[03:42] anyone here? [04:05] scottbomb: what do you need? [04:07] I am a xubuntu tester and have been using kubuntu for over a year now so i'd like to contribute here. the kubuntu testers page at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuTesters says i should come here to request notification when testing is required [04:07] ovidiu-florin: happy birthday! I want to share a glass of that Hobgoblin with ya [04:21] welcome, scottbomb [04:22] unfortunately I think those who can add you to that list (testers) are just waking [04:23] if you can stick around or write to kubuntu-devel you'll be added [04:23] testers are always needed [05:46] valorie: will you come to Akademy? [05:51] yes [05:51] you? [05:51] it will be difficult, but I am determined to come at A Coruna [05:51] with Scarlett [05:52] my husband flies out in less than 30 hours and will be hiking for a half-year [05:53] Akademy is right in the middle of that [06:09] Good morning. [06:21] good morning [06:24] o/ [07:23] Riddell: build broken http://kci.pangea.pub/job/vivid_unstable_kpeople/ [07:38] mhhh [07:38] konsole master has soversion 3, apps/15.04 has soversion 15 [07:42] there's something spooky going on between Dolphin and Kate in vivid [07:43] ios it possible to catch somewhere on irc Alberto Milone ? [07:47] ovidiu-florin: again, happy birthday [07:47] valorie: thank you [07:47] what is the spooky Dolphin<>Kate? [07:48] ovidiu-florin: I want to share a Hobgoblin with you [07:48] :-) [07:48] looks delicious! [07:48] it is [07:48] when opening files from dolphin [07:48] they both freeze sometimes [07:48] hmmm [07:49] and untill I close Kate, dolphin is unusable [07:49] has not happened to me, and I do that rather often [07:50] just now, opened a konvi logfile, instantly [07:50] from dolphin [07:50] open many files, one after another [07:50] do you think that might be a memory problem? [07:51] maxing out your RAM or so [07:51] I did this: Open Kate, open file in kate from kate open menu, open dolphin, open file in kate from dolphin, dolphin frozen [07:51] close file from kate (the one oppened form dolphin) [07:51] get error in dolphin: "KDEInit nu a putut executa „/usr/bin/kate”" [07:51] click ok [07:51] Dolphin is now usable [07:52] translation: KDEInit could not execute „/usr/bin/kate” [07:52] hmmm, both still usable.... [07:52] it hapens on 2 computers [07:52] my laptop and my work computer [07:52] if relevant, I'm using btrfs [07:53] aha, I did get kate to crash [07:53] but nothing froze [07:55] If I start dolphin from Konsole, I get no output when frozen [07:57] have you filed bko bugs? [07:58] I haven't filed any bugs for this yet [07:59] what is http://packages.ubuntu.com/vivid/kdelibs5-dev ? [07:59] the name seems to point to something that doesn't exist, there's ni KDE 5 [07:59] no* [08:00] ovidiu-florin: check https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343613 & https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=339094 [08:00] KDE bug 343613 in general "Dolphin hangs when opening a file with Kate while Kate is already open" [Major,Resolved: duplicate] [08:00] KDE bug 339094 in general "Dolphin hangs up when opening a file in Kate from it. Only happen when using a already open kate session." [Normal,Resolved: fixed] [08:02] ovidiu-florin: that looks like kdelibs for unported applications [08:02] we have to have those until all apps are ported to KF5 [08:02] so this bug appears to be fixed [08:08] but we still have it in Vivid [08:08] CMake Error at /usr/share/kde4/apps/cmake/modules/FindQt4.cmake:886 (MESSAGE): [08:08] Could NOT find QtCore. [08:08] I guess installing libqt4-core would fix it [08:09] no [08:13] hola chicos [08:13] hola Riddell como estas? [08:13] Sput: solid freeze is about to happen on thursday, any final quassel due? [08:14] Riddell: can we get this fix in? http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kate.git&a=commit&h=5207e49a84145e21060f3b5beff302a437cfeccd [08:14] ovidiu-florin: es el dia de plasma cinco punt tres beta, es muy excitable! [08:15] oh, I see now that, that fix wasn't released yet [08:15] horrible [08:19] freezes are sometimes inconvenient [08:20] want some cool frezes ? :) try using nvidai propriety driver with nvidia-prime [08:21] heh [08:21] if you will be lucky to get throiugh black screen or plymouth freeze, you will get freeze in sddm or just after login [08:22] there is more cool