[00:00] <velho> Layl: Whats ya doin?
[00:00] <Layl> velho: installing ubuntu
[00:00] <Layl> on an existing windows install
[00:00] <Layl> that uses fakeraid
[00:01] <velho> Layl: Awesome! Sounds like fun lol. Tried the last beta out?
[00:01] <Layl> I'm using 14.10
[00:01] <Layl> not gonna layer up another level of dragons
[00:01] <Layl> I'm already knee deep in them
[00:03] <Layl> daftykins, the mount point for the ext4 one should be / right?
[00:03] <wheresmypaaants> jonne: Just FYI, the secondary keyboard was recognized and I used that to get the driver for my primary mouse, and now I'm setting up the keyboard. Fingers crossed it'll work after reboot.
[00:03] <jonne> (y)
[00:05] <daftykins> Layl: yep
[00:05] <Layl> daftykins, it seems it couldn't create the swap space? I have no idea why or what is wrong
[00:05] <daftykins> did it give an error? is this gparted?
[00:06] <Layl> this is the installer
[00:06] <Layl> I've set it to use the swap partition for swap
[00:06] <Layl> and it says it couldn't create the swap space
[00:06] <Layl> I think it's trying to make a new one
[00:06] <daftykins> hmm
[00:07] <daftykins> just clicked to highlight, hit change, then set swap?
[00:07] <Layl> no wait, it's saying it about partition 6, which is the swap one
[00:07] <wheresmypaaants> jonne: Finger crossing was successful, keyboard and mouse are functional.
[00:07] <Layl> yea I did that
[00:07] <Layl> should I format the swap partition to be sure
[00:07] <daftykins> from the outdated guide page - "Run the installer. When it gets to it's partitioner, change the mount point on the first partition to / DO NOT format it! Do NOT make any partition changes! The installer partitioner does not understand dmraid partitions properly "
[00:08] <Layl> I see, but that page doesn't at all resemble what I'm looking at
[00:08] <mrdeb> does anyone know fix for via openchrome driver corruption in 14.04, where it worked fine before with s3 kn400
[00:09] <daftykins> Layl: nah it doesn't use the same names and it is 5 years old heh
[00:09] <daftykins> seems sane though
[00:09] <Layl> "the creation of swap space in partition failed" is the error I'm getting
[00:10] <daftykins> hrmm
[00:10] <mrdeb> i dotn want to have to go back to windows xp on it
[00:11] <velho> mrdeb: Your error description is kind of transparent
[00:11] <mrdeb> velho: it is widespread problem after 13.10
[00:11] <velho> mrdeb: And mor or less ambigious
[00:11] <mrdeb> in all lniux versions
[00:12] <daftykins> mrdeb: the nasty VIA unichrome graphics? that hardware is so poor i would either not use it, or try using VESA only
[00:12] <mrdeb> daftykins: it works fine in 12.04 and deb 7
[00:12] <daftykins> velho: actually it's quite easy to follow if you're familiar with the chipset
[00:12] <mrdeb> why is it broken now
[00:12] <daftykins> mrdeb: so keep using 12.04? it's good until 2017
[00:12] <mrdeb> ok i will have to
[00:13] <Layl> daftykins, could it have anything to do with that the two partitions are together in an "extended" partition?
[00:13] <velho> daftykins: Well the question was "how to fix corruption as it worked before?"...
[00:13] <mrdeb> i want to know who broke it
[00:13] <daftykins> mrdeb: yeah good luck with that. it was rubbish hardware when it was new, so i'm amazed it worked as long as to 2012
[00:13] <daftykins> Layl: they are? i thought the EXT4 / was primary
[00:13] <mrdeb> ok
[00:14] <mrdeb> that doesnt mean u have to break driver when it worked before
[00:14] <mrdeb> seems very careful QA
[00:14] <mrdeb> less
[00:14] <Layl> daftykins, it is primary yes
[00:14] <mrdeb> do u agree
[00:14] <Layl> daftykins, here's the screenshot again with the details http://i.imgur.com/aFYkzsZ.jpg
[00:15] <daftykins> mrdeb: i'm afraid i don't really care for old hardware that belongs in a museum. feel free to ask in #linux whose fault it is though ;)
[00:15] <daftykins> Layl: hmm, i would delete those two and the extended partition - then recreate EXT4 as a primary
[00:16] <Layl> daftykins, will do, just gotta close out of the installer and do that then
[00:16] <treats> my filesysem os partition is full
[00:16] <hkrrsx> Back from dinner
[00:16] <treats> but I cant figure out what is causeing it
[00:16] <mrdeb> daftykins: should i stay with debian 7 on it if it will be longer support than 1204
[00:17] <treats> I used the disk analyzer tool, and cleaned things up, but it's not being reflected...
[00:17] <daftykins> mrdeb: this is not a debian channel :)
[00:17] <viejotren> hello, I have a problem with a package (python-pygame) on ubuntu 14.10. it has unmet dependence. the gccbase is newer on the OS. is there anyway to solve it?
[00:17] <daftykins> treats: "df -h | pastebinit" ?
[00:18] <hkrrsx> treats: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/check-your-disk-usage-on-ubuntu-with-disk-usage-analyzer/
[00:18] <hkrrsx> It *should* be built-in on Ubuntu
[00:18] <treats> hkrrsx: I used that and cleaned up the heavy hitters, but it didnt' seem to affect my df- h numbers
[00:19] <viejotren> apt-get -f install is not an option (does not work)
[00:19] <hkrrsx> treats: Then let's see that "df -h | pastebinit" as daftykins requested
[00:19] <alun0_> any php expert online ?
[00:19] <mrdeb> daftykins: so yes
[00:19] <daftykins> alun0_: try the PHP channel(s)
[00:19] <alun0_> could you tell me one please ?
[00:19] <daftykins> !alis | alun0_
[00:20] <daftykins> i'll take a wild stab and guess... #php ? ##php ?
[00:20] <treats> http://pastebin.com/DjadA4y5
[00:20] <hkrrsx> alun0_: /join ##php
[00:20] <alun0_> tks guys
[00:20] <daftykins> treats: what version is this?
[00:21] <treats> and the root dir utilization: http://pastebin.com/qrw8qKU4
[00:21] <mrdeb> how many years more can u use 1204 after 2017 if u put firefox in /opt for autoupdate
[00:21] <daftykins> mrdeb: you can't use 12.04 after April 2017.
[00:21] <treats> 14.01
[00:21] <treats> 14.04**
[00:21] <daftykins> it's dead
[00:21] <daftykins> treats: have you run a "sudo apt-get autoremove" ?
[00:22] <mrdeb> daftykins: yes i can it will work
[00:22] <hkrrsx> treats: Check your /var/log directory for large log files
[00:22] <mrdeb> and u can dl firefox from mozilla nad keep updating it
[00:22] <daftykins> mrdeb: right but it's not supported and you shouldn't do it. it'll be dead.
[00:22] <mrdeb> did u know this? i did
[00:22] <daftykins> mrdeb: that's a really unwise idea.
[00:22] <mrdeb> but computer wont work with 1404 so i would have to see how far debian 7 lts goes
[00:22] <daftykins> treats: i suspect your / volume has hit the 5% reserved for the user 'root' issue
[00:22] <daftykins> i can't comment on debian.
[00:23] <daftykins> or you could replace that ancient graphics hardware of yours :)
[00:23] <Layl> it does not immediately stop, this is an improvement
[00:24] <mrdeb> computer still works
[00:24] <Layl> computer has not been on fire in the last 5 minutes
[00:24] <daftykins> mrdeb: yes but there are safety and security issues with being online... it seems you do not understand this
[00:24] <treats> two things:  I see my kern.log.1 at 1542576
[00:24] <treats> safe to delete?
[00:24] <hkrrsx> NO
[00:24] <daftykins> that's tiny.
[00:24] <hkrrsx> Excuse the caps
[00:24] <treats> lol
[00:25] <treats> no big logs than
[00:25] <daftykins> treats: did you run apt-get autoremove yet?
[00:25] <Layl> I should probably be running LTS as well but I can't quite be bothered with the nightmare of outdated packages again
[00:26] <treats> it's docker!
[00:26] <daftykins> non-LTS makes me a very sad panda
[00:26] <daftykins> treats: what?
[00:26] <Layl> it's at least a step up from my previous install: all win8
[00:26] <treats> docker is using my os partition to pull down it's images
[00:26] <daftykins> heh.
[00:26] <treats> need to clean that up and change its behavior
[00:26] <treats> no access to folder... i'll figure it out
[00:27] <treats> I saw a group permission set to "whoopsie"
[00:27] <treats> is this alarming?
[00:27] <treats> I don't recognize the name
[00:27] <daftykins> no that's some kinda bug process i think
[00:27] <treats> thanks daftykins
[00:27] <daftykins> bug related user
[00:32] <jmg> hey guys, how do i change the banner name for exim4
[00:32] <hkrrsx> jmg: /join #exim
[00:35] <rexuss> Hi, I'm using a static IP for my lubuntu, however, when I checked the NetworkManager.conf file, I didn't see any IP address there. I also checked the /etc/network/interfaces file and it doesn't show any IP address which I assigned. Where else should I search for that?
[00:36] <hkrrsx> rexuss: Why are you looking for it anywhere other than the NetworkManager GUI ?
[00:37] <daftykins> ^+1 - it could be in Timbuctoo surely, just as long as it works? :)
[00:37] <rexuss> hkrrsx: just my curiosity to find which file it is storing the configuration in.
[00:38] <Layl> well, grub is starting now
[00:38] <Layl> but windows isn't in the menu
[00:39] <Layl> the partition is still there so I haven't lost anything yet, I can still restore it with a disc
[00:40] <gr33n7007h> rexuss: /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections # maybe something in here
[00:41] <daftykins> Layl: does ubuntu boot?
[00:41] <rexuss> gr33n7007h: thank you !! :) they are all there..
[00:42] <gr33n7007h> rexuss: np
[00:42] <Layl> daftykins: it does
[00:42] <daftykins> \o/
[00:43] <Layl> daftykins, though windows doesn't anymore
[00:43] <Layl> I guess people here would consider that a + but I don't
[00:44] <Layl> I'm about to run grub autoconfig to try and fix it
[00:44] <daftykins> only the childish ones - might be able to get it back by playing with boot-repair
[00:44] <daftykins> dunno
[00:44] <hkrrsx> gr33n7007h: Nice find
[00:44] <Layl> I'm keeping my windows partition for those games that don't quite like linux yet
[00:44] <gr33n7007h> anything config releated will be in etc somewhere :)
[00:44] <Layl> and older games
[00:45] <gr33n7007h> *related
[00:48] <mem11> Hello!
[00:49] <daftykins> lo
[00:49] <hkrrsx> mem11: Hello
[00:50] <mem11> I encountered a weird config issue on Ubuntu Gnome. Thought I should share. It could be identified as a bug. Though I couldn't find a webpage reporting it.
[00:51] <mem11> It's a fresh 14.04 and has 2 users: 1 admin, 1 normal
[00:51] <Layl> what's the issue?
[00:51] <hkrrsx> mem11: Please elaborate.
[00:52] <mem11> I don't know about the defaults, but I think it had autologin=true. I set it to false for my admin (before or after I added the 2nd user, I don't remember which)
[00:52] <Layl> it asks you during install
[00:52] <mem11> So my expectation is that my admin would require my password for login to X
[00:52] <wafflejock> yeah should have asked during install believe when you put in your password
[00:53] <mem11> But oh no, the login screen has a progress bar and in 10 seconds I get auto login
[00:53] <mem11> So I look into /etc/gdm/custom.conf and see TimedLogin=True :/
[00:54] <mem11> Even though I have AutoLogin=False now I'm auto logged in, just after _some time_
[00:54] <Layl> I just restarted after ubuntu ran updates and it started into gtub console :/
[00:54] <Layl> *grub
[00:54] <mem11> It's weird
[00:55] <wafflejock> mem11, hmm interesting... I actually have the same but never noticed cause I always just logged in instead of waiting
[00:55] <mem11> I fixed it manually by setting TimedLogin to False, no problem. But this could be fixed somehow, I think
[00:55] <daftykins> Layl: heading off now, good luck with it
[00:55] <Layl> whaaat
[00:55] <Layl> I have no idea what to do from here D:
[00:55] <daftykins> that makes 2 of us
[00:55] <Layl> I'm staring at the grub console
[00:55] <daftykins> !bootrepair
[00:55] <daftykins> other than trying that
[00:56] <daftykins> eh? i thought it did boot
[00:56] <Layl> it did, then I installed updates
[00:56] <daftykins> oh.
[00:56] <Layl> then it asked to restart
[00:56] <mem11> wafflejock: yeah, and there's no TimedLogin option in the GUI too
[00:56] <Layl> I let it do that, then it went into grub console
[00:56] <daftykins> Layl: boot live again, chroot - try update-grub, dunno
[00:56] <daftykins> !chroot
[00:56] <Layl> I'll try that
[00:57] <[Saint]> perhaps a new kernel was installed, the old one autoremoved, and for $some_reason update-grub wasn't called.
[00:57] <wafflejock> mem11, yeah might want to try #ubuntu-gnome or something to see if someone can tell you what's going on or point you to where to file a bug
[00:57] <[Saint]> though, it should have been.
[00:58] <mem11> wafflejock, ok maybe i'll do that
[00:58] <Layl> why am I having so many issues aaargh
[00:58] <wafflejock> mem11, I imagine it's probably still using launchpad for issues but not sure
[01:05] <Layl> update-grub says "failed to get canonical path of /cow"
[01:06] <swordsmanz> Layl did you feed it grass ?
[01:06] <Layl> no I did not
[01:06] <swordsmanz> Layl your cow died
[01:06] <Layl> uugggh so far it has taken me 4 hours to try to install ubuntu
[01:07] <swordsmanz> Layl did you try replaceing your bovine simulation unit with a ne wcow ?
[01:08] <Layl> I'm trying really hard to be polite here but that it has taken so much time is really pressing my patience
[01:08] <swordsmanz> Layl did you try the chroot sergestion put forward on the fourums ?
[01:09] <Layl> I did not, I am currently learning what chroot is and how it applies in this situation
[01:09] <samthewildone> lol
[01:09] <veebull> hey all.  I'm getting an ssh error message when I try to use `vagrant up` (ubuntu 14.04 host, ubuntu 14.04 vagrant box)
[01:09] <samthewildone> now editing the second video
[01:10] <veebull> The private key to connect to the machine via SSH must be owned
[01:10] <veebull> by the user running Vagrant.
[01:10] <swordsmanz> Layl chroot stands basically for change root, it allows you to apply root privalages from one drive iniroment to another
[01:10] <swordsmanz> enviroment &
[01:10] <veebull> then it gives a path to a file, but I cannot change the ownership of said file
[01:10] <hkrrsx> samthewildone: Wrong buffer again?
[01:11] <samthewildone> yes
[01:11] <hkrrsx> :)
[01:11] <samthewildone> hkrrsx, I automatically connect to this channel and keep forgeting to remove
[01:11] <hkrrsx> samthewildone: np
[01:12] <swordsmanz> Layl another thing you could try is downloading manjaro linux it will likely save you the headache of dealing with the crappy way canonical dose things
[01:12] <swordsmanz> and it has a larger software selection
[01:13] <Ben64> swordsmanz: please don't recommend other distros here
[01:14] <swordsmanz> Ben64 even if its the right advice for the person ?
[01:15] <Layl> I doubt a different distro will solve my raid problems
[01:15] <Ben64> swordsmanz: its not a solution to the problem, its not the right advice, it involves a heavy dose of FUD, and it makes this channel unavailable for support
[01:18] <Layl> I'm getting "already mounted or busy" while trying to chroot
[01:18] <Layl> *while trying to mount
[01:19] <swordsmanz> Layl dismount it and try again
[01:19] <Layl> I haven't mounted it
[01:19] <swordsmanz> well if it say sirt is mounted it proberbly is
[01:19] <swordsmanz> so try to dismount
[01:20] <Layl> how can I unmount something that I don't know where it's mounted to though
[01:20] <swordsmanz> Layl you use df
[01:22] <swordsmanz> or you can cat/proc mounts
[01:23] <mem11> Is there a way to query whether a package came with the distro or not?
[01:23] <Layl> not seeing this specific volume in the list in df
[01:23] <swordsmanz> Layl also it would be pertinent to k now if you are useing softraid or hardraid
[01:23] <Layl> I'm using fakeraid
[01:23] <Layl> unfortunately
[01:23] <swordsmanz> Layl was it set up by the installer ?
[01:23] <Layl> yea it was
[01:24] <Layl> if by installer you mean the place that assembled the computer
[01:24] <hkrrsx> mem11: One way is to check  http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu
[01:24] <hkrrsx> mem11: Another way is to check http://packages.ubuntu.com
[01:24] <swordsmanz> Layl no i mean the ubuntu installer
[01:24] <phix> ok Unity is acting up again (I click on something but keyboard focus stays in the previous window), when is Unity being planned to be fixed?
[01:24] <hkrrsx> Or you can apt-cache search <package_name>
[01:24] <Layl> the ubuntu installer did not set up anything, I had to manually create the partitions in gparted
[01:25] <Layl> trying to use umount tells me the volume is not mounted
[01:25] <Layl> this is quite the irritating situation
[01:26] <Layl> since only the livecd is running and both the ubuntu and windows install are bricked, I doubt anything can be keeping the volume busy
[01:26] <mem11> hkrrsx, hmm those would show me if the package is _provided_ but not in the main distro image, wouldn't it?
[01:27] <swordsmanz> Layl so ubuntu is installed but all you need is a bootloader ?
[01:27] <Layl> ubuntu is installed, grub is installed as well
[01:27] <hkrrsx> mem11: The distrowatch.com one would
[01:27] <Layl> but grub launches into a console rather than a menu
[01:28] <Layl> this happened after first being able to start fine, but then after running updates and restarting it stopped working
[01:28] <swordsmanz> Layl do you know where your /boot directory is being stored ?
[01:29] <Layl> I don't know what a /boot directory is
[01:29] <swordsmanz> it is where grub is strored
[01:29] <mem11> hkrrsx, ok thanks it does
[01:29] <swordsmanz> are you doing it all on one partition ?
[01:29] <hkrrsx> mem11: In the "Table Notes and Explanations" section, make sure the radial button next to All Tracked Packages is highlighted and click Refresh
[01:29] <Bashing-om> Layl: Wish I could help more, but anything from -> fuser -m /dev/<raid_device_name> ; see if you can see what is holding the device as busy ?
[01:29] <Layl> I'm using a split windows/ubuntu installation
[01:29] <hkrrsx> That'll give you all 219 packages
[01:29] <Layl> I've also got a swap partition
[01:30] <swordsmanz> Layl but is all your linux stuff configured in a linux partition ?
[01:30] <Layl> Bashing-om, just a sec I'll run that
[01:30] <Layl> swordsmanz, my linux stuff is configured on one partition for the files and one for the swap
[01:30] <wgolden> Hey folks, sorry for the silly question, but i'm looking to buy a new usb wireless adapter; any recommendations ? 14.04 support ?
[01:31] <swordsmanz> lay you need to boot to the install cd then drop to a prompt
[01:31] <Layl> Bashing-om, it doesn't show anything when running that
[01:31] <Layl> swordsmanz, I'm there already
[01:31] <swordsmanz> then you need to chroot into whereever grub is installed
[01:31] <Layl> I can't do that because I can't mount the volume
[01:31] <Layl> it's being held busy by spooky ghosts
[01:32] <hkrrsx> wgolden: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ubuntu+usb+wireless+adapter&ia=products
[01:32] <swordsmanz> Layl can you give me the ourput of df in a paste
[01:32] <Layl> swordsmanz, I can try if livecd comes with a browser
[01:32] <wgolden> hkrrsx:  how very helpful... I asked in here for personal recommendations, not to be linked to a search result.
[01:32] <ablest1980> paste.ubuntu.com
[01:33] <hkrrsx> wgolden: Be respectful.
[01:33] <swordsmanz> also of cat /proc/mounts
[01:33] <[Saint]> Layl: it does.
[01:33] <azizLIGHT> how do i remove a ppa if i never installed anything from it
[01:33] <[Saint]> Layl: it comes with everything a default install does.
[01:33] <wgolden> hkrrsx:  How was I disrespectful? you linked to a search result page
[01:33] <hkrrsx> wgolden: You could have gotten nothing. Be respectful or get out.
[01:33] <azizLIGHT> i tried "sudo ppa-purge ppa:nanoshot/ppa" but im getting " Warning:  apt-get update failed for some reason"
[01:34] <wgolden> hkrrsx: lol.
[01:34] <wgolden> you could have not replied
[01:34] <wgolden> grow up
[01:34] <Layl> swordsmanz: http://bit.ly/1I5BW3a
[01:35] <[Saint]> wgolden: you need to respect being patronized in here with what is essentially a lmgtfy link, didn't you know?
[01:35] <wgolden> [Saint]: right? :P
[01:36] <swordsmanz> Layl so what hapens if you chroot /cow
[01:36] <[Saint]> wgolden: for an actual answer - I use any of the TP-Link nano USB dongles.
[01:37] <azizLIGHT> i suggest you check some googles with "ubuntu 14.04" usb wifi adaptor problems ... whichever model shows up, dont get that one
[01:37] <Layl> "Failed to get attributes of "cow" no such file or directory"
[01:37] <[Saint]> Either the v1, or the v2, both work out of the box on recent kernels.
[01:37] <[Saint]> and they're cheap - and fast.
[01:37] <wgolden> sweet, will check it out. thx
[01:37] <azizLIGHT> [Saint]: you got a model #
[01:37] <wgolden> I have a linksys ae2500 right now, and it's a bit spotty
[01:37] <[Saint]> I'll get a part number for you, one sec hun.
[01:37] <azizLIGHT> and is it wireless n or ac
[01:37] <azizLIGHT> thank you bb
[01:38] <[Saint]> azizLIGHT: wgolden: TP-Link TL-WN725N
[01:38] <azizLIGHT> nice
[01:38] <azizLIGHT> thank you very much
[01:38] <wgolden> awesome. thank you for the useful info saint :)
[01:38] <[Saint]> Not a problem.
[01:38] <Layl> I find that very often my computers are in states of superposition where two different things will be giving conflicting results
[01:39] <azizLIGHT> seems like a lot of raspberry pi people use that one
[01:39] <[Saint]> Indeed.
[01:39] <[Saint]> 'cos it's cheap, and it "just works"
[01:39] <swordsmanz> Layl what about chroot /
[01:40] <[Saint]> I can actually get near the full 150MB/s transfer rate, too.
[01:40] <azizLIGHT> [Saint]: does it leave a little bit of silver plug visible? or silver disappears into port compeltely?
[01:40] <Layl> swordsmanz, it drops into root user
[01:40] <[Saint]> azizLIGHT: it sits flush with the USB ports in my case.
[01:40] <[Saint]> YMMV.
[01:40] <swordsmanz> Layl try doing a grub-install
[01:40] <[Saint]> azizLIGHT: in fact, it is so small, you need to be careful which ports you put it in because it can be very difficult to retrieve.
[01:40] <[Saint]> ie. in a recessed facet.
[01:40] <Layl> "install device isn't specified"
[01:41] <Layl> I probably should look into the commands I should be giving this
[01:41] <MacDada> Hi, MBP8,2 here, trying to install Ubuntu. I follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro8-2/Trusty guide. Downloaded newest 64bit Ubuntu "pc desktop" version, copied to flash drive with unetbootin app. EFI drive appears on booting, grub loads, but after "enter" to install I get "i8042: No Controller Found" and a freeze. Ideas? Extra notes: I removed the DVD drive and put my hdd in there. SSD took place of HDD. I have 2 partitions on the HDD, one of whi
[01:41] <wgolden> [Saint]:  sweet, ordered a few. super cheap. thx for the recommendation
[01:41] <azizLIGHT> [Saint]: i had this problem before i am keen of it now :D i plugged a nano usb drive to my tv and man it was a pain to get out
[01:41] <xbuntu> salve
[01:41] <swordsmanz> Layl grub-install /
[01:42] <Layl> swordsmanz: "failed to get canonical path of /cow"
[01:42] <[Saint]> wgolden: not a problem - first hand experience of wireless adapters that work painlessly can be difficult to find.
[01:42] <azizLIGHT> MacDada: just fyi, your message got cut at "I have 2 partitions on the HDD, one of whi"
[01:42] <MacDada> azizLIGHT: "I have 2 partitions on the HDD, one of which is FAT32-formatted and I want it to be replaced with Ubuntu."
[01:43] <swordsmanz> Layl mkdir /boot
[01:43] <Layl> swordsmanz, "file exists"
[01:43] <swordsmanz> Layl grub-install /boot
[01:43] <Layl> swordsmanz: "failed to get canonical path of /cow"
[01:45] <swordsmanz> Layl grub-install /dev/sda
[01:45] <Layl> I can in advance say that's not gonna work, /dev/sda doesn't exist
[01:45] <swordsmanz> Layl why is this ?
[01:46] <Layl> I can however install to the very weird path the raid array's volume is at
[01:46] <swordsmanz> yeah do that than
[01:47] <Layl> aaand same thing again, failed to get canonical path of /cow
[01:49] <swordsmanz> lay try chroot pathtoyourdrive /mnt
[01:49] <swordsmanz> Layl we are seing a pattern here tho and im guessing that it will lead back the thse same error
[01:50] <swordsmanz> so i want you to unmount everything but the live cd frist
[01:50] <Layl> alright, how do I do that
[01:52] <swordsmanz> Layl you need to unount /everything but /dev/sr0 /dev/loop0   and tmpfs
[01:53] <swordsmanz> crusialy tho you want to unmount /
[01:53] <swordsmanz> or /dev/cow
[01:53] <administrador> Hello. Anyone knows why I cant install Unetbootin? E: Package 'unetbootin' has no installation candidate
[01:53] <Layl> "df" will give me a list of what's mounted right
[01:53] <Layl> so I can see what I need to unmount
[01:54] <swordsmanz> Layl yes
[01:55] <Jeeves_Moss> is it possible to add a GIT repo to APT?
[01:55] <Bashing-om> administrador: Filename: pool/universe/u/unetbootin/unetbootin_585-2ubuntu1_amd64.deb . Do you have the universe repository enabled in sources.list ?
[01:56] <Layl> swordsmanz, trying to umount /cow is silently failing
[01:56] <Layl> when I run df again it still shows it mounted
[01:56] <administrador> Bashing-om: Yeah, all checked
[01:57] <swordsmanz> Layl what about a dismount of that drive as it is adressed by linux ?
[01:57] <Layl> what does that mean
[01:57] <swordsmanz> so dismount /dev/whateveryourraidis
[01:58] <Layl> can't find the dismount command
[01:58] <swordsmanz> unmount *
[01:58] <Layl> ah alright
[01:58] <Bashing-om> administrador: Do not know then, what returns -> apt-cache policy unetbootin <- ?
[01:59] <Layl> it's apparently not mounted
[01:59] <Layl> should I try to unmount all the partitions as well
[01:59] <swordsmanz> Layl output of df at this point
[01:59] <Layl> df still shows the same
[02:00] <administrador> Bashing-om: unetbootin:   Installed: (none)  Candidate: 585-2ubuntu1 Version table: 585-2ubuntu1 0 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/universe amd64 Packages
[02:00] <Layl> doing a quick check, none of the partitions are mounted either
[02:01]  * zegodd loves Ubuntu
[02:01] <swordsmanz> lay try mounting that driv eto mnt again
[02:01] <Bashing-om> administrador: Well, you can see it .. try : sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade , sudo apt-get install unetbootin <- .
[02:01] <Layl> still already mounted or busy
[02:02] <Layl> one thing, previously ubuntu mentioned something about the windows partition being busy and that it might have something to do with fastboot
[02:02] <swordsmanz> ok im calling retarded
[02:03] <administrador> Bashing-om: Thats what I did but got that error message. I am installing it from that link you gave me though, thx.
[02:03] <Layl> the windows partition is currently entirely inaccessable though so I do not have any way to boot into windows to solve the issue
[02:04] <swordsmanz> Layl there is ether something radically wrong with your raid setup or there is something radically wroing with the way ubuntu is handeling things right now
[02:04] <Layl> I'm gonna guess a little of column A a little of column B
[02:05] <swordsmanz> Layl my adice, redo the raid setup yourself from the bios utility, make sure everything is as it should be then try again with a fresh install of a decent distro
[02:05] <Layl> any way I could access the windows drive to get a single file that would be a pain to re-create?
[02:06] <swordsmanz> Layl yes, use a linux life usb that comes ith an ntfs driver preloaded and just pull the files off
[02:06] <Layl> getting an error that the filesystem is readonly on the windows partition
[02:07] <swordsmanz> Layl it being read only will still let you read the file to pull it out
[02:07] <Layl> yea but the file browser aint having none of it
[02:07] <Layl> and is just refusing to open it up
[02:09] <Layl> I am just gonna wipe it all once I get those files and follow the advice to just go for two flat drives with one with windows and one with ubuntu
[02:09] <swordsmanz> Layl use a distro that will set up a good softraid for you
[02:10] <Layl> I am just not going to deal with RAID at all anymore
[02:10] <Layl> I'll just get an SSD
[02:10] <swordsmanz> Layl also are you in raid 0 or raid 1 ?
[02:10] <Layl> raid 1
[02:10] <swordsmanz> so redundent ?
[02:10] <Layl> yea
[02:11] <Layl> I'm just gonna restart from livecd again to get all the mounting in order again because it's not opening anything aymore
[02:11] <swordsmanz> Layl thats best
[02:11] <swordsmanz> it should open up the files then, if not  there are other ways to get your data
[02:12] <Layl> honestly my system needed a wipe anyways
[02:12] <Anosss> #android-chat
[02:15] <Layl> I am never letting a hardware retailer set up my raid again
[02:16] <swordsmanz> Layl that is a good idea
[02:18] <Layl> it says my windows partition is in an unsafe state
[02:19] <Anosss> hello
[02:19] <swordsmanz> Layl force it to mount
[02:20] <Layl> how do I force it to mount?
[02:21] <Layl> already got it with -o ro
[02:21] <Layl> looking at my data right now, gonna get a sandwich then get to recovering
[02:23] <Layl> so after getting this all sorted out, will it be easier to install windows first then ubuntu or other way around
[02:23] <Layl> or can I get 90% performance out of windows with a VM
[02:25] <teward> Layl: what exactly are you running on Windows?
[02:25] <Layl> games mainly
[02:25] <teward> Layl: dualboot - install Windows then Ubuntu
[02:25] <teward> do custom installation of Windows, manually define the space to use, etc.
[02:25] <teward> Layl: games inside a VM are... varying in results
[02:26] <Anosss> hello
[02:26] <Anosss> i like chicken
[02:26] <Layl> teward, will it vastly simplify the setup if I have one physical drive per OS?
[02:27] <teward> Layl: i can't comment to that, unfortunately.
[02:27] <teward> I try and keep a gaming-dedicated computer around, and not mess with that
[02:27] <teward> and do most of my daily work in Linux by choice
[02:27] <Layl> well I've been trying to switch to linux for work as well
[02:28] <Layl> but this has not been going smoothly
[02:28] <Layl> since I'm about to faint I'm gonna get that sandwich now
[02:31] <Ben64> Layl: raid usually causes more issues than it solves. backup is the way to go for redundancy, imo
[02:37] <Layl> Ben64, usually all my stuff is online and I don't need anything backed up, I just had a few things on my desktop I rather have copied than have to recreate
[02:39] <Layl> yes! I managed to recover my cities skylines saves
[02:39] <Layl> the day has been saved
[02:52] <ubuntu-studio> hi
[02:52] <ubuntu-studio> why?
[02:53] <raouf> hi
[02:57] <Rohan_> Hi guys can anyone help?
[02:58] <Ben64> Rohan_: ask a question and find out
[02:59] <Rohanppdx> Hi is anyone here?
[03:05] <kaatu> hi , i installed ubuthu using usb , i cant boot it ubunthu the cpu will be on but no display i have to restart the os and select from the menu to get into the os please help
[03:05] <Layl> I would just like to come back to note, I was afraid boot repair would make the problem even worse by not recognizing that it's a raid setup
[03:05] <Layl> I was wrong
[03:06] <Layl> it just fixed all my issues in like... 2 minutes
[03:06] <Layl> including that windows 8 wasn't in the boot list
[03:06] <Layl> all worship boot repair
[03:08] <ryan_46> Layl, Don't know about worship but congrats.
[03:09] <Layl> unfortunately a new problem has appeared, that windows isn't shutting down anymore
[03:09] <Layl> uggghh
[03:09] <Layl> fix one, 2 more crop up
[03:11] <tj83> can someone help me fix my groups? I forgot to use -a when I tried to add a subgroup. now sudo doesnt work. basically wiped out my groups except the one i was adding.
[03:12] <encapsulation> has ubuntu removed the spyware yet?
[03:12] <enav> HELLO PEPS!
[03:13] <tj83> the command I entered in error was: sudo usermod -G dialout tj
[03:13] <tj83> is there not any support for ubuntu in this channel anymore? back in the day people helped people.
[03:14] <les> encapsulation: disabled by default but still present
[03:15] <kaatu> please help i have installed ubuntu 3 times , the ubuntu wont boot intolog in page at first the cpu just stays on i have to restart and select ubuntu fom grub menu ubuntu everytime to get into the os please help to resolve this problem
[03:15] <enav> Im Using Eclipse IDE on Ubuntu 14.04 for PHP development, my only problem is that after some time my Eclipse FTP support stops working (NOOP deathlock) after some random idle time, anyone have a lead to solve this problem? google is not helping much
[03:16] <kaatu> please help i have installed ubuntu 3 times , the ubuntu wont boot intolog in page at first the cpu just stays on i have to restart and select ubuntu fom grub menu ubuntu everytime to get into the os please help to resolve this problem
[03:16] <zerowaitstate> tj83: do you have a livecd?
