[11:18] <xubuntu802> heloo
[12:52] <golfwang> hello
[12:53] <golfwang> can anyone tell me how i can replace ubuntu 14.10 with xubuntu 14.04 without losing my data?
[13:18] <baizon> golfwang: http://askubuntu.com/questions/64241/how-do-i-switch-to-xubuntu
[13:21] <nomic> 'plug in the disk'?
[13:21] <nomic> ah - downgrade?
[13:22]  * nomic would install it next to 14.10
[13:22] <nomic> minimise 14.04 partition
[13:22] <nomic> then the 14.10 partition is visible from 14.04, as a volume
[13:22] <knome> they asked replace, not dualboot
[13:22] <nomic> will be visible, without manually mounting it
[13:22] <golfwang> ok
[13:22] <nomic> well you have to back up your data then
[13:23] <knome> golfwang, if you haven't got /home on a separate partition, then you definitely need backups
[13:23] <nomic> because you can't 'downgrade'
[13:23] <nomic> you can upgrade
[13:23] <nomic> and your data sits where it is , os gets upgraded
[14:44] <longbonglungfish> hey xubuntu brothers. i have a simple question: i recently upgrading to xfce 4.12 on xubuntu 14.04, via the xubuntu dev team xfce 4.12 ppa. i forgot to do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade after adding the ppa and doing sudo apt-get update. instead, after update, i simply opened synaptic and marked then upgraded the relevant packages through there. is this ok? should i revert and repeat the process with dist-upgrade instead? i ask bec
[14:44] <longbonglungfish> ause i now have two versions of libxfce4util, and i'm not sure if this is normal. thanks in advance for help!
[16:02] <SonikkuAmerica> Xubuntu doesn't seem to have a minimum requirement for processors. I'm looking around for a *buntu for a friend with a Intel Pentium II... would that work?
[16:13] <mrkramps> SonikkuAmerica, nope
[16:14] <SonikkuAmerica> Thanks. :)
[16:45] <Eniot> Bonjour les gens :-) Juste une question svp ?
[16:46] <elfy> !fr | Eniot
[16:46] <Eniot> ok thanks bye ^^
[18:38] <beachbuddah> morning all - I am dl xubuntu 14.04.2 as we type to an ubuntu live usb environment
[18:38] <beachbuddah> I want to install xubuntu to an external hdd
[18:38] <beachbuddah> can do?  If so, how?  I mean what tools or magic needs to be performed?
[18:39] <bazhang> point the installer to the hdd
[18:39] <beachbuddah> ok..
[18:39] <beachbuddah> that's it?
[18:39] <bazhang> what fs is on it now
[18:40] <beachbuddah> ext4
[18:40] <bazhang> will this drive be shared with other os
[18:41] <beachbuddah> no I am screwed on my main hdd - ubuntu tahr is there but when I try to boot it i get the nasty ol'  OS Not Found message
[18:42] <bazhang> but the liveusb boots fine
[18:42] <beachbuddah> but I would rather not reinstall on that partition, all my good junk is there (in an encrypted home folder - oops) and I would prefer to rescue it after I have a working full os again
[18:42] <beachbuddah> thought I would try out xubuntu when 15.04 came out, but now is as good a time as any
[18:43] <amari> beachbuddah: It should be already stable enough right now ;),in case you don't want to wait
[18:43] <beachbuddah> the live usb boots fine, but I ahve installed (once on the external hdd and once on another partition on the main hdd) and neither is read - I think whatever is used as an image must be corrupted?
[18:43] <bazhang> release of vivid is quite soon, so if you do all the updates etc it will regular vivd once its fully released
[18:44] <beachbuddah> I'm fairly easy - it won't give me headaches, trying to rescue my eoolishly encrypted data?
[18:44] <beachbuddah> that should be foolishly
[18:44] <bazhang> no way to know that in advance
[18:45] <beachbuddah> lol, of course
[18:45] <bazhang> always a good plan to have backups before trying that
[18:46] <beachbuddah> yes - backups existed but sadly, things went pearshaped quite recently and they are gone baby gone
[18:46] <beachbuddah> now this installer of which you speak
[18:46] <knome> amari, a beta or even an RC is never recommended on a production machine.
[18:47] <beachbuddah> before I point it anywhere, where do I acquire this magickal item?
[18:47] <amari> knome: But there is only one week and 2 days remaining until final. And xfce is usually very stable...
[18:47] <knome> amari, there is no "but"s
[18:48] <beachbuddah> stable buts, yes, but the installer...?
[18:50] <amari> knome: So you suggest he installs 14.10 now and updates to 15.04 next week? Do you think this is more stable than using the beta/RC? I don't think so...
[18:50] <amari> *upgrades
[18:51] <knome> amari, whether he is willing to take the risk or not with 15.04 is his own business, but if it's a production environment or any environment that requires stability, he shouldn't.
[18:52] <Unit193> It's not released yet, so could go boom tomorrow.
[18:52] <beachbuddah> amari - under my current circumstances - with the home folder encrypted and living either on a disk or in an OS that is corrupted, I think it is preferable to use a known stable release - I am actually dl 14.04
[18:52] <amari> 14.04 is a great option, since it is LTS ;)
[18:53] <beachbuddah> otherwise, had I just been curious about xubuntu, I would have considered the rc that is out now
[18:53] <beachbuddah> just what I was thinking
[18:54] <beachbuddah> and (since I am a pissy fool) I am a little cranky with ubuntu since it didn't install x2 for me in this crisis of mine - I'll show 'em, xubuntu here I come...
[18:55] <beachbuddah> now, earlier bazhang mentioned pointing the installer -
[18:55] <beachbuddah> just what is the installer and where do I get mine?
[18:56] <knome> if you are downloading a 14.04 ISO, you are getting the installer
[18:56] <beachbuddah> aww - aren't they generous...so I double click or extract here or...
[18:56] <beachbuddah> I may seem stupid, but thats only cause I am
[18:57] <beachbuddah> I have always installed off a live CD or usb before, so this installer is outside my realm of experience
[18:57] <knome> beachbuddah, just do the same as ever
[18:57] <Unit193> That is it, ubiquity is the installer used in the live session.
[19:00] <beachbuddah> well - my issue is that I now have linited resources, right?  the usb stick ( the one and only) is in the slot runing the live session - it (surpisingly)eats the cd/dvd controller resource so I cannot create a rescue cd else I would have so I will have the iso once the dl is complete - and that was the original Q - can I install to an external drive from a (I should have said pre-existing) liuveusb session
[19:01] <beachbuddah> as in right now - dl is complete, iso resting comfortably in the downloads folder after that exhausting ordeal, wondering what is in store for it next...
[19:06] <bazhang> thats quite different from your original question
[19:07] <beachbuddah> is it?  Then I apologize - I am flummoxed after two days of messing around and discovering how much I do not know
[19:09] <beachbuddah> Though, here I sit - in a live usb session, having downloaded xubuntu, wondering how to install said os to an external hdd
[19:32] <beachbuddah> Well, bazhang, knome, amari, unit193 all of you for your time and assistance.  Problem not solved, but you tried - in #ubuntu, I didn't even get a response to the question
[19:32] <beachbuddah> have a great day all