stuff, we cant use different tty because whole command line is spammend y some error all the time [08:50] Riddell: can do a release today or tomorrow [08:51] Riddell: https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/CI#Prevent_Merge.2FBuild_Fail [08:53] if I do a debcommit -a -r -R it gives a tag like debian/5.9.0-0ubuntu2 which then can't be pushed "remote: [ REJECTED ] refs/tags/debian/5.9.0-0ubuntu2: referenced object under refs/tags/ must be an annotated tag" [08:53] now what does that mean [08:53] sitter: ack [08:53] Sput: pronto pronto! :) [08:56] Riddell: that the pkg-kde server hooks are incompatible with debcommit [08:56] they're fine with us putting the tags in the debian/ namespace? [08:57] I wouldn't expect they are [08:57] I put a working tagging command in kubuntu-archive-upload which is commented out as I never actually tested it [09:05] mparillo: how did you get on with virualbox last night? [09:06] yofel: I do wonder though if it matters since the versions do not conflict anyway what with ubuntu revisions [09:08] hm [09:09] sitter: they /might/ conflict [09:09] how so? [09:09] obviously not in kubuntu packages cos we're awesome but some ubuntu packages have conflicted [09:09] how does one see whether a tag is annotated? [09:09] well... ubuntu :P [09:10] yofel: git show $tag supposedly [09:10] or in gitk you can click on the tag [09:10] hm, "okular Debian release 4:14.12.3-0ubuntu1", not quite there yet.. [09:10] kf5.9 upload seems to be going ok but I'm confused/worried by the regressions here http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - 10 years of friendlyness | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | Crash tracker : http://goo.gl/Cdynad | 20 bugs to fix http://goo.gl/Chh7uh [09:13] http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/~jr/patch-parser/kubuntu_vivid_archive.html [09:13] such a wall of patch [09:14] something like this should work: git-buildpackage --git-ignore-branch --git-tag-only --git-debian-tag='ubuntu/%(version)s' --git-debian-tag-msg='%(pkg)s Ubuntu release %(version)s' [09:14] sitter: you didn't move it out of ~jr ? [09:15] Riddell: no [09:23] Riddell: workspace stable says 09:21:11 dpkg-source: error: cannot read source/debian/patches/kubuntu_default-systray-applets.diff: No such file or directory === ubuntu is now known as Guest45625 === Guest45625 is now known as llucas [09:46] Riddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cdimage/+bug/1441843 does not seem to apply to Kubuntu (at least on VMware Player 6.0.5 build-2443746) I just used today's ISO. [09:46] Launchpad bug 1441843 in Ubuntu CD Images "X server fails to start on post-final Beta Lubuntu Vivid desktop images in virtual machines" [High,Confirmed] [09:47] mparillo: so it all ran fine? [09:48] I ran both the live mode and installer. That said, when I got the message to re-boot there were a bunch of squashfs errors, but I powered down the VM, and it came back up. The first time it came back up I had some strange messages in konsole, but I applied updates and re-booted again and everything seems fine. [09:48] But certainly nothing critical the way Lubuntu has. [09:48] phew :) [09:48] thanks mparillo [09:49] the squashfs issue on shutdown from live I've seen and is inelegant but it's kindae below what I know about [09:49] Since I had kate and dolphin open, I wonder if it is related to the discussion earlier today on #kubuntu-devel [09:49] it = the strange messages in my konsole === inetpro_ is now known as inetpro [10:31] there's no Open Konsole here in the dolphin context menu anymore, why? [10:40] maybe it's a kdelibs4->kf5 integration issue [10:41] konsole is ported, dolphin is ported [10:41] what's there in beteeen?\ [10:43] dolphin isn't ported in the version we ship [10:50] There is new 15.04 revie on g+ [10:50] *review [10:50] https://plus.google.com/+AJReissig/posts/Q6qXEYuLqGP [10:54] gosh 20 mins [10:54] yeah people these days prefere less talk more nice video :) [10:55] such reviews shoudl have ~ 5 minutes showing the software [10:55] mparillo: good for promo on wire/social media? [11:14] HI all [11:15] hiho BluesKaj [11:15] hey soee [11:25] we should have packaging video tutorial like 10 lessons [11:26] so step by step all explained [11:26] than it would be much esier to potential packagers to start with it [11:32] frecel: we need to get this digikam release tested and