[00:00] <k1l_> re
[00:02] <aegiryy> is there any FreeBSD room here?
[00:02] <k1l_> !alis | aegiryy
[00:03] <emash> hello everyone
[00:04] <antons_> iperf transfers of 700Mbps on 1gbps normal ?
[00:04] <emash> i really want to install ubuntu on usb in bios mode and make it bootable in uefi. I tried so many times how do i ...
[00:05] <emash> i want it to load like clonezilla-live does, why can't i achieve this
[00:05] <k1l_> darkelfjuggalo: any progress?
[00:06] <darkelfjuggalo> http://pastebin.com/0BxyBMWz
[00:06] <rellis> Hello all. I am tryping to tar 1.7 million files that total 170gb. The tar command is consuming less than 2% cpu on average, no IO wait, no sys, no nothing... and there's no competition on the system. Why does it go so slow?
[00:07] <k1l_> darkelfjuggalo: ok, i would run a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to make sure all packages are now on the true trusty state and not on the old raring one.
[00:07] <k1l_> darkelfjuggalo: but firefox is 37.0.1 now, which is the latest firefox release
[00:07] <pbx> rellis, what's its "NI" (niceness) value in top/htop?
[00:08] <rellis> k1l_: It's at 15
[00:08] <rellis> err sorry, pbx
[00:08] <pbx> gotcha
[00:08] <rellis> pbc: Actually NI is 0... PR is 15
[00:10] <pbx> rellis, try renicing?
[00:10] <pbx> it sounds curious though.
[00:10] <rellis> pbx: I will try that right now
[00:10] <pbx> so little of what i do is cpu-bound i have no experience to apply
[00:11] <rellis> that's fair
[00:13] <pbx> you could turn it all the way to -20 and if there's no change in cpu usage or progress (if you're tracking that) then niceness clearly isn't it...
[00:14] <rellis> pbx: I just set it down to -20 and there's no change.
[00:14] <rellis> pbx: Thanks for trying though.
[00:16] <pbx> rellis, the other thing that occurs to me is that it may indeed be IO bound but the reporting thereof is somehow obscured
[00:16] <pbx> i assume you'd notice if it was swapping for some reason (i assume tar can handle x million filename jobs but you never know)
[00:19] <AssociateX> Hello all.
[00:22] <rellis> pbx: There's no swapping and not a lot of context switching.
[00:25] <choki> Is ubuntu rolling release? Because when I do sudo apt-get upgrade there are always some packages who have an upgrade available.
[00:25] <somsip> choki: no it's not
[00:25] <choki> whats the difference then? ubuntu also has upgraded packages i can install
[00:26] <somsip> choki: once a release is made, the packages dont upgrade over major versions. EG: install 5.0.0 and you'll upgrade to 5.*.* but not 6.*. (it's a facvile example)
[00:26] <somsip> *facile
[00:27] <choki> so ubuntu only gets minor updates?
[00:27] <choki> i dont get really the diff between
[00:27] <choki> I also get software updates with ubuntu
[00:28] <daftykins> choki: major versions don't change, but minor versions (i.e. fixes) do
[00:29] <somsip> choki: 2nd answer on here http://askubuntu.com/questions/265680/ubuntu-rolling-release-model
[00:30] <AssociateX> I have tried to boot a Ubuntu and then Xubuntu install dvd but I get a message: "WARNING: PAE disabled. Use parameter 'forcepae' to enable at you own risk! This kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU: pae". Then it says "Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for you CPU". The CPU is a Intel Pentium M processor (1600 MHz), the laptop is a HP/Compaq nx5000.
[00:30] <choki> thanks a lot!
[00:31] <daftykins> AssociateX: yeah, so have you added forcepae ?
[00:32] <ubuntu795> hi there
[00:32] <daftykins> AssociateX: i warn you though, that old a system isn't going to be too great
[00:33] <AssociateX> daftykins, I don't know how to add forcepae as a boot option.
[00:33] <ubuntu795> the unity menu (the one on the left by default) doesn´t apear when I move the mouse on the left side, do you know how can I fix that?
[00:34] <daftykins> AssociateX: when you boot, press a key at the purple logo so the language select pops up, then highlight 'try' and press 'e' to edit i think it is, or press F6 for advanced options
[00:36] <AssociateX> daftykins, I did try go through the f1-0 keys but did not get the pop up. Let me try again. Which key do suggest that I press? Thank you for the help, btw.
[00:37] <daftykins> AssociateX: this should cover it, let me know if it's not enough - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE
[00:38] <AssociateX> Ha! I pushed the 'a' key and got the pop up. Thanks man!!!
[00:38] <Finetundra> hello folks, I need to find a DNS benchmarker. Whats a good one?
[00:39] <daftykins> Finetundra: not sure what you mean.
[00:40] <Finetundra> daftykins, I need some tool to test a few DNS servers. Currentky I'm having issues
[00:41] <daftykins> test in what way?
[00:41] <daftykins> this genuinely doesn't make sense to me :)
[00:42] <Finetundra> daftykins, test which is fastest for my location. As I said I'm having trouble with my current one
[00:43] <daftykins> yeah but you miss out key details 1) which and 2) what's happening :)
[00:47] <cluelessperson> Hey guys, I'm trying to do something similar to pastebin.  cluelessperson.com/slice/   and I made a script in ubuntu called "sliceit"
[00:47] <cluelessperson> problem is that command | sliceit  seems to be a bit slow.
[00:47] <cluelessperson> I'm wondering if sys.stdin.read is just slow, or what?
[00:48] <cluelessperson> or maybe it's just as slow as it would take to print out the info?
[00:48] <ultrapepe> hey i have a question about deleted ppa's.  how do i rectify apt keys for installed packages from a deleted ppa?
[00:49] <Finetundra> daftykins, what do you mean by which. As for whats happening, all my computers are having massively long or even infinate load times for web pages reached through domain names. In the times that they do load it's almost always plain text on the pages
[00:49] <OerHeks> ultrapepe, rectify ? delete or retrieve?
[00:50] <ultrapepe> OerHeks: either, apt is erroring out and i can't find the signing key for that ppa.
[00:50] <daftykins> Finetundra: well, what IPs are you using? ISP DNS or google/opendns?
[00:50] <OerHeks> ultrapepe, what ppa?
[00:50] <ultrapepe> jon-severinsson ffmpeg
[00:50] <OerHeks> and for what ubuntu version? we need more detail
[00:51] <ultrapepe> OerHeks: jon-severinsson ffmpeg precise
[00:51] <OerHeks> ultrapepe, read the ppa https://launchpad.net/~jon-severinsson/+archive/ubuntu/staging-deletedppa
[00:52] <ultrapepe> OerHeks: the information on that page is private.
[00:52] <OerHeks> deleted, gone.
[00:53] <OerHeks> !ppapurge
[00:53] <Finetundra> dafytkins, I'm going to assume that you mean the DNS servers. In which case, AT&T's default(blasted uverse service) and Google's(piped through a secondary because att's doesn't reach everywhere I need it)
[00:54] <ultrapepe> i need to keep the ffmpeg packages that are installed, i don't want to revert to ubuntu's.  i want to keep the packages and fix the gpg key problem
[00:54] <cluelessperson> Here it is.  I built this sort of pastebin alternative, and I'm working on some python in ubuntu.  Problem is that it seems to be a little slow.  It takes several seconds, verssus the website submitting in like 0.2 seconds.   http://cluelessperson.com/slice/1dcbd0/1
[00:55] <OerHeks> ultrapepe, open softwarecenter > edit > sources, and see the tab authentication, you have the keys, if you added it the correct way. but that ppa is dead
[00:55] <PHPLearner> anyone here uses Phalcon PHP
[00:56] <PHPLearner> need some hlep
[00:56] <PHPLearner> help with regards my NetBeans IDE
[00:56] <PHPLearner> I want my NetBeans IDE to be able to delete the cache files that volt creates every time I request a page to my browser
[00:56] <PHPLearner> anyone please help
[00:57] <PHPLearner> I have been struggling with my coding these past three days already
[00:57] <daftykins> PHPLearner: well you're kinda asking in the wrong places, try a netbeans channel? so presumable java folk?
[00:58] <PHPLearner> ok
[00:58] <daftykins> *presumably
[00:58] <ultrapepe> OerHeks: i don't have the keys.  the packages are part of my server installation; the ffmpeg binaries are dependencies.  so i need to either import the signing key or ask apt not to check those ffmpeg packages.
[00:59] <jadson> como funciona
[00:59] <OerHeks> ultrapepe, remove the entries in sources.list.d
[01:00] <OerHeks>  /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[01:03] <ultrapepe> OerHeks: gah.  fml.   thanks for the help.  spot on.
[01:13] <drose379> Guys what is a normal discharge rate
[01:14] <daftykins> i'm going to guess you mean for a laptop battery... and no idea.
[01:15] <drose379> Yes daftykins
[01:15] <drose379> Im trying to optimize my battery
[01:15] <drose379> Anything essential I should do off the bat?
[01:15] <gzcwnk> it will depend on a lot of things
[01:15] <Kb52> Is it appropriate to discuss USB Bluetooth adapter here?
[01:16] <daftykins> It's appropriate to discuss Ubuntu support queries, so if that applies...
[01:17] <Kb52> Well here goes. Got a Bluetooth USB dongle hooked to my Desktop. It shows it in the taskbar. Here is the line from lsusb Bus 003 Device 002: ID 1131:1004 Integrated System Solution Corp. Bluetooth Device
[01:19] <Kb52> All appears to work, but nothing sees it nor does it see anything. I am probably going to go boot into WindoZe just to see what happens there, and then come back to here. Just wondering if there is any hope. Right now the only device I have tried was my cell phone.
[01:20] <daftykins> just make sure you're not using a USB 3.0 port i guess
[01:21] <Kb52> No it only has USB 2 ports.
[01:22] <Kb52> Its possible it is defective, or the driver will have to be installed, or it is hopeless. The other one didnt work at all however.
[01:23] <kro2488> So just a quick question I have wondered about, where is the ufw firewall log stored?
[01:23] <kro2488> like the listening report?
[01:26] <OerHeks> kro2488, To enable logging use: sudo ufw logging on. /var/log/ufw.log
[01:27] <kro2488> yeah i know how to turn it on etc just wondere where it was
[01:27] <kro2488> so its in /var/log/ufw.log
[01:27] <kro2488> gotcha
[01:27] <kro2488> how detailed is it?
