[00:36] <AskUbuntu> BQ E 4.5 ubuntu edition doesn't show any images from the scopes nor the app icons | http://askubuntu.com/q/609800
[04:19] <veryrandomnick> is there any reason not to update a phone? for example if I want to run a custom rom on it
[06:14] <AskUbuntu> Download or install failed | http://askubuntu.com/q/609874
[06:44] <zbenjamin> lool-: sure
[06:45] <robin-hero> Hi all!  Is somebody can tell me where is ubuntu touch store the Messaging app's SMS messages? And if I am copying this db file to an other Ubuntu Touch device (or emulator) will it work?
[06:50] <liuxg> does anyone use PositionSource QML API? I find that it does not give me the position info on Nexus 4.
[06:52] <PhilippeP> Yeah another sunny day !
[07:07] <zbenjamin> lool-: beuno: https://bugs.launchpad.net/software-center-agent/+bug/1444832
[07:13] <robin-hero> I found the SMS db, is it at .local/share/history-service/history.sql. :) Now the only question, If I am copying this file to an other device will it work? I can't test it now, maybe later
[08:30] <mandel> ogra_, did you take a look at the debs I sent, I'd like to get some feedback. It does work better, but needs improvement.. :-/
[08:31] <ogra_> mandel, just saw the mail, checking now
[08:31] <ogra_> (well, or soon, my device is currently flashing)
[08:33] <mandel> ogra_, awesome, I'm going to be on and off the entire day testing it outside, in case anyone is looking for me
[08:36] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy High Five Day! :-D
[08:43]  * brunch875 high fives JamesTait!
[08:44] <JamesTait> brunch875, (ｏ・_・)ノヽ(・_・ｏ)
[08:45] <brunch875> ( ‘-’)人(ﾟ_ﾟ )
[08:46] <sheer> pls
[08:46] <sheer> keep it G
[08:47] <robin-hero> Any info about the OTA? If it will not relase today I'll be a sad panda :(
[08:48] <brunch875> It's up to BQ now. Let's hope they don't delay...
[08:48] <brunch875> Makes me want to hop on the devel channek
[08:50] <robin-hero> brunch875: Yeah, me too
[09:06] <Se7> morning
[09:10] <robin-hero> morning
[09:10] <brunch875> morning!
[09:10] <Se7> :))
[09:10] <Se7> no update yet brunch875
[09:11] <Se7> :P
[09:11] <brunch875> I should contact support: "Is update ready yet?" They'll think "How do they know!?"
[09:11] <brunch875> haha
[09:12] <Se7> lol
[09:14] <ogra_> popey, i guess we will now monthly need the #ubuntu-release-party bot in here ...
[09:14] <popey> hah
[09:14] <popey> !isitoutyet
[09:14] <popey> hah :)
[09:14] <ogra_> lol
[09:14] <brunch875> hahaha
[09:14] <ogra_> liar !
[09:15] <robin-hero> :D
[09:22] <davmor2> no it's not lying 14.10 has been out for a while :P
[09:44] <jgdx> abeato, do you have telephony issues on arale?
[09:46] <abeato> jgdx, voice calls work fine for me
[09:47] <jgdx> abeato, me too, but at some point I'm not receiving sms, calls, nor can I place calls or send sms.
[09:47] <jgdx> and there's nothing user facing to indicate that anything has gone wrong
[09:48] <abeato> jgdx, hmm... I've not seen that... are you registered to the network when that happens?
[09:48] <jgdx> abeato, yes and 4G is indicated
[09:48] <jgdx> data works in that state
[09:49] <abeato> jgdx, ok, can you reproduce easily?
[09:49] <abeato> it that is the case first thing would be to try the same with ofono scripts
[09:49] <abeato> to start narrowing the problem
[09:50] <abeato> dial-number for calls
[09:50] <jgdx> abeato, right
[09:50] <abeato> send-sms for SMS
[09:50] <jgdx> okay, anything else? Maybe dump list modems?
[09:50] <abeato> the use monitor-ofono to see incoming SMS/calls
[09:50] <abeato> yes, that would be great
[09:51] <abeato> jgdx, btw, rmescandon has hit this bug in vivid:
[09:51] <abeato> 1444870
[09:51] <abeato> bug #1444870
[09:51] <jgdx> abeato, just saw
[09:52] <abeato> there is a weird string appended to MessageProxy
[09:53] <jgdx> that's the editor allright
[09:54] <abeato> yes, that's what it looks like
[10:31] <ogra_> mandel, looks good !
