[04:37] <barrydk> More almal
[05:23] <Kilos> morning all
[05:24] <Kilos> good evening tumbleweed  all good there?
[05:29] <Kilos> hi Tonberry  
[05:29] <Tonberry> hi
[05:57] <Kilos> hi pieter2627  
[05:59] <pieter2627> morning Kilos
[06:17] <plustwo> good morning everyone
[06:44] <inetpro> good mornings
[06:44] <inetpro> oh and hi plustwo as well
[06:48] <Jacques_Stry> Morning all
[06:50] <superfly> morning everyone
[06:50]  * Jacques_Stry waves
[06:57] <Jacques_Stry> Sorry for being away so long - was on vacation on a game farm(no signal)
[06:59] <superfly> nice !
[07:01] <Jacques_Stry> Was nice - except being offline for 2 weeks >.<
[07:48] <Squirm> Morning
[08:29] <Kilos> hmm... loadshedding done for the day hopefully
[08:29] <Jacques_Stry> haha i'm probably going off in 30 min
[08:30] <Kilos> hi Jacques_Stry  
[08:30] <Kilos> what a pain
[08:30] <Jacques_Stry> Hi Kilos :)
[08:34] <Jacques_Stry> 2 Days till 15.04 Release Candidate
[08:34] <Kilos> im very tempted to try it
[08:34] <Jacques_Stry> Same
[08:35]  * pieter2627 wonders how many will try it
[08:35] <Kilos> the main things are systemd and mir right?
[08:35] <Kilos> maybe ill go kde and see what plasma5 is like
[08:35] <Jacques_Stry> I'm especially cautious of MIR
[08:36] <Kilos> is kde also going to be using it?
[08:36] <Jacques_Stry> Don't think so
[08:36] <Kilos> oh isnt the x thing flavour wide
[08:40] <Jacques_Stry> Last time i heard Kubuntu was still wondering whether to go wayland or mir
[08:40] <Kilos> ah
[08:41] <Kilos> im trying to think what you havent done Jacques_Stry  with you unanounced holiday
[08:41] <Jacques_Stry> >.<
[08:42] <Kilos> lol
[08:42] <Jacques_Stry> Yea it was a bit of a impulsive decision
[08:42] <Kilos> oh you guys blog is at
[08:42] <Kilos> Maaz  padroni.blog
[08:42] <Maaz> http://compunation.co.za/
[08:43] <Kilos> its more like a help thing
[08:43] <Kilos> some cool advice there
[08:43] <Jacques_Stry> Yea I still have a few things I have to add
[08:44] <Kilos> has inetpro  said anything today?
[08:44] <Jacques_Stry> Not that I know of
[08:45] <inetpro> Kilos: yes
[08:45] <Kilos> we are lucky at night an old hand, hibana, watches him at night
[08:45] <Jacques_Stry> Haha
[08:45] <Kilos> ohi inetpro  koud in die oggend ne
[08:46] <Kilos> inetpro  did you go see the conversation of last night on locoteams
[08:49] <Kilos> from about 20.31
[08:50] <inetpro> Kilos: ai!
[08:50] <inetpro> you'll get yourself in trouble very quickly
[08:51] <Kilos> nono we will do it legally
[08:51] <inetpro> just be patient and the the fly handle it
[08:51] <Kilos> ive applied
[08:51] <inetpro> let the fly*
[08:51] <inetpro> jaja, and what exactly did you fill in... don't just do that... first discuss!
[08:52] <Kilos> ok let me try find that thing again
[08:52] <inetpro> too late now
[08:52] <Kilos> well we dont need a domain name right?
[08:53] <inetpro> you see, there we go again
[08:53] <inetpro> Maaz: assumption
[08:53] <Maaz> An assumption is a proposition that is taken for granted, as if it were true based upon presupposition without preponderance of the facts, but when made by intelligent people is often proven to be true.
[08:53] <Kilos> so i asked for permision to use the buntu logo on a site
[08:53] <Kilos> oh do we?