[01:28] <psyrus> aeln  i pmed you
[01:29] <iawiabowwaa> Hi there all, just wondering how to do the .desktop thing for mplayer in ubuntu 15.04. I did what I used to do but no icon showing up in the open with tab
[01:31] <OerHeks> great, kernel.ubuntu.com is back online
[01:32] <kostkon> iawiabowwaa, forgot to define the mimetypes that are supported?
[01:32] <mekhami> How do I go about getting the best possible driver for my nvidia GTX card
[01:32] <mekhami> i think it's a 490
[01:33] <iambar> Oops I think I was doing it in the wrong directory
[01:33] <daftykins> mekhami: install nvidia-331 - done
[01:33] <daftykins> mekhami: it'll be offered through 'additional drivers'
[01:33] <mekhami> i can do this through apt-get?
[01:34] <daftykins> yes
[01:36] <mekhami> daftykins, do i have to do anything after apt-get install?
[01:36] <daftykins> reboot...
[01:36] <mekhami> sure.
[01:36] <mekhami> Thanks :)
[01:40] <cinnamonbun> Hello, I installed Ubuntu 14.04 and have proceeded to upgrade the kernel to 4.0. I have pentium G3240 which has Intel HD graphics. Do I need to install anything extra in the form of drivers to optimise my system or will whatever is preinstalled work fine?
[01:40] <daftykins> cinnamonbun: running a non-standard kernel is not supported.
[01:41] <daftykins> thus what you are now running isn't ubuntu anymore :)
[01:41] <aeon-ltd> cinnamonbun: if you've got the intel drivers, i don't think there are any other drivers available besides testing/beta maybe
[01:41] <kostkon> cinnamonbun, intel drivers are in the kernel
[01:41] <cinnamonbun> kostex: I see. Perfect. Thanks. I haven't installed any drivers for it from a website and nothing comes up in the driver manager too
[01:42] <kostkon> cinnamonbun, yes, that's normal
[01:42] <daftykins> you don't install drivers like Windows :)
[01:42] <daftykins> you also don't unecessarily run newer kernels...
[01:42] <cinnamonbun> lovely, daftykins it's the greatest thing ever. I imagine Id need to do some tinkering if I were a gamer but thankfully I am not. Just wanted to know if it was all optimised
[01:43] <cinnamonbun> also, I know it's a no no but I've always upgraded to the latest kernels with no issues so far for 1+ year. I don't recommend it to anyone of course but it's fun
[01:43] <daftykins> cinnamonbun: right but doing so, you can't ask for support here because you're not running a known setup anymore.
[01:44] <cinnamonbun> daftykins: I understand. Does 14.10 have the same kernel as 14.04?
[01:44] <daftykins> no
[01:44] <daftykins> 3.13 = 14.04, 3.16 14.10
[01:45] <cinnamonbun> Anyway, thanks for the quick answer. The OS is zooming by. I am at work but I just want to go home and tinker with it.
[01:45] <kostkon> !info linux-generic utopic
[01:47] <cinnamonbun> While I am here. Pretend I am on a supported kernel for now. I've installed 14.04 under UEFI/GPT partition table (only Ubuntu, no other OS). Do I need to change something in the grub settings so it boots faster? Right now I have the motherboard uefi logo, a blank screen for  3 seconds (i assume grub) and then the ubuntu logo
[01:47] <daftykins> no, we don't pretend you're eligible for support :)
[01:50] <mekhami> i just noticed something very odd
[01:50] <mekhami> so i'm playing street fighter iv via wine/steam
[01:50] <mekhami> i'm playing with a joystick if that matters
[01:50] <daftykins> can you explain on one line?
[01:50] <mekhami> and i'm playing for a bit and the screen starts going grey and my computer starts going to sleep like i've been idle this whole time
[01:50] <mekhami> no, because that's stupid and nobody wants to read walls of text.
[01:50] <daftykins> you've already made one.
[01:51] <mekhami> there's separation in this. it's called chat. it's been around for decades.
[01:51] <daftykins> are you aware how bad form it is to argue when you're the one that wants help? :)
[01:51] <mekhami> are you aware how little fucks i give about your incomprehensible attitude towards newlines?
[01:51] <mekhami> you don't wanna help because i pressed enter? great, piss off
[01:51] <daftykins> calm down there little buddy, we have language rules :)
[01:52] <daftykins> !language | mekhami
[01:52] <mekhami> there should be rules against being an arrogant prick
[01:52] <daftykins> i politely asked you press enter less, there's no need for getting upset now
[01:53] <mekhami> this is the only chan i've ever been in with such an inane guideline
[01:53] <mekhami> i got a message from your bot earlier saying i was flooding and should press enter less. seriously, what is the matter with you people.
[01:53] <daftykins> fight the rules - you're gonna have a bad time
[01:54] <mekhami> the problem is
[01:55] <mekhami> you think anybody gives a damn about rules on your irc chan. they don't. it's so incredibly insignificant. they only exist to stroke some nerd's ego
[01:55] <Ben64> mekhami: there are 1732 people currently in this room, rules are a necessity. if you don't like them you don't have to be here
[01:55] <daftykins> mekhami: it's not my channel, i'm a volunteer :) now look at it this way, you look like an angry teenager urinating against the tide trying to argue this :)
[01:55] <mekhami> yeah, reasonable, intelligent rules are a necessity.
[01:56] <daftykins> and everyone else copes with them just fine :D
[01:56] <mekhami> moronic rules like 'don't press enter a lot' serve only to make you look as archaic as the rest of the world sees you.
[01:57] <daftykins> you see, a mature person would've just done it
[01:57] <mekhami> no, a sheep would've just done it.
[01:58] <mekhami> there's no maturity in blindly following guidelines in whatever setting you may appear to be in.
[01:58] <daftykins> i wonder just who it is you think you're rebelling against 0o
[01:58] <mekhami> I don't feel like I'm rebelling against anyone.
[01:58] <mekhami> I'm pointing out stupidity where I see it.
[01:58] <mekhami> I consider that a moral obligation
[01:58] <daftykins> as am i :)
[01:58] <Ben64> mekhami: please point it out in #ubuntu-ops then
[01:59] <daftykins> shame on you for not being polite especially after already receiving answers.
[01:59] <mekhami> oh no, i've been shamed upon.
[01:59] <mekhami> why don't you adjust your expectations?
[02:00] <daftykins> because those that deserve help should abide by rules :)
[02:00] <daftykins> now i shall entertain no more, as you are clearly akin to a troll
[02:00] <Ben64> mekhami: please stick to support in this channel. if you want to discuss the rules, do so in #ubuntu-ops ... if you want to chat about non-support related things, please do so in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:00] <mekhami> Ah, the old "you're a troll for disagreeing with me about something" defense.
[02:00] <mekhami> Classic.
[02:00] <daftykins> no, for fighting rules
[02:00] <mekhami> Even better.
[02:01] <mekhami> Are you going to shake a stick and tell me to get off your lawn now?
[02:01] <Ben64> mekhami: daftykins: both of you stop filling this channel with nonsense please, you know where to go
[02:10] <unitypunk> hey everyone..
[02:11] <unitypunk> what would cause the pc's "load" to get to 1, or over?
[02:11] <unitypunk> its my understanding you want your load as low as possible.
[02:11] <daftykins> processes being delayed by IO, that sort of thing
[02:11] <daftykins> lots of programs at once taxing it
[02:12] <unitypunk> daftykins: how can i figure out whats causing such high loads?
[02:12] <daftykins> all a 1 on the load average means is that in the last x minutes, 1 process was waiting for resources
[02:12] <daftykins> well that's not even vaguely high for one
[02:12] <unitypunk> no?
[02:12] <daftykins> newp
[02:12] <unitypunk> seems high when other pcs i see are ar .03 .06 .01
[02:13] <unitypunk> pc is abnormaly slow, but it is also old, thought maybe a high load was important
[02:13] <daftykins> are you using any swap? "free -m"
[02:13] <trinityx> Hello
[02:13] <trinityx> there is a lote of users here
[02:13] <trinityx> lot*
[02:14] <daftykins> yes, do you have a support question?
[02:14] <Ben64> unitypunk: i have a load of 3.16 right now, its not really a thing to focus on
[02:14] <pol> first timer here
[02:14] <unitypunk> daftykins: 93 of my 1gb free, 2400 of my 2800 swap free.
[02:14] <daftykins> 1GB RAM? ouch.
[02:14] <daftykins> unless that's a VPS
[02:15] <unitypunk> Ben64:  i think memory might be more important haha
[02:15] <trinityx> no, I was just checking out the freenode help page and it said ubuntu had a room. I thought that was cool
[02:15] <unitypunk> 1gb isnt that bad is
[02:15] <unitypunk> :D
[02:15] <Ben64> unitypunk: its pretty bad
[02:15] <pol> just wondering if i joined the right chanel
[02:15] <unitypunk> i guess things come standard with 4-8 now a days huh
[02:15] <daftykins> trinityx: ah. support queries in here, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:15] <trinityx> okay, thanks
[02:15] <daftykins> i wouldn't build anything with less than 16GB now, yeah
[02:15] <unitypunk> LOL
[02:16] <unitypunk> well working with what i got, how can i increase useability
[02:16] <unitypunk> change dm?
[02:16] <daftykins> use xubuntu or ubuntu MATE if you're using unity.
[02:16] <Ben64> use something like xfce or lxde
[02:16] <unitypunk> k
[02:16] <daftykins> but i wouldn't make me worst enemy run a system with 1GB RAM in 2015
[02:16] <daftykins> *my
[02:18] <unitypunk> daftykins:  i bought a raspberrypi t replace it i guess.
[02:18] <psyrus> what happened to aeln?!!??
[02:18] <psyrus> ugh
[02:19] <daftykins> to what?
[02:19] <unitypunk> the 1gb monster.
[02:19] <unitypunk> it was my daily.
[02:19] <daftykins> i was talking to psyrus
[02:19] <unitypunk> :(
[02:19] <daftykins> hence the grammar mismatch
[02:28] <Osmodivs> Hello. I was trying to load some modules from sensors detect when the program suggested me to ""service kmod start"" but The Terminal gives me this error message: start: Unknown job: kmod
[02:29] <Osmodivs> How do I make sensors detect work and load the modules?