[03:17] <zerowaitstate> tj83: alternatively, you can reboot into recovery mode
[03:17] <tj83> I can do both. I was just googling. looks like I just open up /etc/groups and add myself to admin and fix the rest after a reboot zerowaitstate
[03:18] <Layl> siiiiggggh now I get "invalid magic number" when trying to boot
[03:18] <kaatu> please help i have installed ubuntu 3 times , the ubuntu wont boot intolog in page at first the cpu just stays on i have to restart and select ubuntu fom grub menu ubuntu everytime to get into the os please help to resolve this problem
[03:18] <kaatu> can any one help me
[03:18] <kaatu> ?????
[03:18] <tj83> zerowaitstate, any tips before I give this a shot?
[03:18] <zerowaitstate> tj83: well, my advice is always do a backup before making major changes to a system, but we're kind of past that point
[03:18] <Ben64> !patience | kaa
[03:18] <Ben64> !patience | kaatu
[03:19] <zerowaitstate> tj83: i think recovery mode would be easier
[03:19] <tj83> zerowaitstate, ya Im going recovery route.
[03:19] <enav> anyone aware of the eclipse hangs FTP support after some idel time?
[03:19] <enav> idle*
[03:20] <zerowaitstate> tj83: i would make note of your fstab beforehand
[03:20] <pavlos> tj83, there is a /var/backups dir ... you may find group.bak there
[03:20] <zerowaitstate> tj83: because you'll have to remount the root filesystem once you're in
[03:21] <kaatu> ?????
[03:21] <zerowaitstate> pavlos: I actually didn't know that was there
[03:21] <tj83> pavlos, it is there. but I dont have permission to open it :( yet anyways
[03:21] <Layl> what's UDMA anyways, saw a thread that says turning it off fixes my problem
[03:21] <tj83> i will look at it once I am there pavlos ty
[03:21] <pavlos> tj83, use sudo
[03:21] <tj83> zerowaitstate, gotcha. thanks.
[03:21] <tj83> pavlos, sudo is broke
[03:22] <zerowaitstate> tj83: you should be able to do ls at least
[03:22] <zerowaitstate> tj83: what's the date on the file
[03:22] <tj83> yes I see its there in /var/backup apr 5th
[03:22] <pavlos> tj83, the perm for the /var/backups/group.bak are 600, only root can see it
[03:23] <phix> so any ideas?
[03:23] <zerowaitstate> pavlos: are those created by dpkg?
[03:23] <tj83> ok. I'm going over to recovery mode to see what I can do. thanks for the leads. be back soon to report.
[03:24] <pavlos> zerowaitstate, not sure which process ... I think every time there is a change is groups, it makes a backup
[03:26] <Layl> does anyone know how to begin about solving "invalid magic number, you need to load the kernel first"?
[03:27] <poz> is hkrrsx still here?
[03:27] <poz> layl, have you made a backup of your hard drive?
[03:27] <hkrrsx> poz,  I am
[03:27] <poz> if not, do it now.
[03:27] <Layl> poz: my windows partition is still bootable
[03:27] <Layl> the ubuntu one isn't
[03:27] <poz> i solved my problem. it was a plymouth issue
[03:27] <poz> back up your shit now.
[03:28] <poz> the last time I delt with a magic number i lost everything.
[03:28] <Layl> there's nothing on the ubuntu one I will miss
[03:28] <hkrrsx> poz, good work
[03:28] <pavlos> poz, easy with the language ...
[03:28] <poz> sorry
[03:28] <Layl> it is literally a clean install of ubuntu gnome with updates installed
[03:29] <poz> oh i see
[03:29] <poz> what type of file system?
[03:29] <Layl> ext4
[03:29] <Layl> it booted once, then thrashed grub with the updates
[03:29] <poz> your ubuntu drive has nothing else on it?
[03:29] <Layl> after grub was fixed, it now doesn't boot anymore
[03:30] <Layl> the ubuntu partition has nothing else on it but the drive has my windows partition on it
[03:31] <poz> I did not mean to sware before, but the line "bad magic number in the super block" is not my most feared line of all time.
[03:31] <Layl> it doesn't say anything about a super block
[03:31] <poz> oh okay, you need to be careful then. you might end up toasting your entire drive, not just the partition
[03:32] <Layl> well I don't know what to even do from here
[03:32] <poz> do you have any other drives with equal or more space then your current drive?
[03:32] <Layl> I do not
[03:32] <Layl> this drive is 2Tb
[03:33] <poz> humm
[03:33] <zerowaitstate> pavlos: ah, apparently debian has a script under /etc/cron.daily/passwd that does daily backups of the passwd file if they differ from the previous day
[03:33] <Layl> if I had I would have backed up the windows partition entirely, wiped the drive, undone the RAID setup and made each drive its own OS install
[03:33] <poz> are you in your windows drive right now?
[03:33] <zerowaitstate> pavlos: and group, etc
[03:33] <Layl> I'm right now in the GRUB menu
[03:33] <Layl> I'm chatting from my laptop
[03:34] <poz> oh okay, well can you boot into windows with out any issues?
[03:34] <Layl> yea
[03:34] <Layl> except that fastboot has stopped working
[03:34] <Layl> but turning that off fixes any issues that causes
[03:34] <Cerin> Can someone give me a sanity check? I just downloaded the ISO for Ubuntu 14.04, installed it onto a USB thumbdrive, booted a server from it and started the install...and then it stopped and asked me to insert the CD...which of course I don't have because I'm installing from USB. Am I going crazy? Why does Ubuntu 14.04 *require* a CD-ROM drive?
[03:34] <pavlos> zerowaitstate, great ... I remember that passwd and groups are backed up, did not remember the cron ... thx
[03:34] <poz> I think the first thing you want to identify is if it is hardware or software. however I learnt that it was hardware, far to late in the game to back up my drive. so that is a good thing to do first
[03:35] <Layl> poz, how do I identify this
[03:35] <MichaelTiebesl> Cerin:did you do a md5sum check?
[03:35] <Layl> my raid status screen shows there's nothing wrong with the array
[03:37] <Layl> darn it I just wanted to dual boot ubuntu, why does this have to be so haaaard
[03:38] <tj83> pavlos, zerowaitstate  ok got sudo back. whew! what is the standard set of secondary groups for admin users? and on a note on the mount i did have to mount -o rw,remount / to get write access. but worked
[03:38] <poz> Layl, do you still have your ubuntu stick? boot from it and mount your hard drive. then google some things about how to check ext4 file systems... I have to go becuase of work tomorrow or else I would stick around to try and help you. If it is seagate brand name, they have some windows tools called seagate tools that might help you
[03:38] <Cerin> MichaelTiebesl: A corrupted ISO would require installation from CD?!
[03:39] <Layl> I'm just gonna sleep, I've lost way too much sleep because of this and I need to get at least some
[03:39] <zerowaitstate> tj83: adm cdrom sudo plugdev lpadmin dip
[03:39] <zerowaitstate> actually i don't know what dip is
[03:39] <poz> I think I had issues with magic numbers when I was messing with usb sticks... I think I just reformatted and tryed again. if you have ntohing to lose you could reformat on your ubuntu part
[03:40] <zerowaitstate> tj83: adm is the group that log files are often saved under, so you don't have to sudo to read logs
[03:40] <zerowaitstate> tj83: other stuff is self explanatory
[03:40] <zerowaitstate> tj83: did you check out the backup in /var/backups?
[03:41] <zerowaitstate> tj83: while you were gone i googled and apparently ubuntu saves a copy of your groups/passwd/shadow file each day if the backup copy differs from the live copy
[03:41] <Cerin> Where do I even find the md5 for the current ISOs? Canonical doesn't list them on their site anywhere...
[03:41] <zerowaitstate> tj83: it's in /etc/cron.daily/passwd; the code that is
[03:41] <Flannel> Cerin: is this the server ISO?
[03:42] <Cerin> Flannel: yes
[03:42] <pavlos> Cerin, there should be a md5sum.txt
[03:42] <Bashing-om> tj83: Found: dip (Dialup IP) is a smart program that is able to set the speed of the serial device, .
[03:42] <MichaelTiebesl> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes#A14.04_LTS
[03:43] <Flannel> Cerin: So, it's looking for the repository of files on the CD to install from.  It's looking for the CDrom drive, which obviously you have none.  You should be able to point it to the repository on the USB stick (but I don't know the details, I'd have to muck around with it).  Or mount the USB as a CD or something too might work.
[03:44] <Flannel> Cerin: Another (probably easier) alternative is to get the mini.iso, which is the alternate installer (server installer) except it doesn't contain any packages (and instead tries to get them from the internet, which bypasses this problem).  You'll have to have an internet connection during the install, however.
[03:44] <zerowaitstate> tj83: oh, I left out sambashare
[03:45] <tj83> zerowaitstate, Bashing-om cool thanks got em all
[03:46] <zerowaitstate> tj83: as a bit of advice, I don't really use usermod much; I use adduser to add a user to a group
[03:46] <Cerin> yes, the checksum is fine, the installer really does need a CD, wow
[03:47] <tj83> I havent used ubuntu for a long time. was till late a fedora user. where i used root or su as needed, I just messed up. thanks for the help
[03:47] <zerowaitstate> tj83: np dude. have a good one
[03:47] <Flannel> Cerin: No, it doesn't.
[03:47] <Cerin> Flannel: yes, it does, you just said so
[03:48] <Flannel> Well, the installer expects a repository on a CD, you should be able to reconfigure it to use the repository on the USB.  I said that, not that it requires a CD.
[03:49] <Cerin> You're arguing semantics. The point is the installer won't install unless there's a CD...thus it requires a CD.
[03:49] <Cerin> That's a bug IMHO.
[03:49] <Flannel> Cerin: No.  That's not what I said.  You SHOULD be able to make it work right now.  I just don't have specifics for you on how to do that (and no easy way to try for myself at the moment).  Which is different than REQUIRING a CD.
[03:49] <Cerin> If the LiveUSB has enough packages to install but can't because the installer is hard-coded to read from a CD drive...then...jeez, that's really sloppy coding.
[03:50] <tj83> while I am here, can anyone suggest a good application for video capture from USB device.
[03:51] <Cerin> Flannel: Yes, I know, I've installed Ubuntu from only-USB before for 12.04. I don't know why they've broken it for 14.04.
[03:51] <Cerin> This is really frustrating.
[03:51] <Cerin> It's 2015 and the bleeding-edge version of Ubuntu requires a CD-ROM drive.
[03:51] <Flannel> Cerin: It's the exact same installer, so it shouldn't have broken.  Was your 12.04 install a command line install?
[03:51] <Cerin> Who even uses CDs anymore?
[03:51] <tj83> Cerin, I installed 14.04 from SD card, technically USB.
[03:52] <Cerin> Flannel: It worked with plain USB for both desktop and server installs. I think it was through the GUI.
[03:52] <Flannel> Cerin: Right, that installs using an entirely different method (ubiquity, not debian-installer).
[03:53] <Cerin> Flannel: Is there a command installer in that ISO, or do I need a different ISO? I didn't see a non-GUI option when I booted?
[03:55] <zerowaitstate> tj83: you should be able to use vlc to do it, but you probably want an actualy video editing app
[03:55] <Flannel> Cerin: No, the desktop CD (liveCD) won't install a server sysstem, only the desktop system, and it's only through the graphical installer.
[03:55] <zerowaitstate> tj83: maybe openshot?
[03:55] <Cerin> Flannel: I'm using the server ISO.
[03:56] <Flannel> Cerin: The mini ISO should work fine, with downloading packages from the internet, or this ISO should work fine, if we can figure out what you need to do to make it happier.
[03:56] <tj83> zerowaitstate, well, I am using a netbook so I need something with as little over-head as possible. to just dump raw to disk.
[03:57] <zerowaitstate> ffmpeg?
[03:57] <Cerin> Flannel: Where's the mini ISO?
[03:57] <tj83> VLC has problem with lag and audio/video sync issues I believe due to resource limitations. ffmpeg hmm... i havent looked into the ability to do it.
[03:57] <Flannel> Cerin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[03:57] <zerowaitstate> tj83: not really my area of expertism
[04:05] <zerowaitstate> g'night all
[04:05] <Cerin> Flannel: weird, Ubuntu startup disk creator won't accept the mini.iso
[04:07] <Flannel> Cerin: Right, the startup disk creator only works on the desktop ISOs (using ubiquity).  The alternate/server/mini ISOs work completely differently, and I'm pretty sure startup disk creator doesn't know what to do with them.  The miniISO page has two links on how to run it with a USB stick.  I think it's just using dd nowadays.
[04:08] <Flannel> Cerin: yeah, the link is this post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2155713&page=2&p=12698910#post12698910
[04:09] <Cerin> Flannel: It worked just fine with a server ISO...
[04:10] <bojan_> Anybody please help me my server has ubuntu OS and it is not booting to GUI but i can access the server through terminal 1 to 6..But all my  clients are working good
[04:10] <bojan_> please help me to solve this issue
[04:17] <bojan_> Anybody please help me my server has ubuntu OS and it is not booting to GUI but i can access the server through terminal 1 to 6..But all my  clients are working good...please help me to solve this issue
[04:30] <sennn> linux 4.0 release
[04:31] <Flannel> bojan_: Do you have a GUI installed on it and configured to start on boot? (server doesn't have either of those by default)
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> sennn: you mean new kernel 4.0
[04:32] <sennn> lotuspsychje, yes
[04:44] <PHPLearner> hello
[04:44] <PHPLearner> anyone here has tried install APC on ubuntu
[04:44] <PHPLearner> I am on course and I have an assignment due tomorrow
[04:45] <PHPLearner> Today professor gave us coursework than lecture
[04:45] <PHPLearner> I am in the library right now
[04:45] <PHPLearner> I tried a couple of websites follow through each instruction to the letter and got this message
[04:45] <PHPLearner> Error: cannot download "pecl/APC"
[04:45] <PHPLearner> Download failed
[04:45] <PHPLearner> install failed
[04:45] <PHPLearner> I do not know what seems to be wrong
[04:45] <PHPLearner> anyone please help
[04:45] <PHPLearner> I am on my wits end here
[04:45] <PHPLearner> thanks in advance
[04:47] <Flannel> PHPLearner: What version of Ubuntu are you on?
[04:47] <Bashing-om> PHPLearner: What command did you run to try and down load the appllication ( from where ) ?
[04:48] <gr33n7007h> PHPLearner: apt-cache search php-apc
[04:48] <Flannel> PHPLearner: Well, sudo apt-get install php-apc should work for all of them (even if it's a transitional package for some)
[04:48] <PHPLearner> php-apc - APC User Cache for PHP 5 (transitional package)
[04:48] <PHPLearner> php5-apcu - APC User Cache for PHP 5
[04:48] <PHPLearner> this is what I got after the apt-cache command
[04:49] <gr33n7007h> PHPLearner: did you try what Flannel said?
[04:49] <PHPLearner> yea I did that
[04:50] <PHPLearner> but I got the error message I sent earlier
[04:50] <PHPLearner> I got my instructions from Digital Ocean
[04:50] <PHPLearner> followed it through the letter
[04:50] <PHPLearner> but I always got this message
[04:51] <PHPLearner> could not extract the package.xml file from "/build/buildd/php5-5.5.9+dfsg/pear-build-download/APC-3.1.13.tgz"
[04:51] <PHPLearner> Download of "pecl/apc" succeeded, but it is not a valid package archive
[04:51] <PHPLearner> Error: cannot download "pecl/APC"
[04:51] <PHPLearner> Download failed
[04:51] <PHPLearner> install failed
[04:51] <PHPLearner> but I got the folder for APC-3.1.13 on my Home folder
[04:51] <gr33n7007h> PHPLearner: so did you try: sudo apt-get install php-apc ?
[04:52] <PHPLearner> yup
[04:52] <Flannel> PHPLearner: Please pastebin the output of `sudo apt-get install php-apc`  we'll take a look at what's up.
[04:52] <PHPLearner> it work for a while until I got error message I got above
[04:53] <PHPLearner> ok
[04:53] <PHPLearner> hang on
[04:54] <PHPLearner> here is the link to pastebin http://pastebin.com/s37MEK55
[04:56] <gr33n7007h> PHPLearner: So you did do: sudo apt-get install php-apc
[04:56] <Flannel> PHPLearner: That's an interesting pastebin.  But I don't see `sudo apt-get install php-apc` in there at all.
[04:56] <gr33n7007h> *didn't
[04:57] <kolbe> i have an Ubuntu 14.04 VM with a x86_64 CPU. i added a repository that has a Release file with "Architectures: amd64". when i do ''apt-get update'', the repo i added causes this message: "Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-i386/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)"
[04:57] <PHPLearner> Green I did
[04:57] <PHPLearner> this is the outcome
[04:57] <gr33n7007h> PHPLearner: well it's not in the pastebin you posted
[04:57] <PHPLearner> erwin@erwin-M720SRS:~$ sudo apt-get install php-apc
[04:57] <PHPLearner> Reading package lists... Done
[04:57] <PHPLearner> Building dependency tree
[04:57] <PHPLearner> Reading state information... Done
[04:57] <PHPLearner> php-apc is already the newest version.
[04:57] <PHPLearner> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[04:57] <kolbe> why is Ubuntu running on this VM with an amd64 CPU complaining about being unable to find i386 packages?
[04:57] <gr33n7007h> PHPLearner: well it's already installed then
[04:59] <gr33n7007h> PHPLearner: what does `dpkg -l | grep php-apc` say
[04:59] <PHPLearner> do I need to do this command: sudo pecl install apc
[04:59] <gr33n7007h> PHPLearner: no
[05:00] <PHPLearner> dpkg -l | grep php-apc
[05:00] <PHPLearner> erwin@erwin-M720SRS:~$ dpkg -l | grep php-apc
[05:00] <PHPLearner> ii  php-apc                                                     4.0.2-2build1                                       all          APC User Cache for PHP 5 (transitional package)
[05:00] <ibm> can anybody resolve my issue
[05:00] <PHPLearner> sorry for the flooding
[05:00] <PHPLearner> just need this assignment done badly
[05:01] <gr33n7007h> PHPLearner: yep you've got it installed :)
[05:01] <PHPLearner> tomorrow is the deadline
[05:01] <PHPLearner> ok so how do I know that my APC is working
[05:01] <PHPLearner> I mean how can I check
[05:01] <ibm> i get this errError getting  wom my andriod ph to ubuntu " copy file frfile: -6: Not Supported
[05:01] <PHPLearner> is there anything I can do to confirm this
[05:01] <ibm> is there anytbody
[05:02] <ibm>  i get this errError getting  wom my andriod ph to ubuntu " copy file frfile: -6: Not Supported
[05:02] <SiegeX> I just ran 'crontab -l' as root and was expecting to see entries for the /etc/crontab.XXX (daily,hourly, etc) but it says there is no crontab for root.  Where/how does Ubuntu know when to run these scripts at the appropriate time?
[05:03] <ibm>  help me resolve this errorError while copying “Visual Basic Tutorial L...oft DataGrid Control.pdf”.
[05:03] <ibm> is anybody here
[05:04] <ibm> anybody here aware of this issue
[05:04] <Flannel> PHPLearner: I'm not familiar with APC, so you may need to configure it.  However I do know that it's not currently enabled in apache.  You'll need to do that with `sudo a2enmod apcu` and then restart apache to get it to take.  Also, according to the Readme.Debian file, if you copy /usr/share/doc/php5-apcu/apc.php to some place on your webserver, you should be able to view it and get some APC-related information (which I guess would show you it's wor
[05:05] <ibm> help me
[05:05] <ibm> help me
[05:06] <PHPLearner> alright
[05:06] <ibm> plz help
[05:06] <PHPLearner> that one I am not pretty sure how to do that
[05:07] <PHPLearner> as what I read earlier apcu is for php5.4 and older
[05:07] <ibm> anybody here
[05:07] <PHPLearner> but thanks though
[05:07] <readwrite> can i boot into ubuntu with uefi turned on? does ubuntu have any signed boot managers?
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | readwrite
[05:09] <ibm> i am not able to copy files from my android phone to ubuntu ...... i get this error (Error getting file: -6: Not Supported)
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> !repeat | ibm
[05:12] <erwin> oh man
[05:12] <PHPLearner> hey fellas
[05:13] <bojan> bhangota1
[05:13] <PHPLearner> I cannot make my apache2 to restart
[05:13] <ibm> i am not able to copy files from my android phone to ubuntu ...... i get this error (Error getting file: -6: Not Supported
[05:13] <PHPLearner> If I do service apache2 restart it says failed
[05:13] <ibm> i am not able to copy files from my android phone to ubuntu ...... i get this error (Error getting file: -6: Not Supported
[05:13] <ibm> i am not able to copy files from my android phone to ubuntu ...... i get this error (Error getting file: -6: Not Supported
[05:14] <ibm> i am not able to copy files from my android phone to ubuntu ...... i get this error (Error getting file: -6: Not Supported
[05:14] <ibm> i am not able to copy files from my android phone to ubuntu ...... i get this error (Error getting file: -6: Not Supported
[05:14] <ibm> i am not able to copy files from my android phone to ubuntu ...... i get this error (Error getting file: -6: Not Supported
[05:15] <ibm> help
[05:15] <Flannel> ibm: Please stop repeating your question.  If anyone awake right know knew the answer, they'd answer you.  A reasonable amount of time to wait would be 30 minutes between questions.  In the meantime, try the forums, try search engines, etc.
[05:16] <ibm> not able to find any solution
[05:16] <ibm> Flannel:   m  sorry
[05:16] <gr33n7007h> PHPLearner: sudo apache2ctl start
[05:17] <cyclob|work> Hi guys, i'm trying to write a bash script that will change the extension of .html files to .php when they get uploaded. The file names are full length (/home/xx/xxx/x) passed by arguments
[05:17] <PHPLearner> thanks I got it
[05:18] <Ben64> cyclob|work: might want #bash then
[05:18] <cyclob|work> cool thanks
[05:20] <SiegeX> p.s. the answer to my question is that ubuntu uses '/etc/anacrontab'
[05:20] <ibm> Flannel:  can u help me
[05:20] <gr33n7007h> ibm: how are you trying to copy the files?
[05:20] <ibm> i drag n drop
[05:20] <gr33n7007h> ibm: I think you have to use adb
[05:20] <ibm> or copy paste through gui
[05:21] <ibm> gr33n7007h: how
[05:21] <PHPLearner> alright fellas I got my APC up and running
[05:21] <PHPLearner> thanks for the attention and effort you gave
[05:21] <PHPLearner> back to my assignment
[05:22] <gr33n7007h> ibm: by installing android dev kit then issuing some thing like adb push/pull local/remote
[05:23] <gr33n7007h> !adb | ibm
[05:23] <gr33n7007h> !info adb | ibm
[05:23] <PHPLearner> hello
[05:24] <gr33n7007h> ibm: sudo apt-get install android-tools-adb android-tools-fastboot
[05:24] <PHPLearner> how do i find a file apc.ini on my ubuntu linux
[05:24] <PHPLearner> do you know of any faster way
[05:24] <gr33n7007h> PHPLearner: find / -name "apc.ini"
[05:24] <ibm> gr33n7007h:  will i be able to copy through graphical interface after that
[05:25] <gr33n7007h> ibm: I think it's CLI
[05:25] <ibm> gr33n7007h: CLI means
[05:25] <gr33n7007h> ibm: command line interface
[05:26] <ibm> gregL: sir i cant locate my device through CLI .. can u tell me where it is located directory
[05:27] <ibm> ubottu: how to resolve then
[05:28] <ibm> gr33n7007h: ir i cant locate my device through CLI .. can u tell me where it is located directory
[05:28] <gr33n7007h> ibm: sudo apt-get install android-tools-adb android-tools-fastboot # first install these
[05:29] <ibm> gr33n7007h:  i have
[05:29] <gr33n7007h> ibm: open a terminal
[05:29] <ibm> gr33n7007h:  then
[05:29] <gr33n7007h> type: adb
[05:29] <PHPLearner> thanks green
[05:30] <ibm> gr33n7007h: then
[05:30] <gr33n7007h> PHPLearner: np
[05:30] <gr33n7007h> ibm: anything show up
[05:30] <bojan> bhangota:hhi
[05:30] <PHPLearner> but green I got a problem though
[05:30] <gr33n7007h> ibm: are you copying from ubuntu to android?
[05:30] <PHPLearner> after I used the command my terminal hanged up man
[05:30] <ibm> gr33n7007h: no andriod to ubuntu
[05:30] <PHPLearner> oh no
[05:31] <PHPLearner> it is searching
[05:31] <PHPLearner> sorry
[05:31] <ibm> gr33n7007h: its displays andriod debug version
[05:32] <gr33n7007h> ibm: adb pull /sdcard/whatever ~/ #something like that I can't test it
[05:32] <gr33n7007h> as i'm on live usb
[05:33] <bojan> bhangota:http://paste.ubuntu.com/10813619
[05:33] <ibm> gr33n7007h:  how can i copy thru gui
[05:34] <gr33n7007h> ibm: not sure you can because it's mbt
[05:37] <gr33n7007h> ah just found something called qtadb but it might more of a hassel then it's worth
[05:38] <gr33n7007h> ibm: can adb recognise you device?
[05:39] <ns5> is there a command to list the extra repositories that I've added?
[05:40] <sherlock_regus> msg NickServ identify hazelgrace
[05:41] <Bashing-om> ns5: Not that I am aware explicitly listing PPAs . If you have a Software Center installed -> other sources .
[05:41] <gr33n7007h> sherlock_regus: oops
[05:41] <sherlock_regus> :P
[05:41] <ns5> Bashing-om: no I'm using Ubuntu 14.04 server, there's no X
[05:42] <ns5> Bashing-om: I want to remove all extra repositories and all related keys
[05:42] <sherlock_regus> which channel to join for questions on c programming
[05:42] <gr33n7007h> sherlock_regus: #c
[05:43] <sherlock_regus> for graphic.h also
[05:43] <gr33n7007h> sherlock_regus: sure
[05:43] <Bashing-om> ns5: #rd party (ppa's) should be installed to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ -> tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* <- .
[05:43] <gr33n7007h> ns5: grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[05:45] <ns5> gr33n7007h, Bashing-om: is it ok to directly remove the source files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d ?
[05:45] <ns5> is that how we remove PPAs or extra repositories?
[05:45] <Bashing-om> ns5: Best practice is to ppa-purge .
[05:46] <Bashing-om> !ppa-purge | ns5
[05:46] <gr33n7007h> ns5: you can just remove them manually then apt-get update but ppa-purge it the proper way
[05:46] <ns5> Bashing-om, gr33n7007h: too bad, I have already done "rm -rf /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*"
[05:49] <Bashing-om> ns5: Haste makes waste . Might have a job to fix the package manager .
[05:52] <ns5> Bashing-om: thanks
[05:52] <danny_stark> al parecer es un chat global
[05:53] <Bashing-om> ns5: :) .. tkae care .
[05:53] <jamesbdev> Hi, I have two VPS servers, one has normal network performance the other one has very slow http and ftp speeds. pretty sure its a configuration issue. can someone help me ?
[05:53] <gr33n7007h> !gmtp
[05:53] <gr33n7007h> !info gmtp
[05:54] <kolbe> i have an Ubuntu 14.04 VM with a x86_64 CPU. i added a repository that has a Release file with "Architectures: amd64". when i do ''apt-get update'', the repo i added causes this message: "Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-i386/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)". why is Ubuntu running on this VM with an amd64 CPU complaining about being unable to find i386 package
[05:54] <kolbe> s?
[05:54] <danny_stark> yeah
[05:54] <gr33n7007h> ah, s/he's gone
[05:54] <jpds_> kolbe: Multiarch support.
[05:55] <kolbe> jpds_: this doesn't seem to happen on some other Ubuntu 14.04 VMs (EC2 instnaces) that I have. is this something i accidentally enabled in just one VM?
[05:55] <jpds_> kolbe: It's probably not enabled on ec2.
[05:56] <kolbe> jpds_: but by default all amd64 Ubuntu installs will have this behavior of complailing about the missing i386 repo?
[05:58] <WhyWouldIDoThat> Hi. I have a dedicated server (so it's headless). I reinstalled the machine yesterday, and forgot to copy the database. The machine only has one "drive" (mirrored raid). I want to try to recover the files. Can i set Ubuntu 12.04 to boot with the filesystem in read only mode on the next boot?
[06:00] <WhyWouldIDoThat> That is, can i set the machine to boot with filesystem in read only mode, but still access it via ssh?
[06:18] <kingBit> _
[06:26] <marvinous> Is there way to scan (not connect, only scan) SSID's of other access points in an access point, with Ubuntu?
[06:27] <dididodo> hi ... i updated from kernel 3.13.0-45 to 3.13.0-49  (on 12.04) and find that CPU temp is significantly cooler. thats nice. just for curiosity, do you have an idea what is the reason for this improvement?
[06:27] <kolbe> marvinous: "other access points in an access point"? that doesn't parse for me
[06:28] <marvinous> kolbe: I've an access point with SSID of "Router1". I want my Router1 to scan SSID's of other nearby routers. Is there a way to do it?
[06:29] <kolbe> marvinous: your access point Router1 is running Ubuntu?
[06:30] <marvinous> kolbe: Sorry for saying router, actually laptops running Ubuntu. Switching between scan mode and ap mode
[06:33] <gr33n7007h> marvinous: iwlist wlanX scan # if i'm understanding correctly
[06:34] <velho> Heyy
[06:34] <marvinous> gr33n7007h: That doesn't work in ap mode.
[06:38] <gr33n7007h> marvinous: is wifi adaptor acting as a router?
[06:39] <marvinous> gr33n7007h: Yes. I just need to only get other SSIDs nearby, not to connect them.
[06:39] <gr33n7007h> marvinous: could you just pastebin iwconfig please
[06:41] <marvinous> gr33n7007h: I'm using that wifi adaptor at the moment for internet connection, I don't think that any output would be helpful but try: http://pastebin.com/u4cMKqAH
[06:42] <gr33n7007h> marvinous: so wlan0 is the one your using as an access point but not at the min
[06:44] <marvinous> gr33n7007h: Yes.
[06:45] <Sramelyor3301> Hey guys I just installed gufw on ubuntu. I have no clue about firewall. Can someone suggest some basic settings for the firewall?
[06:45] <cfhowlett> !ufw | Sramelyor3301
[06:46] <Sramelyor3301> tnx
[06:46] <Sramelyor3301> :)
[06:49] <velho> For some odd reason vlc does prevent my laptop for going suspend
[06:49] <velho> Like i mean after the playlist is over, it should automatically go suspend in X period of time but it doesnt..
[06:53] <bojan> why my ubuntu server cant enter into GUI mode...rather all other terminals are working good
[06:53] <velho> bojan: Terminals the best
[06:53] <bojan> Even all clients are also working good...Clients are booting throgh pxe(LTSP concept)
[06:54] <ikonia> bojan: you need to explain the problem
[06:54] <velho> bojan: Why would you need gui on server?
[06:54] <ikonia> "can't enter gui mode" isn't helpful
[06:54] <ikonia> velho: many servers can run a gui for reasons,
[06:54] <cfhowlett> servers don't have gui modes
[06:54] <cfhowlett> ?
[06:54] <velho> ikonia: And reason?
[06:55] <ikonia> ease of use, gui specific apps, eg: some games servers require a gui manager, virtual node mangers
[06:55] <bojan> dudes saying my ubuntu machine as server because its centralised  computer
[06:55] <ikonia> managers
[06:55] <ikonia> bojan: it's fine - what's the actual problem you have
[06:55] <bojan> it worked good till yesterday
[06:55] <velho> Some weird ass xorg problem?
[06:55] <bojan> ikonia:;when the system boots it is hust stuck in the page of showing status for example starting DNS ok
[06:56] <ikonia> velho: please don't make unhelpful comments, let him explain the problem please
[06:56] <ikonia> bojan: so the actual machine doesn't finish booting ?
[06:56] <bojan> ikonia:But when i press ctrl+al+f1 or f2 i can work
[06:56] <ikonia> bojan: they are different VT's
[06:56] <bojan> ikonia:In terminalmode
[06:56] <ikonia> bojan: it sounds like your machine is not booting properly - so not getting to the point where X11 starts
[06:57] <ikonia> bojan: is the point it hangs at always "starting dns" type comments ?
[06:57] <bojan> ikonia:what should i donow??
[06:57] <bojan> ikonia:i said that starting dns for example
[06:58] <ikonia> is it always the same point ?
[06:58] <ikonia> or the same service it fails/hangs on starting ?
[06:58] <velho> But he is able to get into the terminal through super keys, i guess
[06:58] <bojan> ikonia:All the service saying ok
[06:58] <ikonia> by changing VT's yes
[06:58] <ikonia> bojan: they why are you saying it stops on services such as "dns"
[06:59] <bojan> ikonia:it should boot directly to GUI right??
[06:59] <ikonia> bojan: answer the questions I ask
[06:59] <bojan> ikonia;i dont understand ur question clearly
[07:00] <ikonia> bojan: when the machine boots - you say it stops on a service for example "dns" and hangs, is it always the same service or different services ?
[07:00] <gr33n7007h> marvinous: ah, seems it can't bummer
[07:00] <bojan> ikonia:no no u misunderstood it is not hanging because of services it just hangs on the page where ubuntu shows the servic status
[07:01] <ikonia> bojan: so if you do not change VT's - and you just let it boot, what happens ?
[07:01] <bojan> Ikonia:if i say startx it gives error as  "http://paste.ubuntu.com/10813885"
[07:02] <bojan> ikonia:it just hangs on that page
[07:02] <ikonia> on what page ?
[07:02] <bojan> starting stopping
[07:02] <ikonia> bojan: you're not making sense
[07:02] <ikonia> you say all the services finish, you also say it hangs
[07:02] <ikonia> which is it ?
[07:03] <bojan> ikonia:if u tellme how to share pictures i will send the screenshot so that u can understand easily
[07:03] <ikonia> I don't want a picture
[07:03] <ikonia> I just want you to tell me does it hang or not if you let it boot on it's own
[07:03] <bojan> yes it hangs
[07:04] <ikonia> right - what is the last line on the screen when it hangs ?
[07:04] <bojan> starting crash reports submission daemon  [ok]
[07:05] <ikonia> and it never gets to any sort of login prompt after that ?