[08:54] <Kilos> oh my
[08:54] <Kilos> well DalekSec  is here so he can advise what they say
[08:54] <Kilos> hi DalekSec  
[08:55] <Kilos> oi its 4 am there
[08:57] <Kilos> lol inetpro  i couldnt first discuss, you went to bed
[08:57] <inetpro> Kilos: no, you must learn to find that pause button of yours
[08:58]  * Kilos looks
[08:58] <Kilos> oh thats the broken one
[08:58] <inetpro> fix it, because I know you have one
[08:59] <Kilos> lol
[08:59] <inetpro> you've often used it even
[09:03] <inetpro> Kilos: you press your pause button and an automatic message comes up as follows, "thanks $who, I will discuss with our team and get back to you asap"
[09:03] <Kilos> aha
[09:04] <inetpro> now please go fix your remote :-)
[09:04] <Kilos> ok will do
[09:17] <Kilos> hi SDCDev  
[09:19] <SDCDev> hey Kilos
[09:21] <Kilos> hi dan
[09:21] <Kilos> ai!
[09:21] <Kilos> danfowler  
[09:22] <danfowler> yo
[09:58] <Kilos> hmm...
[10:03] <Jacques_Stry> Hmmmm...
[10:04] <Kilos> Maaz  hmm...
[10:04] <Maaz> hmm... is often used to try make others believe one is actually thinking
[10:05] <Jacques_Stry> Good thing Maaz doesn't use urban dictionary
[10:05] <Kilos> lol
[10:13] <inetpro_> hmm...
[10:15] <Kilos> wb inetpro  and other hoppers
[11:24] <Kilos> sjoe
[11:26] <Jacques_Stry> irc giving prob's?
[11:26] <inetpro> ty Kilos
[11:27] <inetpro> netsplits messing us around
[11:27] <Kilos> ai!
[11:28] <Kilos> maybe i must go back to drive repairs and data recovery
[11:28] <inetpro> the bad peeps having fun again
[11:28] <Kilos> yeah looks like
[11:28] <inetpro> where is padroni when we need him?
[11:29] <Kilos> he has gone for a job interview today
[11:40] <Kilos> actuallinetthats a good idea, rmember to ask him if he can trace and stop that kinda bad peeps
[11:42] <Kilos> will be trickt i think, dont they use other peeps pcs to cause the prob
[11:42] <Kilos> tricky
[11:42] <Kilos> oh my now spcae bar playing up
[11:42] <Kilos> space
[11:43] <Jacques_Stry> haha
[11:44] <Kilos> better to blame it on the keyboard than clumsy fingers i think
[11:46] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn  wb
[11:46] <Kilos> blame it on looking after the new baby
[11:46] <nlsthzn> o/ uncle Kilos 
[11:46] <nlsthzn> oh that is a big part of it :p
[11:46] <Kilos> lol
[11:46] <Kilos> you well lad?
[11:47] <Kilos> and the family?
[11:49] <nlsthzn> fine thanks, how are things with you and yours over there in sunny ZA-land (and obviously abroad ;))
[11:50] <Kilos> we all seem fine ty . note seem
[11:52] <Kilos> im in trouble again as usual
[11:53] <Kilos> said something i shouldnt have or ommited something i shouldnt have or didnt do what i should have
[11:53] <Kilos> sigh
[11:54] <nlsthzn> I guess it happens... hope it resolves itself quickly
[11:54] <Kilos> hmm...
[11:55] <Kilos> well i suppose thats up to the pro
[11:55] <Kilos> with every mood swing im in a different place
[11:57] <Kilos> and ill be in trouble because i didnt give you work to do
[11:57] <Kilos> etc etc
[12:00]  * Kilos hides
[12:01] <nlsthzn> ?
[12:01] <Kilos> lol
[12:02] <Kilos> just joking man
[12:02] <Kilos> pro must be working for a change
[12:04] <Kilos> why am i getting lots of there when updating
[12:04] <Kilos> W: Failed to fetch http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-security/universe/binary-i386/Packages  403  Forbidden [IP: 197.155.77.2 80]
[12:04] <Kilos> Symmetri1  what have you broken
[12:08] <Jacques_Stry> have had that allot lately too Kilos
[12:08] <Jacques_Stry> change your source mirror to saix
[12:09] <Kilos> i just swopped to the neology mirror and update ran fine
[12:09] <Kilos> neology is fast
[12:09] <Jacques_Stry> i'll try that
[12:10] <Kilos> and last i checked it was the first mirror to be updated
[12:10] <Jacques_Stry> nice
[12:11] <Kilos> Symmetri1  is loafing on the job again
[12:12] <Kilos> someone here works there but i forget who
[12:16] <Kilos> oi system restart needed
[12:16] <Kilos> wbb
[12:16] <Jacques_Stry> k
[12:18] <Jacques_Stry> WB
[12:18] <Kilos> ty
[12:19] <Kilos> 14.04 kde has been so good to me
[12:24] <Kilos> Jacques_Stry  do you get the ubuntu weekly newsletter
[12:25] <Jacques_Stry> No...