[02:29] <kostkon> Osmodivs, sudo service kmod start?
[02:30] <Osmodivs> kostkon, Yes.
[02:30] <Osmodivs> kostkon, Monitoring programs won't work until the needed modules are
[02:30] <Osmodivs> loaded. You may want to run 'service kmod start'
[02:30] <Osmodivs> to load them.
[02:32] <kostkon> !info kmod
[02:33] <Osmodivs> I am using 14,04.02 64Bits
[02:33] <kostkon> Osmodivs, probably install the package or alternatively use modprobe?
[02:34] <Osmodivs> kostkon, I have kmod installed and I just installed nVIDIA MODPROBE
[02:34] <kostkon> Osmodivs, no idea about that
[02:35] <kostkon> !modules
[02:35] <Ben64> Osmodivs: nvidia modprobe?  are you running ubuntu?
[02:35] <Osmodivs> Ben64, Yeah
[02:35] <rideh> anyone here have experience with ubuntu as a guest in virtualbox on a windows host ? I've shared my user folder and mounted it as my home folder and set uid/gid.  mount -t vboxsf myname /home/myname -o uid=myname -o gid=myname
[02:35] <Ben64> Osmodivs: yeah what
[02:35] <Osmodivs> Guess what, I just SUDO and worked XD kmod stop/waiting
[02:35] <rideh> i also copied the contents of the home folder so it has the pre-generated bash files etc there. loggingin  just sends me back to login screen
[02:35] <Osmodivs> I hope that means it is working
[02:36] <Ben64> Osmodivs: thats the first thing kostkon said to do, and you said yes...
[02:36] <Osmodivs> Ben64, Oops, I should have read better
[02:36] <Osmodivs> sorry
[02:37] <Osmodivs> I, ll reboot
[02:37] <Osmodivs> bye.
[02:37] <Osmodivs> thx.
[02:43] <rideh> I've done this with other versions of windows/ubuntu without any trouble. no idea what the problem is now
[02:44] <daftykins> rideh: switch to TTY1, log in as your user and check no file in ~ is owned by root instead of the user
[02:45] <rideh> done they are all showing as correct user
[02:47] <stanton> Anyone know how to fix the rtl8188ee driver issue, or will it have to be fixed with a kernel update
[02:48] <rideh> daftykins, yeah showing as my correct user, i've removed the files temporarily from that folder and rebooted to try agaqin to make sure i didnt have a version of config conflict
[02:48] <rideh> daftykins, no change, still successfully login but it sends me back to the login screen
[02:48] <daftykins> rideh: you did do "ls -al" to check, right?
[02:49] <rideh> daftykins, yes
[02:49] <rideh> well, ll but same result
[02:50] <steve> any one out there like to fuck?
[02:51] <steve> yo any one there
[02:52] <rideh> daftykins, i'm not seeing anything in the logs that is helping me get a better idea either
[02:54] <daftykins> rideh: oh wait you've done some home folder trickery, i don't have a clue about any of that
[02:54] <rideh> daftykins, yeah mounted a host shared folder as my home folder
[02:54] <rideh> daftykins, tried via fstab, and rc.local
[02:55] <daftykins> that's never gonna work because permissions 0o
[02:55] <rideh> done it before in past windows/ubuntu..
[02:55] <rideh> what has changed with perms that would prevent?
[02:55] <daftykins> i don't know, but i wouldn't even try that
[02:55] <daftykins> i'd maybe mount it as a subfolder... *maybe* but the standard is /media/mountpoint
[02:56] <rideh> yeah but i'm trying to share profiles between 3 systems so i dont have to replicate everything
[02:56] <rideh> keeping everything in sync sucks
[02:56] <daftykins> that's a horrible idea
[02:56] <rideh> whys that?
[02:58] <rideh> i'm careful of file locks
[02:58] <deadmund> rideh: I don't think it's a horrible idea, but usually the permissions will get messed up.
[02:58] <deadmund> rideh: What are the OSs of the three systems?
[02:58] <rideh> well the host is windows and guest is ubuntu so afaik they use differnt schemes
[02:59] <deadmund> rideh: I don't know what the hell windows does when it sees ext4 / unix permissions
[02:59] <rideh> osx has files that are sorta sycned with windows,... the windows and ubuntu will actually share a filesystem
[02:59] <rideh> deadmund, ignores them
[02:59] <rideh> or did before windows 8. now i dont know
[03:00] <deadmund> IDK either!
[03:05] <rooth> hi, "Shared to other computers" works brilliantly! I just have one question, can you get the connected computer to use the /etc/hosts file from the "server".
[03:08] <specfreq> How can I get the Alternate Ubuntu Install disk? I am installing on a desktop RAID
[03:08] <specfreq> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[03:08] <rideh> where can i see output or flag a verbose mode for logging in to see exactly what is failing?
[03:09] <daftykins> alternate doesn't exist anymore
[03:09] <psusi> specfreq, the alternate installer is no longer around... there is the server edition instead
[03:09] <daftykins> !mini
[03:09] <daftykins> specfreq: also that ^
[03:10] <psusi> though you can still use the desktop installer, you just have to manually install mdadm for raid and configure the raid array yourself on the command line, then fire up the installer to install to it
[03:10] <Kb52> Ok found out after booting into windows that my USB Bluetooth Dongle is hardware defective. Have a TekRam TM-304 but cannot find whatever ubuntu wants to make it work, so no dice.
 The one that might work, because Ubuntu sees it ok, is hardware defective, it appears to work but does not. The Tekram which works fine in Windoze is not able to work in Linux. I guess nobody made a Linux driver for Tekram usb bluetooth dongle. So I am just dead in the water on figuring out how to do it. In lsusb it sees it as a Roper Class 1 Bluetooth Adapter.
[03:12] <Kb52> Any thoughts on getting the Tekram adapter to work, or should I just forget about it ever working?
[03:12] <Ben64> would need the output from lsusb for it
[03:13] <Kb52> I did however figure out HOW to change the main mouse pointer to be correct to the current Xwindows Theme.
[03:15] <sheer> who wants to help a victim out
[03:15] <[n0mad]> well if you need a doctor or lawyer you've come to the right place
[03:16] <sheer> i've been hacked
[03:16] <sheer> and google doesn't have any email addresses
[03:16] <sheer> i almost called them but fuck it
[03:16] <sheer> i just put ubuntu CD in the drive. it's spinning.
[03:16] <Bashing-om> rideh: What one can do is bott up with 'text' boot parameters to see the boot messages .. might be possible to "pause" the output .
[03:17] <Bashing-om> bott/boot*
[03:17] <[n0mad]> well, you probably shouldn't cuss but if you have a question you should probably just ask it and if someone can help they will
[03:17] <sheer> ok so I select run wubi.exe right?
[03:17] <rideh> Bashing-om, hm, boot is happening fine but will that give me a more verbose output for login?
[03:17] <rideh> sheer, what are you talking about
[03:17] <sheer> an ubuntu installation, rideh
[03:18] <Bashing-om> rideh: Yeah ,, ya get a play by play what the boot process is doing .
[03:18] <daftykins> sheer: no WUBI is not supported.
[03:18] <sheer> daftykins,  i hope you're not trolling a victim
[03:18] <rideh> Bashing-om, i can see that in logs now, its just what happens when i try to login to a user profile
[03:18] <daftykins> sheer: i am being serious, don't use it.
[03:18] <rideh> sheer, what do you think happened or is happening
[03:19] <sheer> well i have been hacked
[03:19] <sheer> now i want to install linux
[03:19] <sheer> i have a wubi file, which is apparently not supported
[03:19] <sheer> can I use this cd or do i need to re-download ubuntu?
[03:19] <daftykins> that is not a logical set of events, but if you want to install it, boot from the disc
[03:19] <Bashing-om> rideh: OK, logging into a user profile is long past the boot process.
[03:19] <daftykins> but it can't be a CD as modern versions don't fit on CD anymore
[03:20] <rideh> Bashing-om, correct
[03:20] <sheer> it's 14.04
[03:20] <sheer> i'm starting to feel trolled
[03:20] <rideh> sheer, we're feeling the same
[03:20] <daftykins> that makes three of us
[03:20] <Bashing-om> rideh: Then in that case, all you can do is read the logs.
[03:20] <rideh> what are you trying to do, forensics, wipe, or retal?
[03:20] <sheer> i legit just got hacked 3 days ago but i found out today and i've been up for 24 hours so i'd like to get this ubuntu installation going!
[03:21] <daftykins> yep troll confirmed. ignoring.
[03:21] <rideh> Bashing-om, which log has info from the login process, i'm not seein gthose details in auth, dmesg, etc etc
[03:21] <sheer> wow
[03:21] <sheer> i'm not a troll
[03:21] <sheer> :(
[03:21] <sheer> fuck you
[03:21] <rideh> sheer, how did you get hacked, what happened, what system, we need a few more details than you having a panic attack
[03:22] <Bashing-om> rideh: What issue are you pursuing ? different logs for diferent reasons.
[03:22] <sheer> rideh, i'm not sure how it happened, i tried contacting google, they didn't give me the time of day, the only thing left is to call them as there are no email addresses for support
[03:22] <rideh> depending on the severity a sever attack can persist through reformat
[03:22] <rideh> *severe
[03:22] <sheer> my gmail account got compromised and for all i know, the rest of my system, but i don't know, i am baffled that my gmail was compromised/hacked
[03:22] <sheer> windows or os x as i was using both
[03:22] <rideh> Bashing-om, upon gnome login it just returns back to login screen.
[03:22] <sheer> what else
[03:22] <sheer> i'm not panicking
[03:22] <rideh> what would google have to do with it
[03:22] <sheer> i just want to install ubuntu
[03:22] <[Saint]> and this is why we use 2-factor auth.
[03:22] <daftykins> rideh: technically none of that is really ubuntu support, though
[03:22] <rideh> that makes no sense
[03:22] <sheer> i want them to give me info
[03:23] <rideh> daftykins, fair enough
[03:23] <rideh> sheer, are you running chrome os?
[03:23] <rideh> was the attack via your email
[03:23] <rideh> what would google have to do with it
[03:23] <sheer> i want them to tell me how that hacker's phone got on my device list without any warning or alert
[03:23] <sheer> no, windows andn os x
[03:23] <sheer> rideh,  i just answered that, i want them to give me info
[03:23] <rideh> autherized devices on your google account?
