=== BinLi is now known as BinLi-afk === BinLi-afk is now known as BinLI === BinLI is now known as BinLi [04:38] so is the process of getting those snap packages on a current image a nation state secret? [04:38] * tbr still hasn't found a way to sign or do disable the signature check [08:36] Good morning all; happy High Five Day! :-D [08:59] tbr, --allow-unauthenticated ... (as snappy install option) === zer0x is now known as xteraniux [09:19] ogra_: $ snappy-remote --url=ssh://192.168.122.121 --allow-unauthenticated install ./hello-world.canonical_1.0.5_all.snap [09:19] ogra_: unknown flag `allow-unauthenticated' [09:19] oh, remote ... that i dont know ... [09:20] remote is what TFM tells me to use [09:20] * ogra_ just uses an ssh shell usually [09:20] scp ... snappy install ... [09:20] ok, that I can try [09:21] the whole "forget everything you learned about package management and apt" thing makes me approach this from TFM side, instead of trying random things [09:21] yeah, but everyone is busy ... the manuals are often a bit behind and updated last once a feature works [09:22] and alongside, everyone is at a sprint in US TZ [09:22] which doesnt make IRC actually a good place this week [09:22] (for support) [09:22] * tbr mumbles something about potemkin villages and goe sto figure this out the hard way [09:23] ubuntu@localhost:~$ snappy --allow-unauthenticated install /tmp/hello-world.canonical_1.0.5_all.snap [09:23] unknown flag `allow-unauthenticated' [09:24] this is from inside the image [09:24] Name Date Version Developer [09:24] ubuntu-core 2015-04-10 146 [09:24] i think install needs to come first [09:24] ok, now it asks for root, progress [09:25] yay. it installed. [09:25] \o/ [09:27] so I guess the only way to get something workable is to toss out snappy-remote and reinvent the wheel with a wrapper script around scp and "ssh ubuntu@foo sudo snappy install --allow-unauthenticated $bar"? [09:27] yeah, i think there is a bug open for that somewhere [09:27] yes, I found it and it was not helpful [09:28] bug 1443676 [09:28] bah, no bot ? [09:28] https://bugs.launchpad.net/snappy-ubuntu/+bug/1443676 [09:28] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1443676 [09:28] heh [09:28] *snap* [09:28] :P [09:28] :> === xteraniux is now known as zer0x === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [13:33] * dholbach hugs davidcalle [13:33] :-) [13:33] davidcalle: if dholbach said and maybe jump off a cliff....... ;) [13:34] davidcalle: on a more serious note \o/ [13:34] davmor2, I would... I would not... that's a hard question, I trust him! :p [13:35] davidcalle: hahaha :) [13:37] dholbach, are there install instructions for the raspi2 we could include in /install? (I know it's an image ready to burn, but we should probably have a small something) [13:41] davidcalle, not yet - I'll find out more though [13:44] davidcalle, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/snappy-devel/2015-April/000463.html [13:44] I'll talk to lool- once I see him around here [13:44] and see if the instructions are going to get any more official [13:44] the great thing is that all devices which have oem snaps in the store can just use ubuntu-device-flash to have their image created on the fly [13:45] so we can at some stage just have a big table with instructions for lots of different devices :) [13:45] dholbach: had to step out for a call sorry [13:45] lool-, no worries === lool- is now known as lool [13:47] dholbach, thanks [13:47] lool, hey :) [13:48] davidcalle, I'll note down to add a table to install/devices (or shall we call it start/devices)? [13:48] sorry start/things [13:48] davidcalle: heya [13:48] davidcalle: how goes? [13:49] dholbach, start/devices sounds great to me [13:49] lool, all is well, you? [13:50] davidcalle, I think dpm wanted to call it things (just like ubuntu.com/things) [13:50] but yeah, I'll rename the 'install' section to 'start' [13:51] that'll also set the direction for the /start [13:51] we could add content like "hey, install the ppa" first because it's going to be relevant for everything else [13:52] davidcalle: well well [13:52] dholbach, +1 [13:55] cool, I'll start work on this in half an hour or something === kickinz1|afk is now known as kickinz1 [14:17] jdstrand, did that framework bug get fixed? [14:19] asac, can I be in ~snappy-dev? [14:19] mterry: it is supposed to be in 0.3.7. I got a report that it may not be, however the 'snaps don't specify release framework' work that landed means there is another bug now [14:19] I'm looking at it now [14:19] jdstrand, OK. So I should continue not to specify a framework :) [14:20] for now-- don't update your image just yet either :) [14:20] mterry: I suggest not upgrading and not specifying the framework for now. hopefully be eod you can do both [14:21] jdstrand, gotcha. Can you ping me when I can? I'd like to publish instructions for using the scripts today, and that would be a nice bug to not have to mention [14:21] sure [14:21] thx! [14:22] dholbach: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/image-channels/ - I don't think so; particularly as our "channel" nomenclature is meant to be changing [14:29] slangasek, right... it'd be still good if we could come up with something like that... even if we have to change it [14:30] asac: ^^ you said sabdfl had some guidance about the use of edge (devel-proposed) vs. alpha (devel)? What is our messaging around channels for 15.04? [14:31] dholbach: btw, how do I submit changes to https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/image-channels/ since most of the channels listed there also need to be deprecated? ;-) [14:33] slangasek, if you want, I can give you access to the site, or a bug on developer-ubuntu-com will do as well [14:43] dholbach: thanks, filing that in my brain for later - the channel schema needs to really be changed on the server first before we make the changes to the website [14:43] and in peoples brains :) [14:43] which is the harder part i guess ... [14:47] thanks slangasek === vhahn is now known as volker === volker is now known as volkrass [15:02] Can somebody point me to correct version of ubuntu-device-flash what support the oem flag [15:03] I tried out this: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/snappy-devel/2015-April/000463.html [15:04] But I got message: unknown flag `oem' when I try reproduce what Loic did. [15:04] Any hints for me? === kirkland` is now known as kirkland === kickinz1 is now known as kickinz1|afk === kickinz1|afk is now known as kickinz1 === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach === kickinz1 is now known as kickinz1|afk === kickinz1|afk is now known as kickinz1 === kickinz1 is now known as kickinz1|afk === kickinz1|afk is now known as kickinz1 [20:56] Chipaca: http://people.canonical.com/~jamie/snappy/test-snap-foo-framework_1.3_all.snap [21:07] jdstrand: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10835145/ [22:06] jdstrand: kickinz1 https://gist.github.com/sergiusens/8d4d2b99b2e5d87c7a50 [22:07] sergiusens, Thanks! [22:52] Chipaca: https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/goget-ubuntu-touch/catchupToInstall/+merge/256602 [23:10] Chipaca: https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/goget-ubuntu-touch/tarmac/+merge/256604