[12:25] <Jacques_Stry> Where can I sign up?
[12:25] <Kilos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue412
[12:26] <Kilos> maybe there is a link there to sign up
[12:26] <Jacques_Stry> There is
[12:26] <Jacques_Stry> Marked 18.
[12:27] <Kilos> i get it in the mail but dont remember how i did that
[12:27] <Kilos> hehe
[12:39] <Kilos> oh Jacques_Stry  i just remembered
[12:40] <Jacques_Stry> Yes?
[12:40] <Kilos> william is running some thing to get books for schools
[12:40] <Kilos> are you on our mailing list
[12:40] <Jacques_Stry> Don't think so - I should sub
[12:41] <Kilos> go to our site and joing from there
[12:41] <Jacques_Stry> k
[12:41] <Kilos> join
[12:42] <Jacques_Stry> Subbed
[12:42] <Kilos> ok ill mail the list and see if wwk can update on whats happening
[12:46] <Kilos> you should get your first mail there shortly
[12:53] <inetpro> ai!
[12:53] <Kilos> wat nou?
[12:54] <inetpro> Kilos: you should catch that barry dude before he goes and tie him to a pole
[12:54] <Kilos> lol why?
[12:54] <inetpro> Jacques_Stry: check the archives at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-za/2015-April/thread.html
[12:54] <Kilos> they knock off at this time
[12:55] <inetpro> Kilos: he's way to slippery
[12:55] <inetpro> comes and goes without saying much
[12:55] <Kilos> no man hes is here early and knocks off now
[12:55] <Kilos> if i dont greet he does
[12:55] <Kilos> same as most peeps here
[12:55] <Kilos> he doesnt 
[12:56] <inetpro> Kilos: relax!!
[12:56]  * inetpro is not even upset with you 
[12:56]  * Kilos relaxes
[12:56] <Kilos> oh wow its gonna rain
[12:58] <inetpro> you see, you keep making the wrong assumptions
[12:58] <Jacques_Stry> These email lists confuse the hell out of me...
[12:58] <Kilos> yaya but i have an excuse, whats yours
[12:59] <Kilos> our list is cool Jacques_Stry  
[12:59] <Kilos> no spam unless from me
[13:00] <Jacques_Stry> haha, I just can't get used to the formatting - doesn't feel like conversations flow
[13:00] <inetpro> Jacques_Stry: I agree Jacques_Stry, thanks!
[13:00] <Kilos> why do you think i prefer irc
[13:00] <inetpro> that's because some peeps continue to ignore our calls about top posting etc
[13:01]  * inetpro still prefers a default setting of text only emails
[13:02] <Kilos> some top post and others bottom post. i just delete as much as possible now from old posts and bottom post
[13:07] <Kilos> if i dont delee most of the stuff , fly fights me
[13:07] <Kilos> delete
[13:08] <Kilos> wbb, just wanna test sisters sim
[13:12] <arnaudmez_> hello guys
[13:12] <arnaudmez_> hello Kilos
[13:12] <Jacques_Stry> Hi
[13:12] <Kilos> hi arnaudmez_  
[13:13] <Kilos> whats broken arnaudmez_  
[13:14] <arnaudmez_> nothing
[13:14] <arnaudmez_> wish I could break something today
[13:14] <Kilos> lol no man
[13:14] <Kilos> you have lots of work
[13:15] <Kilos> this visiting once a month or less is very sad
[13:15] <Kilos> you need to get members on #ubuntu-africa
[13:16] <Kilos> or linux users anyway so i can convert them to ubuntu
[13:18] <Kilos> oh my that frightened him
[13:24] <Jacques_Stry> brb going home
[13:25] <Kilos> hmm...