[07:06] <bojan> no
[07:06] <bojan> ikonia:http://paste.ubuntu.com/10813999/
[07:06] <ikonia> ok - so that suggests to me your machine is not completing the init process
[07:06] <bojan> ikonia;what is the solution??
[07:07] <ikonia> I would look at the syslog and boot log and see a.) what starts and how b.) if any fail or warn you c.) look at the init scripts and see if there is anything after openssh sever (or the last service) and try to start it manually
[07:07] <bojan> ikonia;i dont know how to do that...pls help me to solve thisout'
[07:08] <ikonia> bojan: you're running a pxe booting LTSP server - but you don't know how to check basic logs ?
[07:08] <ikonia> I'm sorry, I don't think thats an acceptable situation to be in,
[07:08] <bojan> i can give u syslog
[07:08] <bojan> logs
[07:08] <ikonia> I don't want them
[07:08] <ikonia> you need to read them
[07:09] <bojan> ikonia;http://paste.ubuntu.com/10813619/ "syslog"
[07:09] <ikonia> bojan: I don't want them
[07:09] <bojan> ikonia:then what u want exactly??
[07:09] <ikonia> nothing
[07:12] <bojan> ikonia:suggest something
[07:13] <ikonia> I've told YOU what to do
[07:13] <cfhowlett> bojan, he did.  he suggested you read the logs.
[07:13] <bojan> cfhowlett:yes i have done it already
[07:14] <ikonia> I gave you 3 steps to do, you've done them already ?
[07:14] <bojan> ikonia:i have checked the logs and pre used commands
[07:15] <ikonia> pre used commands ?
[07:15] <bojan> but the thing is i dont know to edit init scripts
[07:15] <ikonia> you don't have to edit anything
[07:15] <ikonia> I'll step away as I don't think you're paying attention.
[07:15] <bojan> You know am new to ubuntu
[07:16] <bojan> looking for help
[07:16] <ikonia> can't be that new
[07:16] <ikonia> you've set up an LTSP server with pxe booting clients
[07:16] <bojan> yes
[07:17] <bojan> but i never faced these type of problems
[07:17] <bojan> i have studied on how to make a server using ltsp
[07:25] <bojan> ikonia:no warnings or errors in syslog and bootlog
[07:26] <bojan> ikonia:i found error in syslog as init:plymouth-stop pe-start process (2559) terminated with status 1
[07:27] <bojan> ikonia:and kernel logging (proc) stpped
[07:31] <_blitz_> Hi. I am using Ubuntu 14.10 64 bit. I find that some applications does not fit well into the default theme (eg: close, maximize and minimize are on the right side, window borders are "sharp" etc). It looks like GNOME3. Is there any way to fix this? Please see the screenshot to see an example http://pasteboard.co/2wRONPtb.png
[07:58] <aleitaan> video
[08:00] <aleitaan> load [-e] </home/aleitaan/.xchat2/xsys2.conf>
[08:00] <aleitaan> sysinfo
[08:01] <aleitaan> os[Linux 3.16.0-34-lowlatency i686] distro[Ubuntu "trusty" 14.04] cpu[4 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2450M CPU @ 2.50GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 2.10GHz] mem[Physical: 3.9GB, 74.2% free] disk[Total: 454.4GB, 12.9% free] video[Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller] ether[Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller] sound[HDA-Inte
[08:01] <aleitaan> l - HDA Intel PCH]
[08:01] <aleitaan> video[Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller @ Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family DRAM Controller]
[08:14] <`hypermist`> i need to search a folder full of files but a file for a specific string
[08:14] <`hypermist`> how do i do that
[08:21] <jmg_> can anyone help me -- why does my virtualbox keep crashing as 'aborted' when i try to boot up another os install cd in it?
[08:27] <gr33n7007h> `hypermist`: what the specific string?
[08:28] <`hypermist`> $url =  'http://192.168.1.1/index.php?call=listreceivedbyaddress&params='.$address.'&key='.$key;
[08:28] <`hypermist`>  ,etc gr33n7007h
[08:29] <gr33n7007h> `hypermist`: not sure what to make of that
[08:30] <`hypermist`> Well thats what i need to search for in the listo f files haha
[08:34] <gr33n7007h> `hypermist`: for file in *; do grep $url =  'http://192.168.1.1/index.php?call=listreceivedbyaddress&params='.$address.'&key='.$key; file; done
[08:34] <gr33n7007h> in quotes sorry
[08:34] <`hypermist`> Got it
[08:35] <gr33n7007h> `hypermist`: ok :)
[08:35] <EriC^^> `hypermist`: grep -r listreceivedbyaddress <dir to search>
[08:36] <`hypermist`> well apparently i dont have that anywhere in my files for this foldr well derp
[08:37] <`hypermist`> Meh i'll continue dis later
[08:37]  * gr33n7007h wonders why I always over complicate things
[08:38] <`hypermist`> gr33n7007h, either method always works right ?
[08:39] <EriC^^> `hypermist`: the special chars might be a problem, you'd have to escape them with \
[08:39] <EriC^^> try just searching for listreceivedbyaddress first
[08:40] <gr33n7007h> `hypermist`: what EriC^^ said
[08:46] <tos-1> `hypermist`: EriC^^'s method is preferable since it also outputs the file where a match was found.
[08:46] <tos-1> *the filename
[08:47] <chuckboris> has anyone had the kernel 4.0 operating? The finished today!
[08:48] <tos-1> chuckboris: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[08:49] <tos-1> That should usually work; however, as always it comes without any warranty. :)
[08:52] <tos-1> Especially don't assume it goes without problems (because of ABI and API changes). I think one example which will break is virtualbox when trying to install newer kernels to 14.04.
[08:57] <`hypermist`> yea i know tos-1 i used it haha
[08:57] <`hypermist`> But apparently i dont have that in my files anywhere
[08:57] <`hypermist`> xD
[09:18] <bojan> why my /boot is having lot of images like this...How to clear that because my /boot is having only 100 MB and already 93 MB is gone..http://paste.ubuntu.com/10814541/
[09:20] <lotuspsychje> bojan: maybe bleachbit can clear it out
[09:21] <lotuspsychje> !info bleachbit | bojan
[09:21] <ikonia> you dont need any app
[09:21] <ikonia> open the package manager and remove the kernel packages you don't need
[09:21] <bojan> ikonia:sorry i was in tension at that time and now the problem solved..
[09:22] <bojan> ikonia:the problem which i asked is some mismatch of xserver and i installed ubuntu-desktop..Its working good now
[09:24] <bojan> lotuspsychje:Why do i need many versions of images in /boot??
[09:24] <hiexpo> hola ikonia
[09:24] <bojan> one or two is enough right??
[09:25] <ikonia> bojan: you can have as many/few as you feel safe
[09:27] <bojan> ikonia:ok
[09:37] <Guest43567> Helloo, I'm using Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS, and I can't seem to start a custom X session (Using the .xinitrc / .xsession files)
[09:38] <MP24> There is no option in the GDM "session" dropdown- only specific options like "ubuntu" and "Xfce"
[09:38] <MP24> I compiled my own WM so I want to start it from .xinitrc
[09:40] <Elench> MP24: out of curiosity, which WM?
[09:40] <MP24> Elench: xmonad, but I'm not using the stock ubuntu package (I'm using the cabal version)
[09:41] <OerHeks> MP24, GDM is old, ubuntu uses lightdm ..
[09:41] <MP24> OerHeks: oh I just assumed it was gdm :-)
[09:41] <MP24> is that the graphical login, right?
[09:41] <Elench> Yeah, I'm using StumpWM, you need to add a .desktop file
[09:41] <OerHeks> sudo service lightdm start
[09:42] <Elench> MP24: take a look at /usr/share/xsessions/
[09:42] <Elench> Oh, or not
[09:43] <MP24> oops, sorry I was disconnected
[09:43] <Elench> MP24: take a look at /usr/share/xsessions/
[09:44] <Elench> That's where the login thingie looks for options
[09:44] <MP24> Elench: Right, there are only three
[09:44] <Elench> Add another
[09:44] <MP24> ubuntu.desktop, xfce.desktop, xubuntu.desktop
[09:44] <MP24> Elench: unfortunately I can't, I don't have root
[09:44] <MP24> (it's a work machine)
[09:44] <Elench> Ah, sorry
[09:44] <MP24> Is it impossible to do without root?
[09:45] <Elench> Then my advice is basically useful, but kudos for choosing a  better than average WM :þ
[09:45] <MP24> haha thanks :p
[09:46] <MP24> I can request one to be added from an admin, does "Exec" work with a full path like /home/me/bin/xmonad ?
[09:46] <Elench> WFM with /home/Elench/versioncontrolled/stumpwm/stumpwm
[09:46] <tos-1> MP24: Of course.
[09:47] <MP24> i'll probably just do that then!
[09:47] <MP24> is there a way to make "use .xinitrc" an option though?
[09:47] <OerHeks> MP24, without root priv, you cannot do anything
[09:48] <MP24> OerHeks: OK, thanks!
[09:48] <MP24> saves me the time haha
[09:50] <MP24> cheers guys!
[10:02] <sudomarize> i'm getting a lot of artifacts on my screen (not sure if this is the right term actually, basically there are faint impressions from other windows on my screen), anyone know what could be causing this?
[10:02] <sudomarize> it's on my thinkpad x240, thought it might be a distro issue, but i changed from 14.04 to elementaryos (ubuntu-based) and the problem still persists.
[10:03] <sudomarize> if anyone has any idea of what could be causing this issue please let me know
[10:03] <OerHeks> sudomarize, did you install any prop driver?
[10:03] <trijntje> sudomarize: bad cable can give shadows
[10:03] <sudomarize> OerHeks: what's a prop driver?
[10:04] <OerHeks> proprietary
[10:04] <sudomarize> trijntje: ah so it's a problem with the machine?
[10:04] <sudomarize> OerHeks: er nope haven't done that
[10:04] <sudomarize> didn't realize there were any
[10:05] <huig> clear
[10:05] <OerHeks> type driver is dash, or whatever elementary uses ..
[10:05] <trijntje> sudomarize: ah, on a laptop, that makes it hard to check. Can you see if you get the same issue in the bios? Faint shadows etc? If so i'd say its the connection between the screen and the video card
[10:06] <sudomarize> trijntje: they appear when i turn on the laptop and i need to enter my passphrase to decrypt my /home folder (not sure if this is bios)
[10:07] <huig> hello, i have a pc with two users, lets say user1 and user2. when i connect an usb storage device to the pc, how it is decided where to mount it?how could i achieve to have read access from both user1 and user2
[10:07] <trijntje> no, the bios is before that, you should probably check your laptop manual to see how you can get there, its different for every pc
[10:07] <OerHeks> huig, normally it mounts under /media/
[10:08] <OerHeks> huig, read access, what type of partition is on that usb?
[10:08] <huig> OerHeks: yeah, but with user1 i can access it but without user2 i can't
[10:08] <sudomarize> trijntje: when i was running on 14.04, i don't recall seeing the shadows in BIOS then, only after exiting BIOS
[10:09] <EriC^^> huig: you can mount it manually somewhere else
[10:09] <EriC^^> huig: is it ntfs fat ?
[10:09] <huig> EriC^^: yeah
[10:10] <huig> the problem is i am ssh-ing the pc, and i can access it with user2, don't have root privilegues. i am trying to access the usb that it is at /media but i don't have access to it with user2
[10:10] <EriC^^> huig: mount it with the options you want
[10:11] <EriC^^> huig: you'll have to remount it
[10:11] <EriC^^> huig: do you have access to user1?
[10:11] <huig> EriC^^: no, only user2
[10:12] <OerHeks> so ssh has no access to /media/ .. of to the usb ... ?
[10:12] <OerHeks> of-or
[10:13] <OerHeks> (which is a good thing i guess)
[10:13] <gryzor> hi. How can I upgrade a 12.10 installation? do-release-upgrade fails stating my ubuntu installation is unsupported, which is the reason why I'm trying to upgrade...
[10:13] <huig> OerHeks: i tried doing it locally. i create a user and then opened another tty to login with that user. and i didn't have access with that user to /media
[10:13] <huig> s/create/created
[10:14] <OerHeks> gryzor, that would be a long long way > 12.10 - 13.04 - 13.10 -  14.04 lts  ...
[10:14] <OerHeks> !eolupgrade
[10:14] <gryzor> OerHeks: that's fine
[10:14] <gryzor> thanks :)
[10:14] <EriC^^> huig: /media/<user> can only be accessed by <user>
[10:14] <OerHeks> gryzor, see the eolupgrades url, howto all old-releases in your sourceslist
[10:14] <EriC^^> huig: you'd have to add another user to as an ACL
[10:15] <huig> EriC^^: but why is that usb mounted in /media/user1 and it isn't mounted at /media/user2?
[10:15] <EriC^^> huig: cause gvfs automounts it under the user that's logged on
[10:16] <huig> EriC^^: and what if the usb is connected before an user loggs?
[10:16] <EriC^^> it won't automount
[10:17] <EriC^^> if it's in /etc/fstab with auto as an option it would automount when you boot the pc
[10:17] <huig> EriC^^: so if the user connects the usb before it loggs, could i ssh with user2 and mount it to /media/user2?
[10:18] <gerry_> ciao.. sto usando una macchina virtuale creata con virtualbox nella quale ho installato xubuntu 14.04
[10:19] <gerry_> chromium con verisione aggiornata alla 41 non funziona più bene...
[10:19] <OerHeks> gerry_, this channel is english only please
[10:19] <OerHeks> !it | gerry
[10:19] <EriC^^> huig: try udisksctl mount -b /dev/sdxY
[10:20] <gerry_> hi.. I installed xubuntu 14.04 on a vm created  with virtualbox..
[10:20] <huig> EriC^^: right now i can't try it
[10:20] <gerry_> if update chromium at version 41.x stops to work right
[10:21] <gerry_> anybofy knows something about this problem?
[10:21] <huig> EriC^^: but it is possible to mount it to my user without being root?
[10:21] <EriC^^> yes, using udisksctl
[10:22] <huig> EriC^^: so althought it will mount to /media/usr1, i could access /dev/sdxY and mount it to wherever i want withouth being root?that would be just great!!
[10:22] <EriC^^> and udisksctl unmount -b /dev/sdxY to unmount
[10:22] <EriC^^> ( unmount not umount )
[10:23] <EriC^^> huig: it will mount to whatever user runs the command
[10:23] <huig> EriC^^: so tu sum up, /dev has read access to all users?
[10:24] <gerry_> it seems that chromium, from a certain version, stops to work properly.. but just on vitualbox machine
[10:27] <EriC^^> huig: ah no
[10:27] <OerHeks> gerry_, did the install give any error?
[10:27] <OerHeks> gerry try in terminal: sudo apt-get install -f # to see if this corrects problems
[10:28] <chotaz`w> I have to run "sudo lsusb" everytime I bootup so my USB ports actually start working. How can I explain and fix this?
[10:28] <EriC^^> huig: i think your user has to have sudo for it to work over ssh
[10:28] <EriC^^> just tried it out
[10:28] <huig> EriC^^: tried to do it locally. but udisksctl -b mount /dev/sdb1 gived me an error: is already mounted at ...
[10:29] <gerry_> installation with ubuntu center.. no errors
[10:29] <EriC^^> yeah that means it's already mounted
[10:29] <padler> citrix
[10:29] <huig> EriC^^: so it can't be mounted twice?
[10:29] <gerry_> ok.. i try...
[10:30] <EriC^^> huig: are you using ssh?
[10:30] <EriC^^> cause it won't work
[10:30] <huig> EriC^^: no, only tried to do it locally
[10:31] <EriC^^> huig: unmount it first
[10:31] <huig> EriC^^: the trick if the other user has to see it mounted too haha
[10:32] <EriC^^> i dont follow
[10:33] <EriC^^> huig: am i helping you spy on someone or get their stuff?
[10:34] <huig> EriC^^:  hahaha no, if not i couldn't ssh that pc. i am doing it just for fun with my laptop and pc
[10:35] <gerry_> no.. executing apt-get install -f don't correct the problem
[10:35] <gerry_> I execute atp-get autoremove too.. but problem still exist
[10:38] <OerHeks> gerry_, any diskspace left on that VM ?
[10:38] <OerHeks> gerry_, tries to restart the VM ?
[10:38] <OerHeks> tried*
[10:40] <gerry_> restart done.. but doesn't work... it's a bug on virtualbox!? I think... in a vmware machine chromium works fine
[10:41] <gerry_> in my virtualbox vm it works until 40.x version..
[10:43] <hateball> gerry_: What does "stop working properly" even mean? Does the application start at all?
[10:43] <amro_> hello
[10:44] <gerry_> no.. chromium starts.. but if I try to change orders of tabs (for example) I can't do it anymore...
[10:45] <g105b> Hi, how do I pin a terminal-based application to the launcher, so it behaves as a self-contained app rather than interacting with my other terminal windows?
[10:45] <gerry_> if I open developer tools with ctrl+shift+i I can't resize area
[10:45] <gerry_> there's many problems
[10:47] <Hackwar> hi folks, can I shutdown a server while it is reshaping a RAID? I've been changing my RAID1 to a RAID5 with 2 disks and then added 2 additional disks. Right now it is reshaping that RAID and says it will take 2 more days until everything is fine again. After that, I will extend the filesystem on that RAID. In any case, I'm expecting additonal RAM today and wanted to install it asap.
[10:47] <OerHeks> Hackwar, no, let it run
[10:47] <Hackwar> So, can I shut down the server to do that and then fire it up again and it will continue at that point in time or does it start all over again?
[10:47] <Hackwar> ok
[10:48] <ika> hello everyone i've installed ubuntu yesterday ... and just for fun createt a secound user and got a problem now when i log in with the new user and want to use the terminal i cant use the terminal history with the arrow keys ... if i press one of the key it writes signs like: [[A; or something like that gow can i fix that? =)
[10:48] <EriC^^> ika: how did you create the user?
[10:48] <EriC^^> useradd?
[10:48] <ika> yes
[10:48] <Kaby> hello guys i need an advice which is the best antivirus for ubuntu 14.10
[10:48] <EriC^^> ok, adduser is more thorough and interactive
[10:48] <OerHeks> !antivirus
[10:49] <EriC^^> ika: or else you need to set the shell for the user and create the user with a home dir
[10:49] <Kaby> OerHeks, so ubuntu don't need antivirus ?
[10:50] <OerHeks> Kaby, standard updated clamTK should do fine. for ubuntu.
[10:50] <Kaby> oh ok
[10:51] <ika> i createt the user with a home directory but got an error message when i tried to make his the bash but got an error ...
[10:51] <ika> *his shell the bash
[10:51] <OerHeks> Kaby, but if you really want it, check out that page
[10:51] <Kaby> OerHeks, i am downloading it from download center now
[10:51] <EriC^^> ika: chsh <user> -s /bin/bash
[10:51] <EriC^^> something like that
[10:51] <ika> ok thy iĺl try =)
[10:52] <zenguy> Should i get these two low latency .deb files while installing a new kernel ? is it necessary ?(linux-headers-low latency.deb and linux-image-low latency.deb)
[10:53] <OerHeks> zenguy, normally no. see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/RealTimeKernel
[10:54] <zenguy> OerHeks: ok thank you
[10:55] <ika> hmh still not working :/  tried chsh ika -s /bin/bash and same with sudo i didnt get an error message but still cant use the arrow keys .... do i need to restart ubuntu before it has an effect maybe?
[10:58] <tj83> anyone familiar with avconv options? I want to record from a v4l2 source and I'm able to do so. When I look at the verbose output I see that its in the wrong size 720x480 not 640x480 and it seems YUV420p which is a PAL standard? It should be NTSC
[11:02] <gfodranoel> Good Morning!
[11:03] <tj83> g'morning gfodranoel
[11:04] <gfodranoel> where are you speaking from, tj83?
[11:05] <tj83> Georgia, US
[11:05] <murcha> hi
[11:05] <gfodranoel> Very good. Nice to meet you!
[11:06] <gfodranoel> Hi Murcha! Nice to meet you!
[11:06] <tj83> having morning coffee, trying to figure out some of these avconv options for video capture.
[11:06] <murcha> i run an script with &, now the scripts keeps running and sending me emails. how should i stop the script
[11:08] <gfodranoel> murcha: you know the script name?
[11:08] <tj83> murcha, maybe it set up a chron task? is it a set time interval?  look in /etc/chrontab and other cron files in /etc?
[11:09] <murcha> gfodranoel: i created the script my self
[11:09] <tj83> crontab* not chron coffee not working yet.
[11:09] <murcha> gfodranoel: it is a shell script
[11:10] <murcha> tj83: i just check crontab -l not found there
[11:11] <gfodranoel> murcha: ps -ef | grep script_name
[11:11] <gfodranoel> murcha: take the PID number and then use the command
[11:11] <gfodranoel> murcha: kill pid_number
[11:11] <gfodranoel> murcha: it is a shell script
[11:12] <gfodranoel> murcha: it is a shell
[11:12] <gfodranoel> murcha: it is a terminal
[11:12] <gfodranoel> i'm sorry
[11:12] <murcha> gfodranoel: it is a shell scrip, inside a loop that runs every 10 second. then i used ./alet.sh & to run the command
[11:13] <murcha> gfodranoel: now it runs all the time
[11:13] <tj83> https://0paste.tk/7440  murcha can you show us the script? that might help figure out what is happening.
[11:13] <gfodranoel> murcha: do it then
[11:14] <gfodranoel> murcha: ps -ef |grep alet
[11:14] <gfodranoel> murcha: use the terminal (xterm)
[11:14] <gfodranoel> murcha: in root mode
[11:16] <cyberbrai> hot to copy and paste the file through ssh in ubuntu 14.04lts
[11:16] <cyberbrai> hot = how
[11:16] <murcha> gfodranoel: i did ps to find the id, and then killed the pid. But still i get the emails
[11:17] <somekindofwizard> I have a problem. Whenever I need to enter my password to get root previliges the window for entering your password fails to appear. I am running Ubuntu Server with a KDE GUI.
[11:17] <cyberbrai> any help
[11:17] <gfodranoel> murcha: may still be with exit status
[11:18] <gfodranoel> murcha: or let's say, is still in the queue
[11:18] <tj83> cyberbrai, man scp
[11:18] <cyberbrai> tj83 yes scp
[11:19] <murcha> gfodranoel: will it remove from queue or should i do an action to remove it from the queue?
[11:19] <gfodranoel> murcha: you can verify that the process is still there?
[11:19] <tj83> cyberbrai, command "man scp" will give you all the info
[11:19] <cyberbrai> I've tried
[11:19] <cyberbrai> scp <file> <username>@<IP address or hostname>:<Destination>
[11:20] <gfodranoel> murcha: he at some point will leave all of the line
[11:21] <gfodranoel> murcha: try using the command: kill -9 pid
[11:21] <cyberbrai> tj83 just for example send any command
[11:21] <tlkr> cyberbrai, that 's correct, what error are you getting?
[11:21] <tj83> cyberbrai, its been a while, but I believe the user@ip first then the file. check http://www.binarytides.com/linux-scp-command/
[11:22] <murcha> gfodranoel: i did but it closed even my ssh connection
[11:22] <gfodranoel> cyberbrai: try using -> scp -rp file user@ip:/destination
[11:23] <cyberbrai> gfodranoel wait i tried
[11:24] <geirha> cyberbrai: if the destination support sftp, then you can connect with the gui file browser (nautilus) which will allow you to drag and drop files to and from
[11:24] <gfodranoel> cyberbrai: which the message that tells you to
[11:24] <guite> Hi all. Is there anyone here who succeeded in running an lxc container of a debian/jessie on an ubuntu 14.04 ?
[11:24] <guite> I have a many problems I can’t solve
[11:25] <cyberbrai> gfodranoel  on first time i am not understand the format
[11:25] <gfodranoel> cyberbrai: ok
[11:25] <guite> first one being => http://pastebin.com/LNjEYXyD
[11:25] <cyberbrai> gfodranoel  i have a file in downloads and i want to copy and paste in  another user  home
[11:26] <gfodranoel> cyberbrai: scp -rp <file> <username>@<IP address or hostname>:/home/name
[11:27] <gfodranoel> cyberbrai: this command is only for sending files to remote destinations
[11:27] <cyberbrai> ok
[11:28] <gfodranoel> cyberbrai: the file copy will be from one machine to another different?
[11:28] <murcha> gfodranoel: it didn't help stoping the emails
[11:29] <geirha> murcha: Could you show the script that's "running out of control"?
[11:30] <gfodranoel> murcha: which the sending mail service being used? you can tell me?
[11:30] <gfodranoel> murcha: we will try to stop the service
[11:30] <geirha> It also matters if it was run as a script, or a loop run in an interactive session
[11:32] <murcha> geirha: http://pastebin.com/Tc66Ja25
[11:32] <geirha> murcha: there's no loop there
[11:32] <murcha> gfodranoel: i deleted the loop
[11:33] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:33] <murcha> geirha: i deleted the loop
[11:33] <geirha> murcha: So there's no way to see what the code running now looks like?
[11:34] <gfodranoel> murcha: no use to clean the script loop
[11:34] <gfodranoel> murcha: if he is still with the active process, will not take effect
[11:34] <murcha> geirha: is it running from  some crap
[11:36] <geirha> murcha: doesn't help much :/
[11:41] <geirha> Without seeing the while loop you used, it's hard to know what process(es) to kill
[11:42] <geirha> (there's also a big difference in running said while loop from a script and from an interactive shell session)
[11:44] <Eightynine> Hi. Can anyone please help me to install and configure any window manager to make my system lightweght, fast and usable?
[11:45] <gfodranoel> Eightynine: What is your Linux distro?
[11:46] <geirha> or rather, what Ubuntu release
[11:46] <Eightynine> It was Ubuntu LTS with Gnome, but I changed my DE to MATE with Uubuntu MATE look and feel.
[11:47] <bazhang> lubuntu-desktop package Eightynine
[11:47] <bazhang> !lubuntu | Eightynine
[11:47] <brainvvash> Eightynine: MATE is not lightweght, fast and usable?
[11:49] <Eightynine> I installed LXDE too but I don't like it. It looks old and I don't like it's menu. MATE consumes 400-600 MB RAM and sometimes it's menu lags. Also it's menu is overloaded with options.
[11:49] <gfodranoel> Eightynine: There is also Xubuntu which refers to XFCE. Very light and beautiful. I believe that will provide you a great experience: http://xubuntu.org/
[11:50] <Eightynine> Thunar is totally unusable, and also fonts were small, rendering was bad. Don't know why.
[11:52] <bazhang> whats the ram and cpu on the Eightynine
[11:53] <bazhang> also what video card Eightynine
[11:53] <hydrajump> hi if APT has an older version of a package and a newer version is available but only as source. Is there a way to see how the package was built, so I can build a newer one using the source?
[11:53] <Eightynine> Phenom II X4 B93, 4 GB DDR3-1333, Radeon 6750
[11:54] <hydrajump> the package I'm looking at is postfix. In APT the version is 2.x.x and the latest stable version is 3.0.0.
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> hydrajump  are you a developer?
[11:54] <Eightynine> It seems like brightness is too high, also pixels are very big, in some places they are just huge.
[11:54] <bazhang> Eightynine, that card is very old, what driver are you using
[11:55] <hejsan> Hello, why does top/uptime show I have 15 users but I'm the only user and w only shows two sessions from me?
[11:55] <bazhang> additionally Eightynine what version of ubuntu is this
[11:56] <Eightynine> Open-source driver. I hate AMD proprietary drivers. I already told that Ubuntu LTS
[11:56] <bazhang> lsb_release -a in terminal Eightynine
[11:56] <Eightynine> You need version? It's 14.04.2
[11:57] <bazhang> also Eightynine  please pastebin your sources.list
[11:58] <Eightynine> I expected wonderful fonts and rendering from Ubuntu, that's how it's famous(sorry, my english is not so good, don't know how to tell you to make you understand what I mean)
[11:59] <Guest-5979> hi everyboy
[11:59] <OerHeks> Eightynine, have you tried a different font?
[11:59] <bazhang> Eightynine, did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras yet, thats where the wonderful fonts come from
[12:00] <gfodranoel> Eightynine: Do you speak Portuguese?
[12:00] <Eightynine> They were pretty good in Gnome but fonts in panel was not so good. And in LXDE and XFCE they are not so good at all. I'll try to install those extras
[12:01] <Eightynine> Not at all. Only russian. But on russian channel people reply long
[12:01] <bazhang> Eightynine, thats the very first thing you should install on a new ubuntu install
[12:02] <Eightynine> Thanks. What about my graphics card I'm planning to replace it with GT740. What can you say about this?
[12:02] <bazhang> Eightynine, look online and see about ubuntu/linux support first, before buying any hardware at all
[12:03] <BluesKaj> eilSeq, nvidia has fewer problems with linux drivers than amd/ati
[12:03] <bazhang> BluesKaj, what about that particular card,. he should websearch first
[12:04] <BluesKaj> bazhang, you're right of course, but statement was a generalm observation
[12:04] <BluesKaj> my statement that is
[12:05] <BluesKaj> sorry eilSeq , wrong nick
[12:05] <Minus_> hi
[12:10] <Minus_> i need some help: i'm trying to install ubuntu-desktop with personalization made with kickstart and debconf. In the debconf and kickstart file there is the initial user name and encrypted password, but when i install ubuntu 14.04 LTS, the program always ask me password
[12:11] <Minus_> i try to use my files with ubuntu-server, and everything is ok
[12:11] <Minus_> it's nos works with ubuntu-desktop
[12:12] <Layl> me again, so the story so far, trying to install ubuntu in dual boot on fastraid, did this so far: gparted to set up partitions -> install with manually setting the partitions in the installer -> ubuntu works but windows is gone from grub -> update ubuntu -> nothing works, grub starts into console -> run boot-repair -> now only windows boots and ubuntu gives "invalid magic number"
[12:12] <Layl> *fakeraid
[12:12] <Layl> not fastraid
[12:12] <Layl> certainly not fastraid
[12:14] <Layl> anyone got any tips on what to do from here to get ubuntu running again?
[12:14] <megapixel> How to restore userprofile after reinstall ubuntu?
[12:14] <megapixel> Dont format /home
[12:14] <megapixel> nickname 1-1
[12:15] <bennie> groeten bennie ha  ha
[12:18] <Eightynine> I'm here again.
[12:18] <Tester> Hii all
[12:18] <Minus_> someone can help me for installing ubuntu-desktop 14.04 LTs with kickstart ou debconf. The probleme is that even the encrypt password is on the config file the interface ask me inital use name and his password. Thank you for your help
[12:18] <Eightynine> Hi Tester.
[12:19] <Tester> i am not getting side menu after doing startx
[12:19] <Eightynine> What DE do you use?
[12:19] <Tester> Eightynine: how to know that? well i am using ubuntu  14.04
[12:20] <OerHeks> Tester, uh oh, startx is depreciated, it is "sudo service lightdm start "now
[12:20] <Eightynine> If you are using XFCE, try startxfce4
[12:20] <Tester> no i am not using xface
[12:20] <Tester> i guess it is gnome
[12:20] <Tester> I am not sure
[12:21] <Eightynine> I didn't know about that. Could this be a cause of "Can not connect to X Server"?
[12:21] <Tester> OerHeks: but previously it was working fine
[12:21] <OerHeks> Tester, doubtfull.
[12:21] <Tester> No x server connects fine
[12:21] <Layl> any information on how to fix the "invalid magic number, you need to load the kernel first" problem?
[12:21] <Eightynine> I don't know how to check DE.
[12:22] <Tester> Eightynine: as i do startx i get my wallpaper  but no launch bar (side menu)
[12:23] <Tester> OerHeks: is it gone after update?
[12:23] <brainvvash> Tester: why don't you start the session via the login greeter?
[12:24] <Eightynine> I think you're using either Gnome or Unity.
[12:24] <Tester> yes
[12:24] <Tester> i got it by renaming ~/.config/dconf/user
[12:24] <Eightynine> What about my graphics and font rendering issues and menu lags in MATE?
[12:25] <Smoth> Hi guys, I'd like to make a popular freeware application (teampseack3) easily avabile for ubuntu via a package, is there any way to do that whitout having to pay? Let's say I made a package that works the way flashplugin-installer does, that could fit into launchapd?
[12:25] <brainvvash> Eightynine: did you ask in the MATE channel?
[12:25] <Smoth> teamspeak*
[12:25] <OerHeks> Tester, login with tty2 ( ctrl alt F2) and 'rm -rf ~/.Xauthority'  and reboot. this might fix your issue that startx created.
[12:28] <OerHeks> Smoth, there is an reason why teamspeak does not provide packages in a PPA on launchpad, ask them why.
[12:28] <OerHeks> Smoth, probably because they do not give the sourcecode for review.
[12:28] <Smoth> OerHeks: I'm curious
[12:29] <Smoth> OerHeks: that's well known
[12:36] <newbnewb> anyone home?
[12:36] <newbnewb> i could use some help
[12:37] <teward> newbnewb: just ask your real question and address the channel
[12:38] <IncredibleHighIQ> how to list top 100 channels in x-chat?
[12:38] <IncredibleHighIQ> or whatever client
[12:38] <MonkeyDust> newbnewb  let's hear it
[12:38] <newbnewb> teward I don't use IRC much at all...does "address the channel" just mean ask in general or is their some etiquette?
[12:38] <OerHeks> IncredibleHighIQ, go into the menu: server: list of channels
[12:38] <MonkeyDust> IncredibleHighIQ  ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:38] <OerHeks> IncredibleHighIQ, then select the number row, easy peasy
[12:39] <Layl> Could I get some help? My ubuntu partition fails to boot
[12:39] <Layl> it gives me "invalid magic number, you need to load the kernel first"
[12:39] <Layl> I've already run boot-repair, it got me from not showing anything in grub at all to this
[12:40] <newbnewb> ok thanks....I just installed Ubuntu 14.04 and am trying to find a way to show all apps? I am using Unity...and it only show 5 or 6 apps....some like firefox are only on the dock...I googled but didn't see a working solution
[12:40] <newbnewb> im sorry for the ignorance but the unity icon top left...cant remember its name...when I click it I only see a few apps....show more doesn't show all
[12:40] <OerHeks> newbnewb, open dash, and select the white "A" icon on the bottom
[12:41] <badbodh> layl did you select one of the partitions to write mbr? during install that is...