in a PPA [11:34] Riddell: downloading it right now [11:35] Sorry about sunday, just as we started talking my phone went crazy and I needed to go do some damage control [11:36] :=) [11:36] and now I'm back to working 13hour days for a week or so === DalekSec_ is now known as DalekSec [11:38] I'm actually about to head off to work in about 10 minutes [11:38] its 5:37 here, it should be illegal to be awake this early [11:42] Riddell: works like a dream [11:43] frecel: great, I'll copy it over [11:45] frecel: up now in kubuntu-ppa/backports thanks for your help https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=vivid [12:54] Riddell: On it (https://plus.google.com/+AJReissig/posts/Q6qXEYuLqGP) Thanks soee. [13:04] not my cuppa tea [13:06] ~.~ [13:36] I use Passwordsafe which is built on wxWidgets and the theming does not seem to mesh well with any of the three themes on Plasma 5 (for example, a checkbox is almost invisible). Where is a good place to ask about that kind of thing? [13:37] ask passwordsafe whyever they use wxwidgets and not qt like a sensible project :) [13:40] I know the reply..."It's open-source...have a go" [13:43] IIRC wx just used the gtk themes, and I don't think there's a gtk3 theme that fits good into plasma5 [13:48] we do set orion [13:48] should be set in ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini [13:51] Yes, I see that: gtk-theme-name=Orion [13:51] yeah, that is at least tolerable, but not good [13:52] the toolbars looks similar, is why I picked it [13:52] right, I don't think we have something better either :/ [13:53] a breeze theme for gtks2 and 3 was promised, dunno how that's going [14:06] * genii makes more coffee [14:40] wake up to plasmashell dead [14:40] well I still have graphic effects, just no desktop or taskbar [14:40] or wallpaper [14:40] whats the cmd to restart the shell? [14:48] guess I'll install all these updates and see if it fixes or brings any stability [14:48] looks like there is some breeze,plasma, and sddm stuff inthere [14:49] * darthanubis crosses fingers [14:50] lets see if I can log out [14:55] Riddell: do you remember why we depend on a specific mysql version for akonadi? We don't even ship multiple ones in the archive.. [14:56] yofel: nope, is it some ubuntu policy to not accidently compile against another one like boost maybe? [14:57] this is the runtime dep, the build one is already "just" libmysqlclient-dev. [14:59] meh, I'll write a mail to the ML, this packaging doesn't match reality at all [15:05] sweet, can logout now! [15:08] still getting this message about mscorefonts installer, and I know the package installed successfully [15:14] so is apt-get no longer needed ? replaced by just apt ? [15:35] BluesKaj: It's not replaced. Both are still there. Use whichever you prefer. [15:36] yofel: If the MySQL dependency is generated from shlibs, then that's normal library versioning at work. It should just need a no change rebuild for the new ABI. [15:37] ScottK, kind of like apt without the "get" even tho i use short alaises for those commands I like the ideaof a progressbar when upgrading and installing [15:37] My fingers are sufficiently trained I've never managed to use it. [15:38] ScottK: it's not, it's manually hardcoded, as in: [15:38] Depends: mysql-client-core-5.5 | mysql-client-core-5.6 | mariadb-client-core-5.5 | mariadb-client-core-10.0 [15:38] see the mail I just sent [15:39] OK. [15:39] No idea then. [16:03] I still seem to need apt-get autoremove -y Seems to choke on simply apt, but otherwise I save four characters and get a nifty progress bar. [16:12] you could also set APT::Get::AutomaticRemove "1" in apt.conf - then you can skip that [16:13] hmm kubotu all silent on trello changes :( [16:14] frecel: how would you like a useful task? [16:14] frecel: kamoso needs testing and packaged https://trello.com/c/1nORCQl8/49-test-package-kamoso [16:14] [15.04 :: To Do :: test/package kamoso ++ ] [16:15] that would be sweet, even if it needs an FFE [16:18] yofel: not going to happen in vivid :) [16:18] and actually looking at it it'll get complex [16:18] oh well [16:18] needs qt 5 gstreamer packaged [16:18] geh [16:18] and kf5 kpurpose [16:19] yeah, not vivid then [16:19] frecel: so maybe not an easy task then ↑ [16:19] and kamoso isn't released, it's just that apol asked me for testers and maybe some CI packaging [16:22] ok I'm off, Adéu [18:47] * ahoneybun is