[10:31] <ogra_> it is a little jumpy, after initially only showing a small dot on the point it now switched to a bigger circle about 1km north of me
[10:32] <ogra_> (the initial dot was exactly on my house)
[10:36] <mandel> ogra_, yes, I noticed that too, I'm looking into the client lib and the maps too see which positions we are getting and why it jumps like that
[10:36] <mandel> ogra_, the here process sometimes fails too.. dealing with that
[10:36] <ogra_> mandel, oh, note that i'm on arale currently :)
[10:36] <mandel> ogra_, yes, I've tested all the devices I know off
[10:37] <mandel> ogra_, back to go for a spin again to test it
[10:37] <ogra_> my battery is at 7% ... once it charged a bit i'll go to the garden :)
[10:38] <mandel> ogra_, sweet, I should have a silo soon with a few changes in
[10:39] <mandel> ogra_, waiting on QA
[11:08] <brunch875> Still no update from BQ. WHY YOOOOUUUU!!!
[11:11] <mcphail> bq are masters of suspense
[11:14] <ogra_> brunch875, better safe than sorry :) they simply do intensive testing :)
[11:17] <mariogrip> seems like the kernel.ubuntu.com git web is down :(
[11:22] <ogra_> mariogrip, did you ping #ubuntu-kernel about that yet ?
[11:22]  * popey just pinged in #is
[11:22] <ogra_> god
[11:22] <ogra_> err
[11:22] <ogra_> good
[11:23] <brunch875> god errs good?
[11:23] <ogra_> lol
[11:23]  * mcphail already realised popey was omnipresent but that is a step too far
[11:23] <davmor2> ogra_: make your mind up either God erred or he's good you can't have it both ways ;)
[11:25] <mariogrip> :D
[11:34] <ogra_> popey, ouch ... did you hear you shouldnt upgrade N7 to lollipop ?
[11:35] <brunch875> ¿Because it breaks the N7 or because it breaks ubuntu touch?
[11:35] <ogra_> it breaks the N7
[11:35] <brunch875> yikes!
[11:35]  * ogra_ read some articles about it 
[11:35] <ogra_> 5.0 that is ...
[11:35] <brunch875> soft brick I suspect though
[11:35] <ogra_> not sure
[11:35] <brunch875> so if you're a hacker it doesn't matter :D
[11:35] <davmor2> ogra_: how it's fine on wifies n7
[11:36] <juzzlin_> my 2012 N7 is working fine with 5.0.1
[11:36] <juzzlin_> it's slow and crap, but still
[11:36] <mariogrip> i got a sms from ups saying that i will get a package today, i wonder what that can be :D #bq-ubuntu-phone
[11:36] <davmor2> ogra_: onlt thing I have to do was go into recovery and wipe the cache then it worked fine
[11:37] <davmor2> mariogrip: a box
[11:37] <mariogrip> davmor2: xP
[11:38] <davmor2> mariogrip: sometimes a box and a plastic bag
[11:39] <ogra_> http://9to5google.com/2015/04/10/nexus-5-nexus-7-bricked-android-lollipop/
[11:39] <ogra_> http://androidcommunity.com/lollipop-not-good-for-nexus-5-and-nexus-7-units-being-bricked-20150413/
[11:39] <ogra_> etc etc ...
[11:39] <ogra_> doesnt seem to happen to all of them
[11:40] <mcphail> people run _android_ on nexus devices? sheesh - don't they know UT exists?
[11:42] <popey> ogra_: nice. might roll back then
[11:42] <popey> mine isn't bricked
[11:42] <popey> its been on 5 for months
[11:42] <popey> it just wont OTA
[11:50] <davmor2> ogra_: wifies had issues on n5 and n7.  The battery drain was chronic apps weren't opening etc looked it up and said to wipe the cache from recovery.  I that and they've had no issues since, so happy wifie :)
[11:51] <ogra_> :)
[11:51] <cwayne> davmor2, same thing here for n5
[11:51] <cwayne> had to roll back fiancee to kitkat
[11:51] <cwayne> that's a funny sentence
[11:51] <ogra_> that is what you get for not using Ubuntu :)
[11:54] <cwayne> ogra_, i got her whole family's desktops on it, so there's progress :)
[11:55] <ogra_> well, phones next then :)
[11:56] <popey> back to 4.4.4 I go
[11:56] <davmor2> ogra_: for wifie you would have to have all the stupid games she plays available :)
[11:56] <ogra_> no, you would have to write clones :)
[12:02] <davmor2> ogra_: trust me you don't want me writing code ;)
[12:41] <mariogrip> look what i got! https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/sdOQcALz/IMG_20150416_143940.jpg
[12:45] <PhilippeP> a cat and a box .... hmmm
[12:47] <cwayne> mariogrip, nice!
