[00:00] <limpc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10819322/
[00:01] <EriC^^> limpc: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[00:01] <EriC^^> and sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot/efi
[00:02] <limpc> error with the last one
[00:02] <limpc> mount point doesnt exist
[00:03] <EriC^^> ok
[00:03] <EriC^^> type sudo mkdir /mnt/boot/efi
[00:03] <EriC^^> and ls -l /sys/firmware/efi
[00:03] <limpc> says file exists
[00:03] <EriC^^> ok
[00:03] <EriC^^> try to mount it again
[00:04] <limpc> i mean when i tried the mkdir
[00:04] <limpc> it errored saying the file existed
[00:04] <EriC^^> oh
[00:04] <EriC^^> are you sure there's no typo in the sudo mount command?
[00:05] <limpc> guess there was. i typed it all out again and it worked.
[00:05] <EriC^^> ok
[00:05] <EriC^^> type sudo chroot /mnt
[00:05] <limpc> k. then grub-insall /dev/sda?
[00:06] <MannyLNJ> Hello. I have a problem. I have ubuntu on a lapptop with a cracked screen. there is a printer connectted to it. The laptop is shared on a windows network. It accepts pring jobs but nothing ever comes out of the printer. I need helop diagnosing the cause and resolviong them problem.
[00:06] <EriC^^> limpc: try dpkg -l | grep gparted
[00:06] <limpc> EriC^^, its listed.
[00:07] <EriC^^> ok, at the end of the installation the installer is supposed to remove it
[00:07] <EriC^^> so i guess grub isn't the last thing that happens
[00:08] <limpc> so what, im screwed?
[00:08] <EriC^^> limpc: anyways type apt-get install grub-efi-amd64-signed
[00:08] <EriC^^> and see what happens
[00:08] <limpc> it installed
[00:08] <EriC^^> no errors?
[00:09] <limpc> none
[00:09] <EriC^^> ok
[00:09] <EriC^^> well you could either remove the extra packages and hope after grub all it does is remove the extra packages
[00:09] <limpc> so obviously its not a disk problem
[00:10] <limpc> i dont have to run grub-install, update-grub?
[00:10] <EriC^^> or try to get grub to install elsewhere or something, like install in legacy mode and then convert it etc.
[00:10] <EriC^^> limpc: nah it should do that i think
[00:10] <EriC^^> you can try update-grub if you want
[00:10] <steeleven> hi ! my english is bad for moment. sorry. good morning. and i happy because killed windows 8 forubuntu :)
[00:11] <limpc> rebooting the machine. fingers crossed
[00:11] <EriC^^> ok
[00:11] <twiler> Hey EriCD!
[00:11] <EriC^^> hey twiler
[00:11] <twiler> Oops., EriC!
[00:11] <twiler> Hey there, dude!
[00:11] <limpc> w00t. looks like it worked!
[00:12] <limpc> so whats the problem? broken installer??
[00:12] <EriC^^> limpc: i dunno
[00:12] <limpc> man that was frustrating
[00:12] <twiler> I'm so sorry about earlier, dude!
[00:12] <steeleven> pfff
[00:12] <limpc> thanks so much for your help, EriC^^
[00:12] <EriC^^> twiler: for what dude
[00:13] <EriC^^> limpc: no problem
[00:13] <twiler> @EriC cause I told you I'd be back in 20 minutes, and then I didnt' show up for another hour and a half.
[00:13] <EriC^^> limpc: if you want i could diff the manifest and installer log to get the extra packages if you want to remove them
[00:14] <EriC^^> it's up to you
[00:14] <twiler> I just try to do what I say I'm gonna do today, ya know?
[00:20] <limpc> EriC^^, yea ill do that later. running the updates, need to set this up and im so behind in work ugh.
[00:21] <mudtar> I'm having problems with networking on an Ubuntu 14.04 install on my Lenovo IdeaPad Z710 (LENOVO_MT_20250). During booting, the kernel buffer reads "ideapad_laptop: timeout in write_ec_cmd", and the boot screen waits for a while for networking configuration. Upon booting, networking is unavailable, but about 5 minutes later it becomes available. Here is my dmesg output: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=v5UGHBmi ; crucial  points at about
[00:21] <mudtar>  27 seconds and 330 seconds.
[00:22] <pavlos> EriC^^, if you don't mind, how do you diff the manifest and installer log?
[00:24] <skcin7> I have a file called "dain.odt" on my computer. How come when I type "locate dain.odt" in Terminal, nothing shows up?
[00:24] <skcin7> Of course I update my db by typing "sudo updatedb" before doing this.
[00:24] <skcin7> How come the "location" program isn't finding this file?
[00:24] <skcin7> "locate"
[00:24] <daftykins> you should learn 'find' instead
[00:25] <skcin7> Is "locate" faulty?
[00:25] <daftykins> find /path -name "dain.odt"
[00:25] <millerti> I have two machines, both of which should be syncing to NTP, but they're a few minutes off from each other.  Any suggestions on how to troubleshoot this?
[00:26] <millerti> Actually both are wrong, so NTP is broken on both.
[00:26] <abc_harold> millerti: Have you tried manually syncing the time on each?
[00:26] <daftykins> date -s hh:mm
[00:26] <daftykins> ;)
[00:26] <millerti> abc_harold:  No, but I think I'd like to try got figure out why they're not just correct.
[00:27] <millerti> holy crap.  ntp isn't even installed.  It's like it got wiped out when I upgraded.
[00:27] <abc_harold> millerti: It may just be drift, computers do that over time, especially if the CMOS battery is dying
[00:27] <mudtar> skcin7, I realize this doesn't answer your original question, but here's info about locate vs find: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/60205/locate-vs-find-usage-pros-and-cons-of-each-other
[00:27] <pid1> millerti, You might have tried this already, but have you verified that the NTP servers are up and responding, and that ufw is allowing the traffic?
[00:27] <abc_harold> millerti: Try installing ntpdate and using it to sync the time
[00:28] <millerti> I think I know what's going on.  Ubuntu only syncs at boot time using ntpdate, and these systems haven't been rebooted in ages.
[00:28] <twiler> So, EriC, you got time to walk me through my openbazaar issue?
[00:28] <mudtar> skcin7, my first thought is that perhaps the file you're looking for isn't being added to the locate database when you update it. I'm not really sure how locate generates its database, but maybe it's in a blacklisted or non-whitelisted directory?
[00:28] <somsip> millerti: IIRC there is a difference between ntpd (which creeps towards the correct time) and ntpdate (which sets it once)
[00:29] <abc_harold> millerti: That might be it. You can force an update with ntpdate if you don't want to reboot.
[00:29] <skcin7> It's in my home directory /home/skcin7
[00:29] <millerti> somsip:  Well, I'd like them to generally stay correct.
[00:29] <somsip> millerti: crrep towards the corrext time with ntpd and accept it will take some time before they are both in sync. Could be very wrong on this, but sure I read it somewhere
[00:29] <somsip> !ntp
[00:29] <mudtar> skcin7, do you get any errors when you type "sudo updatedb"?
[00:30] <millerti> somsip:  You're right about that.
[00:30] <skcin7> mudtar, no I do not
[00:30] <EriC^^> twiler: yeah sure
[00:30] <EriC^^> twiler: type dpkg -l | grep -i bazaar
[00:30] <somsip> millerti: drift is the correct term, not creep :) But those links in the factoid might point you in the right direction
[00:31] <twiler> ok.
[00:31] <ArgentWarrior> Hi guys
[00:31] <ArgentWarrior> Any reason the vmware modules won't build right against 4.0?
[00:31] <mudtar> skcin7, Take a look in /etc/updatedb.conf and make sure that your home directory or any of its parent directories aren't included in PRUNEPATHS
[00:31] <millerti> Huh.  Now that ntpd is running, I get an error when I run ntpdate.
[00:32] <abc_harold> millerti: You must stop ntpd first
[00:32] <twiler> ok, I typed that
[00:32] <EriC^^> pavlos: the installer log is in /var/log/installer/initial-status.gz , and the manifest is in releases.ubuntu.com i think
[00:32] <twiler>  Nothing happens.
[00:32] <abc_harold> millerti: Two programs updating the time at once isn't normally great. xD
[00:32] <pavlos> EriC^^, good .. thx
[00:34] <millerti> Thanks for the help, everyone.
[00:34] <millerti> Also, I found this:  https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/NTP.html
[00:34] <millerti> Out of date but good enough.
[00:36] <abc_harold> millerti: Glad we could be of help :)
[00:37] <ArgentWarrior> Why does this happen?
[00:37] <ArgentWarrior> http://puu.sh/hd6Hw/9c1b6b82cc.png
[00:37] <EriC^^> pavlos: so wget http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ubuntu-14.04.2-desktop-amd64.manifest and then diff <( awk '{print$1}' ubuntu....manifest) <(gzip -dc /var/log/installer/initial-status.gz | sed -n 's/^Package: //p' | sort -u)
[00:38] <pid1> ArgentWarrior, What does /tmp/vmware-root/vmware-*.log say?
[00:39] <pid1> The output indicates that is something concerning the vbox's network configs. Your logfiles should give you enough details to debug it
[00:39] <ArgentWarrior> Could vbox be conflicting with workstation somehow?
[00:40] <EriC^^> twiler: did it return anything?
[00:40] <newbnewb> EricC are you still here?
[00:40] <EriC^^> pavlos: i think comm should be used instead of diff
[00:41] <EriC^^> so it finds the packages that are there but not in the other
[00:41] <newbnewb> I decided to download VLC so I coulc watch a movie before bed...and halfway through the download the Sotware Center shut down and now won't load again just like before
[00:41] <newbnewb> so even though people are telling me things don't just "stop working" it did
[00:41] <ArgentWarrior> http://puu.sh/hd6Zr/d9b9b6770e.log
[00:41] <ArgentWarrior> This is vmware's log
[00:42] <newbnewb> so I think its time to try a new iso yeah? How do I make sure I am getting a good one? I downloaded this one right from Ubuntu
[00:42] <EriC^^> pavlos: comm -23 bla bla
[00:42] <twiler> Hey EriC, no it didn't but, I figured out why I couldn't get it to start!
[00:43] <EriC^^> twiler: why?
[00:43] <twiler> Now, if I could just figure out how to actually LOAD A MERCHANT list, I'd be in business!
[00:43] <daftykins> newbnewb: did you even check your hard disks condition first?
[00:43] <twiler> I wasn't in the OpenBazaar directory.. :: stupid me! ::
[00:44] <newbnewb> no but they had no issues with a Mint Install....how do I check them from Ubuntu?
[00:44] <daftykins> we don't talk about Mint ;)
[00:44] <twiler> Hi, dafty!
[00:44] <daftykins> newbnewb: "sudo apt-get install smartmontools pastebinit" then "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit"
[00:45] <newbnewb> what will that do?
[00:45] <twiler> daftykins hi!!!!
[00:45] <MannyLNJ> I thought I updated my ubuntu system but when I ssh in it tells me I have the same amount of updates. Any ideas?
[00:45] <ArgentWarrior> Ubuntu > Mint because Compiz > Muffin
[00:46] <newbnewb> Reading package lists... Error! E: Read error - read (5: Input/output error) E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[00:46] <newbnewb> ouput is same error I was getting before EricC fixed it....but it suddenly stopped working again
[00:46] <EriC^^> newbnewb: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* again
[00:47] <EriC^^> that's pretty odd it keeps getting messed up
[00:47] <newbnewb> yeah...since its so weird should I just start over?
[00:47] <daftykins> i think either your install media is busted, or your hardware isn't stable
[00:47] <newbnewb> ok how do I ensure I get a good iso? Is DL direct from Ubuntu ok?
[00:47] <ArgentWarrior> Check the md5
[00:47] <newbnewb> its how I did it this time
[00:48] <twiler> Maaannnn.. I guess no one around here says A
[00:48] <twiler> hi!!
[00:48] <daftykins> they don't when they don't know who you are
[00:48] <daftykins> !ot | twiler
[00:48] <newbnewb> daftykins media you mean USB boot drive?
[00:48] <daftykins> yes the installation medium
[00:49] <newbnewb> ok so first step where is best place to get new iso
[00:49] <newbnewb> just to rule that out
[00:49] <Guest22523> Hello
[00:49] <EriC^^> releases.ubuntu.com
[00:49] <newbnewb> thanks....and how to check USB drive to make sure its not the problem?
[00:49] <newbnewb> format it?
[00:49] <ArgentWarrior> If you've abused that usb drive (by dd'ing to it a few too many times) it likely won't be bootable. Try a blank dvd or another usb disk if you can
[00:50] <newbnewb>  ok
[00:50] <Guest22523> Can someone help me find my touch pad drivers for my laptop so I can disable my touchpad mouse clicking?
[00:50] <daftykins> dd zero fill it maybe
[00:50] <newbnewb> ive not used it as a bootable before....but who knows
[00:50] <newbnewb> i dont know what DD'ing means also sorry
[00:51] <ArgentWarrior> dd if=/dev/zero bs=4096 count=your_drive's_size of=/dev/sdX
[00:51] <ArgentWarrior> *bs=1M
[00:51] <ArgentWarrior> shit
[00:51] <patrick__> Hello.  I've recently installed Lubuntu 14.10 and am trying to use wine to play Heroes of Might and Magic 3.  The installer runs successfully but the game itself crashes at the start.  Any suggestions?
[00:51] <ArgentWarrior> Been a while since I used dd for that
[00:51] <newbnewb> argent if thats to me I have no idea what you are tellling me
[00:51] <daftykins> language
[00:51] <newbnewb> im like kindergarten level here
[00:52] <daftykins> newbnewb: with a Linux OS, 'dd' is an image writing / creating app
[00:52] <ArgentWarrior> gotta start from somewhere
[00:52] <newbnewb> thanks
[00:52] <daftykins> so you can e.g. use dd to throw a .ISO onto a flash drive
[00:52] <newbnewb> the drive used hasnt been used a lot
[00:52] <newbnewb> but I will try a DVD
[00:52] <daftykins> i wouldn't bother if i were you, DVD is horribly slow and nasty to boot a live session from
[00:52] <daftykins> sometimes it won't even work
[00:53] <newbnewb> so just get a new iso and remake the bootable drive?
[00:53] <ArgentWarrior> But if his flash drive is borked it may be the only option
[00:53] <mulga> anyone give me a hand at fixing this please? When run update it fails due to lack of 'free space' because its looking at install in /boot instead of /root dir.  Ub 14.04l laptop install - I suspect when i performed a fresh install, EUFI (which was all new to me at the time) loader bullshit  is where i where i went wrong?  gparted prntscrn of partition table here > http://imgur.com/rmC38pT  - any help much appreciated
[00:53] <daftykins> newbnewb: do you have another computer or an OS other than this ubuntu with the problem?
[00:53] <daftykins> ArgentWarrior: pretty low chance of that imo
[00:53] <newbnewb> mo
[00:53] <newbnewb> no
[00:53] <newbnewb> other laptop is osx....all fine
[00:54] <daftykins> newbnewb: well you can download ubuntu to that and make up the flash drive there too
[00:54] <newbnewb> this one had Mint 13 but I didnt like it so I tried ubuntu
[00:54] <daftykins> up to you
[00:54] <newbnewb> I tried that first time and it didnt work
[00:54] <deadmund> newbnewb: Mint 13 is outdated.  They're on version 17 now.
[00:54] <newbnewb> so I made it inside mint and then installed unbuntu
[00:54] <deadmund> I think 18 will come out soon after Ubuntu 15.04
[00:55] <newbnewb> it all seemed fine at first....then just like now software center died
[00:55] <newbnewb> i just want to get functioning ubuntu on here
[00:55] <daftykins> i'd probably memtest that machine then check the hard disk health as i suggested
[00:55] <newbnewb> ok how to memtest and check hard disks?
[00:55] <daftykins> !memtest
[00:55] <daftykins> damn.
[00:55] <daftykins> i already gave the commands for checking the hard disk
[00:56] <newbnewb> type "!memtest" in terminal?
[00:56] <daftykins> nah ignore that
[00:56] <newbnewb> ok sorry I am old, slow and tired.....can you tell me exactly what to type to do memtest?
[00:57] <daftykins> it's not a thing to type, it's also a bootable ISO to download and run - or it's also a boot menu option on the ubuntu disc
[00:57] <ArgentWarrior> When it shows that first purple screen, interrupt it by hitting an arrow key. Select your language and hit the memory test
[00:57] <daftykins> 'test memory' beneath 'try ubuntu' and 'install ubuntu'
[00:57] <newbnewb> when booting from USB or from HDD installation?
[00:57] <ArgentWarrior> USB
[00:57] <newbnewb> ok
[00:57] <newbnewb> thanks
[00:57] <ArgentWarrior> No prob mate
[00:58] <daftykins> but memtest can take hours - you want to do 2 passes at least
[00:58] <Patero-ng> I loaded the latest ubuntu ver from a usb drive and it crashed while on desktop and while I was trying to search for an app that makes me not want to use ubuntu again if is gonna be that unstable
[00:58] <newbnewb> oh
[00:58] <newbnewb> shit
[00:58] <daftykins> easy on the language in here
[00:58] <newbnewb> and how do I check disks again?
[00:58] <daftykins> newbnewb: this is what it looks like - http://zapp4.staticworld.net/downloads/graphics/screenshots/199606f.jpg
[00:58] <newbnewb> i cant find your directions sorry
[00:58] <daftykins> i already typed that earlier.
[00:59] <ArgentWarrior> Patero-ng: Don't let an unstable live media put you off. It's stable once it's actually on there
[00:59] <daftykins> i'm heading off now, laters
[00:59] <newbnewb> i dont know which one it is can you tell me again please?
[00:59] <daftykins> no sorry.
[00:59] <Patero-ng> ArgentWarrior bro
[00:59] <newbnewb> why not?
[00:59] <Patero-ng> I like ubuntu 10.04
[00:59] <ArgentWarrior> There should be a memory test option in the usb disk's menu
[00:59] <ArgentWarrior> Your bios should also have a memory tester
[01:00] <newbnewb> thanks argent..will check that
[01:00] <Patero-ng> I have a bios savior for older bios
[01:00] <ArgentWarrior> Patero-ng: 10.04 is waaay out of support though
[01:00] <newbnewb> EricC there?
[01:00] <Patero-ng> ArgentWarrior it was my little baby
[01:01] <EriC^^> newbnewb: yeah
[01:01] <Patero-ng> I also like silent hill one
[01:01] <MannyLNJ> Herlp. I edited hostname to change the name of my system now SUDO keeps saying it can't resolve the host
[01:01] <ArgentWarrior> Patero-ng: Install a current Ubuntu, then install gnome-panel. Instant nostalgia desktop
[01:01] <newbnewb> EricC I am going to get a new iso...do a mem test....and if you can tell me how check my HDD....dafty said how but I dont know which esactly he meant and for some reason he will not repeat it
[01:01] <newbnewb> does that plan sound good?
[01:02] <Patero-ng> ArgentWarrior good idea
[01:02] <EriC^^> newbnewb: sounds good, do the hdd test, memtest then get iso
[01:03] <newbnewb> ok...how do I do the HDD test?
[01:03] <newbnewb> is it a command or in some start up option?
[01:03] <ArgentWarrior> ^_^
[01:04] <EriC^^> newbnewb: scroll up
[01:05] <EriC^^> hit pageup
[01:06] <newbnewb> EricC that didnt work
[01:06] <newbnewb> it returns the errors like before you fixed it
[01:06] <newbnewb> Reading package lists... Error! E: Read error - read (5: Input/output error) E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[01:06] <EriC^^> type sudo apt-get update
[01:06] <EriC^^> did you type the sudo rm command?
[01:07] <newbnewb> no
[01:07] <EriC^^> type that, then sudo apt-get update
[01:07] <newbnewb> i dont know which sudo rm command you mean
[01:08] <newbnewb> i was trying to do the two commands dafty said to check HDD
[01:09] <galah00> Hello. I have a problem with Ubuntu 14.04 x64 installation. I am trying to install from a live USB made for GPT partition with Rufus under Windows 8.1. After clicking next in the install section the installer does not go forward to the part where I choose the partitions. It just stalls.  I have ensured the file is perfect . I suspect there is somet
[01:09] <galah00> hing wrong with my PC :S
[01:09] <newbnewb> rm: cannot remove ‘/var/lib/apt/lists/partial’: Is a directory rm: cannot remove ‘again’: No such file or directory
[01:09] <newbnewb> same nonsense like before
[01:09] <newbnewb> nothing working as should
[01:11] <ArgentWarrior> shit
[01:12] <ArgentWarrior> Oops wrong window
[01:12] <ArgentWarrior> Empathy and hexchat side by side = not good
[01:13] <deadmund> ArgentWarrior: What did you say in empathy? "Hey can anybody help me with my Ubuntu / Win 7 Dual Boot Wifi Graphics Card Drivers?!?!"
[01:13] <ArgentWarrior> Lol
[01:14] <newbnewb> i need to start over
[01:14] <newbnewb> but cant seem to do that even
[01:16] <EriC^^> newbnewb: did you type sudo apt-get update?
[01:16] <newbnewb> yes and i pasted the error output
[01:17] <EriC^^> you pasted that earlier before the sudo rm command..
[01:17] <EriC^^> did you run it after the sudo rm command?
[01:17] <newbnewb> oh....no
[01:17] <newbnewb> the rm command didnt work either
[01:17] <newbnewb> so I didnt know what to do next
[01:17] <EriC^^> it did
[01:17] <MannyLNJ> I need help with airprint to a printer on Ubuntu 14.04 running CUPS
[01:17] <newbnewb> oh....it said no such file etc so I thought it failed
[01:18] <newbnewb> ok trying apt-get
[01:18] <EriC^^> it can't delete the partial dir, but that's ok
[01:18] <newbnewb> can I ask what is the point of updating again though if it lasted about 30min last time?
[01:18] <EriC^^> newbnewb: that's just the list of packages
[01:19] <EriC^^> should take a minute or so
[01:19] <newbnewb> i meant when we did this before....and all seemed fixed....it just suddenly stopped working again
[01:19] <newbnewb> so this doesnt seem like a permanent fix
[01:20] <newbnewb> or are you doing this to make it work long enough to get the disk checking tools?
[01:20] <Joseph-> Hi, I'm trying to connect to remote server via ssh but I can choose a specific tty when I logon?
[01:21] <EriC^^> well something is odd, you didn't even have the software-properties-gtk installed to select the repositories, i dont know
[01:21] <newbnewb> and software manager worked after you fixed it....for 30min or so then quit again
[01:21] <EriC^^> newbnewb: check the disks and memtest as daftykins said
[01:21] <newbnewb> thats strange eh?
[01:22] <newbnewb> well I tried and his command came back with that parsing error stuff
[01:22] <EriC^^> did you try it after sudo apt-get update?
[01:22] <newbnewb> i'll try again
[01:22] <newbnewb> yeah
[01:22] <newbnewb> i mean the last attempt...the one we just did has just finished
[01:22] <newbnewb> so I will try again
[01:23] <newbnewb> ok installing smartools now
[01:23] <Joseph-> Hi, I'm trying to connect to remote server via ssh but I can choose a specific tty when I logon?
[01:27] <newbnewb> Eric I did the two commands dafty gave for HD check
[01:27] <newbnewb> check
[01:27] <newbnewb> what do I do now?
[01:27] <newbnewb> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10819664/
[01:28] <newbnewb> this link came from second command
[01:28] <EriC^^> ok
[01:28] <newbnewb> ah thats bad eh? lots of prefail and old age ratings
[01:29] <EriC^^> i've no idea about that stuff
[01:29] <newbnewb> ok
[01:29] <newbnewb> it does say overall health passed
[01:29] <EriC^^> if daftykins mentions the titanic or something then it's bad
[01:29] <EriC^^> :D
[01:29] <newbnewb> daftykins does that link of my hdd answer anything?
[01:29] <newbnewb> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10819664/
[01:29] <notlennart> newbnewb: how old is the drive?
[01:30] <newbnewb> notlennart not sure...its a handmedown...likely from 2008ish
[01:30] <newbnewb> it was running Mint 13 ok
[01:30] <notlennart> newbnewb: then i would take heed of those results
[01:31] <newbnewb> so saying passed doesnt mean much since it says prefail a lot?
[01:32] <notlennart> newbnewb: prefail means high chance of failure
[01:32] <Joseph-> /dev/pts/3 at the moment, I want to connect again but using diff. tty like 9 or something.
[01:32] <newbnewb> would that also explain why I have had so many problems with this installation?
[01:32] <notlennart> newbnewb: and on a drive approx 7 years old then its probably an accurate assessment
[01:33] <newbnewb> ok thanks.....its been really weird and even fixes aren't sticking
[01:33] <newbnewb> guess I need a new drive
[01:33] <newbnewb> maybe not worth with this old laptop though
[01:33] <pavlos> newbnewb, lines 105, 122, etc show errors on power-on ... better get another drive
[01:33] <notlennart> newbnewb: not to say that the drive may not fail for another year or two but it could be today or tomorrow
[01:34] <EriC^^> Joseph-: why?
[01:34] <newbnewb> thanks guys
[01:34] <notlennart> newbnewb: is it sata or ide?
[01:34] <newbnewb> dont know have to look in settings
[01:35] <newbnewb> sorry dont know how to find it in ubuntu settings
[01:35] <newbnewb> anyway it sounds like its not long for the world
[01:35] <pavlos> newbnewb, using the drive model, HTS541612J9SA00, google it .. it is a SATA
[01:36] <newbnewb> dont think the cost of a new HD is worth it in this old thing....maybe better off with a used but newer laptop?
[01:37] <austneal> I'm trying to connect to a bluetooth stereo. When I try to connect, the stereo says its connected for a split second, then immediately disconnects.... any thoughts?
[01:37] <austneal> (it connects ok in windows)
[01:37] <newbnewb> what would a cheap laptop be that would be good for ubuntu?
[01:38] <pavlos> newbnewb, get an SSD 60GB for about $40
[01:38] <newbnewb> i'll look at them thanks
[01:38] <baxx> test
[01:38] <austneal> newbnewb: are you looking for a laptop or a disk drive?
[01:38] <notlennart> pavlos: probably not worth getting ssd on an old laptop
[01:39] <newbnewb> well this laptop is really old and falling apart
[01:39] <Patero-ng> you guys are weird
[01:39] <baxx> hi - is it obvious to anyone why this script only  copies dotfiles? http://paste.ubuntu.com/10819708/
[01:39] <newbnewb> so prob shoulod just look foir a replacement for it rather than upgrade the HDD
[01:39] <newbnewb> since the HDD is dying it seems
[01:39] <newbnewb> and has sullied my ubuntu beginning experience
[01:40] <austneal> I'm trying to connect to a bluetooth stereo. When I try to connect, the stereo says its connected for a split second, then immediately disconnects.... any thoughts?
[01:40] <GeekMan1222> is there any procautions i should take when running apt-get upgrade on a dedicated ubuntu server file server
[01:40] <notlennart> newbnewb: if youre happy with the lapatop apart from the hard drive then just replace hard drive but 7 years for a laptop is pushing it towards eol
[01:40] <newbnewb> yeah....id rather not invest more in it I think
[01:40] <GeekMan1222> i know in practice you should always set machines to not auto upgrade and to test them on a test machine but i dont have the luxury to do so
[01:40] <newbnewb> rather get somehting used with some more lifespan
[01:40] <EriC^^> baxx: aren't destination and source in reverse?
[01:41] <newbnewb> but not sure what is good
[01:41] <jchodyniecki> Quick question for anyone who can help. I downloaded snappy. I tried it on ESXi, Virtual Box, and Vagrant, but the default ubuntu/ubuntu user/pw is not working. any ideas?