on the Ubuntu Membership Board [18:55] ahoneybun: congrats :) [18:55] yofel: thanks :) [18:57] how are you doing ovidiu-florin [18:57] ? [18:59] ahoneybun: Congratulations. But what does it mean that you are on the Membership Board? Do you get to evaluate membership applications? [18:59] ahoneybun: Congratulations. But what does it mean that you are on the Membership Board? Do you get to evaluate membership applications? [18:59] Whoops. [19:00] whoopsie [19:00] the s/ first/ second thing did not work in #kubuntu :P [19:00] lordievader: yes [19:00] or is it tied to individual members? [19:01] ahoneybun: Fancy :) [19:01] lordievader: yea lol [19:01] :) [19:01] I'm hearing you! :P [19:01] lol [19:01] (I'm busy with getting some development time ready for Calligra :) ) [19:02] minus the space at the end [19:02] (have my first builds ready of the stock software...) [19:33] xennex81: the s/ thing is a kubotu thing. kubuntu is not in #kubuntu [19:33] s/kubuntu/kubotu/ [19:33] yofel meant: "xennex81: the s/ thing is a kubotu thing. kubotu is not in #kubuntu" [19:33] -.- [19:36] someone tested lately nvidia-prime with propriety drivers ? [19:54] :) [19:54] hahahahahahaha [19:55] i like kobuto [19:55] but I am not sure if I spell it right haha [19:55] s/kobuto/kubotu/ [19:55] xennex81: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed" [19:55] only works on the previous line [19:55] it doesn't want me to be late [19:55] :P :( [19:55] i see [19:56] it doesn't want me to use it on the previous line yes [19:56] hrm.. [19:56] .. [19:56] ................. [19:56] s/...../blaat/ [19:56] xennex81 meant: "blaat............" [19:56] :) [19:56] haha i like scripts :) ..... i wish i had more :P [20:00] KF 5.9! [20:01] ahoneybun: you get yourself as a member of the membership board? [20:01] Riddell: yes [20:01] gosh, how exciting :) [20:01] I know :) [20:02] sgclark: hiho [20:02] darn crazy [20:02] congratulations then :), even if I don't know what it is ? : ) :P [20:02] soee: I don't dare install the drivers [20:02] everything in life should be revertible [20:03] if it is not okay [20:03] xennex81: not sure about those drivers [20:03] *should be* [20:03] just undo everything rm -rf / [20:03] right lol [20:03] i mean undo that also [20:03] it should be possible lol [20:03] everything that is not okay :p [20:04] :P [20:04] If I had saved a list of the packages and removed the blacklist of the drivers it should work [20:04] I currently have a KDE that cannot select a different Window Decoration theme because the current one makes it crash [20:04] just easier to reinstall [20:04] g2g brb [20:04] bye [20:05] there are many themes for that (perhaps) that makes the tool crash [20:05] segfault, whenever you load it [20:05] ahoneybun: well i have them installed but cant use :) [20:05] im on intel profile atm [20:06] i'm not sure how to clear that setting, it is in the .kde I think [20:06] nvidia driver makes plymouth freeze [20:09] blah that's bad [20:09] ~.~ [20:09] found, kwinrc [20:09] that is an essential component [20:10] you can't have it freeze like that :P [20:11] nah you can get used to, when working on a dev version [20:17] xennex81: I'm trying to recover from a headake [20:17] that still won't let me go [20:17] I can't do anything [20:18] I don't know what's happening [20:21] ovidiu-florin: Too much birthday alcohol? [20:21] I suspected at first [20:21] but actually I didn't drink that much [20:21] I didn't even get drunk [20:22] Riddell: ping [20:22] Hmm, too bad :( [20:23] who thinks im the boss ? [20:24] ahoneybun: win http://wstaw.org/m/2015/04/14/snapshot5.png [20:25] wfter logout i had only black screen but hard reset and it somehow started [20:25] with EGL panel is whole white - no effects, but with GLX it seems to work [20:26] brb one more reboot to check if it will work [20:27] back [20:28] someone can confirm that with latest updates, rightclick on desktop not working ? [20:29] soee: I can, also desktop search is completely broken [20:29] oO [20:30] well i can search for applications in krunner [20:30] *cant [20:30] so indeed it is broken [20:31] ovidiu-florin: I think it is a cause for more water drinking in any case ;-) ! [20:31] but nice to see you're back [20:32] not doing anything or not being able to do anything Is Something I Am Used To :P. [20:34] I am wondering if you 're still or still would be interested.... if You'd Still Be Interested in having a look at what i had been writing about the ...