| jchodyniecki | anyone available for a silly question? | 01:37 |
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| jchodyniecki | maybe mahmoh or kirkland? or anyone | 01:38 |
| jchodyniecki | guess I'm 0 for 91 here | 01:44 |
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| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Equal Pay Day! :-D | 08:46 |
| zbenjamin | does anyone know where mvo is these days? | 11:12 |
| ogra_ | zbenjamin, at a sprint i think ... | 11:20 |
| ogra_ | US timezone | 11:20 |
| zbenjamin | ogra_: aaa ok, makes sense | 11:22 |
| zbenjamin | ogra_: right there is a sprint in austin afaik | 11:23 |
| zbenjamin | ogra_: what would be the right way to hack around on snappy in a VM? | 11:30 |
| zbenjamin | ogra_: do we have any images | 11:30 |
| ogra_ | i never used it in a VM :) | 11:30 |
| zbenjamin | ogra_: heh, how do you use it ? :) | 11:31 |
| ogra_ | but i think there are instructions for runnin it in KVM on the website somewhere | 11:31 |
| ogra_ | on arm boards | 11:31 |
| ogra_ | once you have it running you should be able to ssh into it or open the webdm UI in a browser ... | 11:31 |
| ogra_ | http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/tools/snappy | 11:32 |
| ogra_ | that has a KVM section | 11:32 |
| zbenjamin | ogra_: aa nice thank you | 11:33 |
| sergiusens | cprov: http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/snappy/odroidc/ | 13:13 |
| ogra_ | sergiusens, that *might* need a re-spin for the latest release ... havent done one since the last milestone ... | 13:14 |
| sergiusens | no worries | 13:16 |
| cprov | sergiusens: thanks | 13:17 |
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| ezobn | Hi All, Can the "repository"/store for the snappy packages be installed localy ? | 14:40 |
| ogra_ | no | 14:41 |
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| ezobn | ogra_: Is it available in commercial terms ? Or some other ideas here ? | 14:48 |
| ogra_ | ezobn, ah, i dont know ... beuno might though | 14:52 |
| beuno | ezobn, hi | 14:52 |
| beuno | what do you mean? as in, run your own version of the store? | 14:52 |
| ezobn | beuno, yes. To have scenario like vCPE for the telcom and application delivery using localised store. | 14:54 |
| beuno | ezobn, you can't run it locally, we do offer a sub-store for products | 14:56 |
| beuno | still hosted by us, but you have control over what goes into it | 14:56 |
| beuno | in some cases, we will offer a local proxy, so clients don't need to talk outside of the network to get updates | 14:56 |
| mvo | jdstrand: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/vivid/ubuntu-core-system-image | 14:57 |
| jdstrand | thanks | 14:58 |
| ezobn | beuno, good to know, the idea for the local proxy is to deliver updates to not get it all from outside network, decrease amount of possible traffic or so ? | 14:59 |
| beuno | ezobn, yeah, different people want to lock down networks for different reasons | 15:01 |
| beuno | for some it's security, some bandwidth | 15:01 |
| ezobn | beuno, thanks, got the point. | 15:02 |
| sergiusens | zbenjamin: ah yes you are | 15:09 |
| sergiusens | mvo: raise your ears just in case :-) (or eyes) | 15:10 |
| sergiusens | zbenjamin: I'd rather have mvo be the main stakeholder here ;-) | 15:10 |
| sergiusens | zbenjamin: we don't have a concept of hand holding builds with snappy | 15:11 |
| sergiusens | like click chroots didd | 15:11 |
| zbenjamin | sergiusens: hm yeah i just had the idea that it would be nice and more lightweight to create a buildenv with the snappy tools | 15:11 |
| zbenjamin | sergiusens: since we already have package versioning and so on | 15:11 |
| sergiusens | zbenjamin: right, we have no versioning in snappy either | 15:12 |
| zbenjamin | sergiusens: you can do rollbacks no? | 15:12 |
| sergiusens | zbenjamin: yes | 15:12 |
| sergiusens | zbenjamin: but there is no dependency chain that ties you to the versioning | 15:13 |
| zbenjamin | sergiusens: thats what i meant, so lets say you want to build a specific snap, you need a rootfs with the dependencies. The rootfs builder could read your dependencies and install them into a core rootfs | 15:13 |
| sergiusens | zbenjamin: as in, in the click world you could depend on ubuntu-sdk-13.10 | 15:13 |
| zbenjamin | sergiusens: yes, but i can depend on frameworks in the snappy world | 15:14 |
| zbenjamin | or did i get that wrong | 15:14 |
| sergiusens | zbenjamin: yes, you can | 15:14 |
| sergiusens | zbenjamin: for native builds you might want to look at what lool did | 15:14 |
| zbenjamin | sergiusens: if it uses schroot then thats exactly what we would like to prevent... | 15:15 |
| sergiusens | zbenjamin: just take into account, snappy rootfs don't have apt (and won't have dpkg) | 15:15 |
| zbenjamin | sergiusens: schroot has proven to be slow and unstable in the SDK. | 15:15 |
| zbenjamin | bzoltan: ^^^ jus t case you want to read as well | 15:15 |
| zbenjamin | sergiusens: so for example schroot leaks mounts. For any reason a click chroot .. run is killed or terminated it will leave mounts behind. Those mounts are restored on boot.... We had people with 16k mounts | 15:16 |
| zbenjamin | sergiusens: also the mount/umount on every command is horribly slow | 15:16 |
| sergiusens | zbenjamin: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/snappy-devel/2015-March/000415.html | 15:16 |
| zbenjamin | sergiusens: ah teh devpacks yeah | 15:17 |
| zbenjamin | sergiusens: ok i thought the devpacks would be installed by snappy as well | 15:18 |
| zbenjamin | sergiusens: the idea was that i can construct the rootfs from outside. and then use it as chroot/sysroot/whatever | 15:19 |
| zbenjamin | sergiusens: but reverting it to a clean state is the problem here | 15:20 |
| elopio | ping ogra_, if I install your chatroom snap in kvm, what is the url? | 15:21 |
| sergiusens | zbenjamin: that's snapcraft; but I suggest to reply with that in the rfc email which needs some interaction love | 15:22 |
| sergiusens | elopio: don't forget to -redir if using kvm | 15:22 |
| sergiusens | elopio: and you can check by looking at the ports entry in package yaml maybe | 15:22 |
| ogra_ | elopio, $ip:6565/ | 15:22 |
| ogra_ | elopio, for kvm you need to forward that port somehow | 15:23 |
| ogra_ | then i think localhost:6565 might work | 15:23 |
| elopio | sergiusens: where should I use -redir ? | 15:23 |
| ogra_ | you likely use it already in your kvm commandline | 15:23 |
| ogra_ | just add another redirect for the 6565 port | 15:24 |
| elopio | got it. | 15:24 |
| ogra_ | elopio, and thanks for the blog comment !! | 15:24 |
| elopio | ogra_: this is really cool actually. Thanks to you for the magic tool. | 15:24 |
| ogra_ | :D | 15:26 |
| zbenjamin | sergiusens: sadly i can not answer to that mail. I just registered for the snappy-devel ML | 15:41 |
| elopio | where do I report a bug for snappy-remote? | 15:44 |
| lool | ogra_: would you know where the pins for the serial console are on the ninja sphere develoepr kit? | 17:05 |
| lool | ogra_: nevermind, found it | 17:08 |
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| fishcooker | is anyone here with "Screen version 4.00.03 + CentOS release 6.6 " that support vsplit release? | 22:08 |
| fishcooker | err sorry wrong channel | 22:08 |
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