[01:41] <austneal> newbnewb: can I pm?
[01:41] <newbnewb> of course
[01:42] <EriC^^> it's rsync <source> <destination> baxx
[01:42] <baxx> EriC^^: arghhh
[01:42] <baxx> i tested i tested i tested i failled
[01:42] <notlennart> newbnewb: a general ruleof thumb for ubuntu install is anything up to 5 years old
[01:43] <GeekMan1222> i just recently setup and rsync baxx
[01:43] <newbnewb> thanks
[01:43] <nrml1> anyone know why this would happen?: /etc/cron.daily/apt-mirror: 7: /etc/cron.daily/apt-mirror: 0: not found
[01:43] <baxx> GeekMan1222: you get it the right way around?
[01:43] <GeekMan1222> what are you trying to do
[01:43] <GeekMan1222> yes i did finally
[01:43] <GeekMan1222> its source then destination
[01:43] <GeekMan1222> xD
[01:43] <baxx> I tested before loads and just borked it up
[01:44] <baxx> on the run that mattered
[01:44] <baxx> GeekMan1222: EriC^^ I don't appear to have lost anything though...?
[01:44] <baxx> at least it wasn't dd :D
[01:44] <EriC^^> baxx: yeah if /mnt was empty it would just overwrite stuff
[01:45] <GeekMan1222> im doing it over ssh so i have to use the options -av --delete --progress "-e ssh" /source/dir user@ip:/destination/dir
[01:45] <jchodyniecki> default user/pass for snappy for ovf image?
[01:45] <GeekMan1222> what options are you using baxx
[01:45] <EriC^^> *it wouldn't overwrite stuff
[01:46] <baxx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10819708/
[01:46] <baxx> that was the failed script GeekMan1222
[01:46] <GeekMan1222> baxx: i put quotes around the e option cause thats the option i used for ssh . ill take a look at yours now
[01:46] <baxx> I'm just backing up ~/ at the mo
[01:46] <Guest22523> Can anyone recommend a lightweight linux distro? Just looking for opinions. Have a laptop with 1gig of ram, and a shitty cpu lol
[01:47] <baxx> Guest22523: I used an exclude file
[01:47] <PHPLearner> What of clean up commands shall I make in the terminal after I do sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:47] <PHPLearner> sort of
[01:47] <ArgentWarrior> sudo apt-get clean
[01:47] <ceibal> hola
[01:47] <PHPLearner> My objective is to make sure no files are duplicated and installation files that are no longer needed are deleted in the system
[01:48] <baxx> ArgentWarrior: i thought that it cleaned after itself, learnt something today (else!)
[01:48] <ArgentWarrior> :D
[01:48] <PHPLearner> really only sudo apt-get clean
[01:48] <ArgentWarrior> yep
[01:48] <PHPLearner> how come when I do that terminal responds nothing
[01:49] <mjollnerd> Guest22523: Try out lubuntu.
[01:49] <EriC^^> PHPLearner: and sudo apt-get autoremove if you want
[01:49] <PHPLearner> it just accepts the command but no reply messages
[01:49] <GeekMan1222> hmm im not sure baxx
[01:49] <GeekMan1222> have you tested the rsync command before you made the script
[01:49] <EriC^^> PHPLearner: it'll remove packages that aren't needed anymore
[01:50] <PHPLearner> oh ok
[01:50] <GeekMan1222> just to make sure you pointing things in the right place and using the right options how you want them to work
[01:50] <PHPLearner> thanks
[01:50] <GeekMan1222> baxx
[01:50] <EriC^^> ( uninstall them )
[01:50] <PHPLearner> but what does sudo apt-get purge does
[01:51] <baxx> GeekMan1222: yeah
[01:51] <baxx> sorry I was just having a gander at rsync options
[01:51] <ArgentWarrior> purge removes config files as well as the package
[01:52] <ArgentWarrior> Use it if you want something gone for good
[01:52] <baxx> GeekMan1222: I did on a demo folder
[01:52] <GeekMan1222> did it work without the fancy scripting?
[01:52] <baxx> GeekMan1222: what fancy scripting?
[01:52] <GeekMan1222> if it didnt i would have a play around with the rsync options and such
[01:53] <GeekMan1222> just in general does the command your making a script for work with out using it in a bash
[01:53] <GeekMan1222> or rather a bash script
[01:53] <baxx> It worked fine in the demo folder that I was using it with... oh right, if I run it from CLI directly
[01:53] <GeekMan1222> yes
[01:53] <baxx> I'd have thought so , i didn't test that
[01:54] <GeekMan1222> im a man that generally likes to double check things i know that sounds silly but maybe your running it wrong or the options your using now arent working the way you intend
[01:54] <baxx> i think i need to add -p for permissions, -E for executability to the script
[01:54] <GeekMan1222> oh yes prolly
[01:54] <GeekMan1222> also
[01:54] <baxx> GeekMan1222: Oh i got the source and destination mized up before :P
[01:55] <GeekMan1222> i think you can check for bash script errors using bash -x /script.sh
[01:55] <austneal> I'm trying to connect to a bluetooth stereo. When I try to connect, the stereo says its connected for a split second, then immediately disconnects.... any thoughts?
[01:55] <GeekMan1222> haha
[01:55] <GeekMan1222> yep i did that
[01:55] <baxx> GeekMan1222: oh wow, that's neat if so
[01:55] <GeekMan1222> i was really confused
[01:56] <GeekMan1222> http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/sect_02_03.html
[01:56] <GeekMan1222> baxx yes if you use -x option you can debug
[01:56] <GeekMan1222> i used to bash script ALOT
[01:56] <baxx> GeekMan1222: yeah ha, I had different versions in the script to test different parts, and must have muddled them
[01:56] <GeekMan1222> it comes in handy it will tell you what line its stopping on for an error
[01:56] <GeekMan1222> and what the argument it
[01:57] <GeekMan1222> *is
[01:57] <baxx> thats cool - theres one to dry run as well that I forgot about
[01:57] <mulga> anyone give me a hand at fixing this please? When run update it fails due to lack of 'free space' because its looking at install in /boot instead of /root dir.  Ub 14.04l laptop install - I suspect when i performed a fresh install, EUFI (which was all new to me at the time) loader bs is where i where i went wrong?  gparted prntscrn of partition table here > http://imgur.com/rmC38pT.png  - any help much appreciated
[01:58] <baxx> I'm not sure if there is actually, or if thats command related rather than bash
[01:59] <austneal> I'm trying to connect to a bluetooth stereo. When I try to connect, the stereo says its connected for a split second, then immediately disconnects.... any thoughts?
[02:00] <austneal> I miss my music D:
[02:03] <austneal> I'm trying to connect to a bluetooth stereo. When I try to connect, the stereo says its connected for a split second, then immediately disconnects.... any thoughts?
[02:04] <siwica> Is there a function (2 arguments) that concatenates two lists?
[02:04] <siwica> (not concat :: [[a]] -> [a])
[02:05] <rgb-one> siwica: wrong channel, check #haskell
[02:06] <siwica> argh...
[02:06] <rgb-one> siwica: you can check hoogle for functions.
[02:07] <rgb-one> siwica: but yea #haskell is the right place
[02:07] <austneal> rgb-one: You woudlnt happen to know anything about audio stuffs, would you? :/
[02:08] <Patero-ng> me gusta el
[02:08] <rgb-one> austneal: Whats the problem?
[02:08] <austneal> I'm trying to connect to a bluetooth stereo. When I try to connect, the stereo says its connected for a split second, then immediately disconnects
[02:09] <austneal> I've googled around, and I can't find a darn thing
[02:09] <Patero-ng> use startpage.com
[02:11] <rgb-one> austneal: does it try to reconnect after it disconnects?
[02:11] <austneal> nope
[02:12] <rgb-one> austneal: Are you sure you are within range of the stereo?
[02:12] <austneal> I'm 2 feet away
[02:13] <austneal> So, I'm pretty sure :/
[02:15] <austneal> rgb-one: when I try to connect through bluetooth manager, it says "Connection Failed: Stream setup failed"
[02:16] <austneal> rgb-one: I can connect my phone to it just fine, and can also connect to it with the PC when I'm in windows
[02:20] <rgb-one> austneal: sorry about that. I got disconnected
[02:20] <austneal> No problem :P
[02:20] <austneal> rgb-one: when I try to connect through bluetooth manager, it says "Connection Failed: Stream setup failed"
[02:22] <rgb-one> austneal: so your objective is to play audio through this device right?
[02:22] <austneal> Correct
[02:22] <rgb-one> austneal: Navigate to System Settings->Sound then where you see Play sound through, look for your device and select it.
[02:23] <austneal> rgb-one: The device isnt listed there
[02:24] <austneal> I can't connect to it... not sure why it would be listed there
[02:25] <austneal> rgb-one: If you can fix it, you'll be my hero xD
[02:26] <jmif> hey all, curl is failing to verify an ssl cert that works in chrome.  we've tried to update the apt ca-certificates package but it seems that the new cert that was updated (about 7 days ago) isn't released there yet.  we've also tried downloading http://curl.haxx.se/ca/cacert.pem, dropping it in /usr/local/share/ca-certificates and running update-ca-certificates.  Curl still can't verify SSL, however if we point curl at the file we download, it veri
[02:26] <jmif> fies ssl just fine.  This leads me to believe we're install the CA certs wrong.
[02:27] <jmif> We're 1) wondering why this doesn't work, but more importantly we're hoping someone in the ubuntu community here has a method for manage SSL cert updates on ubuntu server that has worked well for them?
[02:29] <austneal> rgb-one: Still there?
[02:29] <rgb-one> austneal: yea
[02:31] <baxx> I love it when you're trying to sort some stuff out then suddenly it's 03:30
[02:32] <amnesiak> or 72 hours later
[02:32] <baxx> amnesiak: I've not gone that far yet!
[02:33] <baxx> I'm not sure if your irc-name is literal or not
[02:33] <rgb-one> austneal: give this a try: sudo apt-get install pulseaudio-module-bluetooth
[02:33] <austneal> rgb-one: rgr, one sec
[02:34] <austneal> rgb-one: pulseaudio-module-bluetooth is already the newest version.
[02:34] <rcatorres> hola, alguien sabe de configuracion dns?
[02:34] <aeon-ltd> !es
[02:36] <rgb-one> austneal: pactl load-module module-bluetooth-discover
[02:36] <austneal> rgb-one: It just said "20" when I ran that... lemme test
[02:37] <austneal> rgb-one: Still just disconnects
[02:38] <rgb-one> austneal: what blutooth software have you installed?
[02:38] <austneal> Um... I have "Bluetooth Manager"
[02:38] <YeahToastIT> what is the off topic chan
[02:39] <austneal> rgb-one: That's all I know of... Its just an interface for whatever ubuntu came with
[02:40] <rgb-one> austneal: reopen the Sound setting from System Settings
[02:40] <rgb-one> austneal: Do you see the device now?
[02:40] <austneal> rgb-one: No... still not there
[02:42] <rgb-one> austneal: Alright, I will ask you to perform a commandline task that requires administative privileges.
[02:42] <austneal> rgb-one: can do
[02:43] <YeahToastIT> Can I allow browser plugins to update for non ladmin domain users through IE gpo?
[02:43] <rgb-one> austneal: Ok, open the file /etc/bluetooth/audio.conf in a text editor.
[02:43] <jmadero> hi all. I'm trying to remotely help my father in law install Ubuntu onto a flash and he's hitting a blank screen with a blinking cursor
[02:44] <jmadero> what he did was put the live boot on a 4 gig flash, then he installed to another flash drive
[02:44] <austneal> rgb-one: got it
[02:44] <jmadero> live works no problem
[02:44] <jmadero> when he tries to boot from the flash drive that he installed to, he gets the blank screen with blinking cursor
[02:44] <rgb-one> austneal: In the file below the [General] section, add: Enable=Socket
[02:45] <austneal> rgb-one: Its already there :/
[02:45] <rgb-one> austneal: haha
[02:45] <rgb-one> austneal: interesting
[02:45] <austneal> Not commented out or anthing >.<
[02:45] <pavlos> rgb-one, in another link I saw the line Enable=Source
[02:46] <rgb-one> austneal: You can give what pavlos posted a try
[02:47] <austneal> Ok, got that added. Do I need to restart a service or anything?
[02:47] <pavlos> rgb-one, then restart the bluetooth service
[02:47] <austneal> pavlos: what is the bluetooth service? :/
[02:49] <pavlos> austneal, /etc/init.d/bluetooth
[02:49] <austneal> pavlos: bash: /etc/inid.d/bluetooth: No such file or directory
[02:50] <austneal> derp... inid lol
[02:50] <pavlos> austneal, there should be a bunch of files in /etc/init.d/
[02:51] <austneal> pavlos: I see them...
[02:51] <rgb-one> austneal: append a restart to the end of the command
[02:51] <austneal> pavlos: Ok, restarted it
[02:52] <austneal> pavlos: Still immediately disconnects
[02:52] <pavlos> austneal, it was worth a try ...
[02:52] <austneal> rgb-one: still not connecting >.<
[02:52] <rgb-one> austneal: Ok revert to the previous settings (Enable=Socket) and restart again
[02:53] <rgb-one> austneal: but before you do run the pactl command I gave earlier
[02:53] <rgb-one> austneal: pactl load-module module-bluetooth-discover
[02:54] <austneal> rgb-one: Failure: Module initialization failed
[02:55] <austneal> tried with sudo as well, didnt work either :/
[03:13] <rgb-one> austneal: give it a try if you haven't already
[03:13] <austneal> havent... lemme try
[03:14] <rgb-one> austneal: Try rebooting when you are finished.
[03:17] <austneal> rgb-one: still didnt fix it :/
[03:17] <austneal> rgb-one: Running out of options, I feel x_x
[03:18] <Te3-BloodyIron> I'm trying to write my own init script, and I'm stuck with this part
[03:18] <Te3-BloodyIron> PID=`su -p -c "$DAEMON_PATH/$SCRIPT" $RUNAS & echo $!`
[03:18] <Te3-BloodyIron> this starts the process but stops processing the rest of the init script
[03:18] <Te3-BloodyIron> what am I doing wrong?
[03:19] <austneal> rgb-one: I appreciate the help, btw
[03:19] <rgb-one> austneal: Glad to help :)
[03:20] <Te3-BloodyIron> should I do "&& echo$!
[03:20] <Te3-BloodyIron> or just one &?
[03:21] <rgb-one> Te3-BloodyIron: try double and if it is an and statement you want to perform
[03:21] <rgb-one> Te3-BloodyIron: try && if it is an and statement you want to perform
[03:21] <Te3-BloodyIron> well I'm trying to get the PID from the new process and echo it to a pidfile
[03:22] <Te3-BloodyIron> but I'll try the double &
[03:22] <austneal> rgb-one: Any more ideas? :/
[03:23] <rgb-one> austneal: maybe it has something to do with the driver for that specific bluetooth device driver
[03:26] <nemanja> hi, trying to use files for accessing remote box with following ssh://user@ip-address:5222 but getting the error unvalid network location
[03:30] <nemanja> I'm able to access given host with ssh ip-address -p5222 but thats not what I need - I'd like to mount iso file on remote box locally via ssh
[03:34] <nirokato> May I have a suggestion where I can start delving into how Ubuntu accomplishes persistence for a live USB? I've already got it working, I want to learn `how` it does it now. Any reading suggestions?
[03:37] <gunndawg> Hello. I installed super-boot-manager to see about tweaking my plymouth display, grub, etc. I decided I didnt like it and removed it with a purge. Now when I do an autoremove or apt-get upgrade I get errors regarding "burg" files not being able to be accessed or deleted
[03:38] <gunndawg> its trying to remove a burg theme and errors out
[03:43] <rgb-one> !persistense
[03:43] <rgb-one> !persistence
[03:45] <Joseph222> Hello everyone.
[03:45] <rgb-one> nirokato: If you want reading material on the how to of persistence you can check the Archlinux wiki
[03:45] <gzcwnk> I am trying to install drdb8-utils in 14.04 and it doesnt seem to be there...how do I find it and install it?
[03:45] <Joseph222> I'm currently using Ubuntu 14.04 on my laptop, and when I close the laptop lid off and then re-open, this error is being shown: http://i.imgur.com/pPtVAyG.jpg
[03:46] <Joseph222> Any idea what that that is and how to solve it? I'm required to restart the laptop every time this happens and it's super annoying.
[03:47] <rgb-one> gzcwnk: apt-cache search drbd8-utils
[03:48] <rgb-one> gzcwnk: you misspelled it
[03:48] <gunndawg> sudo aptitude remove burg
[03:48] <gunndawg> can that work?
[03:48] <gzcwnk> oops, LOL, ta
[03:49] <rgb-one> gunndawg: reinstall grub
[03:49] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
[03:49] <nirokato> gunndawg: you might try: sudo apt-get remove --purge burg
[03:49]  * valleycat can't connect to her university housing wifi :s
[03:49] <gunndawg> nirokato: tried that also
[03:49] <CountryfiedLinux> Software Center isn't behaving. Pastebinning the output now.
[03:49] <nirokato> gunndawg: aw, gocha
[03:50] <gunndawg> rgb-one: What's the easiest way to reinstall grub?
[03:50] <CountryfiedLinux> http://pastebin.com/7spB2gPM
[03:50] <CountryfiedLinux> For some reason Software Center won't open with my theme.
[03:51] <nirokato> gunndawg: I've used this in the past, http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[03:51] <gunndawg> nirokato: used what?
[03:51] <gunndawg> ah ok
[03:51] <gunndawg> nirokato: so this burg error I'm getting is related to grub?
[03:51] <gzcwnk> valleycat do you have to sign in?
[03:52] <nirokato> This will ensure that you have an unbroken bootloader, then you can go through and manually purge burg
[03:52] <valleycat> yeah, it won't sign in, though
[03:52] <gzcwnk> valleycat do you get an IP off teh wifi?
[03:53]  * valleycat is an idiot and has no clue what that means
[03:54] <gzcwnk> valleycat how do you sign in with a web browser?
[03:54] <valleycat> oh, no
[03:55] <gzcwnk> valleycay can you open an xterm?
[03:55] <nirokato> gunndawg: ^^ You should revert back to vanilla grub first, then you can go through and manually purge the old burg files
[03:55]  * valleycat nods
[03:55] <gunndawg> nirokato: not exactly sure how to do that
[03:55] <gzcwnk> type in ifconfig
[03:56] <gzcwnk> does inet addr: for eth0 have an IP address?
[03:56] <shadaloo> hi
[03:56] <nirokato> rgb-one: thanks for the tip on the persistence, I'll take a look into the Archlinux wiki
[03:56] <shadaloo> i just got a bluetooth adapter and when I open bluetooth settings it says "no bluetooth adapters found"
[03:56] <nirokato> gunndawg: Do you have the install media for Ubuntu available (CD/DVD/LiveUSB)?
[03:57] <shadaloo> however, my iphone detects the bluetooth device
[03:57] <gunndawg> yeah
[03:57] <valleycat> UP?
[03:57] <valleycat> oh, inet address
[03:58] <valleycat> same thing?
[03:58] <gzcwnk> did your uni ppl give u no instructions? usually you use a web browser to sign in then you get wifi
[03:58] <valleycat> it doesn't have any for linux/ubuntu
[03:59] <shadaloo> valleycat:
[03:59] <shadaloo> you probably need to add your mac address somewhere
[03:59] <gzcwnk> so for windows what do you do?
[03:59] <shadaloo> so your school network can recognize you
[03:59] <nirokato> gunndawg: the link I posted earlier will instruct you on how to repair your GRUB2 installation for Ubuntu which will overwrite the super-boot-manager 'burg' files (which is 'grub' backwards). Once that's done you can go through the `burg` files and delete them manually as they are no longer needed since GRUB has been installed as your default bootloader.
[03:59] <valleycat> and https://uits.kennesaw.edu/docs/netaccess/guides/ubuntu10_wifi_instructions.pdf doesn't work
[04:00] <gunndawg> nirokato: makes sense. Thanks a bunch!
[04:00] <valleycat> which is the instructions for the campus wifi
[04:01] <gunndawg> nirokato: Will those same instructions work for Kubuntu? I may reinstall it on another system as swell that has Kubuntu
[04:01] <gzcwnk> well that is ubuntu so u should be OK....when you click on the wifi icon you get no networks come up?
[04:02] <nirokato> gunndawg: yep, it'll work for Kubuntu as well
[04:02] <shadaloo> i just got a bluetooth adapter and when I open bluetooth settings it says "no bluetooth adapters found"
[04:02] <shadaloo> however, my iphone detects the bluetooth device
[04:02] <shadaloo> any ideas?
[04:03]  * valleycat nods
[04:03] <wfio> Anyone running a Dell XPS 13?
[04:04] <gzcwnk> valleygirl so when you click on ksu u cant continue?
[04:04] <gzcwnk> ok, nm
[04:04] <gzcwnk> i see what u say
[04:04] <gzcwnk> valleygirl have u used your laptop elsewhere with wifi?
[04:05] <valleycat> yeah
[04:05] <valleycat> was working fine when I was at home
[04:05] <valleycat> but when I got here it wouldn't connect
[04:05] <gzcwnk> om, does it look like your laptop is still trying to conenct to home maybe?
[04:06] <gzcwnk> you might have to disconnect from home
[04:06] <valleycat> nope
[04:06] <gzcwnk> k.
[04:06] <gzcwnk> kind of stumped....
[04:06] <valleycat> it just keeps asking for the password
[04:07] <valleycat> and not working
[04:07] <tnkhanh> hi all
[04:07] <shadaloo> valleycat:
[04:07] <valleycat> hii
[04:07] <shadaloo> as i already said
[04:07] <gzcwnk> they gave you an acocunt and password?
[04:07] <shadaloo> you probably need to log into your school's IT site
[04:07] <shadaloo> and find where to add your MAC address
[04:07] <shadaloo> to the network
[04:07] <shadaloo> otherwise you won't associate
[04:08] <gzcwnk> shadaloo the howto doesnt say that....
[04:08] <shadaloo> valleycat:
[04:08] <shadaloo> just call them tomorrow then
[04:08]  * valleycat nods
[04:08] <valleycat> this is also new
[04:08] <valleycat> dorm wifi
[04:09] <gzcwnk> dorms....shudder...
[04:09] <valleycat> well, on campus housing
[04:09] <valleycat> they're apartments
[04:09] <gzcwnk> ah, better
[04:10] <gzcwnk> I dormed once, so much noise no sleep
[04:10] <valleycat> so much better
[04:10] <valleycat> oh, our ac is so loud I can't hear anything
[04:10] <gzcwnk> bummer
[04:11] <valleycat> eh, it blocks out things I wouldn't want to hear
[04:11] <mothership> Mexicans are scum.
[04:11] <valleycat> ...?
[04:12]  * mothership shits
[04:12] <valleycat> alrighty then
[04:12] <valleycat> good to know
[04:12] <gzcwnk> lol, oh dear
[04:13] <valleycat> gzcwnk: thanks
[04:13] <valleycat> ethernet works, at least
[04:13] <gzcwnk> sorry i couldnet help more
[04:13] <mothership> know your dope-fiend. his knuckles will be white from inner-tension, and his pants will be crusted with semen from constantly jacking off when he can't find a rape victim.
[04:13] <gzcwnk> im setting up packet fence which makes it easy for users
[04:13] <mothership> The dope fiend will attack with any weapon at his command, including yours.
[04:15] <mothership> Q: How is a Mexican like a cue-ball? A: The harder you hit them, the more English you get out of them.
[04:16] <valleycat> ........
[04:16] <valleycat> wtf was that
[04:16] <gzcwnk> dunno, a drug adict I guess
[04:16] <gzcwnk> gtg, bye
[04:16] <valleycat> byes
[04:21] <shadaloo> i just got a bluetooth adapter and when I open bluetooth settings it says "no bluetooth adapters found"
[04:21] <shadaloo> however, my iphone detects the bluetooth device
[04:21] <shadaloo> any ideas?
[04:25] <gr33n7007h> shadaloo: pastebin some info namely: "rfkill list", "hciconfig -a"
[04:25] <shadaloo> gr33n7007h: on it
[04:25] <shadaloo> gr33n7007h: both of those return nothing
[04:26] <gr33n7007h> shadaloo: they shouldn't just return nothing
[04:26] <gr33n7007h> try with sudo
[04:27] <shadaloo> nope
[04:27] <shadaloo> nothing
[04:27] <gr33n7007h> what OS
[04:28] <shadaloo> 15.04
[04:28] <shadaloo> lsusb doesn't even detect anything
[04:28] <gr33n7007h> unplug the bluetooth adapter
[04:28] <shadaloo> ok
[04:28] <shadaloo> both linux and windows do not detect anything
[04:28] <shadaloo> that's what i get for buying from china :(
[04:28] <shadaloo> $4 dongle from newegg.om
[04:29] <gr33n7007h> shadaloo: open up a terminal and type: tail -f /var/log/syslog then plug back in a pastebin the output
[04:29] <gr33n7007h> if any
[04:30] <shadaloo> http://pastebin.com/0z2ke1wJ
[04:32] <gr33n7007h> hmm, nothing
[04:33] <gr33n7007h> shadaloo: I think thats ready for the knackered yard
[04:35] <shadaloo> gr33n7007h:
[04:35] <shadaloo> what is that
[04:36] <gr33n7007h> shadaloo: where things are laid to rest ;)
[04:36] <shadaloo> i just bought it -.-
[04:37] <gr33n7007h> shadaloo: have you tried rebooting with bluetooth adapter in
[04:37] <shadaloo> no
[04:37] <shadaloo> gr33n7007h: don't see why that would do anything
[04:38] <gr33n7007h> I've has issues in the past where when rebooting with bt adpater from start recognizes it
[04:38] <shadaloo> gr33n7007h: sure why not
[04:39] <shadaloo> gr33n7007h: thanks for your input
[04:42] <malgorath> I'm trying to reinstall my system as my main SSD died on me.  Problem I'm having is my other 4 drives are all 500g 7200 RPMs that where setup with a raid 0 and I need to remove the raid now but I'm not sure how to go about it. Any suggestions?
[04:44] <TheNumb> malgorath: there's no way of removing a drive from raid 0 without loosing data.
[04:44] <malgorath> I have already backed up the data
[04:44] <TheNumb> malgorath: was it a software raid?
[04:44] <malgorath> yes
[04:46] <TheNumb> malgorath: stopping all the individual drives, removing the array and zeroing the superblocks should be enough.
[04:47] <TheNumb> malgorath: man mdadm, the switches you're looking for are --stop, --remove and --zero-superblock
[04:49] <malgorath> keeps saying the /dev/md0 file is busy
[04:49] <TheNumb> did you --stop it?
[04:49] <TheNumb> malgorath: well, is it mounted?
[04:49] <malgorath> I just rebooted and now its saying mdadm : not found
[04:50] <TheNumb> huh
[04:50] <malgorath> I might have to make a rescue usb I guess then, I am using the server install iso on usb to boot right now
[04:51] <Johan> is the the place where i can ask about ubuntu for mobile or tablet ?
[04:52] <malgorath> ah I got it to stop TheNumb
[04:52] <Johan> is the the place where i can ask about ubuntu for mobile or tablet ?
[04:53] <TheNumb> Johan: if you did your research you'd have known that there is  #ubuntu-touch
[04:53] <Johan> ok
[04:53] <TheNumb> Johan: also, repeating your question is considered rude.