[12:47] <davmor2> PhilippeP: now you know why they call mariogrip Schroedinger
[12:48] <davmor2> mariogrip: congrats
[12:49] <mariogrip> :D
[12:51] <popey> wow, what a fabulous looking cat!
[12:52]  * ogra_ wonders why he gets "server not found" ...
[12:52] <mariogrip> popey: :)
[13:00] <robin-hero> No OTA update still... Why bq testing the device this long? :)
[13:00] <mcphail> My "updates" spinny just keeps spinning
[13:01] <davmor2> popey: apparently you should have one too, did you not see one in your bq box, I'd want a refund if I was you ;)
[13:01] <popey> heh
[13:04] <davmor2> robin-hero: our QA team have a 60 hour regression plan, it only covers the bare minimum of test that is a week and half of one persons work life.  We are adding tests to it daily,  Their suite is probably much bigger than that as they have been testing phones longer
[13:05] <davmor2> robin-hero: also their final concern is that their customers have a great experience with their products so want to be sure it works well.  You should be happy it's taking so long to ensure you get a good image :)
[13:08] <mariogrip> popey: FYI, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git is has a 503 error :(
[13:08] <mariogrip> still has*
[13:08] <robin-hero> davmor2: Yes, I know, But I'm waiting it for weeks :)
[13:09] <popey> mariogrip: yeah, I asked IS.
[13:10] <mariogrip> popey: okay
[13:10] <popey> mariogrip: they're aware of it.
[13:10] <popey> np
[13:44] <Se7> https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/04/16/phone-updates-april/?utm_source=ubunteu&utm_medium=url_shortner&utm_term=Alss9r&utm_campaign=shortner
[14:14] <john-mcaleely> popey, is my understanding of this bug
[14:14] <john-mcaleely> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1423185
[14:14] <john-mcaleely> correct?
[14:15] <john-mcaleely> (comment 8)
[14:15] <popey> john-mcaleely: interesting, I haven't seen that bug for a while
[14:16] <john-mcaleely> hmm
[14:16] <popey> it was in progress until we realised it was a bug in eds
[14:16] <popey> which renatu fixed
[14:16] <popey> (note: there may be other bugs in eds) :)
[14:18] <elopio> ping renatu: here is a little improvement to the autopilot inheritance:
[14:18] <elopio> https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/address-book-app/fix_base_class/+merge/256243
[14:18] <elopio> can you please give it a review?
[14:19] <renatu> elopio, sure
[14:26] <john-mcaleely> popey, so, i'd bet something has been fixed. but if I tapped in the past, it still crashed :-)
[14:27] <john-mcaleely> (well, sometimes it hung. but almost the same thing)
[14:28] <popey> I can't get that to fail here on my krillin
[14:28] <popey> what are you _doing_!? :)
[14:28] <john-mcaleely> choosing a 'any' date earlier than today in the year view
[14:29] <john-mcaleely> I have OTA3 installed
[14:29] <john-mcaleely> ie, I'm on the rc channel
[14:29] <john-mcaleely> my phone is also freshly wiped, and has no accounts installed to sync
[14:30] <john-mcaleely> so the calendar's basically empty
[14:30] <popey> ah, interesting
[14:30] <john-mcaleely> hmm. that might matter
[14:30] <popey> i have accounts
[14:30] <popey> and am also on OTA3
[14:30] <popey> sounds like we need a new bug report with those details
[14:30] <john-mcaleely> so, our oem qa team claim the bug is not fixed. haven't actually got their repro from them yet
[14:31] <john-mcaleely> ok, I'll get that
[14:31] <popey> ta
[14:31] <popey> public
[14:31] <john-mcaleely> yup
[14:31] <Sander^work> Is there some alternative browsers I can use?
[14:31] <john-mcaleely> popey, can you clarify the bug status wrt the calendar app?
[14:31] <john-mcaleely> on the bug
[14:32] <john-mcaleely> ie 'not an app bug'
[14:32] <popey> ya
[14:32] <ogra_> Sander^work, search the store, i think there is one alternative one ...
[14:32] <brunch875> still no updates from BQ...
