[05:31] <knightwise> morning peeps
[05:35] <mappps> morning Knightmare
[05:35] <mappps> knightwise :)
[05:35] <mappps> zmoylan-pi diddledan daftykins lurking?;)
[05:46] <knightwise> hey mappps , how are you doing todya
[05:48] <mappps> not bad..just finished work *7am local time ..gonna watch the americans
[05:48] <mappps> you watch it? brilliant show imo:)
[07:04] <MooDoo> morning all
[07:13] <knightwise> hey MooDoo
[07:18] <MooDoo> how are you knightwise?
[07:22] <knightwise> doin ok :) Crapload of work for the client but .. whats new
[07:28] <MooDoo> yeah i here ya buddy
[07:28] <knightwise> mostly useless paperwork stuff
[08:17] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:17] <bashrc_> morning
[08:18] <MooDoo> mornig
[08:20] <brobostigon> morning
[08:30] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:31] <MooDoo> morning davmor2
[08:36] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy High Five Day! :-D
[08:36] <bigcalm> JamesTait: ^
[08:36] <bigcalm> Sorry, that was a high 6
[08:37]  * davmor2 holds his hand in the air and waits for JamesTait to get the step ladder out to slap it
[08:38] <JamesTait> Oi! I'm not that short!
[08:38] <davmor2> JamesTait: okay box
[08:39] <JamesTait> Anyway, davmor2, you want to be careful lifting your arms that high, what with your bad back. ;)
[08:40] <davmor2> JamesTait: no it's safe I tried it out first :D
[08:43] <JamesTait> bigcalm, (ｏ・_・)ノヽ(・_・ｏ)
[08:43] <bigcalm> :D
[08:45] <JamesTait> I wonder why my gnome-terminal with irssi is showing up as Files in the switcher. :-/
[08:47] <davmor2> JamesTait: cause you broke it
[08:48] <JamesTait> davmor2, you mean I'm doing your job for you now? :-P
[08:48] <diplo> rah! Got Nagios sending alerts via telegram... win!
[08:49] <davmor2> JamesTait: welcome to my wonderful world of what breaks next
[09:01] <foobarry> diplo: is there a documented process?
[09:08] <diplo> Nope, but I can write one :)
[09:08] <diplo> It's only taken me a few weeks :D
[09:09] <diplo> Do you use Telegram foobarry ?
[09:10] <foobarry> no, but i would bookmark the documentation for consideration of using it :D
[09:12] <diplo> heh, well I'll refine for now then as it's not perfect yet... but is working :)
[09:13] <foobarry> telegram is like whatsapp,yep?
[09:13] <diplo> yeah but opensource
[09:14] <diplo> Much prefer it! Most of my mates have moved to it now
[09:14] <popey> \o/ Telegram
[09:14] <diplo> + desktop app! and telegram-cli !!!
[09:15] <foobarry> i've never had any success with fringe apps
[09:16] <foobarry> because mates don't use them
[09:16] <knightwise> i have it on the phone ...
[09:16] <foobarry> but i could use this for work chat
[09:17] <foobarry> and also nagios integration would be good
[09:17] <diplo> It's not fringe anymore, taking away a lot of Whatsapp users
[09:17] <foobarry> is the API easy?
[09:17] <diplo> They've had millions of people signing up
[09:17] <popey> I'm in a telegram group with 114 people in it
[09:17] <diplo> Umm easy, no...
[09:17] <foobarry> i have a bot that i'd like to talk telegram
[09:17] <diplo> yeah we have some large groups
[09:17] <diplo> foobarry: Code out there for that already, check on github
[09:17] <diplo> Just started playing with telepy
[09:18] <diplo> Not fully implemented yet though
[09:18] <TwistedLucidity> Morning.
[09:18] <TwistedLucidity> I appear to have spinning rust from the furture! dd is telling me the transfer speed is 2.1GB/s :-S
[09:18] <TwistedLucidity> I don't think I am testing what I think I am testing.....