[04:54] <TheNumb> Johan: if someone knows the answer, they will answer you.
[04:54] <Johan> ok sorry for that
[05:12] <mudtar> Is there a way to resize a window in Gnome 3 once it's been snapped to the side like you can in Unity? Is there perhaps a Gnome Shell extension or a configuration option to allow this?
[05:14] <home> hello
[05:14] <home> I have downloaded the "autoclose.c" file from git directory and trying to compile it with this command "gcc -c autoclose.c -fPIC `pkg-config --cflags geany`" but getting errors http://pastebin.com/feevGeZf
[05:14] <home> please help me to solve it
[05:16] <mudtar> home, would you mind posting the contents of your autoclose.c file to pastebin?
[05:18] <home> http://pastebin.com/f4TbjfDs
[05:19] <mudtar> home, it looks like what you downloaded is in fact not C source but instead HTML markup. The C compiler can only compile C source code.
[05:20] <mudtar> home, how did you acquire the autoclose.c file?
[05:20] <home> https://github.com/geany/geany-plugins/tree/master/autoclose
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: morning mate
[05:21] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, greetings = lunchtime here in Beijing
[05:22] <cfhowlett> :)
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: bon apetit then :p
[05:22] <mudtar> home, it appears that you did something like "File > Save Page As..." in your browser. When you do this, it saves the page that is currently displaying in your browser window. Web pages are delivered as HTML code.
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: can you set #ubuntu-discuss to your favs
[05:22] <home> yeah
[05:22] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, will do
[05:22] <mudtar> home, on that web page, you are only seeing a list of the files in that github project, not the files themselves.
[05:22] <gr33n7007h> home: wget https://github.com/geany/geany-plugins/blob/master/autoclose/src/autoclose.c
[05:23] <home> okay thanks let me try it
[05:23] <TheNumb> gr33n7007h: that won't work.
[05:24] <fattywumpus> how are most folks managing user accounts/ids/groups on 20+ systems.  ldap?
[05:24] <cfhowlett> fattywumpus, perhaps a question for #ubuntu-server ?
[05:24] <fattywumpus> ok, thanks!
[05:25] <mudtar> Does anyone know of what I can do to allow resizing of windows snapped to the side in Gnome 3?
[05:25] <gr33n7007h> home: git clone https://github.com/geany/geany-plugins.git
[05:27] <home> these are my recent errors http://pastebin.com/WGN8kWMD
[05:28] <gr33n7007h> TheNumb: I thought he just wanted to the autoclose.c source file, my mistake
[05:30] <TheNumb> gr33n7007h: I mean, that won't download the autoclose.c file.
[05:30] <TheNumb> It will pull down the code of the webpage.
[05:31] <gr33n7007h> TheNumb: of course, good call :)
[05:32] <gr33n7007h> it would have to be: wget https://raw.githubusercontent.com/geany/geany-plugins/master/autoclose/src/autoclose.c
[05:34] <ar647> Hi All, Does any one knows How To Set Up Master -Master-Slave Replication on PostgreSQL on an Ubuntu 14.04?
[05:38] <home> I have done what you have said to download the C file using wget but the errors I have posted at the last are the C code error not HTML error
[05:39] <home> please loo at it
[05:39] <home> look
[05:41] <gr33n7007h> home: you won't be able to compile just autoclose.c it needs dependencies
[05:42] <gr33n7007h> and my c skills are a bit rusty
[05:44] <gr33n7007h> might better of asking in #c for a more detailed approach
[05:44] <home> okay I will try
[05:45] <home> thanks
[05:45] <home> :)
[05:45] <gr33n7007h> :) good luck
[05:51] <pression> hello, i am looking for some laptop with stylus working good in linux? is posible surface pro 3 stylus work fine in ubuntu?
[05:52] <Zerkalerka> Anyone know how 15.04 works with laptops with dual graphics like the nvidia 840m or 860m?  Still have to jump through hoops to get it configured/working properly or does it work out of box these days?
[05:54] <pression> hello, i am looking for some laptop with stylus working good in linux? is posible surface pro 3 stylus work fine in ubuntu?
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> Zerkalerka: is that an optimus card?
[05:55] <Zerkalerka> yes
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> !info nvidia-prime | Zerkalerka you need this package mate
[05:57] <Zerkalerka> Ah, I am not running ubuntu at the moment, I spent days trying to get it to work correctly last time, but when 15.04 official comes out I am going to install again.  Just hoping it is easier this time around.  lol
[05:57] <Zerkalerka> I am assuming you still have to manually switch between cards.
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> Zerkalerka: you can switch with that nvidia-prime tool
[05:57] <Zerkalerka> ahh ok
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> Zerkalerka: alot of users with black screens here, on optimus cards without that nvidia-prime package
[06:00] <Zerkalerka> lotuspsychje: Yeah makes sense, I just remember having a heck of a time trying to get it to recognize the nvidia card.  Just hoping it is easier this time as I want to switch back to ubuntu fulltime
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> Zerkalerka: im sure you will mate
[06:02] <Zerkalerka> lotuspsychje: One last thing.  Official comes out on the 20th right?
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> !15.04 | Zerkalerka
[06:02] <Zerkalerka> tyty
[06:03] <TheNumb> Zerkalerka: it comes out on 23rd.
[06:03] <Zerkalerka> ok ty :)
[06:09] <pression> hello, i am looking for some laptop with stylus working good in linux? is posible surface pro 3 stylus work fine in ubuntu?
[06:31] <stangeland> Can i mount a usb harddisk such that all files have 777 permissions?
[06:31] <stangeland> all files and directories
[06:33] <HHare> mount won't change permissions, nor shiuld it
[06:34] <HHare> stangeland: the root user or a sudo user will have access to all though and could even change them if he wanted - does not sound a good choice usually
[06:35] <stangeland> HHare, its because i am running a local test site in apache and a bunch of images to be served is on a mounted usb disk, but apache cannot access them
[06:40] <TheNumb> stangeland: well, you could mount the usb drive so that a specifis user has access to the files.
[06:42] <stangeland> TheNumb, that sounds really good. how do i do that?
[06:44] <Zebbi> what's the difference beetwen taliandroid and taliapple?
[06:47] <TheNumb> stangeland: it depends on the filesystem.
[06:48] <stangeland> TheNumb, ok, how do i find out what filesystem it is?
[07:15] <geirha> stangeland: Regardless do NOT set the mode to 777. Especially not when you have a web server serving images from it
[07:18] <matt|home> howdy. im having some graphical problems , getting unity/gnome/whatever it's called working. i had a friend help me set it up, but after i did a software upgrade(the automatic installer one) and rebooted, it's only booting into xfce now. if i select default from the login screen, it just shows a background picture with no menus or anything
[07:18] <matt|home> i know for a fact i didn't change any config files or anything like that, all i did was install some upgrades with the graphical manager
[07:18] <matt|home> so.. can someone help?
[07:18] <stangeland> geirha, its a localhost server only. never exposed to web...this is nothing but development
[07:19] <Ben64> stangeland: why do things the wrong way though
[07:19] <stangeland> nevermind
[07:20] <geirha> stangeland: I'd take the time to learn unix permissions regardless. You'll need it eventually.
[07:20] <stangeland> geirha, not possible in 40 minutes ;)
[07:20] <Ben64> very possible in 40 minutes. possible in 10 minutes.
[07:21] <matt|home> oh and i did apt-get update/upgrade today, if that makes a difference
[07:21] <geirha> http://mywiki.wooledge.org/Permissions
[07:21] <fidel_> matt|home: and you see only a black background if you choose ubuntu/unity in the login-manager?
[07:22] <matt|home> no , i see the default background picture for xfce (the little rat)
[07:22] <matt|home> if i select that one
[07:22] <matt|home> but no side menus, no right click drown down menu etc
[07:22] <matt|home> drop down*
[07:23] <matt|home> fidel_ : and like i said, it was working fine with unity before i did the upgrade
[07:23] <geirha> matt|home: make sure the ubuntu-desktop package is installed
[07:24] <matt|home> uh. k?
[07:24] <matt|home> whats the command, pkg info or something?
[07:24] <mehdi> hey guys i have installed adobe flash player & pepperflashplayer but only adobe works on firefox and i use opera as defualt browser
[07:24] <mehdi> how can i activate flash plugin in opera 28?
[07:24] <geirha> matt|home: as a command, you run  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:25] <geirha> or you can search it up in the software center and check/install from there
[07:25] <TheNumb> mehdi: opera might use hardcoded path for chrome's pepper flash plugin. I'm not sure.
[07:25] <TheNumb> It used to work when I had both installed.
[07:27] <matt|home> well , i did that.
[07:27] <matt|home> i'll try rebooting, see if it works this time
[07:27] <mehdi> in 14.04 it seems the path doesn't work here is the  Install path :	/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/opera
[07:30] <matt|home> fidel_ , geirha : same problem.
[07:30] <geirha> matt|home: did the apt-get install anything or did it just say already installed?
[07:30] <matt|home> it's just showing the background image and mouse cursor and nothing else
[07:30] <matt|home> uh . i dont remember, it did something for about five seconds then put me back at the prompt. no error messages
[07:31] <geirha> ok, probably already installed then
[07:32] <geirha> at the login screen, do you have multiple sessions to pick from?
[07:32] <matt|home> yeah. xfce , default ubuntu , uh.... a couple others, one with a weird name
[07:32] <matt|home> xorg? compiz something?
[07:32] <matt|home> compiz i think
[07:33] <matt|home> im just using xfce since it took .5 seconds to install and is lightweight enough for me to test, i'd really like to be able to use unity again..
[07:33] <geirha> and you used the default ubuntu now, right?
[07:33] <matt|home> thats the one im logged into yes. also , i dont know if this makes a difference or not
[07:34] <matt|home> but when i first installed the OS, it just said ubuntu on the loading screen. now it says 'kubuntu'
[07:34] <matt|home> dunno why
[07:34] <oriceon> Hello there
[07:34] <geirha> perhaps you installed the kubuntu-desktop package at some point
[07:34] <oriceon> I have two vm with ubuntu 14
[07:34] <matt|home> maybe, i dunno
[07:34] <oriceon> I tryed to connect from one to another on a mysql server
[07:35] <oriceon> but get connection refused
[07:35] <oriceon> I did a sudo netstat -tlnp |grep 3306
[07:35] <oriceon> and get tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:3306          0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
[07:35] <geirha> oriceon: 127.0.0.1:3306 means it is only listening on localhost
[07:36] <faust> oriceon: you should configure your mysql server to listen on 0.0.0.0
[07:36] <Hiz> a
[07:36] <oriceon> and how can i make it to work remote?
[07:36] <oriceon> bind-address 0.0.0.0 ? from my.cnf
[07:36] <oriceon> or?
[07:36] <matt|home> geirha : im able to switch back and forth between the gui and commandline, so it's not like it crashed or anything. is it just not loading ? i dunno what to do ;_;
[07:37] <TheNumb> faust: why would he want to listen on all interfaces?
[07:37] <matt|home> uh, xinitrc says 'exec unity' - should that be exec ubuntu-desktop instead?
[07:37] <faust> TheNumb: because he is asking it
[07:38] <geirha> matt|home: Well, at the VT, running   sudo service lightdm restart   should bring you back to the graphical login screen. Try some other sessions to... you have an xinitrc?
[07:38] <matt|home> geirha : yeah. but no dot before it, just xinitrc
[07:39] <matt|home> looks like no matter what session i try, it only displays the background image. xfce is working for some reason however
[07:40] <geirha> matt|home: Hm. Ok, so login with the unity one again, then switch to a VT and look inside ~/.xsession-errors for some clues
[07:43] <matt|home> extension GLX missing in display 0, openconnection connect so such file or directory, update-notifier-crash
[07:43] <matt|home> something something
[07:43] <TheNumb> something something won't cut it
[07:43] <TheNumb> pastebin the logs
[07:44] <matt|home> sure.
[07:45] <oriceon> :|
[07:45] <geirha> glx missing sounds like a suspect
[07:45] <oriceon> so anyone have a minute please?
[07:46] <cfhowlett> !patience | oriceon,
[07:46] <somsip> oriceon: yes, bind-address should be 0.0.0.0 in /etc/mysql/my.cnf to accept connects from any external IP
[07:47] <TheNumb> somsip: unless the interface are firewalled
[07:47] <TheNumb> interfaces*
[07:47] <oriceon> somsip i did then restart
[07:47] <somsip> TheNumb: I tend to answer the question, and work around to the details if needed. You're right of course
[07:48] <somsip> oriceon: and?
[07:48] <oriceon> and same result on netstat and outside connection
[07:48] <oriceon> tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:3306          0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      17966/mysqld
[07:48] <oriceon> is still 127.0.0.1..
[07:48] <TheNumb> oriceon: did you restart mysql?
[07:48] <TheNumb> ...
[07:48] <oriceon> sure
[07:48] <matty|home> geirha : http://pastebin.com/vq8Ghgqn
[07:48] <matty|home> those are the .xession-errors and Xorg.1.log errors
[07:48] <matty|home> also @ TheNumb i guess
[07:49] <TheNumb> oriceon: can you pastebin your mysql config?
[07:49] <somsip> oriceon: can you connect from localhost ok? Do you have a use that has grant for an external address?
[07:49] <somsip> *user
[07:49] <oriceon> sure, one min
[07:50] <TheNumb> matty|home: looks like your nvidia kernel module is missing.
[07:50] <oriceon> http://pastebin.com/Xn6ZaVRT
[07:51] <TheNumb> matty|home: like 92 and 93
[07:51] <TheNumb> line*
[07:51] <geirha> matty|home: So it seems to be unable to find a usable driver for your graphics adapter
[07:51] <matty|home> .. TheNumb : i had a friend install it, so i dont know what they did. is there a way to automatically make it load?
[07:51] <oriceon> hmm
[07:51] <oriceon> i see another line with bind-address            = 127.0.0.1
[07:51] <matty|home> but why would doing a software update remove the driver like that
[07:51] <oriceon> one sec to comment it
[07:52] <matty|home> this is like the fifth time ive had the stupid nvidia driver error
[07:52] <matty|home> how can i permanently fix this :/
[07:52] <oriceon> yap, now workin
[07:52] <oriceon> thanks for your time
[07:53] <geirha> matty|home: the kernel was probably updated, which means the nvidia kernel module must be built again
[07:53] <matty|home> son of a bitch...
[07:53] <geirha> matty|home: If the driver was installed via Ubuntu's repositories, that would've been done automatically
[07:53] <matty|home> okay. is there a way to make it installed via the repo
[07:54] <somsip> matty|home: first tidy up wherever you installed it from previously. Which was...where?
[07:54] <TheNumb> matty|home: ask your friend how he installed it.
[07:54] <matty|home> i dont know, my friend did that for me -_- i think they used a file i downloaded
[07:54] <TheNumb> I guess he downloaded the driver from nvidia's webpage.
[07:54] <TheNumb> ,_,
[07:54] <matty|home> looks like i'll have to wait for them to come online..
[07:54] <somsip> matty|home: WHS (TheNumb) ^^^
[07:54] <matty|home> WHS ?
[07:54] <somsip> matty|home: What He Said
[07:55] <matty|home> sigh
[07:55] <matty|home> yeah. i followed some instructions off the nvidia website but things just broke more
[07:55] <matty|home> well, thanks for your help guys -_-
[07:56] <jack__> nihg
[07:56] <jack__> sabndksa
[07:56] <jack__> sabdksa
[07:56] <jack__> dsbakjgyh
[07:57] <darxmurf> hi all
[07:57] <TheNumb> jack__: please unplug your keyboard before cleaning it.
[07:57] <jack__> hai
[07:57] <jack_> wfy
[07:57] <jack_> hhh
[07:57]  * cfhowlett suspects troll activity
[07:58] <jack_> 来聊天
[07:58] <ANJ7> hey I get flickering window while playing youtube video on ubuntu
[07:58] <cfhowlett> !cn | jack_
[07:58] <jack_> 哈哈
[07:58] <jack_> 亲爱的
[07:59] <jack_> 啊啊
[07:59] <jack_>   来聊天
[07:59] <jack_>    嘿嘿、、
[07:59] <TheNumb> jack_: please stop
[07:59] <jack_> 哈哈
[08:00] <jack_> 哈哈哈哈
[08:00] <DJones> jack_: Enough, this is Ubuntu support in English, please stay on topic
[08:00] <ANJ7> any help ?
[08:00] <xww> yangyonggang
[08:00] <yang_> 666666666
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> ANJ7: did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[08:01] <ANJ7> lotuspsychje: nope
[08:01] <TheNumb> Drone`: plox ban the troll
[08:01] <lotuspsychje> ANJ7: try it please
[08:01] <yang_> 666
[08:01] <TheNumb> DJones: good call :)
[08:02] <matt|home> so i reinstalled the driver , and it appears to be loading unity. except there's no menus, and when i open any windows i dont see the x/- minimize/close buttons
[08:02] <gryzor> Hi. on 14.04, I use xfce4 as window manager. When I open a "terminal emulator", the terminal seems to technically wok but font is black on black background.
[08:02] <matt|home> what gives
[08:10] <IncredibleHighIQ> anybody knows how to make a exception apps for vpn connection?
[08:12] <vagelis> Hello everybody, I have a really bad pgraphics problem. Even now, I dont see some letters that I type.
[08:13] <vagelis> I see black spots where i have to point my mouse in order to see the "hidden" button etc . Its a new dell 15 inspiron 7548 laptop
[08:21] <ubuntu-studio> hola
[08:24] <PHPLearner> any can help me how to find www-data folder in my ubuntu
[08:24] <Ben64> by default it is /var/www/html
[08:25] <PHPLearner> did check but I can not find it there
[08:25] <Ben64> what are you expecting to find there
[08:25] <mcphail> PHPLearner: www-data is usually a user and group, rather than a folder
[08:25] <PHPLearner> ok so how to I grand read and write permission to that
[08:26] <PHPLearner> I am having problems with my NetBeans IDE because my ide can see the files but can not delete the files
[08:26] <robotdevil> what is a good way to use your android phone as a bluetooth air mouse
[08:26] <PHPLearner> the delete option is disabled
[08:26] <PHPLearner> when you look at the file in the folder it is locked but you can delete the files when you visit the folders where it is ocated
[08:26] <PHPLearner> located
[08:28] <mcphail> PHPLearner: that's generally the right design, as most people don't directly edit the production environment and work on a copy instead. But you can change the permissions on /var/www/html to whatever you want
[08:28] <PHPLearner> I alreadydid
[08:28] <PHPLearner> already did with sudo chmod -R 777 but each time I run phalcon
[08:28] <PHPLearner> the cache files do not get deleted
[08:28] <Ben64> don't do 777
[08:28] <PHPLearner> then what
[08:29] <TheNumb> ,_,
[08:29] <Ben64> you could make yourself part of the www-data group, or change the owner of the directory
[08:29] <MonkeyDust> PHPLearner  777 is dangerous, anyone could change anything and even lock you out
[08:29] <PHPLearner> I gave that command each time run phalcon on my browser
[08:29] <Ben64> chmod to 777 is almost always the wrong thing to do
[08:29] <PHPLearner> oh ok
[08:29] <PHPLearner> then how shall I correct this mistake
[08:29] <PHPLearner> and use the www-data instead
[08:30] <PHPLearner> pleae help me out on this as I am new to Linux
[08:30] <PHPLearner> and I am using it because it is a course requirement
[08:31] <PHPLearner> any help guys
[08:31] <Ben64> pick one of the two options i gave you and do it
[08:31] <linuxmint> Is there a grep command to search for a line of code, as I can't find the file containing the code?
[08:32] <linuxmint> I tried man grep, but seem to get more help from Google.
[08:32] <Ben64> linuxmint: grep <pattern> file .... but you should be asking the mint support for mint support
[08:32] <somsip> linuxmint: grep -nir {pattern} {dir} will give you the line of code in the file for a case-insensitive search, recursive in the dir
[08:33] <TheNumb> linuxmint: or use ack/the silver searcher
[08:33] <linuxmint> ok, thank you.
[08:33] <gr33n7007h> PHPLearner: sudo useradd -g www-data <user>
[08:37] <gr33n7007h> PHPLearner: or usermod if existing user
[08:37] <geirha> no, that changes the gid of the user
[08:37] <geirha> use adduser, not useradd
[08:38] <gr33n7007h> geirha: hey?
[08:38] <geirha> adduser username groupname  # to add a user to a group
[08:39] <gr33n7007h> sudo useradd -g www-data <user> #adds a new user to www-data group
[08:41] <geirha> it sets www-data as the primary group of the new user, yes. And it does not create a homedir, sets /bin/sh as login shell, doesn't set any gecos. In general, use adduser, not useradd.
[08:42] <PHPLearner> gr33n7007h: what does recursive mean in the context of folders
[08:42] <gr33n7007h> geirha: sudo usermod -a -G www-data <user> #adds existing user to www-data
[08:42] <gr33n7007h> but will use adduser in future :)
[08:43] <gr33n7007h> PHPLearner: all folders and subfolders
[08:45] <randomrandom123> can someone tell me, why ubuntu 15.04 boots to mobile ui on a touch screen desktop? and how to fix it?
[08:45] <Ben64> randomrandom123: #ubuntu+1 for support until release
[08:45] <randomrandom123> thanks.
[08:46] <k1l_> randomrandom123: you installed the desktop next test version obviously
[08:46] <fs0i> Hey guys, whenever I try to connect to my university wlan I with my notebook I get disconnected. It worked yesterday (for some time) so I know it's set up correctly, and I verfied it with the website. I even get disconnected when I try to unencrypted wifi provided by my town, so I rule misconfiguration out. I get disconnected whenever I try to connect. The mobile hotspot provided by my cellphone works though.
[08:46] <fs0i> Various stuff about my system and relevant syslog: https://gist.github.com/moritzuehling/018b6ba023908d24910c
[08:47] <randomrandom123> well i've so far found the vivd vervet and vivid vervet desktop builds. i tried both, same result. is this the wrong build too use? which one should i use instead?
[08:49] <k1l_> randomrandom123: no pms please.
[08:50] <k1l_> randomrandom123: get the regular 15.04 beta image. the desktop test image is the mir test image. that is not what you want.
[08:50] <randomrandom123> where can i get that? if i google the beta, it always redirects me to the phone builds.
[08:50] <randomrandom123> a link or a pointer on how to find it would be really nice.
[08:51] <k1l_> randomrandom123: you joined the +1 channel since that is the obvious right channel for that topic. did you read that topic in there?
[08:52] <randomrandom123> thanks alot.
[08:52] <randomrandom123> have a nice day.
[09:05] <PCatinean> Does anyone know why skype video does not work on ubuntu 14.04? also screenshare is really bad when spectating
[09:07] <anmol> i m the king yes
[09:07] <anmol> tn
[09:07] <anmol> gnf
[09:07] <anmol> nf
[09:07] <anmol> n
[09:07] <anmol> fn
[09:13] <funkenstrahlen> Hey, I have a V-Server with ubuntu and I want to messure how fast the cpu performance is as this is a virtual cpu. How can I do it?
[09:13] <archheretic> any way I can find the ethernet address in the terminal? (not the mac adress.)
[09:13] <funkenstrahlen> I also would like to compare to other cpus to know how fast mine is
[09:13] <funkenstrahlen> archheretic: ifconfig
[09:14] <archheretic> ifconfig: HWaddr   adress didnt seem to be the same as my ethernet adress, according to wireshark
[09:14] <archheretic> but it might be me that is not that proficient with wireshark
[09:15] <archheretic> ah ofc
[09:15] <archheretic> im on the internet throught wlan0 not eth0
[09:15] <archheretic> so your answer funkenstrahlen  was correct :)
[09:15] <funkenstrahlen> archheretic: :)
[09:17] <fRit_^> looking someone from Antwero
[09:17] <fRit_^> Antwerp
[09:22] <siwica> When using the Alt-Key in GNOME-Terminal the first item of the menu bar is getting focus. How can I disable this behaviour?
[09:28] <MonkeyDust> siwica  there's a link on this pagen explaining how to do it, good luck http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15090994/disable-normal-behavior-of-alt-key
[09:32] <siwica> MonkeyDust: Thank you. Looks like the answer recommends not changing this bahaviour. But doesn't ALT+BACKSPC delete a word in GNOME-Terminal (like in Emacs)? How would you do that instead?
[09:35] <MonkeyDust> siwica  http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/keyboard-shortcuts-for-bash-command-shell-for-ubuntu-debian-suse-redhat-linux-etc/
[09:36] <MonkeyDust> (learned something new myself)
[09:41] <ybl> Hello, I accidently CTRL^C a running aptitude instance and now my apt-get is giving me segfaults.. is this related ? How should i fix the segfaults ?
[09:42] <IncredibleHighIQ> ybl, kill yourself
[09:42] <MonkeyDust> ybl  try apt-get -f install (apt-get is similar to aptitude)
[09:43] <PCatinean> how does one remove python3 when installed accidentaly?
[09:43] <PCatinean> in ubuntu 14.04
[09:43] <ybl> IncredibleHighIQ: I would someday, and I would take you with me :)
[09:43] <IncredibleHighIQ> u go 1st
[09:43] <PCatinean> apt-get purge python3 seems to remove, everything
[09:43] <cfhowlett> IncredibleHighIQ, ybl cease the insults.  violation of channel guidelines
[09:44] <ybl> cfhowlett: Sorry, about that, ignoring him now.
[09:44] <cfhowlett> ybl, tyvm.
[09:50] <ybl> Oh well its working after doing an apt-get update and apt-get upgrade . Thanks MonkeyDust
[09:53] <utu8o> according to phoronix, Ubuntu and Linux in general drains more battery than windows, is this true?
[09:54] <MonkeyDust> utu8o  http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/improve-power-usage-battery-life-in.html
[09:54] <Rahul> RHEL\
[09:55] <mcphail> utu8o: in my experience, yes
[09:56] <dreamon_> hello there. I installed 14.10 and cinnamon. Thats great. but how do I remove this nasty click on touchpad as click.. this drives me insane :)
[10:06] <raichunator> ns identify
[10:16] <mrwappie> Good afternoon
[10:19] <Seveas> hello mrwappie
[10:29] <DiggsRoad> I'm having real trouble finding skypedbus.so anywhere on the internet, it's so that you can chat Skype via Finch
[10:39] <loganlee> hello
[10:46] <stevenm> Hi, I've been sent an Adobe After Effect project (basically a Video) - so I've got all the individual vector files that were used in making the video... I'd like to remake the video using these individual files - what program is best on Ubuntu for this?
[10:47] <stevenm> I was thinking LibreOffice Impress might suffice (and perhaps export to mp4 video) but the transitions/effects are a bit limiting on the image objects
[10:58] <loganlee> can u run civ v on wine?
[10:58] <mcphail> loganlee: don't know, but you can run it natively on Ubuntu
[10:59] <loganlee> mcphail, i have PC copy and i don't want to buy one for linux
[10:59] <mcphail> loganlee: does the PC copy have a steam key?
[11:00] <loganlee> mcphail, what is a steam key?
[11:00] <mcphail> loganlee: a numeric key for the Steam digital download service?
[11:00] <loganlee> mcphail, i dont know
[11:01] <stevenm> loganlee, some normal PC game serial number also work on steam (without needing to buy again) so your product can be downloaded on there too... since steam doesn't care about platform - you'd then have access to the linux version for nothing
[11:01] <stevenm> see this list... https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=7480-wusf-3601
[11:01] <stevenm> civ 5 is on there - your in luck :)
[11:01] <mcphail> loganlee: have a look. If there is a steam key you will have the Linux version for free
[11:01] <stevenm> mcphail, doesn't have to be a steam key - that's what I'm saying
[11:02] <stevenm> valve have programmed their steam to accept other non-steam keys
[11:02] <mcphail> stevenm: missed that as I was distracted when typing :)
[11:02] <stevenm> cd keys basically
[11:08] <nalum> hello all, I'm having some trouble with my wifi connection on ubuntu 14.04. It keeps dropping and when it is connected it's very slow
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> nalum: ubuntu version and wifi chipset please?