[12:41] <newbnewb> ah the software center?
[12:41] <Layl> badbodh: I did, it wrote to the correct partition for my setup
[12:41] <Layl> which was /dev/mapper/somethingsomething_Volume01
[12:41] <newbnewb> is there a way to see them all in one click? when i open the dash it defaults to "applications"....but doesnt show all
[12:42] <OerHeks> newbnewb, then see right top corner 'filter results' and click on that
[12:42] <newbnewb> the
[12:42] <bijoo_> Hi DPKG says oracle-java7 uninstalled ; but in fact it's installed manually in the right location; how can I make DPKG "aware" of that so it shows it's installed?
[12:42] <badbodh> layl that isn't how it shows on the installer. There you choose sda,sdb etc for mbr
[12:42] <badbodh> is it a fresh install or old?
[12:42] <newbnewb> OerHeks I see that and Applications is selected in the filter
[12:42] <Layl> badbodh, yea it doesn't for me because I've got a weird fakeraid setup
[12:42] <Layl> it's a fresh install on an next to an existing windows install
[12:43] <newbnewb> but for some reason not all show
[12:43] <OerHeks> !java | bijoo_ read this page howto select your java version
[12:43] <Layl> installing grub to /dev/sda will not boot into grub at all, installing to that one in mapper will boot to grub
[12:44] <newbnewb> Help, thunderbird, videos, texteditor,calculator and rhythmbox are all that show....firefox and libreoffice are in the dock
[12:44] <badbodh> layl oh, dunno much about fakeraid sorry
[12:44] <Layl> I can currently still choose and boot into windows, just the ubuntu install doesn't work
[12:44] <Layl> I do not think it is a problem with fakeraid anymore
[12:44] <badbodh> if your windows bootloader shows, it means grub wasn't installed correctly
[12:44] <Layl> no, windows shows in the grub menu
[12:44] <Layl> it doesn't immediately go to windows
[12:45] <badbodh> oh kk
[12:45] <Layl> as well, I've previously been able, after install, to boot into ubuntu
[12:45] <Layl> but after running updates and restarting, it refused to boot anymore
[12:45] <Layl> it showed me a grub bash shell instead
[12:45] <pikaciu> Layl try installing grub from windows
[12:45] <Layl> so after running boot repair from a livecd, I'm now in this situation, where windows and ubuntu show in grub
[12:45] <Layl> but ubuntu doesn't start
[12:45] <sudomarize> what does "sudo apt-get install -y" do?
[12:45] <newbnewb> when I open the dash it defaults with the Home icon highlighted at bottom and Applications the only category....but not all apps show despite selecting for it in the filter
[12:46] <sudomarize> the "-y" part specifically
[12:46] <ikonia> sudomarize: nothing as you have not specified a package
[12:46] <Layl> pikaciu, I think grub is installed fine, it's starting up without issues
[12:46] <ikonia>  -y is auto respond with "yes"
[12:46] <sudomarize> ikonia: thanks
[12:46] <OerHeks> sudomarize, nothing without the name of a package ( -y will answer y on all questions)
[12:46] <newbnewb> can someome help me in private? I am getting overwhelmed by the messages....new to this
[12:47] <cryptic0> I added a new path to a binary in /etc/environment, then logged out and back in, but the changes aren't taking effect.
[12:47] <cryptic0> Also tried source /etc/environment in vain
[12:47] <badbodh> layl yeah grub is fine, but it cannot detect where your ubuntu root partition is
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> newbnewb  if you go private and no solution is found, then you would have to start over, explaining everything
[12:47] <bijoo_> OerHeks: already ran  update-alternatives; thanks for suggestion, though issue's still there: how to make 'dpkg' aware of manually installed package
[12:47] <Layl> badbodh, should I run an update-grub2 or won't that do much in this case?
[12:48] <newbnewb> ok monkeydust....just hard to keep up...I am old and not good at this stuff
[12:48] <badbodh> Layl yeah do that see what error ,if any, it throws up
[12:48] <pikaciu> Layl recovery mode from grub ?
[12:48] <badbodh> also try read this link if you haven't
[12:48] <badbodh> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
[12:48] <bijoo_> I think I found the answer to question : http://askubuntu.com/questions/71510/how-do-i-create-a-ppa/493577#493577
[12:49] <Layl> badbodh, what should I pass to update-grub2 to make it aware of where grub is installed to I don't think it's gonna grab it by default (had problems before)
[12:49] <Layl> pikaciu, recovery mode?
[12:50] <pikaciu> Layl you dont't have Advanced Options in grub ?
[12:50] <Layl> oh right it's in there, I'll try that in a bit after running update-grub2
[12:50] <untaken> I have a multi monitor setup, how can I invoke a keyboard shortcut to move to the left/right monitor? ie move the focus on my cursor
[12:50] <badbodh> pikaciu it won't matter, magic number problem means grub can't see ubuntu's root partition
[12:50] <badbodh> won't boot anyway
[12:51] <pikaciu> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[12:51] <Layl> if I select a different kernel version in that list it will give something other than invalid magic number btw
[12:51] <badbodh> Layl boot into usb/dvd and 'sudo grub-install /dev/-wherever you choose-'
[12:51] <pikaciu> Layl did you encrypt ?
[12:51] <OerHeks> bijoo_, i think you must read " How do I install Oracle JRE 7?" on that java page
[12:52] <Layl> I did not encrypt
[12:52] <philinux> Firefox 37.0.1 on Ubuntu 14.10 maxing out cpu, anyone else getting this?
[12:52] <Layl> badbodh, grub has already been reinstalled, this is the result of after an install of grub
[12:52] <badbodh> Layl: first run 'lsblk' or 'sudo blkid' in terminal to know how your hard drives are identified
[12:52] <Layl> boot repair did the reinstall
[12:52] <badbodh> but maybe not in the right location
[12:53] <Layl> when it gave me the commands to copypaste it was in the right location and if it wasn't installed it wouldn't even show up on boot right?
[12:54] <Layl> I'm just wondering now what went wrong that an ubuntu update could wreck itself so badly
[12:54] <badbodh> Layl hmm, that's true. Just run update-grub from live usb then
[12:55] <Layl> if I had a backup drive large enough I would just dump the entire windows partition to it and revert my raid to 2 separate drives, one for each OS
[12:56] <Layl> badbodh, update-grub2 shows "failed to get canonical path of /cow"
[12:57] <badbodh> eh where did the /cow come from?
[12:57] <Layl> from the process of trying to get anything to show up in grub at all yesterday, I can already guess this will be a repeating issue
[12:57] <pikaciu> from a farm
[12:57] <Layl> I  just ran "sudo update-grub2"
[12:57] <Layl> not sure if I should have passed it anything
[12:57] <Layl> or chrooted into anything
[12:59] <badbodh> normally ubuntu never needed to be chrooted, even the help page syas just update-grub
[12:59] <badbodh> chroot then
[12:59] <Layl> badbodh: chroot the volume or the ubuntu partition?
[12:59] <badbodh> if you can't mount your root, that's a good news
[12:59] <badbodh> ubuntu's root partition
[13:00] <badbodh> first mount it in /mnt
[13:00] <Layl> alright, just a moment while I do that with the gigantic name of it
[13:02] <Layl> badbodh: I've chrooted it, now I'm gonna run update-grub2 again
[13:02] <badbodh> good luck
[13:02] <Layl> "cannot find a device for /"
[13:02] <bijoo_> OerHeks: I ended up installing it your way; though wish I could have used manual one :( now have duplicate jdks on there; :)
[13:03] <bijoo_> OerHeks: thanks for your help and suggestion here.
[13:03] <badbodh> Layl what? how can it not find a device? you just mounted it...and chrooted to it
[13:03] <Layl> badbodh, and there's nothing in /dev/mapper/ here
[13:04] <Layl> not my volume, not my partitions
[13:04] <Layl> only something called "control"
[13:04] <pikaciu> Layl if  you get realllllly despaired you can try , from win, Grub2Win.  once it helped me
[13:04] <Layl> but it's not a grub problem is it?
[13:04] <newbnewb> help with the dash please? I am trying to make it so I can see all apps with one click....but it only shows 6 of them in the dash no matter how I filter
[13:04] <badbodh> looks like your raid thingy is messing up
[13:04] <Layl> if this needs a reinstall of ubuntu I can do that
[13:04] <badbodh> but try his method anyway
[13:04] <Layl> uggh it will just take so much extra time
[13:05] <badbodh> well you said it was a frsh install
[13:06] <badbodh> re-install, and this time observe what is getting updated
[13:06] <Layl> it's a lot of things though
[13:06] <badbodh> did you use synaptic to upgrade/
[13:06] <badbodh> ?
[13:06] <Layl> it was updating for like 10 minutes
[13:06] <Layl> I just got a window pop up that said it was going to update
[13:06] <badbodh> oh, that is supposed to be the safe way
[13:06] <liu_> hello
[13:06] <badbodh> lol
[13:06] <liu_> i am chinese
[13:07] <Layl> after that update it just didn't boot anymore
[13:07] <Layl> again, if I in the advanced menu in grub select an older kernel version to boot to, it doesn't show "invalid magic number" but something else
[13:07] <badbodh> what does it show?
[13:07] <Layl> kinda feels like it messed up a kernel update big time
[13:07] <Layl> give me a moment to restart my PC and i'll take a look
[13:09] <Layl> badbodh: "device-mapper; device lookup failed"
[13:10] <badbodh> check your bios, your raided drives are messing up
[13:10] <Layl> what should  I be checking for
[13:11] <Layl> the raid status screen shows everything's alright
[13:11] <badbodh> don't know, ubutu does have a nasty habit of changing hard disk settings in bios
[13:11] <badbodh> check those
[13:11] <Layl> wouldn't that also affect windows though
[13:11] <Layl> because windows still boots fine
[13:12] <OerHeks> huh ? " changing hard disk settings in bios" ?
[13:12] <ofoto> when i right click i can only open file with archive manager , xarchiver , gdebi. ubuntu software center doesnt show itself even in full list of programs ,any ideas what to do ? i thought purge and reinstall but asking first seems better
[13:12] <badbodh> windows 7 should, if it doesn't you can always change it back
[13:12] <ofoto> about .deb files
[13:12] <Layl> badbodh, no I mean if it has changed hard drive settings wouldn't that have already affected windows
[13:12] <rainbowtux> Hi all, small OT question: is there a good tutorial to build a system booting from squashfs?
[13:13] <Layl> as well I wouldn't know what to look for as I don't generally look into the bios
[13:13] <hateball> ofoto: gdebi is used to install debs in the gui
[13:13] <hateball> ofoto: if you are not installing them from a repository (software center)
[13:13] <badbodh> layl if you are using win7, it will alwys work no matter how badly you mess up the bios :D
[13:13] <OerHeks> ofoto, gdebi, or comandline sudo dpkg -i <package>.deb
[13:14] <badbodh> anyways forget about that, re-install buntu
[13:14] <DerRaiden> I've problem on my acer laptop, if i shutdown it doesn't turn off and the reboot doesn't go too, i tested with ubuntu gnome 14.10 and ubuntu-mate 15.04 does anyone know what the problem could be?
[13:14] <Layl> badbodh, oh wait, I just found a stackoverflow ubuntu question about mounting the device
[13:15] <Layl> it says I need to manually mount /dev and such
[13:15] <badbodh> oh, do share the link
[13:15] <ofoto> i can use gdebi but i cant use software center for deb files anymore
[13:15] <badbodh> ok
[13:15] <DerRaiden> couple days ago i used antergos where it goes quite well
[13:15] <Layl> badbodh, http://askubuntu.com/questions/82759/error-you-need-to-load-the-kernel-first-in-grub
[13:15] <badbodh> you mounted the device before doing a chroot right?
[13:16] <Layl> I did not
[13:16] <EriC^^> Layl: are you reinstalling grub?
[13:16] <Layl> I mounted the partition
[13:16] <Layl> not the dev thing
[13:16] <Layl> EriC^^, I don't even know
[13:16] <EriC^^> what's the problem?
[13:16] <Layl> "invalid magic number" when booting into ubuntu
[13:16] <Layl> windows still boots fine
[13:17] <Layl> well, except that fastboot is broken now in windows
[13:17] <OerHeks> ofoto, if you double click the deb, softwarecenter will open, maybe it takes a minut to read the package, be patient
[13:17] <dorelyo> how do I make oneko cat run at starup? :D
[13:17] <EriC^^> Layl: did you try an older kernel?
[13:17] <Layl> EriC^^, I did try to select an older kernel in grub, it doesn't boot either though it seems to get further
[13:18] <EriC^^> what does it say?
[13:18] <Layl> "device-mapper; device lookup failed"
[13:18] <Layl> abridged version of the error
[13:18] <Layl> it's looking in /dev/sda2 as well it seems
[13:18] <badbodh> layl you mount the partition before doing chroot, then the terminal will work as if you were in your original ubuntu root folder
[13:18] <Layl> which isn't correct since my raid setup's stuff is in /dev/mapper/
[13:19] <ofoto> when i double click the deb file it open it with file archiver , like zip files , if i load software center and try to install from main menu , file->install is gray/unclickable
[13:19] <badbodh> layl that's why update-grub didn't work
[13:19] <Layl> badbodh, I did that
[13:19] <OerHeks> ofoto, care to name us the deb / url ?
[13:19] <EriC^^> Layl: type sudo parted -l and pastebin it
[13:19] <ofoto> all deb files ,not just 1
[13:20] <Layl> EriC^^, just a moment while I re-start the livecd again
[13:20] <EriC^^> ok
[13:20] <OerHeks> ofoto, 'all' is such a wide spread, so you don't want to say wich from where?
[13:21] <ofoto> get-dep repository
[13:21] <Layl> EriC^^, meanwhile some more information, after the update grub just entirely only showed a bash shell, only when I rain boot-repair it showed ubuntu and windows again in a list
[13:21] <EriC^^> ok
[13:21] <ofoto> same for any .deb file i have ever downloaded , double click open archive manager
[13:22] <OerHeks> ofoto, what is the error when you use comandline "sudo dpkg -i <package>.deb"
[13:22] <ofoto> i dont get any errors with dpkg
[13:23] <newbnewb> can someone please help me in private? I am having a few probelms and cant get any answers
[13:23] <OerHeks> ofoto, solved then.
[13:23] <ofoto> just the gui ubuntu software-center is not associated with deb files any more
[13:24] <Layl-livedvd> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10815776/
[13:24] <EriC^^> ofoto: right click > properties > open with, select software center and set as default
[13:24] <OerHeks> i think you want things too fast, softwarecenter is slow during reading a .deb you downloaded yourself
[13:25] <OerHeks> first you get the normal softwarecenter screen, and it kan take up minutes to read a deb, depending on the size
[13:25] <ofoto> when i right click open with software center is not in the list , not even in full programs list
[13:25] <EriC^^> Layl-livedvd: sudo mount /dev/mapper/isw_cbhbiideb_Volume01p3 /mnt
[13:26] <Layl-livedvd> EriC^^, alright I've done that
[13:27] <newbnewb> anyone please?
[13:27] <marianne_> hey guys... can a US resident please validate if StarzPlay opens to a log in screen for you?
[13:27] <EriC^^> Layl-livedvd: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[13:27] <Layl-livedvd> EriC^^, done, no errors so far
[13:27] <EriC^^> Layl-livedvd: sudo chroot /mnt
[13:27] <marianne_> In chrome and in Firefox
[13:27] <ofoto> would purge and reinstalling software-center fix things or make them worse ?
[13:27] <Layl-livedvd> alright, still no errors
[13:28] <EriC^^> ofoto: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall software-properties-gtk
[13:28] <roh_> how to use metasploit
[13:29] <EriC^^> Layl-livedvd: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade ( it'll update the kernel too and other packages .. )
[13:29] <newbnewb> im trying solutions posted in askubntu and google and nothing works...and nobody will answer me here....is there another resource?
[13:29] <EriC^^> Layl-livedvd: it could remove something to install something else so check what it says before you hit y if it matters
[13:29] <Layl-livedvd> seems like it's upgrading 12 things
[13:29] <EriC^^> ok
[13:30] <roh_> how to use metasploit
[13:30] <Layl-livedvd> it's showing no removing things though
[13:30] <Layl-livedvd> alright it's done with that
[13:31] <EriC^^> ok, type update-initramfs -u -k all
[13:31] <lattera> so it looks like /boot is out of space... is there a way to clean /boot up?
[13:31] <roh_> how to convert mac address to ip address
[13:31] <EriC^^> lattera: remove old kernels
[13:31] <newbnewb> ok im giving up on linux...always troubles...no answers work....nobody will help
[13:31] <ofoto> eric^^ nice i tried but still didnt get fixed !
[13:31] <Layl-livedvd> EriC^^, alright, it's done with that as well without any problems
[13:32] <EriC^^> ofoto: is it in /usr/share/applications ?
[13:32] <OerHeks> roh_, clearly you don't understand what mac adress is. and metasploit is not supported here.
[13:32] <EriC^^> Layl-livedvd: grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[13:32] <Layl-livedvd> should that be /dev/sda?
[13:32] <EriC^^> i think so
[13:32] <hateball> newbnewb: Generally people don't like PM's, why not just state your question here?
[13:32] <Layl-livedvd> during the install /dev/sda was the default it installed grub to, which didn't work, I had to reinstall to the Volume01 one instead
[13:33] <EriC^^> Layl-livedvd: try /dev/mapper/isw_cbhbiideb_Volume01
[13:33] <Layl-livedvd> alright, just a sec
[13:33] <ofoto> yea it shows up in there
[13:33] <newbnewb> thanks for not helping a brand new user.....who cant get things to work....I appreciate the helpful environment you assholes....I was excited to try again after a few false starts that always went like this..now I remember why.....
[13:33] <newbnewb> linux is a hassle and users wont help or teach new people
[13:33] <hateball> Heh
[13:33] <OerHeks> sorry for answering you, newbnewb, good luck.
[13:33] <Layl-livedvd> EriC^^: "Installation finished, no error reported"
[13:34] <EriC^^> Layl-livedvd: ok, update-grub
[13:34] <Layl-livedvd> also it said it installed for i386-pc platform, is that correct even though it's an x86_64 install
[13:34] <newbnewb> oerheks you didnt
[13:34] <Layl-livedvd> alright, I've ran update-grub
[13:34] <newbnewb> what you said didnt work then you just ignroed the rest
[13:34] <newbnewb> nobody will actually help
[13:34] <EriC^^> Layl-livedvd: ok, type exit and try rebooting
[13:35] <newbnewb> its the same in forums
[13:35] <Layl-livedvd> it found 2 linux images, 2 recovery linux images, win8 and win8 restore
[13:35] <bazhang> newbnewb, I see no question from you at all
[13:35] <Layl-livedvd> alright gonna reboot now
[13:35] <EriC^^> Layl-livedvd: ok, great
[13:35] <newbnewb> bazhang I have asked several times
[13:35] <bazhang> newbnewb, no name calling at here either
[13:35] <trijntje> newbnewb: you have to be patient, and I find it helps not to call people assholes if you wnat help from them
[13:35] <bazhang> newbnewb, so repeat it
[13:35] <newbnewb> now I am having a new issue and again no solution in askubuntu or online works
[13:36] <ofoto> what is the issue ?
[13:36] <bazhang> newbnewb, say the exact issue, stop repeating that
[13:36] <craig_> quit
[13:36] <newbnewb> trinntje I asked alomst an hour ago...
[13:36] <Layl> EriC^^, thanks a lot for the help so far
[13:36] <EriC^^> Layl: no problem
[13:36] <bazhang> newbnewb, that i s way outside people scroll abilities
[13:36] <Layl> booting into ubuntu shows still "invalid magic number"
[13:36] <bazhang> newbnewb, ask now
[13:36] <newbnewb> well new issue is software center wont load....new install...I dont know CLI commands except to cut and paste
[13:36] <newbnewb> none of the solutions online worked
[13:36] <ofoto> software-center
[13:37] <EriC^^> Layl: does it mention anything else?
[13:37] <ofoto> im loading it from command line just type software-center
[13:37] <newbnewb> every time I enter something an online solution says works I never get the same results
[13:37] <Layl> EriC^^: "you need to load the kernel first"
[13:37] <bazhang> newbnewb, so what version of ubuntu is this, what are your system specs, how much ram, what cpu, what graphics card, which driver for that graphics card
[13:38] <newbnewb> i also have a hard time following IRC as its small and moves too fast....I am old and not as quick as you guys
[13:38] <bazhang> newbnewb, I need all that info
[13:38] <newbnewb> if I could get help in private so I dont have to scan all text it would help
[13:38] <bazhang> newbnewb, so scroll up one line, and it will slow waaaay down
[13:38] <newbnewb> sorry I am just really frsutrated and not good at this
[13:38] <ofoto> press the up button to find the msgs u put before
[13:39] <bazhang> newbnewb, thats not the way it works here, ask your question in channel for all eyes to see and help
[13:39] <bazhang> newbnewb, please answer the questions I put for you above
[13:39] <Layl> EriC^^, it can't go into recovery mode as well for that kernel version
[13:39] <EriC^^> Layl: i see
[13:40] <Layl> I can go into the other kernel and take a picture of the result
[13:40] <bazhang> newbnewb, what cpu, what graphics card, how much ram, what version of ubuntu, I need all that info
[13:40] <EriC^^> Layl: ok
[13:40] <Layl> woah what
[13:40] <Layl> something just happened
[13:41] <Layl> EriC^^, it still showed the error but now it's showing me a login
[13:41] <Layl> a text one, not a graphical one
[13:41] <EriC^^> that's odd
[13:41] <EriC^^> in the normal ubuntu?
[13:42] <Layl> EriC^^: yes in normal ubuntu but an older kernel version
[13:42] <EriC^^> ok, try logging in
[13:42] <ralph4100> I'm running 14.04 and Chrome is highly unstable - shockwave crashes like once every 30 minutes. Seems to be especially unstable on this machine but pretty bad on others I have as well. Any thoughts on whether this is common?
[13:42] <Layl> EriC^^, it let met log into my account that I set up during install
[13:43] <ralph4100> I'm using Opera at the moment because of this, however I really want to have vim bindings (I use Vimium on Chrome) and there doesn't seem to be anything for Opera.
[13:43] <EriC^^> Layl: ok, type sudo service lightdm restart
[13:43] <Layl> it says it can't start userservice though
[13:43] <Layl> sidenote, I'm running the gnome install of ubuntu
[13:43] <EriC^^> Layl: is this a fresh install?
[13:43] <ralph4100> What I really am asking is - is Chrome horrible on ubuntu/linux for everyone else - or is there something I'm doing wrong?
[13:43] <EriC^^> first boot?
[13:43] <Layl> EriC^^, it's second boot, first boot I only did an update
[13:43] <newbnewb> bazhang I cant keep up....too much here to follow
[13:44] <bazhang> newbnewb, what amount of ram
[13:44] <EriC^^> ralph4100: it's alright, though i haven't had firefox crash in a while on youtube, so i've haven't used chrome in a while
[13:44] <Layl> EriC^^: it says unrecognized service
[13:44] <ofoto> chrome is very smooth for me
[13:44] <newbnewb> 2gb
[13:44] <bazhang> newbnewb, what graphics card
[13:44] <EriC^^> Layl: ok type sudo service gdm restart
[13:45] <newbnewb> im going to try and get on irc from that laptop...I am not using it to be here in irc
[13:45] <newbnewb> give me a few min
[13:45] <Layl> EriC^^, it's showing me a graphical login now
[13:45] <ralph4100> is there a difference in stability between Chrome and Chromium? haven't used Chromium enough to find out how well it works
[13:45] <Layl> this is exciting, one step further to a soluton!
[13:47] <EriC^^> Layl: what was updated earlier?
[13:47] <EriC^^> type less /var/log/apt/history.log
[13:47] <Layl> EriC^^, it just gave me a window pop up that it wanted to update and I let it do that
[13:47] <bazhang> ralph4100, try it and see
[13:47] <Layl> it updated a lot of stuff so I can't easily give a list
[13:47] <Layl> EriC^^, should I login and open up a terminal to add that?
[13:47] <EriC^^> Layl: yeah
[13:48] <EriC^^> Layl: also look in /var/log/gdm or something similar for the gdm logs, it might say why it's not starting
[13:48] <Layl> EriC^^: I've typed less /var/log/apt/history/log
[13:49] <Layl> *history.log
[13:49] <Layl> it's showing me a lot of stuff
[13:49] <Sagar> hello,
[13:49] <Sagar> i am using ubuntu 14.04 and host my dns over cloudflare
[13:49] <Layl> I could pastebin the entire file if you want
[13:49] <Sagar> how can i whitelist cloudflare all ips so that i wouldn't get 522 errors
[13:50] <bazhang> Sagar, try in ##networking
[13:50] <newbnewb> can the person who was PMing me please write me in private again? I cant seem to find them on list
[13:51] <newbnewb> i know I am not good at this stuff and am sorry if its frustrating
[13:51] <bazhang> newbnewb, what version of ubuntu are you on
[13:51] <Layl-Ubuntu> EriC^^, here's the entire log http://paste.ubuntu.com/10815944/
[13:51] <newbnewb> 14.04
[13:51] <Sagar> bazhang ok
[13:51] <bazhang> newbnewb, is this ubuntu, or ubuntu-based, like MINT
[13:51] <newbnewb> ubuntu
[13:51] <newbnewb> installed today
[13:52] <newbnewb> i tried many commands from google for this problem...nothing worked
[13:52] <bazhang> newbnewb, full ubuntu, or lubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu
[13:52] <newbnewb> full
[13:52] <bazhang> newbnewb, whats the graphics card for that, hold old is the machine
[13:53] <newbnewb> Intel 945gm x86/mmx/sse2...not sure how old....prob from 2007 or so?
[13:54] <bazhang> newbnewb, the specs on that system mean yes, the full ubuntu is going to be very slow
[13:54] <newbnewb> bazhang would you please PM me? Its really hard for me to keep up....too much info passing constatnly
[13:55] <Layl-Ubuntu> uh oh eric timed out
[13:55] <bazhang> newbnewb, thus the problem with different things loading, like the software center
[13:55] <bazhang> newbnewb, try the package lubuntu-desktop , install , then logout and log in again
[13:56] <newbnewb> i dont know how....according to the specs this should work
[13:56] <newbnewb> i just need someone to guide me
[13:56] <newbnewb> not give me vague info
[13:56] <newbnewb> i need PM but for some reason nobody will do this
[13:56] <bazhang> newbnewb, I just told you the exact package to install, there is nothing even remotely vague about that
[13:56] <newbnewb> and I dont know HOW to isntall a package
[13:57] <newbnewb> as the software center wont load
[13:57] <newbnewb> i am VERY new to this....people are too advanced with their instructions
[13:57] <bazhang> newbnewb, then I will tell you exactly the command you need to put
[13:57] <bazhang> newbnewb, you can simply copy what you see here into a term and it will be installed'
[13:57] <newbnewb> I dont want to install lubuntu....ubuntu should work
[13:58] <newbnewb> according to the specs
[13:58] <newbnewb> and otehrs have this problem according to google
[13:58] <newbnewb> its not my laptops age
[13:58] <bazhang> newbnewb, that is going to be a very slow experience with that graphics card and that amount of ram on a nearly ten year old laptop
[13:59] <newbnewb> its not slow....its not loading at all....and google and ask ubuntu says other have this issue
[13:59] <newbnewb> but the solutions there dont fix it
[13:59] <newbnewb> other parts of the OS work....just the software center is broken
[13:59] <bazhang> newbnewb, this is troubleshooting basics, we need you to try some things, give some info to proceed
[13:59] <newbnewb> when I type in to reinstall it it says packages not available etc
[14:00] <newbnewb> how do I cut and paste from terminal to here?
[14:00] <newbnewb> even basic things like this dont work like I know and its frustrating me
[14:00] <bazhang> if you wont try even the most basic of troubleshooting steps newbnewb then no resolution of your issues will happen
[14:01] <hateball> newbnewb: you can use ctrl+shift+c or v to copy/paste in/from a terminal, as opposed to ctrl+shift in a regular gui app
[14:01] <newbnewb> bazhang I am trying...and have tried...my questions aren't directly answered....I need one on one help
[14:01] <newbnewb> thanks hateball
[14:01] <hateball> newbnewb: Or you can mark the text with the mouse, rightclick and choose copy/paste as well
[14:01] <k1l> newbnewb: ask a specific question, get a specific answer if someone knows it.
[14:01] <newbnewb> irc is overhwlming me as welll since its too many people talking....I am old and slow
[14:02] <hateball> !who | newbnewb, that's why hilighting is helpful
[14:02] <k1l> newbnewb: if you cant handle irc use ubuntuforums, askubuntu, discourse or mailinglists.
[14:03] <newbnewb> kll i tried those and none of their answers worked
[14:03] <newbnewb> and you wait days and then it still doesnt work
[14:03] <newbnewb> and I see others with same problems and no solutions....or it works for some and not others
[14:03] <newbnewb> i just need someone to PM me and walk me through
[14:03] <k1l> newbnewb: please stick to specific technical issues in here.
[14:03] <newbnewb> not sure why nobody will
[14:03] <bazhang> newbnewb, show us the exact things / guides / fixes you have tried
[14:03] <k1l> !pm | newbnewb
[14:04] <yaclm> Hello! If bekks is here: Here is the top output (http://paste.debian.net/166536/) you asked for yesterdas (Laggin input/mouse/everything after startup for up to 1 minuta, could not figure out what causes that much load. htop shows 50% kernel load but no explicit service)
[14:05] <Layl-Ubuntu> so uh, can someone take over from Eric^^ with helping me? He seems to have been disconnected
[14:05] <newbnewb> ok starting simple can I enlarge the irc typing box? everything it too mall
[14:05] <newbnewb> small
[14:05] <ofoto> i fixed my problem with .deb , it seemed that because im running kwin oner xfce i had to go to kde? systemsettings and change/add the association there and relogin
[14:05] <newbnewb> and I dont know the commans here
[14:05] <bazhang> newbnewb, what irc client is that
[14:05] <newbnewb> freenode in webbriwser
[14:05] <newbnewb> webbrowser
[14:05] <Layl-Ubuntu> newbnewb, if you are using webirc (irc in a web browser) you can control-scroll to zoom
[14:07] <Layl-Ubuntu> so it seems ubuntu perhaps has messed up a kernel update? I'm not sure what's going on here
[14:07] <alkisg> Layl-Ubuntu: I just came, what's the issue?
[14:07] <alkisg> A chroot kernel upgrade failed?
[14:07] <newbnewb> i just cant follow here
[14:07] <Layl-Ubuntu> alkisg, it's a long story in a painful 8 hours (not including sleep break) install of dual boot ubuntu
[14:07] <kaatu> when i try to install ntop from ubuntu software center it gets stuck , can some one help to restart the ubuntu software center
[14:07] <ofoto> newbnewb did u have internet updates on during the installation progress ?
[14:07] <newbnewb> it moves too fast and things are gone before I can cut and psate ans answer...and I cant scroll easy
[14:08] <newbnewb> its just all too hard...
[14:08] <Layl-Ubuntu> currently I'm booted into ubuntu with gnome on an older version of the kernel
[14:08] <newbnewb> thanks anyway
[14:08] <Layl-Ubuntu> in grub, picking the newer version (or the default non-advanced option) gives me "invalid magic number"
[14:08] <alkisg> Layl-Ubuntu: so basically you have abroken dual-boot and you want to fix it?
[14:08] <Layl-Ubuntu> yea, but, this is a pretty much clean install
[14:08] <kaatu> when i try to install ntop from ubuntu software center it gets stuck , can some one help to restart the ubuntu software center
[14:08] <Layl-Ubuntu> ubuntu first time did boot
[14:08] <Layl-Ubuntu> but after it updated it did not anymore
[14:08] <kaatu> when i try to install ntop from ubuntu software center it gets stuck , can some one help to restart the ubuntu software center kindly some one help
[14:09] <Layl-Ubuntu> now it boots again but only in the old kernel version
[14:09] <Layl-Ubuntu> and it doesn't start dgm by default
[14:09] <alkisg> Layl-Ubuntu: I can look with vnc if you want (I'm a sysadmin, it'll just take too long via irc..) - sudo apt-get install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr
[14:09] <Layl-Ubuntu> alkisg: as well, after the ubuntu update, it didn't show anything in grub anymore, I had to run the boot-repair tool to get anything back
[14:10] <yaclm> Hello! My laptop lags after startup and there is a huge delay for mouse and keyboard inputs. htop shows 50% cpu load (kernel) but doesn't show which command causes this huge load. any hints, keywords, solutions? (top output: http://paste.debian.net/166536/)
[14:10] <alkisg> I've seen boot-repair mess up things numerous times...
[14:10] <kaatu> when i try to install ntop from ubuntu software center it gets stuck , can some one help to restart the ubuntu software center kindly some one help
[14:10] <ofoto> software-center
[14:11] <Layl> alkisg: I'm still here from my laptop
[14:11] <alkisg> OK
[14:11] <Layl> alkisg, keep in mind, this is a fakeraid setup
[14:11] <alkisg> Layl: ah, dual boot with windows, not with another ubuntu, right?
[14:11] <Layl> alkisg, /dev/something isn't the hard drive, it's /dev/mapper/something_Volume01
[14:11] <Layl> alkisg, it's dual boot with windows yea
[14:11] <alkisg> OK
[14:12] <Layl> alkisg, as well, grub repeatively has shown me someting with i386 dispite this being a x86_64 install
[14:13] <Layl> alkisg, there /dev/sda won't work, the initial install was with that it just booted to windows
[14:13] <alkisg> Layl: you're not using efi, are you?
[14:13] <Layl> alkisg, as far as I know my motherboard doesn't support efi
[14:13] <Layl> I recall when I did some kernel programming that I checked that as an option and it wasn't available
[14:14] <Layl> alkisg, keep in mind this is booted from my install, not from a livecd
[14:14] <Layl> alkisg: p1 and p2 are windows, p3 is ubuntu p4 is swap
[14:16] <alkisg> Layl: wait, you said you were having boot issues, and it wasn't booting into X, but now I'm seeing it booted in X?
