[05:03] good morning! [06:03] good morning [06:06] hey didrocks & desktopers [06:06] re seb128 [06:55] morning [06:57] good morning willcooke [06:58] hi willcooke! [07:15] willcooke, hey [07:42] hey seb128 didrocks [07:42] user-setup package is forked in ubuntu? [07:46] darkxst: hey, what do you mean by forked? version is 1.48ubuntu3, so yeah, not in sync with debian [07:46] (only used in xubuntu apparently) [07:47] didrocks, it is setting gdm Auto login [07:47] and TimedLogin which we don't want [07:47] but that code seems non-existant in debian [07:47] hey [07:47] bug 1412791 [07:47] bug 1412791 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "automatic login configured in ubiquity cannot be disabled by gnome-control-center" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1412791 [07:48] - Add preseedable passwd/auto-login question; if set to true, configure [07:48] gdm, kdm, lxdm, and lightdm for automatic login. Add [07:48] passwd/auto-login-backup question which backs up the previous contents [07:48] of the files as well. [07:48] darkxst: ^ [07:48] didrocks lp:~darkxst/user-setup/noTimedLogin [07:50] darkxst: sounds better for the foundation team to have a look, they did all changes to it and own ubiquity [07:50] so I guess they would have a better knowledge of the impacts [07:50] also, referencing the bug in the changelog + MP would help them [07:52] (even if it seems you are the only one impacted as the change is in a gdm section, better to double check with them for unseen impacts) [07:54] didrocks, this is why I am condfused, that code does not exist in the debian package there is nothing setting AutoLogin there [07:55] darkxst: it's been a long time I didn't use DI, but I'm not even sure they have an option for setting autologin during install [07:55] and debian changelog doesnt have any notable changes apart from a few fixes and translations [07:56] (since 1.48) [07:56] my bet is that this change is only for ubiquity [07:57] but I may be wrong [07:57] (maybe maas as well?) [07:58] didrocks, but then why is ubuntu patching upstream code if its not a fork? [07:58] I suppose I should ask cjwatson [07:58] right [08:06] hullo [08:06] bloody suspend failures [08:06] hey Laney [08:06] resume* [08:06] morning Laney [08:06] hi darkxst didrocks [08:08] what's upski [08:10] Laney, just silly installer bugs [08:12] supposed to be getting upgraded to fibre today - so might disappear offline for a while at some point. [08:13] hey Laney [08:13] That said, I'm dealing with Open Reach, so it's equally likely that nothing will happen at all [08:18] willcooke: well, when I switched recently, got some surprised (like not plug the day it should have been, and "magically" fixed without any interventions and things like that [08:18] willcooke: btw, before you disappear, meeting reminder email? :) [08:18] didrocks is not forgetting about business :-) [08:19] never *ever* [08:19] :D:D [08:20] didrocks: maybe we should start writing reminder emails for the reminder emails? [08:20] I can remind you about doing that every Tuesday morning if you wish [08:22] inception! [08:23] not deep enough yet [08:23] larsu: TBH, for a while, I was always reminding seb128 about the reminder email [08:23] so we went already there :p [08:23] I might forget reminding you though... seb128, do you mind reminding me? [08:23] (about reminding didrocks to remind willcooke to send the meeting reminder to us all) [08:23] larsu: be careful to not create deadlocks though! [08:23] seb128, I'll write a script to email you a reminder [08:23] didrocks: HAHA [08:24] we need a 7 person chain [08:24] willcooke: wait.......... [08:24] ???? [08:24] "good morning, remember to remind tomorrow" [08:24] * larsu has a feelin we're circular now [08:24] Laney: $PERSON [08:24] yeah, I bet we should change our dependency strategy [08:24] what is this? html? [08:24] %s, person [08:24] and for tests, we need to add mocks [08:24] Laney: that's good as well :) [08:24] so time for dependency injection [08:25] * davmor2 remembers to remind Laney tomorrow no idea of what but I'll remind him damn it [08:26] remind me to finish that last bit of easter egg [08:26] HAHA as if i'll need reminding [08:26] lol [08:35] seb128, guess what... [08:35] I have a meeting with the browser folk at 15030 UTC [08:35] to talk about stuff from the product sprint in LDN the other week [08:36] I can probably manage to run an IRC meeting and do a hangout at the same time though. [08:36] just fyi [08:37] willcooke, I'm happy to lead the meeting [08:38] you can still be around and ask questions and stuff as well [08:38] seb128, let's see how it goes... [08:38] thx [08:38] but at least if you need to focus on your hangout it doesn't create gaps on IRC [08:38] yw [09:36] seb128 / larsu: I see unity-greeter