[11:11] <mo_n> hello there
[11:11] <nalum> not sure where to get the chipset, the product from lshw -C Network is BCM4360 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter ubuntu is 14.04.2
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> !broadcom | nalum
[11:13] <scorpio_> can me help?
[11:13] <lotuspsychje> scorpio_: if you ask us your issue
[11:13] <lotuspsychje> nalum: did you install ubuntu with cable internet enabled?
[11:14] <BluesKaj> HI all
[11:14] <scorpio_> I want to install SFTP + chrootdirectory. Everything done by manual. Owner chroot folder (/var/www/igor) is root.   However the owner of the folder /var/www - not root.   sshd_config: Match User igor ForceCommand internal-sftp ChrootDirectory /var/www/igor       AllowTCPForwarding no X11Forwarding no  The logs:  "bad ownership or modes for chroot directory component "/var/www".  Whats problem?
[11:17] <geirha> scorpio_: Hard to say without seeing ''ls -ld /var/www''
[11:18] <archheretic> whats the best way to display arp cache?
[11:19] <scorpio_> geirha: owner of /var/www - is master. not root. i wrote.
[11:19] <archheretic> Im trying something like this: were the last numbers is my IP adress.
[11:19] <archheretic> arp [-vn] [ether] [-i wlan0] [-a] [10.224.213.52]
[11:19] <archheretic> I get Host name lookup failure
[11:20] <geirha> scorpio_: group ownership and permission mode also matter
[11:20] <hit_> Hi, I have bougth a new ssd drive Samsung EVO 850 120Gb, Im trying to create a partition of 30Gb with gparted and its taking forever. On the details I see is stuck at the mkfs.ext4 -L step. Is this normal?
[11:20] <scorpio_> geirha:  drwxr-xr-x 4 master master 4096 Apr 14 11:41 /var/www
[11:20] <ponyrider> archheretic: do you have localhost up?
[11:21] <archheretic> Im on my schools network so Im not sure how it all works.
[11:22] <geirha> scorpio_: ah right, must be root-owner. Missed that part.
[11:22] <geirha> *root-owned
[11:22] <nalum> lotuspsychje: No, I had a lot of trouble getting this machine set up. At the time I didn't have access to a wired connection.
[11:23] <scorpio_> geirha: but /var/www/igor - is root:root. I want use igor folder for chroot))))
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> nalum: might be reccomended to install with cable + updates enabled during setup so ubuntu will search latest broadcom drivers too
[11:24] <geirha> scorpio_: «All components of the pathname must be root-owned directories that are not writable by any other user or group.»
[11:24] <geirha> scorpio_: ^ says so under ChrootDirectory in sshd_config(5)
[11:25] <scorpio_> geirha: thx.  I was hoping it was a joke (
[11:25] <nalum> lotuspsychje: once I had a connection I installed the broadcom drivers from the additional drivers tab.
[11:25] <aleray> hi, how can install a more recent version of webkit and epiphany than the ones shipped with ubuntu 14.04 by default ?
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> nalum: you might wanna try that bcmlw firmware package
[11:29] <mcphail> aleray: the LTS releases is designed to be stable, and does not support "more recent versions" by default. You may be able to find a PPA for your packages, but be aware that PPA's can break things in unexpected ways.
[11:29] <h9x> hello
[11:29] <nalum> lotuspsychje: do you know which one it is? I can't find it using packages.ubuntu.com
[11:30] <Kartagis> ehlo
[11:30] <h9x> i have big problem in my labtop
[11:30] <Guest62881> h9x, be more specific :)
[11:31] <h9x> i can't disconnect the HDMI
[11:31] <jellie> Hey, I installed mosh without going through a PPA successfully yet according to the mosh docs to install mosh on ubuntu I should use a PPA.
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> !info firmware-b43-installer | nalum
[11:31] <jellie> Is there any chance that what I installed isn't complete or something?
[11:32] <lotuspsychje> !info mosh | jellie
[11:33] <nalum> lotuspsychje: thanks will give that a shot
[11:33] <jellie> lotuspsychje: That didn't really answer my question since I have already installed it from the repos without going through a PPA
[11:33] <MonkeyDust> jellie  find mosh in the repos, no need to use a ppa
[11:33] <aleray> mcphail, ok thanks
[11:33] <jellie> which is what the mosh docs say I should do
[11:33] <jellie> MonkeyDust: Thanks
[11:33] <h9x> i have big problem in my labtop i can't disconnect the HDMI
[11:34] <jellie> h9x: What do you mean you can't disconnect HDMI?
[11:35] <TheNumb> h9x: did you glue the cable to your laptop?
[11:35] <TheNumb> or what
[11:35] <TheNumb> h9x: there's usually a button which allows you to switch the output.
[11:36] <TheNumb> Disable the HDMI output and you're golden.
[11:39] <h9x> wait a second
[11:42] <nszceta> here comes
[11:43] <archheretic> arp -vn ether -i wlan0 -a archheretic-P17SM
[11:43] <archheretic> ether: Host name lookup failure
[11:44] <lotuspsychje> archheretic: maybe the ##networking guys can help you with that
[11:44] <archheretic> so the command is right?
[11:44] <archheretic> ah
[11:44] <archheretic> i see
[11:46] <h9x> look to these picture
[11:46] <h9x> http://cdn.top4top.net/i_ac95f45bc62.jpg
[11:46] <h9x> http://up.top4top.net/delf956d839f16fd57939076f6b4745bb16.html
[11:46] <Eightynine> Hi. I'm using Ubuntu 14.04 LTS with Fluxbox, Openbox, LXDE, XFCE, and MATE(trying which is better) and I've noticed that Software Updater began to lag and freeze. I'm trying to click Details and it's not responding and then I'm trying to close or minimize it and it says "This window is not responding. How to fix this?
[11:46] <nalum> lotuspsychje: that hasn't changed anything unfortunately
[11:47] <EriC^^> Eightynine: open a terminal and type xkill
[11:47] <[gtn]> ciao a tutti
[11:47] <EriC^^> then aim and shoot
[11:47] <Eightynine> Is this a joke?
[11:47] <EriC^^> no seriously
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> !it [gtn]
[11:47] <h9x>  i have big problem in my labtop  i can't disconnect the HDMI
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> !it | [gtn]
[11:48] <Eightynine> It closed though I didn't type that command.
[11:48] <[gtn]> qualche italia?
[11:48] <hit_> No one knows my problem? It has been more than 1 hour to mkfs.ext4 on a 30Gb partition. Should I return the disk to the shop?
[11:48] <[gtn]> qualcuno italiano? sono nuovo
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> !english | [gtn]
[11:48] <[gtn]> hello to everybody
[11:48] <EriC^^> hit_: is it an empty disk?
[11:49] <hit_> yes, just bought today
[11:49] <EriC^^> hit_: try to make a fresh partition table
[11:49] <EriC^^> hit_: gpt if you want
[11:49] <hit_> ok
[11:49] <EriC^^> will you be using it with uefi>
[11:49] <EriC^^> ?
[11:49] <Eightynine> Why that utility began to freeze? Maybe that's because of many DEs?
[11:49] <hit_> humm I think Im not much technical
[11:50] <EriC^^> Eightynine: i doubt
[11:50] <EriC^^> Eightynine: run it from the terminal and it might say what's going on
[11:51] <Eightynine> And I've noticed that wallpaper disappeared in LXDE and installed like a background for panel. What's going on with my system?
[11:51] <EriC^^> hit_: are you going to install win8 to it?
[11:51] <hit_> no
[11:51] <hit_> its an old laptop, only lubuntu
[11:51] <EriC^^> hit_: ok, make a msdos partition table
[11:52] <hit_> ok, on it
[11:52] <EriC^^> type sudo parted -l and get it's name, then type sudo fdisk /dev/sdX
[11:52] <Eightynine> I'm planning to replace my hardware will my system work with it or I should reinstall it?
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> Eightynine: check your logs: syslog, dmesg
[11:52] <bazhang> what hardware Eightynine
[11:54] <Eightynine> I'm currently using AMD processor and graphics but I'm planning to build Intel-based system. My motherboard uses BIOS and the new one will be with UEFI.
[11:54] <svetlana> backup; reinstall; restore useful stuff from backup
[11:54] <h9x> some help guys
[11:54] <Eightynine> It's required because of UEFI?
[11:55] <EriC^^> h9x: what exactly is the issue?
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> Eightynine: whats required?
[11:55] <svetlana> Eightynine: that, and the architecture change, are my guess
[11:55] <Eightynine> To backup and reinstall system as svetlana said.
[11:56] <EriC^^> Eightynine: you could copy your whole installation if you wanted, but why not start fresh and copy the backup stuf
[11:56] <lotuspsychje> fresh installs are the best
[11:56] <OerHeks> Eightynine, backup your data and try it? my best guess is that you need some steps to make UEFI work.
[11:56] <OerHeks> !uefi
[11:57] <Eightynine> Because I installed it a few days ago. By the way I found a cause of my problem with Software Updater. It was a conflict with LXDE.
[11:57] <lotuspsychje> Eightynine: did you try to update from terminal?
[11:58] <cossy> by the python?
[11:58] <Eightynine> I'll try it but I've just opened it in XFCE for a second time and now it works but lags a bit.
[11:59] <bazhang> how much ram there Eightynine
[11:59] <Eightynine> 4 GB
[11:59] <bazhang> what graphics card model and how old is the computer Eightynine
[12:00] <Eightynine> Radeon 6750 and my computer is 3 years old(I built it in 2012) though hardware is pretty old(I mean generation)
[12:01] <Eightynine> Python is evil, guys.
[12:02] <bazhang> Eightynine, you are going to get a completely new computer, why are doing this now
[12:02] <bazhang> Eightynine, stay on topic please
[12:02] <k1l> Eightynine: is the right video driver installed and loaded? what says (h)top to the system load when you have that lag?
[12:02] <svetlana> doing what? i think he/she intends to reinstall
[12:02] <svetlana> nothing wrong with that
[12:03] <bazhang> k1l, that card is ancient as far as amd support goes
[12:03] <Eightynine> I have a client who wants to upgrade his 10 years old PC and I asked him if he wants to buy my PC and seems like he agreed.
[12:03] <svetlana> no problem; go ahead
[12:04] <Eightynine> Not my system lags, it's only program loading list for a long time.
[12:04] <svetlana> didn't get that
[12:04] <svetlana> when did it start lagging
[12:05] <Eightynine> I'm oppening that tool and clicking on any item and than Details and waiting a few seconds until it shows details about updates.
[12:05] <bazhang> which tool is that Eightynine
[12:06] <OerHeks> Eightynine, is a few seconds bad?
[12:06] <OerHeks> .. come on ..
[12:06] <Eightynine> XFCE works pretty good but font rendering could be better and some items are small. MATE has a menu lags.
[12:06] <svetlana> OerHeks: yes it is bad
[12:06] <Eightynine> I mean Software Updater tool.
[12:06] <svetlana> Eightynine: is it on your old computer or on your new computer
[12:07] <k1l> what cpu is it?
[12:07] <bazhang> Eightynine, did you install the restricted-extras as we suggested
[12:07] <k1l> Eightynine: and what about the details on the system load i requested?
[12:07] <Eightynine> I thought it should open details right after mouse click.
[12:07] <Eightynine> I'll install extras now.
[12:08] <bazhang> that depends entirely on the total system usage, cpu processes ram etc
[12:08] <svetlana> am I the only one who doesn't follow
[12:08] <Eightynine> svetlana I havent changed my PC yet.
[12:09] <svetlana> so it's on the old computer
[12:09] <svetlana> was it always like this or did this slowness start recently
[12:09] <Eightynine> System load is up to 6% and RAM is loaded on 20%
[12:11] <Eightynine> It's started recently and speaking about MATE when I used it before it's menu lagged only after boot and then began to work good and when I tried it on Ubuntu it lags almost everytime and sometimes looses icons.
[12:11] <TheNumb> Eightynine: maybe the gpu is dying
[12:11] <TheNumb> anything in dmesg?
[12:12] <svetlana> ok then i need to forget all the garbage about moving computers and start over
[12:12] <Eightynine> I think that the right decision will be to remove all except Fluxbox and XFCE though I consider XFCE unusable.
[12:13] <k1l> Eightynine: you are telling unspecific stories. please give way more details. like cpu that is used. what does system load say (not the processes)
[12:13] <k1l> *sight*
[12:13] <svetlana> so your problem is 'xfce does not lag but MATE does', right?
[12:13] <svetlana> k1l: i am trying to not go that tech savvy yet
[12:13] <svetlana> just to understand the issue
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> Eightynine  yes, linux/ubuntu offers a lot of choice... if you don't lik eit, don't use it, use something else
[12:13] <Eightynine> Yes, that's right.
[12:13] <svetlana> ah
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> typos*
[12:14] <Eightynine> And LXDE is buggy. So I should remove them.
[12:14] <svetlana> yeah, remove lxde and mate, and poke #xfce about making xfce usable
[12:14] <svetlana> it's very customizable last i checked
[12:14] <svetlana> recommend package shimmer-themes, it makes it look pretty
[12:15] <Eightynine> Thanks. I'll install extras as you recommend, remove LXDE and MATE and check dmesg
[12:15] <svetlana> well
[12:15] <svetlana> i think extras stuff was meant to be useful together with lxde or mate to see if the problem goes away
[12:15] <srvn>  alacarte not working in ELEMENTARY OS Luna. running but cannot add or edit.
[12:15] <Eightynine> Should I use Software Center or terminal to do that?
[12:15] <svetlana> if you're not using lxde or mate it's probably useful
[12:15] <Bluewolf> Hi all, Anyone know much about themes. I have Ubuntu Gnome 14.04 installed and I prefer my interface to be dark due to eye problems, yet the default theme which I like (Adwaita Dark) does not work on LibreOffice, Gimp and VLC which I use most. Anyone know how to get it dark?
[12:15] <svetlana> you can use the software center, it works to do this
[12:16] <bazhang> the first complaint was about fonts, thus the extras package
[12:16] <k1l> srvn: ask the elementary guys what to do about that. we cant help there
[12:16] <svetlana> ah
[12:16] <svetlana> okay, install extras, remove mate, remove lxde
[12:16] <svetlana> i am okay with this solution
[12:16] <svetlana> :)
[12:16] <Eightynine> MATE and LXDE has better font rendering and file manager but LXDE has ancient look and feel.
[12:17] <svetlana> free to share #xfce your screenshots of font issues, it's got full fonts configuring power (there is a special dialog), and the extras thingy will help
[12:17] <k1l> Eightynine: choose what you like. but we dont need to argue about what you like best in here. start a blog for your personal ranting.
[12:17] <svetlana> he isn't ranting
[12:17] <svetlana> he's solving a problem with performance and sharing thoughts on bugs
[12:18] <svetlana> (or she)
[12:18] <svetlana> if someone is ranting, that'd be me :)
[12:18] <Eightynine> I got message during update installation: "System problem detected. Do you want to report now?"
[12:18] <svetlana> yes, report it
[12:18] <svetlana> it'll tell you what's the problem while you go through the reporting process
[12:19] <Eightynine> Now it asks to restart my PC. Maybe click "Later"?
[12:19] <ViK_de> hi guys! How do you manage to get iphone woriking in kubuntu? i got it workin in ubuntu gnome and rythmbox out of the box but with kubuntu i cannot even get the iphone in dolphin S:
[12:20] <svetlana> Eightynine: if you can restart now, it'd be better. it must have upgraded something important that would break a bit if you don't restart (this is rare, usually just for the kernel upgrades).
[12:20] <svetlana> if you click 'later', try to do it as soon as you reasonably can.
[12:21] <Eightynine> It installed kernel update which fix issues. It says something about CVE etc
[12:21] <bazhang> Eightynine, what does lsb_release -a in terminal say
[12:22] <Eightynine> Will it better to restart now or first remove MATE and LXDE and then restart to apply updates?
[12:22] <svetlana> Eightynine: right - that's why. it's okay to delay it but you'll be running a vulnerable kernel while you wait, and some programs might act up a little and complain that they don't see something.
[12:22] <svetlana> better restart first, I'd say; mate or lxde removal won't ask you for another restart.
[12:22] <Eightynine> Description:	Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS
[12:22] <bazhang> Eightynine, there is simply no need to remove mate etc, that will not fix your current issues
[12:23] <svetlana> bazhang: they're slow, he dislikes them. his call.
[12:23] <bazhang> svetlana, completely unneccesary
[12:23] <Eightynine> LXDE is buggy and MATE is slow.
[12:23] <svetlana> bazhang: i think it's good advice to suggest people remove the software they dislike.
[12:23] <OerHeks> Eightynine, first restart, then remove stuff
[12:24] <Eightynine> Thanks for help.
[12:24] <svetlana> (of course, they can keep all software installed,if they have the space. but they won't use it.)
[12:24] <Eightynine> I can't understand why fonts and icons are better in MATE and why is everything is small in XFCE.
[12:25] <svetlana> i don't know how mate works, but xfce has a fonts preferences dialog where you can set font size, aliasing, hinting, and dpi - i think it should do the job
[12:25] <Eightynine> I have a lot of space but no need to use something that unnecessary.
[12:25] <bazhang> Eightynine, this goes back to you not having installed the extras package as we long ago suggested
[12:25] <svetlana> to avoid confusion, i would not come back to fonts before rebooting and installing the extra fonts
[12:26] <Eightynine> Those extras needed only for XFCE?
[12:26] <svetlana> yes
[12:26] <bazhang> svetlana, thats simply not correct
[12:26] <Eightynine> Oh, it's clear now.
[12:26] <svetlana> or not
[12:27] <Eightynine> I'm restarting. See you later.
[12:27] <svetlana> i thought they'd be needed only for xfce if the things work ok in other des -- i thought they use something else that replaces these extras
[12:27] <svetlana> bye, see you
[12:28] <svetlana> can i shoot something for subjecting me to a discussion where a user has xfce-specific fonts issues and is suggested to install a package which is not xfce-specific
[12:28] <svetlana> instead of going and looking into the xfce font preferences dialog
[12:28] <bazhang> shoot something?
[12:28] <svetlana> yes
[12:29] <svetlana> since i am not allowed to yell at people or shoot people, i have to resort to yelling at things or shooting things
[12:29] <EriC^^> is it shooting season already?
[12:29] <svetlana> hehe
[12:29] <svetlana> about time
[12:29] <EriC^^> :P
[12:32] <svetlana> i'll leave you with it; it's time for me to leave; please be gentle
[12:32] <Eightynine> Restarted my system and it said that problem appeared and asked me to report it. And now it says "Sorry, internal system error appeared". I opened details and I can see that cause is Grub" Grub-mount crashed with SIGSEGV in memmove()
[12:36] <amahoola> i hate it when my apps get autorejected from developer.ubuntu.com :P
[12:36] <OerHeks> amahoola, we don't, do you have an ubuntu support question?
[12:37] <Bluewolf> Hi all, Anyone know much about themes. I have Ubuntu Gnome 14.04 installed and I prefer my interface to be dark due to eye problems, yet the default theme which I like (Adwaita Dark) does not work on LibreOffice, Gimp and VLC which I use most. Anyone know how to get it dark?
[12:38] <bazhang> Bluewolf, how to theme those particular apps?
[12:38] <bazhang> Bluewolf, did you mean something like skins for vlc and so on
[12:39] <Eightynine> My system is a mess. How can I completely remove Gnome, MATE and LXDE?
[12:39] <amahoola> OerHeks, well, no, my app will probably get published after the manual review
[12:40] <bazhang> Eightynine, what other de do you have installed
[12:40] <amahoola> OerHeks, just like my other apps that got autorejected
[12:40] <Bluewolf> bazhang: Well yes something like that. I have the theme installed and yet those applications do not use it, not to mention that the test in Ubuntu Software Centre is barely visible.
[12:40] <bazhang> Eightynine, removing those will not fix or remove the mess
[12:40] <Eightynine> Fluxbox and XFCE
[12:40] <splitwire> Eightynine - can't you just uninstall all the programs that were installed with those desktops and then uninstall the desktops
[12:41] <bazhang> Bluewolf, the test? did you mean text
[12:41] <Eightynine> It's a long process can I use terminal?
[12:41] <splitwire> I think so
[12:41] <bazhang> Eightynine, we have no idea what you did
[12:41] <splitwire> if you can make a list then you could just type out a script to do it all
[12:41] <bazhang> Eightynine, better to just get the xubuntu iso, and start over
[12:42] <splitwire> I agree with bazhang
[12:42] <Eightynine> I have Gnome splash in my system.
[12:42] <splitwire> if you want to try out a lot of different desktops, use a VM and then just burn it when you're done
[12:42] <Bluewolf> bazhang: Yes the text, pardon me.
[12:42] <bazhang> Eightynine, and the very first step is to install xubuntu-restricted-extras package following the initail update and upgrade
[12:43] <bazhang> Bluewolf, I seem to recall vlc being skinnable, not sure about gimp however
[12:44] <bazhang> Bluewolf, I know that a much lighter music player, audacious is extremely skinnable, as is the all in one replacement for vlc , smplayer
[12:44] <MonkeyDust> audacious is awesome
[12:45] <MrNumber3isme> Hello room. Anybody knowledgable in the area of permissions granting?
[12:45] <Eightynine> I think DeadBeef is a good player and SMPlayer is better for video.
[12:45] <bazhang> Bluewolf, audactious is appararently qute similar to winamp, if you are familiar with that, in terms of being skinnable
[12:45] <Mitt> MrNumber3isme what's the question?
[12:45] <Eightynine> I installed Synaptic
[12:46] <Mitt> Eightynine Parole is good for both
[12:46] <bazhang> !permissions | MrNumber3isme
[12:46] <bazhang> Eightynine, why are you doing that
[12:46] <Bluewolf> bazhang: Well to be honest I have heard of themes for VLC, though the biggest problem for me is LibreOffice and Gimp, I do most of my work in these for long hours which definitely affects my eyes.
[12:46] <Bluewolf> I don't use audactious
[12:46] <Eightynine> I tried to use Parole a few years ago and didn't like it. Maybe now it's much better.
[12:47] <bazhang> Eightynine, you have a very long road ahead in trying to remove the entirety of those de and all the associated applications
[12:47] <Eightynine> bazhang I'm doing it to remove DEs that I don't need and install extras.
[12:47] <EriC^^> i'm using gmusic-browser , it's light and nice
[12:47] <MrNumber3isme> When I access any SD card I insert, the card mounts as read only. using chmod does nothing. I have to remount through terminal. the real problem is that when I try to navigate through the folders on the SD card, the permissions reset to read only. I'm getting real tired of having to remount the card every time I change folders.
[12:47] <bazhang> Bluewolf, ok, just a suggestion
[12:48] <splitwire> Eightynine, what he is trying to tell you is that you are going to have issues if you do not get all the programs and packages associated with each unique de you are removing also uninstalled
[12:48] <splitwire> it would be easier to bu your data, nuke and pave a new install
[12:48] <Eightynine> I'm trying to remove gnome-session and it asks to remove ubuntu-session.
[12:49] <MrNumber3isme> specifically, the command I end up using is
[12:49] <cfhowlett> splitwire is correct.  way more sane!
[12:49] <MrNumber3isme> mount --options remount,rwx /dev/sdb1
[12:49] <Bluewolf> bazhang: As a matter of interest, there is a theme called Gnomish Dark which themes all the applications in question, although it is a bit brighter and I do not like it much. I am forced to use it as its better than the bright background.
[12:50] <EriC^^> MrNumber3isme: i think there's no rwx, just rw
[12:50] <Bluewolf> Would fiddling with themes be a pain?
[12:50] <EriC^^> -o remount,rw
[12:51] <MrNumber3isme> @eric, no avail. still acting up.
[12:51] <EriC^^> MrNumber3isme: what filesystem does it have>?
[12:51] <mcphail> MrNumber3isme: what filesystem is the sdcard?
[12:51] <OerHeks> list with tons of themes here, http://www.noobslab.com/p/themes-icons.html
[12:51] <MrNumber3isme> Fat32. I use it for my soft-modded Wii.
[12:52] <MrNumber3isme> Mounts perfectly on my wii, using Damn Small Linux.
[12:52] <EriC^^> MrNumber3isme: mount it with whatever options you want, like -o uid=1000,gid=1000,fmask=000,dmask=000
[12:53] <EriC^^> MrNumber3isme: unmount it, then type sudo mount -o uid=<your uid>,gid=<your gid>,fmask=000,dmask=000
[12:53] <EriC^^> MrNumber3isme: unmount it, then type sudo mount -o uid=<your uid>,gid=<your gid>,fmask=000,dmask=000 /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[12:54] <MrNumber3isme> still acting up.
[12:55] <EriC^^> type ls -l /mnt | head -n 2
[12:55] <EriC^^> and paste here
[12:56] <ponyrider>  ill have a look
[12:56] <amahoola>  /join #elementary
[12:56] <amahoola> derp
[12:56] <ponyrider> paste the output of cat /proc/mounts
[12:57] <MrNumber3isme> total 40   -rw-r--r-- 1 root root   376 Sep 25  2006 README
[12:57] <Eightynine>  sudo aptitude remove gnome* Is this correct?
[12:58] <ponyrider> i am not ubuntu sorry. sounds like you are removing your DE though.. that might be bad.
[12:59] <Pici> 70
[12:59] <EriC^^> MrNumber3isme: type sudo blkid /dev/sdc1
[12:59] <EriC^^> sorry sdb1
[13:00] <MrNumber3isme> hmmm .. nothing happened.
[13:00] <ponyrider> or just sudo blkid
[13:00] <EriC^^> MrNumber3isme: did you use sudo?
[13:00] <ponyrider> must use sudo
[13:01] <MrNumber3isme> I'm in a root shell. I tried just blkid, and it worked now ... but hey. stupid question ... how does one copy from xterm? I use X11 desktop
[13:01] <EriC^^> MrNumber3isme: highlight the text then click the middle mouse button to paste it
[13:02] <ponyrider> or ctrl shift c
[13:02] <ponyrider> if its builtin...
[13:02] <MrNumber3isme> that may be an issue. laptop with no middle mouse button. Right click doesn't work, Ctrl + C doesn't work.
[13:02] <Bluewolf> OerHeks: Thanks, though I would rather try and get these two applications sorted with - http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/10/use-adwaita-dark-as-your-system-theme
[13:03] <EriC^^> MrNumber3isme: type blkid | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:03] <EriC^^> it should give you a link
[13:03] <MrNumber3isme> either way, for some reason, sdb isn't listed at all. it's just my hdd partitions in sda 1 - 6
[13:03] <ponyrider> SHIFT. CTRL SHIFT C
[13:03] <EriC^^> MrNumber3isme: try to unplug then plug back in
[13:03] <ponyrider> portable hdd?
[13:04] <MrNumber3isme> no. all internal hdd. multi boot system.
[13:04] <EriC^^> ponyrider: it's a sd card
[13:05] <MrNumber3isme> http://termbin.com/oyoz
[13:06] <ponyrider> lol what are you doing on that hdd
[13:06] <MrNumber3isme> still no go with reading the card now ... it's never not read the card before.
[13:06] <ponyrider> tower pc or laptop?