[14:16] <Layl> alkisg, it doesn't boot with the default option in grub, but it does with the older kernel version
[14:16] <Layl> however it does show errors on booting
[14:16] <Layl> and it won't start gdm by default
[14:16] <alkisg> OK
[14:22] <alkisg> Layl, I'm not seeing any errors that way, you'd have to reboot with a live cd, so that I can install kvm there, and then boot the disk in a VM to see the boot process...
[14:22] <alkisg> ...I'm not sure if it's worth it for a new installation though
[14:23] <Layl> alkisg, I'll reboot into the live CD, would just re-installing be faster?
[14:23] <Layl> I'm afraid that it will just give the same problem again though
[14:23] <alkisg> Layl, I guess so, and if you see that it's a kernel regression, you'd just report it to launchpad..
[14:23] <alkisg> You can also test without RAID
[14:23] <Layl> alkisg, alright gonna reboot into liveCD now
[14:24] <alkisg> OK
[14:24] <Layl> alkisg, if I could disable my raid and not loose all my data on my windows machine that would be very nice
[14:24] <Layl> because that one isn't a clean install
[14:24] <alkisg> Layl: it's a software raid, which means that you can use the ubuntu partitions without a raid there
[14:24] <alkisg> I.e. have raid in windows, no raid in ubuntu
[14:24] <Layl> alkisg, it's not software raid though, it's fakeraid
[14:25] <DerRaiden> I've problem on my acer laptop, if i shutdown it doesn't turn off and the reboot doesn't go too, i tested with ubuntu gnome 14.10 and ubuntu-mate 15.04 does anyone know what the problem could be? i'd tried acpi=off noapic and so on
[14:25] <alkisg> Layl, doesn't gparted see the partitions normally and allow you to format them individually?
[14:25] <Layl> alkisg, nope it shows it as one big drive
[14:26] <r_rios> I just installed chromium in Ubuntu 14.10 and it's crashing when I browse GMail and G+. Anyone else experiencing the same problem?
[14:26] <alkisg> when you run gparted /dev/sda it shows the dev/mapper instead?
[14:26] <Layl> oh, I just run the gui for gparted
[14:26] <alkisg> Layl: btw, you might want to prefer 14.04 instead of 14.10, because it's LTS
[14:26] <Layl> alkisg, I don't know, I tend to run a lot of very up to date stuff to get development tools working
[14:26] <alkisg> And it might happen that you don't get the regression there
[14:27] <alkisg> More people maintain PPAs for LTS releases than for non-LTS ones
[14:27] <TinoDidriksen> Where do I best report an X crash bug that's happening on 14.04 LTS with lts-utopic xorg and kernel installed? Somewhere on Launchpad or directly to Freedesktop?
[14:27] <alkisg> Layl: in any case, 15.04 would be better than 14.10, no?
[14:28] <Layl> alkisg, 15.04? I thought LTS was 14.04
[14:28] <alkisg> Layl: yes, I suggest 14.04 first, 15.04 second, 14.10 third
[14:28] <Layl> might want to go for 15.04 then, is there a gnome installer for that?
[14:29] <alkisg> Like, ubuntu-gnome? Or just Unity?
[14:29] <Layl> ubuntu-gnome
[14:29] <alkisg> I believe so, google a bit
[14:30] <Layl> alkisg, I'm seeing an iso though it's marked "beta 1"
[14:30] <alkisg> It's 10 days before release, get the last daily build one
[14:31] <alkisg> Layl:  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/daily-live/current/
[14:31] <Layl> alkisg, yep just found that as well
[14:31] <Layl> alright the livecd is started
[14:31] <Layl> give me a moment to start up irc and terminal again
[14:31] <designbybeck_> What does get stand for in apt-get ? I can't seem to find anything on that
[14:32] <k1l> designbybeck_: its a program name. like" what does "beck" stand for in your nickname" :)
[14:33] <Layl-Ubuntu> alright, got it all running here
[14:33] <designbybeck_> ha...figured as much k1l
[14:33] <ioria> apt is advanced package tool  , get could mean 'activate'
[14:34] <Layl-Ubuntu> alkisg, could you give me the line again to remote in?
[14:34] <designbybeck_> yeah ioria I knew what apt stood for, but I couldn't find anything on "get"
[14:34] <alkisg> Layl-Ubuntu: aren't you going to do the clean install?
[14:34] <Layl-Ubuntu> well I could do that as well
[14:34] <k1l> apt, apt-get and apt-cache are frontends for the libraries used
[14:34] <Layl-Ubuntu> it's probably gonna trash all over the grub entry for windows again though
[14:34] <alkisg> update-manager => options => enable universe; apt-get update; apt-get install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr
[14:36] <Layl-Ubuntu> alkisg, huh that line is opening up a window asking me to do updates
[14:36] <alkisg> there's an options button somewhere there
[14:36] <alkisg> Layl-Ubuntu: ah, software-properties-gtk will also do :)
[14:37] <Layl-Ubuntu> alkisg: what do you mean?
[14:37] <alkisg> Instead of running update-manager and clicking on settings, you can enable the universe repository from software-properties-gtk
[14:37] <Layl-Ubuntu> ah nevermind I misunderstood that line, I see the settings now
[14:39] <Layl-Ubuntu> alkisg: I'm not sure how I can enable universe in the settings, it's not giving me a checkmark next to universe
[14:39] <geirha> codepython777: You should get your connection fixed
[14:40] <alkisg> Layl-Ubuntu: can't help there without seeing your screen, maybe you can directly put the line in sources.list... google a bit about "enable universe ubuntu"
[14:40] <Layl> alkisg, ran the line without enabling universe
[14:40] <alkisg> Layl, ah, you have an ubuntu-gnome live cd, which already has universe enabled :)
[14:44] <ioria> designbybeck_, maybe is related to get or wget used by apt for searching package and other stuff
[14:45] <designbybeck_> ahh ioria I knew of wget, maybe so... Not a big deal, I just always wondered where that came from
[14:45] <alkisg> Layl, so, in kvm it boots with the latest kernel
[14:45] <alkisg> No gdm there though
[14:46] <alkisg> I think you should try with 14.04 or 15.04, so that you don't debug already resolved issues...
[14:46] <Layl> I'll try with 15.04
[14:46] <Layl> just to make sure it won't try to re-install a kernel again
[14:46] <danbower^work> i've just executed some debug code on the cli and there's an outrageous amount of text. cli won't respond to a ctrl-c. is it possible to kill it from another tmux window?
[14:48] <alkisg> Layl, if you want, you can remove raid members from there, format them etc
[14:48] <alkisg> Or you can keep using raid, whatever you like
[14:49] <Layl> alkisg, can I from here safely install ubuntu to non-raid?
[14:49] <Layl> by creating new partitions for it
[14:49] <alkisg> If you remove raid members correctly, yes
[14:49] <Layl> then installing grub to /dev/sda?
[14:49] <alkisg> But if you just go ahead and format them, you'll have issues...
[14:49] <alkisg> Yes you can install grub to both /dev/sda and /dev/sdb if you want
[14:50] <Layl> hm, so I'm not quite sure what to do here then, what's the correct way to add/remove stuff here then?
[14:51] <alkisg> Layl, if you're not very experienced with raid just leave it as it is, it's fine
[14:51] <Layl> alright then, should I format the partitions to allow ubuntu to install to them?
[14:52] <Layl> I recall it being said that the installer doesn't like fakeraid setups and formatting from there won't work
[14:53] <Agent_Smith_BR> .
[14:53] <alkisg> Layl, I'm not sure how the installer copes with raid nowadays, but you should be able to use mdadm, gparted etc
[14:54] <Agent86> Hi all
[14:54] <Agent86> how can I get a status of avconv to use in a progress bar
[14:54] <Layl> alkisg, I'll re-do how I formatted the partitions before, could you watch along to see if I'm doing it right?
[14:54] <Layl> meanwhile on my laptop I'm burning a dvd with 15.04
[14:55] <Agent86> in other words avcon starts converting and I want to know the progress in percent
[14:55] <r_rios> It's a segmentation fault
[14:55] <alkisg> Layl, I don't have *that* much free time, but if the problem persists after installing 15.04, I could have a look then
[14:55] <Layl> alright
[14:55] <Agent86> does avcon have something or perhaps a python subsystem
[14:56] <Layl> I'll just stay a bit in this chat then while I do the install of 15.04 and see if it works
[14:56] <Agent86> *avconv
[14:56] <Layl> alkisg, one last question for that install, should I be installing grub to Volume01 or /dev/sda when I'm using raid?
[14:57] <alkisg> Layl, I'm not sure about fakeraid, on software raid I had to install it to /dev/sda
[14:57] <alkisg> Since it worked with dev/mapper, use that now too
[14:57] <Layl> previously on fakeraid, it didn't work to /dev/sda, so I think it's gonna have to be Volume01 then
[14:57] <r_rios> Here's the segfault when I try to open GMail: http://pastebin.com/wstymUm4
[14:58] <ioria> Agent86, this is for ffmpeg but maybe you can adapt for avconv : https://gist.github.com/pruperting/397509
[14:58] <Layl> alkisg, thanks a lot for the help and patience with this problem
[14:59] <ars23> hi!
[14:59] <alkisg> You're welcome Layl, although I couldn't help much other than the advice for reinstallation :)
[15:01] <azizLIGHT> is there a gui tool to manage user groups on 14.04
[15:02] <jeff_> hi
[15:03] <pbx> azizLIGHT, nothing built in
[15:03] <OerHeks> azizLIGHT, not standard, sudo apt-get gnome-system-tools >> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/05/install-users-groups-management-tool-ubuntu1404/
[15:03] <lisak> hi, after ubuntu-server 14.04 installation, it boots up but due to a video card problem it doesn't enter login
[15:04] <azizLIGHT> hm ok
[15:04] <lisak> is it possible to disable it somehow? I don't even need it, I'll use ssh only
[15:04] <azizLIGHT> how do i tell what groups currently exist
[15:05] <genii> azizLIGHT: Whatever's in /etc/group are all the groups
[15:05] <OerHeks> azizLIGHT, type terminal 'groups' and you see what group you are in
[15:05] <yorwos> 15.04 is only as beta out yes ?
[15:06] <OerHeks> or that tool users&groups maybe??
[15:06] <OerHeks> yorwos, beta2 yes
[15:07] <yorwos> i wonder if upgrade will be ok or if clean install will be preffered again heh
[15:07] <Agent86> yikes that a bit complex to calc percentage of work done
[15:08] <OerHeks> yorwos, when you upgrade, download the iso first and put it on usb. That is where i start with.
[15:08] <Agent86> what vid card do you have ?
[15:09] <Agent86> if you have GTX 970 / 980 then I believe you need upgraded version of cuda
[15:12] <Agent86> interesting avconv seems to have a -stats option but I'm not sure how to use it
[15:15] <pavlos> Agent86, https://libav.org/avconv.html ... -stats ... print encoding progress/statistics, On by default
[15:16] <Agent86> on by default I see that, and it does print to screen but I want to use this info from stats to create a python ttk.Progressbar
[15:16] <Agent86> I just need calculations so not sure how to create a -stats variable to capture info from the console to a python variable
[15:17] <Agent86> although the encoding progress is strange in avconv it does not really show any percentage as you would think it's more of a bytes/s etc.
[15:18] <Layl> the ubuntu installer does not instantly die on trying to install the first time, this is a good improvement over previous attempts
[15:19] <Layl> for good measure, should I manually run update-grub from ubuntu before restarting after installing updates?
[15:26] <Sohail-Ahmed> I have a trouble remove a package using apt-get purge. http://pastebin.com/P1xTLYg7
[15:27] <geirha> Sohail-Ahmed: What does this say?  dpkg -S /usr/local/bin/doconce
[15:27] <Layl> the moment of truth, does it still boot
[15:28] <Sohail-Ahmed> geirha: it says 'no path found matching pattern /usr/local/bin/doconce.'
[15:28] <geirha> Sohail-Ahmed: then it's not installed via a deb package, and cannot be uninstalled with apt
[15:29] <illoxx> test
[15:29] <Sohail-Ahmed> geirha: yes I installed it via sudo python setup.py install
[15:30] <geirha> Sohail-Ahmed: Then it might not be easy to uninstall
[15:30] <Sohail-Ahmed> geirha: and python setup.py uninstall does not work either
[15:30] <Sohail-Ahmed> geirha: any suggestions?
[15:31] <Layl> Alright, alkisg it seems to boot fine now
[15:31] <geirha> Sohail-Ahmed: http://askubuntu.com/q/38692/9016
[15:31] <OerHeks> Sohail-Ahmed, did you get it from here ? https://github.com/hplgit/doconce
[15:31] <threecatstwodogs> does ulimit -n not work anymore ?
[15:31] <Sohail-Ahmed> yes
[15:31] <OerHeks> maybe they have an uninstall.py too
[15:31] <threecatstwodogs> sysctl fs.file-max returns different to ulimit -n
[15:33] <Layl> well that only took 18 hours including a sleep break
[15:34] <Layl> I consider that a net win over the last time I tried to install debian
[15:34] <EriC^^> Layl: hey, sorry i got dc did you solve the problem?
[15:34] <pavlos> threecatstwodogs, http://serverfault.com/questions/122679/how-do-ulimit-n-and-proc-sys-fs-file-max-differ
[15:34] <Layl> EriC^^, yep what solved the issue was format and install 15.04 instead
[15:34] <EriC^^> hehe :D
[15:35] <Layl> which does not make a kernel update so there's no way for grub to get confused to hell and back
[15:35] <kolbe> i have an Ubuntu 14.04 VM with a x86_64 CPU. i added a repository that has a Release file with "Architectures: amd64". when i do ''apt-get update'', the repo i added causes this message: "Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-i386/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)". i'm told this is because of "multiarch support". is it configurable?
[15:35] <Layl> now I can finally do the #1 goal I wanted gnome grub for, to have a material design theme
[15:35] <Layl> so worth it
[15:35] <EriC^^> cool
[15:36] <Layl> oh, one question, I've got an nvidia card, should I install drivers from the nvidia website before that will work right
[15:36] <Layl> it's a pretty recent card
[15:36] <Layl> was state of the art when I bought it
[15:36] <EriC^^> Layl: no idea, i have ati myself but the open source seem to run cooler and ok
[15:36] <EriC^^> are you going to game on it?
[15:37] <Layl> only with the games that run
[15:37] <Layl> I kept my windows install just for games
[15:37] <Layl> also for tools that only work on windows *shakes fist in the general direction of valve's hamer*
[15:37] <GoClick> How can I get the system to upgrade packages without bumping the minor version? So I’m using Foo 2.7.3 and Foo 2.7.4 is out but so is 2.8.3 and I know the 2.8 branch is massively incompatible with other software I’m using?
[15:38] <OerHeks> kolbe, maybe you have 32 bit ubuntu in your vm , check your current kernel > uname -a
[15:38] <EriC^^> Layl: might be worth checking out the nvidia drivers if you're going to game
[15:38] <kolbe> OerHeks: uname -a shows x86_64
[15:39] <OerHeks> kolbe, oke, what repo ?
[15:39] <EriC^^> Layl: sometimes it's a hassle though and could break stuff, i tried latest ati was a pita to remove, nvidia might be easier though
[15:39] <kolbe> OerHeks: it's one that someone in my company created (i'm testing it and i found this problem)
[15:40] <OerHeks> kolbe, good test.
[15:40] <OerHeks> kolbe, they need to build the 64 bit version then
[15:40] <threecatstwodogs> how would i tell if i was running out of tcp/ip connections or file descriptors
[15:40] <kolbe> OerHeks: the 64 bit version already exists. the message given by apt-get is "Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-i386/Packages'"
[15:41] <threecatstwodogs> I'm locking up a webserver that has almost zero load
[15:41] <kolbe> OerHeks: for some reason my 64-bit Ubuntu installation is complaining when it can't find a repository for 32-bit packages
[15:42] <aikidouke> does anyone know what group is responsible for composing daily-builds and releases for ubuntu?
[15:42] <SiegeX> Can I use both cron and anacron together? I have a task that I want to run at a specific time and it's on a 24/7 VPS
[15:43] <OerHeks> kolbe, not really an error from ubuntu's side, that repo sucks.
[15:43] <kolbe> OerHeks: that's fine. i'm asking why the OS is looking for packages for an architecture other than the one used by its kernel.
[15:44] <kolbe> OerHeks: i understand there's a problem with the repo, and i'm going to try to get it fixed, but i'm trying to get some additional information and learn a bit about Ubuntu in the meantime.
[15:46] <qiyexuejiunai> my first try
[15:46] <qiyexuejiunai> hello,anybody
[15:46] <OerHeks> kolbe, for instance, if that repo gives a list with packages:i386 and there has been a change, only with i386 packages and they build them fresh, the x86-64 part will surely find only older/depreciated/removed versions.
[15:46] <asad2005> I bought a new 4TB hard disk which i plan to use as data drive, what file system should i use and should i make single or more than one partition. I am using ubuntu 15.04 beta
[15:46] <daftykins> qiyexuejiunai: yes? ask a support question if you have one
[15:46] <kolbe> OerHeks: there are no i386 packages at all for this product, so i don't see that being a problem.
[15:46] <EriC^^> asad2005: do you plan to use it with ubuntu only or windows too?
[15:47] <qiyexuejiunai> Can I speak Chinese
[15:47] <peppelakappa> hello there, anyone using iris graphics on his ubuntu laptop?
[15:47] <EriC^^> qiyexuejiunai: /join #ubuntu-cn
[15:47] <qiyexuejiunai> ok
[15:47] <kolbe> OerHeks: i don't *care* if there are i386 packages available, because i don't want to install them on my x86_64 VM. if I don't care about the i386 packages, why does Ubuntu care about them?
[15:48] <flipapy> is this channel ok to ask about ubuntu server?
[15:48] <asad2005> EriC^^: Ubuntu only
[15:48] <daftykins> #ubuntu-server is even better
[15:48] <EriC^^> asad2005: use ext4
[15:48] <flipapy> thnks daftykins
[15:48] <peppelakappa> i'm experiencing a big, strange problem with CPU usage, and my graphics performances are really bad
[15:49] <kinslayer> I cant use a headset on my ubuntu laptop, it only wants to send sound to my external hdmi screen any suggestions
[15:49] <asad2005> EriC^^: and should i maek multi partitions
[15:49] <daftykins> peppelakappa: what version?
[15:49] <EriC^^> asad2005: up to you, theoretically, if one system gets corrupted you'd still have data
[15:49] <peppelakappa> daftykins, basically every version since 14.04
[15:49] <peppelakappa> a core is stuck at 70% usage, even when doing absolutely anything
[15:50] <daftykins> peppelakappa: including? so all kernels 3.13+ ?
[15:50] <peppelakappa> daftykins, the problem appears to be existing since 3.14 kernel
[15:50] <twokay> evenin all....got a small problem with executables being run from the shell... http://paste.ubuntu.com/10816653/ Any ideas on why even if its in my path it cant be found and is looking in an old location (I removed the package ruby and compiled my own)
[15:51] <daftykins> peppelakappa: so 3.13 is fine? :P
[15:51] <peppelakappa> daftykins, yeah
[15:51] <daftykins> so the solution sounds like to run 14.04 to me.
[15:51] <peppelakappa> i'm using a retina mbp so having latest kernel releases is a must
[15:51] <daftykins> oh a mac - ok that changes everything entirely
[15:51] <peppelakappa> *sigh*
[15:51] <daftykins> wait for 15.04 to go final then
[15:52] <EriC^^> twokay: type ls -l `which ruby`
[15:52] <yorwos> peppe , i dont know , one time i was running @folding , all my cpus at 100% , i had closed the program it didnt show in task manager but it was obviously running
[15:52] <EriC^^> twokay: maybe the symlink is broken
[15:52] <peppelakappa> this is why I asked if someone have this problem too: i'm on  15.05 daily and the problem persists :-/
[15:52] <peppelakappa> yorwos, heh, there's no process eating cpu, even perf top says nothing
[15:53] <twokay> EriC^^: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 138093 Apr 13 16:01 /usr/local/bin/ruby
[15:53] <EriC^^> twokay: what happens when you type /usr/local/bin/ruby
[15:53] <twokay> it works.
[15:53] <daftykins> peppelakappa: ok well 15.04 talk is in #ubuntu+1
[15:53] <twokay> am I beig daft or is this odd?
[15:53] <OerHeks> peppelakappa, only one core, 70% ? is that bad?
[15:54] <peppelakappa> daftykins, joining, ty
[15:54] <yorwos> i mean @folding was still running but it didnt show in task manager , higher cpu usage was 3% while the xfce cpu graph plugin showed it at full 100%
[15:54] <peppelakappa> OerHeks, it's really bad considering that's a notebook after all
[15:54] <EriC^^> twokay: no, it's pretty odd
[15:54] <peppelakappa> and for example, framerate on cs:go is awful probably because of this
[15:54] <twokay> thought so...Im not a linux newbie really. Feels like it tho :)
[15:54] <EriC^^> twokay: are there any aliases? try alias
[15:55] <twokay> unless its a symlink...yeah thats it.one sec
[15:55] <twokay> EriC^^: nope no mention of it
[15:56] <twokay> EriC^^: symlink in another location onthe path pointing to the old version? a locate doesnt find it nor does a find.
[15:56] <daftykins> peppelakappa: tried a non-unity desktop?
[15:56] <EriC^^> twokay: which returns that so when you type ruby it should run it
[15:56] <peppelakappa> daftykins, running i3
[15:56] <EriC^^> unless there's an alias
[15:56] <yorwos> yesterday i was stuck at 30% also for no-reason , but i rebooted and it was fixed
[15:56] <EriC^^> dunno
[15:57] <daftykins> peppelakappa: i take it you've experimented to rule that out?
[15:57] <peppelakappa> daftykins, tried any combination: i3 w/compton and without, unity, fluxbox. It isn't related to this
[15:57] <twokay> EriC^^: yeah me too....Ill figure it out. Ive checked the obvious so Ive missed something obviously. Thanks for the help.
[15:57] <EriC^^> twokay: ah wait
[15:57] <peppelakappa> maybe a driver issue, because with nomodeset, no problem
[15:58] <twokay> EriC^^: ...waiting :)
[15:58] <daftykins> peppelakappa: ah well. i'd ask further but can't support 15.04 in here
[15:58] <EriC^^> which says it's in /usr/local/bin , but bash complains about /usr/bin
[15:58] <peppelakappa> this strange bug is the only thing preventing me from using linux on this machine... argh
[15:59] <EriC^^> twokay: are you on ubuntu?
[15:59] <EriC^^> twokay: feels like arch or something
[15:59] <twokay> EriC^^: yeah thats the odd bit... /usr/bin/ruby doesnt exist. Ubuntu 14.04
[15:59] <anmol> hiiiiiiii
[16:00] <EriC^^> twokay: type dpkg -L ruby | grep bin
[16:00] <anmol> heyyyyyyyyyyy fuck off
[16:00] <twokay> EriC^^: dpkg-query: package 'ruby' is not installed (as expect I removed the old package and compiled my own ruby)
[16:00] <EriC^^> anmol: nice
[16:01] <anmol> ??
[16:01] <anmol> ubuntu uckubuntu
[16:01] <anmol> fuckubuntu
[16:02] <peppelakappa> oh well
[16:02] <EriC^^> twokay: ok, you could probably fix it by doing sudo ln -s /usr/bin/ruby /usr/local/bin/ruby
[16:02] <daftykins> !ops | anmol
[16:02] <EriC^^> twokay: no idea why it's doing that though
[16:03] <anmol> feeling lonely
[16:03] <newbnewb> Ive installed Unbuntu 14.04 twice now....both times the software center will not work from the beginning....if I use "sudo apt-get purge software-center" I get
[16:03] <newbnewb> Reading package lists... Error! E: Read error - read (5: Input/output error) E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[16:03] <anmol> error 208
[16:03] <newbnewb> i tried remove as well and get same command
[16:03] <newbnewb> same output I mean
[16:04] <EriC^^> newbnewb: did you checksum the iso?
[16:04] <daftykins> newbnewb: sounds like your installation or install media are damaged - or the hard disk you're installing to is faulty
[16:04] <genii> anmol: Still no reason to spam profanity into the support channel.
[16:04] <anmol> idk
[16:04] <anmol> ??
[16:04] <newbnewb> i dont know how to do that ericC....I am a grumpy old man who is barely keeping up and often not
[16:04] <EriC^^> newbnewb: do you still have the iso you downloaded?
[16:05] <genii> anmol: This channel is to assist Ubuntu users. If you don't have a support question about Ubuntu, or if you're not assisting a user, don't spam the channel
[16:05] <newbnewb> actually no....it was on the previous install and I foolishly didnt save it....all I have is the bootable usb...
[16:05] <newbnewb> my internet is 1mbs so it takes hours to get an iso
[16:05] <anmol> pls anyone help me its emergency!
[16:06] <EriC^^> newbnewb: ok mount the bootable usb, and open a terminal
[16:06] <twokay> EriC^^: Got it....and Ive got no idea how...but I accidently closed my shell down...relogged in and it works. So just out of interest that seems like once I uninstalled the package some realitime config was left behind but what could that be? Its quite important really because we will be mass installing servers and this could cause problems.
[16:06] <newbnewb> ok....be patient with me as I am slow
[16:06] <tgm4883> anmol: what is the problem?
[16:07] <newbnewb> !EricC it's mounted and terminal open
[16:07] <anmol> after installing ubuntu my laptop is overheating even if it is idle
[16:07] <tgm4883> what laptop/
[16:07] <twokay> EriC^^: an alias would show up surely, as would a symlink or path change. Ill try to reporoduce it. Thanks for the help tho.
[16:08] <EriC^^> newbnewb: ok, cd to the mountpoint, it's probably in /media/<user>/<uuid>
[16:08] <newbnewb> how? i dont know even basic commands sorry
[16:08] <EriC^^> twokay: ok, no problem
[16:08] <yorwos> anmol it must be the gpu , install proprietary drivers
[16:09] <EriC^^> newbnewb: type cd /media , type ls to see the files, then cd <user> and so on
[16:09] <peppelakappa> ok this is awkward
[16:09] <daftykins> is it?
[16:09] <newbnewb> is user the entire string up to the $? or just before the :
[16:10] <daftykins> user@hostname is how the prompt appears
[16:10] <peppelakappa> fixed that bug with another google search, appears to be a well-known bug http://askubuntu.com/questions/176565/why-does-kworker-cpu-usage-get-so-high
[16:10] <EriC^^> anmol: open a terminal and type top
[16:10] <peppelakappa> now let's hope csgo runs better now
[16:11] <EriC^^> newbnewb: there shouldn't be a $? or :
[16:11] <newbnewb> EricC when I type ls it only says "toshiba"
[16:11] <daftykins> peppelakappa: i'd still prefer you held this discussion in #ubuntu+1 since your installed version is off topic here.
[16:11] <EriC^^> newbnewb: ok type cd toshiba
[16:11] <newbnewb> EricC done
[16:11] <EriC^^> newbnewb: ls again
[16:12] <newbnewb> 32gb usb
[16:12] <EriC^^> newbnewb: or type cd and hit tab a couple times
[16:12] <EriC^^> newbnewb: ok type cd and hit tab so it autocompletes it
[16:12] <newbnewb> cd-create-profile  cd-iccdump          toshiba@toshibalaptop:/media/toshiba$ cd
[16:13] <EriC^^> newbnewb: usually if there's a space in a file you have to use quotes like cd "32gb usb" or escape the space with \ like cd 32gb\ usb
[16:13] <newbnewb> im lost...i have no idea what I am doing....when I put cd and tabbed that last from me is the output
[16:13] <EriC^^> newbnewb: put a space after cd then hit tab
[16:14] <newbnewb> do I need to go back or being in media still is ok?
[16:14] <EriC^^> you should be in toshiba right now
[16:14] <newbnewb> ah yes sorry
[16:15] <newbnewb> when i put space then cd then tab tab it outputs same
[16:15] <newbnewb> the cd-createprofile etc
[16:15] <EriC^^> newbnewb: put the space after cd
[16:15] <EriC^^> newbnewb: it think you want to autocomplete the cd command right now
[16:15] <EriC^^> *thinks
[16:16] <newbnewb> i got  space 32GB\ USB/
[16:17] <EriC^^> if you type cd<space> and hit tab it'll look for dirs in your current directory
[16:17] <EriC^^> ok, great
[16:17] <newbnewb> this is where I am now :   toshiba@toshibalaptop:/media/toshiba/32GB USB$
[16:17] <EriC^^> ok, type ls
[16:17] <newbnewb> autorun.inf  casper-rw  ldlinux.sys  pool                syslinux boot         dists      md5sum.txt   preseed             wubi.exe casper       install    pics         README.diskdefines toshiba@toshibalaptop:/media/toshiba/32GB USB$
[16:20] <anmol> Anyone know how to install IDM on ubuntu
[16:21] <kris_pol> tried to use telnet on one of the open ports , answer was " couldn`t parse request"  or connection closed by foreign host . what does it mean?
[16:22] <newbnewb> great
[16:23] <kris_pol> how to solve it?
[16:23] <genii> kris_pol: It means that port is running oms service which requires a set of interactions between it and the client ( in this case your telnet session) but it didn't receive anything it recognized as valid input
[16:24] <genii> s/oms/some
[16:24] <anmol> Does Samsung provide drivers for ubuntu?
[16:24] <Ziber> How can I add a dummy network interface
[16:24] <Ziber> ?
[16:25] <EriC^> newbnewb: still there?
[16:25] <newbnewb> yep
[16:25] <EriC^> sorry i got dc
[16:25] <newbnewb> np
[16:26] <genii> anmol: Samsung makes a lot of products. Whisch one more specifically do you have in mind?
[16:26] <newbnewb> the sfotware center seems to be troublesome according to google but no real solutions found
[16:26] <newbnewb> rest of the os seems to work
[16:26] <anmol> For laptop.
[16:27] <newbnewb> but I cant even unsintall etc....and when I try to install it "fails to parse"
[16:28] <anmol> Yippee 5 MB downloaded in 20 minutes hurrrah
[16:28] <genii> anmol: If it's a Chromebook, no. Although Ubuntu can be made to run on it.
[16:28] <anmol> geni, What are you saying?
[16:29] <kris_pol> should I search for it on another channel?
[16:29] <Ziber> I've done "ip link set name <device> dev dummy0" on two ubuntu servers, but it's not working on a third. It says it can't find the dummy0 device.
[16:30] <genii> anmol: I'm saying that if you asking about Samsung-supplied Linux drivers for their Chromebook line, they do not provide any because Google provides the entire embedded OS with all the drivers it needs for what is supposed to be delivered to the consumer.
[16:30] <anmol> why ubuntu use cpu even when it is idle when windows dont?
[16:31] <nogoodnamesleft> Does Ubuntu not have Java 8 in main repo?
[16:31] <newbnewb> can anyone else help me? the person who was helping seems to have isp problems
[16:31] <adminewb> hi all
[16:31] <GoClick> anmol: Because Windows is lying to you.
[16:31] <xangua> nogoodnamesleft: no
[16:31] <dale_> how do I get rid of the arrows slider and have a regular window slider
[16:31] <nogoodnamesleft> May I ask why Ubuntu does not have Java 8 in main repo?
[16:32] <xangua> nogoodnamesleft: licences, you can install openjdk
[16:32] <GoClick> nogoodnamesleft: Licensing
[16:32] <MonkeyDust> !latest | nogoodnamesleft here's why
[16:32] <nogoodnamesleft> Ah ok. And openjdk is version 8 compatible?
[16:33] <anmol> Goclick, but hardware dont lie. when i use ubuntu my fan runs at full speed while in windows not until i dont put a load on cpu
[16:34] <GoClick> anmol: Fan speed is controlled by OS, Ubuntu may not have drivers to throttle your fans. Although it’s entierly possible Ubuntu is running more commands. Windows doesn’t do all that much stuff out of the box in the background. Ubuntu is indexing for search and generally (I may be crucefied for saying this) actually kind of bloaty
[16:34] <GoClick> nogoodnamesleft: OpenJDK is v7
[16:35] <GoClick> nogoodnamesleft: My mistake no it’s Java 8
[16:35] <adminewb> trying here to diagnose some trouble logging in to unity desktop on trusty; rather than just log in to a certain account's desktop (while other accounts are fine), it just blacks the screen for a moment and repaints the same login greeter; where do I find the pertinent log files? /var/log/Xorg.0.log doesn't appear to be the one
[16:35] <anmol> Goclick. i think fan speed is controlled by BIOS and a OS has nothing to do with it
[16:36] <adminewb> I should mention that login to the troubled account on a tty works fine
[16:36] <nogoodnamesleft> I found pakcage "openjdk-8-jre" in Universe
[16:36] <OerHeks> !lmsensors
[16:36] <ponyrider> OerHeks: yep thats the one
[16:37] <MonkeyDust> anmol is this useful http://askubuntu.com/questions/22108/how-to-control-fan-speed
[16:37] <Johnny_Linux> Terabytes are termite-like desert insects
[16:37] <Johnny_Linux> wrong room
[16:38] <nogoodnamesleft> Thanks guys. Openjdk-8-jre seems to have fixed the problem with Jython.
[16:38] <OerHeks> adminewb, login with tty2 ( ctrl alt F2) and see the permissions of ~/.Xauthority , is it owned by root or the $USER ?
[16:39] <GoClick> anmol: perhaps, but in my experience motherboards often run the fans at full speed unless the OS tells them to run it slower. A good sign one way or another is what does the fan do durring boot. Remember every hardware manufacturer is in bed with Microsoft so Windows can do a lot of things out of the box
[16:39] <adminewb> OerHeks, it's owned by root:root
[16:39] <OerHeks> adminewb, that is the problem, it should be owned by the user.
[16:39] <MonkeyDust> Windows is the Main Stream, hence: MS Windows
[16:39] <adminewb> this may have come about during an fsck cleanup after a syscrash
[16:40] <anmol> blahh blahh blahhh
[16:40] <adminewb> OerHeks much obliged
[16:40] <OerHeks> * known issue, sometimes this is done by starting the wm with startx, depreciated
[16:40] <OerHeks> adminewb, iirc you can remove the file, it will be recreated next login ?