[14:32] <ogra_> brunch875, soon :)
[14:32] <ogra_> will happen today ...
[14:32] <brunch875> :[[[[[[[[
[14:33] <brunch875> are you sure? I'm not that sure
[14:33] <brunch875> we need a bot to place bets :P
[14:33] <ogra_> brunch875, yeah, promised :)
[14:33] <kenvandine> ogra_ has spoken!
[14:33] <ogra_> if sil2100 dosnt accidentially hit the wrong button or some such (because i just distract him with a ping) ...
[14:33] <kenvandine> you can take that to the bank :)
[14:34] <ogra_> lol
[14:36] <davmor2> kenvandine: isn't that the line that pee'd of Steven Segal in Hard to kill?
[14:37] <davmor2> ogra_: keep an eye out for an angry looking pony tail from america he'll mostly be in black :D
[14:38] <ogra_> davmor2, i'll just hire dholbach with his bud spencer t-shirt ... that should easily cope with a steven segal :)
[14:39] <davmor2> ogra_: hahahaha
[14:39] <dholbach> ogra_, most people outside Central Europe don't know Bud Spencer :)
[14:40] <ogra_> geez ! what an educational lack !
[14:46] <davmor2> ogra_, dholbach: I know him I think, did he not work with Clint in a western early 70's  something Tyranny or Tyranny something
[14:47] <matv1> hmm statcounter says linux desktop use has almost doubled over the last 4 months in the north american region. That is weird
[14:47] <davmor2> looks a bit like indiana jones, Egyptian side kick in lost arc?
[14:47] <ogra_> davmor2, he did tons of "beat'em up" movies with terence hill in the 70s ...
[14:47] <matv1> as long as its off-topic day anyway :)
[14:48] <ogra_> davmor2, he weights about 200kg ... all muscules indeed :)
[14:48] <davmor2> ogra_: big beard too right
[14:48] <ogra_> davmor2, it is the typical movies that boys watch between 7-10 years of age :)
[14:48] <ogra_> yeah
[14:51] <davmor2> ogra_: yeah see I knew him :)
[14:51] <davmor2> ogra_: names I forget films I don't :)
[14:51] <ogra_> heh
[14:55] <sil2100> ogra_, brunch875: so BQ has finished testing and there's a general +1, we just need to check one thing to make sure we're not effected by bug LP: #1444347
[14:55] <brunch875> whoo!
[15:07]  * mcphail waits to see if brunch875's phone explodes before downloading
[15:08] <brunch875> hah! That won't happen. I hid it safely in the oven.
[15:32] <faenil> how are the modularScale values computed?
[15:32] <faenil> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/vivid/view/head:/modules/Ubuntu/Components/plugin/ucfontutils.cpp
[15:33] <faenil> where is 0.677 coming from?
[15:35] <ogra_> faenil, probably more a question for #ubuntu-app-devel
[15:35] <faenil> okay
[15:36] <ogra_> (since it is toolkit stuff)
[15:36] <faenil> sure, sorry
[15:39] <mcphail> I'd be obliged if someon could remind me of the invocation to install a click package which has been wgetted on to the phone
[15:40] <ogra_> pkcon install-local --allow-untrusted /path/to/.click
[15:40] <mcphail> ogra_: ty
[15:51] <brunch875> uh oh, my computer has something lose
[15:51] <brunch875> loose*
[15:51] <brunch875> whole desk is vibrating
[15:52] <k1l> what? do you use a v8 in it? :)
[15:52] <brunch875> oh well
[15:52] <brunch875> the vibrations are somewhat soothing
[15:52] <brunch875> I can get used to this
[16:01] <ment0s> Hi
[16:01] <brunch875> Hello!
[16:02] <ment0s> oculd some one tell me on  what stage is galaxy s3 with ubuntu touch ? Last updated on official site says 2013 with a lot of issues but I don't seem to find any new releases or fixes. Any info on this ?
[16:02] <mcphail> ment0s: as far as I can see, it has been abandoned :(
[16:02] <brunch875> my vote goes to that as well
[16:03] <mcphail> ment0s: even AOSP was dodgy on the S3
[16:03] <mcphail> no drivers/acceleration
[16:04] <ment0s> mcphail: right.
[16:04] <ment0s> mcphail: cheers
[16:04] <ment0s> Gonna try on nexus
[16:05]  * mcphail hopes someone will revive the S3 effort
[16:05] <ogra_> if you have the device, dont hold back !