[13:06] <EriC^^> MrNumber3isme: did you try unplugging then plugging back in?
[13:07] <ponyrider> try this echo 1 | sudo tee /sys/bus/pci/rescan
[13:07] <MrNumber3isme> My GF refuses to learn linux, so I've got windoze vista on here, but I've been tweaking Kubuntu with KDE4 to look like vista to get her over to the light side
[13:07] <MrNumber3isme> Yeah, I've unplugged/plugged.
[13:07] <ponyrider> some guy on the ubuntu forum recommends restarting w sd card in slot.
[13:08] <ponyrider> she wont come. shes too pure aaarrg
[13:09] <MrNumber3isme> I suppose I can try restarting with the card in the slot ....
[13:09] <ponyrider> try that
[13:09] <MrNumber3isme> brb
[13:10] <EriC^^> try partprobe
[13:10] <EriC^^> maybe
[13:16] <MrNumber3isme> Okie dokie. Card is recognized again
[13:17] <EriC^^> MrNumber3isme: ok type sudo lsblk -f | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:22] <mikhail> .
[13:25] <jonascj> I am installing texlive in ubuntu 14.04, and currently it is going very very slow: "Get:20 http://dk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/main texlive-pstricks all 2013.20140215-2 [26.2 MB]" is going at 19kb/s, taking 2 hours. Right before other packages were going at 4mb/s.
[13:25] <swizgard_> hi. any ideas why using apt-cacher-ng gives me hash-sum mismatches quite often?
[13:26] <swizgard_> (making it quite unusable)
[13:26] <jonascj> How can I find out if that particular archive is just really slow or if there is something else amiss?
[13:26] <LittleBish> what is ubuntu?
[13:26] <LittleBish> and is it uBUNtu ?
[13:26] <LittleBish> or OOboontoo ?
[13:26] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu | LittleBish
[13:27] <LittleBish> or is it AHHBUNTUH
[13:27] <compdoc> an operating system
[13:27] <LittleBish> or is it
[13:27] <LittleBish> how do you guys call it?
[13:27] <MonkeyDust> !manual | LittleBish
[13:27] <compdoc> its a way of life for some
[13:27] <LittleBish> hold on hold on
[13:27] <LittleBish> how do you guys call it?
[13:27] <LittleBish> i'm thinking OOBOONTOO ?
[13:27] <LittleBish> like that
[13:27] <compdoc> ubishtu
[13:27] <LittleBish> aww <3
[13:27] <cfhowlett> LittleBish, use whatever works for you
[13:27] <LittleBish> yeah well i dont want to look like a retard to my boyfriend
[13:28] <compdoc> too late
[13:28] <cfhowlett> LittleBish, somehow I doubt that will be an issue ...
[13:28] <LittleBish> :(
[13:28] <LittleBish> you guys are mean
[13:28] <OerHeks> swizgard_, likely because the lists are corrupted, run: sudo rm -fR /var/lib/apt/lists/*  # and then: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:28] <MonkeyDust> LittleBish  this is ubuntu support. Did you have a support question?
[13:29] <LittleBish> no i stopped talking
[13:29] <LittleBish> i'm just debating between linux or ubuntu
[13:29] <LittleBish> or mac
[13:29] <LittleBish> so i was thinking i'd watch how you guys interact
[13:29] <compdoc> ubuntu is linux
[13:29] <LittleBish> whhhaaaaa
[13:29] <LittleBish> ok between mac or ubuntu
[13:30] <cfhowlett> LittleBish, both.  ubuntu will run on the mac
[13:30] <mikecmpbll> heh
[13:30] <swizgard_> OerHeks: i do that all the time and it does not really help
[13:30] <OerHeks> swizgard_, oke, maybe this is partial, run: sudo rm -R /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*
[13:30] <swizgard_> OerHeks: i delete it all
[13:31] <swizgard_> i even sometimes reset the cacher itself
[13:31] <OerHeks> swizgard_, are you on a supported ubuntu version ?
[13:31] <swizgard_> OerHeks: yes
[13:32] <swizgard_> repositories failig in question were utopic-updates. without apt-cacher-ng it runs fine
[13:32] <swizgard_> the apt-cacher-ng runs on debian wheezy
[13:32] <OerHeks> swizgard_, then go look for the issue there, not on your workstation
[13:32] <swizgard_> OerHeks: so would you say it's the apt-cacher's problem and #debian the right channel?
[13:33] <swizgard_> ok
[13:33] <OerHeks> Yes
[13:34] <chotaz`w> can anyone suggest me a good app to nest terminals? or organize multiple terminal instances?
[13:35] <nomic> you can do ctrl-t in the terminal window - get another terminal prompt
[13:35] <Eightynine> Remove all DEs I don't need anymore and now my system works much better. Give me please a command to install Xubuntu extras.
[13:35] <nomic> shift-ctrl-t
[13:35] <OerHeks> Eightynine, open softwarecenter and search?
[13:36] <cfhowlett> Eightynine, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:36] <Eightynine> It was removed during Gnome uninstallation. Thanks cfhowlett
[13:36] <nomic> shift-ctrl-t opens another terminal instance, as a tab, in your current terminal window  (  chotaz`w )
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> chotaz`w  or use the screen command... you can then terminate the instance and even logout, without terminating running processes ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Screen
[13:39] <jonascj> How do I debug why installing / getting a certain package (or archive) is very slow? I am install texlive-full, and some packages see 4mb/s, but others 20kb/s.
[13:41] <OerHeks> jonascj, simply abort update, and run it again?
[13:42] <Eightynine> Thanks for help.
[13:43] <LittleBish> do people even talk here?
[13:43] <MonkeyDust> !ot | LittleBish
[13:44] <LittleBish> holy....
[13:44] <cfhowlett> LittleBish, this is a support channel. for chit chat, try a different channel \
[13:44] <LittleBish> got banned from chat channel
[13:44] <LittleBish> what other channel can you suggest?
[13:44] <cfhowlett> LittleBish, so you know the ruls
[13:44] <cfhowlett> *rules*
[13:44] <lmat> I'm using ubuntu and trying to get the grub menu to not show up upon boot. Did ubuntu mess this up or something? The docs ( https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Simple-configuration.html ) say "GRUB_TIMEOUT Boot the default ... Set to '0' to boot immediately without displaying the menu..." I set it to 0, but the menu still shows up. My /etc/default/grub is http://sprunge.us/hTca
[13:44] <ANJ7> LittleBish: ##explain
[13:45] <lmat> bekks: I think you said something about this before? ^
[13:45] <LittleBish> 8 users on there wtff
[13:45] <ANJ7> or #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> LittleBish  please behave
[13:45] <LittleBish> alright will try my niggas
[13:45] <cfhowlett> LittleBish, that kind of language will get you banned from here.
[13:45] <LittleBish> thank yall :)
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> LittleBish  of course, you were banned for no reason...
[13:45] <LittleBish> wassup ?
[13:45] <LittleBish> whats wrong?
[13:46] <cfhowlett> LittleBish, consider yourself added to my /ignore list
[13:46] <LittleBish> what kind of language?
[13:46] <LittleBish> why cfhowlett?
[13:46] <Harry> LittleBish, you weren't even on a chat channel before, nor are you now. If you don't need ubuntu support please leave this channel.
[13:46] <LittleBish> not today
[13:46] <ANJ7> LittleBish: if you need help stay here otherwise look for other channels :)
[13:46] <LittleBish> was on another day got banned for 30 days
[13:46] <LittleBish> ye ye i got you
[13:46] <LittleBish> alright my niggas i'mma hit up offtopic section
[13:47] <MonkeyDust> LittleBish  switch off your computer and go out and play
[13:47] <LittleBish> naw nigga got here from a party last night tho
[13:47] <LittleBish> so tired af
[13:47] <OerHeks> !ops | LittleBish
[13:47] <LittleBish> whats up
[13:47] <lmat> oh my...
[13:47] <LittleBish> why yall sending bots so much?
[13:47] <LittleBish> i do something wrong?
[13:49] <mikecmpbll> troll alert.
[13:50] <OerHeks> mikecmpbll, a little sunshine make them go
[13:50] <mikecmpbll> :)
[13:51] <Bluewolf> So is there no one who could knows how to get the Ubuntu Gnome default theme Adwaita Dark theme working in LibreOffice and Gimp. Would following these instructions work? - https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=116652
[13:52] <kulelu88> Hello there
[13:52] <jonascj> OerHeks: It happens every time. Some archives are fetched at 4mb/s, and others at 20kb/s.
[13:53] <kulelu88> Does anybody know how I can activate the internal hardware for a Lenovo laptop that uses 3G/Mobile-Simcard?
[13:53] <kulelu88> I inserted the sim card by the battery but it doesn't seem to allow me to activate mobile broadband on the network settings
[13:58] <OerHeks> kulelu88, on what model lenovo?
[13:58] <kulelu88> T430
[13:58] <kulelu88> OerHeks:
[13:58] <kulelu88> I'm now beginning to wonder if the slot is a dummy slot
[13:59] <swizgard_> OerHeks: i get hash sum mismatch for http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/utopic-security/main/i18n/Translation-en also with no apt-cacher
[14:00] <OerHeks> kulelu88, i found no howto for your model, just this one for x121 https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/x121e-How-to-enable-WWAN-Bluetooth-on-Linux/td-p/668255  maybe it is any help ?
[14:01] <swizgard_> kulelu88: thinkwiki is also a quite good resource
[14:13] <eonbluez> howdy all --- is there a site where I can search across multiple repos for packages?
[14:14] <eonbluez> I need specific versions of ruby and wanted to search for an existing one before I package my own
[14:15] <JunkHunk> hello I need to keep the current kernel version how do I set it as default? system updates wants to install the latest and therefore the current one will be out of grub startup list... preventing me from choosing it
[14:15] <cfhowlett> JunkHunk, false.
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> eonbluez  ruby sits in "main"
[14:16] <cfhowlett> JunkHunk, once you have more than a single kernel, the old kernel is retained is the grub boot options.  just won't be the default option.
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> !info ruby
[14:16] <JunkHunk> cfhowlett,  I am using kubuntu and there are only two to choose from
[14:16] <eonbluez> MonkeyDust: yeah but I want to search for a specific version
[14:16] <eonbluez> in third party repos
[14:16] <eonbluez> the main repo doesnt have the version I need
[14:16] <cfhowlett> JunkHunk, unless you deleted it, it's still there.
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> eonbluez  i guess you'd need an external .deb or a ppa, then
[14:17] <JunkHunk> cfhowlett I am already using an outdated kernel
[14:17] <eonbluez> yeah, i was looking for a way to search those third parties
[14:17] <eonbluez> like a search engine for ppas or something
[14:17] <g105b> Hi guys, I want to use Mutt, and want to pin it to the Unity Launcher, but how do I do this without affecting other terminal windows that are open?
[14:17] <MonkeyDust> eonbluez  any search engine can find it
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> if it exists
[14:18] <OerHeks> eonbluez, search on launchpad, the place for 3th party ppa's.
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> eonbluez  start here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[14:18] <JunkHunk> cfhowlett anyway how do I set a particular kernel as default and is it bad to do it?
[14:19] <cfhowlett> 1JunkHunk, bad?  no.  just not necessary.  but if you insist, edit your grub so that your preferred kernel is the first listed option.
[14:19] <cfhowlett> !grub2
[14:20] <k1l> JunkHunk: kernels on ubuntu get security and bug fixes. you might want to run the latest one ubuntu got in the repos for your release.
[14:20] <ProfMerlin> Hi guys. Liquid Telecoms ubuntu mirror is down. Emailing and speaking to them directly has been useless. Who can I report it to?
[14:21] <k1l> JunkHunk: any reason you want to keep that kernel?
[14:21] <JunkHunk> k1l I see.. I think I ll better use the latest...one reason yes
[14:21] <JunkHunk> k1l mono libraries
[14:22] <JunkHunk> k1l I am using opensimulator and the latest kernel was making opensim mono libraries fatal error crash
[14:23] <JunkHunk> k1l but I think I will try the new one just suggested by update manager and see what happens...
[14:23] <JunkHunk> I was only worried seeing nomore the .46 in the list
[14:23] <k1l> what ubuntu is that exactly?
[14:25] <JunkHunk> kubuntu 14.04.2
[14:30] <baxx> is there any way of displaying recent messages in ubuntu? I had one about VirtualBox pop up (top right of screen) then it vanished before i could read it all
[14:30] <Knight80> Hello everyone
[14:31] <Knight80> Does any of you have some experience with plex media server?
[14:33] <OerHeks> Knight80, plex is not in our repos, there is a #plex channel here on #freenode.
[14:34] <Knight80> OerHeks Thank you very much
[14:38] <splitwire> Doesn't the plex website have a .deb you can download and install?
[14:39] <OerHeks> splitwire, maybe they do.
[14:52] <codeic> hi to all. can I get some info on this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tracker/+bug/1364780 ? It still affects me, even after switching between versions
[14:53] <woodsbw> I am using targetcli to present a LUN over FCoE to a Windows server, using a virtualized HBA on the Windows side. The issue that I am running into is that the virtualized HBA's WWN begins with the character "C", and targetcli keeps rejecting it as an invalid WWN (if I change the "C" at the beginning to a "2", it will allow it.) Any ideas on what can be done to get targetcli to accept this WWN?
[15:00] <javnut> I have an i7-3770 according to cat /proc/cpuinfo but file /sbin/init tells me my cpu is 32 bit
[15:00] <javnut> I thought the i7s were all 64-bit compatible though, what am I missing here?
[15:00] <goddard> was trying to upgrade and my upgrade crashed when trying to remove KDM
[15:07] <Generator_> hi I have this 2 disks http://fpaste.org/210854/42902394/raw/ how to check if they are mounted, how to mount them if not mounted.
[15:09] <k1l> Generator_: "mount" into terminal
[15:10] <k1l> oh, but this is a raid, hmm. i got no experience with raid setups
[15:10] <Generator_> k1l mount says mount: unknown filesystem type 'linux_raid_member'
[15:11] <k1l> Generator_: no, just "mount". not mount /some/stuff /some/other/stuff
[15:12] <Generator_> ok
[15:12] <OerHeks> javnut, what ubuntu are you runningnow, 32 bit ?
[15:12] <Generator_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10822337/ k1l
[15:12] <javnut> OerHeks: yeah
[15:13] <OerHeks> javnut, that explains it, see lscpu for real details.
[15:13] <Generator_> I dont see where those raids are mounted
[15:14] <javnut> OerHeks: yes, that says Op-Mode 32-bit, 64-bit
[15:14] <codeic_>   is there solution to tracker-extract bug?
[15:14] <k1l> Generator_: /dev/md is raid, right?
[15:14] <javnut> so does that mean I can install the 64-bit version of ubuntu?
[15:14] <OerHeks> javnut, sure
[15:14] <javnut> will I get better performance? :o
[15:15] <OerHeks> javnut, with 2gb+ mem yes, your cpu uses more registers and bigger sizes.
[15:15] <Generator_> k1l: they are raid array
[15:15] <javnut> cool. I have something to do then, thanks Heks
[15:16] <OerHeks> have fun
[15:17] <Generator_> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10822380/ what does this mean ?
[15:18] <k1l> Generator_: i dont know that raid stuff. if you use it you should have basic knowledge and know where you can read about
[15:18] <Generator_> yeah :(
[15:21] <MonkeyDust> !raid | Generator_
[15:22] <Generator_> MonkeyDust thank you
[15:22] <MarcGuay> Hi folks.  I'm looking for an equivalent to Notepad++ for Ubuntu.  Any suggestions?  The features that interest me are code highlighting and easy ability to switch file encodings.
[15:23] <codeic_> MarcGuay, try Sublime or Atom
[15:23] <MarcGuay> (Aptana Studio 3 fails miserably at the 2nd)
[15:23] <MarcGuay> codeic_: Thanks
[15:23] <OerHeks> !ide
[15:23] <OerHeks> !editor
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> I found BlueGriffon for HTML coding, on the net, looks neat
[15:25] <MarcGuay> OerHeks: I understand that you mean to be helpful but I asked a specific question and you provided a very general answer.
[15:25] <MarcGuay> So the effect is actually not very helpful.  I do thank you for trying, though.
[15:27] <OerHeks> MarcGuay, there are a lot of extended editors, see which one suits you best.
[15:27] <kunal278> I need help on url rewrite and redirection , can somebody help ?
[15:29] <kunal278> I want to transform /post.php?id=2&title=Another-blog-post to /Another-blog-post.html , what should i put in .htaccess file
[15:29] <pbx> kunal278, this isn't the right channel for that.  go to the channel for your httpd software, e.g. #apache, #nginx
[15:29] <kunal278> i am not able to redirect
[15:36] <junim> oie
[15:37] <junim> ou alguem me ensina a programar
[15:37] <OerHeks> !es | junim
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> !br
[15:38] <lucian_> yoooo, people :D
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> alguien is spanish, alguem is portugese
[15:38] <OerHeks> oh, thank you MonkeyDust
[15:38] <comodo_dragon> has ubuntu 15.04 been released ?
[15:38] <OerHeks> comodo_dragon, no, 27th this month
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> comodo_dragon  two weeks from now
[15:38] <junim> sou novo aqui ajuda
[15:39] <comodo_dragon> ah ,ok. thanks
[15:39] <k1l> junim: stop that, you know that this channel is english only
[15:39] <k1l> !br > junim
[15:40] <laowei123> when i setup an ubuntu server system, that i want to switch to full disk encryption at a later point, would it be best to use lvm or no lvm when installint?
[15:43] <OerHeks> laowei123, lvm is a choise, so is encryption, i think you'll need to reinstall when you do want encryption at a later stage.
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> laowei123  i guess lvm is best for servers, but better ask in #ubuntu-server
[15:45] <john_doe_jr> the desktop will display the background but it will not launch the icons…any ideas who this is happening in ubuntu 14.04?
[15:46] <Dexxstarr> Hey guys, I'm using Win7 and I have a USB 2TB drive that reads fine as a USB device but when plugged into the sata on my PC it reads as a corrupt or raw filesystem. Is this encryption of some sort? I'm going to switch to Ubuntu now that I'm done anyway. Any bets on what will happen?
[15:50] <YvesLevier> Question : Is there a channel to help Windows users for true BUT telling them they are not using a serious OS?
[15:51] <k1l> YvesLevier: that is not a real ubuntu support question. for windows support see ##windows and for questions about channels on freenode ask in #freenode
[15:51] <YvesLevier> k1l: My goal is to promote Linux.
[15:52] <YvesLevier> Non seriously help Wintrick but...
[15:53] <YvesLevier> Look Dexx has a question about win7.  Good occasion to help him to understand he is in a bad contition...
[15:53] <YvesLevier> To think plz
[15:55] <OerHeks> YvesLevier, nice thought, but how do we tell it is encryption or a bad partition ?
[15:56] <kamkazedave> anyone know how to use modules.conf correctly?
[15:56] <hivearts> where to find prepared ubuntu qemu img?
[15:57] <daftykins> kamkazedave: what are you trying to do? load a module at boot?
[15:57] <kamkazedave> i'm trying to suspend b43 and bcma
[15:57] <OerHeks> hivearts, for 14.04 lts > http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/releases/14.04/release/
[15:57] <MonkeyDust> hivearts  consider using vagrant, it has plenty prepared virtualbox images http://www.vagrantbox.es/
[15:58] <kamkazedave> i've tried SUSPEND_MODULES="b43 bcma" and when i do sudo modprobe wl it comes up saying it's a bad line
[15:58] <hivearts> i want to run dokku as my backup production server
[15:58] <hivearts> shouold i can trust vagrant?
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> hivearts  it's a simple way to load virtualbox machines
[15:59] <hivearts> yes, but is it stable and machine hard restart safety?
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> hivearts  the question is, if virtualbox is stable
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> hivearts  vagrant is simply a terminal command
[16:00] <hivearts> so is virtualbox stable as qemu?
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> hivearts  it would not be qemu
[16:01] <hivearts> i know
[16:02] <hivearts> but compared to qemu
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> hivearts  but vagrant loads virtulabox in the background, you then ssh to it in the terminal
[16:02] <hivearts> i know, i use virtualbox already
[16:02] <hivearts> but should i trust to virtualbox as i can trust to qemu?
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> hivearts  i don't see why not
[16:03] <YvesLevier> hivearts: Vbox is stable.  Very.  But not offering all we are used in Linux.  Didnt have time to explore alternatives, but most are telling that this is not the best option.
[16:04] <YvesLevier> Problem is that non opened Vbox is better.  I hate that!
[16:04] <YvesLevier> and dont use
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> hivearts  do you want to use a gui, or a command line? (server)
[16:05] <hivearts> i don't need much options, i just need to have stable VM
[16:05] <hivearts> cli
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> hivearts  then go for vagrant/vbox
[16:05] <Mys7ic> hello
[16:05] <YvesLevier> vagrant?
[16:05] <YvesLevier> hi Mys7
[16:06] <hivearts> ok, thanks
[16:06] <kamkazedave> daftykins you still there?
[16:06] <daftykins> oh yeah
[16:06] <kamkazedave> any idea?
[16:06] <MonkeyDust> hivearts  https://docs.vagrantup.com/v2/
[16:07] <daftykins> kamkazedave: when you say suspend, do you mean you want them to not be loaded?
[16:07] <YvesLevier> MonkeyDust: What is vagrant?
[16:07] <MonkeyDust> YvesLevier  look at the link I just suggested
[16:07] <YvesLevier> on it.  Thx :)
[16:07] <kamkazedave> daftykins: yes
[16:08] <daftykins> kamkazedave: so really you're talking about blacklisting :)
[16:08] <kamkazedave> daftykins: how would I do that?
[16:08] <daftykins> kamkazedave: dunno! plenty of advice online though i'm sure
[16:08] <daftykins> it's written in tonnes of guides
[16:09] <YvesLevier> Vagrant looks great.  Thx again :)
[16:09] <kamkazedave> daftykins: would putting it in blacklist.conf be a better idea?
[16:10] <kamkazedave> daftykins: putting it in as blacklist b43 bcma?
[16:10] <daftykins> kamkazedave: if you want those modules not to load, blacklisting is the way
[16:10] <daftykins> kamkazedave: you're asking me questions about how to do something that i just said i don't know how :D
[16:11] <kamkazedave> daftykins: still helpful, though. I'll reboot trying to blacklist it.
[16:19] <kamkazedave> daftykins: it's now working. Thanks for the help
[16:20] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | daftykins
[16:21] <daftykins> yay \o/
[16:21] <daftykins> om nom nom
[16:29] <Happy1> How do I delete a protected file? because in the process of trying to install drivers for my printer, which failed in the end, a file is on my desktop that I can't delete because it is protected.
[16:29] <lotuspsychje> Happy1: you can try gksu nautilus and delete it
[16:30] <Happy1> what?? sorry I don't understand
[16:31] <SchrodingersScat> !gksu | Happy1
[16:32] <Happy1> so how do I delete the file?
[16:34] <lotuspsychje> Happy1: open a terminal and type gksu nautilus and delete your file from there
[16:35] <Happy1> ok
[16:36] <goddard> how can i install without cd or flash drive?
[16:36] <k1l> goddard: see if you can use the pxe install method
[16:36] <goddard> can i launch that from recovery?
[16:37] <k1l> recovery?
[16:37] <SchrodingersScat> goddard: PXE? could grub2 boot an iso off the hdd.
[16:37] <goddard> yeah my system is messed up just gonna install fresh
[16:37] <kulelu88> does anybody know how to make the internal 3G work on a Lenovo T430?
[16:38] <OerHeks> goddard, why can't you boot off usb??
[16:38] <goddard> dont have any
[16:39] <kulelu88> OerHeks: Is it possible that I need an additional driver for internal 3G ?
[16:40] <OerHeks> kulelu88, not that i know of.
[16:41] <toshiba_> hi, I have a smartphone bq aquarius 4.5E but I can not synchronize with my notebook ubuntu 14:04 , what can I do ?
[16:41] <lotuspsychje> !touch | toshiba_
[16:42] <lotuspsychje> toshiba_: you can install the tools from #ubuntu-touch topic
[16:42] <toshiba_> ok
[16:54] <egypz> hi
[16:54] <egypz> hello
[16:54] <egypz> who are here
[16:55] <egypz>  hello
[16:56] <Voyage> How to restart kde
[16:56] <Voyage> alt + ctrl + backspace does not works
[16:57] <Fuchs> Alt+SysRQ+K, but that's not recommended,
[16:57] <Fuchs> CTRL+ALT+Backspace is unrelated to the desktop in use, also not recommended and got disabled by default
[16:58] <krux> sudo service lightdm restart
[16:58] <Voyage> Fuchs,  that doesnt works either
[16:58] <coffee-> hi i'd like to get 3d acceleration with my radeon r9 270 in 14.04.02
[16:59] <Fuchs> Voyage: probably SysRQ is disabled then, I recommend enabling that.  For now you can switch to a VT hopefully  (CTRL+ALT+F1) and restart the graphical interface
[16:59] <coffee-> i tried to get it working earlier but to no avail
[16:59] <daftykins> coffee-: sure, install AMD drivers then
[16:59] <daftykins> what did you try?
[16:59] <Voyage> Fuchs, CTRL+ALT+F1 willl give me terminal
[16:59] <coffee-> installing amdcccle and drivers
[16:59] <Voyage> I dont what that
[16:59] <Voyage> just restart x
[16:59] <coffee-> didn't work
[17:00]  * genii briefly considers taking "coffee" off his highlight list
[17:00] <coffee-> coffee- <--- with the dash?
[17:00] <daftykins> coffee-: how *specifically*
[17:01] <coffee-> downloaded from amd.com and installed
[17:01] <daftykins> !ati | coffee- follow the guide here
[17:01] <coffee-> i think sh install iirc
[17:01] <coffee-> ok daftykins thank you :D
[17:04] <goddard> http://www.space.com/17933-nasa-television-webcasts-live-space-tv.html
[17:05] <daftykins> goddard: off topic :)
[17:05] <k1l> goddard: please keep this channel for technical support only.
[17:07] <baxx> symlink has no referent: "/home/vco/.config/gitbook-editor/SingletonCookie
[17:07] <baxx> in this context, what does referent mean? That the directory doesn't exist that the link is meant to live in?
[17:08] <Nickiniz> you webmasteR?
[17:08] <Nickiniz> hi
[17:08] <baxx> I'm just trying to back some stuff up... That would make sense as the location the files are being backed up to doesn't have the same absolute path, is there some copy relative version?
[17:09] <daftykins> Nickiniz: do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[17:10] <Nickiniz> daftykins you webmaster?
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> Nickiniz: your in an ubuntu support channel here, what are you trying to find?
[17:12] <Nickiniz> lotuspsychje
[17:13] <Nickiniz> irc Google search bot
[17:13] <daftykins> Nickiniz: you're in the wrong place.
[17:13] <Nickiniz> !Google keywords
[17:13] <Nickiniz> vs
[17:13] <MonkeyDust> Nickiniz  did you have a ubuntu support question?
[17:14] <Nickiniz> thank
[17:16] <niram> hey guys
[17:16] <niram> any idea how to see the currently confiugured nameservers in ubuntu 14.04?