*gasp*... argh... website... ? [20:35] if I am to or were to make it as image-rich As I Could ? [20:35] s/if I am to or were to/If I am to make it or were to/ [20:35] xennex81 meant: "If I am to make it or were to make it as image-rich As I Could ?" [20:36] lol [20:36] I just need a better mouse for image manipulation lol [20:40] hi ovidiu-florin [20:40] I've skimmed over your mail [20:40] I'll read it again though [20:40] * ahoneybun high fives soee [20:41] Riddell: I'd like to finish the Team page and the publish it [20:41] and do the rest after [20:41] any reason not to? [20:41] soee ahoneybun anyone else ^^ [20:42] ovidiu-florin: sounds good [20:43] there is this bug in menu on small screens i reported on github [20:43] which menu? [20:43] main navigation? [20:44] aha [20:44] soee: do you have a fix for it, or do I have to investigate? [20:44] ovidiu-florin: its simple, i explained it in bugreport i think [20:46] sup ovidiu-florin [20:46] oh Team page [20:47] and we need to make better banner on frontpage [20:47] soee: go to ahoneybun for that [20:48] soee: I can't find through inspect element the css selector for .skt-mob-menu [20:48] ovidiu-florin: ill make a sample tomorrow to show you how i would see [20:48] it [20:49] * ahoneybun hates the Ubuntu Wiki [20:49] ovidiu-florin: resize page to smaller size [20:49] what do you have in mind soee [20:50] ahoneybun: ? [20:50] banner soee [20:50] separate background image and text etc [20:51] soee: check it out now (navigation) [20:51] have a slight trans background for the text and images? [20:53] ovidiu-florin: yes its fine now, but the menu button and logo arent verticaly centered in this to panel hight [20:53] woudl be got to fix it [20:54] can you make a pull request for that? [20:54] ovidiu-florin: tomorrow [20:54] ok [21:06] Riddell: ping [21:06] users report the same 2 issues we did: https://plus.google.com/103063697074786093032/posts/PJhPtdxMfDX [21:08] mm meh, I'll test it out tomorrow [21:08] W: Failed to fetch http://ro.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/vivid/universe/i18n/Translation-en Hash Sum mismatch [21:08] E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. [21:16] kernel upgrade [21:25] ovidiu-florin: wait a bit and try again [22:15] I have the same issues soee reports [22:15] where should this be reported? [22:16] ie: no right-click on teh desktop, krunner doesn't search [22:16] in fact, it doesn't add 2+3 [22:33] I guess I'll file it on krunner on bko [22:35] valorie: one on krunner and one of plasma-framework [22:35] bugs.k.o and launchpad [22:35] if you can [22:38] hmmm [22:38] apt-cache policy krunner yields nothing [22:38] what do we call it? [22:41] I mean, our packagename [22:41] krunner source package [22:41] eeek, lost without my krunner [22:42] omg, search isn't working in kicker either [22:42] frameworks-krunner in bugs.kde.org [22:42] ok [22:43] apt-cache policy tells me I have neither [22:44] apt install can't find it [22:44] libkf5runner5 is the library [22:44] something wicked this way comes [22:44] which is what has changed [22:45] that I do have [22:46] do you happen to know our version of krunner since apt-cache is being so stupid? [22:47] http://paste.ubuntu.com/10824300/ [22:47] none of those sound right [22:48] and search for frameworks-krunner finds null [22:53] valorie: 5.2.95 [22:53] ty [22:53] valorie: https://bugs.kde.org/describecomponents.cgi?product=frameworks-plasma [22:54] valorie: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-framework [22:54] valorie: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/krunner [22:55] excellent [22:55] plasma components? [22:56] I assume [22:56] hmm here is no frameworks-krunner [22:57] Riddell: how's it going [22:57] shadeslayer: can I put a load of anarchist vegans in the office this weekend? [22:57] they'll be well behaved [23:00] but will they wear kilts? [23:00] hah [23:01] Riddell: what's with the anarchist vegans [23:01] valorie: unlikely, they're from england [23:01] Riddell: do they use KDE? [23:02] too bad, vegans should all wear kilts [23:02] heck, guys in Seattle wear them [23:03] shadeslayer: they will if they want a bed for the night [23:03] even if they are utilikilts [23:03] lol [23:04] * valorie spreads the rumour that Riddell beds vegans to get them to use KDE [23:04] so naughty [23:05]