[05:18] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> tnx :p
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/Ubuntu-Touch-for-OnePlus-One-Port-Gets-WiFi-Support-478287.shtml
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> gr33n7007h: welcome
[05:46] <gr33n7007h> didn't even notice you pm'd me not got channel listing up not set up weechat as of yet :)
[05:47] <gr33n7007h> noticed it by luck
[05:47]  * gr33n7007h needs to fully set up is irc client
[05:48] <gr33n7007h> lotuspsychje: thanks for the invite
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> gr33n7007h: no sweat mate, tought your query was set to off :p
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> the idea is, we see alot of active supporters in #ubuntu helping others, but never chat to each other
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> this might have positive changes
[05:49] <gr33n7007h> yeah, sounds like a great idea
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> tnx and great to have you here
[05:50] <gr33n7007h> cheers
[05:51] <gr33n7007h> Where ever did ActionParsnip go to?
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> i see him rarely
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> some guys did a lot of support in the past and some dissapeared
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> like dr_willis
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> never saw him either
[05:54] <gr33n7007h> ah, yeah dr_willis remeber him to
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[06:09] <lordievader> good morning.
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> good afternoon
[11:07] <lordievader> o/
[11:07] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: hello mate
[11:07] <lordievader> How are you doing?
[11:08] <lotuspsychje> great and you?
[11:08] <lotuspsychje> nice sunshine today
[11:08] <lordievader> Got a coffee next to me, guess I'm doing allright.
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> yummy
[11:10] <lordievader> :)
[11:11] <MonkeyDust> coffe gives meaning to my life
[11:11] <lordievader> http://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/32gzld/you_left_without_fixing_it/
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> coffee with an ubuntu cookie :p
[11:12]  * lordievader slides a mug of "meaning of life" to MonkeyDust 
[11:13] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: morning mate
[11:14] <BluesKaj> HI all
[11:14] <BluesKaj> 'Morning lotuspsychje, what's happening today ?
[11:15] <lordievader> o/
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: new article on softpedia, they fixxed wifi on oneplusone phone (ubuntu touch)
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/Ubuntu-Touch-for-OnePlus-One-Port-Gets-WiFi-Support-478287.shtml
[11:16] <BluesKaj> I must be getting old ...don't have desire for a "smartphone"
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: well i have a nexus7 with touch on, very happy with it
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> small tablet can be usefull sometimes
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> quick checking your emails while you watch tv
[11:18] <BluesKaj> heh, my pc monitor is my tv
[11:18] <lotuspsychje> loool
[11:18] <lotuspsychje> you got a myth tv ubuntu?
[11:19] <BluesKaj> it's an actual tv, not a pc monitor, no mythtv I have a sat service
[11:20] <lotuspsychje> ah cool
[11:20] <BluesKaj> in the boonies , otherwise I probly would have mythtv
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> i like the way ubuntu spreads on hardware these days
[11:21] <BluesKaj> mythtv is good for large cities where there are lots of free ota siganals
[11:22] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: your sat is connected to internet also?
[11:22]  * lordievader still has a dumb phone
[11:22] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: me also a cheap 50 euro nokia :p
[11:22] <lotuspsychje> but it can make calls!
[11:22] <lordievader> Don't think mine was ever worth 50 euros XD
[11:22] <lotuspsychje> lool
[11:23] <BluesKaj> my sat is connected , but it's only used for the program guide updates
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: did you doublecheck if it cant be exploited or remote takeover
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> mostly those sats are setup with weak l:p on telnet
[11:25] <lordievader> Exploited in Canda?
[11:26] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, no I haven't , but Bell Canada is quite proprietary and theur pvrs are tightly locked
[11:26] <BluesKaj> their pvrs
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> what brand of sat is this?
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> in the netherlands they use many dreambox and those have weak login:pass
[11:32] <lordievader> http://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/32igvt/a_special_congrats_to_my_mother/
[11:35] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: your reading weird things on the net :p
[11:36] <lotuspsychje> i installed ubuntu on my fathers pc, he's also 78 year and he never been able to crash it
[11:36] <lotuspsychje> with windows on, i had to come back every month to fix lol
[11:36] <lordievader> ?