[16:40] <adminewb> OerHeks got it, will try that
[16:49] <ubuntuterrorist> hello
[16:50] <_Raiz> ubuntuterrorist, Hey.
[16:51] <ubuntuterrorist> I want to install Ubuntu in /dev/sda2, between (primary) sda1 and sda3 (Windows) but installed is trying to resize partitions
[16:51] <r_rios> The Ubuntu build of Chromium seems to be segfaulting
[16:51] <ubuntuterrorist> installer
[16:52] <r_rios> When opening gmail.com
[16:52] <_Raiz> ubuntuterrorist, resizing the partitions to what?
[16:53] <ubuntuterrorist> _Raiz: it wants to resize sda3 (NTFS) to allocate space for UBuntu
[16:53] <_Raiz> ubuntuterrorist, Then you need more space for ubuntu.
[16:53] <ubuntuterrorist> _Raiz: I tried to format sda2 with EXT4
[16:53] <georgelappies> ubuntuterrorist, try using manual partitioning
[16:53] <ubuntuterrorist> _Raiz: Ubuntu can be install in sda2, it has plenty of space
[16:53] <georgelappies> yeah what _Raiz said
[16:53] <ubuntuterrorist> georgelappies: I tried
[16:54] <_Raiz> ubuntuterrorist, What's the size of /dev/sda2
[16:54] <ubuntuterrorist> Select sda2, click on Change...
[16:54] <ubuntuterrorist> more than 100gb
[16:54] <ubuntuterrorist> brb
[16:57] <anmol> Are you here?
[16:58] <anmol> Are you here photographer?
[16:59] <ubuntuterrorist> _Rarity georgelappies: sda2 has almost 200gb
[16:59] <ponyrider> ubuntuterrorist: make sure you are only making a root partition. ie "/" -ONLY and not also making a /boot /opt etc etc.
[16:59] <ubuntuterrorist> ponyrider: and format it with ext4?
[17:00] <ubuntuterrorist> ponyrider: do I select it / as mountpoint?
[17:00] <ponyrider> yes ext4 is great
[17:01] <ubuntuterrorist> format ext4 and select /
[17:01] <anmol> Is there any channel for making friends?
[17:01] <psf_> Hi, can you please recommend any good programming irc rooms?
[17:01] <ponyrider> ubuntuterrorist: yes make that the only mountpoint. dont make a /boot
[17:01] <ponyrider> ubuntuterrorist: you can make a /home if you like
[17:02] <tgm4883> anmol: psf_ non support requests go in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:02] <psf_> ok, i got there, thank you
[17:05] <ubuntuterrorist> ponyrider: sda2 ext4 / is ready. is it safe to click install now?
[17:06] <ubuntuterrorist> and how would I create /home in sda2 along with /
[17:06] <EriC^^> ubuntuterrorist: you want a separate home partition?
[17:06] <EriC^^> ah nevermind
[17:06] <ponyrider> ubuntuterrorist: selecting "/" mountpoint makes the whole installation on one partition. ie /dev/sda2
[17:07] <ponyrider> ubuntuterrorist: if you want a /home you can add that as another mountpoint
[17:08] <ponyrider> ubuntuterrorist: so your partitons will be sda2 > / ... sda3 > /home ...
[17:08] <ubuntuterrorist> sda3 is used by windows
[17:08] <ubuntuterrorist> sda4 could be /home
[17:08] <ponyrider> ubuntuterrorist: it will be renamed. sdaX ...
[17:08] <ubuntuterrorist> but for that sda3 would be resized
[17:08] <ubuntuterrorist> hum
[17:09] <ubuntuterrorist> I will install everything in sda2
[17:09] <ponyrider> ubuntuterrorist: no it wont be resized. just add the mountpoints on sda2. everything is automatics. sda3 (windows) wont be touched
[17:10] <ubuntuterrorist> I don't know
[17:16] <ubuntuterrorist> ponyrider: the installer is warning about missing swap partition
[17:18] <ubuntuterrorist> ponyrider: ubuntu installer does not offer the option to resize the partition
[17:19] <ponyrider> ubuntuterrorist: dont resize the partition
[17:19] <ponyrider> ubuntuterrorist: you can make an option swap partition of say.. 1gb. i am not sure if its necessary anymore...
[17:19] <thiebaude> ^
[17:19] <ubuntuterrorist> 4GB of RAM
[17:20] <ubuntuterrorist> ponyrider: the warning says installation will have problems without swap
[17:20] <ponyrider> ubuntuterrorist: yeah if you make a swap, and you have a modern computer, make it <1GB
[17:21] <ponyrider> ubuntuterrorist: you prob dont need one though.
[17:21] <ubuntuterrorist> ponyrider: I can't see how I can create /home and swap
[17:23] <ponyrider> ubuntuterrorist: you dont HAVE to do it. if you want a /home partiton add that as a mountpoint.
[17:24] <ubuntuterrorist> I don't know how to do it
[17:24] <ubuntuterrorist> I chose to install ubuntu alongside windows
[17:26] <Mitt> ubuntuterrorist do you really need to have /home?
[17:26] <ubuntuterrorist> maybe not but I do need a swap
[17:26] <ubuntuterrorist> I can't choose the size and mountpoint for it
[17:26] <Mitt> ubuntuterrorist installer creates swap automatically
[17:27] <Mitt> you can actually resize
[17:27] <Mitt> pretty easy though
[17:27] <Pinkamen1_D> Unity crashed somehow but I managed to open a terminal and run it again without restarting
[17:27] <Pinkamen1_D> Can I somehow send this process to the background ?
[17:28] <Mitt> Pinkamen1_D what process?
[17:28] <ubuntuterrorist> Mitt: it doesn't
[17:29] <Mitt> ubuntuterrorist you will see after first reboot
[17:29] <ubuntuterrorist> Mitt: the warning doesn't say it will create swap
[17:29] <tgm4883> Mitt: it shouldn't be warning him about not having swap
[17:29] <ubuntuterrorist> it asks me to create swap
[17:29] <ubuntuterrorist> and I can't
[17:30] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: did you go into the manual partitioning thing?
[17:30] <ubuntuterrorist> no
[17:30] <ubuntuterrorist> I chose install ubuntu alongside windows
[17:30] <Pinkamen1_D> unity
[17:30] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: were you in there earlier?
[17:30] <ubuntuterrorist> no
[17:30] <Pinkamen1_D> as in, I just typed the word unity
[17:30] <Mitt> ubuntuterrorist install without, than resize windowz partition for some swap
[17:30] <ubuntuterrorist> Mitt: installer as for root partition
[17:30] <ubuntuterrorist> asks
[17:31] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: it shouldn't
[17:31] <ioria> ubuntuterrorist, you can create a swap file after
[17:31] <Mitt> Pinkamen1_D so unity is running what do you need else?
[17:31] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: you could just do manual partitioning. Should be easy enough
[17:31] <ubuntuterrorist> maybe
[17:31] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: how many disks do you have
[17:32] <Pinkamen1_D> Well, not so much as an emergency but more of a curiousity question, supposing I wanted to close the gnome terminal window but send unity to the background
[17:32] <tiyteeze> hey, it made a 404 error every time to install xubuntu-dektop on my nexus 7 (ubuntu 12.10) can someone help me?
[17:32] <Pinkamen1_D> how to do that?
[17:32] <Mitt> Pinkamen1_D closing the terminal will cause the ending of the process since it's running from terminal
[17:32] <Pinkamen1_D> I cant use the usual ALT+f2 trick
[17:33] <Mitt> you better reboot
[17:33] <ubuntuterrorist> tgm4883: I only have one
[17:33] <Pinkamen1_D> lol, wer working with linux here, we don't have to resort to that. =D
[17:33] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: then it should be easy enough to just partition some space out and set up the partitions
[17:34] <ubuntuterrorist> I get the same results by selecting "something else"
[17:34] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: ok, but did you set up the parititons when selecting that?
[17:34] <Mitt> Pinkamen1_D lol but then don't close the terminal
[17:35] <ubuntuterrorist> tgm4883: I can only select sda2, choose filesystem type and mount point
[17:35] <ubuntuterrorist> I cannot resize anything
[17:35] <ubuntuterrorist> the only solution is to ignore the swap warning
[17:35] <Pinkamen1_D> Sure, its unusual, but I KNOW someone knows a way to launch a process without requiring that the actual graphical window stay open. For example, whatever process is called when you press alt+f2
[17:35] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: what is sda2?
[17:35] <ubuntuterrorist> tgm4883: empty partition
[17:36] <ubuntuterrorist> sda1 windows, sda3 windows
[17:36] <Mitt> Pinkamen1_D app launcher
[17:36] <ubuntuterrorist> sda2 should be ubuntu
[17:36] <Pinkamen1_D> what is that binary called?
[17:36] <Mitt> it's on keyboard shortcuts
[17:37] <Pinkamen1_D> But I can not use unity things before launching unity.
[17:37] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: I might have to boot the iso in a VM to check this. Shouldn't sda2 actually be nothing right now since we haven't installed anything yet?
[17:37] <Mitt> Pinkamen1_D look for words with "launcher"
[17:37] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: I believe it should just be labeled free space
[17:38] <ubuntuterrorist> tgm4883: sda2 is empty, it "should be ubuntu" after I install it there
[17:38] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: Can you delete sda2
[17:38] <ben__> hi
[17:39] <ubuntuterrorist> tgm4883: no it shows free space
[17:39] <ubuntuterrorist> now
[17:39] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: perfect
[17:40] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: how big of a swap partition do you want?
[17:40] <ubuntuterrorist> now what
[17:40] <ubuntuterrorist> that depends if I'm going to hibernate
[17:41] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: well I can't answer that for you...
[17:41] <ubuntuterrorist> I'm thinking
[17:42] <ubuntuterrorist> tgm4883: swap can't be encrypted, so no
[17:42] <ubuntuterrorist> 1gb should be enough
[17:43] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: ok, how large is the free space
[17:43] <ubuntuterrorist> almost 200gb
[17:43] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: ok, so make a new partition on the free space that is 1GB in size and mark it as SWAP
[17:44] <sh4dow> hi
[17:44] <pontolino> hi
[17:45] <sh4dow> hi
[17:45] <shazzr> pontolino: hi there
[17:45] <ubuntuterrorist> tgm4883: ok now for boot?
[17:45] <ubuntuterrorist> 100MB?
[17:46] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: do you want to make a bunch of separate partitions?
[17:46] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: or you could just let everything be on the same partition
[17:46] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: the default partitioner puts everything on one
[17:46] <ubuntuterrorist> tgm4883: swap, boot, root, home
[17:47] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: ok, so a 100MB /boot should be fine
[17:47]  * tgm4883 crosses fingers that this is all on an extended partition
[17:47] <ubuntuterrorist> for root is more tricky
[17:47] <ubuntuterrorist> tgm4883: it is
[17:47] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: good
[17:47] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: why is root more tricky
[17:48] <ubuntuterrorist> depends of what I'm going to install
[17:48] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: make it like 30GB
[17:48] <ubuntuterrorist> ok
[17:48] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: you could do less if you want, but that's a pretty safe amount
[17:49] <ubuntuterrorist> 20GB should be enough
[17:50] <tgm4883> ok
[17:50] <ubuntuterrorist> tgm4883: ext2 or ext4 for boot?
[17:50] <mcphail> ubuntuterrorist: Out of interest, can I ask why you're splitting the install over different partitions? It tends to cause headaches for little benefit
[17:51] <mcphail> "because I can" would be a perfectly reasonable response :)
[17:51] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: ext4
[17:51] <ubuntuterrorist> mcphail: because I want
[17:51] <mcphail> ubuntuterrorist: fair enough
[17:52] <CJKay> Hi all, I'm running a server trying to force TLS on my OpenLDAP configuration, but I'm getting this: ldap_start_tls: Protocol error (2)
[17:52] <CJKay>         additional info: unsupported extended operation
[17:53] <ubuntuterrorist> a quick search shows that ext4 is faster than ext2 but it has journaling
[17:53] <CJKay> According to all sources it definitely should be supported so I could do with some help
[17:53] <tgm4883> ubuntuterrorist: put what you want. I'm just saying that the default ubuntu install puts it all on one partition which uses ext4
[17:54] <ubuntuterrorist> ok
[17:57] <baxx> I'm having trouble with LaTex as the Ubuntu Repos are a bit behind the official sites. I'm wondering about how I would go about uninstalling and reinstalling tex, and what I should be aware of htere.
[17:58] <tgm4883> baxx: uninstalling and reinstalling the same version?
[17:58] <tgm4883> baxx: that would be "apt-get install --reinstall tex"
[17:58] <baxx> tgm4883: No - I have pdflatex 2.1, I think what I need is 3.0
[17:59] <baxx> reinstalling the same version would leave me in the same position i think
[17:59] <tgm4883> baxx: have you found that 3.0 is available somewhere?
[17:59] <baxx> I think that 3.0 is available from the Tug site
[17:59] <Mitt> baxx if the needed version is not available in the repos, you better compile it
[18:00] <baxx> tgm4883: to use the drawing here http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/159127/drawing-simple-graph-pattern-with-tikz/159162#159162
[18:00] <baxx> it needs a later version that the Ubuntu repo gives
[18:00] <baxx> Mitt: do you mean downloading it from the Tug site?
[18:00] <Mitt> baxx sure
[18:00] <baxx> that would be uninstalling the one I have on my system first no?
[18:01] <baxx> Mitt: ^
[18:01] <Eightynine> Hi. How can I make application windows look modern in LXDE on Ubuntu? Also how can I change LXDE start menu icon to look like Windows 8.1?
[18:01] <Mitt> baxx it will
[18:01] <Mitt> baxx it will upgrade your version
[18:01] <Yaki> hi Eightynine
[18:01] <baxx> Mitt: well thats kind of my query I guess, I think this post explains my point better : http://askubuntu.com/questions/608845/uninstall-latex-and-reinstall-from-official-site
[18:02] <Mitt> baxx but keep the downloaded folderso you can remove it easily
[18:03] <baxx> Mitt: I'm not following - downloading the version from Tug site will upgrade my version, so that I don't have to delete what I have?
[18:03] <tgm4883> baxx: http://askubuntu.com/questions/486170/upgrade-from-tex-live-from-2013-to-2014-on-ubuntu-14-04
[18:03] <baxx> tgm4883: thanks for that, I'll have a look now
[18:03] <ioria> Eightynine,  i remember an LXMenuEditor,  but no more
[18:03] <CJKay> Hi all, I'm running a server trying to force TLS on my OpenLDAP configuration, but I'm getting this: ldap_start_tls: Protocol error (2); additional info: unsupported extended operation
[18:03] <CJKay> According to all sources it definitely should be supported (and it really is not up to scratch if it isn't) so I could do with some help
[18:03] <MDTech-us_MAN> hello
[18:04] <MDTech-us_MAN> I am installing x86 ubuntu on virtualbox
[18:04] <Mitt> baxx no, of course no
[18:04] <PlotCitizen> Hey, I've run two separate files that contain identical data (I've used hexdump to verify there's not more or less) through a hash and it's a different one for each file, why is that?
[18:05] <baxx> Mitt: that wasn't obvious to me from what you said
[18:05] <Eightynine> How to completely remove MATE? I turned my Ubuntu to Ubuntu MATE but this DE is heavy and menu lags.
[18:05] <MDTech-us_MAN> after I start the installer, it stays on the splash screen for a sec or 2 then the screen turns plack and says tsc: Fast TSC calibration faled
[18:05] <MDTech-us_MAN> *black
[18:06] <Mitt> Eightynine install synaptic, search for mate, remove all its components and install gtkorphan to clean unnecessary libs
[18:07] <ioria> MDTech-us_MAN,  virtual box ?
[18:08] <MDTech-us_MAN> yea
[18:09] <Eightynine> By the way why aptitude and Synaptic has been removed from Ubuntu by developers?
[18:10] <CJKay> "User-friendliness"
[18:10] <CJKay> aka "ask the marketing guy"
[18:10] <ioria> MDTech-us_MAN,  can you access grub ?
[18:10] <Mitt> Eightynine aptitude is removed? synaptic does not follow their view on computing, same they hiding the terminal on unity
[18:11] <MDTech-us_MAN> I forgot what is the button to do it?
[18:11] <Eightynine> It would be better if they made a good package manager because dpkg and Gdebi are crap and can't resolve dependancies good.
[18:11] <tgm4883> CJKay: to be fair, it's not like they just removed them. They have the software center now
[18:11] <ioria> MDTech-us_MAN,  shift or canc
[18:11] <MonkeyDust> Eightynine  you mean, removed from the iso? to keep the iso small enough
[18:11] <tgm4883> Eightynine: use the software center
[18:11] <MDTech-us_MAN> btw, this is on a installer cd
[18:12] <rektide> is there a program i can execute from a terminal to get Passwords & Keys ?
[18:12] <MDTech-us_MAN> ok
[18:12] <baxx> tgm4883: thanks for the link, that post doesn't mention anything abount uninstalling the previous version though, I'm guessing that this is something that I should do. ALso, what about other packages that have been installed via Ubuntus package manager such as LuaLatex and stuff?
[18:12] <CJKay> tgm4883: It doesn't really suffice IMO
[18:12] <MDTech-us_MAN> I got to the menu
[18:12] <CJKay> Still, at least it's still in the repos
[18:12] <tgm4883> CJKay: is there a reason behind that statement?
[18:12] <ioria> MDTech-us_MAN,  try editing the grub menu with  clocksource=tsc  before quite slpash
[18:12] <Eightynine> It lacks some software. I could install Virtualbox, Skype and TeamViewer in Linux Mint using Software Center but there's no TeamViewer in Software Center in Ubuntu.
[18:12] <CJKay> tgm4883: You can't copy and paste instructions in the software centre and have magical things happen
[18:13] <MDTech-us_MAN> it says try Ubuntu. Install Ubuntu, Check disc, test memory, boot from firs hdd
[18:13] <tgm4883> CJKay: you can copy and paste instructions in synaptic?
[18:13] <MDTech-us_MAN> oh
[18:13] <MDTech-us_MAN> there if more options
[18:13] <MDTech-us_MAN> F
[18:13] <MDTech-us_MAN> F6
[18:13] <CJKay> tgm4883: It wasn't a literal statement
[18:13] <tgm4883> Eightynine: that has to do with repos, not the particular interface
[18:13] <daddy> Hi everybody
[18:13] <tgm4883> CJKay: strawman argument
[18:14] <MDTech-us_MAN> so, ioria, do I remove quiet splash?
[18:14] <ioria> MDTech-us_MAN,  no ...
[18:14] <CJKay> tgm4883: I'm not on Ubuntu at the moment so I can't provide examples for either argument
[18:14] <ioria> MDTech-us_MAN,  add clocksource=tsc
[18:14] <MDTech-us_MAN> its just 1 long line of text
[18:14] <MDTech-us_MAN> ok
[18:14] <MDTech-us_MAN> before the -- ?
[18:15] <ioria> MDTech-us_MAN,  quit splash
[18:15] <MDTech-us_MAN> what you mean
[18:16] <tgm4883> CJKay: well it's good that you're on here telling everyone how software center doesn't meet your needs with all these facts to back up your statements ;)
[18:16] <MDTech-us_MAN> sorry for slight noobness. I didn't mess around in grub for some time
[18:16] <ioria> MDTech-us_MAN,  you just have to add that parameter
[18:17] <MDTech-us_MAN> ok
[18:19] <MDTech-us_MAN> ahh
[18:19] <MDTech-us_MAN> better
[18:19] <manh> hi
[18:19] <manh> how can i get the list of room on Smuxi?
[18:19] <MDTech-us_MAN> I had to remove quiet splash for some arbitrary reason
[18:20] <ioria> MDTech-us_MAN,  you can remove spash and add text if you wanna a  text strap
[18:20] <MDTech-us_MAN> it is starting...
[18:20] <MDTech-us_MAN> i think....
[18:20] <baxx> tgm4883: not sure if you saw my last msg re the removal of previous packages, managing packages that I have installed via offical repos. The thread you linked doesn't say anything about the uninstallation of things, just about adding the 2014 package, cheers
[18:20] <MDTech-us_MAN> hmm
[18:21] <PlotCitizen> Hey, I've run two separate files that contain identical data (I've used hexdump to verify there's not more or less) through a hash and it's a different one for each file, why is that?
[18:22] <tgm4883> baxx: idk. I would guess that removing the other packages should be fine
[18:22] <PCatinean> how does one reload the console?
[18:22] <ubuntuterrorist> blank screen
[18:22] <SchrodingersScat> PCatinean: reset?
[18:22] <PCatinean> when it's broken, a.k.a you cannot see what you are typing any more
[18:22] <PCatinean> thank you!
[18:22] <PCatinean> that was it
[18:22] <baxx> tgm4883: cheers, but would you remove ALL tex packages and reinstall them all? Things such as LuaLatex and others that I've downloaded
[18:23] <SchrodingersScat> PCatinean: welcome, happens to me all the time :)
[18:23] <Eightynine> How can I edit image to cut something from it?
[18:23] <ioria> ubuntuterrorist, no space for grub, maybe
[18:23] <MDTech-us_MAN> it seems stuck on hid-generic 0003:80EE:0021.0001: input,hidraw0: UUSB HID v1.10 Mouse [VirtualBox USB Tablet] on usb-0000:00:06.0-1/input0
[18:23] <PCatinean> SchrodingersScat, I swar I tried, reload, reboot, remake, restart, re...whatever
[18:23] <PCatinean> It was killing me...
[18:23] <PCatinean> swear*
[18:23] <ubuntuterrorist> ioria: no, grub is there. ubuntu booted but screen was blank
[18:23] <ioria> ubuntuterrorist, nomodeset
[18:23] <ubuntuterrorist> ok
[18:24] <MDTech-us_MAN> yea....
[18:24] <MDTech-us_MAN> it sure is stuck
[18:25] <adac> Guys I have really a lot of trouble with my lenovo T430s and the docking station and the moniotrs that hang on the dockingstation. MOst of the time my pc freezes when I unplug and plug it in again. Also on startup it cannot detect the monitor and all becomes very slow. Then I either have to shut it down by force or sometimes after 5 minutes it is able to detect the monitor
[18:25] <adac> really I cannot work like this
[18:25] <adac> I'm out of ideas
[18:27] <ioria> MDTech-us_MAN,  what you have for mouse ?
[18:27] <hkrrsx> morning
[18:28] <MDTech-us_MAN> whatever Virtualbox says
[18:28] <MDTech-us_MAN> the host is Windows witha normal usb mouse
[18:28] <ubuntuterrorist> No UMS support in radeon module
[18:28] <tgm4883> baxx: no, just remove the texlive stuff
[18:28] <MDTech-us_MAN> ioria, ^
[18:28] <ubuntuterrorist> wtf
[18:29] <ubuntuterrorist> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1407505
[18:29] <Combatjuan> Hello.  I have ~200 servers running Ubuntu 14.04.  Of them ~50% have pid_max set to 32768, ~50% to 49152, but the newest two have it set to 147456.  I can't figure out what is setting them that way.  It's not in sysctl.conf.  syslog sets it to that value on boot.  Why?  Where?  How?
[18:31] <Combatjuan> The internet seems to think that pid_max is set by /etc/sysctl.conf but it's not being set there.  And it looks like threads.h controls the default value but I don't see how that could be getting the value 147456.  I feel like I've googled to the end of the internet.  So here I am.  any ideas?
[18:32] <hkrrsx> Combatjuan: Check this out .... http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-linux-increase-pid-limits.html
[18:32] <Combatjuan> hkrrsx: Yes.  That shows how to set it but not where the default would be coming from.
[18:33] <MDTech-us_MAN> maybe it is somehow calculated on install
[18:33] <genii> Combatjuan: Check /etc/security/limits.conf
[18:33] <MDTech-us_MAN> or on boot
[18:33] <MDTech-us_MAN> or that
[18:33] <Combatjuan> I think that's likely.  And given that the two new servers run V3 intel server processors, it seems likely it somehow comes from there.  But I can't find where it's even saved on disk.
[18:35] <MDTech-us_MAN> check genii's suggestion
[18:35] <Combatjuan> genii, nothing in there.  More generally, the following have no results: grep 147456 -R /etc; grep pid_max -R /etc -i;
[18:36] <MDTech-us_MAN> then it may be calculated on boot
[18:36] <MDTech-us_MAN> which is smarted than only doing it on install
[18:36] <MDTech-us_MAN> if it is done on install, then there may be problems if the hardware was upgraded and it did not change it
[18:36] <Combatjuan> Very true.  So I guess I can force it to some value <= 65536 in sysctl.conf.
[18:37] <MDTech-us_MAN> but why would you need it to be the same in the first place?
[18:37] <genii> Combatjuan: Yeah you could use kernel.pid_max   value in there
[18:37] <genii> Perhaps they are running different kernels than the others
[18:38] <MDTech-us_MAN> if it is calculated by the system, then there must be some reason they are different
[18:38] <_Trullo> when is linux 4 beeing released?
[18:38] <MDTech-us_MAN> check the kernels are the same, like genii said
[18:38] <ioria> MDTech-us_MAN,  you can try with others parameters after clocksource, -  acpi_pm, or hpet
[18:38] <genii> MDTech-us_MAN: Yes, that's why I'm wondering about kernel versions. Might be 32vs 64 bit kernel thing, or later kernel might have higher default
[18:39] <genii> _Trullo: You could ask in ##linux
[18:39] <MDTech-us_MAN> yea, exactly my point, genii
[18:39] <EriC^^> cat /proc/sys/kernel/pid_max
[18:39] <MDTech-us_MAN> ioria, i'll give it a try
[18:40] <EriC^^> it's in /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libprocps.so.3.0.0
[18:41] <genii> So libprocps3 package
[18:42] <Combatjuan> genii - They are running the same kernels (well, at least most of them are).
[18:43] <genii> Combatjuan: Operative word here might be "most"
[18:43] <Combatjuan> Nah.  My sample size on this is large enough that I'm certain those are the only machines that have the 147456 value.  And they've had it on their last 3 kernel versions. None of the others have on the same kernel versions.
[18:44] <MDTech-us_MAN> well, if there are 2 different servers with the same kernel but different pidmax....
[18:44] <Combatjuan> MDTech-us_MAN: That is the case.
[18:44] <MDTech-us_MAN> so, my guess is it is calculated somewhere, somehow
[18:45] <MDTech-us_MAN> possibly according to the specs
[18:45] <Combatjuan> EriC^^: I think you may have been talking to me.  pid_max is 147456 (as given by /proc/sys/kernel/pid_max) on 2 servers and something different on a hundred others.
[18:48] <genii> Thonly other limiting factor for pid I can think of would be the limit of subdirectories allowed on a partuclar filesystem since /proc<Pdid#> has to be created for each one
[18:48] <sergio_> hello
[18:49] <genii> meh typos
[18:50] <Combatjuan> genii: That's actually an interesting theory....  Well, they're all ext4, but it does just so happen that the two that have 147456 are also the only two that have SSDs (which may have changed some part of the filesystem setup during the install?)
[18:50] <Guest52849> how do Isolve a "failed to fetch" error on ubuntu update
[18:50] <MonkeyDust> Guest52849  if it's a ppa, rmeove it
[18:50] <izimh> hello
[18:50] <MonkeyDust> remove*
[18:50] <Guest52849> how to solve the #failed to fetch" error on ubuntu update
[18:52] <MDTech-us_MAN> Combatjuan, well, that does affect the specs in a good way, so if it is calculated by specs, then there it is
[18:53] <jmadero> is there a way to integrate google voice (for text messaging) into pidgin
[18:54] <Combatjuan> MDTech-us_MAN, genii: Ok.  I'll go with that as an explanation.  Thank you both.
[18:54] <MDTech-us_MAN> np
[18:55] <MDTech-us_MAN> you should be able to change it if you desperatly need to
[18:55] <ronh> "Install ubuntu alongside windows" <- if I select that will I be asked to what disk and partition will ubuntu be installed?
[18:55] <EriC^^> ronh: i dont think so
[18:55] <MDTech-us_MAN> no
[18:56] <MDTech-us_MAN> it may let you chose which disk though
[18:56] <ronh> how does it decide, then?
[18:56] <MDTech-us_MAN> it also asks the size
[18:56] <MDTech-us_MAN> the size of the partition
[18:57] <MDTech-us_MAN> well, what else whould you want to give it?
[18:57] <MDTech-us_MAN> its just a more user friendly way of saying "Install Ubuntu on another partition on the drive that Windows is installed to"
[18:58] <ronh> I have 250GB ssd and I left 50GB for ubuntu.. along side some data disks. not sure if I should trust ubuntu installation to get it right. will it at least ask for confirmation? how smart does it try to be
[18:58] <MDTech-us_MAN> ronh: ^
[18:58] <OerHeks> It will give a confirmation.
[18:58] <EriC^^> ronh: partition yourself, why find out
[18:58] <MDTech-us_MAN> yea
[18:59] <MDTech-us_MAN> it gives confirmation
[18:59] <EriC^^> click on Something else
[18:59] <MDTech-us_MAN> or if you want to feel smart click something else
[18:59] <MDTech-us_MAN> just dont forget to add swap and assign the root drive
[18:59] <MDTech-us_MAN> partition i mean
[18:59] <ronh> do I need swap? I wasn't counting for it.
[19:00] <MDTech-us_MAN> ...
[19:00] <ronh> 16 GB of ram
[19:00] <ioria> wow
[19:00] <EriC^^> ronh: only if you want hibernation
[19:00] <ronh> standard would be swap = ram * 2, yes? that is a lot of SSD space
[19:00] <bekks> ronh: You need swap == ram if you plan to use hibernation.
[19:00] <EriC^^> ronh: yes, in 1994 or something
[19:00] <bekks> ronh: That standard was outdated 15 years ago :)
[19:00] <MDTech-us_MAN> http://askubuntu.com/questions/291378/do-we-still-need-swap-partitions-on-desktop
[19:01] <MDTech-us_MAN> so, if you do not want to hibernate, it will be fine to have like 4-8GB
[19:02] <EriC^^> he will probably never use that
[19:02] <dasdre> my audio is dead, no devices detected, alsamixer cannot open mixer: No such file or directory, and /dev/sndstat does not exist. what do?
[19:02] <MDTech-us_MAN> depends on what he does
[19:02] <EriC^^> dasdre: try rebooting
[19:03] <dasdre> It worked earlier, but then i tried to install gnome (botched it, broken packages and shit)
[19:03] <dasdre> i should probably ppa-purge
[19:03] <MDTech-us_MAN> I actually never had an SSD in any of my computers only 1+TB HDDs, so I wouldn't know
[19:04] <tgm4883> bekks: isn't it RAM+1MB? I thought there was a tiny bit of overhead
[19:04] <ronh> if I need to hibernate would swap need to equal ram in size?
[19:04] <MDTech-us_MAN> at least
[19:04] <MDTech-us_MAN> there is always sleep though....
[19:04] <bekks> ronh: Yes.
[19:04] <bekks> ronh: you'll need a small overhead too, like 100M.
[19:05] <MDTech-us_MAN> I tried hibernating on my laptop, no go
[19:05] <dasdre> how do i unfuck my packages
[19:05] <dasdre> i tried to install gnome but there shit with broken packages
[19:05] <dasdre> do i ppa-purge and try again
[19:05] <EriC^^> dasdre: did you install from a ppa?
[19:05] <dasdre> yeah
[19:06] <dasdre> the gnome3 ppa
[19:06] <EriC^^> try to ppa-purge
[19:06] <MDTech-us_MAN> it actually was disabled by default, but after I enabled it and tried it, it got all buggy after hibernation
[19:06] <dasdre> i'm doing that atm
[19:08] <dasdre> can i remove these: http://pastebin.com/wRnZVCev
[19:09] <ayy> ayy lmao
 ayy lmao
[19:10] <dasdre> just do /me lmao
[19:10] <ayy> you cant make me
[19:10]  * bekks can
[19:11] <ayy> i have ubuntu fgt
[19:11] <ayy> good luck
[19:12] <dasdre> 2/3 gnome ppas
[19:13] <bleg> Hi, is it okay to ask Clonezilla backup questions here? I'm trying to clone a partition to local disk. The first warning message it gives me says it will overwrite partition sdb2, which is fine. The 2nd warning message it gives me says it will overwrite sdb, which is NOT fine.
[19:13] <dasdre> 3/3
[19:13] <dasdre> gtgt
[19:13] <dasdre> *gtg
[19:13] <bazhang> bleg, they have a channel here on freenode, you realize
[19:14] <bleg> Oh, whoops. Thanks
[19:14] <bazhang> #clonezilla bleg
[19:14] <bazhang> np
[19:17] <TimeVirus> hello I'm having a heck of a time getting this installed onto this Compaq Presario CQ56 - I have freed up 1 of the primary partitions to get it on but I would also like to use LVM for the new Ubuntu install
[19:17] <TimeVirus> supyp?
[19:17] <TimeVirus> the LVM option is grayed out
[19:18] <TimeVirus> why would it not be available
[19:18] <TimeVirus> I need 2 free partitions?
[19:20] <ioria> TimeVirus,  you got Windows 8 ?
[19:20] <gunnar> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpLVM-WithoutACleanInstall
[19:20] <TimeVirus> no sir not and hopefully never
[19:21] <ioria> :-P
[19:21] <ioria> TimeVirus,  other OS ?
[19:21] <TimeVirus> win 7 in there now
[19:21] <TimeVirus> this isnt going to be my puter
[19:21] <TimeVirus> it belongs to a friend of mine I'm trying to get him on an Ubuntu
[19:22] <TimeVirus> I'm pretty sure thats going to be rough as it can get
[19:22] <TimeVirus> so I dont want to wipe out win 7 just yet
[19:22] <TimeVirus> for him
[19:22] <ioria> TimeVirus,  uefi motherboard  ?
[19:22] <gunnar> TimeVirus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#LVM_Installation_Guides
[19:23] <TimeVirus> not sure about mom board
[19:23] <gunnar> Ok then
[19:24] <gunnar> TimeVirus: It seems there are some limitations on when you can use LVM.