in the upload queue ;-) [09:36] Laney, great! [09:36] thanks for reminding! [09:37] \o/ [09:42] yw! [09:50] hey guys [09:50] so did you resolve that menu-shadow problem in gtk3 in the end? [09:51] ochosi: yep, thanks to Laney :) [09:52] good :) [09:52] so shady [09:52] nice and cool under those menus now [09:53] haha [09:53] yeah, "summer is coming" ;) [10:33] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1443774 sound like a GTK+ bug, ja? [10:33] Ubuntu bug 1443774 in unity (Ubuntu) "Horizontal scrolling is backwards" [Undecided,New] [10:36] bregma: that's probably an issue with gtk's natural scrolling [10:37] and I guess this is the fix? https://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/commit/?id=f34ecab28f94bd36dc8201b4f81c6b290806195e [10:39] hm probably not, we already have that fix [10:54] ah it is that commit, but it breaks it === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === DalekSec_ is now known as DalekSec [11:50] willcooke: sent you my updates just now [11:51] happyaron, hey, how is that ibus issue going? [11:52] thx happyaron [11:53] seb128: seems something wrong in glib, there's many crash in ibus that trace down to glib... [11:54] seb128: atm working on striping python2 from its dependency, and will come back to that crash later [11:55] happyaron, python2 is not a priority for vivid, we should rather focus on the segfaults [11:55] happyaron, are you sure it's not just incorrect glib use in ibus? [11:55] not very sure yet [11:56] well, doko kicked me on that python2 issue earlier, and it's easy to fix, doing testing right now [12:05] k [12:42] why is menus being displayed with Alt Gr how are you meant to get special characters now? [12:45] you press prt-scrn with your right big toe while pressing AltGr with your left index finger ... then you cast the maic spell and it will appear [12:45] *magic [12:47] ogra_: no you don't now I'm going to have to beat you [12:47] did you try ? [12:47] ogra_: yes [12:48] probably you didnt pronounce the spell in the right tune [12:48] ogra_: I'm still closing the gnome-screenshot widows === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [13:28] Good morning! [13:29] hey pitti :) [13:30] slept longer today? [13:30] didrocks: 5:30, was quite okay [13:30] like my normal time at home :) [13:30] heh, in a way, indeed :) [13:31] pitti, hey, happy birthday! [13:31] seb128: merci beaucoup ! [13:34] seb128, didrocks: my parents gave me a tandem parachute jump; apparently 35 is enough :-P [13:35] waow, sounds nice (and scary) [13:35] lol [13:35] do you plan to do it? [13:35] * seb128 is not sure he would [13:36] hey pitti, happy birthday! [13:36] that sounds like fun [13:36] Laney: thanks! I'm sure it will be, after I made it through the door :) [13:37] being strapped to an expert should be quite reassuring :P [13:37] I might need a motivational push to jump out of a perfectly working plane, but I'm looking forward to it -- it's going to be exciting [13:48] pitti: happy birthday! [13:49] larsu: danke! [13:50] * ogra_ hugs pitti [13:50] HAPPY BÖÖÖRSDAI !! [13:51] hey ogra_, danke! [13:51] pitti: happy birthday! :) [13:52] I'm going to have to go 3g until I can fix it [13:52] oops, seb128 ^^ [13:52] willcooke, no worry [13:56] mdeslaur: merci ! [14:03] bah, hidpi is annoying [14:03] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1443767 [14:03] Ubuntu bug 1443767 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "The installation window was not shown completely with vivid-desktop-amd64-20150408 on hidpi laptop" [Undecided,New] [14:03] scaling kicks in on a "2560x1440" monitor [14:03] https://launchpadlibrarian.net/203188946/301.jpg that looks wrong [14:04] seb128, well, does that monitor actually run at that resolution ? [14:04] * ogra_ highly doubts it [14:04] ogra_, seems so [14:04] https://launchpadlibrarian.net/203214891/2560x1440.jpg [14:05] wow [14:14] that sucks [14:18] ogra_: ha figured it out thanks pipe symbol. After the reboot from the update the keyboard was set to us layout even though the only option was en_GB D'oh [14:18] ogra_: now AltGr is working again [14:19] seb128, am I really here? [14:19] that's a deep question [14:19] willcooke, yes [14:19] hard to answer, indeed… :) [14:19] progress [14:19] :) === jhenke_ is now known as jhenke === infinity1 is now known as infinity [15:30] hum, it's meeting time? [15:30] yep! [15:31] attente, desrt, dgadomski, didrocks, FJKong, larsu, qengho, Sweet5hark, hey [15:32] #startmeeting [15:32] Meeting started Tue Apr 14 15:32:05 2015 UTC. The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [15:32] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick [15:32] not forgetting the bot this time! [15:32] * Sweet5hark reporting in [15:32] hey o/ [15:32] hi [15:32] let's get started [15:33] #topic