[16:06] <mcphail> ogra_: just now, the device is my only internet access during the week. If I lose that I'm back in the 1980s :)
[16:06] <ogra_> order a bq then ... that will free up the S3 :)
[16:06] <mcphail> ogra_: I have, but I can't use adb on the bq and rndis at the same time...
[16:07] <ogra_> huh ?
[16:07] <ogra_> you surely can
[16:07] <mcphail> nope
[16:07] <ogra_> rndis and mtp are mutually exclusive ...
[16:07] <ogra_> rndis and adb work fine
[16:07] <mcphail> don't here
[16:08] <ogra_> does here
[16:08] <mcphail> odd
[16:08] <ogra_> (and there is no technical reason why it wouldnt work ... )
[16:08] <ogra_> oh
[16:08] <ogra_> perhaps there is one
[16:09] <ogra_> try: adb kill server; sudo adb devices
[16:09] <ogra_> and see if that changes something
[16:09] <ogra_> might be that the udev rule for this combo isnt added
[16:09] <ogra_> so adb would have no permissions for the normal user on the PC
[16:14] <mcphail> ogra_: I don't have access to my PC just now as I'm out in the wilderness but, in the past, adb access has been lost when rndis is active and I've had to switch back via the terminal app
[16:14] <mcphail> ogra_: i think it is a udev issue as the usb id changes
[16:15] <mcphail> (iirc)
[16:15] <ogra_> adb needs to re-initialize when the kernel changes the USB config ... so it will kick you out ...
[16:15] <ogra_> but you should be able to get back in with the above ... even if the udev rule is wrong
[16:15] <mcphail> ok - i'll try when I'm back in civilisation :)
[16:16] <ogra_> cool, let me know how it goes ... if its just the udev rules we can easily fix it
[16:16] <mcphail> yes - would be good if it works
[16:38] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, o/ On my pc the tst_QmlTests does core dump on each branch, also on trunk. I've that output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10833959/ other tests work. Any idea?
[16:44] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, looks like xvfb doesn’t like your graphics setup, try running the tests with the test command but without xvfb, i.e. in your case that would be /home/rpadovani/Documents/ubuntu/touch/system-apps/webbrowser-app/settings-page/tests/unittests/qml/tst_QmlTests -input /home/rpadovani/Documents/ubuntu/touch/system-apps/webbrowser-app/settings-page/tests/unittests/qml -import /home/rpadovani/Documents/ubuntu/touch/system-apps/
[16:44] <oSoMoN> webbrowser-app/settings-page/src
[16:46] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, I'll try, thanks
[17:04] <BOHverkill> awesome everything necessary for me is working on my bq :D
[17:04] <cwayne> BOHverkill, awesome!
[17:16] <brunch875> YESSSSS
[17:17] <brunch875> oh damn, it's not instant :(
[17:17] <brunch875> I'm going to burn the 'check for updates' button
[17:17] <brunch875> until I get my candy
[17:17] <sil2100> brunch875: sorry about that, no worries - it'll take only a little while ;)
[17:17] <brunch875> hahaha
[17:18] <sil2100> ogra_: actually, I can't change the topic
[17:18] <ogra_> oh ?
[17:18] <ogra_> sil2100, are you registered with nickserv ?
[17:19] <ogra_> perhaps you need to
[17:19] <ogra_> woah
[17:19] <ogra_> popey, since when do i need to be OP in an ubuntu channel to change the topic
[17:19] <k1l> its set +t since some trolls used to change the topic in here
[17:19] <popey> you shouldn't
[17:19] <sil2100> I logged in now but still nothing
[17:19] <popey> if its set right
[17:19] <ogra_> can we revert that again ?
[17:19] <ogra_> cool
[17:20] <ogra_> sil2100, go ahead :)
[17:20] <ogra_> \o/
[17:20] <sil2100> hm, it's a loong topic
[17:20] <ogra_> !ITISOUT !
[17:20] <sil2100> ogra_, k1l, popey: thanks!
[17:20] <popey> 21 iS ota-3?
[17:20] <k1l> and no one will read topics anyway ;p
[17:20] <brunch875> !isitoutyet
[17:20] <popey> I thought it was 22
[17:20] <sil2100> Remember, phased updates ongoing! Not all devices will see it yet
[17:20] <popey> mine did :)
[17:21] <sil2100> popey: it was #22 in rc, it's known as #21 on the stable one ;)
[17:21] <sil2100> popey: lucky!