[13:39] <Kilos> oi join/part same time
[13:40] <Kilos> ek sukkel darem
[13:42] <Kilos> hi georgelappies  
[13:47] <georgelappies> hi Kilos, how are you?
[13:47] <Kilos> good ty and you?
[13:47] <georgelappies> good thanks
[13:54] <Kilos> hi kulelu88  
[13:54] <kulelu88> do you guys know how to setup internal 3G on a laptop where you insert the sim card in it?
[14:01] <Kilos> on ubuntu?
[14:02] <Kilos> play in network manager setup it should see it
[15:02] <Kilos> aw i missed mage
[16:06] <Kilos> nou gaan julle sukkel
[16:07] <pieter2627> evening all
[16:07] <Kilos> hi pieter2627  
[16:13] <Squirm> Load Shedding Stage 3B
[16:13] <Squirm> The joy...
[16:14] <Kilos> eish i already had over 2 hours this morning
[16:34] <georgelappies> yeah load sheddding stage 3 till 22:00
[16:34] <Kilos> eish
[16:34] <georgelappies> then it is stage 2 till 06:00
[16:36] <Kilos> hi kulelu88  did you win?
[16:37] <kulelu88> nope
[16:37] <kulelu88> still trying to figure it out
[16:37] <Kilos> doesnt network manager see it?
[16:37] <Kilos> maybe a driver needed
[16:38] <kulelu88> yeah I'm thinking a driver is needed
[16:38] <Kilos> you on unity?
[16:38] <Kilos> i dont know if additional drivers looks there too
[16:39] <kulelu88> i'm on xfce
[16:40] <Kilos> does that not have the additional drivers function
[16:40] <kulelu88> you mean the option?
[16:40] <kulelu88> it's there
[16:41] <Kilos> what does that say
[16:42] <kulelu88> it doesn't specify an internal 3G driver
[16:42] <Kilos> oh my
[16:43] <Kilos> someone will know
[16:44] <Kilos> might be the lappy manufacturer settings
[16:44] <Kilos> maybe in bios
[16:58] <kulelu88> oh ja. crap, I'll need to fix it before tomorrow. loadshitting at 4
[16:58] <Kilos> ai!
[18:32] <Kilos> hmm...
[18:35] <superfly> I think we're safe for the night
[18:36] <Kilos> from loadshedding?
[19:25] <Kilos> hi qwebirc57646  
[19:25] <Kilos> qwebirc57646  
[19:26] <Kilos> guys can someone guide qwebirc57646  here please
[19:26] <Kilos> he has an internal bluetooth
[19:27] <Kilos> and it doesnt light up when turned on
[19:27] <qwebirc57646> Im the guy looking for Help and Kilos is trying to help me . Await assistance. 
[19:27] <Kilos> qwebirc57646  ping
[19:27] <Kilos> cool
[19:28] <Kilos> qwebirc57646  just be patient the guys are busy
[19:28] <qwebirc57646> yea sure I can wait 
[19:28] <Kilos> qwebirc57646  is from finland guys
[19:32] <Kilos> elacheche  you here?
[19:33] <Kilos> ai!
[19:33] <kulelu88> does anybody know how to unlock a 3G modem from a network?
[19:33] <qwebirc57646> hello.
[19:36] <Kilos> whew kulelu88  very quiet here tonightr
[19:37] <kulelu88> I figured
[19:37] <kulelu88> now I need to buy a 3G modem or get a tablet and use it on wifi mode
[19:39] <Kilos> what do you see in bios
[19:40] <Kilos> isnt there some setting to enable wireless and other stuff
[19:40] <kulelu88> I checked
[19:40] <kulelu88> nothing in there about it
[19:41] <Kilos> whew
[19:41] <kulelu88> I'll try their forums
[19:41] <Kilos> the manufacturers
[19:41] <Kilos> must be a simple setting
[19:42] <Kilos> because 3g is quite common in network manager
[19:42] <kulelu88> it can find a dongle easy
[19:42] <Kilos> open nm and look 
[19:42] <kulelu88> but internal 3G I don't know
[19:42] <Kilos> oh
[19:42] <Kilos> whew
[19:42] <kulelu88> most folks have used the files from the windows driver
[19:42] <Kilos> even more whew
[19:42] <kulelu88> I'm beginning to wonder if this machine has the WWAN card 
[19:43] <kulelu88> bloody phoned the seller and they say it does support it
[19:43] <Kilos> ubuntu is good with hardware 
[19:43] <kulelu88> this is balls. I need this cause those numbnuts at shitkom cant supply power
[19:48] <MaNI> have you figured out what chipset it is? thats usually a good starting point - try lspci or lshw commands and see what comes up
[19:52] <Kilos> MaNI  can i hit you with this bluetooth prob as well please?