[19:24] <TimeVirus> I've got Xubuntu Live in the laptop now how would I find out what mobo hes got without inxi?
[19:24] <TimeVirus> really?
[19:24] <TimeVirus> wow
[19:25] <TimeVirus> I mean LVM and Ubuntu need 2 primary partitions the?
[19:25] <gunnar> TimeVirus: by that I just mean, for example when doing dual boot LVM can not be used and so on.
[19:25] <TimeVirus> then*
[19:25] <TimeVirus> oh I see
[19:25] <TimeVirus> ok
[19:25] <TimeVirus> bah
[19:25] <ofoto> i was using kwin over xfce , i uninstalled amd proprietary but now im getting error on the window effects because they require OpenGL and choosing any of them doesnt work
[19:26] <ioria> TimeVirus,  try this : http://askubuntu.com/questions/470632/install-lvm-dual-boot-with-windows
[19:26] <TimeVirus> then I have to have 2 primary partitions, 1 for Ubuntu and 1 for swap, yes?
[19:26] <gunnar> http://askubuntu.com/questions/470632/install-lvm-dual-boot-with-windows
[19:26] <TimeVirus> I was hoping to use LVM with 1 partiton
[19:26] <TimeVirus> aha
[19:26] <gunnar> sorry.
[19:26] <gunnar> Checking ioria's link
[19:27] <TimeVirus> also remember reading somewhere that Linux doesnt even need 1 primary partition
[19:27] <TimeVirus> at least for Ubuntu is that untrue?
[19:27] <TimeVirus> must be
[19:27] <gunnar> OK I think this will help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lvm
[19:28] <gunnar> absorb the wisdom.
[19:28] <TimeVirus> lol
[19:28] <gunnar> ioira: :P
[19:29] <TimeVirus> getting this guy on Linux is ROUGH!
[19:29] <ioria> hi  gunnar how are you doing ?
[19:29] <gunnar> Super, you?
[19:29] <yorwos> should i try to purge kde-workspace and reinstall it or does it look like something is weird with my system ?  i also seem to have lots of xorg.conf files but they all look like backups , either.original-3 or fglrx-3
[19:29] <ioria> gunnar so and so , thanx for asking
[19:30] <gunnar> ioria: anythin for you :D
[19:30] <magicuk>  /msg NickServ SETPASS magicuk eiafemmbkmym st2011
[19:30] <magicuk> ffs
[19:30] <magicuk> oops
[19:30] <gunnar> HAHAH!
[19:30] <magicuk> lmao
[19:30] <magicuk> i hate nickserv
[19:30] <magicuk> :)
[19:31] <TimeVirus> lol
[19:31] <yorwos> if i "sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf" to reconfigure it it says there is no such file
[19:31] <magicuk> Hey guys long time no speak , yes i just fucked up oh well
[19:31] <Ben64> yorwos: it doesn't exist by default, and thats not how to reconfigure it
[19:31] <magicuk> :)
[19:31] <Ben64> magicuk: watch the language
[19:32] <genii> yorwos: No xorg.conf is created ny default any longer.
[19:32] <genii> ny/by
[19:32] <magicuk> brbg
[19:32] <magicuk> brb
[19:32] <TimeVirus> so just to clear this up - Ubuntu and Swap each need ot have a primary partition to be installed - is that right? Dual boot included ofc
[19:32] <Ben64> TimeVirus: no
[19:32] <yorwos> is there a reason i shouold create one ?
[19:32] <k1l> TimeVirus: make an extended partition and put all ubuntu partitions in there
[19:32] <TimeVirus> ok
[19:33] <yorwos> my problem is kwin cant use opengl after uninstalling amd proprie
[19:33] <TimeVirus> cool then
[19:33] <TimeVirus> thanks
[19:33] <k1l> so the extended counts as one primary then
[19:33] <TimeVirus> right got it thanks
[19:33] <RudyValencia-> Hi, so I'm trying to set up an email server for my organization, is there a good guide on how to set up a proper, secure email server?
[19:34] <ioria> RudyValencia-, sure ... give me a sec
[19:34] <RudyValencia> thanks
[19:35] <zerobyte> RudyValencia: i like this one -> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Mail_Server_setup
[19:35] <AloeVera> Hello!
[19:36] <RudyValencia> does it provide secure (TLS-encrypted) access?
[19:36] <zerobyte> yes
[19:36] <yorwos> does this opengl thing have to do with xorg.conf maybe or should i look other solutions ?
[19:36] <magicuk> finaly :)
[19:36] <magicuk> sorry about that lol
[19:36] <zerobyte> lol
[19:36] <genii> yorwos: Did you purge the proprietary ones as described here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/VideoDriverDetection#Problem:_Need_to_purge_-fglrx
[19:36] <AloeVera> yorwos: didnt see your issue, but openGL problems are usually related to your drivers
[19:37] <ioria> RudyValencia-, in two words, you have to install postfix and dovecot, plus amavis clamav and if you want virtual user a database managment...
[19:38] <ioria> RudyValencia, sure if you configure postfix and dovecot
[19:38] <yorwos> i used http://askubuntu.com/questions/68306/how-do-i-remove-the-proprietary-ati-drivers the commands seem to be the same
[19:38] <RudyValencia> ah
[19:38] <RudyValencia> OK I'll try again :)
[19:39] <ioria> RudyValencia, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Mail_Server_setup
[19:39] <gunnar> ioria:  One quick question, just for kicks I want to set up my own mail server, I'm thinking about forwarding all my gmal stuff there.  What do you think about anubis and an intermediary?
[19:39] <gunnar> anubis as an intermediary*
[19:39] <stacks88> RudyValencia google iredmail
[19:39] <ioria> RudyValencia, a smart host is another thing...
[19:39] <stacks88> its a good solution rolled into one
[19:40] <yorwos> ok i have to reboot brb
[19:40] <stacks88> but you may want to create a guest linux vm for it and run it on there
[19:40] <stacks88> i too was needign a mail solution
[19:40] <ioria> RudyValencia, i thought it was for internal usage
[19:40] <stacks88> and im telling you iredmail was a savior
[19:40] <ioria> RudyValencia, but it can be done
[19:40] <stacks88> It uses dovecot, postfix and all that
[19:40] <RudyValencia> all it will be is email for a handful of domains
[19:41] <RudyValencia> and with aliases
[19:41] <RudyValencia> I'll try out iredmail :)
[19:41] <ioria> RudyValencia, virtual users you eman ?
[19:41] <gunnar> ioria: do you know anything at all about anubisÐ
[19:41] <RudyValencia> gunnar: no
[19:41] <RudyValencia> oops, sorry
[19:42] <ioria> gunnar ... not at the moment , sorry :_(
[19:42] <RudyValencia> ioria: yeah, e.g. info@example.com goes to ducky@example.com and legs@example.com
[19:42] <gunnar> ioria: that's ok, thanks anyway :)
[19:42] <ioria> RudyValencia, yes, np
[19:42] <RudyValencia> hm, $500 for iredadmin with web panel is a bit much
[19:42] <RudyValencia> oops iredmail
[19:42] <stacks88> RudyValencia you dont need the pro panel
[19:42] <stacks88> it comes w/ free panel
[19:43] <ioria> RudyValencia, :-)
[19:43] <RudyValencia> oh, does it provide enough to configure simple email with secure (TLS) access and virtual addresses?
[19:43] <stacks88> yeah
[19:43] <ioria> RudyValencia, it's not difficult... i was looking for a good link... that now exists only in italian..
[19:43] <stacks88> RudyValencia i was just like you. I was sitting there trying to do dovecot and postfix by hand and all that, and its possible, but screw all that. iredmail is one big solution its dope. trust me, you'll see. Create a linux guest vm and put it on there and you will see
[19:44] <RudyValencia> stacks88: I'll just set it up on this new Linode VM I'm building
[19:44] <gunnar> stacks88: You wouldn't happen to be one of the devs if iredmail, would you? :P
[19:44] <gunnar> of*
[19:44] <ioria> RudyValencia,  here we are: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer
[19:44] <stacks88> gunnar did you do /msg or /notice
[19:45] <stacks88> so i know how to reply back
[19:45] <RudyValencia> I'll give iredmail a try
[19:45] <gunnar> I'm just messing with ya, I'm clearly not in any useful gear.  off to offtopic I go.
[19:45] <stacks88> no i know
[19:45] <stacks88> but ive been wondering
[19:46] <stacks88> when people send me a message that way
[19:46] <stacks88> its the same way you sent it
[19:46] <stacks88> so im asking you, did you do /msg or /notice
[19:46] <gunnar> using a cli irc client, do no idea.
[19:46] <gunnar> so*
[19:47] <gunnar> Going to off-topic before I feel the fury of OerHeks
[19:48] <yorwos> my opengl kwin issue didnt resolve unfortunately
[19:49] <AloeVera> OOH IVE DEALT WITH THAT
[19:49] <AloeVera> try setting it to xrender
[19:50] <yorwos> xrender goes by default now , but i cant use wobble and magic lamp and i dont know what else i was using
[19:50] <AloeVera>  welp
[19:50] <AloeVera> try openGL3 + egl
[19:52] <yorwos> i tried all possible combos , xrender-1.2-2-3.1 and native-raster in each but none works
[19:52] <AloeVera> sounds like a video driver issue then?
[19:52] <Puppolo_killer> ciao
[19:54] <yorwos> dunno ... shouold i try to install amd proprie again to see if it fixes itself i guess ?
[19:54] <yorwos> i dont see much left to try
[19:54] <yorwos> reinstalled xorg and all
[19:54] <ioria> gunnar have a good supper ... bye
[19:55] <EriC^^> yorwos: did you install the ati driver from their website?
[19:55] <mmiller13> Does anyone know if apt-get dis-upgrade would also upgrade my kernel
[19:55] <EriC^^> mmiller13: yeah
[19:55] <yorwos> i had installed it from the website yes
[19:55] <EriC^^> it does
[19:55] <mmiller13> Thanks...
[19:55] <EriC^^> yorwos: ok and you tried to remove it and stuff got messed up?
[19:56] <EriC^^> yorwos: there's supposed to be an uninstall bin in /usr/share/ati or so, i didn't find it though
[19:57] <EriC^^> and purging it and reinstalling the xorg ones wouldn't boot so i had to reinstall the ati ones
[19:57] <yorwos> i removed it and kwin window manager running on top of my xfce lost some effects with the error u need opengl for this and click opengl options does nothing
[19:57] <mmiller13> Does anyone know why my comp keeps overheating? Especially when I use excell graphics
[19:57] <EriC^^> and some way or another when i ran dist-upgrade a few days later everything worked again and im back on the open source ones
[19:57] <yorwos> i booted , and for some reason i have no xorg.conf anymore but im using graphics heh
[19:58] <yorwos> some thiings came up on update lets hope
[19:59] <EriC^^> it might work
[20:00] <EriC^^> yorwos: it asked me whether i wanted to remove fglrx-core and something else
[20:00] <postmodern> how does one undo a dpkg --add --rename --divert ?
[20:01] <yorwos> well ill just update xorg and reboot
[20:01] <yorwos> just in cases the updates needs it
[20:02] <EriC^^> try sudo apt-get install --reintall xserver-xorg-video-all
[20:03] <yorwos> ok did it
[20:03] <yorwos> rebooting heh
[20:03] <yorwos> brb
[20:07] <yorwos> YEAA :D its fixed
[20:07] <EriC^^> cool :D
[20:08] <john_doe_jr> how to merge unallocated space using gparted ubuntu
[20:08] <yorwos> thanx :)
[20:08] <EriC^^> yorwos: no problem :)
[20:10] <nicolas_> ok
[20:10] <MonkeyDust> john_doe_jr  if both partitions are primary or extended (must be the same) : backup, then delete the other partition, merge, put data back
[20:12] <EriC^^> john_doe_jr: boot a live usb if it's an ubuntu partition and right click and click on resize
[20:13] <EriC^^> john_doe_jr: backing up first is probably a good idea
[20:14] <MonkeyDust> john_doe_jr  EriC^^ resizing without dataloss can be done, technically, but it takes forever (I tried it)
[20:15] <EriC^^> MonkeyDust: never tried it but i guess it would unless the space is right after the partition
[20:15] <EriC^^> then it should only take a few seconds
[20:19] <le_tout_pettit> hello! can anybody help me decide between kubuntu or ubuntu gnome?
[20:19] <le_tout_pettit> in terms of productivity (i'm a translator and an amateur designer)
[20:19] <EriC^^> le_tout_pettit: it's really a matter of preference, try them both and decide
[20:19] <newbnewb> I cant get software manager or software updater to work on a new install
[20:19] <newbnewb> ive reintalled twice
[20:19] <le_tout_pettit> which one has the best software?
[20:20] <newbnewb> ive tried to follow fixes on askubuntu and advice from others online and nothing works....can somebody try and help?
[20:20] <EriC^^> newbnewb: did you end up checksumming the usb?
[20:20] <EriC^^> le_tout_pettit: i never tried kde long enough to know
[20:20] <le_tout_pettit> EriC^^: i find goddies and 'baddies' in both but i see kde apps have a very active app development while gnome is staying in too simple things
[20:20] <EriC^^> i thought it was pretty ugly and bloated (imho) and removed it pretty quickly
[20:20] <yorwos> im a photographer i chose xfce
[20:20] <newbnewb> Eric I dont know how and we lost contact
[20:21] <newbnewb> I had no idea where we were in terminal...I was just doing what you said
[20:21] <yorwos> xfce+kwin on top heh
[20:21] <le_tout_pettit> lol
[20:21] <EriC^^> newbnewb: i got disconnected
[20:21] <yorwos> i like the fact the panels r so customizable , im running 3 of them around my screen
[20:22] <newbnewb> sure I wasnt complaining....just saying I had no idea how to continue
[20:22] <newbnewb> and nobody picked it up
[20:22] <EriC^^> newbnewb: mount the usb again and then open a terminal and type lsblk
[20:22] <le_tout_pettit> i have a weird feeling, i love gnome shell, it's behavior and its look but here i'm feeling i'm loosing amazing kde apps
[20:22] <le_tout_pettit> :S
[20:22] <EriC^^> newbnewb: i know
[20:22] <newbnewb> ok I did that
[20:23] <newbnewb> toshiba@toshibalaptop:~$ lsblk NAME                         MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT sda                            8:0    0 111.8G  0 disk  ├─sda1                         8:1    0   243M  0 part /boot ├─sda2                         8:2    0     1K  0 part  └─sda5                         8:5    0 111.6G  0 part    ├─ubuntu--vg-root (dm-0)   252:0    0 109.6G  0 lvm  /   └─ubuntu--vg-swap_1 (dm-1) 252:1   
[20:23] <yorwos> when u say shell u mean the terminal ?
[20:23] <le_tout_pettit> nope, i mean gnome-shell
[20:23] <le_tout_pettit> lol
[20:23] <EriC^^> newbnewb: paste in paste.ubuntu.com
[20:23] <MonkeyDust> newbnewb  next time, use a !pastebin for such long pastes
[20:24] <newbnewb> paste.ubuntu.com only?
[20:24] <yorwos> the system can ban u for long pastes i was banned for it heh
[20:24] <yorwos> its automatic
[20:24] <EriC^^> newbnewb: or any other pastebin
[20:24] <EriC^^> newbnewb: mount the usb in nautilus
[20:24] <newbnewb> i mean I was confused as to exactly what to enter and what was instruction
[20:24] <newbnewb> just put "paste.ubuntu.com" and enter?
[20:25] <EriC^^> newbnewb: oh, no it's a website
[20:25] <newbnewb> you want me to go to ubuntu.com?
[20:25] <newbnewb> im lost
[20:25] <EriC^^> le_tout_pettit: like what kde apps?
[20:25] <MirodroidU2> le_tout_pettit, Gnome-shell is a terminal :|
[20:26] <EriC^^> le_tout_pettit: you could install the apps i think, it would install the qt libraries and you could use the apps too i think
[20:26] <MirodroidU2> same with Konsole
[20:26] <le_tout_pettit> like digikam, krita, lokalize, for example
[20:28] <le_tout_pettit> but lokalize for example even install dolphin
[20:28] <le_tout_pettit> it's like i don't want a gnome with dolphin :S that's weird lol
[20:29] <newbnewb> can anyone else help me? EricC doesnt have stable enough internet it seems
[20:29] <EriC^> newbnewb: i got dc
[20:30] <newbnewb> I know...your internet is worse than mine ;)
[20:30] <newbnewb> jesus
[20:30] <newbnewb> its pointless
[20:30] <EriC^> yeah usually i use another connection but it's limited traffic and i've not recharged yet
[20:30] <newbnewb> ok
[20:30] <EriC^> anyways yeah go to paste.ubuntu.com and paste whatever output you get
[20:31] <ferz> Hi
[20:31] <EriC^> or install pastebinit and it'll upload the output for you and give you a link
[20:31] <EriC^> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[20:31] <newbnewb> command not found
[20:31] <newbnewb> ok
[20:31] <ferz> I've a trouble with laptop keyboard: it seems disabled. I've to use a external usb keyboard.
[20:32] <EriC^> ferz: does it work right after the pc boots?
[20:32] <EriC^> like for the bios?
[20:32] <newbnewb> @EricC sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[20:32] <newbnewb> oops sorry
[20:32] <newbnewb> Reading package lists... Error! E: Read error - read (5: Input/output error) E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. toshiba@toshibalaptop:~$
[20:32] <newbnewb> this is what I get whenever I try to instal/uninstall/purge anything
[20:33] <ferz> EriC^: it worked fine until last afternoon suspend
[20:33] <EriC^> ferz: turn off the laptop, remove the battery and put it back in
[20:33] <newbnewb> same output when I tried to uninstall and reinstall Softwre manager etc
[20:33] <ferz> EriC^: I've not modified the bios
[20:33] <EriC^> ferz: you could hold the power button if you wanted to make sure the capacitors all discharge
[20:33] <ferz> EriC^: ok
[20:34] <EriC^> newbnewb: ok mount the usb
[20:34] <newbnewb> its mounted
[20:34] <EriC^> ok type df | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:34] <ferz> EriC^: so you think that's a pc trouble not an OS trouble.
[20:35] <OerHeks> newbnewb, do you run this in terminal with softwarecenter open, by any chance?
[20:35] <newbnewb> http://termbin.com/gyyu toshiba@toshibalaptop:~$
[20:35] <EriC^> ferz: try to enter the bios to know if it's an os or pc issue
[20:35] <ronh> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq says I need 20 GB swap to be able to hibernate on a system with 16GB ram.. not 16+1?
[20:35] <newbnewb> OerHeks Sotware Center and Software Updater wont open
[20:35] <EriC^> ferz: i think it might have to do with the pc not shutting off properly and removing the battery might fix it
[20:35] <newbnewb> they start....dont populate...then go away
[20:35] <udevd> could anyone download driver.tar.gz from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1267961&page=12 and send it to udev.at@gmail.com?
[20:35] <ferz> EriC^: thank you
[20:35] <udevd> i do not want to register just for some attachment
[20:36] <EriC^> ferz: no problem
[20:36] <newbnewb> and the notification thing gives an error about packages not being able to open or be parsed
[20:36] <anjo_n3gro> .i,
[20:37] <EriC^> newbnewb: type md5sum -c /media/toshiba/32GB\ USB/md5sum.txt
[20:38] <newbnewb> you want me to paste all output? its a lot and seems rude to fill the entire screen here
[20:38] <udevd> ...pretty please?
[20:38] <udevd> 20:35 < udevd> could anyone download driver.tar.gz from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1267961&page=12 and send it to  udev.at@gmail.com?
[20:38] <EriC^> newbnewb: type md5sum -c /media/toshiba/32GB\ USB/md5sum.txt | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:39] <newbnewb> again a LOT of output
[20:39] <EriC^> newbnewb: any failed files?
[20:39] <ronh> s
[20:39] <newbnewb> mostly saying no such file or firectory and 54 not able to be read
[20:39] <newbnewb> yeah most all say failed
[20:39] <EriC^> newbnewb: type md5sum -c /media/toshiba/32GB\ USB/md5sum.txt | grep -i fail
[20:39] <EriC^> newbnewb: ok, iso downloading time
[20:40] <newbnewb> so its bad?
[20:40] <EriC^> yeah
[20:40] <EriC^> do some say OK and not failed?
[20:40] <EriC^> just a sanity check
[20:40] <newbnewb> how does it work except for the software center and updater if so much is wrong?
[20:40] <newbnewb> let me look again to see if any are ok
[20:41] <EriC^> newbnewb: maybe you have to cd first
[20:41] <newbnewb> EricC all of them say either no such file or directory or failed
[20:41] <EriC^> try cd /media/toshiba/32GB\ USB
[20:41] <EriC^> ok cd first
[20:42] <newbnewb> ok done
[20:42] <newbnewb> how to you go back to main directory just so I know?
[20:42] <EriC^> and type ls and tell us if there is a md5sum.txt file there
[20:42] <newbnewb> toshiba@toshibalaptop:/media/toshiba/32GB USB$ ls autorun.inf  casper-rw  ldlinux.sys  pool                syslinux boot         dists      md5sum.txt   preseed             wubi.exe casper       install    pics         README.diskdefines toshiba@toshibalaptop:/media/toshiba/32GB USB$
[20:42] <EriC^> newbnewb: cd .. takes you back a dir, cd alone takes you to your home dir
[20:43] <EriC^> newbnewb: ok, type md5sum -c md5sum.txt
[20:43] <newbnewb> all say ok this time
[20:44] <EriC^> are you sure
[20:44] <EriC^> try md5sum -c md5sum.txt | grep -i fail
[20:44] <newbnewb> yes its about one page of output and all say ok....will do other command now
[20:45] <newbnewb> toshiba@toshibalaptop:/media/toshiba/32GB USB$ md5sum -c md5sum.txt | grep -i fail
[20:53] <newbnewb> Eric C still there?
[20:53] <EriC^> newbnewb: ok, type sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[20:54] <EriC^> newbnewb: and sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/* just in case
[20:55] <newbnewb> rm: cannot remove ‘/var/lib/apt/lists/partial’: Is a directory
[20:55] <newbnewb> eas output for first one
[20:55] <EriC^> no problem
[20:55] <EriC^> ok
[20:55] <sed> hello all i'm newest
[20:55] <newbnewb> sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*
[20:56] <newbnewb> sorry
[20:56] <newbnewb> rm: cannot remove ‘/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*’: No such file or directory
[20:56] <newbnewb> output for second one
[20:56] <EriC^> newbnewb: type sudo mkdir /var/lib/apt/lists/partial
[20:56] <EriC^> that might be why it wasn't working
[20:57] <newbnewb> mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/var/lib/apt/lists/partial’: File exists
[20:57] <newbnewb> i must be in some twilight zone as nothing anyone tells me works like it should :P
[20:57] <EriC^> those errors dont make sense
[20:57] <newbnewb> yeah so goes everything I do
[20:57] <EriC^> type ls -ld /var/lib/apt/lists/partial
[20:58] <EriC^> ah actually they do
[20:58] <EriC^> the partial dir is empty
[20:58] <newbnewb> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Apr 13 10:19 /var/lib/apt/lists/partial
[20:58] <EriC^> newbnewb: ok, type sudo apt-get update
[20:59] <newbnewb> its working....but it always ends the same with a failure when I do this
[20:59] <MonkeyDust> I wonder, how is it, that newbnewb struggles so hard?
[20:59] <newbnewb> saying unable to parse etc...will see
[20:59] <newbnewb> Monkey Dust I am old and slow....but I am also doing exactly as told and it doesnt work...I dont know ahts wrong
[21:00] <newbnewb> its why I get so frustrated....nothing does as expected
[21:00] <newbnewb> and even you guys who are experts are unable to sort it ...so what chance do I ahve?
[21:01] <newbnewb> maybe I should get an iPad and give up on life :P
[21:02] <k1l> newbnewb: i see you just giving the complain story, again. please stick to actually facts. this is just demotivating others to help you
[21:02] <newbnewb> kll i was just explaining
[21:02] <Nytram> Serious question time. Anyone know an irc where I can talk to webdevs with the view to creating a website for me?
[21:03] <bprompt> Nytram:     #css-lance   or hmmm #web maybe
[21:03] <newbnewb> trying to put human face on my frustration...showing I am trying
[21:03] <k1l> !alis | Nytram try this to find channels
[21:04] <bprompt> Nytram:     there's always    www.rentacoder.com also
[21:05] <twiler> Hello?
[21:05] <bprompt> allo
[21:05] <twiler> Anyone there?
[21:05] <newbnewb> EricC its done and this time didnt end with the usual error
[21:05] <newbnewb> usually ends with failure and unable to parse after all the dowloading
[21:05] <twiler> WOW! Real live oeople!
[21:05] <bprompt> heheh
[21:06] <newbnewb> this time says fetched 22mb and reading lists is done
[21:06] <twiler> OK, I'm gonna ask for help here, and hope that someone can help me!
[21:06] <EriC^> newbnewb: ok, great
[21:06] <bprompt> twiler:     bear in mind the channel topic
[21:07] <EriC^> newbnewb: type sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:07] <newbnewb> oh....usually I am in root right? this time we did it in the usb drive
[21:07] <newbnewb> still from being in usb drive?
[21:07] <twiler> OK, bprompt I apologize
[21:07] <EriC^> newbnewb: yeah it doesn't matter
[21:07] <Nytram> bprompt, Excellent, thank you. 8)
[21:07] <bprompt> np
[21:08] <bprompt> !ask | twiler
[21:08] <newbnewb> ok....says 230mb will be added so will take some time as I have 1mbps internet
[21:08] <newbnewb> probably an hour I think
[21:08] <bprompt> hmmm 230mbs over a 1mbps is peanuts
[21:08] <newbnewb> yeah its out in country and its terrible
[21:09] <bprompt> that should take no more than hmmm about 10mins or less
[21:09] <newbnewb> well a 1gb movie takes 3 or 4 hours so I was guessing
[21:09] <bprompt> newbnewb:   you said 1mbs .....hmmm
[21:09] <OerHeks> newbnewb, that is faster than a 56k6 modem
[21:10] <tasaif> my question is: is it possible to run a 32bit binary on a 64bit platform in userspace?
[21:10] <tasaif> without sudo access
[21:11] <twiler> So I need help starting openbazaar, is there a ./start command in terminal that is standard, or is ./start OpenBazaar correct? I ask, because I can't seem to get it started, so, any help whatsoever would be appreciated, as #openbazaar is all quiet :/
[21:11] <newbnewb> OerHeks I just know its very slow....I had 50 in last place and it was few min per gb......now takes hours
[21:11] <newbnewb> maybe there is another limiting factor I dont understand
[21:11] <EriC^> twiler: how did you install openbazaar?
[21:11] <Nytram> thanks ubottu
[21:11] <tasaif> twiler
[21:12] <tasaif> how did you install openbazaar?
[21:12] <twiler> @EriC using terminal, why?
[21:12] <tasaif> did you do apt-get install (somethign) ?
[21:12] <bprompt> twiler:    you mean, you compiled it?
[21:12] <twiler> @tasaif: using terminal why?
[21:13] <tasaif> twiler: ^
[21:13] <twiler> @bprompt: I don't know what that means, so, I'm gonna assume that I didn't compile it..
[21:13] <genii> "using terminal" is not specific enough. You coulod have wgettted it from somewhere and then ran make, or you could have ran apt-get install, or any number of things in the terminal
[21:13] <twiler> IT was an apt-get
[21:14] <EriC^> twiler: did you type sudo apt-get install openbazaar ? or cd openbazaar and make make install ?
[21:14] <twiler> @genii using apt-get
[21:14] <tasaif> twiler did you check your start menu or equivalent to see if an entry was created?
[21:14] <twiler> @EriC sudo apt-get
[21:14] <EriC^> twiler: ok, are you using unity?
[21:14] <tasaif> did you type bazaar into the unity thing and see if anything came up?
[21:14] <k1l> its not in the repos, afaik
[21:14] <EriC^> or xubuntu etc. ?
[21:15] <tasaif> k1l: maybe he added a different repo
[21:15] <k1l> i guess we will never know :/
[21:15] <twiler> um.. no, let me check, although every single other time i started the application, it was using terminal
[21:15] <twiler> but, I will check, brb
[21:15] <EriC^> apt-cache policy guys
[21:16] <tasaif> wuzzat?
[21:16] <Namedotval> is there any way to bind another key to scroll xterm? my mousewheel is broken and my laptop doesnt have pgup/pgdown
[21:16] <tasaif> EriC^: oh cool, learn something new every day
[21:16] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bzr
[21:17] <twiler> OK, there is no start menu entry whatsoever
[21:18] <OerHeks> !info qbzr
[21:18] <EriC^> twiler: if you're using unity open the dash and type bazaar
[21:19] <EriC^> twiler: if you're on xubuntu try alt+f2 i think
[21:19] <tasaif> OerHeks: openbazaar != bazaar
[21:19] <twiler> I get the folder that it's installed to and a file called openbazaar in that folder, but, no icon like there is for say, Google Chrome, when I type "chrome"
[21:19] <EriC^> twiler: what folder?
[21:20] <EriC^> twiler: you mean in the dash?
[21:20] <EriC^> twiler: type dpkg -l | grep bazaar
[21:20] <twiler> Yes, if I type it into the screen that comes up when I hit the "super" key?
[21:20] <twiler> That's the dash, right?
[21:21] <EriC^> yeah
[21:21] <EriC^> twiler: type dpkg -l | grep "bazaar\|bzr" | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:22] <promet> has anyone tried running 14.10 from a pendrive? it seems to be eerily fast...
[21:22] <tasaif> EriC^: learned 2 newe things today
[21:22] <twiler> OK EriC I typed that
[21:22] <twiler> and hit enter
[21:22] <EriC^> tasaif: cool
[21:23] <EriC^> twiler: ok, what's the link it gavE?
[21:23] <twiler> http://termbin.com/nec0
[21:23] <twiler> Is that what you were expecting?
[21:24] <twiler> Hey, Eric, I have to jet for about 20  minutes, but I will be bafk
[21:24] <EriC^> well, not what i wanted no
[21:24] <twiler> back8
[21:24] <twiler> ok?
[21:24] <EriC^> twiler: ok
[21:24] <twiler> Thank you SO much@
[21:24] <twiler> I mean it, big time!
[21:24] <EriC^> no problem!
[21:25] <tasaif> twiler: try openbazaar start
[21:25] <twiler> EriC you have always been a great help to me, every single time I have needed your help
[21:26] <EriC^> twiler: you're welcome :)
[21:30] <daved_> Hi! Is this a good channel to ask about LVM setup/usage?
[21:30] <newbnewb> EricC its unpacking things but an alert also came up on desktop saying "system alert report problem yes or no"
[21:30] <newbnewb> does show what problem though
[21:31] <newbnewb> "System problem detected" "do you want to report Problem?"
[21:31] <EriC^> newbnewb: it's usually nothing, if you press details it should say what crashed
[21:31] <newbnewb> no details button
[21:31] <EriC^> it's not a big deal though, i used to get a lot too, you can disable it if you want
[21:31] <newbnewb> choices are cancel and report
[21:31] <newbnewb> ok
[21:31] <EriC^> report if you want
[21:32] <sga> Hi everyone, I'm having difficulties to run the rc.local script at startup, although it runs fine manually. It is executable by everyone (-rwxr-xr-x), but it doesn't run at startup. I'm a bit puzzled
[21:32] <EriC^> sga: what are you trying to run in it?
[21:33] <newbnewb> "sorry ubuntu has experienced an internal error"
[21:33] <daved_> I am confused about LVM: I installed assuming I could easily resize filesystem folders, but doesn't seem so
[21:33] <newbnewb> another alert says restart firefox....should I do that and come back or what for terminal to finish?
[21:33] <sga> Eric^: http://dpaste.com/1JDPW3F
[21:34] <sga> basic shell commands : launch guake and another program
[21:34] <EriC^> newbnewb: you can restart firefox it probably got updated
[21:34] <newbnewb> ok brb
[21:35] <EriC^> sga: yuo can't launch quake from rc.local
[21:35] <EriC^> *guake
[21:35] <EriC^> that's run by root before you even login to your user
[21:35] <sga> EriC^: but when I start Linux, guake is not executing. I need to start it manually
[21:36] <EriC^> sga: open the dash and type startup and add the programs there
[21:36] <Nytram> Exactly
[21:36] <Nytram> Was reading this and thinking "what?"
[21:36] <sga> I'm on Linux Mint, so I'm not sure I can do that
[21:36] <Nytram> Yes you can
[21:36] <Nytram> I use mint
[21:37] <sga> Okay, is dash a program ?
[21:37] <Nytram> But in Windows 7 right now. heheh
[21:37] <sga> I feel you
[21:37] <wafflejock> sga, you don't need dash just the startup applications GUI ideally, dash is just used for searching installed apps basically
[21:37] <oussama> hello
[21:37] <Nytram> Hey oussama
[21:37] <newbnewb> EricC its done
[21:38] <newbnewb> toshiba@toshibalaptop:/media/toshiba/32GB USB$
[21:38] <sga> Ah, I located the startup application
[21:38] <Nytram> ;0
[21:38] <Nytram> oops
[21:38] <Nytram> ;)
[21:39] <sga> Okay, so guake apparently is started with this tool
[21:39] <sga> But it actually is not started when I boot Linux
[21:39] <EriC^> newbnewb: ok
[21:39] <tgm4883> sga: have you tried the Linux Mint channel?
[21:39] <wafflejock> sga, hmm works here, have guake and just have it running on startup not sure about mint though I'm on Ubuntu Gnome
[21:40] <tgm4883> !mint | sgsa
[21:40] <tgm4883> sga^
[21:40] <sga> tgm4483: yes, but not responding atm
[21:41] <tgm4883> sga: so you thought you would try here, where none of us know what changes linux mint has done to anything?
[21:43] <sga> tgm4483: I'm a new Linux user, I don't exactly know what is common between distros and what is not, so I figured I could ask here
[21:43] <sga> wafflejock: hmm ok, I'm going to look more
[21:44] <tgm4883> sga: ok, well official Ubuntu flavors are supported here. Derivatives are not as we don't know what changes they have made that could be breaking what you are seeing
[21:44] <sga> tgm4883: thanks for the tip
[21:47] <newbnewb> EricC what should I do next?