[17:16] <Fuchs> cat /etc/resolv.conf
[17:16] <niram> yeah, right
[17:16] <ki7mt> baxx, use somethign along the lines of:fir i in $@ ; ln -s $(relpath $PWD $(readlink -f $i)) .. do other stuff ; done  ... that should copy relative links, but I've performed a local test fo the command
[17:16] <daftykins> Fuchs: nameserver 127.0.1.0
[17:16] <daftykins> ;)
[17:16] <niram> Fuchs: ubuntu desktop (should have specified) comes default with dnsmasq
[17:17] <Fuchs> bah
[17:17] <ki7mt> whoops .. for i in $@ .. .. .. ; done
[17:17] <Fuchs> well, both dig and nslookup will show which one they used
[17:17] <niram> and i don't know how to see what's configured into dnsmasq via dbus
[17:17] <daftykins> niram: do you want to see or change? because you can set them in network manager if you want to change them (on a desktop the GUI way)
[17:18] <niram> daftykins: i am using network-manager-openvpn
[17:18] <niram> and i am switching vpns a lot
[17:18] <daftykins> and?
[17:18] <niram> and i want to see the current nameservers
[17:18] <niram> see, not change
[17:18] <niram> see what i am currently using
[17:18] <Fuchs> niram: nmcli dev list    does it here
[17:18] <ki7mt> baxx, or a bit easier may be: for i in *; do [ -L $i ] && cd  .. .. ..&& ln -s ../$i $i  .. .. ..cd - ; done
[17:19] <Fuchs> but that's a 14.10
[17:19] <Eduardo> Hello. What is license I need? I want program a library which can't be closeable, but it can be modified and usable by commercial programs, but distributing the modifications of my source.
[17:20] <ki7mt> baxx, you can add the $(readlink ../$i) to identify what the link objects point too as well.
[17:20] <daftykins> Eduardo: ask in #linux - you're off topic for Ubuntu support
[17:20] <niram> Fuchs: nmcli dev list shows the wifi interface dns'es
[17:20] <niram> not the ones pushed by openvpn
[17:20] <niram> nmcli dev list doesn't see tun interfaces
[17:20] <niram> let me rephrase my question
[17:21] <niram> how do i dump dnsmasq current configuration?
[17:21] <niram> the config can be updated on the fly, via dbus
[17:21] <niram> can it also be queried?
[17:21] <niram> isn't it bothering anyone besides me that there is no way to see what nameservers you are currently using? :)
[17:23] <Fuchs> niram: as said, both dig and nslookup should be able to tell,
[17:23] <Fuchs> but I'm checking if there are more sane options
[17:23] <niram> dig and nslookup show 127.0.0.1
[17:24] <niram> that's the nameserver they are using
[17:24] <Fuchs> huh
[17:24] <niram> yes
[17:24] <niram> in resolv.conf there is 127.0.0.1
[17:24] <niram> which is the local dnsmasq
[17:24] <Fuchs> yes, that I do know, just can't reproduce that here, but then I am currently not using VPN
[17:24] <Fuchs> so I don't know how much that adds to your problem
[17:25] <niram> even if i weren't using vpn, there still was no way to see the current config
[17:25] <niram> for example, if i connect to the running dnsmasq via dbus and change nameservers
[17:25] <niram> networkManager would not know
[17:26] <niram> nor would nslookup or dig or anything else
[17:28] <sparr> What can cause top to show 100% user cpu usage with no processes using much cpu? %Cpu(s):100.0 us,  0.0 sy,  0.0 ni,  0.0 id,  0.0 wa,  0.0 hi,  0.0 si,  0.0 st
[17:28] <niram> sparr: D state processes
[17:33] <backbox> hey
[17:33] <backbox> wtf
[17:33] <backbox> is this ?
[17:33] <voyt> qqq
[17:33] <lotuspsychje> !language | backbox
[17:33] <backbox> i'm new
[17:33] <backbox> sory
[17:34] <backbox> just i install this
[17:34] <backbox> black box
[17:34] <OerHeks> backbox, read the topic first, thanks.
[17:34] <backbox> FUCK YOU BITCH
[17:34] <MonkeyDust> aha
[17:40] <Kully3xf> Hey all - I can't ssh with a user I used to be able too, verified that all the .ssh and authorized keys are correct, with correct permissions. I get software caused connection abort
[17:40] <Kully3xf> any idea's where to look?
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> !ssh | Kully3xf
[17:41] <Eduard_Munteanu> Kully3xf, could be a firewall issue
[17:41] <Kully3xf> nah aws - I can connect from the same machine with another user
[17:41] <albert> Россия есть?
[17:41] <pavlos> !ru | albert
[17:45] <jason_> If I run something that starts using a lot of memory (like, to the point where it might be swapping) things grind to a complete halt and I can't interrupt the program. Is there a way to fix this?
[17:45] <beachbuddah> morning folks - I'm stuck with a recovery/reinstall issue
[17:46] <beachbuddah> Using a live USB version of trusty I have installed on both an extra partition on my hdd as well as an external drive
[17:46] <daftykins> fire away with an explanation on one line and someone can attempt to help you :)
[17:46] <beachbuddah> when booting now from either (after adjusting the bios) I get OS Not FOund errors
[17:47] <jason_> Oh what the hell. I think I found the problem. I don't have a swap partition.
[17:47] <daftykins> jason_: sounds about right
[17:48] <beachbuddah> I really am trying to avoid a reinstall on my main hdd partition - all my good junk is there (encrypted home folder - oops) but I am arriving at the idea that my version on the live USB could be corrupt?
[17:48] <jason_> I have no idea how that happened.
[17:48] <hetakuso> How do you change the session? Either user or default.
[17:48] <beachbuddah> ok - a bit more than 1 line but there it is - any help?
[17:48] <daftykins> hetakuso: login screen
[17:49] <hetakuso> daftykins: OOH, it's the ubuntu icon... would not have guess that
[17:49] <hetakuso> daftykins: thanks!
[17:49] <daftykins> np
[17:50] <Eightynine> Hi. I have installed Xubuntu extras, but now I have bad fonts in browser. Also I have Fluxbox and I can't find any browser in it's menu though I have Chrome and Firefox.
[17:52] <Eightynine> http://pastebin.com/y4cCqqMi is this correct?
[17:53] <OerHeks> Eightynine, IIRC you had bad font rendering before xubuntu-extra's too, is it worse now? or is this because you installed/removed so many DE's ?
[17:53] <Eightynine> They haven't change in system but they became worst in browser.
[17:54] <Eightynine> I think I need Infinality.
[17:56] <OerHeks> !rootirc | Guest63514
[17:57] <kulelu88> is there an easier/better solution to this issue of making an internal sim-card work on a Lenovo laptop: https://randomproblem.wordpress.com/2013/03/17/howto-umts-wwan-on-lenovo-thinkpad-x201-using-ubuntu-12-04/
[17:57] <kulelu88> ??
[18:01] <Eightynine> What about that pastebin link?
[18:03] <OerHeks> Eightynine, what are you trying to remove?
[18:03] <OerHeks> that part is missing
[18:04] <Eightynine> I typed sudo apt-get autoremove after removing Gnome, MATE and LXDE and got that list.
[18:05] <k1l> Eightynine: then you know why it wants to remove that.
[18:05] <OerHeks> Eightynine, that would be oke, those packages arent in use then.
[18:05] <Eightynine> Thanks, I'll try to confirm that.
[18:06] <OerHeks> maybe it breaks your system, i cannot tell, these things occur when adding and removing DE's. but in this situation, autoremove only gives unused packages.
[18:06] <ars23> hi, does anyone know why pppoeconf give the error: cannot find concentrator on eth0?
[18:07] <kulelu88> how do I check if wwan is supported on ubuntu?
[18:07] <kulelu88> a way to confirm if the hardware exists
[18:11] <OerHeks> kulelu88, in this model, you need to enable it in your bios > http://lenovoipad.blogspot.co.at/2011/02/how-to-enable-3g-sim-card-in-lenovo.html in yours too ??
[18:12] <junction4> hi all. I'm trying to understand the UsePAM option when configuring sshd so that password based logins are disabled. A lot of info on the web suggests that this should be set to "No" but is it correct that if PasswordAuthentication and  ChallengeResponseAuthentication are disabled, UsePAM is effectively not used and can stay set to Yes?
[18:12] <OerHeks> kulelu88, then from this page: rfkill list # does it show wwan ? https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/x121e-How-to-enable-WWAN-Bluetooth-on-Linux/td-p/668255
[18:13] <baxx> does anyone use rsnapshot?
[18:13] <ianorlin> junction4: If password authentiacation is set to no then you can't login over ssh with passwords
[18:13] <baxx> I'm just wondering if I'm going to run into issues editing the conf file with an editor that replaces tabs with spaces
[18:15] <kulelu88> Following your instructions OerHeks . Brb
[18:16] <junction4> ianorlin: okay, so the UsePAM option can safely be left as set to Yes as it is in the default Ubuntu sshd config?
[18:16] <stanmcm> Hello!  I have a friend asking for my help.  He has a web server that has been compromised.  It's been sending DoS attacks across the internet.  I'm wondering if making a backup of the website's source code and transferring to a new system is the best approach.
[18:17] <dsmos> Anyone think it'd be safe to tri boot Niresh and Windows along with Ubuntu?
[18:17] <stanmcm> The site is programmed heavily in python.  I'm worried that the DoS code could be hidden inside the website's source.  Any ideas?
[18:19] <Osmodivs> Hello. Wich PPA Nvidia driver do you guys recommend? I do not need a bleeding edge driver, but a stable one, there is NVIDIA Binary Driver Updates and
[18:19] <Osmodivs> X Updates
[18:19] <splitwire> stanmcm - I think you would run the real posibility that the botnet or whatever it is would be in the source code or at least the www directory someplace
[18:20] <splitwire> was there not a backup someplace else?
[18:20] <splitwire> prior to the the DoS attacks?
[18:20] <k1l> Osmodivs: if you dont need bleeding edge why not use the ubuntu one?
[18:20] <ki7mt> stanmcm, best thing to do is shut it down, and do a source code validation, then validate the sever software also.
[18:20] <stanmcm> The attacker is a previous dev who became irate.  Had root access.  Compromised the backups.
[18:21] <stanmcm> Thanks guys.  That's what I needed to know.  I think I'm in over my head trying to help my friend.  :(
[18:21] <ki7mt> stanmcm, Thats easy, disable root access, enable SSK Key access only, change the keys.
[18:22] <ki7mt> .. SSH Keys ..
[18:22] <stanmcm> ki7mt, Access is no longer the problem.  Tracking down the code is.  The owner took control with the help of their host.
[18:23] <ki7mt> stanmcm, Well, in almost all cases, unless the dude is a serious hacker, there's a trail, e.g. log in dates etc, use those dates for the compromise time reference and work backwards from there.
[18:25] <stanmcm> ki7mt, Thank you.  I'll do my best.  I think my real problem is going to be the fact that I'm not a pro programmer.  Even if I figure out which files were changed I won't know what to look for in the code.  :(  I was hoping that I wouldn't have to worry about the code.  lol
[18:26] <Eightynine> After removing those packages my system lost network connection, I can't even open my router's interface.
[18:26] <ki7mt> stanmcm, That can be an issue. If the site is mostly Python, then obviously one needs to be Python literate. Off site "secure" incremental backups would have saved you here.
[18:27] <stanmcm> ki7mt, I wish I had setup this system.  That's exactly what I would have done.  All too common of a situation.  Business man set this system up.
[18:28] <ioria> Eightynine, i think router interface is indipendent from the system
[18:28] <ki7mt> stanmcm, Yeah, it's a lesson nobody wants to learn the hard way, but all to often, that is how it goes.
[18:29] <Eightynine> Yes, it has web interface. I booted my Windows 7 in order to connect to this channel and ask how to fix that issue.
[18:30] <ioria> Eightynine, which issue ?
[18:30] <k1l> Eightynine: you installed all desktop packages. so you need to install the stuff you want now manually. like networkmanager and stuff
[18:30] <k1l> Eightynine: * you removed
[18:30] <Eightynine> I have no internet connection at all.
[18:31] <Eightynine> I had the same problem in Salix OS and somehow I launched network connection by typing command in terminal but I don't remember it. Is there any way to do the same in Ubuntu?
[18:31] <compdoc> Eightynine, have you added or removed network cards?
[18:31] <ioria> Eightynine, i suppose yours hasn't been a regular setup ...
[18:32] <comodo_dragon> im using ubuntu 15.04 beta and is awesome and fast too. good job guys
[18:32] <k1l> Eightynine: that is correct. you removed all networkmanager etc.
[18:32] <bprompt> Eightynine:    http://blog.tplus1.com/blog/2008/06/13/how-to-connect-to-a-wireless-network-from-the-ubuntu-command-line/
[18:32] <k1l> Eightynine: so what is the issue now? you removed all desktop-pakcages that removed their preinstalled stuff like networkmanager too.
[18:33] <Eightynine> No, I just removed all packages using apt-get autoremove copied list to pastebin and asked guys here if that was correct and they said that all is correct. I confirmed uninstallation and my system lost connection.
[18:33] <k1l> Eightynine: so you are on a very limited minimal version now and you need to choose the packages you want to install.
[18:33] <Jeeves_Moss> what is the /dev/ device that the raspberry pi camera module attach to?
[18:34] <k1l> Eightynine: no, you wanted to get rid of stuff that uninstalls other stuff that is "not needed" anymore. that is what people here confirmed.
[18:34] <bprompt> Jeeves_Moss:    you could take a quick peek at -> sudo fdisk -l  <--- see where it shows
[18:34] <Osmodivs> Hello. Wich PPA Nvidia driver do you guys recommend? I do not need a bleeding edge driver, but a stable one, there is NVIDIA Binary Driver Updates and
[18:34] <Osmodivs> X Updates
[18:34] <ars23> on a pi b+ I have problems with pppoeconf. it says cannot find concentrator on eth0. what should i do?
[18:34] <Eightynine> pppoeconf? I'll try this.
[18:35] <k1l> Eightynine: you want to do expert stuff. so do the reading and thinking. you didnt like the mainstream user stuff that doesnt require auser to do that work.
[18:35] <Eightynine> Yes, but maybe networkmanager was in that list?
[18:36] <k1l> Eightynine: did you check that list? (yes it was in that list)
[18:36] <k1l> Eightynine: you want to manually choose the configuration so do it.
[18:37] <Eightynine> And how can I fixed that? I'm on ADSL and my router is needed for PC, tablet and smartphone.
[18:37] <Eightynine> Fix that.
[18:37] <k1l> this is your router?
[18:37] <Eightynine> Yes, ADSL modem router.
[18:37] <k1l> you installed ubuntu on your router?
[18:37] <Eightynine> No, on my PC
[18:38] <k1l> so that doesnt relate do ubuntu anyhow
[18:39] <Eightynine> We understood that package manager removed networkmanager. How can I connect my system to internet to install it again?
[18:39] <k1l> Eightynine: put a lan cable in it?
[18:40] <Eightynine> Cable is connected but network doesn't work at all but I can connect to internet only using Windows on that PC or connect smartphone or tablet to that router via Wi-Fi.
[18:42] <ioria> Eightynine, if ifconfig is blank, start with  lspci, or lshw, then check lspci -k for your drivers
[18:42] <Eightynine> I checked if my network adapter is recognized. Seems like it works, so driver is installed?
[18:43] <ioria> Eightynine, also, sudo ifup eth0, etc., etc..
[18:43] <Eightynine> It doesn't work. Tried that.
[18:43] <ioria> Eightynine, so what's your ethernet card ?
[18:44] <Eightynine> Realtek GBE series.
[18:44] <Eightynine> Integrated adapter.
[18:45] <ioria> Eightynine, lspci -k | grep Ethernet ?
[18:45] <Eightynine> I'll check it now. Rebooting.
[18:46] <Guest92217> hi, i just installed monkey server on 14.02 using apt-get.  however, its not listed in /bin directory. where is it and ow do i start it?
[18:47] <yorwos> i want to edit my lightdm.conf file so i disable my automatic login , this is now http://pastebin.com/Z6uRQ22J , should i delete everything excpept the first line ? or leave timeout and session inside also ?
[18:48] <Eightynine> Realtek RTL8111
[18:49] <Eightynine> What's next?
[18:50] <ioria>  lspci -k | grep Ethernet  -A 4
[18:50] <MotherMGA1> hello, I have a laptop with a GeForce 840M and Intel Integrated graphics. I'd like to use the intel chip primarily, and have it switch to nvidia for games, it doesn't seem to work.  Do I need to install the proprietary nvidia driver as well as bumblebee, or just bumblebee? Are there any guides to configuring this to work?
[18:50] <Eightynine> r8169
[18:51] <ki7mt> Guest92217, http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/amd64/monkey/filelist
[18:51] <yorwos> mother , in my old desktop each card mobo + gpu had seperate cable for the monitor
[18:51] <ioria> Eightynine, the driver in use is r8169                  ?
[18:51] <Eightynine> Yes
[18:52] <ioria> Eightynine, ifconfig ?
[18:52] <manh_> yorwos: just delete your user's name at line 2
[18:52] <Eightynine> Loopback running
[18:52] <ki7mt> Guest92217, So the binary location is not /bin rather /usr/bin/monkey should be the right location
[18:52] <yorwos> its logging in as the final line
[18:52] <Guest92217> thanks, but although it tells me its installed, its not in /usr/bin
[18:52] <ioria> Eightynine, no eth0 ?
[18:53] <yorwos> i mean its logging as ofoto
[18:53] <manh_> oh, delete one of two, and keep other null
[18:53] <MotherMGA1> yorwos: I believe this uses the nvidia-prime architecture, where the nvidia is just a 3d processor that delegates the signal processing to the intel chip
[18:53] <Eightynine> Only inet and inet6
[18:53] <manh_> http://pastebin.com/PXX0QDAN
[18:53] <manh_> just like this
[18:54] <yorwos> so i should just delete my final line ?
[18:54] <ioria> Eightynine, i think you have to configure by hand /etc/network/interface ... then when you have connectivity you can reintall NetworkManager
[18:55] <Eightynine> Thanks. How to do that?
[18:55] <manh_> yep, just keep one of theme
[18:55] <yorwos> im rebooting brb
[18:56] <ki7mt> Guest92217, The try: which monkey  or locate monkey  .. it may be in /usr/local/bin is you built it from source or something.
[18:56] <ki7mt> .. then try:
[18:56] <ioria> Eightynine, sudo nano interface ... and write your configuration - IP, Gateway, SUBmask, dns... etc.   look here :http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Trusty_Networking#Manual_configuration_from_the_command-line
[18:57] <ioria> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Trusty_Networking#Manual_configuration_from_the_command-line
[18:58] <Eightynine> My IP is dynamic
[18:58] <ioria> Eightynine, ^
[18:58] <ioria> dhcp then
[18:59] <Eightynine> It says not found
[18:59] <ioria> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[19:00] <ioria> Eightynine, the other link below
[19:00] <Eightynine> Command not found
[19:00] <ioria> Eightynine, what command ?
[19:00] <Eightynine> Where can I find said?
[19:00] <ioria> said ?
[19:01] <goose> !help
[19:01] <twiler> Hey guys, I need help with setting up thunderbird, so, I'm just gonna lay it out all at once: So, I downloaded a file called "thunderbird-31.6.0.tar.bz2", and I opened it with archive manager, but, then what? I don't understand linux in that there is almost never an "executable" filed, which drives me bonkers! I don't know if it installed anything, or not! Please help me!
[19:03] <splitwire> twiler - why don't you just download it through the repo or download the .deb file and install
[19:03] <Eightynine> iface command not found. Where can I find ssid?
[19:03] <compdoc> Eightynine, sounds like you removed too much. might as well reinstall
[19:04] <Eightynine> I wanted to write ssid but autocorrect wrote said
[19:04] <splitwire> twiler: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ubuntuzilla/files/mozilla/apt/pool/main/t/thunderbird-mozilla-build/
[19:04] <ars23> @Eightynine, maybe a reinstall should help you... in future, I recommend to save the list of software that is proposed by OS for uninstalling...
[19:04] <ki7mt> twiler, Why not use the repo version of TBird, it's what I uses, seems to work well.
[19:05] <Harry> twiler: simple way to get thunderbird is through the Software Center
[19:05] <twiler> OK, thanks a lot guys!
[19:05] <Eightynine> Is there any Ubuntu builds with Fluxbox?
[19:05] <ki7mt> twiler, And secondly, that is a source tarball, you need to compile it for use, which may not be straight forward.
[19:06] <ars23> twiller from software center is the easy way. if you download the sources from internet you have to compile them... (./configure && make && make install)
[19:06] <twiler> Ohh so, that's why there isn't "a file" that can be clicked?
[19:07] <ki7mt> +1
[19:07] <Eightynine> No way to repair network on my system?
[19:07] <ars23> yes, that's why... only if you get .deb files, that are packaged software, that can be installed with a double click or dpkg -i name.deb
[19:08] <ars23> eightynine, i understand from the conversation that you uninstalled some software and maybe between that software was network manager or dhcp...
[19:08] <Eightynine> And no way to fix it?
[19:08] <Harry> twiler: but if you're a new user, I highly recommend sticking to the Software Center and repos for now
[19:09] <ars23> if you don't know what you uninstalled, the simplest way is to reinstall os...
[19:09] <ki7mt> ars23, I would not recommend dpkg as it does nto resolve dependencies, gdebi is a much better solution for .deb's or better yet, : sudo apt-get install thunderbird  ; would be best.
[19:09] <Untitled> hello
[19:09] <ars23> ki7mt i agree with you
[19:09] <Eightynine> Thanks for help. Download Xubuntu iso or what?
[19:10] <twiler> @Harry: Yes I am a new user, and I will be sticking to the main channels. I only wish I could get openbazaar running well, and I'd be good to go, lol!!
[19:10] <ioria> Eightynine, try wtfayd
[19:10] <ars23> what OS you want! ubuntu, xubuntu, lubuntu, kubuntu... the difference between them is the desktop environment
[19:11] <Eightynine> I don't like any DE.
[19:11] <ki7mt> Eightynine, short asnwer, yes yuo cna repair you Network, easily, maybe not. Re: which ISO, whatever you like, but with the main Ubuntu ISO, you can install whichever DE you prefer.
[19:11] <yorwos> it seems my system was autologing as account1 and then changed to autologin2 which can explain why my boot times were raised !
[19:11] <ki7mt> .. you can repair ..
[19:11] <yorwos> i remover both lines to work properly
[19:12] <ki7mt> Eightynine, IN the case of "no DE", install the ubuntu server then, go from there.
[19:12] <ars23> ki7mt i saw your answer, but for example if you install lubuntu on your machine, you can after that migrate to kde or xfce... right?
[19:13] <ioria> i tried gnome with   lubuntu
[19:14] <ki7mt> ars23, Yes, I believe all the DE's are availble in all the distro's, however, depending on what you use as the base ISO will determine the default DE installation ; e.g. Kubuntu ya get KDE DE, Lubuntu you get LXDE etc.
[19:14] <ioria> i think xfce4 io ok too... kde i'm not sure
[19:14] <ars23> yes, that's true...
[19:14] <ki7mt> That would be Xubuntu them
[19:14] <splitwire> I have used Ubuntu as the base and used many different DE
[19:15] <splitwire> some work better than others but I'm sure the issues I had were either hardware related or I did not properly install all the depend.
[19:15] <ars23> ioria, as I know, kde needs some resources... it's a nice DE... lightweight are xfce and lxde...
[19:15] <ioria> sure
[19:15] <k1l> splitwire: yes, that is fine if you know what you are doing. but just deleting stuff and wondering why nothing works is not going to work. like we saw.
[19:16] <ki7mt> yeah shat he said ^^ not a good idea for long term use
[19:16] <ki7mt> .. what
[19:17] <ars23> question: pppoe gives me "could not find concentrator on eth0".  did someone know something about this error? one week ago it worked perfectly but now it doesn't
[19:17] <ki7mt> This is a nice overview of the 8 primary DE's: http://www.howtogeek.com/163154/linux-users-have-a-choice-8-linux-desktop-environments/
[19:19] <Eightynine> Which Ubuntu build is most stable?
[19:19] <genii> !lts
[19:19] <k1l> Eightynine: they are all the same base. its just the preinstalled desktop with their prefered software.
[19:19] <ki7mt> Eightynine, The back end is all the same, but the primary DE's are all heavily tested for each release.
[19:19] <splitwire> k11, I did a lot of the DE stuff in a VM so I could just set it back; it was back when I distro-hopped a lot so I used VMs a lot.
[19:20] <genii> Eightynine: Trusty Tahr
[19:21] <k1l> splitwire: yes, that sounds like a good testing setup.
[19:21] <ki7mt> One world of caution, if your a python3-numpy developer, the Cinnamon DE installs python-numpy ( Py2.7 version), you'll need to be careful there.
[19:21] <ki7mt> ... word ..
[19:21] <Eightynine> LXDE is buggy, XFCE is unusable, MATE is slow on my system, Gnome is crap, KDE is huge and confusing.
[19:21] <MonkeyDust> and Eightynine doesnt like anything
[19:21] <faust> Eightynine: bash is the way
[19:22] <pavlos> Eightynine, CLI
[19:22] <Eightynine> I tired of being distro and DE hopper and system killer.
[19:22] <k1l> Eightynine: its again your rantings? please do a blog
[19:22] <ki7mt> Eightynine, I QA Test Lubuntu ISO installs, to say it's buggy is not really accurate.
[19:22] <ars23> eightynine: who needs DE? just a basic one and the holly terminal
[19:22] <MonkeyDust> Eightynine  nobody forces you to distrohop
[19:22] <Eightynine> I don't blame you.
[19:22] <k1l> Eightynine: if you have specific issues come here and people will help fix them. but you just keep on ranting and blindly deleteing stuff that makes everything worse
[19:22] <splitwire> the more I use linux the more I like being in the CLI
[19:23] <ars23> me to splitwire...
[19:23] <ki7mt> CLI rules !! :-)
[19:23] <Eightynine> Yes, I agree with you. Some tools are either slow or buggy or something else.
[19:23] <k1l> Eightynine: last time now: stop it!
[19:23] <splitwire> plus it's just cool to throw open a terminal and do your work
[19:24] <dust> Eightynine, whats buggy at lxde?
[19:24] <ars23> or why gnome is a crap?
[19:24] <ki7mt> Eightynine, You have more than ample chose for a Linux distros, if your unhappy with one, there's Hundreds to choose from.
[19:24] <MonkeyDust> dust  he doesnt want to be helped, just want to rant
[19:24] <k1l> he doesnt know. he deletese stuff and wonders that nothing works anymore. so please lets stick to actual ubuntu support issues in here
[19:25] <dust> well i agree that gnome is crap as u cant even position the taskbar as u want
[19:25] <ki7mt> You can, to a degree
[19:26] <Eightynine> First time I used Lubuntu I didn't like it's look and feel. LXDE has a bug in it's panel which causes artefacts or wallpaper disappears from desktop and installs like a background in panel. LXDE works worst in Fedora but speaking about LXDE in Ubuntu, maybe that's because of conflicts in DE.
[19:26] <hit> Hello, I've buy a ssd hard drive to install on an old laptop model Packard bell MZ35. However I cannot install lubuntu on it, it stucks and keep repeiting the same messages: http://pastebin.com/J71UhuBi   I've test the hard drive on my desktop and works perfect but I cant make it on the laptop. How can I fix it?
[19:26] <ioria> long live  Torvalds
[19:27] <ki7mt> Without all the variants, Linux would be just another version of Windows OS, that's one of the many things that make Linux such a great OS, the diversity.
[19:28] <Jordan_U> hit: It may be a problem with your SATA cables / controller in the laptop. Does another drive work in the same slot in that laptop?