[11:37] <OerHeks> Oh, now you see him with crhistmass only?
[11:37] <lordievader> It's just tfts on reddit.
[11:37] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: lol
[11:37] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, I can't find out who actually makes the pvr , althjo it's the same maker as Dish network in the US . Scientific Atlanta made the old models , but the newer HD pvrs are amystery to me .
[11:41] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: i would do an nmap on yourself to check if the sat telnet is open
[11:41] <BluesKaj> it's seen by the router
[11:43] <BluesKaj> I'll nmap as soon the system is finished upgrading ...I need to install nmap
[11:44] <lotuspsychje> okay :p
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: in the past it was easy to telnet into dreambox with default telnet pass, and even watch the sattelite over-web
[11:46] <BluesKaj> not here
[11:46] <lotuspsychje> okay :p
[11:47] <lordievader> How about not forwarding port, what is it, 21?
[11:47] <BluesKaj> at least so I've been told , never tried to telnet into the pvr so I can't be absolutely sure, lotuspsychje
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> i would surely doublecheck
[11:49] <BluesKaj> yes I will ,as soon as i can
[11:49] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: want me to nmap you, dont tell to the cops ok :p
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> oh your on vpn nevermind
[11:50] <BluesKaj> you can try, but i'm on a vpn
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> :p
[11:50] <lordievader> Port scanning ain't illegal.
[11:50] <BluesKaj> port 21 for telnet?
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: to be a burgler and look inside someones house isnt illegal neither :p
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> port 22 normaly
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> and port 80 might also we open on the sat
[11:52] <lordievader> 22 is ssh...
[11:52] <lordievader> Telnet != ssh.
[11:53] <lordievader> Ah, 23: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telnet
[11:53] <lotuspsychje> yeah 23
[11:53] <lotuspsychje> 21 is ftp
[11:58] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, got a command I could use ?
[11:58] <BluesKaj> for nmap
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: nmap -PN -sV yourip
[11:58] <lordievader> nmap -p 23 -Pn ip
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> sV is handy for services active
[11:59] <lordievader> You're only interested in the state of port 23. Which shouldn't be forwarded...
[12:00] <BluesKaj> All 1000 scanned ports on 192.168.X.XX are closed
[12:01] <lotuspsychje> nice and secure ubuntu :p
[12:01] <lotuspsychje> or good router
[12:01] <lordievader> On 192.168? Try your public ip.
[12:01] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: yeah public ip might show usefull stuff
[12:01] <lotuspsychje> check whatsmyip
[12:02] <lordievader> dig +short myip.opendns.com @resolver1.opendns.com
[12:02] <BluesKaj> I know what my IP is
[12:02] <BluesKaj> 23/tcp closed telnet on the pvr
[12:03] <BluesKaj> I have my ISPs dns server IPs setup in the router as well
[12:04] <lotuspsychje> ok
[12:04] <lordievader> lotuspsychje: Besides, Ubuntu's firewall config is very lacking by default. Accept all...
[12:04] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: true, but what will someone do with the open ports
[12:05] <BluesKaj> this the IP looup site that I use , it's quite accurate. mostly http://www.ip-tracker.org/
[12:05] <BluesKaj> lookup
[12:05] <lordievader> lotuspsychje: It means that access to ports is completely unregulated.
[12:06] <lotuspsychje> sure
[12:06] <lordievader> That I have smb running doesn't mean that I want the full world to access it.
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> true
[12:08] <lordievader> What Ubuntu should have done by default is use the drop policy on the input table. And allow related and established connections in the input table.
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: maybe a sugestion for the ubuntu brainstorm
[12:09] <lordievader> Meh, they probably have reasons for the way they do things.