[17:21] <brunch875> may the random() be with you
[17:22]  * popey installs
[17:22] <brunch875> oh, stdlib... why hart thou forsaken me?
[17:22] <brunch875> popey has rigged it! I'm sure of it!
[17:23] <popey> haha
[17:24] <BOHverkill> the update is a lie ;)
[17:27] <popey> http://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2015-04-16-182659.png
[17:27] <popey> not a lie :)
[17:27] <brunch875> photoshop master, head of conspiracy!
[17:27] <popey> hah
[17:27] <BOHverkill> brunch875: yes ;)
[17:27] <popey> ITYM GIMP
[17:27] <popey> i like that I would have faked that, the timestamps and everything
[17:28] <brunch875> "what do you mean, it's not possible? Aren't you good with computers?"
[17:29] <BOHverkill> ;)
[17:30] <davmor2> brunch875: no he is good with computers Art on the other hand popey completely sucks at
[17:30] <popey> [FACT]
[17:30] <BOHverkill> "Software is up to date" grrrrrrrrrr
[17:53] <brunch875> Is anyone working on a telepathy-based chat for utouch?
[17:53] <brunch875> that would be pretty sweet...
[17:54] <dobey> brunch875: messaging-app is a telepathy-based chat
[17:54] <dobey> it just only supports sms at the moment really
[17:56] <brunch875> Nice!
[17:56] <brunch875> Good design base
[18:57] <brunch875> BOHverkill: I WIN! HAhahahah
[18:57] <brunch875> I got the update
[18:59] <BOHverkill> brunch875: ò_ó
[18:59] <brunch875> damn, we've got to start races!
[19:00] <brunch875> this is amusing
[19:06] <brunch875> telegram notification sounds!
[19:06] <robin-hero> brunch875: Ah, I have no updates... It's not fair :D
[19:07] <brunch875> http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/R_1bb946_2166350.jpg
[19:46] <sil2100> Phasing updates continue ;)
[19:51] <robin-hero> sil2100: Yeah! Can we read somewhere how this phased update work?
[19:52] <robin-hero> by the way still no update for me :(
[19:52] <aquarius> How do I use the media hub from an app? Specifically, if I just create an Audio {} element and .play() it, is that using the media hub (and so the sound will continue to play even if my app is backgrounded or suspended or the screen is turned off)?
[19:53] <EdwardMorbius> robin-hero I didnt get it either, everyone should get it within 24 hours.
[19:53] <aquarius> this may be a jhodapp question, or possibly one for the SDK team
[19:53] <sil2100> robin-hero: hey, sadly there's no full section on just phased updates anywhere, but the priciple is that updates are made available to people in iterations, with each iteration making the update available to a larger random audience
[19:53] <sil2100> The steps are rather big and normally the phased transition time is much bigger, but we didn't want to make people wait too much
[19:54] <sil2100> Besides, we have pretty much confidence in the image not breaking anyone badly
[19:56] <robin-hero> sil2100: Thanks, It's okay, I would like to know the details. How many people involve in a phase, how many hours delayed between two phases and things like that :) Does a site or documentation exist about this?
[19:56] <sil2100> robin-hero: it's percentage based, currently we're doing 6%-per-step with a step duration of 1 hour
[19:57] <robin-hero> thanks :)
[19:57] <sil2100> Right now we're at 18% so still some percentages to go ;)
[19:58] <robin-hero> when did it start? :)
[19:58] <EdwardMorbius> sil2100 when can 15.04 image be expected? few weeks, a month? I guess depending on how many bugs need squashing
[20:00] <sil2100> robin-hero: hm, over 3 hours ago I suppose, the next step should be soon
[20:00] <jhodapp> aquarius, yes, it's using media-hub by default
[20:00] <sil2100> EdwardMorbius: our QA team will be re-doing the quality assessment soon, around tomorrow/Monday, so next week we should know more
[20:00] <sil2100> It all really depends on how many things from the list are remaining
[20:00] <aquarius> jhodapp, OK. Next question: can I use the media hub from an HTML5 app?
[20:01] <sil2100> We'll only know it proper after we have test results, but I think it won't be as long as a month
[20:01] <jhodapp> aquarius, not yet, that's coming
[20:01] <EdwardMorbius> sil2100 thanks. I look forward to those sound notifications in telegram :)
[20:01] <sil2100> We plan on doing monthly OTA's and so far the OTA-4 is planned to be 15.04 based ;)
[20:01] <aquarius> jhodapp, ah, OK. I've tried giving Audio{} a data URI, and that didn't work; is it supposed to work? It'd be really nice if it were :)
[20:01] <jhodapp> aquarius, experimental support is in Oxide already...there is a flag that you can turn on to utilize it for audio, but you'll want to talk to the Oxide guys for how to use it
[20:02] <jhodapp> aquarius, a data URI?