[19:28] <dust> Eightynine, try lubuntu... lxde works fine there without the problems u mentioned
[19:28] <hit> Jordan_U: yes, the old drive works fine but is not ssd
[19:28] <ki7mt> For the purist, Linux is just the Kernel, the rest is GNU/Linux ;-)
[19:28] <Eightynine> What I like about LXDE is that it's compact and has pretty good programms. XFCE has totally unusable file manager and a bit bloated.
[19:29] <Eightynine> dust
[19:29] <Eightynine> dust is it looks modern?
[19:29] <ki7mt> Eightynine, Then install Lubuntu if that is what you like.
[19:29] <dust> use xfe or spacefm as filemanager... both are double pane style... so for poweruser.... if u prefer terminal use mc
[19:30] <Eightynine> I like SpaceFM.
[19:30] <dust> form follows function... the look is how u make it look
[19:31] <ki7mt> Eightynine, here ya go, it's bit dates, but if you wnat to change the FM, a few more options: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/06/daily-5-5-alternative-file-managers
[19:31] <ki7mt> .. it's a bit dated ..
[19:31] <dust> and a piece of shit in the best looking environment is still a piece of shit...
[19:32] <Eightynine> I'm watching Lubuntu review maybe I'll like it this time.
[19:32] <dust> it depends what u want
[19:32] <Eightynine> Seems like it changed since I used it first time.
[19:33] <ki7mt> Eightynine, Lubuntu is about to become LXQT .. a QT DE, based on RazorQT .. it's going to be nice.
[19:33] <dust> when did u use it?
[19:33] <Eightynine> I think it was 10.10 or 12.04
[19:34] <ars23> in 10.10 i loved mate... i think that was the DE...
[19:34] <dust> well that worked good as i used that in past too... but have a look at an actual lubuntu if u like a lightweight ubuntu
[19:35] <ki7mt> Mate is nice, if you like the Gnome2 style DE .. I just don't care for Green :-)
[19:35] <genii> Learn the command line and then it doesn't matter what DE you use
[19:36] <dust> if u like lxqt u can also try siduction... debian sid as rolling distro
[19:36] <ars23> yes, gnome2 i think is quite ok, gnome3... not on my taste...
[19:37] <dust> genii, command line and de cant be compared... its for totally different things and users
[19:37] <Eightynine> I don't trust to some distros. Had problems installing Crunchbang for example.
[19:38] <Eightynine> When they change LXDE to LXQT in Lubuntu?
[19:38] <ki7mt> Eightynine, DO you have a support question ? if not, should probably take this to #ubuntu-offtopic .. not being rude, just say'en
[19:39] <dust> best u ask that in #lubuntu
[19:39] <ki7mt> Eightynine, Have a brows of the release notes: http://lubuntu.net/blog
[19:40] <ars23> guys, just asking! know some software to configure a dsl connection from command line? but not pppoe... it seems that it gives segfault on my machine...
[19:40] <Eightynine> My questions are what DE to choose and can I repair my system. How can I install system to make it work with BIOS and UEFI?
[19:40] <bazhang> Eightynine, we cannot choose for you
[19:40] <ki7mt> Eightynine, in particular, 15.04: Beta 1 Highlights LXQt is still in development, so Vivid Vervet is another bug fix release.
[19:41] <ioria> ffmpeg  is coming back with vivid i heard
[19:41] <bazhang> Eightynine, for an easy fix, your system is way beyond that point
[19:41] <dust> Eightynine, best u download several and try it in vbox
[19:41] <ki7mt> Eightynine, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[19:42] <k1l> Eightynine: either read and learn a lot or reduce your amount of demands
[19:42] <bazhang> !info ffmpeg vivid
[19:42] <ioria> yeah
[19:42] <bazhang> ioria, smplayer with mpv backing will do most all of that with ease as well
[19:43] <imbezol> isn't avconv the replacement?
[19:43] <bazhang> not to mention avconv
[19:43] <ioria> bazhang,  i'll try, thanx
[19:43] <bazhang> libav-tools that is
[19:43] <imbezol> a lot of how-to documentation is for ffmpeg though, not avconv
[19:43] <bazhang> yep
[19:44] <k1l> iirc they found a way to handle libav-tools and ffmpeg in debian now. so ubuntu can ship both too
[19:44] <imbezol> that said, ffmpeg is easy enough to install in any release
[19:44] <bazhang> and of course handbrake
[19:44] <k1l> libavtools works with most howtos for ffmpeg anyway
[19:44] <ki7mt> imbezol, may be relevant: https://libav.org/avconv.html
[19:44] <imbezol> the switches are quite different
[19:45] <bazhang> not too steep a curve though
[19:47] <dreamon> using ubuntu 14.10 cinnamon, how can i change background lamp intensity from notebook.? keys dont work
[19:49] <Eightynine> Why it was removed?
[19:49] <Eightynine> Seems like Lubuntu became much better. I'll try it. Is there any way to install Ubuntu on SSD and after replacing PC just connect it to new motherboard with UEFI? Will it work?
[19:50] <Jordan_U> Eightynine: UEFI changes things a little with regard to installing to removable devices. If you want a drive to be bootable on any machine you plug it into you need to run "sudo grub-install --removable". Also, if you have proprietary drivers installed they can often make moving from one machine to another problematic, but you can just remove all proprietary drivers before changing to the new machine.
[19:52] <Eightynine> Thanks.
[19:53] <pgunnars> how come i cant execute executables that are in PATH env?
[19:53] <ars23> open a terminal and type theyr name...
[19:53] <k1l> pgunnars: are the files itselv +x?
[19:53] <pgunnars> thats the cant part of the question bruv
[19:53] <k1l> did you relogin to get the path loaded?
[19:53] <pgunnars> just listed path
[19:53] <ki7mt> pgunnars, can you give us an example of what not running?
[19:54] <Eightynine> 14.04.2 is the latest version?
[19:54] <ki7mt> es
[19:54] <pgunnars> uhhhhhh, just by listing env variables, it works now, watttttttttttttt
[19:54] <ki7mt> Yes
[19:55] <pgunnars> nope, nvm, repeatedly making a typo, well played
[19:57] <Eightynine> Will Ctrl-Shift work good in Lubuntu?
[19:58] <Apachez> http://www.nasa.tv/ T minus 13min and counting.... spacex...
[19:58] <bazhang> Eightynine, to do what
[19:58] <bazhang> Apachez, wrong channel for that
[19:58] <Eightynine> To switch keyboard layout.
[19:59] <bazhang> Eightynine, what have you tried so far
[19:59] <Eightynine> I'm downloading image.
[19:59] <bazhang> Eightynine, you wish to know commands before even installing?
[20:00] <Olanzapin> Hello! I have som trubble on ubuntu 14.04. I have been messing with compiz. My problem is that i cant get the water effect to work. I have tryed the super+ctrl but nothing happens.
[20:00] <EriC^> Olanzapin: it's super + f9 or something
[20:01] <Olanzapin> does not work
[20:01] <Eightynine> Yes. I'm usually using Ctrl-Shift to change layout and I found information that only Super and Spacebar or Caps Lock works.
[20:01] <bazhang> Eightynine, please get an install first, then we can help you with any issues you may have
[20:02] <Olanzapin> HAVE INSTALLED IT
[20:02] <arcsky> what do you guys recommend ansible or puppet or chef?
[20:02] <Olanzapin> opps
[20:05] <ki7mt> arcsky, there's a couple sites that do a comparison that I found: [ http://www.infoworld.com/article/2609482/data-center/data-center-review-puppet-vs-chef-vs-ansible-vs-salt.html ] and [https://devopsu.com/books/taste-test-puppet-chef-salt-stack-ansible.html] I don't have direct exposure to all to suggest one over another.
[20:06] <Kb52> Does anyone know of an irc channel to discuss xscreensaver?
[20:07] <rypervenche> Kb52: ##linux maybe? Depends on what the question is.
[20:09] <ki7mt> Kb52, also, maybe: #xorg and #xorg-devel  maybe even #intel-gfx if appropriate, but as rypervenche said, depends on the issue I suppose.
[20:09] <wafflej0ck> arcsky, haven't used any of them so don't have an opinion but I have used Vagrant, what's the extra benefit of those three?
[20:10] <wafflej0ck> oh sorry didn't see ki7mt response there
[20:10] <Kb52> Well then the question is simply, does anyone have a list of the screensavers that are unstable in xscreensaver? Example, if I pick PacMan it sometimes crashes, and Ubuntu wants to submit error reports. Or is it a sign I need to reload the package?
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> Kb52: why not just turn the screen off. Power saver...
[20:11] <Kb52> Yes I already disabled it.
[20:12] <Kb52> Its more about having to deal with 200 of them and to determine which ones are crashing and which ones are not, and just to want to remove all the ones. How do you remove individual xscreensaver modules?
[20:14] <Kb52> I am sure eventually JWZ will take them out of the distro, and/or improve the configuration program to have built in add/remove functions. But for now, its to have to manually remove the ones you dont want, and how to add in the ones you do.
[20:15] <wafflej0ck> arcsky, yeah so read through that article, seems all of these are more geared towards ongoing management of lots of servers, Vagrant is just to help setup virtual machines basically but might still be of interest I use it for setting up temporary development servers that are a close match to our real deployment environment
[20:16] <Olanzapin> Anyone got Steam to install on Ubuntu 14.04 64Bit?
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> Olanzapin: I'd imagine many
[20:16] <Kb52> Beyond this dumb issue it is all good, and everything else is running silky smooth. I am learning what GUI stuff is out there to make Ubuntu easier, and what to avoid to keep it running stable.
[20:16] <Olanzapin> misssing some 32 libs
[20:16] <wafflej0ck> Olanzapin, yup works fine here
[20:17] <ki7mt> Olanzapin, you need to add i386 arch's I believe.
[20:17] <Olanzapin> hmm 64bit?
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> Olanzapin: hmm yes Ubuntu 14.04 64 bit steam install: http://youtu.be/bRS6doHshwc
[20:17] <Kb52> I had Steam but beyond a few very old games, nothing on it was of much value to me.  For the windows games I want to play, I use VirtualBox and Windows XP. Its easier.
[20:17] <wafflej0ck> yup 64bit OS don't really recall doing anything special honestly
[20:18] <wafflej0ck> there's a good chunk of stuff on there now
[20:18] <wafflej0ck> was playing BioShock infinite last night, the finally released that port, it's good from what I can tell
[20:19] <Kb52> Yeah but you need the original software to play many things on Steam, so in the Windows world it makes sense but not much in the Linux world. The one nice game I did find for Linux I gave up on.
[20:19] <ki7mt> Olanzapin, Just found this also: http://linuxg.net/steam-for-linux-finally-made-64-bit-system-compatible/
[20:20] <joe__> hi kim
[20:20] <joe__> hi how do i turn on mf wifi
[20:20] <Kb52> Anyhow does anyone here use xscreensaver and have thoughts on it?
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> joe__: what WiFi chip are you using?
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> Kb52: I use it but set it to none, lots easier
[20:23] <EriC^> Kb52: the login screen is ugly
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[20:23] <EriC^> i dont use it though
[20:23] <Kb52> joe__ Some notebooks have a slide switch, others a FN key combination, some have special buttons that turn it on and off, with an indicator.
[20:25] <zerowaitstate> Kb52: screensavers are a relic from before monitors supported power saving. they're a waste of resources
[20:26] <genii> LED screens actually use less juice when they are lit up white than when they are black
[20:26] <zerowaitstate> yeah, and they use even less when they are not lit at all
[20:27] <Eightynine> Modern monitors use not much energy. Even IPS.
[20:28] <Kb52> no its not power management. Screensaver is just eye candy. But I want all the eye candy. Compiz is the other eye candy. xscreensaver is the best one of the 3 choices. Sorry I like eye candy.
[20:29] <Eightynine> Why not replace Compiz with Compton or Compiz developed by Canonical?
[20:29] <Kb52> xscreensaver isnt being used to turn off my monitor, although it can. But Ubuntu already has all that.
[20:29] <k1l> Eightynine: that makes no sense.
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> Kb52: kwin can do a lot of 3D (waste of resources) eye candy
[20:29] <EriC^> Kb52: did you change the login screen
[20:29] <Kb52> It already has Canonical
[20:30] <EriC^> that screen on fire thing put me off
[20:30] <EriC^> the pacman screensaver was pretty cool, as the analog tv thing
[20:30] <EriC^> and a couple other stuff
[20:31] <EriC^> though gnome-screensaver is really elegant and nice
[20:31] <zerowaitstate> screensavers are for when you are away from the computer. If you are away from the computer you aren't looking at it.
[20:31] <Hkerk> Remote viewing
[20:31] <Hkerk> wait nvm
[20:31] <J6Dof> I've installed Elementary OS on my macbook pro. I tried to disable the keyboard backlight by changing the value in << /sys/class/leds/smc\:\:kbd_backlight/brightness >> but the value is overwritten whenever I restart my laptop. Is there any way to work around this?
[20:31] <zerowaitstate> J6Dof: create an init script that sets it on boot
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> J6Dof: ElementaryOS isn't supported here
[20:32] <EriC^> J6Dof: put it in a script and ^
[20:32] <EriC^> as zerowaitstate said
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> J6Dof: ask in #elementaryos
[20:32] <Kb52> No I already went thru the list, to disable the ones I think were no good. But I'd like it if they put in a way to remove and install new or different ones. Just like I wish someone would develop a Plymouth Creation tool, and a GUI that actually works for Plymouth.
[20:33] <EriC^> Kb52: can you pick another login screen for when you want to put the password
[20:33] <EriC^> it looks like something from 1998 or so
[20:33] <J6Dof> I tried to write an init script too but the permissions are overwritten as well and I really don't want to casually give root permission to a script
[20:33] <k1l> !elementary | J6Dof
[20:33] <EriC^> white box with a screen that has a fire on it like a warning sign
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> J6Dof: your distribution isn't supported here or by the Ubuntu community.
[20:34] <J6Dof> @ActionParsnip : didn't know they have their own IRC. Will ask there thanks
[20:34] <EriC^> J6Dof: add the command in rc.local
[20:34] <Hkerk> Hello everyone! I was trying to enable hibernate on my laptop in 14.04, I used a command to check if hibernate was enabled, and now when I boot it shows a bunch of console-like stuff
[20:34] <Hkerk> Can I make this end forever without finding exactly what I did
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> Hkerk: what make and model laptop?
[20:34] <Hkerk> i changed a config to enable switch hibernate=no to yes
[20:35] <Hkerk> fujitsu ah530
[20:35] <Hkerk> lifebook
[20:35] <Hkerk> gfx
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> Hkerk: if you boot to root recovery mode, you can undo the change you made. You will need to remount the file system writable
[20:36] <Eightynine> Is there any Firefox channel?
[20:36] <Hkerk> hmm
[20:36] <bazhang> !alis | Eightynine
[20:36] <Hkerk> it's not really a problem
[20:36] <Hkerk> it just shows what its doing while booting
[20:36] <Hkerk> so i think i will stop editing stuff
[20:36] <Hkerk> and let it ride for now
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> Hkerk: do you get the login page as normal?
[20:37] <EriC^> Hkerk: type grep CMDLINE /etc/default/grub
[20:37] <Hkerk> yes
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> Hkerk: then who cares.....
[20:37] <Hkerk> eric what does that do
[20:37] <EriC^> Hkerk: or cat /proc/cmdline
[20:37] <EriC^> Hkerk: shows your boot options
[20:37] <Hkerk> i was just curious what i did to make it show text while booting
[20:37] <john_doe_jr> how do I create a user with a default password through script…basically I do not want to be prompted to create the password
[20:37] <Hkerk> hmm let me check
[20:37] <Hkerk> also i like guake
[20:37] <EriC^> it should be quiet splash
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> john_doe_jr: if you install expect, you can use that to pipe the password into a script for making users.
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> Hkerk: guake rocks. Should be default IMHO
[20:39] <J6Dof> @EriC^: no help with rc.local either. Before I log in backlight is off. As soon as I log into Gnome it's on again
[20:39] <Hkerk> CMDLINE: command not found
[20:39] <Hkerk> eric
[20:39] <acz32> ActionParsnip: it would be nice if guake could split, so two terminals drop down instead of one
[20:39] <EriC^> Hkerk: type cat /proc/cmdline
[20:39] <Kb52> Is there a way to remove passwords? Not that its what you should do, but it would be cool to be able to not have any passwords ever to use. It CAN be done because Knoppix can and it is based on Ubuntu.
[20:39] <Hkerk> i used the other one and it said BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.16....
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> J6Dof: again, your distribution is off topic here
[20:39] <Hkerk> acz it can
[20:40] <Bray9082_> Can someone help me mount a NAS premaritally on ubuntu 14.10
[20:40] <EriC^> J6Dof: put it in your startup apps or .profile
[20:40] <Hkerk> the bottom left button in guake adds a tab
[20:40] <EriC^> J6Dof: you can add that one command to the sudoers file
[20:40] <john_doe_jr> ActionParsnip: expect is complicated
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> Kb52: knoppix is based on Debian not Ubuntu
[20:41] <EriC^> Hkerk: did it say quiet splash at the end
[20:41] <EriC^> Hkerk: paste the whole thing
[20:41] <Hkerk> no
[20:41] <J6Dof> @ActionParsnip: Yes got that. What if someone is willing to help here? I posted the question on #elementaryos but haven't received any reply
[20:41] <Hkerk> im on two comps lol
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> acz32: guake can have tabs
[20:41] <EriC^> Hkerk: ok, type grep CMDLINE /etc/default/grub
[20:41] <Hkerk> generic root
[20:41] <imbezol> john_doe_jr: man chpasswd
[20:41] <Kb52> Oh well. Its ok cause I made mine a simple password in the install but if I ever want to change it it will force me to a complex one.
[20:42] <Hkerk> eric how do i respond to you
[20:42] <acz32> ActionParsnip: i know, but splitting would be a nice feature
[20:42] <EriC^> Hkerk: what do you mean?
[20:42] <imbezol> john_doe_jr: example -- echo johndoe:hisnewpass | chpasswd
[20:43] <EriC^> Hkerk: just type it out here
[20:43] <Hkerk> EriC^ lol
[20:43] <Hkerk> i want to make text green for you
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> J6Dof: doesn't mean you are supported here.
[20:43] <john_doe_jr> imbezol: I'm being prompted after enter in the adduser command
[20:43] <Hkerk> it said : GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=
[20:43] <Hkerk> and
[20:44] <Hkerk> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""
[20:44] <Hkerk> the cmdline part was red
[20:44] <EriC^> nothing after the = ?
[20:44] <Hkerk> nope
[20:44] <EriC^> ok, type sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[20:44] <imbezol> john_doe_jr: use useradd
[20:44] <Hkerk> are you breaking my computer?
[20:44] <Kb52> I tried every old school method for automounting shares, but just went back to using gigolo and it works and you can put into Startup easily, and it well just works, and dont run it in the system tray option, hide it and your all set.
[20:44] <EriC^> and type quiet splash after GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[20:45] <J6Dof> @EriC^: hmm. That's a good idea. Although it's an ugly fix. thanks
[20:45] <MonkeyDust> Kb52  i use gigolo too, nothing wrong with that
[20:45] <EriC^> J6Dof: yeah, i don't know how else you could do it
[20:45] <Hkerk> Eric i did that
[20:45] <Hkerk> file is blank
[20:46] <Hkerk> as far as i can see
[20:46] <EriC^> Hkerk: you have to type sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[20:46] <J6Dof> @ActionParsnip: So? Does that mean I'm banned from talking to people here?
[20:46] <Hkerk> at the top it sayds file: etc/default/grub
[20:46] <Hkerk> and gnu nano 2.2.6 at the top left
[20:46] <EriC^> Hkerk: add a / before etc
[20:46] <k1l> J6Dof: if you want support in here use ubuntu. dont come here because the other OS doesnt have support. thats it. thanks
[20:46] <pavlos> john_doe_jr, after creating a user with useradd, type passwd -d $username and it will blank out the pass for the user. ... man passwd
[20:46] <EriC^> hit ctrl+x to exit
[20:46] <Hkerk> derp
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> J6Dof: you can talk,  just not request support for ElementaryOS
[20:47] <Hkerk> haha
[20:47] <Hkerk> one step ahead of me
[20:48] <J6Dof> @k1l: I asked a question. I didn't "request" any support and if it from someone who is using ubuntu to someone who is another distro I can't see why it is not allowed. Aren't we here to help each other?
[20:49] <Hkerk> does cntrl s save it?
[20:49] <Hkerk> it says to update grub after
[20:49] <EriC^> yeah type ctrl+o to save
[20:49] <k1l> *sigh*
[20:49] <EriC^> then exit and type sudo update-grub
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> J6Dof: this is Ubuntu support only. We are maintaining channel policy
[20:50] <Hkerk> says file name to write when i control o
[20:50] <EriC^> hit enter
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> !derivatives | J6Dof
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> Funny how it has crunchbang which is dead
[20:51] <Hkerk> thanks eric im going to reboot and see what I may have fixed or broke
[20:51] <EriC^> Hkerk: ok
[20:53] <Hkerk> contemplating putting ubuntu on my desktop and windows 10 on my laptop
[20:53] <imbezol> bad idea
[20:54] <Hkerk> why?
[20:54] <imbezol> put ubuntu on both
[20:54] <Hkerk> lol
[20:54] <Hkerk> meh
[20:54] <Hkerk> I just need more hdds
[20:54] <Hkerk> or ssds
[20:54] <Hkerk> i have two windows licenses and id like the option to use them
[20:55] <k1l> Hkerk: you could use dualboot, too. which means installing both on one system and choose in grub which to start
[20:55] <bianeve> ciao
[20:55] <Hkerk> Tried that
[20:55] <bianeve> !list
[20:55] <Hkerk> never again
[20:55] <imbezol> or install windows in vmware / kvm / xen
[20:56] <Hkerk> Can I run virtual machines in linux independent of hardware?
[20:56] <Hkerk> are there any requirements?
[20:56] <imbezol> they'll run better with virt support
[20:56] <imbezol> but yes
[20:56] <Hkerk> does my 3570k have that
[20:56] <Hkerk> z77 mobo
[20:56] <imbezol> most likely. if you're in linux you can cat /proc/cpuinfo to see the flags it supports
[20:57] <imbezol> then do a little searching on what flags are suggested based on what virtualization software you want to use
[20:57] <Hkerk> whoa
[20:57] <Hkerk> ninjaboot eric!
[20:58] <Hkerk> it was like blerp blerp desktop
[20:59] <imbezol> vms are addictive tho. next thing you know you'll be updating packages in netbsd and wondering where the day went
[20:59] <Hkerk> That's why i like rooting and romming phones
[21:00] <Hkerk> it's an easier version
[21:00] <EriC^> then you turn into this guy https://xkcd.com/350/
[21:00] <imbezol> it's good for making the transition to linux though if you're new to it
[21:00] <imbezol> you can still use some of your windows software until you figure out how to live without it
[21:01] <Hkerk> hahaha
[21:01] <EriC^> haha
[21:01] <Eightynine> Which browser consumes less resources? Chrome or Firefox?
[21:01] <Hkerk> I think i want to try mintbuntu
[21:01] <EriC^> Eightynine: firefox i think but it's not that big of a difference
[21:01] <k1l> Eightynine: both are very heavy.
[21:01] <Hkerk> unity's rigid dock is myaking me cry a little
[21:02] <EriC^> mintbuntu?
[21:02] <Hkerk> ubuntu with mint de
[21:03] <Eightynine> Tab with Gmail consumes 250 MB RAM and Chrome lags. Something is wrong with it.
[21:03] <Hkerk> i just said that haha
[21:03] <Hkerk> shoot i mean mate
[21:03] <Hkerk> sorry
[21:03] <EriC^> oh ok
[21:03] <k1l> there is no mint de. if you mean mate you can have a version of ubuntu preinstalled
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> Hkerk: if you use Xubuntu you will be supported here. Ubuntu Mate is what I think you mean
[21:03] <Hkerk> yes
[21:03] <Hkerk> the marijuans my bad
[21:03] <OerHeks> Eightynine, how much ram do you have, 512 mb?
[21:03] <Hkerk> ^*gasp
[21:04] <Eightynine> 4 GB. I never had that problem with Gmail before.
[21:05] <Hkerk> hahaha https://xkcd.com/178/
[21:06] <la> hola
[21:06] <EriC^> lol
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> Eightynine: try renaming the configuration folder for the browser and rerunning it. Also clear the cache of the browser.
[21:07] <Eightynine> I wanted to create the best Ubuntu flavor called LightBuntu. Fluxbox, SpaceFM, Chrome, DeadBeef, SMPlayer, Gnumeric, AbiWord.
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> Eightynine: that's my system :-)
[21:07] <Eightynine> If someone can make ISOs, please, make this.
[21:07] <OerHeks> Chrome just had an update, maybe that is why ..
[21:08] <nalum> hello all, I'm having a bit of trouble with runit. Using a chef cookbook I'm setting up a uwsgi app, the cookbook is using runit to create the service. The chef run fails with the error: timeout: run: /etc/service/uwsgi-api: (pid 3479) 8s, got TERM
[21:09] <Eightynine> I forgot to tell I'm using Windows 7 and Chromium it was late when I learned about Chrome 42. I think I'll install Lubuntu(I'm currently downloading it) and install Chrome 42.
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> Eightynine: if you remaster the minimal ISO you can make the OS you want. Smplayer is Qt based so will haul in a tonne of kde deps
[21:09] <YvesLevier> backbox: How can we help you?
[21:09] <limpc> hey. im trying to install Apache2. but whenever i use apt-get install apache2, i get a fatal error that mpm_event was not found.  I'm NOT selecting apache2-mpm-event.  Here's the log: http://pastie.org/10092674
[21:09] <nalum> looking at the logs the service appears to be running so I'm not sure what is causing the error
[21:10] <Hkerk> What DEs do you guys like/use?
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> limpc: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[21:10] <Eightynine> ActionParsnip
[21:10] <Eightynine> ActionParsnip
[21:10] <Eightynine> ActionParsnip can you please post your screenshot?
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> Hkerk: none. Just Fluxbox here
[21:10] <Eightynine> Sorry, I can't use KiwiIRC
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> Eightynine: sure gimme a sec
[21:10] <k1l> Eightynine: install a minimal install and install the packages you want. if you cant handle that then run a regular ubuntu flavour and be fine with it
[21:11] <Hkerk> what in tarnation ActionParsnip?
[21:11] <limpc> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10823952/
[21:11] <Eightynine> I'm too lazy to customize WMs or DEs.
[21:11] <Hkerk> I tried i3 and thought i broke everything
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> Hkerk: works well
[21:12] <k1l> Eightynine: ok, then please stop this in here then. this is not going anywhere.
[21:12] <OerHeks> So Eightynine  ... you are trolling about chrome and gmail. goodluck with your issue...
[21:12] <Eightynine> ActionParsnip can I send you message using PM?
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> Eightynine: used to look like this but now there is no dock   https://www.dropbox.com/s/cwrmbudrnej3w1t/raring.png?dl=0
[21:13] <Eightynine> I'm not trolling. Before this I had the same problem with VK(on Linux, don't remember distro) and now I have this problem with Gmail.
[21:14] <OerHeks> Eightynine, Not on ubuntu, so this channel is not suitable for you to complain.
[21:14] <monojin> Hkerk: I'm on MATE
[21:14] <limpc> ActionParsnip, did you catch my link?
[21:15] <Eightynine> ActionParsnip you rock. It looks pretty good.
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> limpc: yeah. Are there any bugs reported?
[21:15] <limpc> not that i could find
[21:15] <Hkerk> monojin: can i install on normal ubuntu?