[09:20] <davmor2> \o/ telegram \o/
[09:21] <knightwise> ok , just need to get it working on the raspberry pi
[09:23] <diplo> I run on my laptop, cli works suprisingly well on the server too
[09:23] <knightwise> i seem to have in installed
[09:23] <knightwise> ive started the telegram-daemon
[09:23] <knightwise> but .. now what ?
[09:23] <davmor2> diplo: the app on the phone is actually nicer than the one on android :)
[09:24] <TwistedLucidity> Quick Pi question - is a 2MB/s WiFi transfer speed typical?
[09:25] <foobarry> 16Mbit/s?
[09:25] <diplo> knightwise: ./telegram-cli is what I run
[09:25] <diplo> msg <username> message here
[09:25] <TwistedLucidity> foobarry: Aye
[09:25] <diplo> Or msg user#idhere
[09:25] <knightwise> diplo: hmm.. no such file
[09:25] <diplo> On UT ? davmor2
[09:26] <davmor2> diplo: yeap
[09:26] <diplo> CLI on the PI knightwise ?
[09:26] <diplo> https://telegram.org/dl/cli
[09:26] <diplo> yeah, going to try UT soon
[09:27] <diplo> https://github.com/vysheng/tg <-- What I use knightwise , configure and make once you have deps installed
[09:27] <knightwise> do i do the git clone in the /etc directory ?
[09:27] <TwistedLucidity> Using a 150Mbit/s dongle, lappy has a 270Mbit/s wireless; so neither of those are an issue. Both on N. Bit puzzled as to why it is so s-l-o-w...
[09:27] <diplo> I didn't no, I ran it from the user that was running it for me
[09:28] <knightwise> ok , but that user doesnt have sudo rights on my system
[09:28] <diplo> I actually grabbed the zip at the time as I couldn't install git on the machine I was running it on
[09:28] <knightwise> is that a problem ?
[09:28] <diplo> Wasn't for me as long as deps were previously installed
[09:29] <TwistedLucidity> diplo: Telegram looks like all shades of awesome
[09:30] <TwistedLucidity> The image for "Open". Much lol
[09:30] <diplo> And they put improvements in all the time
[09:31]  * TwistedLucidity doubts the URL would be suitable for a 'family friend'y channel
[09:32] <knightwise> diplo: running it now
[09:32] <knightwise> doing the ./configure command
[09:34] <knightwise> and running the make command
[09:35] <knightwise> takes a while on the pi :)
[09:38] <diplo> Took a fair while on my server :)
[09:40] <knightwise>  so who wants to add me ?
[09:42] <popey> I'm popeydc on telegram, feel free to add me
[09:42] <diplo> andy_p for me :)
[09:42] <diplo> That's an underscore if it doesn't show :)
[09:43] <foobarry> seen this? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.handwriting.ime
[09:43] <knightwise> diplo ?  you @diplo ?
[09:44] <diplo> andy_p is mine
[09:45] <diplo> foobarry: Mate is using it currently
[09:46] <knightwise> ok, now i just need to get the wife to use it :)
[09:46] <knightwise> so we can get away from googletalk
[09:47] <diplo> Got my whole family to move to it, mum doesnt have a smart phone but you can still do it. Installed on her N7 with her mobile number as the contact
[09:48] <diplo> Have a family group etc
[09:48] <TwistedLucidity> foobarry: The Palm Pilot is risen!
[09:48] <popey> yeah, we have a family group too
[09:48] <popey> \o/ Palm!
[09:48]  * popey still has a Palm T|X which I boot up now and then
[09:48] <popey> then remember it can't do WPA, so it is useless
[09:48] <TwistedLucidity> diplo: Telegram is on public servers; yeah?
[09:49]  * zmoylan-pi has a palm tungsten e somewhere about
[09:49] <TwistedLucidity> popey: Is some ways the Palm (and a few others) were ahead of the network infrastructure curve.
