[01:29] anyone have a suggestion for easy backup with at least some multiple versioning? [01:35] does anyone have any idea when the stable version of plasma5 will be coming out? [01:36] yahyaa: if you ask the devs, they will probably tell you "when it's finished" :D [01:37] by sayind devs are u refering to the developers? and if so how do I contact them? [01:37] not sure but I would think kde.org might be a good start [01:37] ok thanks [01:38] yahyaa: you could always install virtualbox, create a vm and test the "beta-ish" build yourself [01:38] some of the distros are including it === said is now known as said_ === said_ is now known as saidox [03:26] hello i have plasma 5.2.2 and i have a probleme with mouse right click in the desktop the probleme it doesn't show the menu bar as it should be can some one know why this happening with me === saidox is now known as kairox [03:44] kairox: it's a bug [03:45] KDE bug 346191 [03:45] KDE bug 346191 in components "no right-click menus on the desktop after today's updates" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346191 [04:01] should be confirmed by now, good grief [04:02] valorie: can you give me screenshot of the Mouse Actions page from desktop settings? [04:02] (I can not reproduce it with -git packages, but shot in blue.. I have some idea) [04:03] well, krunner is also broken today [04:03] as well as the search in kicker [04:03] So I'm not the only one :D [04:03] valorie: you can open desktop settings from hamburger menu [04:03] I logged a bug on plasma-desktop earlier for this. [04:04] it sound to me more like packaging problem.. [04:04] yes, I filed bugs both on bko and launchpad [04:04] can any of you run plasmashell from konsole. and see what it outputs when you right click? [04:05] kf5.kiconthemes: "Theme tree: (Compass)" <-- output from that execution [04:05] no no.. [04:05] Etriaph: kill plasmashell first; then run plasmashell [04:05] Ah, one moment [04:06] pkill plasmashell; plasmashell [04:06] No output [04:07] i.e plasmashell itself doesn't output anything? or when you rightclick? [04:07] When I right-click [04:07] Lots of debugging output of course, just nothing on that action [04:08] alright; now can you open Desktop settings from hamburger menu? [04:08] bshah: http://imgur.com/D8Jh3UA [04:08] Yup. [04:09] something ate defaults [04:10] Can it be rebound? [04:10] not sure where this file is on your kubuntu but; plasma/shells/org.kde.plasma.desktop/contents/defaults can you paste me it? [04:10] Oooh, it crashes when I try. [04:11] hm? any backtrace? [04:12] Oh... [04:12] Ya, will product [04:12] But... that whole tree is gone [04:12] It shows up on locate, but not on disk [04:12] wtf [04:12] Which means the update removed it. [04:12] It's in /usr/share/plasma fyi [04:12] Or that's where locate reported it. [04:13] okay what are the dirs in /usr/share/plasma/shells/ ? [04:14] bshah: https://paste.kde.org/pnaoiegh9 [04:15] RightButton;NoModifier=org.kde.contextmenu [04:15] /usr/share/plasma/shells/org.kde.plasma.desktop [04:15] sounds sane [04:15] Contains contents and metadata.desktop [04:16] does it work with blank session (i.e test user?) [04:16] Um, I can try if you wish. [04:16] would be helpful [04:16] One sec... [04:17] afaik it worked until today's updates [04:17] anyway to know what files got update? [04:17] there was a user complaining on G+ so I tested [04:17] s/files/packages [04:17] hmmm, yes -- I think [04:18] this is indeed specific to kubuntu [04:18] darn it, there is an apt history file somewhere [04:18] Argh, can't switch users gonna log out and test, one sec.. [04:20] https://paste.kde.org/pepneigs7 [04:20] Yup, same on a new account. [04:22] I wonder if it is bug related to kconfig and /etc --- something [04:23] kdeinit5 has no bug reporting address, so crashes can't be reported? [04:25] depends upon crash.. [04:25] you can report but you have to do it manually [04:28] can you give me the cat ~/.config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc ? [04:29] s/cat// [04:30] https://paste.kde.org/pxpywm6px [04:31] buh there is no Actions part there.. [04:31] :\ [04:31] [ActionPlugins][127] [04:32] RightButton;NoModifier=org.kde.contextmenu [04:32] like I have this [04:32] can you add new action in Mouse action or that also doesn't work? [04:34] Etriaph: valorie: ^ [04:35] there is a button in systemsettings, but I have no clue what to do with it? [04:35] Add Action [04:35] but how does one do that? [04:35] That's what caused the crashed for me valorie [04:35] If I click on that button, then right-click, kdeinit5 crashes [04:35] I don't have a mouse .... well I guess I could get a mouse [04:35] click on it.. it will tell "Input Action" now and then right-click [04:35] I have a touchpad [04:36] Etriaph: can you fetch the backtrace? [04:36] ha, that crashed plasma [04:36] when I right-clicked [04:36] bshah, ya one sec [04:36] valorie: Ya :( [04:36] Executable: plasmashell PID: 1556 Signal: Segmentation fault (11) Time: 4/14/15 21:36:10 [04:37] Ibacktrace from developer information would be helpful [04:37] debug in gdb? [04:37] Do you want it pasted or reported? [04:37] I have it in the dialog. [04:37] Etriaph: paste it please [04:38] https://paste.kde.org/pgabukmfr [04:38] * valorie is getting missing debug packages [04:39] Etriaph: can you paste it on https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346191 too? [04:39] KDE bug 346191 in general "no right-click menus on the desktop after today's updates" [Normal,Unconfirmed] === fabio is now known as KF1 [04:40] gah, it wants me to restart [04:40] one report is enough I think, right? [04:41] I'm reporting it now [04:41] Under plasmahsell > Desktop Dashboard [04:42] Or what would be more appropriate? [04:43] Etriaph: no no; don't report new bug.. [04:44] please put it in bug I pointed as comment [04:45] Oh... [04:45] I just logged it. [04:46] So paste the backtrace as a comment on 346191? [04:46] works for now.. I will add a comment [04:48] I can not think of anything for now.. I have to run at university in sometime.. [04:48] so see you.. [04:48] will try to debug it later.. [04:48] Take it easy. [05:11] Found another, strange bug. [05:12] If I try to switch users the Alt-F2 dialog appears and the text 'SESSIONS' is populated there. [05:14] whoa, strange [05:14] for me, krunner doesn't work at all today [05:15] also filed a bug about that [05:15] bugs: both bko and launchpad [05:15] I didn't know how accustomed I was to right-clicking my desktop until today. [05:16] I don't miss that, but I sure miss krunner [05:16] Ya, I want my gg: back [05:19] Etriaph: more developers needed! [05:29] valorie: Not so seasoned with C++ as I am with other languages. [05:29] valorie: But I have considered it. Learning the ecosystem would take a while. [05:30] probably just needs porting [05:40] Er.. cannot save places in Dolphin either. [05:42] I've heard that mentioned, but don't know if a bug report has been filed [05:42] would be bko, not launchpad I believe [05:43] Yup, added confirmation. [05:43] On lp [05:43] Just two days away, how's the list lookin'? ;) [05:43] Or one day now I guess. [05:44] http://goo.gl/Chh7uh [05:44] is the list [05:44] !vivid [05:44] Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) will be the 22nd release of Ubuntu due for release in April 2015. Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1. For more info see the announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1425 [05:44] pfff [05:45] April 23rd is release, so lots of bug-fixing time [05:46] 16th is RC though yes? [05:46] RC is out when it's out [05:46] LOL [05:46] final freeze is on the 16th [05:46] really, they have held it back for days sometimes [05:46] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseSchedule [05:48] It's also marked as the RC, that's why I mentioned it. [05:50] right, but that is a moving target sometimes [05:50] * Etriaph nods [05:51] let me put it this way: the RC will be out before final release [05:51] :-) [05:52] I'm really impressed by just how stable it actually is. None of the software I made use of prior to 15.04 is unavailable in a way that I can't work. I absolutely don't understand why people still use GNOME [05:54] I think the only app that I've fought with has been Kmail [05:54] If I were to help out with KDE or related apps, it would be that one. [05:56] the kdepim team is great! [05:56] I'm not sure they'd like what I have to say about kmail LOL [05:56] but getting your plugin into krunner would be trivial I think [05:56] I miss kmail [05:56] it just doesn't work for me anymore [05:57] hopefully one of these days again [05:57] I've never tried anything else I like [05:57] I think the UI needs a modernization; the workflow if you have more than one account configured is painful. [05:59] If you think they would be receptive to the conversation, though, I'd be interested to know who to speak with to see what could be done. [06:01] Etriaph: join #kontact [06:01] read up on the links in the /topic as usual [06:01] I'll add it to my channel list for tomorrow. [06:01] cool [06:01] if you start fixing bugs, or docu or whatever [06:02] your opinion is worth as much as anybody else [06:02] I think I'd be likely to create mock-ups in QML so it could be plugged in easily to back-end code if they so chose. [06:02] potshots from the sidelines can be