| === DalekSec_ is now known as DalekSec | ||
| Unit193 | We, again, don't care about UOS right? | 17:55 |
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| knome | Unit193, and because we don't care, we have an agenda item for it? | 17:56 |
| Unit193 | knome: Shush, you. ;P | 17:56 |
| Unit193 | knome: And, nah, wasn't aware of that yet. | 17:57 |
| knome | i can ping balloons if you want to volunteer running a session | 17:57 |
| knome | oops, i already did | 17:57 |
| knome | hai balloons! | 17:57 |
| Unit193 | Just happend to see a message about it. | 17:57 |
| knome | balloons can tell you more about running a session | 17:58 |
| Unit193 | That's fine, though I won't personally be running one. | 17:58 |
| knome | sure? | 17:58 |
| Unit193 | Very. | 17:59 |
| knome | even if you get a cookie? | 17:59 |
| knome | (from microsoft's website) | 17:59 |
| balloons | <3 | 18:04 |
| balloons | I'm happy to inform, never coerce or force :-) | 18:04 |
| Unit193 | Howdy. | 18:04 |
| knome | luckily, i'm not you ;)= | 18:05 |
| elfy | lol | 18:06 |
| elfy | so balloons comes by to hang with the really cool kids | 18:06 |
| Unit193 | Oooh, elfy is going to do one? | 18:06 |
| elfy | behind the bikesheds ... I note that mhall119 sneaks about in here too and even reconnects :p | 18:07 |
| Unit193 | Several oddities are. | 18:07 |
| elfy | <- | 18:07 |
| * balloons briefly considers idling longer | 18:08 | |
| elfy | :) | 18:08 |
| elfy | at least 48 hours | 18:08 |
| elfy | my timing is bad | 18:08 |
| Unit193 | I tried idleing in a new channel recently, kept getting pings... | 18:08 |
| ochosi | poor Unit193 ;) | 18:09 |
| ochosi | that must've been a nightmare! | 18:09 |
| elfy | you can just imagine | 18:09 |
| Unit193 | "Why must you be doing the pinging?" | 18:09 |
| mhall119 | elfy: I've been idling in here for years | 18:18 |
| elfy | mhall119: I know :) | 18:18 |
| Unit193 | So, we should ping mhall119 for no reason whatsoever? | 18:25 |
| Unit193 | We've also got a cypher mox in here, which I need to bribe for my packageset application. | 18:25 |
| knome | Unit193, mhall119 that is? | 18:27 |
| Unit193 | Yep, that's the one. | 18:27 |
| knome | there can be only one mhall119 | 18:27 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: So when you get back, what exactly is https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/GtkSettings.html#GtkSettings--gtk-enable-animations for that matter? I know it does smooth scrolling, but any idea what else? | 18:27 |
| mhall119 | yup, if there was another, he's be mhall120 | 18:27 |
| Unit193 | It doesn't say much. | 18:27 |
| Unit193 | mhall119: Or, mhall118? Did you kill the 18?! | 18:28 |
| mhall119 | we don't talk about mhall118 | 18:28 |
| knome | mhall119, is that the royal we? | 18:29 |
| Unit193 | cyphermox: Speaking of you and plymouth, have you tried building with --list-missing or --fail-missing? Or gotten anywhere with LP 1386005? | 18:29 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1386005 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "Password not accepted graphical boot for encrypted root system" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1386005 | 18:29 |
| cyphermox | Unit193: haven't looked carefully | 18:33 |
| cyphermox | I'm still mostly reacting to bugs right now, and higher priorities often pop up | 18:33 |
| Unit193 | cyphermox: OK, think that bug might be a bit important, but I'll bug you about the other stuff for wombat of course. :) | 18:34 |
| cyphermox | that bug looks like it's somewhere between plymouth and the kernel screwing things up, IIRC if I use 3.19 mainline things would work, but I haven't checked again in a little while | 18:34 |
| Unit193 | Removing 'splash' from the boot options is a workaround, but maybe not a well known one. Anywho, figured I'd poke. | 18:34 |
| cyphermox | it was a good idea to | 18:35 |