[09:49] <knightwise> zmoylan-pi: the good old days
[09:49] <diplo> Yeah, well run by telegram yeah
[09:50] <TwistedLucidity> diplo: Thought so. Wonder is if a private instance could be hosted...I could do curious things with that...
[09:50] <diplo> not afaik
[09:50] <knightwise> TwistedLucidity: start your own secret empire ?
[09:52] <TwistedLucidity> knightwise: No. ECMS integration. I did one on StatusNet ages ago. Plan was to, in the end, allow users message the ECMS system to get it to respond.
[09:52] <TwistedLucidity> Kinda lost steam though
[09:53] <knightwise> ecms ?
[09:53] <TwistedLucidity> Enterprise Content Management System. Ma-hooisve object stores of every version, of every document that a business uses.
[09:54] <TwistedLucidity> Version control for suits.
[10:00] <TwistedLucidity> Ouch. http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/apr/15/virginia-hacking-voting-machines-security
[10:12] <foobarry> i need to root my device to use a ps2 controller with android? :(
[10:12] <foobarry> http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/33112/how-to-use-generic-usb-joysticks-in-android-via-otg
[10:31] <directhex_> collecting new car tomorrow afternoon
[10:31] <knightwise> ok , i have telegram setup but .. how do i configure it ?
[10:32] <knightwise> i have don the telegram-cli -k public key thing but ...then what ,
[10:34] <knightwise> ah
[10:37] <diplo> :D
[10:37] <diplo> Get prompted for your number ?
[10:37] <diplo> Should send an alert to your phone with a code
[10:37] <knightwise> diplo , i just sent you a msg
[10:37] <knightwise> got the alert :)
[10:38] <diplo> not had it yet
[10:38] <knightwise> can you send me one ? @knightwise
[10:38] <diplo> Sent
[10:38] <knightwise> got it
[10:38] <knightwise> i must have the synthax wrong
[10:39] <knightwise> isnt it msg @andy_p test ?
[10:43] <diplo> Nope, no @
[10:43] <diplo> afaik, but I've not tried with usernames before
[10:43] <diplo> All the people I contact are in my contacts
[10:44] <diplo> Could try contact_list andy_p
[10:44] <diplo> It'll give you a ID, so you can msg user#numberhere message here
[10:45] <knightwise> ok , so i sent you a couple of messages but it doesnt look like they are getting through. i am seeing notifications that you are going online / offline all the time
[10:46] <diplo> Have you tried the above ?
[11:42] <zmoylan-pi> sounds like marketing speak...
[11:42] <diplo> foobarry: Stuck the files in my git repo ( very new to git! so hope it's ok! )
[11:43] <diplo> Let me know if you want the link, it's the first iteration of the files, defo needs some work
[11:43] <foobarry> yes pls, u can PM it if you like
[11:43] <foobarry> we bought github enterprise for inhouse github server
[11:44] <foobarry> its github but onsite
[11:46] <diplo> Done if you haven't seen, oh nice.. my place won't spend money, I've done this because I had trouble getting it work properly... it's by no means perfect though! Going to improve on it over the weeks
[12:47] <foobarry> its actually a bit annoying to deploy
[12:47] <foobarry> quite non standard
[12:59] <diplo> The cli thing?
[13:53] <knightwise> aha
[13:53] <knightwise> i seem to have telegram running
[13:53] <popey> \o/
[13:54] <zmoylan-pi> send a postcard or something... :-P
[13:54] <knightwise> popey: but how do i add you to my contact list ?
[13:54] <popey> add my phone number or @popeydc on telegram
[13:55] <knightwise> hmm.. i can open a new chat with you on the phone app
[13:55] <knightwise> but that doesnt put you in my contact list apparently
[13:56] <diplo> Only way is to add number to get in contact list afaik, you can just message people via the username
[13:57] <knightwise> aha , so i need popeys number instead of their username ?