attente === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: attente [15:33] attente, hey [15:33] qengho, can you come to the oxide meeting? [15:33] yes. I thought I was in it! [15:33] qengho, will send you a HI link [15:33] HO [15:33] qengho, oh - I see you :) [15:34] trying to write a service that should allow us to switch between input method frameworks without restarting the session [15:34] gtk already includes some support, but not sure if it'll work under unity8 since we don't have u-s-d there [15:34] for qt4 and qt5, we'll have to write a proxy input method plugin to forward to the active framework [15:34] willcooke: I have two invitations. Wrong one. [15:35] attente, hum, did you talk to anyone about the service? [15:36] it might be a good idea to have other people participating to the conversation so we do something that is futur proof [15:36] seb128: not yet, but i'm pretty sure we're going to need it at some point if we want to be able to switch between maliit and ibus/fcitx [15:37] especially because of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/maliit-framework/+bug/1245925 [15:37] Ubuntu bug 1245925 in maliit-framework (Ubuntu) "Troublesome export in /etc/profile.d/maliit-framework.sh" [Undecided,Triaged] [15:37] attente, right, just saying that we should have the conversaiton in front [15:37] otherwise we risk having a design that doesn't accomodate all needs and to have to throw away and start again [15:37] which would be a waste [15:38] anyway, let's get moving [15:38] attente, thanks [15:39] #topic desrt === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: desrt [15:39] sure [15:39] desrt, hey [15:40] hey [15:40] desrt, weekly summary? [15:40] had a pretty unproductive week -- spent some time at the doctor [15:41] but i managed to get to the bottom of the text/plain fallback class of bugs [15:41] currently rewriting a bit of the code there to avoid some extra memory allocations (and get rid of the remaining leak) [15:41] should be done today [15:41] also continued work on the no-polling-with-inotify-missing-files stuff [15:42] still not feeling 100%, but am quite a bit better, so hopefully next week will be a bit more productive :p [15:42] (end) [15:43] desrt, hope you recover fully soon!: [15:43] desrt, is the mimetype fix something we might be able to backport to vivid/for stable? [15:43] yes [15:44] great [15:44] desrt, thanks [15:44] #topic dgadomski === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: dgadomski [15:44] dgadomski, hey [15:44] hey [15:44] * bug #445333 fixed, the user is super happy! Thanks! Side note - the bug has been out there since 2009 :) [15:44] bug 445333 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu Trusty) "remember password on printing to windows printers does not work" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/445333 [15:44] * SRU complete, bug #1020210 fixed for precise [15:44] bug 1020210 in eglibc "Race condition using ATOMIC_FASTBINS in _int_free causes crash or heap corruption" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1020210 [15:44] * there is a user experiencing weird Evolution crashes related to some specific content, although there are no crashdumps after them. Looks like Evolution is not using any non-standard, so I am expecting crashdumps from apport to be present in /var/crash. Is that right? [15:45] dgadomski, sorry it took a while on that gtk/printer bug, thanks for the work and persevering to get it SRUed [15:46] seb128: it was quite a change for SRU, so I'm happy that it got through at all :) [15:46] dgadomski, apport should trigger yes, not sure why it doesn't ... if the user can reproduce get him to use gdb? [15:46] seb128: I asked him to do that, waiting for feedback [15:46] k [15:46] dgadomski, thanks [15:46] and one more thing: [15:46] * a problem related to printing from Evince. User's setup: remote cups printer connected to a prorietary Unix server, Ubuntu workstation. The problem is about sending username to cups. The username is not used for authentication, the user just needs it to be printed on every sheet to identify who the printout belongs to. So it works as expected for any other gtk3 application (e.g. gedit, evolution), but fails for Evince. I will take a lo [15:46] ok into the code to check out how it does handle printing. Ccan you recommend anybody that has the knowledge in the Evince area? Just in case. [15:46] sure :-) [15:47] nobody specific for that issue [15:47] just ask on the channel I think, a bunch of us can help you [15:48] seb128: great, thanks, I'll file a bug for discussion as soon as I will get an overview of what is going on there [15:48] that's it from me, thanks [15:48] thanks dgadomski [15:48] #topic didrocks === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: didrocks [15:48] didrocks, hey [15:48] hey [15:48] ubuntu make: [15:48] - default install path discussions [15:48] - last turn of bug triaging before vivid release, nothing big needing a last minute upload [15:48] systemd: [15:48] - systemd fsckd discussion (again) on the upstream ML. Will be kicked off soon, so prepared for this and sanitize the set of patchs in few ones, adapt to v219 and add the last patch which has never been peer-reviewed upstream changing the way fsckd/fsck/plymouth connect to each other (fewer messages and socket chains) [15:48] - add some more fixes to have systemd autopkgtest being independent of lightdm failures (fix flacky tests). Ensure that fsck autopkgtests still work with this. [15:48] - xdiagnose fix to ensure people shooting in their feet by removing the display manager but still booting to graphical target gets a system booting (bug #1441883) [15:48] bug 1441883 in xdiagnose (Ubuntu) "15.04 Vivid Vervet won't boot after uninstalling lightdm" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1441883 [15:48] misc: [15:48] - port gconf (debian scripts), webapps-applications and xdiagnose to python3 [15:48] - wrote some thoughts about converged desktop [15:48] - help/discuss/sponsor larsu's work on gtk3/g-t handling backward compatible (thanks!) [15:48] - patch pilot followup with sponsorees [15:49] . [15:49] didrocks, sorry about how the systemd/fsckd thing went :-/ [15:49] :( [15:50] seb128: well, seeing how another thread on fsck is happening on systemd, I feel not alone at least [15:50] yeah [15:50] * larsu met the systemd guys on a bridge yesterday [15:50] like, all of the rh ones [15:50] and I avoided harsh words on my thread, contrary to the other ones :) [15:50] should've said something :) [15:50] larsu: or pushed them in the water :) [15:50] larsu: well, seems they made their mind, no worry [15:50] didrocks, staying class for the win :-) [15:51] desrt: that's mean (and impossible) [15:51] but yeah "fsck is a thing of a past", not sure I agree with this [15:51] the* [15:51] because btrfs!!!!!1! [15:51] larsu, should have told them to proxy buy you a beer for poor didrocks! [15:51] seb128: haha yeah [15:51] ;) [15:51] :-) [15:51] anyway [15:51] didrocks, thanks! [15:51] yw! [15:51] seb128: just met them while walking the other direction and said hi real quick [15:51] hrhr [15:51] #topic FJKong === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: FJKong [15:51] FJKong, hey [15:51] hey [15:52] * sogou IM new version realease testing, core dump file analyzing [15:52] * learn sample of vala-sqlite for create a scope [15:52] * track with bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntukylin/+bug/1380981 [15:52] Ubuntu bug 1380981 in Ubuntu Kylin "In UEFI mode, default langauge in Ubiquity language chooser is not Simplified Chinese" [Critical,New] [15:52] * go to visa office submit the material and interview [15:52] * Beijing Office Gathering - Invited by Jon [15:52] . [15:53] EOF [15:53] FJKong, thanks [15:53] #topic larsu === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: larsu [15:53] larsu, hey [15:54] hi [15:54] not a lot from me. Worked on gtk and theming bugs this week [15:54] and plan to do that for the rest of the week as well [15:54] (including some triage) [15:54] like the --class thing,gedit underlines, long discussion about horizontal scrolling, etc [15:55] also some flight booking and sneezing (got sick again :( ) [15:55] fin. [15:55] I saw you triaged some gtk buygs, thanks for doing that ;-) [15:55] hope you shake out the bugs before London! [15:55] seb128: got distracted right after I started unfortunately [15:55] larsu, thanks [15:55] seb128: but got to close upstream ones as well in the procrss [15:55] good :-) [15:56] ok, next is... [15:56] #topic qengho === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: qengho [15:56] qengho, hey, there or in that meeting? [15:56] Both. [15:56] - in progress: updating flash player for PES, merging two packages. [15:56] - in progress: convergence mobile-desktop handoff and SNNS file parsing. [15:56] - stalled: chromium update for precise [15:56] EOF [15:56] qengho, thanks [15:56] #topic Sweet5hark === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Sweet5hark [15:56] Sweet5hark, hey [15:57] heya [15:57] - snappy stuff -- FWIW, I think I need some talk time about that in London ;) [15:57] - backport verification [15:57] - prepared LibreOffice 4.3.7~rc1 for PPA [15:57] - upstream refactoring for the next release, killed 1000 LOC convulted C++ production code so far (out of a 5100 LOC file), not quite there yet with adding 1000 LOC of test code in return ... [15:57] - quarterly reports, annual reports, budgeting (ugh) [15:57] EOF [15:57] re. snappy, London is going to be a good time to talk about, I