[19:52] <Kilos> i know nothing about internal bluetooth
[19:53] <MaNI> don't have much bluetooth on linux experience, but my above comment stands, figuring out the chipset is the best starting point
[19:54] <kulelu88> I think the powercuts have messed my modem up also
[19:55] <Kilos> eish
[19:55] <kulelu88> can anyone access pastee.org?
[19:55] <kulelu88> https://pastee.org
[19:55] <Kilos> ya im in
[19:55] <kulelu88> i'm getting lagged
[19:57] <Kilos> pastee is slower than slexy.org though
[19:57] <Kilos> and http://bin.snyman.info is even faster
[19:58] <kulelu88> https guarantees better security
[19:58] <kulelu88> but anyways
[19:59] <kulelu88> MaNI: Here is the output: http://slexy.org/view/s2vl890iUT
[20:00] <kulelu88> it doesn't look like an internal card reader exists
[20:00] <Kilos> Maaz  time in finland
[20:00] <Maaz> Kilos: It is 2015-04-14 23:00:56 EEST
[20:01] <Kilos> ah an hour ahead of us
[20:01] <kulelu88> whos in Finland?
[20:02] <Kilos> that qwerbirc guy
[20:02] <kulelu88> he left
[20:02] <Kilos> i get caught up all over the world
[20:03] <Kilos> ya he is tired so will come back tomorrow
[20:03] <Kilos> hehe
[20:03] <Kilos> new to ubuntu as well
[20:04] <Kilos> and new to irc
[20:04] <MaNI> kulelu88, yeah I only see SD card reader and wireless card there
[20:05] <Kilos> inetpro  you asleep already?
[20:05] <Kilos> ai! he is really getting old
[20:06] <kulelu88> MaNI: I don't know if lshw provides more info though. it looks like something is there
[20:06] <MaNI> lshw is much more comprehensive usually
[20:07] <kulelu88> Let me show you the relevant output for it
[20:09] <inetpro> Kilos: yes 
[20:09] <inetpro> oh I mean... 
[20:09] <Kilos> sleep tight old man
[20:09] <Kilos> oh you mean you old
[20:10] <Kilos> or you mean no you not asleep
[20:10] <kulelu88> MaNI: http://slexy.org/view/s208xK0Y5M
[20:14] <MaNI> hrm I still just see wireless/SD card reader/ethernet/audio there
[20:14] <MaNI> "RTS5229 PCI Express Card Reader" - thats the SD card reader
[20:15] <kulelu88> I have a few slots here and there on this machine
[20:15] <inetpro> sorry, just had to read the backlogs 
[20:15] <kulelu88> I'm wondering if 1 of them allows me to use a simcard somewhere
[20:16] <inetpro> now am awake again 
[20:16] <Kilos> sorry inetpro  
[20:16] <inetpro> for a few minutes 
[20:16] <Kilos> go sleep sir
[20:16] <Kilos> check pm inetpro  
[20:18] <MaNI> kulelu88, try lsusb as well
[20:19] <MaNI> and see if you can figure out the function key combo to turn it on/off (fn _ on some laptops) 
[20:20] <MaNI> what laptop brand?
[20:28] <inetpro> good night everyone 
[20:28] <Kilos> night inetpro  
[20:28] <Kilos> sleep tight
[20:32] <MaNI> ideally if you are lucky you should see something like: Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0bdb:1904 Ericsson Business Mobile Networks BV F3607gw Mobile Broadband Module
[20:33] <MaNI> after toggling it on with right key combo (and assuming it isn't turned off by some buried away BIOS setting)
[20:33] <MaNI> anyway I'm off good luck
[20:33] <Kilos> night MaNI  
[20:34] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[20:46] <kulelu88> take care MaNI . if you are still here I can check quickly
[20:47] <kulelu88> yeah there's nothing there sadly 
[20:47] <kulelu88> thanks MaNI