[13:57] <popey> my phone number is quite widely known :)
[13:57] <diplo> I believe so yeah, can still message.. just can't save afaik
[13:59] <zmoylan-pi> ask the nsa, gchq, kgb... :-)
[14:01] <knightwise> and my raspberry pi has another command line app to overload its busy cpu :)
[14:02] <zmoylan-pi> this pi will never take it....
[14:02] <popey> I tried Ubuntu MATE on the Pi 2 yesterday
[14:02] <popey> I was surprised how well it runs.
[14:03] <zmoylan-pi> the pi2 is a seriously beefy little cpu.
[14:03] <knightwise> indeed
[14:03] <knightwise> it makes for a great thin client too
[14:03] <knightwise> or a chromebook suppository
[14:03] <zmoylan-pi> soon the smart hat will be a reality :-)
[14:05] <Myrtti> Google Drive \o/
[14:05] <knightwise> For collaboration .. it is a sweet sweet thing
[14:05]  * popey finally paid for irssinotifier
[14:12] <awilkins> Multicore makes a big difference on modern desktop s
[14:12] <davmor2> popey: is that the android thing?
[14:12]  * knightwise has quadcore I7 mbp
[14:12] <knightwise> it fliez
[14:12]  * awilkins is running Ruby on Rails on a Pi2... with acceptable performance!!!!
[14:13] <awilkins> My work-issue laptop is buggering fast
[14:13]  * brobostigon is also an irssinotifier user.
[14:13]  * awilkins pardon me
[14:13] <knightwise> did you guys get a box with your p2 or do you just use a lego case ?
[14:13] <popey> davmor2: yes
[14:13] <awilkins> knightwise, I got the FLIRC case
[14:13] <popey> i have no case. i should make a lego one
[14:13] <popey> actually I could draw one, I have a 3d pen
[14:13] <awilkins> It looks like a proper little Mac Mini or something
[14:14] <knightwise> popey: that would be an elegant case indeed
[14:14] <popey> nah
[14:14] <popey> it would look a mess
[14:14] <awilkins> yeah, "popey, for cases that look like you put a USB port in a mass of wadded up chewing gum"
[14:14] <popey> yes
[14:15] <davmor2> awilkins: are you trying to say all of your cases don't look like that?
[14:16] <knightwise> 49
[14:16] <knightwise> oops
[14:16] <knightwise> wrong window
[14:17] <zmoylan-pi> when we all know the true answer is 42...
[14:17] <davmor2> knightwise: isn't that the sweet and sour?  I'm assuming you were ordering a Chinese ;)
[14:18] <knightwise> mpsyt :)
[14:18] <knightwise> youtube music player
[14:18] <knightwise> track 49
[14:18] <zmoylan-pi> or 99 if you have access to ice cream and a flake...
[14:18] <awilkins> http://thepihut.com/products/flirc-raspberry-pi-b-case  < dead nice
[14:19] <popey> hah, makes it look like a NUC
[14:19] <zmoylan-pi> but a smidge smaller
[14:20] <popey> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFF0n5YqZ78 video review of it
[14:21] <popey> ooh, that is nice
[14:23]  * knightwise is pooped 
[14:23] <knightwise> been in front of the pc non stop for allmost 10 hours
[14:24] <awilkins> The only reason I'd get another case is if I wanted to fit HAT boards or the camera module
[14:24] <knightwise> gonna chill afk a bit. ttyl
[14:24] <awilkins> I may get a camera module for my Pi B 1.0
[14:25] <awilkins> I have an app in mind for it
[14:31] <zmoylan-pi> who's been stealing biccies from the kitchen!! :-)
[14:34] <intrbiz> awilkins: I've got a copy of my monitoring system running on my Odroid U3, PostgreSQL 9.4, RabbitMQ, Nginx, and all my java based services, runs pretty well all things considered
[14:44] <Myrtti> kek http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/pantones-newest-color-is-minion-yellow-design-news-218277
[15:04] <TwistedLucidity> "a color that heightens awareness and creates clarity...the color of hope, joy and optimism"
[15:04] <TwistedLucidity> Please excuse me whilst I hurl
[15:06] <zmoylan-pi> that'll add some colour
[15:06] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: and carrots mysteriously
[15:06] <zmoylan-pi> with hints of jackson pollock
[16:03] <diddledan> shauno: ask and you shall receive: better footage of the barge landing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeIHJ-i7yVk
[16:04] <TwistedLucidity> Wouldn't some decent parachutes be easier & lighter?