[20:02] <EdwardMorbius> sil2100 thats one of the big advantages over other mobile OSes for me, regular updates, not waiting for months for the manufacturer to release new version of firmware (if at all)
[20:03] <aquarius> jhodapp, yeah. Instead of a normal URL which is an address of something (http://server/somefile.mp3 or file:///home/phablet/Music/somesong.mp3), a data URI is the data itself: it looks like data:audio/mp3;base64,gbBUGIUGyBIgIugIugIUgIGi(on and on for the length of the file)NUIBhoiOIOIhONHoiH
[20:03] <aquarius> jhodapp, so it's basically the file serialised as one big long string
[20:03] <aquarius> jhodapp, this is very useful for dynamically generated stuff, because I can't save data to a file from QML *or* HTML5
[20:04] <jhodapp> aquarius, I've not experimented with that at all...if GStreamer supports it then we will as well because media-hub uses GStreamer
[20:04] <jhodapp> aquarius, we may also be missing a plugin
[20:05] <jhodapp> aquarius, it might also be that the data URI is getting scrubbed by QtMultimedia (including our own plugin) in between your app and media-hub
[20:05] <sil2100> EdwardMorbius: glad to hear you like that, we're working for that purpose all the time trying our best to make it for our deadlines
[20:07] <jhodapp> aquarius, I have to run for now, but hit me up some more later or drop me a message on Google+
[20:07] <aquarius> jhodapp, yeah, hence me asking :) What I was considering was an app which can read an ebook with speech synthesis. I could shell out to festival (ugh!) or there's a pure JS implementation of espeak, which works fine in Oxide (although not in QML's annoyingly noddy JS environment). But what that gives me is a data stream, which I can't then pass to Audio{}.
[20:07] <aquarius> jhodapp, no worries. Sounds like the platform isn't ready for me to do this yet anyway :)
[20:08] <BOHverkill> still no update :(
[20:08] <aquarius> BOHverkill, it's coming out over the next day, apparently
[20:08] <aquarius> it will arrive at some point :)
[20:09] <BOHverkill> day?!? O.o
[20:09] <aquarius> sil2100, you may know this: how often does a new "group" of people get admitted to the update? If, say, once an hour a cron job runs which opens up the update to the next group, then there's no point in me checking for updates more than once an hour :)
[20:10] <aquarius> sil2100, oh! sorry, I've just seen that you answered that question a moment ago to robin-hero
[20:10] <BOHverkill> i want it now!!! ;)
[20:10] <EdwardMorbius> aquarius probably not if its hourly based, I still check more often than that :D
[20:10] <sil2100> aquarius: once an hour makes sense since the tick time is one hour ;)
[20:10] <aquarius> BOHverkill, <sil2100> robin-hero: it's percentage based, currently we're doing 6%-per-step with a step duration of 1 hour
[20:10] <aquarius> so every hour another six per cent of people get admitted to the update. So I shall check hourly.
[20:11] <BOHverkill> random devices?
[20:11] <aquarius> and invest in some cream cakes for the release team so I end up in the first group ;-) Although I assume it's completely random or based on something I have no control over :)
[20:11] <BOHverkill> k thx
[20:12] <sil2100> hah, yeah, we don't have control over it ;) But cream cakes are always welcome!
[20:15] <BOHverkill> what does "once an hour" mean? on every full hour?
[20:16] <dobey> for a cron job, i'd expect so, yes
[20:17] <dobey> aquarius: maybe if you spend 30 years at a temple on a mountain in china, you'll learn how to control it :P
[20:28] <kenvandine> mandel, don't forget to rebase those branches
[20:34] <Robin_> hi there can anybody tell me where I can find the change log od Rev 21 that was just relaesed?
[20:34] <Robin_> changelog of rev21
[20:35] <robin-hero> Robin_: Commit log: http://people.canonical.com/~lzemczak/landing-team/ota/ota-3.commitlog and list of fixed bugs: https://launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+milestone/ww13-ota
[20:43] <nik90> zyga: Hey, the component-store docs have been updated with the community channel that aquarius mentioned before. So anybody can upload components to it. Give it a try when you find time and let us know if it works with the pyotherside stuff.