think it's going to be a topic for several discussions [15:58] Sweet5hark, thanks [15:58] seb128: great! [15:58] #topic seb128 === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: seb128 [15:58] • helped to SRU a unity-control-center fix to trusty [15:58] • changed unity-settings-daemon to not do hidpi scaling on the greeter, unity-greeter is having issue with that that needs to be resolved first [15:58] • reviewed/landed vivid fixes to unity-control-center [15:58] • sponsored libreoffice update [15:58] • backported gnome-font-viewer segfault bugfix [15:58] • change bluez to restart the bluetoothd service on errors [15:58] • updated translations in xdg-user-dirs and language-selector for vivid [15:58] • ubuntu-system-settings [15:58] ∘ looked a bit at some issue with the clicks listed in storage and upgrades [15:58] ∘ fixed issue where the discharge graph would start with a spike [15:58] ∘ investigated a bit wrong optionselector value in the lock settings [15:58] • some discussions about hidpi issues in ubiquity [15:58] • tried to debug data not working on the phone, turned out to be a sim issue (android having the same problems/giving as few feedback on it than we do) :-( [15:58] • quite some bugs triage (launchpad & e.u.c) for vivid, pinged people about some issues, looked at some other myself as well [15:58] [15:59] ok, so I think that's it for people here, summaries from others now! [15:59] #topic robert_ancell === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: robert_ancell [15:59] Worked on: [15:59] - Fix gnome-calculator FTBFS [15:59] - Investigate snappy framework for XMir [15:59] - Investigate DRI3 enablement for Intel driver [15:59] - Simple Scan 3.16.1.1, 3.14.3 releases and SRUs [15:59] - Unity Greeter 15.04.4 release [16:00] #topic TheMuso === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: TheMuso [16:00] * Took some errors.ubuntu.com bug reports/crashers for pulseaudio upstream, and getting them looked into. Bug reports in the upstrea tracker will be added to the lp bugs once it has been determined that we do not yet have a fix that we can cherry pick from upstream. [16:00] * Discussion with unity 7 team about some classes relating to some dash widgets, and private classes needing to be exposed publically for a11y improvement work. [16:00] * Started looking into the best way to make sed classes be publically available for improving dash filter settings a11y. [16:00] #topic Laney === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Laney [16:00] • Very many queue reviews and FFe reviews [16:00] • Patch pilot, some random extra sponsoring too (adwaita-icon-theme [16:00] upgrade robustification, an update to Debian for seb) [16:00] [16:01] (hum, client seems to not like the copy spam ... let's try again) [16:01] Laney still [16:01] • Updates: cairo gtk+3.0 gvfs gtksourceview3 [16:01] ∘ package new dconf and dconf-editor in exp for syncing in W [16:01] • Shadows fix in ubuntu-themes (& land this), thanks to ochosi [16:01] • Pick some stuff from the FTBFS and rls-v bug lists to fix before release - next up: proposed-migration. [16:01] ✑ [16:01] #topic tkamppeter === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: tkamppeter [16:01] - cups-filters: Solved the problem of the frequent crashes of cups-browsed [16:01] - cups-filters: Upstream release of 1.0.68, especially containing the crash fix. [16:01] - ghostscript: Applied an upstream bug fix of Ghostscript taking too long when printing DjVu files out of evince. [16:01] - Organizational stuff for trip to Desktop Sprint and OpenPrinting Summit [16:01] - Bugs. [16:02] #topic happyaron === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: happyaron [16:02] * Released sogoupinyin/1.2.0.0048 [16:02] * Ubuntu Kylin RC preparation, bug fixings and uploads [16:02] * Kubuntu fcitx default for zh_* locales [16:02] * Sogou Wubi preparation, [16:02] * Contacts and preparation of Ubuntu Phone's sogoupinyin [16:02] * Working on 1439202 and 1440391 [16:02] #topic other topics === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: other topics [16:02] ok, updates spam done [16:02] do we have any other topic? [16:02] did I forget anyone? [16:02] I made it back! [16:02] Laney: too late, your report was copied already :) [16:02] Laney: a minute too late! [16:03] oh, well, hi ;-) [16:03] with the unicode character, all fine! [16:03] hey Laney [16:03] Laney, any comment/other topic? ;-) [16:04] nein [16:04] ok, seems not [16:04] final freeze is tomorrow though [16:04] it's a wrap then, thanks everyone [16:04] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Welcome to the Desktop Team | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For support please join #ubuntu | Issues with GTK 3.14? Check here: http://pad.ubuntu.com/gtk-update-v [16:04]