[16:04]  * TwistedLucidity is not a rocket engineer outside of Kerbal
[16:04] <diddledan> lol
[16:07] <shauno> diddledan: old.
[16:07] <diddledan> oh?
[16:10] <shauno> I was thinking about parachutes .. but I wonder if that'd leave them floating around on the breeze too much to be able to hit a small target
[16:10] <shauno> perhaps just drogues to help it stay upright
[16:11] <zmoylan-pi> i reckon some sort of ground net raised at last moment to catch and balance
[16:13] <NET||abuse> hi folks, having a btrfs issue here,
[16:14] <diddledan> I say they should put wings on it and a jet turbine :-p
[16:15] <NET||abuse> got a volume on /mnt (i know bad location)   and it's on a disk /dev/xvdb of 456G    but only seems to be using 45G, 36G is used,, btrfs filesystem resize max /mnt    isn't working :(
[16:15] <NET||abuse> not sure why, says file too big
[16:28] <TwistedLucidity> The Kerbal version (as seen on CBS) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzkaVTeguNk
[16:29] <TwistedLucidity> And longer more complete version (different creator) showing more explosions
[16:29] <TwistedLucidity> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9I55o8hQgs
[16:30] <TwistedLucidity> diddledan, shauno: ^
[16:30] <TwistedLucidity> And with that, g'night!
[16:33] <shauno> lol, how did I know it was gonna be scott manley
[16:34] <diddledan> shauno: because "fly safe!"
[16:34] <diddledan> he is pretty awesome tho
[17:06] <vetman3309> hi
[17:16] <davmor2> vetman3309: hi
[17:16] <vetman3309> how is going?
[17:34] <DJones> Sheesh, what a dodgy day, new server delivered, support staff in place to set it up, main software supplier says sorry no, it won't work on  server, it only works on peer to peer networks, what century are we living in
[17:34] <DJones> It'll only work on a win xp/7 machine or windows server 2003
[17:40] <popey> lulz
[17:52]  * DJones kicks popey for laughing at obsolete systems
[17:58] <DJones> I'm just grateful we're killing the system
[17:58] <DJones> in 3 months
[18:28] <shauno> don't you love buying new hardware for systems where the EOL is so close you can taste it
[18:29] <diddledan> craycray!
[18:29] <diddledan> :-p
[18:31] <diddledan> so at my cousin's wedding the other week, as a special request the "you may kiss the bride" bit was inserted to the order of service and just as he goes in for the snog my niece (2) calls out "naughty naughty"
[18:31] <diddledan> best timing evar!
[18:31] <diddledan> if only someone had it on film
[19:06] <Laney> deeeeeeebate time
[19:07] <Myrtti> yeah, watching
[19:07] <shauno> not watching \o/
[19:08] <Laney> is it the same format as the other one?
[19:08] <Laney> seems so
[19:08] <Myrtti> Finnish debate was at 20 their time and I didn't bother to watch since I had already voted
[19:15] <DJones> shauno: No,  this is down to a software developer not being prepared to accept that the internet exists and their refusal to accept that windows 3.0 is no longer supported
[19:28] <directhex_> similar. but dave and nick are in hiding
[19:28] <directhex_> i once had to deal with software whose dev supported amd64 solaris, but not amd64 linux
[19:28] <directhex_> they were "keeping an eye" on that platform's viability
[19:29] <directhex_> this was an HPC app. in 2008.
[19:29] <diddledan> which was "that" platform that they were keeping an eye on?
[19:29] <diddledan> they're analysing the viability of linux?