[03:24] <rideh> there are a few ways that can happen, are you using 2 factor?
[03:24] <sheer> i am now
[03:24] <sheer> -_-
[03:24] <rideh> then they had your password and thats all they ever needed
[03:24] <Bashing-om> rideh: What we often see in that event is no authorization to access the GUI .. -> ls -al .Xauthority , ls -al .ICEauthority <-.. The "user" should be owner and grouped not "root".
[03:24] <sheer> rideh, how didi they have my password
[03:24] <daftykins> guys try and steer the conversation toward ubuntu support, or take it to another channel please
[03:24] <rideh> Bashing-om, yes my user is the owner of those files, i've also tried removing the files to see if it would generate new ones
[03:24] <rideh> sheer, do you use that same password for any other website or service?
[03:25] <[Saint]> sheer: odds are, your password sucked.
[03:25] <[Saint]> but this chat isn't relevant here.
[03:25] <rideh> ^
[03:25] <sheer> rideh, i've had that particular conversation already
[03:25] <sheer> it was 16 characters but yes it did suck
[03:25] <sheer> how the fuck can you brute force a gmail password though, bleh, forget it, i want to install ubuntu, do i use wubi and >demo and full install ?
[03:25] <rideh> so at this point you are trying to reinstall your system to make sure you have no exploits and want to use ubuntu?
[03:26] <Ben64> sheer: you've been warned about the language already. stop it
[03:26] <rideh> your best bet is to boot from disk and go install route
[03:26] <daftykins> !language | sheer you will not be warned again
[03:26] <sheer> apolgies.
[03:26] <sheer> apologies.
[03:26] <Bashing-om> rideh: -> echo $XAUTHORITY <- from ctl+alt+F1 console ?
[03:26] <rideh> Bashing-om, its empty
[03:26] <rideh> no value in it
[03:27] <sheer> rideh,  thank you. would this work with a CD that has wubi -type ubuntu on it?
[03:27] <rideh> Saint, its slightly relevant to the security of his install of his next os
[03:27] <daftykins> as i've already said WUBI is dead, unadvisable.
[03:27] <rideh> sheer, how sophisticaed of a hack, have you replaced the harddrive?
[03:27] <daftykins> rideh: can you please STOP enabling the off topic chat?
[03:28] <sheer> daftykins, i believe he's trying to help
[03:28] <Ben64> the 'hack' is not on topic here at all
[03:28] <daftykins> that is not an ubuntu support query
[03:28] <rideh> daftykins, where should he go to talk about hardware sec before installing ubuntu
[03:28] <[Saint]> go to #igothaxoredandimtotallyoverreacting
[03:28] <sheer> daftykins, so i can't use the cd to boot from it.. if it's got a wubi file... to confirm....
[03:28] <daftykins> you can go chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:28] <Ben64> sheer: what version is the ubuntu cd
[03:28] <daftykins> sheer: no, boot directly from the CD
[03:28] <sheer> [Saint], i just wanted to install ubuntu and i've been up for a long time, so have some respect for someone you don't even know, give your ego a rest
[03:28] <daftykins> except it's not a CD it's likely a DVD (:
[03:28] <Bashing-om> rideh: Not sure now that it would return IF no GUI is started ... is there a xsession-errors log in the /home users account . that you can access from your account ?
[03:28] <rideh> sheer just use another computer to burn a dvd iso of a new version of ubuntu and boot from it to install
[03:29] <rideh> sheer you are being a bit unreaosnable
[03:29] <rideh> some folks trying to help, some reminding you of the rules of where you are
[03:29] <[Saint]> and other sick of the ranting.
[03:29] <sheer> It is a DVD.
[03:29] <rideh> if this was a targeted attack i can see some of the motive
[03:29] <Ben64> sheer: ok, boot off of it and come back
[03:30] <daftykins> rideh: stop.
[03:30] <tanuki> Is there a way to install the quassel-core package from Vivid onto my Trusty server?
[03:30] <Ben64> tanuki: no
[03:30] <tanuki> Okay, then is there a clean way to install from source?
[03:30] <[Saint]> tanuki: just build it yourself.
[03:31] <[Saint]> yes, go to #quassel
[03:31] <rideh> Bashing-om, i get to the xlogin screen if i unmount the new home i can login normally. if i mount the new home, i login and it pauses, black screen then back to login screen
[03:31] <tanuki> [Saint]: Already there.
[03:32] <tanuki> But the issue is with Ubuntu's package system: How do I make sure a version I build from source will play nice with the system?
[03:32] <tanuki> (things like "service quasselcore foo")
[03:32] <daftykins> by not having the package installed
[03:35] <Bashing-om> rideh: fstab entry for new /home mount correct ?
[03:36] <rideh> Bashing-om, i've tried fstab, fstab with _netdev, i've tried mounting during rc.local
[03:36] <rideh> i've added vboxsf in /etc/modules
[03:37] <rideh> when i get to the login screen and drop out to console and login i can verify its had time to mount the shared filesystem as home with correct perms
[03:37] <rideh> then i attempt to login and it bails back to login
[03:37] <rideh> sorry that wasnt clear, i can login via console, but i cannot login via xsession
[03:39] <veryrandomnick> I booted from the DVD. Ubuntu with a purple background came up, and now the monitor's gone dark.
[03:39] <daftykins> !nomodeset
[03:39] <Bashing-om> rideh: the file /etc/fstab is where all the action takes place .. got to have an establsihed mount point, and the UUID must be correct . http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131 <- bodhi.zazen -Understanding fstab
[03:40] <rideh> Bashing-om, familiar with how that works, when i was loading via fstab without adding the vboxsf in modules it couldnt mount due to timing, then it was a matter of waiting for network communications to be active which was acocmplished with _netdev
[03:41] <rideh> Bashing-om, so regarding where it's accomplishing the mount its more a matter of it just loading in the proper order, still not sure why any of this would prevent login
[03:41] <Bashing-om> rideh: sorry, above my skill set too .
[03:42] <ericb> I installed a mail server on my gui lamp 10.04 server, and keep getting nonstop packets saying "standard query response, no such name" and "standard query A mail" and need to find out how to deactivate the mail server, but don't know what it's called.
[03:42] <ericb> So can anyone help me with how to find that out?
[03:42] <veryrandomnick> I have that little window opened, the one from F6
[03:42] <Ben64> ericb: how did you install it
[03:42] <rideh> Bashing-om, thanks for trying
[03:42] <veryrandomnick> should I select anything from it or?
[03:43] <ericb> Ben64: I can't remember :\ it worked when I needed it, but it has been a while since installing it and I would prefer to turn it off
[03:43] <Bashing-om> RichiH: Wish I had grater experience. Perhpas others can address your issue.
[03:43] <Ben64> ericb: also, you need to upgrade
[03:44] <veryrandomnick> the options are: acpi=off, noapic, nolapic, edd=on, nodmraid, nomodeet, free software only
[03:44] <veryrandomnick> (or try ubuntu w/out installing, install ubuntu)
[03:44] <Bashing-om> veryrandomnick: "nimodeset' from that selection list - tab to move about ,, and space to accept .. best I recall .
[03:45] <veryrandomnick> down arrow works
[03:46] <veryrandomnick> nomodset, you mean, right?
[03:46] <veryrandomnick> nomodeset*
[03:46] <veryrandomnick> that's gotta be what you meant
[03:47] <Bashing-om> veryrandomnick: Yes - "nomodeset" - for booting with the default system graphics device because of that purple screen .. at a later time in the install a proper driver can be installed .
[03:47] <veryrandomnick> after selecting it I assume i press escape?
[03:47] <veryrandomnick> because selecting it brings a cross next to it
[03:48] <veryrandomnick> oh, F6 and then install?
[03:48] <ericb> Is there a way to determine what process is causing repeated packets in wireshark saying "standard query A mail" on linux?
[03:49] <deadmund> ericb: Look at the port number then use netstat  ?
[03:49] <Bashing-om> veryrandomnick: F6 brings up the boot options ... and best I recall once an option is selected .. and added to the kernel boot line it is space to continue the boot process (??) .
[03:51] <veryrandomnick> space bar selects and unselects the nomodeset kernel option
[03:52] <veryrandomnick> i await further instruction
[03:52] <veryrandomnick> =]
[03:53] <rideh> ericb do you have anything trying to send a queue of mail?
[03:55] <ericb> deadmund: what do i type to see what is running with that port number?
[03:56] <ericb> rideh: it is a mail server that I installed a while ago, I'm pretty certain
[03:56] <Bashing-om> veryrandomnick:  f6 key (other options) -> arrow down to the preset option(s)space or enter to accept and then the escape key to exit; Enter key to continue the boot process to the GUI desk top .
[03:56] <Ben64> ericb: you really really need to upgrade to a newer version of ubuntu
[03:57] <rideh> ericb thats easily googlable
[03:57] <veryrandomnick> so >install ubuntu , not try ubuntu, right?
[03:57] <ericb> rideh: i may be googling the wrong thing then
[03:58] <rideh> "netstat query specific port"
[03:58] <ericb> ben64: what for?
[03:58] <Bashing-om> veryrandomnick: NO ! If you have not "tried ubuntu" you need to .. to make sure all devices function .. and you like the system as you see it ... ( check disl for defects though ) .// then install .
[03:58] <k2gremlin> Hey all, My Ubuntu server is my DHCP server for my Lan. If I point clients to it for DNS, website fail. If I point them to google at 8.8.8.8 they work. How can I make it so my server handles the DNS requests?
[03:58] <Ben64> ericb: 10.04 server is losing support this month, and you said you have a gui on it, which has lost support 2 years ago
[03:58] <veryrandomnick> idk what disl is
[03:58] <veryrandomnick> i'm confident that i want to run ubuntu/linux, so long as it works ofc
[03:59] <k2gremlin> veryrandomnick, get used to doing research lol
[03:59] <Bashing-om> disl/disk ** cat pestering me  for attention .. sorry .
[03:59] <k2gremlin> Do I need to setup Bind9?
[03:59] <veryrandomnick> ok, i will follow instructions and try Ubuntu
[04:00] <deadmund> ericb: netstat -a -t  (then look for the port number)
[04:00] <deadmund> ericb: grep might be helpful
[04:00] <ericb> ben64: oh didn't know that. well it is just a temporary server
[04:01] <deadmund> veryrandomnick: Oh, it works.