ignored, but users and devels have valuable opinions [06:02] cool [06:03] But I'll chat with them tomorrow about it. [06:03] like I said, listen and read for a bit [06:03] it would be lovely to have a kubuntu person on that team [06:03] I at one point wanted to assist with the Kubuntu website, but Wordpress having been chosen and no one really owning it, I switched to paying work for something to keep me busy at the time. [06:04] people have really stepped up for the website [06:04] we had an SoK student do some work, but IMO it was rather a mess [06:06] Riddell had said I should just start making changes when I was speaking with him, but I'm not sure anyone had really decided on a direction except that it had to change [06:07] Web/Social Media should be 2 sides of the same coin: Promotion. [06:07] my memory is a bit hazy, but it seems that some of our Romanian users made a nice site, and then offered to move that work to the Kubuntu site [06:08] Do you know where the existing test site is? [06:08] I think it should be ready for release day [06:10] When ovidiu-florin sent out the email to the devel list, he neglected to add a link. [06:10] looking for a link [06:10] http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/ [06:10] I think [06:11] yes [06:13] Oy that image takes a while to transfer. [06:17] yes, I think some images need to be optimized [06:17] I'm sure they could use help still [06:23] good morning [06:24] Good morning soee [06:24] hiho Etriaph [06:34] OK, that's all of my feedback sent for the day. [06:34] Time for sleepies. [06:34] Catch ya on the flipside! === v3nd3tta is now known as v3nd3tta`` [08:05] right now kubuntu is crashing for me when i try to log in [08:05] X (and sddm) is starting up, but when i try to log in it's showing me KDE's loading bar and then X/sddm restarts [08:06] s_20: nvidia gpu ? [08:06] yes [08:06] prime ? [08:06] *optimus [08:06] yes3 [08:06] do you have latets updates ? [08:06] *latest [08:07] i just updated a few minutes ago [08:07] the fonts in sddm are..weird as well all of a sudden [08:07] wel had the same, but i was abel to run nvidia drivers yesterday [08:08] s_20: what driver version are you running ? [08:08] im not sure if it is related but i have 346 [08:09] 340 apparently [08:10] s_20: can you update to 346 ? [08:10] doing it right now [08:11] soee: did you have the same problem with the weird fonts as well? [08:11] s_20: not exaclty fonts but resolution [08:11] they're way too small, as if the DPI setting changed, and some of them are just..blobs [08:11] as in completely blurry [08:11] might happen [08:12] s_20: than for a moment switch to intel profile - type in command line: sudo prime-select intel [08:12] soee: i'll try my luck with346 first [08:12] but thanks for the hint [08:12] yuo shoudl be able to login, than open nvidia-settings and check Nvidia profile, try to reboot [08:13] for me it ended with black screen (reboot) but after restart it worked [08:13] i'll just restart right away [08:14] ok, tell me then how it worked for you [08:18] okay, i'm in kde now [08:18] something strange happened to the fonts anyway [08:18] they're all *way* too small [08:19] and the alt-f2 launcher doesn't find anything anymore o_O [08:19] not even commands that are in the path [08:19] as in $PATH [08:20] s_20: there was an update yesterday to KF 5.9 [08:21] with this update search is broken and rightclick on desktop not working [08:21] this is known [08:21] soee: oh [08:21] i take that is going to get fixed soon..as that has a certain release critical air about it..? [08:21] s_20: the font size might be related to DPI settings [08:21] hello Is there a way to completely remove a gnome application? I accidentally installed avant window navigator and as it didnt work properly I removed it...that was at least what I thought but now it still wants to start at login and a bothersome session manager warning appears every time [08:21] s_20: yes shoudl be fixed soon [08:21] soee: i know, but i didn't change them :( [08:22] s_20: go to System Settings -> Fonts [08:22] and check DPI settings [08:22] i know, they're on automatic, as they always were [08:23] JunkHunk: how did you remove it ? [08:24] soee sudo apt-get purge avn [08:24] at least for now i'm in a state where i can work again..if the fonts bother me too much i can still change the DPI settings and i'll just hope the launcher will work again soon, i use it a lot [08:24] anyway, thank you for the hint about the nvidia drivers! [08:25] soee no, what I did was this: sudo ppa-purge ppa:awn-testing/ppa [08:26] JunkHunk: so you purged ppa not package it seems, purging ppa moves package to version from archive if available