[21:47] <EriC^^> newbnewb: whatever you want :)
[21:47] <newbnewb> its finsihed?
[21:48] <EriC^^> yeah
[21:48] <EriC^^> you could add the universe repository if it's not added yet
[21:48] <newbnewb> how to do this?
[21:48] <newbnewb> ah software manager is missing as well now
[21:48] <newbnewb> disappeared from dock
[21:49] <EriC^^> open the dash and type software then click on ..
[21:49] <EriC^^> ok type software and if you get software center click and drag it to the launcher
[21:49] <newbnewb> ok did it
[21:50] <newbnewb> EricC ok software center opened right....
[21:50] <EriC^^> ok click on edit > software sources
[21:51] <newbnewb> EricC sorry I dont see edit anywhere
[21:51] <newbnewb> oh damn...in menu...im stupid sorry
[21:51] <EriC^^> up to the left in the global menu
[21:52] <newbnewb> ok now what?
[21:53] <newbnewb> it doesnt do anything when I choose software sources...just closes menu
[21:53] <EriC^^> clink on universe so it has a check
[21:53] <EriC^^> newbnewb: ok open the dash and type software then click on software & updates
[21:54] <newbnewb> nothing happens
[21:54] <EriC^^> open a terminal and type software-properties-gtk
[21:54] <newbnewb> ugh....more things not working :P
[21:54] <newbnewb> ok
[21:55] <newbnewb> i did this and nothing happens...jsut puts root prompt again
[21:55] <newbnewb> i wonder why nothing works as it should....
[21:55] <EriC^^> !find software-properties-gtk
[21:55] <EriC^^> newbnewb: type sudo apt-get install --reinstall software-properties-gtk
[21:56] <EriC^^> newbnewb: did you reboot after the upgrade?
[21:56] <newbnewb> Eric do you know why so many things were out of whack compared to usual?
[21:57] <newbnewb> Ah no didnt...was I supposed to? Sorry
[21:57] <EriC^^> newbnewb: well if it installed a new kernel, you could boot into it and use it
[21:58] <newbnewb> so should I reboot now? or keep going in terminal? I did the resintall and it worked
[21:58] <EriC^^> newbnewb: well try opening it again
[21:58] <newbnewb> ok its open now
[21:59] <EriC^^> ok nice
[21:59] <newbnewb> what do I do in it now?
[21:59] <EriC^^> click on universe so it has a check next to it
[21:59] <EriC^^> it's the second one i think
[22:00] <newbnewb> already checked
[22:00] <EriC^^> ok, if you want codecs and mp3 stuff and stuff with copyrights etc click the 2 below it
[22:00] <EriC^^> multiverse and something i forgot what
[22:00] <newbnewb> ok
[22:00] <newbnewb> they are all chekced
[22:00] <EriC^^> ok
[22:01] <newbnewb> except source code
[22:01] <EriC^^> not needed unless you want to download source code
[22:01] <newbnewb> ok
[22:01] <shovel_boss>  http://youtu.be/P32JDvu0b-0
[22:01] <mmiller13> Does anyone have a solution to this: I upgrade my distro using apt-get and I opt to modify my grub so I dont have the entry to select the new distro on startup
[22:01] <mmiller13> heed help
[22:01] <shovel_boss> you are much welcone
[22:01] <newbnewb> options are revert and close
[22:02] <EriC^^> newbnewb: ok, click close
[22:02] <roundcirle> mmiller13: never upgrade your distor
[22:02] <roundcirle> *distro
[22:02] <mmiller13> why not
[22:02] <EriC^^> newbnewb: you can customize the terminal if you want
[22:02] <roundcirle> mmiller13: except you like pain
[22:02] <OerHeks> !ot | shovel_boss
[22:02] <sga> !guidelines
[22:02] <EriC^^> newbnewb: and install compiz and use the click on launcher item to minimize which is pretty useful
[22:03] <roundcirle> mmiller13: depending on the case i suggest a fresh install
[22:03] <newbnewb> ok
[22:03] <mmiller13> ok but my question is how to add the new entry to grub
[22:03] <newbnewb> so do I need to do anything else to make it normal? or should it be back to what it should have been after installing?
[22:03] <roundcirle> mmiller13: you also get rid of corrupted stuff that piles up somewhere nobody looks for
[22:03] <roundcirle> mmiller13: oh sorry XD
[22:03] <roundcirle> mmiller13: so its too late now
[22:03] <OerHeks> roundcirle, fud! upgrade is not a problem. and there will be a cleanup.
[22:03] <newbnewb> i want to make sure I am starting from the beginning so I dont mess somehting up
[22:04] <mmiller13> ok but I need to a way to select the new installation on the grub screen
[22:04] <EriC^^> newbnewb: i've no idea, seems you had a problem with the software center
[22:04] <Bashing-om> mmiller13: Have you ran terminal command -> sudo update-grub <- ? To pick up new/added items ?
[22:04] <roundcirle> mmiller13: im looking for it, sorry for irritating you
[22:05] <newbnewb> so is there some command or package I can install that will make it like it should be from start?
[22:05] <EriC^^> newbnewb: what do you mean?
[22:05] <EriC^^> newbnewb: you want to checksum the whole installation ( metaphorically )
[22:05] <EriC^^> :D
[22:05] <newbnewb> i mean I would like to have it set up like it should be from a normal install....so I can try and learn and change from there
[22:06] <newbnewb> and make sure I am not starting with other things not as they should be
[22:06] <newbnewb> is it possible?
[22:06] <EriC^^> newbnewb: well, you could attempt something
[22:06] <newbnewb> or I just have to try and see if any new troubles happen?
[22:06] <EriC^^> or that :P
[22:06] <EriC^^> there's debsums , it's supposed to check the md5sum of all the packages that are installed
[22:06] <EriC^^> !info debsums
[22:07] <newbnewb> ok...and the question I first came here for before software center broke....how can I make all apps show in one folder?
[22:07] <EriC^^> you could run it if you wanted, it would take an hour i guess
[22:07] <EriC^^> maybe less
[22:07] <newbnewb> ive tried selecting filter for apps and it only shows 6 of them....and some only show in dock
[22:08] <EriC^^> newbnewb: press super+a
[22:08] <EriC^^> then show all items
[22:08] <newbnewb> sorry what is super?
[22:08] <EriC^^> the win key
[22:08] <newbnewb> i dont have a win key
[22:08] <EriC^^> or open the dash and click on the app icon at the bottom
[22:08] <newbnewb> ctrl fn alt
[22:08] <EriC^^> newbnewb: it's the one next to alt
[22:09] <EriC^^> oh ok
[22:09] <mmiller13> If I apt-get dist-upgrade would that go through the installation process over again or would it skipped whats already been installed
[22:09] <newbnewb> is there a way to have a top level folder with all apps on dock or desktop?
[22:10] <newbnewb> so I dont have to search or go three levels into dash?
[22:10] <EriC^^> newbnewb: yeah type ln -s ~/Desktop /usr/share/applications
[22:10] <newbnewb> normally in osx I have a folder in dock for apps....and all show there
[22:10] <EriC^^> newbnewb: yeah type ln -s ~/Desktop/apps /usr/share/applications
[22:11] <newbnewb> ln: failed to create symbolic link ‘/usr/share/applications/apps’: Permission denied
[22:12] <bprompt> newbnewb:    maybe you meant    ln -s /usr/share/applications ~/Desktop/apps
[22:12] <EriC^^> newbnewb: ah sorry, ln -s /usr/share/applications ~/Desktop/apps
[22:12] <newbnewb> thanks....now can I put it in the dock?
[22:13] <newbnewb> it doesnt seem to allow dragging there
[22:14] <EriC^^> newbnewb: you want it like a menu?
[22:14] <newbnewb> when i first came here my problem was trying to get folders in the dock....so I could have apps folder, photos folder, mucis folder etc all in dock
[22:14] <EriC^^> newbnewb: you want to click on it and have it open the dir?
[22:14] <newbnewb> I guess.....in osx dock I have few apps on one side...then a divider....then few folders on right
[22:14] <EriC^^> newbnewb: or hover over it and display?
[22:14] <newbnewb> I guess? Sorry I am not sure about terminlogy.
[22:14] <mmiller13> Bashing-om: Would sudo upgrade-grub add the new os installation to the grub menu
[22:15] <EriC^^> newbnewb: if you want to click on it and have it open in the file manager then it's pretty easy
[22:15] <newbnewb> ok how to do that?
[22:16] <EriC^^> newbnewb: if you want to hover over it and have it display stuff i'm not sure how you could do that without cairo dock etc.
[22:16] <EriC^^> cairo dock is pretty similar to mac btw
[22:16] <EriC^^> i guess
[22:16] <newbnewb> yeah osx displays with hover I guess but its same use for me to have it open to window....I just want to minimize my clicks....see all apps with one click from dock....all music etc
[22:17] <newbnewb> what do you think is best option?
[22:17] <newbnewb> goal is to reduce clicks to get to stuff
[22:17] <EriC^^> music is like 2 clicks away
[22:17] <EriC^^> nautilus > music
[22:17] <newbnewb> i dont know what nautilus is
[22:17] <EriC^^> the file manager
[22:18] <newbnewb> ah
[22:18] <EriC^^> alt+tab is pretty useful
[22:18] <newbnewb> so can I reduce that by one and ahve the music folder in the dock?
[22:18] <newbnewb> same with apps...photos...videos
[22:18] <newbnewb> is cairo a dock like docky?
[22:19] <newbnewb> hmmm I just looked at that app shortcut we made on desktop and there aren't any icons
[22:20] <newbnewb> its blank white icons or ones with gibberish
[22:20] <newbnewb> photo lens for unity is only thing in there with an actual stylized icon
[22:22] <EriC^^> newbnewb: yeah, type sudo cp /usr/share/applications/nautilus.desktop /usr/share/applications/mymusic.desktop
[22:22] <EriC^^> newbnewb: try nautilus /usr/share/applications
[22:23] <orafu> my unity-2d on precise has become transparent: it does not show a menu bar or launcher anymore. But they remain functional: a mouse-over gives me tooltips and mouse clicks work as usual;  what can I do to get the menu and launcher (and Docky, BTW) displayed again?  (I already killed unity-2d-panel and unity-2d-shell and they restarted, but nothing changed)
[22:24] <newbnewb> Eric that second one brought up a window with all apps...but its not anywhere in an icon on dock...when I close it its gone
[22:24] <newbnewb> the one we made before on dock is still messed up
[22:24] <newbnewb> should I delete that old one?
[22:24] <EriC^^> newbnewb: the one on the desktop?
[22:25] <orafu> is my problem related to compiz?
[22:26] <newbnewb> the first one we made that is a file thatsays "apps" and has a lock in corner is on desktop....its not correct inside....when I used the nautilus /usr/share/applications command a window ipens from the nautilus icon but when I close it goes back in there and I cant open it directly without command again
[22:27] <newbnewb> I want to put an app folder in the dock...that clicking will show all apps like that command does
[22:27] <newbnewb> that command produces a window with all apps just like I want....but its not reproducable without typing in terminal again
[22:28] <twokay> Just sayin...job interview tomorrow...panic is setting in...servers are nearly setup...portfolio is nearly done...wish me luck! :)
[22:29] <EriC^^> newbnewb: ok
[22:29] <EriC^^> newbnewb: yeah, type sudo cp /usr/share/applications/nautilus.desktop /usr/share/applications/allapps.desktop
[22:30] <EriC^^> do one that's called mymusic.desktop and any other dirs you want to put on the launcher
[22:30] <newbnewb> ok will try....I tried to copy the app folder to the desktop to try and it messes the icons up inside....dont knw why
[22:31] <newbnewb> EricC nothing happened
[22:33] <EriC^^> newbnewb: if it returns nothing then it worked
[22:33] <newbnewb> if I open dash and go to computer/user/share there is a folder "applications"...just what I want in the dock....
[22:33] <EriC^^> newbnewb: type sudo nano /usr/share/applications/allapps.desktop
[22:33] <EriC^^> newbnewb: or just cd first to /usr/share/applications , and type sudo nano allapps.desktop
[22:33] <newbnewb> but there is no new folder in dock
[22:34] <EriC^^> newbnewb: it's there but you need to edit the name and command
[22:35] <orafu> hmmm... after more than 1 hour, the menu and launcher came back
[22:35] <newbnewb> I did the last command and the output is this
[22:35] <newbnewb> [Desktop Entry] Name=Files Comment=Access and organize files Keywords=folder;manager;explore;disk;filesystem; Exec=nautilus --new-window %U Icon=system-file-manager Terminal=false Type=Application StartupNotify=true OnlyShowIn=GNOME;Unity; Categories=GNOME;GTK;Utility;Core;FileManager; MimeType=inode/directory;application/x-gnome-saved-search; X-GNOME-Bugzilla-Bugzilla=GNOME X-GNOME-Bugzilla-Product=nautilus X-GNOME-Bugzilla-Component=g
[22:36] <newbnewb> and I see no new folder or icon in dock
[22:36] <EriC^^> newbnewb: paste in paste.ubuntu.com
[22:36] <EriC^^> newbnewb: ok, change Name= to Name=Music
[22:36] <newbnewb> where? right now there is no prompt
[22:36] <EriC^^> newbnewb: i mean Name=Apps
[22:37] <EriC^^> newbnewb: after you type sudo nano allapps.desktop
[22:37] <EriC^^> that's a text editor
[22:37] <newbnewb> ok did it
[22:37] <newbnewb> X? for exit?
[22:37] <newbnewb> shift X?
[22:37] <EriC^^> ctrl+o to save
[22:37] <EriC^^> hold on
[22:38] <EriC^^> change the name
[22:38] <EriC^^> and Exec=nautilus /usr/share/applications
[22:38] <econdudeawesome> Howdy all! I tried to install some 32-bit libraries on a 64-bit install, and now I can't get apt-get upgrade to work. Where to start?
[22:39] <newbnewb> EricC change file name to save to apps also?
[22:39] <EriC^^> make a mymusic.desktop too and change the name and replace Exec= with Exec=nautilus /home/<user>/Music
[22:39] <EriC^^> etc.
[22:39]  * EriC^^ goes to get a soda..
[22:39] <newbnewb> im lost
[22:41] <mmiller13> Does anyone know much about apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:42] <mmiller13> I didnt add the option to add the entry to grub bootloader so I cant boot into the new istallation
[22:42] <mmiller13> i used sudo upgrade-grub and still no luck
[22:43] <EriC^^> newbnewb: i dont follow
[22:43] <genii> mmiller13:  It's update, not upgrade. So:  sudo update-grub
[22:43] <EriC^^> mmiller13: you're trying to get grub to appear?
[22:43] <mmiller13> correct update
[22:43] <newbnewb> so I am in that editor...I changed name to Applications
[22:44] <EriC^^> newbnewb: ok, change the Exec=
[22:44] <newbnewb> control O to save it...then it asks "File Name to Write:"
[22:44] <mmiller13> so I need the new installation added to my grub
[22:44] <EriC^^> newbnewb: did you cd to /usr/share/applications earlier?
[22:44] <newbnewb> i have to look...i have a hard time following as I dont know the meaning of these commands mostly
[22:45] <newbnewb> i dont know as I am in this editor and cant look back
[22:45] <newbnewb> i suck at this cli stuff
[22:45] <EriC^^> newbnewb: nevermind, when you press ctrl+o
[22:45] <EriC^^> it should already say allapps.desktop
[22:45] <EriC^^> just hit enter
[22:46] <newbnewb> it moved cursor back up to Name
[22:46] <EriC^^> newbnewb: ok, press ctrl+x
[22:46] <newbnewb> ok...so yes I am in the right directory
[22:46] <EriC^^> yeah
[22:47] <EriC^^> type nautilus /usr/share/applications
[22:47] <EriC^^> and drag the icon that says Applications to the desktop
[22:47] <newbnewb> to desktop or dock?
[22:47] <EriC^^> desktop
[22:48] <newbnewb> error while moving
[22:49] <bishoy> hello
[22:49] <EriC^^> newbnewb: right click > copy
[22:49] <EriC^^> paste it on the desktop
[22:50] <mmiller13> So I thought I run apt-get dist-upgrade again but It wont allow me to re install
[22:50] <newbnewb> my turn to dc....
[22:51] <newbnewb> ok EricC it worked and I put in dock....it looks just like Nautilus....when I repeat for Music etc will they all look like file cabinet too?
[22:51] <newbnewb> actually I dont think I can rpeat as I got lost in the steps :P
[22:51] <ki7mt> Hello all, maybe a question for ubuntu-devel, but does anyone know of a native Ubuntu package that uses diversions ( https://wiki.debian.org/Adding%20and%20removing%20diversions) during installation?
[22:52] <EriC^^> newbnewb: yeah, you can change the icon
[22:53] <newbnewb> how....I right clicked to see if there was some options....nothing is intuitive or where I think it would be
[22:53] <newbnewb> no properties or settings etc with a right click on the icon
[22:54] <EriC^^> newbnewb: you have to change it in the .desktop file
[22:54] <EriC^^> Icon=
[22:54] <Kenb52> Hi All I figured out the easy way to install format and use a hard drive in Ubuntu and/or Zorin Linux. Use Disk Util also known as Disks in Zorin. But do not use Gparted.
[22:54] <OerHeks> !info  dpkg-divert
[22:55] <newbnewb> where is that?
[22:55] <newbnewb> why is everything so cryptic? its confusing
[22:55] <newbnewb> nothing is obvious
[22:55] <EriC^^> newbnewb: sudo nano allapps.desktop
[22:55] <newbnewb> how can I find it in the gui?
[22:56] <genii> OerHeks: dpkg-divert is part of dpkg package
[22:56] <newbnewb> i have no idea what I am doing in the terminal and am just transcribing instructons....I need to see it to understandit
[22:56] <OerHeks> thanks genii just found http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man8/dpkg-divert.8.html but not sure this is what ki7mt needs
[22:56] <ki7mt> OerHeks, It does exist: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man8/dpkg-divert.8.html
[22:57] <newbnewb> i dont think I can repeat this process for music and pictures etc as it was so confusing I got lost
[22:57] <Kenb52> Ny question of the day, is this. I added to Startup tool, to mount my Network share, and In PCMANFM It is bookmarked. That seemed to work perfect but some particular 3rd party apps, still do not seem to see it until you open up PCMANFM.  So I am wondering beyond using say Gigolo to automount, is there a best way to automount the share, so that Clementine in partitcular can see it?
[22:58] <ki7mt> OerHeks, yes, that's what script I need to use, but I can't find a Ubuntu package that is using it. Mostly they use update-alternatives., which I may have to use that in conjunction with Conflicts: xxx
[22:58] <newbnewb> dammit its not working the same now...the applications icon in the dock opens the home folder now
[22:58] <newbnewb> wtf
[22:59] <newbnewb> and suddenly firefox has no minimize and close buttons
[22:59] <newbnewb> so frustrating
[22:59] <MonkeyDust> newbnewb  whatever went wrong durin installation, all should work out of the box
[23:00] <newbnewb> i thought it should....everything is a mess
[23:00] <malgorath> I have 4 drives in my computer not in use and I was thinking of raiding the, they are all same exact drive type. DOes anyone have a site or link that would help me with this?
[23:00] <newbnewb> i downloaded from the ubuntu site
[23:00] <Kenb52> newbnewb Its an Xwindows problem, but I am newb also
[23:00] <do0fY3> hi all
[23:00] <do0fY3> someone here who wants to help a noob with 1 or 2 thing? :D
[23:00] <Pazooza> Mine does, v37.0.1 from mirrors
[23:01] <newbnewb> EricC.....the Applications Icon we made and put in the dock....it doesnt behave the same now
[23:01] <newbnewb> I open it and it acts just like the nautilus icon...taking me to home
[23:02] <do0fY3> i need help formatting and mouting 2 drives on a ubuntu machine
[23:02] <EriC^^> newbnewb: did it work before?
[23:03] <newbnewb> yes
[23:03] <newbnewb> no idea what happened
[23:03] <newbnewb> I didnt do anything but open it
[23:03] <Kenb52> Deja dup, if you copy around the backup you have to go into location and select the right one, and it seems to list the same hard drive twice, the top one seems to work however.
[23:04] <newbnewb> this is ridiculous
[23:04] <newbnewb> ubuntu was supposed to be newbie friendly
[23:05] <tgm4883> newbnewb: what are you trying to do?
[23:05] <Kenb52> do0fy3: are you installing Ubuntu or just installing more storage drives?
[23:05] <newbnewb> tgm4883 EricC has been helping me all day long....the software manager and software updater were broken....i tried reinstalling a few times....he fixed it but not without troubles
[23:06] <do0fY3> no, i installed zentyal on an ssd. there are 2 more 4TB hdds in there and i want them to perma mount and use them as network storage
[23:06] <tgm4883> newbnewb: something tells me I don't even want to touch this
[23:06] <do0fY3> but i dont even understand how to get them running :D
[23:06] <newbnewb> now I am tyring to put folders in the dock....for apps, music, photos etc so I have easy access to all those at top level
[23:06] <Kenb52> Disk Utility is by far the best way to do stuff rather than GPARTED which will not allow you to own the hard drive after formatting it.
[23:07] <newbnewb> i do exactly what I am told...the outputs don't make sense often...something does work then it breaks suddenly later...I cant even get things stable to start learning
[23:07] <compdoc> newbnewb, those things dont break by themselves, for no reason
[23:07] <newbnewb> they have
[23:07] <newbnewb> everyone says that....then it happens and they say "hmm that doesn make sense"
[23:07] <tgm4883> newbnewb: no... they don't
[23:07] <do0fY3> disk utility? on console?
[23:08] <do0fY3> or via zentyal backend?
[23:08] <newbnewb> tgm...my point is i do something I am told....if it works then it seems to stop later
[23:08] <Kenb52> What makes sense to 1 person does not make sense to all'
[23:08] <newbnewb> this apps folder is an example
[23:08] <tgm4883> newbnewb: so I'm guessing that just right clicking the nautilus icon and clicking on what you want to access is too much?
[23:08] <newbnewb> he helped me create it...put it in doc...it did what I wanted
[23:08] <Kenb52> Can be too much.
[23:08] <newbnewb> its not to much but I simply want to cut one click out and have them on the dock like OSX
[23:08] <newbnewb> its just preference....and I dont know why its so complicated
[23:09] <newbnewb> we did it...it worked...now it doesnt
[23:09] <do0fY3> can someone tell me how to permanent mound sdc oder sdb to a folder?
[23:09] <newbnewb> all I did was open it and close it...second time I opened it something different came up
[23:09] <Kenb52> Hmm my Vizio TV/Monitor does NOT like me turning on my FL gooseneck lamp. It causes the monitor to black out for a second.
[23:09] <newbnewb> EricC are you still here?
[23:09] <tgm4883> newbnewb: I've got to head home soon, but can you pastebin what is in that file?
[23:10] <newbnewb> tgm I dont know what pastebin means....I am brand new...and have spent 3 days trying to get installed and set up
[23:10] <newbnewb> and its still wonky
[23:11] <newbnewb> everyone tells me different commands or advice....80% doesnt work...then people get irritated at me
[23:11] <tgm4883> !pastebin | newbnewb
[23:11] <newbnewb> i just wanted to install...and learn
[23:11] <Kenb52> So does anyone know how to make Clementine music player, to see the bookmarked shares ??
[23:12] <Kenb52> Only when system is first booted. You open PCMANFM and after that it is fine.
[23:12] <newbnewb> i dont even understand what I a supposed to paste.....shit
[23:12] <newbnewb> three days of this is gotten me bruned out
[23:13] <tgm4883> newbnewb: the contents of the file that is no longer working
[23:13] <newbnewb> i deleted it from the dock since it didnt work...so I cant do that
[23:13] <daved_> Hi--I have LVM questions about how to re-size the filesystem folders. Anybody able to help?
[23:14] <newbnewb> it was an icon that looked like a file cabinet...just like Nautlus....and instead of nautlius it was named applications and opened to all the apps visible in a window
[23:14] <tgm4883> newbnewb: I'm honestly now sure what you want from us then. If you are just going to moan and complain please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:14] <EriC^^> newbnewb: if you want a dock like mac and easy access icons you could install cairo-dock
[23:14] <Kenb52> How do I automount shares in PCMANFM?
[23:14] <newbnewb> tgm I am not JUST moaning jesus
[23:14] <newbnewb> things dont work...then I get told I am wrong
[23:14] <newbnewb> im doing what I am told....exactly
[23:15] <newbnewb> thanks eric
[23:15] <newbnewb> will try...hopefully it will work
[23:15] <tgm4883> newbnewb: I ask you to post some stuff, you don't have anything to post. You can't tell me what you are trying to do now, it's time to go home, so I'm out
[23:16] <newbnewb> I told you and you are more interested in telling me what I am doing wrong in your eyes like most here
[23:16] <newbnewb> EricC is the only one helping
[23:16] <bazhang> newbnewb, stop that
[23:17] <newbnewb> he has been more than patient....others just want to tell me why I am wrong
[23:17] <bazhang> newbnewb, many are helping you here
[23:17] <newbnewb> who?
[23:17] <Kenb52> I find the google searched stuff is usually wrong. I guess that Gigolo is the only really simple workaround to get this done.
[23:17] <newbnewb> EricC is only one who fixed anything and it took all day....
[23:17] <bazhang> newbnewb, but you are not giving us the info we need
[23:17] <newbnewb> i give what I can and what I know
[23:17] <newbnewb> i explain my limits and people still wont accept
[23:18] <EriC^^> newbnewb: i got it working here
[23:18] <newbnewb> EricC cairo?
[23:18] <EriC^^> no the applications icon in the launcher
[23:18] <newbnewb> oh
[23:18] <newbnewb> i dont know what changed
[23:18] <newbnewb> it worked for me too
[23:18] <EriC^^> i had to add it twice though
[23:18] <newbnewb> then second opening of it suddenly it acted like nautilus icon
[23:19] <EriC^^> yeah
[23:19] <EriC^^> mine turned both into applications icons
[23:19] <newbnewb> if I use cairo can I just drag and drop those folders?
[23:19] <EriC^^> so i unlocked them from the launcher and readded and they worked
[23:19] <newbnewb> rather than all this CLI stuff?
[23:19] <EriC^^> newbnewb: i've only used cairo shortly then uninstalled
[23:19] <EriC^^> but i remember it had alot of customization stuff
[23:19] <newbnewb> its chinese to me what we did to get it on the dock...I couldnt repeat it alone
[23:19] <newbnewb> ok
[23:20] <newbnewb> if it works how can I shut off the unity launcher dock so I dont have two docks
[23:20] <EriC^^> newbnewb: you could try to add it back and see if it works
[23:20] <EriC^^> if you're keen on using the launcher
[23:20] <EriC^^> or you could give cairo a shot
[23:21] <newbnewb> EricC I could never manage again....without step by step instructions
[23:21] <newbnewb> and I am sure yuou are as sick of this as me
[23:21] <Kenb52> Anyone know of a better desktop icon organizer?
[23:21] <EriC^^> newbnewb: just type nautilus /usr/share/applications and drag it to the launcher
[23:22] <newbnewb> there is nothing to drag
[23:22] <newbnewb> it just opens a nautlius window with all the apps showing....
[23:22] <newbnewb> no icon for just apps is created
[23:22] <EriC^^> anyways it seems like a bad idea
[23:23] <EriC^^> i'm noticing the icon flashes red and stalls if you have both open etc.
[23:23] <EriC^^> cairo would be better i guess, try it out
[23:23] <newbnewb> if i just drag the apps icon from within the folder with all apps showing it just creates another nautilus file cabinet
[23:24] <newbnewb> ok so if I use cairo how do I shut off the unity launcher so I dont have two docks
[23:24] <EriC^^> if you hover over it does it say applications or files?
[23:25] <newbnewb> applicaitons...and now my normal nautilus file is gone
[23:26] <newbnewb> all I have is the one saying applications but that opens to what nautilus opened to...the home folder
[23:26] <newbnewb> wtf
[23:26] <newbnewb> I put the new applications icon in the dock like you said...and nautilus disappeared
[23:27] <EriC^^> newbnewb: i think you have to unlock both and add them
[23:27] <EriC^^> but anyways i dont like it
[23:27] <EriC^^> nautilus hangs for a bit before opening
[23:27] <EriC^^> use cairo-dock instead
[23:27] <newbnewb> I dont know how
[23:27] <newbnewb> nautilus is gone now
[23:27] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install cairo-dock
[23:27] <limpc> i have a very annoying problem.  im trying to install ubuntu 14.04.2 on a machine.  but it keeps failing when trying to install grub, with  "the 'grub-efi-amd64-signed' package failed to install to /target/."
[23:27] <EriC^^> newbnewb: open the dash and type files and drag it there
[23:28] <EriC^^> then type sudo rm /usr/share/applications/allapps.desktop
[23:28] <newbnewb> there are two iterations of it along with the applications file in the search results
[23:28] <EriC^^> add the one that says files alone
[23:29] <newbnewb> two of them say files...does it matter which?
[23:29] <EriC^^> newbnewb: try clicking on one and see if it works right
[23:29] <EriC^^> i have a files and files-gksu
[23:30] <newbnewb> they both work
[23:30] <newbnewb> they are identical
[23:30] <newbnewb> somehow I created two
[23:30] <EriC^^> maybe you used the mymusic.desktop before?
[23:30] <newbnewb> i dont know..im so confused now
[23:30] <EriC^^> type ls -l /usr/share/applications | grep music
[23:30] <newbnewb> how do I delete the second one?
[23:30] <newbnewb> i dont even know where it is as I dont udnerstand the file structure
[23:31] <bazhang> !fhs
[23:31] <bazhang> newbnewb, ^
[23:32] <newbnewb> EricC how do I delete the second Files?
[23:32] <newbnewb> so I dont have two when I search
[23:32] <EriC^^> newbnewb: did you type ls -l /usr/share...?
[23:32] <newbnewb> when?
[23:32] <newbnewb> should I do that now?
[23:32] <EriC^^> type ls -l /usr/share/applications | grep music
[23:32] <EriC^^> yeah
[23:33] <newbnewb> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root   688 Apr 13 17:22 mymusic.desktop toshiba@toshibalaptop:/usr/share/applications$
[23:33] <eric__> i dont speak english
[23:33] <eric__> portuguese...
[23:33] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo rm /usr/share/applications/mymusic.desktop
[23:33] <limpc> no suggestions anyone?
[23:33] <EriC^^> newbnewb: ^
[23:34] <twiler> Is EriC still here?
[23:34] <newbnewb> nothing happened
[23:34] <twiler> I told him I'd be back on in 20 minutes over an hour ago :(
[23:35] <twiler> Something came up...
[23:35] <EriC^^> newbnewb: ok
[23:35] <EriC^^> hey twiler ..
[23:36] <newbnewb> i just want to get it back to as it was now....how do I do that?
[23:36] <EriC^^> newbnewb: it shouldn't be there anymore
[23:36] <newbnewb> to get rid of the second files
[23:36] <newbnewb> it is
[23:36] <newbnewb> of course
[23:37] <newbnewb> ok I am done....im exhausted and have bothered you all day and its still wonky
[23:37] <newbnewb> im sorry
[23:37] <newbnewb> i really appreciate your kindness
[23:37] <newbnewb> i dont have endurance and patience to spend hours and hours just to get something to a baseline to START learning
[23:38] <EriC^^> newbnewb: it was deleted?
[23:38] <newbnewb> EricC thank you for being so kind
[23:38] <newbnewb> no its there
[23:38] <EriC^^> newbnewb: you still have 2 files?
[23:38] <newbnewb> but I am fried so I am going....thanks for all
[23:39] <newbnewb> maybe I will try again anotehr time
[23:39] <newbnewb> you are very patient and kind
[23:39] <limpc> ive been struggling with this problem since last night
[23:39] <limpc> its my main machine, so i cant work, this is pissing me off
[23:39] <EriC^^> limpc: what's the problem?
[23:40] <limpc> im trying to install ubuntu 14.04.2 on a machine.  but it keeps failing when trying to install grub, with  "the 'grub-efi-amd64-signed' package failed to install to /target/."
[23:40] <EriC^^> limpc: anything special about the setup?
[23:41] <limpc> its got an uefi bios. but theres no option to enable/disable secure boot
[23:41] <EriC^^> limpc: dual boot/
[23:41] <EriC^^> ?
[23:41] <limpc> i had ubuntu on this same drive and same machine before.  i dont get why i suddenly cant install.
[23:41] <limpc> no.
[23:41] <EriC^^> are you manually partitioning?
[23:42] <limpc> i let the installer auto partition the first 3 times. tried manual the 3rd
[23:42] <limpc> er 4th
[23:42] <EriC^^> ok did you make an efi partition and set the mountpoint and whatnot
[23:42] <limpc> yes
[23:43] <limpc> 550mb efi /boot rest are ext4
[23:43] <EriC^^> did you checksum the iso?
[23:43] <limpc> the installer runs fine? i can run the check though hd on
[23:43] <EriC^^> ok checksum the iso
[23:47] <limpc> no errors found on check
[23:47] <EriC^^> so the md5 match?
[23:47] <limpc> i ran the disk check in the installer
[23:47] <EriC^^> ok
[23:47] <EriC^^> boot the live usb
[23:47] <limpc> into full desktop (try) or installer?
[23:48] <EriC^^> try
[23:48] <limpc> k. its xubuntu btw in case that matters.
[23:49] <limpc> its up.
[23:49] <EriC^^> ok type sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[23:49] <EriC^^> then sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[23:50] <limpc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10819272/
[23:53] <limpc> EriC^^, see my link?
[23:53] <EriC^^> limpc: type gdisk -l /dev/sda | pastebinit
[23:53] <daved_> I need to re-size some system folders in an LVM disk, and I do't know how
[23:54] <limpc> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10819285/
[23:54] <jmg> i just /part
[23:55] <EriC^^> limpc: type sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt
[23:57] <limpc> EriC^^, done. are you wanting me to run grub-install?
[23:58] <EriC^^> limpc: i'm not sure if the installation is complete when grub is installing
[23:59] <EriC^^> type pastebinit /mnt/etc/fstab