[04:01] <veryrandomnick> it seems to be working
[04:02] <Bashing-om> veryrandomnick: :: very good .. that issures there are no surprises later after the install . Play with the system, make sure you like what you see . ( be awaare there are about 20 different Desktop environments that one can choose to use ) .
[04:02] <deadmund> There's about 20 different of _everything_
[04:03] <veryrandomnick> there are only 7 days of creation, deadmund
[04:03] <daftykins> k2gremlin: waste of time but you'd need to configure your system as a DNS cacher and forwarder, yeah
[04:04] <k2gremlin> Well im trying to reduce outbound DNS traffic
[04:05] <daftykins> k2gremlin: why?
[04:05] <k2gremlin> daftykins, because im bored :P
[04:05] <daftykins> -_-
[04:05] <k2gremlin> home network
[04:05] <veryrandomnick> i'm starting to worry, since my screen is dim, not showing anything.........
[04:05] <k2gremlin> :)
[04:05] <veryrandomnick> perhaps wubi doesn't work
[04:05] <k2gremlin> server is full proxy with content filter for kids lol
[04:05] <veryrandomnick> as a boot disk
[04:06] <cfhowlett> wubi?  WUBI??? kill it with fire, it's dead, Jim, speak not the name of curse.
[04:06] <cfhowlett> Wubi is dead, abandonware and IT WILL BREAK your ubuntu 14.04+
[04:06] <deadmund> veryrandomnick: wubi never works right
[04:06] <veryrandomnick> ugh
[04:06] <veryrandomnick> i guess i'll download ubuntu nonwubi
[04:07] <daftykins> veryrandomnick: you already have a standard image, it has nothing to do with WUBI... stop mentioning it
[04:07] <Kb52> Whats a wubi obi wan?
[04:07] <cfhowlett> ?? there IS no ubuntu "non-wubi".  just use the normal ubuntu .iso and dual boot or virtualbox
[04:07] <veryrandomnick> daftykins see cfhowlett , deadmund , others.......
[04:07] <daftykins> veryrandomnick: as i linked, enable nomodeset, then boot 'try'
[04:07] <veryrandomnick> daftykins did that
[04:07] <daftykins> and?
[04:07] <veryrandomnick> am now waiting in front of a dimmed screen
[04:07] <veryrandomnick> nothing is showing
[04:07] <daftykins> it's likely you did it wrong.
[04:08] <veryrandomnick> i don't know how one could do that wrong
[04:08] <daftykins> perhaps you toggled 'nomodeset' on the F6 menu too many times and turned it off again
[04:08] <veryrandomnick> i'll reset then
[04:08] <veryrandomnick> and try again
[04:08] <Kb52> Does anyone really know how many ways one can destroy Ubuntu?
[04:08] <daftykins> if you didn't reach a working desktop, you messed up
[04:08] <daftykins> Kb52: either phrase a support question or leave, please
[04:08] <veryrandomnick> let's put what you said to the test ^_^
[04:10] <daftykins> veryrandomnick: well what i say doesn't rule out the human element...
[04:10] <Kb52> Well my 1 and only problem is to determine if a Tek-Ram 304 USB Bluetooth adapter can be made to work in Ubuntu or not.
[04:10] <daftykins> yeah if you get nothing from searching online, can't help you
[04:11] <veryrandomnick> ubuntu 14.04 . . . . (like last time)
[04:11] <daftykins> well the 'DVD' isn't going to change version spontaneously
[04:12] <veryrandomnick> daftykins it's gone back to the dark screen
[04:13] <veryrandomnick> guess it's time to think about downloading it again
[04:13] <daftykins> yes it'll take a long time to load if it's really a DVD you're putting into a real physical computer
[04:13] <veryrandomnick> eh?
[04:13] <veryrandomnick> oh
[04:13] <veryrandomnick> well
[04:13] <veryrandomnick> i assure you, the computer is real
[04:13] <daftykins> watch the optical drive light for whether it's busy or not
[04:13] <deadmund> It might take a few minutes.  Especially if it's one of those old 2x or 4x DVD players.
[04:13] <veryrandomnick> it is
[04:14] <Kb52> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 1310:0001 Roper Class 1 Bluetooth Dongle
[04:14] <Kb52>  is the line from lsusb. I have researched it online the answers are either outdated or just not making sense. There is no updated list to determine what ones do work. It indicated a possibility.
[04:14] <daftykins> you've got other problems if you've put an ubuntu disc in a DVD player ;)
[04:15] <veryrandomnick> is there any reason not to update a phone? for example if I want to run a custom rom on it
[04:15] <cfhowlett> Kb52, for dongle problems, the saner suggestion is to dump the questionable device and purchase one from the ubuntu certified list.
[04:15] <Bashing-om> veryrandomnick: Takes a bit of time to uncompress, load into ram .. and then start the system .. give it lots of time .
[04:15] <cfhowlett> veryrandomnick, ask #ubuntu-touch
[04:15] <daftykins> veryrandomnick: off topic.
[04:15] <veryrandomnick> LG super multi
[04:16] <veryrandomnick> super multi implying burning ^_^
[04:16] <veryrandomnick> Bashing-om I have an i5
[04:16] <daftykins> what are you rambling on about 0o
[04:16] <veryrandomnick> daftykins nothing, but then, what's with the dvd player comment
[04:17] <Kb52> Well I found one lying around and it sees it but now know it has hardware failed, so I plan to take to my cell phone freind for a look under the microscope before tossing it.
[04:17] <daftykins> if you didn't get it, the moment has passed
[04:17] <veryrandomnick> i haven't eaten since yesterday, b
[04:17] <veryrandomnick> it's been 5 minutes
[04:18] <veryrandomnick> green light has stopped, so has the disk spinning
[04:18] <veryrandomnick> but monitor is still blank
[04:19] <ethan> pls help
[04:19]  * veryrandomnick waits.
[04:20] <Guest94668> help me please
[04:20] <Kb52> The Tekram is more about knowing why its not supported. The tekram works fine in Windoze of course. My only real desire is to use it with Clementine with the Wii remote to control Clementine using the Wii remote. Sadly the Windoze based Celementine does not have the same ability, instead it supports use of smartphone remote via wifi.
[04:20] <daftykins> with WHAT?
[04:20] <veryrandomnick> should I pick the LTS which has guaranteed in the paragraph description, or 14.10 which doesn't have guaranteed in the description?
[04:20] <cfhowlett> !ask | Guest94668
[04:21] <veryrandomnick> "guaranteed" *
[04:21] <Guest94668> i cant install spotify, broken packages, having issues fixing
[04:21] <Guest94668> to do with  libnspr4-0d
[04:21] <Kb52> Ok well this is the only time I ever have asked this question.
[04:22] <veryrandomnick> there's always a first time for only time
[04:22] <veryrandomnick> it's been 10 minutes now.
[04:22] <cfhowlett> !patience | veryrandomnick,
[04:22] <veryrandomnick> i'm just surprised. i have lots of ram and everything.
[04:23] <Bashing-om> veryrandomnick: You want the LTS re;ease 14.04 . You must verify the .iso image - ttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM - verify the burn - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto . Then boot to 'Try ubuntu" .
[04:23] <Bashing-om> veryrandomnick: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM .
[04:24] <Macintoshes60> Does anyone know of a Free Software, that allows me to convert Epub to (PDF and ODT)?
[04:29] <veryrandomnick> i don't wanna be that guy
[04:29] <veryrandomnick> you're technically right
[04:29] <daftykins> you kinda have been since you came online :)
[04:29] <Kb52> Ok well it seems clear that I appear to be annoying everyone so I guess I should leave.
[04:29] <veryrandomnick> "if you didn't reach a working desktop, you messed up"
[04:29] <veryrandomnick> oh
[04:30] <veryrandomnick> but i got hacked
[04:30] <veryrandomnick> you gotta understand :)
[04:30] <daftykins> that is not of any relevance to us
[04:30] <veryrandomnick> i still feel strangely welcome
[04:30] <veryrandomnick> so thank you
[04:30] <daftykins> you could be the King of Romania hoping to convert your fair country to open source software, it still wouldn't matter
[04:31] <daftykins> but for what it's worth, if you really are telling the truth and are not a troll, changing from Windows to Ubuntu because of some silly claim of being hacked - is a really silly move
[04:31] <cfhowlett> this ^^^
[04:31] <veryrandomnick> fyi I installed ubuntu on my grandmother's computer in 2008ish
[04:32] <daftykins> we don't need a life story
[04:32] <veryrandomnick> daftykins, no
[04:32] <veryrandomnick> i wanted to move to linux for a long time
[04:32] <veryrandomnick> and no, i'm not trolling, i seriously got hacked, it's baffling
[04:32] <Kb52> daftykins are you here to kick us all out?
[04:33] <daftykins> don't be silly.
[04:33] <veryrandomnick> i kicked myself out of a channel last night
[04:33] <daftykins> Kb52: you keep asking about a topic nobody knows about, so you don't get replied to... it happens...
[04:33] <veryrandomnick> it was an accident though.
[04:34] <Kb52> Ok well finding an answer in IRC is basically a crap shoot, so I chose here where at this time there is anyone on here.
[04:35] <daftykins> nah you're just asking about one of the least useful technologies in computers i think
[04:35] <daftykins> i can count on one hand how many times i've used bluetooth in my life.
[04:35] <Kb52> Besides there are no wrong questions. I was doing IRC back in the 80s from dialup, so not much has changed really.
[04:36] <daftykins> well there are based on the rules of this channel, but anyway this is off topic rambling
[04:36] <daftykins> you asked a question, nobody knew how to help, except the suggestion of buying another bluetooth adapter which i agree with - job done
[04:36] <Kb52> Ok well its quite flaky overall but does certain things.
[04:38] <Kb52> Well I dont agree so anyhow moving onto a different subject. I am looking to figure out xscreensaver and where to or how to remove and add the various screensavers. Is that off topic as well?
[04:39] <daftykins> sigh. i don't get why you idiots crawl out of the woodwork at this time
[04:39] <Kb52> Ok so what are you here to help with then?
[04:39] <cfhowlett> Kb52, sudo apt-get purge xscreensaver*        also, less attitude = more help.
[04:39] <daftykins> read the topic.