[21:15] <Hkerk> or its separate distro
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> Eightynine: just clean and easy. When the system boots it's just the wallpaper and the pointer
[21:16] <Eightynine> I want to have something like this but with panel and keyboard layout indicator.
[21:16] <monojin> Hkerk: you can install it in regular ubuntu; if I have it right, MATE is in the official repositories from 15.04 onwards but you'll need PPAs for anything earlier
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> !mate
[21:17] <monojin> Hkerk: but I recommend the Ubuntu MATE distro since it's what I'm using
[21:17] <monojin> ActionParsnip: not official yet ;-)
[21:17] <Hkerk> is there anyway to changeto ubuntu mate without erasing data
[21:17] <Hkerk> or i have to xfer game of thrones off somehow?
[21:18] <Mneuro> Hkerk you can install ubuntu mate desktop and just start using it
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> monojin: Ubuntu MATE Is Now An Official Ubuntu Flavor
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/02/ubuntu-mate-is-now-an-official-ubuntu-flavor
[21:18] <Eightynine> If you're using 14.04 you can add repos and install ubuntu-mate-core
[21:18] <monojin> ActionParsnip: only once 15.04 is released :P
[21:19] <bazhang> !info mate-desktop | Hkerk monojin
[21:19] <OerHeks> monojin, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-mate/ it is already on our servers.
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> !info Mate-desktop trusty
[21:20] <Eightynine> ActionParsnip you have a good taste.
[21:20] <Hkerk> so sudo apt-get install mate-desktop?
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> monojin: it's in the official report for Trusty
[21:20] <cool_boy> if ssh-keygen generates different public key when it is run next time?
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> Hkerk: exactly
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> cool_boy: it generates a different keypair each time
[21:21] <OerHeks> cool_boy, if not, file a bugreport.
[21:22] <cool_boy> ActionParsnip: so is there any possibility two computers in world generate same public key?
[21:22] <OerHeks> cool_boy, do it 3 times, there is murphy's law.
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> monojin: where did you read that it's not official?
[21:22] <cool_boy> OerHeks: yeah I got it different
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> cool_boy: incredibly slim
[21:22] <Eightynine> I should install Lubuntu, change wallpaper to that one which I like, install Chrome and update my system using Software Updater and nothing will break?
[21:23] <cool_boy> ActionParsnip: but there is a
[21:23] <monojin> ActionParsnip: they were very adamant about it not being official until 15.04 the first time I came on this channel (last week)
[21:23] <MonkeyDust> cool_boy  0.000...1%
[21:23] <bazhang> Eightynine, theres no guarantee of that
[21:23] <cool_boy> ActionParsnip: sorry, my cat jumped, message sent without completion
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> monojin: well  it's there in the repositories
[21:23] <MonkeyDust> cool_boy  like the chance that a chimp type the complete works of shakespeare, that's alos not zero
[21:23] <cool_boy> MonkeyDust: thanks, I got it :)
[21:23] <bazhang> Eightynine, install, then we can help with whatever issues arise
[21:24] <Eightynine> I wonder why my system broke when I removed DEs that I don't need. Maybe I should do that in tty?
[21:24] <bazhang> Eightynine, nothing to do with it at all
[21:25] <Eightynine> I understood that I couldn't fix it but why it broke?
[21:26] <Eightynine> How much time approximately it takes to install Lubuntu?
[21:26] <k1l> Eightynine: you removed all desktop packages. so the system thought you dont need all that installed.
[21:26] <bazhang> Eightynine, that is entirely dependent on your individual hardware
[21:27] <k1l> Eightynine: you should have reinstalled the packages you wanted again. but that topic seems to advanced for you now. so i suggest you better stay with preinstalled setups
[21:27] <ubuntu042> hey guys
[21:28] <ubuntu042> can anyone help me with a user/bash related problem
[21:28] <Hkerk> I installed mate-desktop but it doesnt show up as an option when i log out
[21:29] <cool_boy> does private key always includes public key?
[21:29] <Eightynine> I'm writing ISO. Hope all will work good.
[21:30] <MonkeyDust> Hkerk  i have that too, i guess it's just a meta-package
[21:30] <ki7mt> cool_boy, Include is a bit misleading, it's a key "pair" so when you generate the secure key there is a public key associated with it.
[21:30] <MonkeyDust> Hkerk  is that ubuntu 14.04?
[21:31] <cluelessperson> Hey guys, what's the best way to make a shell submit text straight to a website by POST?
[21:31] <cluelessperson> like  cat file.php | pastebinit   ?
[21:32] <ki7mt> cluelessperson, depends on the web-site ans it's means in which to accept contest. SSH, SCP would be good choices for basic uploads.
[21:32] <Hkerk> yeah
[21:32] <ki7mt> .. accept content .. .
[21:32] <Bl4ckD34Th> hey ubuntu
[21:32] <MonkeyDust> Hkerk  then you need a ppa for mate, i guess
[21:32] <monojin> I've had a lot of trouble with ubuntu 14.04 and HDMI to a TV today. Hard to be specific since it was so inconsistent. For most of the time, I had to crank the resolution down to the lowest possible setting to get anything displayed at all but by the end of the day it was working perfectly at native res for no apparant reason. Also, there were intermittent bouts of serious graphical glitches on the TV
[21:32] <Bl4ckD34Th> please make truecrypt as default encryption app in ubuntu
[21:32] <k1l> cluelessperson: pastebinit can read files, no need to cat and pipe then
[21:33] <Bl4ckD34Th> after truecrypt audition result was: Truecrrypt it is safe
[21:33] <acz32> Bl4ckD34Th: it's also abandoned, so no
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: it's in the repositories. No need for a PPA
[21:33] <Hkerk> ppa is an acronym
[21:33] <MonkeyDust> Hkerk  but if you're happy with non-LTS's, you can simply wait for 15.04, it has it in the installer
[21:33] <cluelessperson> ki7mt,  literally all the website needs is a POST containing the data.   description, content, lifetime in int hours
[21:33] <Hkerk> ythats all ive got
[21:33] <k1l> Bl4ckD34Th: file a bug if there isnt one already for that
[21:33] <cluelessperson> ki7mt, it REQUIRES just content
[21:34] <monojin> is HDMI known to be spotty with TVs these days?
[21:34] <MonkeyDust> ActionParsnip  i guess that's a meta-package
[21:34] <cool_boy> ki7mt: just want to understand "When you log in to a computer, the SSH server uses the public key to "lock" messages in a way that can only be "unlocked" by your private key" , I mean how does ssh server know which private key can unlock the message if it has no info regarding private key?
[21:34] <ki7mt> cluelessperson, wel, personally, I would use a perl script rather than a bash ot sh script.
[21:34] <MonkeyDust> ActionParsnip  i tried it too, installed it, but it doesnt appear as DE in the list
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> cluelessperson: if you connect a phone to your system you can setup an SMS gateway service
[21:34] <cluelessperson> ki7mt, I prefer something I can easily toss up into an apt-get repository
[21:35] <ki7mt> cool_boy, while similar, that's a different activity, that's file encryption rather than access.
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: can it be added manually?
[21:36] <cool_boy> ki7mt: yeah, article says that message can be decrypted only by receivers private key (valid) but how does ssh server know which private key is valid?
[21:36] <ki7mt> cool_boy, for example to enctypt test.txt, I would do something like: tar cfJ - test.txt | openssl enc -aes-256-cbc -e > test.txt.tar.xz
[21:36] <MonkeyDust> ActionParsnip  that would be in /usr/share/xsessions/ but it's almost midnight here, so not now
[21:36] <ki7mt> cool_boy, then to decrypt it, I'd need the private Key.
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> cool_boy: the public key knows the system you are coming from and it is in your user's name.
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: indeed
[21:37] <cool_boy> ActionParsnip: so can we say like public key contains some info of private key or only system login?
[21:38] <ki7mt> cool_boy, then to decrypt, I would use something like:  openssl enc -in test.txt.tar.xz -aes-256-cbc -d | tar -xJvf -
[21:38] <jpapad> hello is anyone here that speak the greek language?
[21:38] <smmc> hi guys
[21:38] <cool_boy> ki7mt: sorry, I couldn't understand your examples of encryption, decryption :(
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> !greek
[21:39] <bbrox> exit
[21:39] <jpapad> !greek
[21:39] <ki7mt> cool_boy, Ok. I'll find a how-too link, but just know, that SSH Key log-in / access is different that encryption.
[21:40] <cool_boy> ki7mt: that point is clear to me
[21:40] <cool_boy> thanks
[21:40] <monojin> Greek Christs?!
[21:40] <ki7mt> cool_boy, Here's almost the exact example I used, with an explanation: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2007/12/12/simple-file-encryption-with-openssl/
[21:41] <Hkerk> HRestos vscreci
[21:41] <ki7mt> cool_boy, And here's a how-to for SSH Access: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[21:42] <cool_boy> ki7mt: thanks I am going through article
[21:42] <smmc> hi guys, could you direct me to right place , Im new with linux and I have problem with disconnecting wifi
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> smmc: what WiFi chip are you using?
[21:43] <rektide> when i ssh into this box, i don't have a DBUS session
[21:43] <rektide> this is a recent vivid daily
[21:43] <rektide> how do i fix this? this is horrible. ssh users need envs!!!
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> Smmc: also what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> rektide: #ubuntu+1 for Vivid support
[21:44] <smmc> its realtek 8188
[21:44] <rektide> ActionParsnip: ty. was going to cry tears over lack of ubuntu having nice things like #debian-systemd
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> rektide: you are using a prerelease which is known to have bugs and issues.
[21:44] <monojin> debian-systemd? is that a real channel?
[21:45] <monojin> I'm sure it's civil
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> smmc: can you please pastebin to the output of: sudo lshw -C network ; lsb_release -a; sudo iwlist scan
[21:46] <jpapad> hello guys
[21:46] <jpapad> i have a question
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> smmc: use http://pastie.org to host the text
[21:46] <YvesLevier> jpapad: listening
[21:46] <jpapad> how can i export acpi tables ?
[21:46] <smmc> thanks let me try
[21:47] <YvesLevier> Plz som1 help jpapad.  Having no idea about his topic.
[21:50] <cool_boy> which default algorithm is used when I do "ssh-keygen" on ubuntu?
[21:50] <cool_boy> to generate key pair **
[21:51] <ki7mt> jpapad, Not sure about exporting all of them at once, but hey are exported to folders / files in:  /sys/devices/*
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> smmc: post the link of the pastebin in the channel
[21:51] <YvesLevier> ki7mt: thx :)
[21:51] <jpapad> thanks ki7mt !! I'll try it
[21:54] <ki7mt> jpapad, This may help: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/acpitool.1.html
[21:55] <Eightynine> I have just installed Lubuntu and I like it now. It's much better than stock LXDE and Lubuntu which I tried a few years ago. Thanks for advices and good work guys. Good luck.
[21:55] <jpapad> thanks aagain ki7mt
[21:55] <ki7mt> welcome
[21:57] <ki7mt> Eightynine, Stay tunned to the Lubuntu channel, there is allot of good work going on there with the DE. Glad you like LUB.
[21:57] <Eightynine> And again I have tearing in Firefox. Will you help me to configure Firefox tomorrow to get rid of tearing and "Firefox sends data. Chose what you share"?
[22:07] <Phobos> testing
[22:08] <pancake> which is the chan for ubuntuphone?
[22:08] <k1l> pancake: #ubuntu-touch
[22:09] <pancake> thx
[22:09] <cool_boy> how would I be able to connect to server if I disable password authentication and loose key of my laptop accidentally ?
[22:09] <k1l> cool_boy: try the recovery system, if your hoster provides it
[22:10] <ki7mt> cool_boy, save you key pair in a safe location .. always have a backup. I use that encryption I told you earlier to encrypt my pairs on a USB thumb drive and save them in several locations.
[22:11] <Guest37121> How I can enter to chat in spanish language ? I can write a little bit of english ...
[22:11] <ki7mt> cool_boy, So the sequence is, generate the pairs, test them throughly, make backups, encrypt them, save in safe locations, then disable root log-in with PW's
[22:12] <cool_boy> ki7mt: and in case of accidental loose I just copy that  key pair to same or another system, it should work, right?
[22:12] <kostkon> !es
[22:12] <ki7mt> .. thoroughly .. hehee, gotta love spell check ..
[22:12] <Guest37121> Muchas gracias @ubottu
[22:13] <ki7mt> cool_boy, Your key will be on the server still, all you do is re-add it to the box you lost it on, reinstalled OS or whatever.
[22:14] <ki7mt> cool_boy, So the recover would be, on the system that lost the keys, decrypt the keys, then add them back to the system, then log back into your server.
[22:14] <cool_boy> ki7mt: fine but if I encrypt key files and keep them in safe location. if someone gets access to them, he is able to decrypt them, right?
[22:16] <cool_boy> ki7mt: what if I copy key pair on another system (in case I loose system) , will another system having key pair (of old system) copied on it be able to make login ?
[22:16] <ki7mt> cool_boy, No very easily, use a strong passphrase (letters+numbers Upper and Lower case, maybe some punctuation).. it would take the average hacker years to bust it, if they had the horse power and know how.
[22:17] <Hkerk>  apparently only password length matters according to intel
[22:17] <Hkerk> http://imgur.com/gallery/zFyBtyA
[22:18] <ki7mt> cool_boy, Re: second system, yes,you can export the keys. I often use the same set for a particular purpose on several boxes. But it is safer to have (1) set per box.
[22:19] <cool_boy> ki7mt: what if someone gets files compressed like "openssl aes-256-cbc -a -salt -in secrets.txt -out secrets.txt.enc" , what he would need to decrypt the file?
[22:20] <cool_boy> on my system it is decrypted simply like "openssl aes-256-cbc -d -a -in secrets.txt.enc -out secrets.txt.new"
[22:21] <Hkerk> what are some goods way to make kde not look like its from 2002
[22:22] <ki7mt> cool_boy, the only way to decrypt the file is with your strong encryption pass-phrase.
[22:23] <cool_boy> ki7mt: If I do not supply a passphrase, it would be decrypted simply by that command, right?
[22:23] <limpc> hey. im trying to install Apache2. but whenever i use apt-get install apache2, i get a fatal error that mpm_event was not found.  I'm NOT selecting apache2-mpm-event.  Here's the log: http://pastie.org/10092674
[22:23] <bekks> cool_boy: If that secrets.txt supllies the pass phrase, yes. I suggest NOT storing the password in a file.
[22:24] <bekks> cool_boy: But it depends on the use case, though.
[22:24] <limpc> zip used to do that.  so easy to crack
[22:24] <ki7mt> cool_boy, Exercise: try it and see the results (both ways, with and without). It's rather pointless to encrypt something without a pass-phrase.
[22:24] <bekks> cool_boy: I am doing the same, with a 32bit passphrase, just for making it a bit harder to get some specific files.
[22:24] <cool_boy> ki7mt: thanks gonna try it
[22:24] <cool_boy> bekks: thanks :)
[22:28] <hiexpo> hola
[22:33] <ki7mt> Hkerk, "apparently only password length matters according to intel" .. indeed, for enc phrases, that may very well be the case. I'm just in the habit of including them as a standard practice.
[22:37] <rocoloco> Hello guys
[22:38] <rocoloco> You know if elementary os has a channel on this irc?
[22:39] <hiexpo> rocoloco, start here http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=elementary
[22:39] <petersaints> hi guys. I have an HP printer. Should I choose the Gutenprint+CUPS driver or the hpcups one? From my understanding the Gutenprint+CUPS version is the open-source unsupported (by HP) version and the hpcups comes from HPLIP, which is the official HP linux drivers project. Which one gives you better results?
[22:39] <kostkon> !elementary
[22:40] <hiexpo> thanks kostkon
[22:41] <cool_boy> ki7mt: got it now, encryption also takes passphrase
[22:41] <cool_boy> so big companies have always more than one person who knows their passphrase? ( offcourse they have many passphrase to remember)
[22:42] <cool_boy> passphrases*
[22:44] <Hell_Howl> buenas noches
[22:45] <Hell_Howl> tengo una duda
[22:45] <Hell_Howl> ¿ alguien puedo ayudarme ?
[22:45] <kostkon> !es
[22:45] <Hell_Howl> join #ubuntu-es
[22:46] <BBLLCC> how do I get an invite to the wine room?
[22:46] <kostkon> BBLLCC, what's the message you are getting
[22:46] <BBLLCC> or maybe you can help, how do I "insert" an iso copy of a cd?, so I can use it from wine?
[22:46] <BBLLCC>  You have been kicked from #wine by ChanServ (Invite only channel)
[22:47] <Jordan_U> BBLLCC: The channel is #winehq.
[22:47] <BBLLCC> a, thnks Jordan_U
[22:48] <macibookg3> I have a lintel 2.4GHz MacBook Pro 8,2 Late 2011 13" Running Ubuntu 14.04 on it.  I would like to know how to install Mac OS 10.10 on to a bootable USB hard Drive
[22:48] <kostkon> BBLLCC, run the wine configuration utility, click on Drives, add a new drive/disc and point it to the iso file
[22:48] <Jordan_U> BBLLCC: You're welcome.
[22:48] <kostkon> BBLLCC, you need to mount or otherwise extract that iso file first
[22:49] <locsmif> I have a problem where I select keyboard layout US intl with dead keys, but every say ~10 minutes, dead keys stop working properly. Is this a known issue?
[22:49] <Jordan_U> macibookg3: This channel can't help you with installing Mac OS, we only support Ubuntu.
[22:50] <Jordan_U> macibookg3: ##mac might be able to help you though.
[22:50] <cool_boy> ki7mt: even  after encription I am able to edit the file :(
[22:51] <BBLLCC> sudo mount hooray.iso <?
[22:52] <kostkon> BBLLCC, i think you can just right click on it and select mount
[22:52] <balleyne> how can I find out which Xorg driver is currently in use on my machine?
[22:53] <kostkon> BBLLCC, "open with Archive Mounter", if you've got such an option
[22:54] <Jordan_U> balleyne: Running "glxinfo" and looking at /var/log/Xorg.0.log will both tell you (along with giving you a lot of other information you probably don't want).
[22:54] <cool_boy> well on checking  ~/.ssh/known_hosts  on my laptop I see many entries, what are those keys, I have never added any key in my laptop , how they come there? can I delete them from there or not?
[22:54] <balleyne> Jordan_U, thanks
[22:54] <kostkon> BBLLCC, or just extract it (i.e. into a folder)and then use that folder as the drive
[22:55] <Jordan_U> cool_boy: Every time you ssh into a new host there is a warning that the host is unknown, and then you are asked if you want to add the host to ~/.ssh/known_hosts .
[22:55] <Jordan_U> balleyne: You're welcome.
[22:56] <BBLLCC> wine config tool wont show hidden files (.wine)
[22:56] <BBLLCC> folders I mean
[22:56] <BBLLCC> directory
[22:56] <BBLLCC> *
[22:56] <cool_boy> Jordan_U: hmm, I remember so I have lots of entries now, and what that means. systems having public keys which has been registered in my known_host file can access my system?
[22:56] <kostkon> BBLLCC, you don't need to access .wine anyway
[22:57] <cool_boy> :S
[22:58] <Jordan_U> cool_boy: No, not at all. It just means that you won't get any warnings when you ssh into them again (unless their private key has changed, in which case you'll get a very loud warning that someone might be maliciously pretending to be that server).
[22:58] <cool_boy> Jordan_U: aah, I have seen that warning also :)
[22:59] <ki7mt> cool_boy, I dont know how that's happening, as once the file is encrypted, you should not be able to freely edit the file in plain text.
[23:00] <cool_boy> ki7mt: yes I can open in vim, it opens encrypted data but I am able to edit that :s
[23:01] <ki7mt> cool_boy, are you seeing the file in plain text to encrypted text? If plain, that is a problem.
[23:01] <cool_boy> it malfunctions file and passphrase doesn't work to decrypt the file
[23:01] <Jordan_U> cool_boy: That is completely normal and expected. If you try to decrypt that "modified" file, decryption will fail. What did you expect to happen?
[23:02] <cool_boy> ki7mt: I am seeing encrypted text but not editable
[23:02] <cool_boy> sorry but editable **
[23:02] <ki7mt> cool_boy, That the correct behaviour then.
[23:02] <ki7mt> That is ..
[23:03] <cool_boy> ki7mt: so if someone edits the file then I also loose that file, I won't be able to decrypt the file with the password I had supplied
[23:03] <ki7mt> cool_boy, that is the whole purpose .. if they edit it, it's toast, if they can't decrypt it, it's of no use to them.
[23:04] <Jordan_U> cool_boy: Again I ask, what did you expect to happen when you tried to edit the file?
[23:04] <cool_boy> and no use of mine as well :P
[23:05] <ki7mt> cool_boy, Please answer Jordan_U 's question
[23:05] <cool_boy> Jordan_U: I was not expecting to be able to edit file without decrypt
[23:05] <Jordan_U> cool_boy: What did you think was going to prevent editing the file?
[23:06] <cool_boy> Jordan_U: I don't know, ( may be something after encription like password protected)
[23:07] <ki7mt> cool_boy, If you want to prevent "access" to the file, that's a whole different ball of wax .. that's a permission setting.
[23:07] <Jordan_U> cool_boy: If you have only one copy of your file on a hard drive, and someone zeroes that hard drive, you have lost that file. Encrypting it won't prevent you from losing the file. At another level, if instead of zeroing the drive they melted it with thermite then you would have also lost the file. Encryption has nothing to do with preventing file loss, that's what backups (and to a certain extent, permissions) are for.
[23:08] <cool_boy> ki7mt: btw I found it safe, I can make multiple copies and store them at many locations freely. if someone edits I can get content from another
[23:08] <TheLemonKing> Hey.
[23:09] <cool_boy> Jordan_U: thanks got the point :)
[23:09] <TheLemonKing> I dont like how xChat makes me join a IRC channel.
[23:09] <danielbrazilian> hello i would like to make use of turbo boost on my core i5 4210U i am running ubuntu mate 64bit 14.04 LTS
[23:11] <danielbrazilian> please any help
[23:12] <bekks> danielbrazilian: Just enable it in the BIOS.
[23:13] <bekks> danielbrazilian: If your system feels like needing to boost, it will.
[23:13] <danielbrazilian> i think there are not many options in a notebook
[23:14] <danielbrazilian> but it says it boosts from 1.7 up to 2.7
[23:14] <bekks> So it does, if the system needs to.
[23:14] <danielbrazilian> i will check on the bios then
[23:24] <Nikesh> What's the equivalent wget to  ```curl https://url/endpoint/ -u APIKEY:X``` ?
[23:26] <Nikesh> Or rather, I am sending the above request and the server responds with an XML file, but the brackets are escaped, so instead of <ol> I see &lt;ol&gt;
[23:26] <limpc> hey. im trying to install Apache2. but whenever i use apt-get install apache2, i get a fatal error that mpm_event was not found.  I'm NOT selecting apache2-mpm-event.  Here's the log: http://pastie.org/10092674
[23:27] <bekks> limpc: So install the event mpm?
[23:27] <huig> hello, how come there is no sudo file in /bin?
[23:28] <compdoc> type:  which sudo
[23:28] <limpc> bekks, do you even know what that is :P
[23:28] <bekks> huig: It is in /usr/bin/sudo
[23:28] <bekks> limpc: Yes, I do.
[23:28] <bekks> limpc: Which Ubuntu release are you on, actually?
[23:28] <limpc> well im not using apache2-mpm-event im using worker
[23:28] <limpc> 14.04.2
[23:29] <huig> bekks, and why is it sudo on /usr/bin and not in /bin?
[23:29] <bekks> huig: Why not?
[23:29] <bekks> limpc: Did you run a sudo apt-get update?
[23:30] <limpc> im pretty sure i did, ill do it again anyway to be sure
[23:31] <limpc> bekks, same error after update
[23:31] <bekks> limpc: Can you pastebin the output again, please?
[23:32] <huig> bekks, just curious..why are at least most of the bash commands in /bin and sudo has to be at another dir
[23:32] <bekks> huig: Because sudo isnt a vital command to be residing on /
[23:32] <limpc> bekks, with or without apache2-mpm-worker specifically selected?
[23:32] <bekks> limpc: Without.
[23:33] <huig> bekks, it isn't a vital command?!
[23:33] <limpc> bekks, http://pastie.org/10092867
[23:33] <bekks> huig: It isnt. You can build a chroot including /bin and /sbin and you will have a basic set of commands.
[23:35] <ki7mt> The origin is from the boostrap for which the Image was built, that's why they in /bin
[23:35] <bekks> ki7mt: sudo is in /usr/bin/
[23:35] <ki7mt> That's an installed package
[23:35] <bekks> limpc: Could you please pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get update"?
[23:35] <ki7mt> sudo isn't part of the bootstrap
[23:36] <limpc> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10824457/
[23:37] <bekks> limpc: You rmirror is - weird. Try an official mirror please.
[23:37] <limpc> that is official. its a selected mirror based on speed
[23:37] <bekks> Try another mirror please.
[23:37] <limpc> ok
[23:37] <bekks> Like "archive.ubuntu.com"
[23:40] <limpc> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10824470/
[23:41] <bekks> limpc: And the sudo apt-get install apache2 again please
[23:41] <limpc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10824475/
[23:42] <bekks> limpc: Try: sudo apt-get install apache2-mpm-event apache2 please
[23:42] <limpc> i dont want event driven apache
[23:42] <limpc> im trying to install the worker version
[23:42] <bekks> That may apply, but the error you get should change significantly.
[23:44] <Zenger> Hey guys I have a problem my CTRL + C, CTRL + V don't work on a fresh installation, neither does CTRL + A, CTRL + ALT + T, CTRL + ALT + F1 anything at all. CTRL just acts like shift
[23:44] <limpc> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10824495/
[23:46] <bekks> limpc: So try: sudo apt-get install apache2
[23:46] <limpc> ?? i did both
[23:46] <bekks> limpc: If that doesnt work, please open a bug on apache2
[23:48] <hivearts> can someone help me to install ubuntu guest on qemu-kvm ?
[23:51] <Jordan_U> hivearts: What problem are you having?
[23:51] <discus> doing windows/ubuntu dual boot.. should I create primaty or logical partition for ubuntu?
[23:52] <discus> what is the difference
[23:52] <EriC^^> discus: you can only have 4 primaries, logical partitions are used as a trick to have more partitions
[23:52] <EriC^^> it's basically the same thing
[23:53] <ahmadsoe> anyone can help me to install aufs support for ubuntu 14.04 kernel 4.0?
[23:53] <Jordan_U> discus: I would recommend simply letting Ubuntu's installer handle partitioning.
[23:54] <hivearts> can i install ubuntu server 14.04 without graphics?
[23:54] <hivearts> i am isntalling it on kvm remote host
[23:56] <discus> since I have two partitions now, and want to add two for ubuntu (swap and /), to take the remaining space, then I can just use primary partitions?
[23:56] <Jordan_U> discus: Why are you partitioning manually?
[23:57] <max100> is python pip broken in ubuntu 14.04?
[23:57] <discus> Jordan why not? Might as well learn something new
[23:57] <Bashing-om> hivearts: A server install has no GUI .
[23:58] <Jordan_U> discus: Because the installer is good at doing the right thing WRT partitioning, but wanting to learn is a great reason for wanting to do it manually :)
[23:58] <discus> one slighly annoying thing if I make partitions Logical is that they are named sda5 and sda6, not sda3 and 4
[23:58] <[n0mad]> hi all
[23:59] <Bashing-om> discus: That is correct, the 'extended' partition makes the difference .
[23:59] <discus> Jordan_U: yup :). that is the whole point of installing linux in tge first place