| cyphermox | thanks for reminding me of it, unfortunately I certainly won't be able to retest this until next week | 18:35 |
| davmor2 | knome: same with davmor1 and davmor3 is just evil :D | 18:48 |
| knome | :) | 18:48 |
| Unit193 | cyphermox: I have a VM handy, I'll test a couple different kernels. | 18:51 |
| cyphermox | Unit193: did you see this in VMs? | 18:53 |
| Unit193 | cyphermox: Yep. | 18:53 |
| cyphermox | ok... in my experience it was especially a problem on nouveau/radeon, not necessarily on qxl and whatnot | 18:53 |
| cyphermox | ... though I haven't tried so much in VMs. | 18:53 |
| Unit193 | cyphermox: I sware I'm just commenting, found it odd that Plymouth wouldn't display, and in fact somewhat recently would put the monitor to sleep during boot rather than showing, used a non-Ubuntu kernel and now plymouth even shows up right now. | 18:59 |
| cyphermox | ah what? | 19:01 |
| Unit193 | Can't get plymouth to show the 'logo' theme anymore in vbox, thus can't test. >_> | 19:55 |
| elfy | who care's, lets get an image that allows you to reboot and I'll be happy | 20:03 |
| ochosi | Unit193: it disables all animations toolkit-wide. that includes certain widgets that sport animations (e.g. GtkRevealer, which is used for Parole's playback-control bar, or GtkStack, which is a replacement for GtkNotebook) | 20:07 |
| ochosi | so yeah, i still think it'd be a worthwhile setting to have in the UI somewhere | 20:07 |
| Unit193 | elfy: Eh, being seemingly unable to unlock an encrypted install doesn't seem good either though. | 20:10 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Dang.. | 20:10 |
| ochosi | Unit193: "dang" good or "dang" bad? | 20:11 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Well, Parole uses it, so likely not going to disable by default... | 20:11 |
| ochosi | depends | 20:11 |
| ochosi | who knows, if animations cause issues | 20:12 |
| Unit193 | That, and the new Xfwm highlights I want gone. | 20:13 |
| ochosi | seems to me you dont like all the new things | 20:13 |
| Unit193 | Could well be, sure. Just don't like when the whole screen goes a shade of green. :D | 20:14 |
| Unit193 | I'm guessing that's a 'no' to both. OK. | 20:14 |
| ochosi | it's not | 20:15 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: FWIW, that's also a compliment! It means that Xubuntu is quite good how it is. :D | 20:16 |
| ochosi | heh | 20:16 |
| ochosi | well it mostly means that either Gtk+, X11, graphic card drivers or the hardware sucks | 20:17 |
| Unit193 | While it isn't great, I don't like smooth scrolling, always feels laggy even on good systems. It's just a preference, and if you could only disable smooth scrolling it'd be great but the fact it hits parole is bad, IMO. | 20:18 |
| Unit193 | Anywho, put it on my tracker for Wombat, thanks for the additional information. | 20:19 |
| elfy | Unit193: ofc, but being that we don't test that - is it something we should get noisy about | 20:21 |
| elfy | more than just referring to it | 20:21 |
| Unit193 | elfy: Ah, well this is my personal noise, not Xubuntu team. | 20:21 |
| elfy | but does impact on comments made in here | 20:22 |
| elfy | by me - should we test this stuff now | 20:22 |
| Unit193 | elfy: Ah, well FWIW it's not an Xubuntu issue, soo. | 20:22 |
| elfy | yes | 20:22 |
| elfy | I know :) | 20:22 |
| Unit193 | Great! So no more work for you. :D | 20:23 |
| elfy | but if we were testing then it would not be just 1/5th or 2/5ths | 20:23 |
| elfy | the issue is - that if it is not seen in Ubuntu, they only care if it's a nightmare | 20:25 |
| elfy | and as Ubuntu now only bother right at the end - nightmares for everyone else don't figure much | 20:25 |
| elfy | the trouble is everyone - us include - release with fails | 20:25 |
| elfy | perhaps we shouldn't | 20:25 |
