[11:23] <dzho> http://www.fsf.org/events/rms-20101017-akron
[11:23] <jenni> [ Richard Stallman to speak in Akron, OH — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software ] - https://j.mp/1CJvUBH
[15:24] <paultag> yay, akron
[16:28] <yano> y u no https
[16:28] <yano> stallman would be dissapoint
[16:53] <paultag> yano: email the fsf
[16:53] <paultag> they should https
[16:53] <yano> they do
[16:53] <paultag> 302 redirect
[16:53] <yano> they just don't do HSTS
[16:53] <paultag> ahh
[16:53] <yano> if you use HTTPS Everywhere it forces fsf.org to use https
[16:53] <yano> and btw, HTTPS Everywhere is now available for Firefox Mobile \o/
[16:54] <paultag> :D
[17:40] <jrgifford> I thought stallman doesn't like the certificate authority scheme?
[17:41] <dzho> remember, this is the guy who has web pages emailed to him
[17:41] <dzho> so, what stallman "likes" about the web is sort of hard to compare to the experience nearly everyone else who uses it has
[17:41] <jrgifford> lol
[17:41] <jrgifford> i'm surprised they have ical documents that open in os x calendar...
[17:48] <yano> i think ical is an open format
[17:50] <jrgifford> Yeah, looks like it is. thought it was just a format that everyone was abusing from apple and hadn't gotten sued over.
[17:57] <yano> ah
[17:57] <yano> just because it has an "i" in front of it doesn't meant it belogns to Apple :-P
[18:01] <dzho> see, for instance "inguinal hernia"
[18:01] <jrgifford> lol
[18:02] <dzho> (actually, don't see that.  wikipedia article illustration may be considered NSFW)
[18:02] <jrgifford> kk. won't look.
[19:43] <thafreak> wow, he's speaking at Kent...I wonder who invited him?
[19:43] <thafreak> There is a new LUG on campus...wonder if they invited him
[19:44] <thafreak> The Kent ACM chapter convinced bjarne stroustrup to come give a talk on like c++13 or whatever was the upcoming version at the time
[20:13] <andygraybeal> https://peoplesjusticeleague.com/  <--- did i mess up the security cert with this site?
[20:13] <jenni> [ People's Justice League ] - https://j.mp/1DIQd6f
[20:14] <andygraybeal> my browser says it is fine.
[20:18] <dzho> wfm
[20:18] <andygraybeal> thanks dzho
[20:19] <dzho> mind, we're probably using similar browser and os
[20:20] <andygraybeal> yea, i have no idea what htis guy is using
[20:21] <dzho> also, on my S3 with Firefox from f-droid
[20:21] <andygraybeal> thanks
[20:21] <dzho> np
[20:22] <andygraybeal> my firefox and chrome says it is fine
[20:23] <dzho> yeah, absent trying every browser/OS combination, I think you're in pretty good shape.  Is someone reporting a problem?
[20:23] <andygraybeal> yea
[20:23] <andygraybeal> thank you for the help.
[20:24] <yano> peoplesjusticeleague.com uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is not trusted because no issuer chain was provided.
[20:24] <andygraybeal> thank you yano
[20:24] <yano> yw
[20:24] <andygraybeal> man.... i thought it did it right.. my browser says it is trusted
[20:24] <Unit193> If you visit another site that uses the same chain, Firefox will cache it.
[20:26] <andygraybeal> yano, how do you get that info to come up?
[20:26] <andygraybeal> is there something i can run to see the same thing you are?
[20:26] <yano> i tried via Tor Browser Bundle
[20:26] <Unit193> :cert show
[20:26] <andygraybeal> so i just need some kind of chain certificate?
[20:26] <yano> which disables its caching
[20:26] <yano> yea
[20:26] <yano> are you using nginx?
[20:26] <yano> or apache?
[20:26] <andygraybeal> apache
[20:26] <dzho> oh, this is an intermediate cert problem then?
[20:27] <yano> yea
[20:27] <Unit193> Alioth had that same problem. :D
[20:27] <yano> you can also check here, https://www.sslshopper.com/ssl-checker.html
[20:27] <jenni> [ SSL Checker - SSL Certificate Verify ] - https://j.mp/1CP8Z6O
[20:27] <andygraybeal> thank yo uyano
[20:27] <Unit193> It likes my cert, well except for Loki's.
[20:28] <yano> this might help, http://www.entrust.net/knowledge-base/technote.cfm?tn=7563
[20:28] <jenni> [ How is the Chain Certificate installed in Apache (OpenSSL)? — Technote Article — Entrust ] - https://j.mp/1CP9bmp
[20:28] <andygraybeal> yea, i think i understand how to do the chain, but thank you for the docs
[20:28] <andygraybeal> i think i've done the chain before..... 
[20:29] <andygraybeal> alight, i have to sharpen some blades.  thank you i will work on this later.  i'm getting so tired of computers.
[20:31] <dzho> this is where I start alternating between despair and desperately complicated invocations of "openssl s_client"
[21:23] <andygraybeal> :)