[20:50] <sil2100> Robin_: next release should have a better changelog, we had some slight issues with the infrastructure but it's now good - best if you check the milestone list from LP, it shows which bugs were closed with this release
[20:51] <Robin_> a changelog right inside of the Update screen in Ubuntu Phone would be awesome.
[20:52] <Robin_> click the update and get the information of the changelog
[20:55] <Darek> Darek
[20:56] <Guest64966> Hello. Nouveau sur ce channel et sur ubuntu phone
[20:57] <brunch875> Bienvenue, guest. Nous parlons l'anglais :o
[20:58] <Guest64966> Desolé my english is basic
[20:58] <brunch875> Don't worry! We speak simple :)
[21:00] <Guest64966> I don,t acceded a free wifi avec my ubuntu phone! Have you one solution?
[21:01] <brunch875> Yes! Is it a normal wifi?
[21:03] <Guest64966> Yes it's a normal wifi to my FAI. It's free per anyone
[21:03] <brunch875> What is your phone?
[21:03] <brunch875> BQ? Nexus?
[21:04] <Guest64966> I capte it but thereis not run
[21:05] <Guest64966> My phone is a Aquaris 4.5 Ubuntu Èdition
[21:05] <brunch875> Oh... it should work with no problem
[21:05] <brunch875> do you have a laptop?
[21:06] <brunch875> can you check the type of wifi connection on your laptop?
[21:06] <Guest64966> I capte my wifi private et it'i running but not free wufi which is free for anyone
[21:06] <brunch875> WPA? WEP? TTLS?
[21:07] <Guest64966> Free wifi is free
[21:07] <brunch875> Did you try to open the internet browser when connecting?
[21:07] <dobey> there is a bug where it may take a long time to switch between 3g and wifi. you may be experiencing this. i think the latest update may make it a little bit better
[21:08] <Guest64966> No wpa, wep etc...
[21:08] <dobey> there is a system update released today which you should be able to see in updates soon if you haven't already (though i don't know if wifi is required for it)
[21:08] <brunch875> dobey: He's having issues connecting to one of those open connections. I suspect it's one of those which redirect you to accept terms. I haven't tested such a connection yet.
[21:10] <dobey> brunch875: maybe. but i have problems connecting to my own wifi that is 2 feet from my phone, sometimes. it connects, but then will have no internet access for 5 minutes or so.
[21:10] <dobey> i don't have the bq phone though
[21:10] <brunch875> I've had absolutely no issues with wifi other than TTLS being unsupported
[21:10] <dobey> eep, no wonder my phone is hot and the battery is draining so quickly
[21:11] <brunch875> Guest64966: Try connect to wifi -> open internet browser -> www.google.com
[21:11] <brunch875> maybe something shows up
[21:11] <dobey> my dialer-app is taking up 100% cpu for hours
[21:12] <Guest64966> When i go for open one file on internet, i give my id for free wifi and it's connected.
[21:12] <dobey> so sounds like it is working then :)
[21:13]  * brunch875 cheers
[21:16] <zyga> nik90: hey
[21:17] <zyga> nik90: thanks a lot, I'll do that as soon as I can :)
[21:17] <zyga> nik90: woot! :)
[21:23] <brunch875> I'm going to condecorate myself with ubuntu support har har
[21:30] <Robin_> German News for your Ubuntu Phone and Ubuntu Desktop - www.UbuntuFun.de
[21:31] <brunch875> nice
[21:31] <brunch875> I've always wanted to learn german
[21:31] <brunch875> I can read german just barely good enough to understand most of it
[21:31] <Robin_> eine Zusammenfassung der Ubuntu Phone Änderungen in Rev. 21 auf www.UbuntuFun.de
[21:32] <OerHeks> I love the german ubuntu wiki :-)
[21:33] <BOHverkill> OerHeks: me too ;)
[22:05] <elopio> artmello: https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/gallery-app/clean_delete_autopilot_tests/+merge/256592
[22:07] <artmello> elopio: great, thx
[22:08] <artmello> elopio: I will keep this line for the other AP tests and we can review later
[22:09] <elopio> artmello: sure. Please keep me in the loop about how the qml tests are going so we can remove the big autopilot tests.
[22:12] <artmello> elopio: will do
[23:03] <sil2100> o/
[23:58] <cwayne> mariogrip, yo, im also getting that /cache/recovery too small error when trying to flash from your s-i server