[04:41] <Emma764> Hi!
[04:41] <Kb52> And neither are you.
[04:42] <Emma764> Welcome
[04:42] <cfhowlett> Emma764, ask your ubuntu questions
[04:42] <Emma764> Welcome
[04:42] <veryrandomnick> i'm sensing a troll is nearby
[04:42] <veryrandomnick> ...
[04:43] <veryrandomnick> that was weird
[04:43] <Kb52> daftykins you seem bent on simply not offering any positive advice. Really I could care less.
[04:44] <daftykins> Kb52: if i don't know the topics you're asking about, then i can't help - surprisingly enough
[04:44] <daftykins> if you had a question on graphics hardware or driver issues then i'd be set - but shockingly enough we don't all know everything
[04:44] <et09> is there a tray "start menu" widget?
[04:44] <et09> especially, one with autogenerated listings for programs?
[04:44] <et09> for non-unity users
[04:45] <Kb52> Since Ubuntu does have bluetooth built into it, then asking for help with it is not off topic. Nobody said you know everything, for if you did then you would be a part of this channel.
[04:45] <Kb52> Instead you could be godlike.
[04:45] <daftykins> Kb52: *facepalm* i never claimed your bluetooth query was off topic.
[04:46] <daftykins> anyway you've crossed over into insane territory for me now, i hope to never encounter you again.
[04:46] <veryrandomnick> is it possible that it's not working, daftykins because i had 2 monitors plugged in as opposed to one?
[04:46] <et09> what'd i come into
[04:46] <daftykins> just the usual idiots.
[04:46] <Kb52> Ok then why are you responding to a question you have no knowledge of whatsoever?
[04:46] <veryrandomnick> Kb52 hush
[04:46] <veryrandomnick> i asked a real question
[04:46] <daftykins> because you keep demanding an answer like a child
[04:47] <Kb52> I am not demanding anything, but you seem to be demanding that everyone here are complete idiots.
[04:48] <cluelessperson> hey guys, I have a script I wrote.  The site loads very quickly, but for some reason thsi script seems to be pretty slow.
[04:48] <cluelessperson> http://cluelessperson.com/slice/de6d4e/2
[04:48] <cluelessperson> I think it may be that stdin is that slow or something
[04:48] <Kb52> If you dont have an answer why are you complaining about what people ask?
[04:49] <et09> cluelessperson: #python
[04:49] <cluelessperson> et09, I'm banned there.
[04:49] <cluelessperson> Asshole mod
[04:49] <et09> what'd you do
[04:49] <cfhowlett> cluelessperson, not really an ubuntu issue: #python.  Also, lose the profanity
[04:49] <et09> try changing your IP ;)
[04:50] <cluelessperson> cfhowlett, If it's being run ON ubuntu, and the stdin pipe is slow, then actually it IS ubuntu
[04:50] <cfhowlett> cluelessperson, your programming in python.  this is ubuntu support.
[04:50] <cluelessperson> et09, I can't change my ip, my isp sucks.
[04:50] <cluelessperson> cfhowlett, It's a python script run from ubuntu.  Most likely the stdout/in pipe command in UBUNTU is what's being slow
[04:51] <cluelessperson> that's an ubuntu issue, stop being dense.
[04:51] <cfhowlett> right then.  /ignore deployed
[04:51] <cluelessperson> cfhowlett, moron
[04:51] <cluelessperson> the syntax is   command | slice     That pipes the stdout from the command to the python script.
[04:52] <cluelessperson> I don't know python to be that slow, and as I explicitly stated, I believe it to be an issue with stdin/out which IS of ubuntu/linux
[04:52] <cluelessperson> don't be stupid
[04:52] <veryrandomnick> is it possible that it's not working because i had 2 monitors plugged in as opposed to one?
[04:52] <veryrandomnick> the DL is almost finished anyway, just wanted to know though
[04:52] <cluelessperson> veryrandomnick, I wasn't here for the earlier part of the conversation, I dunno
[04:53] <veryrandomnick> cluelessperson, just trying to install ubuntu
[04:53] <cluelessperson> veryrandomnick, and what didn't work?
[04:53] <veryrandomnick> got a blank screen, picked a kernel with f6, it went on, then it went blank again
[04:54] <cluelessperson> veryrandomnick, you using a gpu/graphics card?
[04:54] <veryrandomnick> yes
[04:55] <zykotick9> veryrandomnick: did you already try nomodeset? <- just checkin' as this is the most common cause for black screen preventing proper booting
[04:55] <veryrandomnick> yes
[04:55] <zykotick9> ok
[04:55] <veryrandomnick> :^)
[04:55] <veryrandomnick> thanks
[04:55] <Kb52> Does anyone know how to get hdmi and analog sound to work at the same time?
[04:56] <veryrandomnick> Kb52 google harder
[04:56] <cluelessperson> Kb52, If the application allows you to route the sound I believe.
[04:56] <veryrandomnick> (maybe it will help)
[04:58] <Kb52> Ok that makes more sense, so if example I wanted Gnome player to play a movie and route audio to hdmi, which I do not know if gnome player has that option, then it can work on a per application basis.
[04:59] <snkcld> i have a full screen game in my top right workspoace, but when i go to my top left, it automatically minimizes the game
[04:59] <snkcld> how can i prevent ubuntu from autominimizing the game when i move to the other workspace?
[04:59] <glitchd> hello all
[04:59] <glitchd> *hello room
[04:59] <glitchd> lol
[04:59] <kokut> Hello, anyone knows some linux application to reduce the size of mp3's without loosing much quality?
[05:00] <glitchd> im have a weird problem..
[05:00] <cfhowlett> kokut, audacity
[05:00] <veryrandomnick> so
[05:00] <veryrandomnick> the DVD won't eject
[05:00] <kokut> cfhowlett: k gonna try it out i guess
[05:00] <glitchd> i used the dd command to basically make a live usb, however now it has the iso i used in the command mounted as a partition
[05:01] <glitchd> i cant for the life of me figure out how to unmount it and keep it unmounted
[05:01] <veryrandomnick> daftykins dvd won't eject now
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> !mount | glitchd
[05:01] <Kb52> Is kokut a good one? I would also like to find something that can batch convert stuff.
[05:01] <glitchd> thx veryrandomnick
[05:02] <daniel> guys
[05:02] <kokut> Kb52: i'm trying it out
[05:02] <daniel> please need some help
[05:02] <cfhowlett> !ask | daniel
[05:02] <Guest44087> i did not have swap memory but now i did one but it is not in use
[05:02] <Guest44087> what should i do?
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> !swap | danielbrazilian
[05:03] <glitchd> danielbrazilian, so u have swap space but the system is not using it?
[05:03] <danielbrazilian> in my case i am not having enough memory to compile android
[05:03] <danielbrazilian> yeah it is not using
[05:04] <Sramelyor3301> hey guys why is it taking me about 10 minutes to boot up ubuntu??
[05:04] <glitchd> danielbrazilian,  sudo swapon /dev/???
[05:04] <danielbrazilian> i am on ubuntu mate 14.04 LTS 64bit
[05:04] <glitchd> i need to figure out how to stop this iso from being mounted a partition every time i log in..
[05:05] <glitchd> danielbrazilian, are you using display drivers?
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> danielbrazilian: you can try swappiness and preload
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> Sramelyor3301: ubuntu version?
[05:05] <Sramelyor3301> Hey guys how do I reduce the boot up time for ubuntu. Its taking me forver to boot up. Please help
[05:06] <kokut> Kb52: it might work but for batch stuff it might be slow, i dont know how to export many files at once
[05:06] <danielbrazilian> display drivers?
[05:06] <Sramelyor3301> lotuspsychje -> utopic unicorn
[05:06] <danielbrazilian> intel hd 4400
[05:06] <Sramelyor3301> 14.10
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> Sramelyor3301: you can try F1 at your boot, to see what gets stuck
[05:07] <Sramelyor3301> lotuspsychje -> how do I know what is getting stuck. Sorry I am a newbie. I have very less tech knowledge
[05:07] <Kb52> Well guess I will go have a look at kokut then.
[05:08] <glitchd> Sramelyor3301, youll see the post and will be able to see what fails
[05:08] <kokut> Kb52: what u mean kokut? xD
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> Sramelyor3301: with F1 you will see the boot process and when you see something get freezed, look the part that 'fails'
[05:08] <Sramelyor3301> oh
[05:08] <Sramelyor3301> okay
[05:08] <Sramelyor3301> will try and get back tnx :)
[05:08] <danielbrazilian> sorry i was disconnected
[05:09] <Kb52> Sramelyor3301 Is the computer hardware known to be stable, in that it runs fine in the past? I guess that would be the first thing to know.
[05:09] <danielbrazilian> so please how can i make swap work?
[05:09] <cfhowlett> !swap | danielbrazilian read the link
[05:10] <danielbrazilian> ok i will read
[05:10] <Tim> my powertop is not running
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> danielbrazilian: you can install preload and clean out your pc with bleachbit
[05:10] <Tim> i am getting this error on powertop "no stats available; run as root or enable the cpufreq_stats module"?
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> Tim: what happens when you sudo
[05:11] <danielbrazilian> i used gparted to create my linux-swap
[05:11] <veryrandomnick> do i just compare the MD5SUM or also calculate ?
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> danielbrazilian: why did you not use the swap created automaticly from the ubuntu setup?
[05:12] <Sramelyor3301> I tried F1. It ended up showing me the system information. No boot processos at all.
[05:12] <glitchd> danielbrazilian, but did u turn swap on in the system itself?
[05:12] <Kb52> swap will not be used until physical ram is used to the swappiness level sort of. I think they need to look at system monitor to know if the system is in need to make it work. Load up a ton of applications and see if the same one you want to use swap is using it.
[05:12] <danielbrazilian> at first i though i woudl not need swap
[05:12] <danielbrazilian> but not i think i do
[05:12] <Tim> lotuspsychje i get this message "no stats available; run as root or enable the cpufreq_stats module"
[05:12] <danielbrazilian> and i created with gpated
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> danielbrazilian: reinstall fresh, and let ubuntu choose the swap for you
[05:12] <Tim> even on running on sudo
[05:13] <glitchd> danielbrazilian, how big is your swap partition?
[05:13] <danielbrazilian> glitchd, turn on the system how?
