox> ta
[15:28] <seb128> cyphermox, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1181128 is a fedora equivalent if you want to show upstream that it's not Ubuntu specific
[15:28] <seb128> cyphermox, yw!
[15:30] <seb128> happyaron, what's the status on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ibus/+bug/1439202 ?
[15:32] <seb128> ted, hey, do you have any idea what https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/45a450ff9d534458de5666d47abe150801af4041 is about?
[15:32] <seb128> indicator-session-unknown-user-error in upstart, seems like a weird report
[15:32] <seb128> is that a recoverable error or something?
[15:33] <ted> seb128, Give me a minute, OTP.
[15:33] <seb128> ted, sure, no hurry
[15:33] <Laney> desrt: dconf-editor's COPYING says LGPL 2.1 but about says GPL 2+ --- who wins? :)
[15:33] <Laney> hi, btw!
[15:34] <seb128> TheMuso, hey, could you look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1425447 (not sure if you saw the bug assignment/comments)
[15:35] <ted> seb128, Yeah, seems to be a recoverable error, I think that charles_ made it.
[15:35] <ted> seb128, Seems like were getting a uid of zero in there...
[15:35] <ted> charles_, An instance: https://errors.ubuntu.com/oops/a0a947c0-e1d6-11e4-9f12-fa163e75317b
[15:35] <seb128> indeed
[15:36]  * charles_ looks
[15:36] <seb128> charles_, ted, bug #1443502 (not sure why e.u.c thinks it's an "upstart" bug?)
[15:37] <ted> seb128, It's probably because it happens when i-session is shutting down, so by the time apport gets to getting the PID information it is no longer existing, so it reports on the parent.
[15:37] <seb128> k
[15:38] <seb128> charles, ted, oh, another one for you (and then I stop the nagging for today ;-) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1432446 ... seems like the handling of missing session bus is incomplete
[15:39] <desrt> Laney: uhm... about, i guess
[15:39] <desrt> Laney: COPYING is probably because dconf itself was lgpl and i forgot to change that
[15:39] <Laney> ya, figured
[15:40] <Laney> merci
[15:40]  * Laney loves writing debian/copyright
[15:40] <ted> seb128, I think that charles already has that on his TODO
[15:41] <seb128> k
[15:41] <seb128> larsu, Laney, was the "gedit underline errors" issues supposed to be fixed? it does underline those in light grey here, it's almost not visible
[15:42] <Laney> yes, works here
[15:42] <seb128> I wonder if I need a session restart?
[15:42] <seb128> brb
[15:42] <Laney> do you have the latest light-themes?
[15:44] <charles> seb128, ted, ack, I even got a card for it added to this sprint
[15:44] <seb128> charles, great, thanks
[15:44] <charles> (as of about 30 minutes ago)
[15:45] <seb128> Laney, larsu, sorry, seems like I didn't get the ubuntu-themes update when I updated earlier for some reason
[15:47] <Laney> at least it's an easy fix :P
[15:48] <seb128> ;-)
[15:50] <Laney> unpacking ubuntu-docs always kills my SSD
[15:58] <happyaron> seb128: is looking at it now
[15:58] <seb128> happyaron, thanks
[15:59] <happyaron> seb128: possibly it will be tomorrow to give a treatment..
[16:00] <seb128> happyaron, sure, that's not an issue
[16:48] <didrocks> see you tomorrow guys
[17:07] <larsu> seb128: sorry was out for early dinner and looking at an appartment. Seems the issue solved itself though?
[17:11] <seb128> larsu, it is yes, thanks
[17:11] <larsu> :)
[20:31] <desrt> damnit
[20:31] <desrt> another scrub :(
[20:32] <desrt> evil weather
[21:10] <TheMuso> seb128: I have asked upstream about whether those crashers already are patched post 6.0. If I'm told they are not, I will be filing them upstream and tagging he launchpad bugs appropriately.
[21:14] <TheMuso> ugy, I wish my client would not tab complete if the person wasn't online. :S