[19:30] <shauno> amd64 seems like a flash in the pan.  they should play it safe and stick with ia64  *nods*
[19:30] <diddledan> mmhmm
[19:30] <diddledan> ia64 ftw
[19:30] <diddledan> I want one just for the giggles
[19:31] <directhex_> diddledan: amd64 linux. they did i386 linux,]
[19:31] <directhex_> i used to admin an itanium system
[19:31] <diddledan> we'd not have efi without ia64 remember :-p
[19:31] <directhex_> 256 cores, 1T RAM
[19:31] <diddledan> ouch
[19:31] <diddledan> that's a big system
[19:31] <directhex_> badly behaved SLES desktop!
[19:31] <directhex_> 1 rack big
[19:32] <foobarry> my colleague bought one off ebay
[19:32] <directhex_> or was it 2?
[19:32] <foobarry> recently
[19:32] <directhex_> anyway, best parallel system i've ever used
[19:32] <directhex_> *so* fast. yay sgi.
[19:32] <diddledan> aah
[19:32] <diddledan> sgi were good
[19:32] <foobarry> we also recently threw away a whole rack of altix sgi
[19:32] <diddledan> the jurrassic park machines were sgi's
[19:32] <foobarry> so much RAMs
[19:32] <foobarry> nobody was using it
[19:33] <diddledan> foobarry: not altair? :-p
[19:33] <foobarry> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altix
[19:37] <diddledan> looks like the only linux supported on itanium according to wiki is gentoo
[19:41] <diddledan> it just goes to show (itanium) that being first and better doesn't mean you win :-p
[19:49] <directhex_> diddledan: we ran SLES 10, which is what SGI supported on that hardware
[19:49] <directhex_> that or RHEL 5
[20:32] <diddledan> nerdgasm: https://youtu.be/ngElkyQ6Rhs
[20:32] <diddledan> IRC really needs to allow huge letters for such times as you need to convey a huge SQUEEE
[21:31] <dogmatic69_> any idea why my virtual machine is saying no space left on device, but df -h says 4GB free
[21:31] <intrbiz> HTTP parsing, in kernel mode, smart move Windows - https://ma.ttias.be/remote-code-execution-via-http-request-in-iis-on-windows/
[21:32] <intrbiz> dogmatic69_: has the host run out of storage space, if it's a thin provisioned disk?
[21:32] <dogmatic69_> intrbiz: doubt that... /dev/md127p1                 2.7T  889G  1.7T  35% /raid
[21:33] <intrbiz> dogmatic69_: what hypervisor?
[21:33] <intrbiz> dogmatic69_: what disk format?
[21:33] <diddledan> windows y u do dis?
[21:33] <diddledan> unrelated to the http.sys issue above
[21:34] <dogmatic69_> intrbiz: hypervisor? like virtualbox?
[21:34] <diddledan> dogmatic69_: what filesystem?
[21:34] <dogmatic69_> the drive is 'Normal (VDI)'
[21:34] <dogmatic69_> what ever was the default install
[21:35] <intrbiz> dogmatic69_: have you looked at dmesg in the VM ?
[21:35] <diddledan> inode count?
[21:35] <dogmatic69_> going to now, just rebooting again
[21:35] <dogmatic69_> great, now df -h cannot read table of mounted file systems
[21:36] <diddledan> o_O
[21:36] <dogmatic69_> its, working now but still not /root. only the links to host
[21:36] <diddledan> o_O
[21:37] <intrbiz> dogmatic69_: what does /proc/mounts show?
[21:37] <dogmatic69_> here is dmesg
[21:37] <dogmatic69_> http://pastebin.com/jiuhWg4i
[21:38] <dogmatic69_> proc/mounts has loads, want a paste?
[21:39] <intrbiz> may as well
[21:40] <dogmatic69_> http://pastebin.com/LTJBxt5P
[21:42] <dogmatic69_> idk why df -h has no / but I can ls / and see folders
[21:43] <dogmatic69_> I also just removed a file with no issues :/
[21:44] <intrbiz> dogmatic69_: is /etc/mtab empty?