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> Tim: hmm thats weird indeed
[05:13] <Sramelyor3301> lotuspsychje F1 didn't show anything. No boot processes
[05:13] <danielbrazilian> 8 gb swap
[05:13] <danielbrazilian> i actually have 6 gb of memory
[05:13] <glitchd> danielbrazilian, from command line "sudo swapon /dev/sd?"
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> Sramelyor3301: did you press F1 after POST ?
[05:13] <Kb52> By default the swap partition will mirror the amount of system physical ram.
[05:13] <Sramelyor3301> after POST??
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> Sramelyor3301: the bios loading
[05:14] <danielbrazilian> glitchd, ohh man it is on now!!
[05:14] <danielbrazilian> thank you all!
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> Sramelyor3301: nevermind, check your syslog and dmesg logs for errors
[05:15] <danielbrazilian> i will make some test and see if it is actually in use ;)
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> Sramelyor3301: we cant help you until you find out what freezes your system
[05:15] <Sramelyor3301> See. I show the symbol HP come up. I pressed F1, Showed system information. Thn pressed esc and got out of it. Thn it ended up showing a blank screen (just as usual). When ubuntu was being shown I pressed F1 showed few commands thn it automatically got me onto the login screen
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> Sramelyor3301: you need to wait after the HP symbol, when ubuntu actually starts booting
[05:16] <glitchd> danielbrazilian, there is a command u can run to see how much your system is using it
[05:16] <Sramelyor3301> How do I check my syslog and dmesg logs?
[05:16] <cast> danielbrazilian: i'll be curious to find if you actually need it, i find if i reach a state of /needing/ swap, the machine because so slow its better to just reconsider my RAM requirements
[05:16] <Kb52> However since unlike windoze the swap is a fixed size, it wont be something most people get too concerned about. Thus begs the question how does Linux allocate memory when you exhaust the physical and swap space? Anyone happen to know?
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> Sramelyor3301: type dmesg in a terminal and check your syslog in /var/log/syslog
[05:16] <danielbrazilian> cast, i am in need to compile cm12 for my nexus 7 it takes all the memory and computer freezes
[05:16] <Sramelyor3301> okay jam
[05:17] <danielbrazilian> glitchd, can you tell me the command to see?
[05:17] <danielbrazilian> i am using system monitor
[05:17] <Sramelyor3301> lotuspsychje http://paste.ubuntu.com/10831251/ <- dmesg
[05:18] <Bashing-om> veryrandomnick: compare : do terminal command -> md5sun ~/Downloads/ubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso <- the return is the hash ...  compare that to the published hash ,
[05:18] <danielbrazilian> glitchd, after that command you gave me the amount of swap appeared
[05:18] <Bashing-om> md5sum*
[05:18] <veryrandomnick> i compared it, i burnt it, .....
[05:18] <veryrandomnick> and i fucked it up?!
[05:18] <veryrandomnick> sorry language
[05:18] <veryrandomnick> wow.
[05:18] <glitchd> danielbrazilian, goodgood glad to hear it worked for you
[05:19] <Sramelyor3301> lotuspsychje how do I show u the syslog?? Btw there is one named syslog and another syslog1.
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> Sramelyor3301: this doesnt sound very good: Your BIOS is broken; DMAR reported at address 0!
[05:19] <danielbrazilian> glitchd, thank you so much it is working perfectly now!
[05:19] <glitchd> danielbrazilian, very glad to hear it=)
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> Sramelyor3301: pastebin them also
[05:19] <Sramelyor3301> WHATTTT omg
[05:19] <Bashing-om> veryrandomnick: How did you burn it .. and to what .. DVD USB ? and on what operating system ?
[05:19] <Sramelyor3301> jam
[05:19] <veryrandomnick> non USB, windows 7
[05:19] <Sramelyor3301> but which file?
[05:20] <Sramelyor3301> lotuspsychje syslog1 or syslog?
[05:20] <cfhowlett> broken bios?!  never seen that one before.  it sounds ... ominous
[05:20] <danielbrazilian> glitchd, by the way i just have finished to build CM12 for my nexus 7 :)
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> Sramelyor3301: the one thats full :p
[05:20] <veryrandomnick> dammmit
[05:20] <veryrandomnick> i burnt it wrong
[05:21] <veryrandomnick> i don't think i have any more dvd's
[05:21] <glitchd> ...have fun?
[05:21] <glitchd> danielbrazilian, ^^
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> Sramelyor3301: alot of issues in there mate [Firmware Bug]: ACPI: No _BQC method, cannot determine initial brightness
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> Sramelyor3301: acpi, memory,...
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> Sramelyor3301: i would try 14.04.2 right away and see if you got such problems aswell
[05:22] <Sramelyor3301> lotuspsychje - syslog file -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10831257/ syslog1 file -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10831259/
[05:23] <Synchron> Anybody knows why I cant get aricrack-ng in 14.04?
[05:23] <Sramelyor3301> SO now I have to unistall 14.10??? I had just recently installed it with all the updates
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> Sramelyor3301: if you want more stable, you can try 14.04 LTS
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> Sramelyor3301: in your case i would surely try it
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> Sramelyor3301: you can also try a no_acpi boot
[05:24] <Sramelyor3301> So you think I should revert to 10/04 stable now?
[05:24] <Sramelyor3301> no_acpi boot?
[05:24] <Kb52> Well that is an insteresting aid there to seeing what actual hardware is in the system. So now It just did reveal more about my blutooth adapter.
[05:24] <cfhowlett> 10.04 is end of life.  14.04???
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> Sramelyor3301: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> Sramelyor3301: i would also doublecheck your rams one by one
[05:25] <Sramelyor3301> How do I go about doing that?
[05:25] <Synchron> Can Lubuntu & Xubuntu in one system at the same time?
[05:26] <cfhowlett> Synchron, no need for 2 OS.  install one and then install the alternate Desktop Environment.
[05:26] <Kb52> Synchron should be dooable.
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> Sramelyor3301: sarazes kernel: [    0.098082] mtrr: probably your BIOS does not setup all CPUs.
[05:26] <cfhowlett> Synchron, or install one + virtualbox + other OS
[05:27] <glitchd> what could cause an iso to automatically mount when my system loads?
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> Sramelyor3301: you need to check your hardware and bios mate, if everything works still good
[05:27] <Sramelyor3301> oh. So what do u suggest I proceed doing now?
[05:27] <Sramelyor3301> How do I go about doing that
[05:27] <cfhowlett> Sramelyor3301, bios checks should be in your POST options
[05:27] <Sramelyor3301> I did a physical test. It passed. I haven't done a memory test yet
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> Sramelyor3301: install 14.04, check bios, check ram,try no_acpi boot
[05:27] <Kb52> Sramelyor3301 At the Grub (Boot Screen) choose memtest and/or by booting the install DVD and same option of the Grub bootscreen.
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> Sramelyor3301: you have alot of work now :p
[05:28] <cluelessperson> how's everyone doing?
[05:28] <Sramelyor3301> damn. How can the BIOS be broken??
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> Sramelyor3301: dont blame ubuntu for it :p
[05:28] <Synchron> I ve install Xubuntu-desktop,but when I install Lubuntu-desktop,apt told me there r some packages uninstallable...
[05:28] <Sramelyor3301> nah. Mine is a very old laptop
[05:29] <cfhowlett> Synchron, sudo apt-get xfce4    will get you the look and feel for xubuntu but not the apps.
[05:29] <Synchron> How to fix it?
[05:29] <Sramelyor3301> Its working alll fine do u think its safe to continue with my current configs right now? I can't spare much time for this right now
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> Sramelyor3301: very old laptops perhaps perform better with lubuntu/xubuntu
[05:29] <Sramelyor3301> how diffferent are they from ubuntu?
[05:29] <cfhowlett> !flavors | Sramelyor3301
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> Sramelyor3301: lighter for your hardware
[05:30] <Sramelyor3301> oh
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> Sramelyor3301: maybe thats why boot takes 10min
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> Sramelyor3301: try a lubuntu 14.04
[05:30] <Sramelyor3301> but I can still use the same applications that I use on ubuntu 14.10 right?
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> Sramelyor3301: yes, the lightweight versions
[05:31] <ericb> How can I find out what is trying to send packets with dbus on random ports saying "standard query A mail" non stop?
[05:31] <Sramelyor3301> okay. I will try. thanks :) but is there a way to move over to lubuntu with all the applications that I already have on ubuntu?
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> Sramelyor3301: i would suggest you start fresh
[05:31] <explodes> Hello! Wicd's tray icon isn't showing up, and I've followed the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WICD
[05:31] <Synchron> I got ubuntu-rootfs first,then I install Xubuntu-desktop successfully,but when I insall Lubuntu-desktop,apt told me there r some packages uninstallable...
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> Sramelyor3301: and dont forget enable internet + updates during setup
[05:32] <Sramelyor3301> so lubuntu is just lightweight but it wouldn't be very different from what I have in terms of application supprt
[05:32] <cfhowlett> Sramelyor3301, clean install ...
[05:32] <Sramelyor3301> hmm
[05:32] <Sramelyor3301> damn
[05:32] <Kb52> It seems that performance mainly appears to hover around the particular Xwindows that your running. However in my very little experience its more of a personal choice than a performance choice.
[05:32] <explodes> ericb: Wireshark? Maybe not the easiest solution, but with my limited knowledge, that's what I'd use
[05:32] <Sramelyor3301> tnx guys. Got to change now. okay. tnx a lot :)
[05:32] <Sramelyor3301> oh btw
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> good luck
[05:32] <Sramelyor3301> I have only 4 gb ram
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> lubuntu it is
[05:33] <Sramelyor3301> okay. done tnx :)
[05:33] <Synchron> How to fix it?
[05:33] <ericb> explodes: well I cant figure out what is causing the packets, but I'm looking at them in wireshark, and netstat tells me it is dbus that is operating on those port numbers
[05:33] <explodes> if you have the port number you can do uh
[05:34] <cfhowlett> Synchron, if you want lubuntu, CLEAN INSTALL
[05:34] <Kb52> Having run 4-5 different ones on the same machine, I did settle on Zorin as the one I got the best OOB experience. But as for features I do admit ubuntu corners the scene for that. Also for the best support.
[05:34] <explodes> ericb: you can use "lsof" to find out which programs are using which ports, i think that'll get you where you want to go
[05:34] <explodes> ericb: lsof -i :<targetPortNum>
[05:34] <Synchron> Cant lxde & xfce at the same time?