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> probably
[12:27] <MonkeyDust> twitter: I just sneezed... FB status: running noses
[12:27] <MonkeyDust> nose*
[12:27] <MonkeyDust> thought you wanted to know
[12:28] <lotuspsychje> lol
[13:06] <BluesKaj> well, my pvr seems locked down pretty tightly
[16:11] <daftykins> i seem to identify a hell of a lot of dead hard disks over in #ubuntu 0o
[16:11] <daftykins> i'll start getting a reputation before too long...
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: :p
[16:12] <OerHeks> You mean booting in blackscreen or grub after update?
[16:12] <lordievader> The man, or woman, who kills harddisks through IRC!
[16:12] <daftykins> OerHeks: who was that at?
[16:12] <OerHeks> for you, i have a client in #ubuntu-nl, struggeling with this issue over and over again
[16:13] <daftykins> oh this was genuine disk failure - check out last nights http://paste.ubuntu.com/10819664/
[16:13] <daftykins> but certainly plenty of symptoms can result from a disk in this kind of condition
[16:14] <lordievader> daftykins: 0 reallocated sectors...
[16:14] <daftykins> keep reading, lordievader
[16:14] <daftykins> :>
[16:14] <lordievader> Jup, never mind.
[16:14] <daftykins> the key lines are 52, 66 and 67
[16:14] <daftykins> plus all the errors recorded thereafter
[16:16] <lotuspsychje> hitachi's arent the best hd's
[16:17] <daftykins> i thought that, though a friend found an article the other day that claims they have the lowest fault tolerance of desktop consumer HDDs 9i
[16:17] <daftykins> * 0o
[16:17] <lordievader> High failure rates on Hitachi's.
[16:17] <lotuspsychje> ill swear by seagates
[16:17] <lotuspsychje> and samsung ssd's :p
[16:18] <daftykins> seagates have too low warranty a lot of the time
[16:18] <daftykins> i always buy WD
[16:18] <lotuspsychje> i had few wd's fail on me also
[16:18] <daftykins> ooh that reminds me
[16:18] <daftykins> yeah i think they all die plenty :>
[16:19] <lotuspsychje> i never had a seagate fail
[16:20] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/00bzkubbvat9hgx/IMG_20150413_190602.jpg?dl=0
[16:20] <daftykins> :D
[16:20]  * lordievader doesn't like Seagates either.
[16:20] <lordievader> WD :D
[16:21] <daftykins> finished off an 8 x 2TB RAID6 -> 8 x 4TB RAID6 move last night
[16:21] <daftykins> so. many. screws.
[16:22] <daftykins> spent a good time removing the 5 years of dust from the system too :D
[16:22] <lotuspsychje> lol@pic
[16:23] <daftykins> 48TB ^_^
[16:24] <daftykins> all the 2TB disks are out of warranty and needed ditching y'see
[16:25] <daftykins> /dev/sdb1        22T  9.0T   13T  41% /media/array2
[16:25] <daftykins> huzzah
[16:27] <lordievader> No lvm raid?
[16:27] <daftykins> it's on a 3ware HBA
[16:27] <daftykins> even if i did know how to use any LVM magic it'd have no use for it there
[16:29] <lordievader> LVM raid is quite flexible as you can specify what kind of raid you want per logical volume. But I suppose a hardware raid is faster.
[16:31] <daftykins> i have thought about playing with some other setups like ZFS, but between using the 3ware cards simple management to fix issues and the idea of staring at logs for hours on end - i chose the former :D
[16:31] <daftykins> i spot when the disks fail early as well, as it does a nice scheduled weekly verification across the arrays
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> i just watched blackhat..nice movie :p
[16:35] <BluesKaj> yeah, i tried a LVM partition management type install from scratch so I could run qemu-kvm with plenty of space for guest OS , but it mucked  up my partitions after I removeed qemu-kvm and I needed rescue support to fix my partitions
[16:35] <daftykins> 2015 film?