[21:45] <dogmatic69_> nope
[21:45] <dogmatic69_> that as the last 3 entries in mounts
[21:45] <dogmatic69_> the /media/... ones
[21:45] <intrbiz> dogmatic69_: is / listed?
[21:45] <dogmatic69_> no
[21:46] <dogmatic69_> 3 entries like 'pictures /media/sf_pictures vboxsf gid=999,rw 0 0'
[21:46] <intrbiz> dogmatic69_: that'll be why df is broken
[21:46] <dogmatic69_> but 3 different ones
[21:46] <diddledan> root is mounted fine
[21:46] <diddledan> what does df actually say?
[21:46] <dogmatic69_> It has those same 3 entries
[21:46] <dogmatic69_> but no /
[21:47] <diddledan> paste?
[21:47] <intrbiz> dogmatic69_: you can update mtab with: grep -v rootfs /proc/mounts > /etc/mtab
[21:47] <dogmatic69_> http://pastebin.com/jUWAGaPa
[21:48] <dogmatic69_> ok, that made df -h have more, but looks wonky.. paste comming
[21:48] <dogmatic69_> http://pastebin.com/ku5LKWrQ
[21:48] <dogmatic69_> all the none
[21:49] <dogmatic69_> well, I can now write files...
[21:49] <dogmatic69_> thanks diddledan / intrbiz
[21:49] <dogmatic69_> but, why and how to avoid this again...
[21:49] <diddledan> permissions on /etc/mtab wonky?
[21:50] <diddledan> should be root:root 644
[21:50] <intrbiz> dogmatic69_: an incorrect mtab is likely to be the result of not being able to write to / due to the original error
[21:51] <shauno> don't most just symlink mtab to /proc now?
[21:51] <diddledan> you'd think, shauno ,but seems 14.04 doesn't
[21:51] <dogmatic69_> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1156 Apr 16 22:47 /etc/mtab
[21:51] <intrbiz> dogmatic69_: can you also paste df -i
[21:52] <intrbiz> shauno: openSUSE certainly does
[21:52] <dogmatic69_> http://pastebin.com/Mj67NCAL
[21:52] <diddledan> bingoi
[21:52] <diddledan> inodes
[21:52] <dogmatic69_> ok, it I use tab / autocomplete it complains about the same space issue
[21:52] <diddledan> you're out
[21:52] <shauno> debian does too.  and for long enough that I actually know this, so probably for 5+ years
[21:52] <dogmatic69_> oh :S
[21:52] <dogmatic69_> where do I buy more inodes :D
[21:52] <intrbiz> dogmatic69_: being out of inodes will the the cause
[21:55]  * diddledan points to his first comment way up at the top
[21:55] <intrbiz> diddledan: indeed
[21:55] <diddledan> ]specifically: 22:35 <diddledan> inode count? :-p
[21:56] <diddledan> now someone pat me on the back!
[21:56] <diddledan> :-D
[21:59]  * dogmatic69_ pats diddledan on the back
[21:59] <intrbiz> dogmatic69_: do you have lots of small files on this disk?
[22:00] <dogmatic69_> intrbiz: the only thing on the disk is install stuff from apt-get
[22:00] <dogmatic69_> all the real data is shared from host
[22:03] <intrbiz> IIRC you can't increase the inode ratio on ext4
[22:08] <dogmatic69_> found it, there is like 10 kernals with 5k inodes in each
[22:08] <diddledan> o_O
[22:08] <dogmatic69_> apt-get autoremove that crap
[22:08] <diddledan> surely a kernel is just one file?
[22:09] <diddledan> + an initrd
[22:09] <dogmatic69_> http://pastebin.com/3gE8ypHq
[22:09] <diddledan> and should be stored in /boot
[22:09] <dogmatic69_> well maybe not kernal, but related..