but not removing it [08:26] what is the package name of avant ? avn ? [08:27] than: sudo apt-get remove --purge avn [08:27] soee I never thought it would be this troublesome to uninstall something it reminds me windows days [08:27] JunkHunk: ppa purge revertes package version not packages it contains [08:27] soee I did this to install it: http://askubuntu.com/questions/453460/is-avant-window-navigator-available-for-ubuntu-14-04 [08:28] ok than: sudo apt-get remove --purge avant-window-navigator [08:32] soee it says it couldn't locate package avant-window-navigator [08:34] JunkHunk: it shoudl work but check if maybe it some different package name [08:34] but I still get this each login: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=86770 [08:35] soee it seems there is still something in the system related to AWN and the system still fetchs it [08:36] JunkHunk: go to System Settings -> Startup and check if ther eis some service related to avn that runs on startup [08:37] s_20: i have updated bug report with teh info you provided https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-prime/+bug/1428328 [08:37] Launchpad bug 1428328 in nvidia-prime (Ubuntu) "nvidia-prime needs sddm support" [Medium,Fix released] [08:38] soee: alright [08:39] i'm always a little confused by the way ubuntu handles nvidia drivers, it's a little more transparent on debian systems [08:39] as in "please update to 346 automatically if it's available" [08:41] s_20: not here i think, but 346 is marked as recommended [08:41] in drivers manager [08:44] soee no clue of AWN in system settings: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=86771 [08:45] soee http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=86772 [08:46] JunkHunk: does this shows any packages to be removed: sudo apt-get remove --purge avant* ? [08:47] soee no [08:48] soee just not installed packages and some unnecessary libmono and linux image... [08:50] so there left some configuration entry [08:50] some german forum http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/system-meckert-beim-start-ueber-fehlende-exec-/ [08:51] nothing related with AWN [08:56] soee okay thanks [09:02] soee this: grep -iR avant-window-navigator as far as I know it is used to find even symbolic links or recursive directories related to avant window navigator but...it does not find anything. this is annoying === havingFun is now known as xrosnight === kubuntu is now known as Guest10379 === bduncan_ is now known as bduncan === v3nd3tta`` is now known as v3nd3tta === bduncan__ is now known as bduncan [09:59] hi ho, anybody experienced no right mouse/wheel working on desktop after latest update? [10:06] Good afternoon. === bradley is now known as bradley_ === bradley_ is now known as bradley__ === anton is now known as Guest26783 === claudio_ is now known as devel === brandon is now known as Guest63312 [12:52] Hiyas all [14:05] hi all. i'm running the vivid beta and there a few bugs which i'd like to track down and report. [14:05] firstly krunner seems to have stopped working. i can type in the box but nothing is ever suggested and pressing return does nothing [14:06] i've tried shell commands, .desktop commands, simple maths... [14:07] secondly plasmashell seems to segfault every time i log in, but the bug reporter says the backtrace is useless even though i've installed debug symbols. can i clear out its config somewhere or get better logging? [14:08] any pointers? [14:08] bduncan: #ubuntu+1 for vivid support until stable [14:09] hateball: great, thanks === munty is now known as munti === luke__ is now known as NET||abuse === luke is now known as Guest31763 [16:01] How important is fstrim? I've had it multiple times now that I'm working and out of the blue, my laptop freezes completely, cant do anything.. I CTRL SHIFT F1 to text console, which takes about a minute to pop up, then login that takes another 5 minutes, then iotop, and yep, fstrim again.... Whatever it does, great, do it, but why does it have to lock up my laptop while I'm working? It feels like windows doing its shitty upgrades NOW no matter if [16:01] you're working or not... [16:21] In http://files.kde.org/snapshots/ is kubuntu-201504091327-amd64.iso the latest? [16:26] blubberbop: For an SSD it should increase performance or so I've heared. [16:27] lordievader: thats what the man page says, more or less.. But it should not completely lockup my laptop for the 15 minutes that its running, makes me really unhappy [16:28] Don't think you want to do it on mounted filesystems, but I have no experience with fstrim. [16:34] so i wasn't going mad with desktop search breaking then, saw the bug reports today. [19:16] hello