[16:35] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: yes
[16:35] <daftykins> hmm sounds very topical according to IMDB :D
[16:36] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: well i liked it, and finally a hacking movie with some real linux commands to see
[16:36] <daftykins> woohoo \o/
[16:37] <daftykins> i wonder if the upcoming third Tron film will use some factual ones too
[16:37] <daftykins> they at least used 'whoami' in Tron: Legacy ;)
[16:37] <lotuspsychje> :p
[16:38] <daftykins> seem to remember nmap cropping up somewhere too - maybe that was the Matrix
[16:38] <lotuspsychje> knock knock
[16:39] <lotuspsychje> wake up neo.....
[16:40] <EriC^^> neo's drunk come back later
[16:40] <lotuspsychje> loool
[16:40] <EriC^^> sudo poweroff
[16:40] <lotuspsychje> he saw too many wite wabbits
[16:42] <daftykins> :D
[17:03] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/04/beta-plasma-5-3-features
[17:13] <lotuspsychje> this is a weird support day oO
[17:14] <lotuspsychje> took too many of those neo pills i think
[17:16] <daftykins> i find my faith in the common man drops constantly, being in #ubuntu
[17:21] <lordievader> Hehe... Keep your chin up.
[17:21] <lotuspsychje> we poor volunteers :p
[17:23] <lotuspsychje> ki7mt: welcome :p
[17:23] <ki7mt> Hola
[17:29] <lotuspsychje> http://ubuntuonair.com/
[17:30] <lotuspsychje> seen on https://twitter.com/ubuntu
[17:35] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: you skared him :p
[17:35] <OerHeks> Ido, do i?
[17:36] <OerHeks> Maybe that is why my chihuahua's bark at me.
[17:36] <lotuspsychje> lol
[17:36] <daftykins> do we figure that these other distros are too silly to modify their IRC client packages to not join #ubuntu as default 0o
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> that would be a great start
[17:37] <daftykins> to be honest even Ubuntu should disable it ;)
[17:38] <lotuspsychje> that would surely safe alot of work
[17:38] <OerHeks> i think #ubuntu should support all forks :-D
[17:39] <daftykins> seriously? :P
[17:39] <EriC^^> OerHeks: mind your table manners please :P
[17:39] <OerHeks> plus vivid 15.04 beta2
[17:39] <lotuspsychje> i rather like straight ubuntu in here
[17:39] <OerHeks> EriC^^,  i have never been banned, i am missing some experience.
[17:40] <OerHeks> I am hungry, thinking what i should make for diner.
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> !cookie
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> cool bot works here too
[17:40] <ki7mt> +1 .. I would not mind all the offcical ditro's, Lub, Xub, Kub, etc being in #ubuntu  but not Kali and all those.
[17:41] <lordievader> People allways wonder why everything is together in #ubuntu+1.
[17:41] <EriC^^> i just made something gross, hamburger bread with ketchup mustard and cheese, microwaved, OerHeks i wouldn't recommend
[17:41] <daftykins> ki7mt: those are already fine to be discussed in there
[17:41] <EriC^^> i was too lazy to order pizza
[17:41] <daftykins> it's all the downstream distros like Mint, this new Backbox thing and Elementary OS - all that rubbish :)
[17:41] <ki7mt> And Mint especially, that one really gets on my nerves, even though I test pkgs on it.
[17:42] <lotuspsychje> true
[17:42] <daftykins> back in a tick
[17:43] <OerHeks> Sad thing is, thoose forks are too lazy to give support. For pentesting distros i can imagine, who wants to help wannabee-hackers?
[17:43] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: sounds real healthy :p
[17:43]  * lotuspsychje lowers his hand
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> i never got that, pentesting tools can be just downloaded as packages..whats the big deal
[17:45] <lotuspsychje> !info john
[17:45] <lordievader> lotuspsychje: It is usefull to have them all together, then you can just start a vm and done.
[17:45] <ki7mt> OerHeks, Most of them cant provide support, as the base engine is Ubuntu, and they don't  re-spin the packaging, so they've no real knowledge of what's really going on.
[17:46] <ki7mt> At least with Ubuntu, it's a fairly tight integration to Debian.