[22:09] <diddledan> oh, /lib/modules
[22:09] <diddledan> yeah
[22:09] <diddledan> autoremove that
[22:10] <diddledan> though that's only about 5% of your total allocation
[22:10] <diddledan> 25k(ish) out of1 meelion
[22:11] <dogmatic69_> I think its counting the stuff on mounted drives...
[22:11] <dogmatic69_> is that right?
[22:11] <diddledan> each filesystem has a separate inode count
[22:11] <dogmatic69_> ok
[22:14] <dogmatic69_>  /sys/kernel has 12k
[22:15] <intrbiz> dogmatic69_: /sys is a virtual filesystem
[22:15] <dogmatic69_> oh ok
[22:18] <dogmatic69_> usr/src has 250k
[22:18] <dogmatic69_> and all linux-headers-3.xx.xx again
[22:18] <dogmatic69_> I have autoclean / autoremoved and rebooted
[22:32] <dogmatic69_> down to 71% used now :)
[22:32] <dogmatic69_> thanks again
[22:32] <dogmatic69_> had to apt-get purge linux-headers ... to clear that stuff out, autoremove does not do it
[22:34] <diddledan> you want the headers for at least the version of the kernel you're booting into normallyu
[22:35] <dogmatic69_> ye, it removed all so I reinstalled the current ones
[22:35] <diddledan> fair enuff
[22:35] <dogmatic69_> it seems like doing purge linux-...41 will remove 4* eg, 41, 42, 43.. 49
[22:36] <dogmatic69_> idk if its just me but seems wrong http://pastebin.com/5b3Jk8VZ
[22:37] <dogmatic69_> idk how 'linux-headers-3.13.0-35*' matches the list to be removed there.
[22:38] <diddledan> it's treated as a regex
[22:38] <dogmatic69_> 45* matches 49?
[22:38] <dogmatic69_> I thought 45<anything>
[22:38] <diddledan> so you're asking for 3<Anything>13<anything>0-3<5 any number of times including none>
[22:39] <dogmatic69_> gah. I get ya
[22:40] <diddledan> you probably want to use the command: apt-get purge 'linux-headers-3\.13\.0-35.*'
[22:40] <dogmatic69_> right
[22:40] <diddledan> where \. is a literal dot, and .* is anything
[22:41] <diddledan> you need to put it in single-quotes so that the \. doesn't get expanded by bash before handing to apt
[22:41] <diddledan> bash shell expansion can be a pain
[22:41] <dogmatic69_> ye
[22:41] <dogmatic69_> cheers. well I have some inodes again \o/
[22:42] <diddledan> \o/
[22:42] <diddledan> inodes ftw?
[22:42] <dogmatic69_>  /var has .5M
[22:42] <diddledan> glad you managed to sort it
[22:42] <dogmatic69_>  /var/tmp, can be cleaned out?
[22:43] <dogmatic69_> actually, its ntop...
[22:43] <diddledan> worst case to fix inode outage is to create a new filesystem elsewhere and copy the files across
[22:43] <diddledan> then delete the old filesystem
[22:44] <diddledan> /var/tmp should be ok to clear though sometimes running programs may be using files currently
[22:44] <diddledan> the best option for /var/tmp and /tmp is to clear them on initial boot
[23:42] <ball> If I have a text file with a list of filenames, how can I find the checksum of each file?
[23:42] <ball> I would like to deduplicate some photos.
[23:44] <ball> Oh! I may have just thought of a way...
[23:46] <ball> No. That won't work.
[23:48] <diddledan> ball: for file in "$(cat listoffiles.txt)"; do md5sum "$file" >> md5sums.txt; done
[23:48] <diddledan> try that
[23:48] <ball> diddledan: Thanks, I'll try it.
[23:51] <ball> ./foo2: 3: ./foo2: md5sum: Argument list too long
[23:51] <ball> ^- does it not work if there are spaces in the filename?
[23:52] <ball> perhaps I need to escape out the quote somehow.
[23:52] <ball> (double-quotes)
[23:53] <diddledan> should work with spaces
[23:54] <diddledan> actually, no it won;'t
[23:54] <diddledan> hmm