I was wondering why I cannot play mov videos on mozilla firefox...and I came here for some help...I already have the quicktime plugin installed and mov videos will play perfectly on my host players mozilla firefox is the default web browser for kubuntu isnt it? [19:17] some system tweaking perhaps? codecs or something? [19:20] JunkHunk, install flashplugin-installer [19:23] BluesKaj: isn't it shipped with kubuntu-restricted-extras ? [19:24] soee: Not if you do not tick the box. [19:24] Ah, wait. Never mind. [19:24] ah, ok i thought it is :-) [19:26] what is the best video editor in your opinion ? oenshot, kdenlive ? [19:27] JunkHunk, copy quicktime rom wherever you installed it to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins [19:27] from [19:28] kdenlive [19:28] soee, yeah I was mistaken about flash, it's default with the restricted-extras [19:29] and has nothing to do with .mov files :) [19:29] true :) [19:29] should have read his question more closely [19:30] ahoneybun: ping [19:48] BluesKaj, okay I installed the flashplugin-installer but I dont know what you mean with the quicktime rom [19:48] I didnt install quicktime [19:48] do I need to? [19:48] JunkHunk, copy quicktime from wherever you installed it to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins [19:49] the quicktime plugin , JunkHunk [19:49] oh [19:49] its a firefox plugin [19:49] so I guess it is already in the plugins folder [19:50] ok is it in this file /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins ? [19:50] check to make sure [19:51] inside /home/me/.mozilla there is a folder called firefox and another one called extensions [19:51] in the extensions folder just a file: libflashplayer.so [19:53] what about /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins ? [19:54] http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=86799 [19:56] no quicktime plugin? [19:56] no quicktime plugin there JunkHunk , so the .mov files won't play in firefox [19:56] :-) [19:57] okay I grep -iR quicktime and there are quicktime for gimp, phonon-vlc...and so but none in firefox folders so definetely no plugin === Vito_ is now known as Vito [19:58] okay how do I get the plugin then? I tried the regular way that is using firefox plugins tab...where the quicktime plugin appear as installed... [19:59] JunkHunk: gecko-mediaplayer [19:59] JunkHunk: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/quicktime-plugin-play-audio-and-video [19:59] I've used it before, it works. [20:00] gecko-mediaplayer is in the repos [20:00] sudo apt-get install gecko-mediaplayer [20:00] okay thanks buddie [20:01] np [20:02] tuv0k, cool, thanks for the tip :) [20:02] yw [20:03] feels good to give back in some little bit [20:04] hmmm I feel a bit suspicious about installing gnome programs in kubuntu..will gnome-mplayer be safe to install? [20:04] yes [20:05] still not playing... [20:05] JunkHunk, yes gnome apps run fine on kubuntu [20:05] do I need to restart? [20:06] not fine at all [20:06] you try awn and see what happens [20:06] JunkHunk: what is the link you are trying to play? [20:06] though my problem might be I installed an outdated app in the latest kubuntu [20:06] is a dropbox video I made [20:06] ahhh [20:07] I can play it well in the desktop [20:07] but it wont play in the browser [20:07] can you try to visit an actuall site that has a mov video? [20:07] hmmm wise idea [20:08] http://trailers.apple.com/ [20:08] oh thanks [20:08] Now I remember why I installed it in the first place [20:08] to play apple trailers [20:08] heheh [20:09] :) [20:09] kodi takes care of that now [20:10] hmmm it is taking too long [20:10] I think I might need a reboot [20:10] most likely HD video [20:10] what is your connection like? [20:10] there are more sites adopting HTML5 without adverting it for testing purposes , I've discoveed a few ...was running with flash to find which ones [20:10] more than enough [20:10] do you see the video buffering [20:10] no [20:11] just gray [20:11] err without flash rather [20:11] at least restart firefox before you reboot the machine [20:11] I already did [20:11] a couple of times [20:11] are you running an adblocker? [20:11] script blocker? [20:12] good one but no [20:12] oh wait [20:12] I'm going to try myself now [20:12] yes [20:13] that was it [20:13] :) [20:13] addblock plus [20:13] lol, nice [20:13] now it is working [20:13] yup [20:14] so what's wrong with my video??? [20:14] I ll need to record it again [20:14] thanks anyway folks [20:14] see you later [20:14] peace === andreas_ is now known as andreas_k === andreas_ is now known as andreas_k === blubberbop is now known as phoenixz === \b is now known as benonsoftware