| Unit193 | Indeed, but in this case it's either an older bug or a recurring one. And, as Kubuntu is aware of it, they tend to make noise and have more weight to throw around than we do. | 20:26 |
| elfy | if blog xyz all said - wow no ubuntu flavours released beta 1 because of this - they would notice | 20:26 |
| Unit193 | (And of course I'd hate to push more testing load on you.) Encryption works, and logging in works if you use the plymouth-text theme. | 20:27 |
| elfy | yea and it's fail if Xubuntu releases because one person tested and reported | 20:28 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Oh, that soundmenu/pulseaudio merger still on your agenda for $LONGTERM? | 20:39 |
| ochosi | Unit193: well what did you think i was going to ask about..? :) | 20:41 |
| Unit193 | Niiice. | 20:42 |
| * Unit193 stops bugging. | 20:42 | |
| ochosi | Unit193: ooook, so i just got another heads up about the animation settings, it even stops the spinner... | 20:55 |
| ochosi | so humm, that's a pass on switching that off by default in xubuntu | 20:55 |
| ochosi | otherwise we would prolly have to be consistent and switch off the compositor by default again too | 20:56 |
| Unit193 | Spinner? | 20:56 |
| ochosi | yeah, you know, that progress indicator apps have..? | 20:56 |
| Unit193 | And yeah, understandably. I think the smooth scrolling annoys me enough to leave it off for myself. Aha, that. | 20:56 |
| Unit193 | Stupid GTK... | 20:57 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Well hey, thanks for lookin' | 20:58 |
| ochosi | sure, np | 21:01 |
| ochosi | i wanted to know too | 21:01 |
| Unit193 | (Took it off my tracker, of course.) | 21:01 |
| cyphermox | Unit193: ochosi: elfy: just checking, are we good with the rebooting after install on your side? | 21:02 |
| cyphermox | in case anything is still exploding :) | 21:02 |
| cyphermox | very lastest image 20150414 should work, AFAICT | 21:02 |
| ochosi | cyphermox: sorry, was out for a day or two, i'm not really up to speed | 21:09 |
| cyphermox | just askin', don't worry about it :) | 21:09 |
| * ochosi stops worrying and loves the bomb | 21:10 | |
| bluesabre0 | hey everyone. just a heads up that my internet is out through at least Thursday | 22:24 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre0: Hello mein freund! | 22:25 |
| knome | huhu | 22:25 |
| bluesabre0 | :) | 22:25 |
| knome | bluesabre0, why did you break it? | 22:25 |
| bluesabre0 | I did nothing... I'd prefer to have something functional :D | 22:26 |
| bluesabre0 | been playing lots of offline games though as a result | 22:26 |
| knome | bluesabre0, openttd? | 22:26 |
| knome | that's such an awesome offline time waster | 22:26 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre0: Oooh, which ones? | 22:27 |
| bluesabre0 | Mario, Sonic, other Wii games... might play some final fantasy later | 22:27 |
| knome | hah | 22:28 |
| Unit193 | Wife happy? Wife the one that do it? :P | 22:28 |
| knome | i'm sure she's happy for sean spending less time in front of the computer | 22:28 |
| bluesabre0 | She's less happy than I am, needs to get photos to client | 22:28 |
| knome | bluesabre0, snailmaiillll ;) | 22:28 |
| knome | or telnet them | 22:29 |
| bluesabre0 | ewwww | 22:29 |
| knome | well in fact, i should snailmail my client some photos | 22:29 |
| Unit193 | Library. | 22:29 |
| knome | mobile web. | 22:29 |
| bluesabre0 | Yeah, she's probably going to upload from somewhere else tomorrow | 22:30 |
| bluesabre0 | anyhoo, just letting you guys know. If you need an upload, will have to get Micah or a sponsor :) | 22:31 |
| bluesabre0 | Gotta run... be back hopefully Thursday :) | 22:32 |
| knome | hf bluesabre0 | 22:32 |
| Unit193 | Byebyebyebyebyebyebye. | 22:32 |
| micahg | I'm around | 22:44 |
| micahg | more or less | 22:44 |
| Unit193 | \o/ | 22:44 |
| micahg | except on Thursday :) | 22:44 |
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