[17:47] <ki7mt> 90+% of the Mint users say Mint is not Ubuntu .. I disagree, it's Ubuntu with a variant DE + More Bugs ;)
[17:48] <lotuspsychje> bbl guys
[17:53] <ki7mt> man, python-pil v2.6.1 is giving me major issues on 14.10 and Jessie .. I hope they backport 2.5.3 as 2.6.1 is FUBAR
[18:24] <ki7mt> How many of you all are Ubuntu Members ? I've been working on that for a while, but I dont seem to be making much progress in getting the membership.
[18:28] <OerHeks> ki7mt, i am, after 5 years of hangin in #ubuntu and giving support.
[18:29] <OerHeks> ki7mt, but there is no minimum time to it, you need to prove that you contribute, and find persons who want to write a testimonial for you
[18:29] <OerHeks> * and have no history of beiing banned for childish reasons and such
[18:29] <ki7mt> Yeah, Iv'e been here off and on for at least 5yrs, been using UB since the 5.04 or there abouts.
[18:30] <OerHeks> ki7mt, go for it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership
[18:30] <ki7mt> I've never been banned, ever. I've had situations where we had to "Agree to Disagree", but nothing nasty ever.
[18:31] <ki7mt> OerHeks, Yeah., I've done some Doc work, packaging, Q&A, IRC, QA ISO and app testing, just not in mass quanity.
[18:32] <OerHeks> ki7mt, you might have done more for ubuntu than i did sofar, who can tell, who can judge?
[18:32] <ki7mt> Im also upstram on several packages, so time is also an issue.
[18:32] <ki7mt> .. upstream
[18:33] <ki7mt> I guess I could throw my name in the hat, and see what the feedback is .. I just dont do rejection very well :-)
[18:34] <OerHeks> Take your time to write something about yourself, and let me know please.
[18:34] <ki7mt> I think I have my wiki up .. have to go find it, I don't spend allot of time on it, maybe I should.
[18:35] <ki7mt> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KI7MT
[18:35] <OerHeks> yeah, just saw your Karma :-D
[18:36] <ki7mt> It's not very high, I've not done allot fo packaging work lately.
[18:37] <ki7mt> Karma on Launchpad that is.
[18:37] <OerHeks> This is the past, what do you expect from beiing a member?
[18:37] <OerHeks> from-of*
[18:38] <lordievader> I get the feeling you'll do fine, ki7mt.
[18:38] <OerHeks> me too, lordievader
[18:39] <ki7mt> That's a good question .. I suppose, from a personal standpoint it's a sense of achievement, from a Ubuntu community stanpoint, give back to the community, help drive and shape the future of various aspects things like that.
[18:40] <OerHeks> True.
[18:43] <ki7mt> I dont think we get Karma for IRC though do we ?
[18:43] <ki7mt> at least, not on Launchpad
[18:43] <OerHeks> No, i don't think so.
[18:44] <OerHeks> ..maybe !cookie | ki7mt  counts
[18:44] <lordievader> Hehe
[18:44] <ki7mt> Yeah, I would think so, those are cool
[18:45] <lordievader> !cookie | ki7mt
[18:45] <OerHeks>  /msg ubottu i love you # +10
[18:45] <ki7mt> I like cookies :-)
[18:45] <lordievader> ki7mt: You'll love the Darkside, we got cookies :D
[18:47] <ki7mt> Indeed :-)
[19:35] <OerHeks> ki7mt, that 98 should really try mint :-D
[19:36] <ki7mt> Yeah, I use Mint, mostly for testing, but I dont like Green :-)
[19:36] <OerHeks> I like green, but mint is slower than ubuntu
[19:36] <OerHeks> microseconds, but slower.
[19:37] <lordievader> Time to learn some awk.
[19:37] <ki7mt> Yeah, I noticed that too on 17.1, like opening the FM and things, first time around it like stalls then goes.
[20:09] <lordievader> Awk is pretty sweet.
[20:13] <ki7mt> awk, sed and grep, if you can master those three thing, CLI is stupid powerful
[20:20] <lordievader> I'm quite okay with sed and grep. But all I could do in awk before was print out a column.