[05:34] <explodes> with the :
[05:35] <cfhowlett> Synchron, yes, but you don't install a secondary OS!  As I said, install one, then install the secondary Desktop Environment
[05:35] <Kb52> Yes that statement is completely off topic.
[05:37] <Kb52> cfhowlett But yes that it can be done, but agree that all of them have their strengths and weaknesses.
[05:38] <Synchron> Or any useful command?
[05:38] <explodes> ericb: did that work?
[05:40] <ericb> explodes: it is not working for the port number these packets are being sent on in wireshark, but i was able to get it to work on port 80
[05:41] <ericb> explodes: is losf for listening ports? because i think this is just sending on these ports
[05:42] <explodes_> ericb: lsof = "ls" open files
[05:42] <explodes_> ls = "list segments"
[05:43] <ericb> explodes: oh
[05:43] <Synchron> I tried sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop,but apt told me there r some packages uninstallable so that lubuntu-desktop cant be installed
[05:43] <explodes> sockets are files, everything is a file
[05:43] <explodes> your mom is a file, on a fat32 partition amirite
[05:43] <cfhowlett> Synchron, did you even read?  I sent you the response.
[05:45] <Kb52> Off topic but of the 4 different Ubuntu based distros of live dvd or cd, that only 2 were not happy with my hardware and for those it was some odd glitch with sound stuck in a thumping left channel oddity when the system wide sound was totally quiet.
[05:46] <Kb52> And no ubuntu itself was not in that category.
[05:48] <veryrandomnick> so
[05:49] <veryrandomnick> bash_horatio cfhowlett  so i got ubuntu running as a try-out
[05:49] <veryrandomnick> how to I diagnose it to make sure it's fit for install? :D
[05:49] <Ben64> ericb: temporary server running 10.04? why
[05:50] <ericb> Ben64: because I set it up a few years ago, and it works perfectly fine :)
[05:51] <Kb52> veryrandomnick. If everything you need to work, does work from the live CD other than perhaps Broadcom Wireless, then I would give it a thumbs up.
[05:51] <Ben64> ericb: its vulnerable right now, and is not going to get any better. upgrade
[05:52] <ericb> Ben64: I appreciate the info. It's running on my local network. Will keep that in mind when I get a better server when I need to use it publicly :)
[05:52] <Ben64> ericb: if you're going to do something, why not do it the right way
[05:52] <Synchron> Thx,I got the lxde
[05:52] <Kb52> I am saying hardware wise that is.
[05:52] <cfhowlett> ericb, if you insist on running a server with and EOL OS, you're gonna have a bad time...
[05:52] <explodes> ericb: what's you ip address bro
[05:53] <ericb> isn't it simple enough to run my server that refuses everything except lan connections on what i already had installed that i can just pop the laptop lid open and use it?
[05:53] <Synchron> It had been "cant locate package lxde"
[05:53] <Synchron> It used to be "cant locate package lxde"
[05:53] <Synchron> Now it's downloading,looks fine
[05:54] <explodes> ericb: it works. its just bad practice is all. if that server ever opens a port you're a high risk
[05:55] <Ben64> ericb: if its for learning or experimenting, you should do and learn things the proper way, and that includes running software that is updated properly
[05:55] <ericb> Ben64: Offline server, build php on it, refuses any ip not on my local network
[05:56] <Ben64> ericb: you're not listening
[05:56] <ericb> Ben64: what vulnerability is there
[05:56] <Ben64> many
[05:56] <ericb> Ben64: such as if im already backdoored on a computer that is on the network? in which case im screwed already
[05:56] <ericb> Ben64: or such as someone can bypass the firewall that refuses any public ip
[05:56] <Ben64> just do things the right way!
[05:57] <Kb52> Except to say that the end user is at the mercy of the developer in any operating system.
[05:57] <ericb> Ben64: okay okay. I will make the next server the most recent version :)
[05:57] <Ben64> upgrade now
[05:57] <Ben64> you've been on this "temporary server" for years now, its not temporary. upgrade
[05:59] <Kb52> I agree that the very first thing to do for ubuntu is to run software updater to the limit and then make a decision of whether to proceed to make it into the specific tool you want it to be crafted to.
[06:01] <Kb52> Kind of the analogy of a car. Econo or Luxury or Sports, they all get you there, but it depends on how you want it to get you there.
[06:01] <ObrienDave> in an econo car you "get there", in a luxury car you "arrive" ;P
[06:02] <[Saint]> in that analogy, those cars are built for a specific purpose - whereas Ubuntu is all encompassing.
[06:02] <[Saint]> I'm not sure it fits very well.
[06:02] <[Saint]> Just sayin'.
[06:03] <Kb52> I sought out luxury because it relaxes my mind, and that I want to refer it to others that are tired of the windoze experience and want something that might hold up and not slow down so easily.
[06:03] <veryrandomnick> i have no idea what to check for, Kb52
[06:04] <veryrandomnick> [Saint] any ideas? to ensure that ubuntu is ready for installation
[06:04] <[Saint]> I...what?
[06:04] <veryrandomnick> So I have ubuntu booted from the DVD
[06:04] <veryrandomnick> I was told not to install it before making sure that it was OK
[06:04] <Kb52> That seems to be what Ubuntu and similar others, are.
[06:04] <veryrandomnick> I am not sure what I should be looing out for
[06:05] <[Saint]> Whoever told you that might not have had a clue what they were saying. It's a trend.
[06:05] <[Saint]> Fire it up, hit the obvious install now icon...follow prompts.
[06:05] <[Saint]> It's really pretty simple.
[06:06] <veryrandomnick> I should install it from a restart, not from the ubuntu itself right
[06:06] <[Saint]> Doesn't matter.
[06:07] <Kb52> Well veryrandomnick. Has anything crashed yet or failed from the Live DVD that you intend to use on a daily basis? Mainly does all the hardware devices on your system, working? Granted the Live DVD is not going to run as fast.
[06:07] <veryrandomnick> you sure? someone said in terms of security it's better the former, restarting
[06:07] <veryrandomnick> Kb52 i have nothing to check for, really.
[06:08] <[Saint]> And, yes, I'm sure - it is perfectly fine to install direct from the LiveCD/DVD/USB
[06:08] <[Saint]> Were it not, one would posit it wouldn't be an option.
[06:10] <Kb52> Well the live DVD is not storing anything long term other than in ram, so it all is gone once the installation completes and they system is restarted. The one key overall is not to interrupt the shutdown and that it does fully shutdown, which is just as important so Yes you really should boot the Live DVD at least 2 times, once as restart and once as shutdown to say that all is ok.
[06:10] <jeffreylevesque> i have a bash script called `bash_loader`.  I'd like this script to run at each ubuntu (14.04) bootup.  Do i simply create `/etc/init/my.conf` (does it have to be a conf file?), with https://bpaste.net/show/73983b56fe34?
[06:10] <veryrandomnick> thank you Kb52
[06:11] <veryrandomnick> I'm not sure how much to leave for windows
[06:11] <[Saint]> Kb52: errr, huh?
[06:11] <veryrandomnick> any recommendaions/ideas?
[06:11] <[Saint]> Kb52: that's unnecessarily convoluted.
[06:12] <[Saint]> There's no need to ensure it shuts down at all.
[06:12] <[Saint]> Are you making this up or something?
[06:12] <Seveas> jeffreylevesque: just call it from /etc/rc.local
[06:13] <bugtraq> ola
[06:13] <jeffreylevesque> is my paste correct if i run it from /etc/init?
[06:13] <[Saint]> I mean, I'm just saying - lets not confuse the issue. Dude pops in a DVD, hits a button, and it tells him what to do exactly.
[06:13] <[Saint]> There's nothing more to it.
[06:15] <veryrandomnick> i think i fucked my computer up
[06:15] <veryrandomnick> because i didn't let it shut down or something
[06:15] <Kb52> Well I would want to be sure ubuntu is shutting your system off and restarting without fail before I chose to install unless this were a repeat installation because of things not going just right. Also if your keeping windows, advise that windows is the primary MBR of the first drive. But that is or would be typical. how much space to offer ubuntu is based on how much you plan to install on it. Space can be resized later on but I would plan b
[06:15] <Kb52> ased on which OS you plan to mainly use.
[06:16] <veryrandomnick> nah it's fine
[06:17] <[Saint]> The easiest method rather than juggling the setup is to just make sure WIndows gets installed last.
[06:17] <veryrandomnick> Kb52 i'm not sure if to keep windnows or not
[06:17] <veryrandomnick> common sense says, keep it, you will have a use for it
[06:17] <veryrandomnick> common sense also says; you don't know if that windows is vulnerable or not
[06:17] <[Saint]> there's virtual machines, though.
[06:17] <veryrandomnick> while checksums may tell you it's valid, do you really know that it is?
[06:18] <[Saint]> veryrandomnick: if you go too far down that rabbit hole, you won't come out - you hit "can you trust what the disk controller is telling you?" and implode and the world ends.
[06:18] <veryrandomnick> [Saint] i did just get hacked (3 days ago) (found out last night)
[06:18] <veryrandomnick> so I think being vigilant is important, and I'm a noob when it comes to these things
[06:19] <veryrandomnick> so while to you it may seem like I'm being overly paranoid, I don't actually know
[06:19] <[Saint]> yeah - I'm just trying to say there's a balance.
[06:19] <[Saint]> just don't be the lowest hanging fruit, which apparently you were.
[06:20] <jeffreylevesque> veryrandomnick: i installed windows, partitioned the disk, then dualbooted with ubuntu, using GRUB (https://github.com/jeff1evesque/leque/#boot-sequence)
[06:20] <veryrandomnick> can I partition the disk during an ubuntu installation?
[06:20] <veryrandomnick> i assume/hope the answer is yes
[06:20] <sjoshi> veryrandomnick: Yes
[06:20] <Kb52> Here lies the secret for those who might go back to the dark side.  Burn a bootable copy of Macrium Reflect. It has a simple tool, in it that will restore any windows installation, should you choose to abandon ubuntu. I say this because Grub (Boot Loader) is going to be installed to the existing windows and so you can revert back easily if you wanted to start over. Then windows 7 and beyond can resize your partitions should you want to start
[06:20] <Kb52> over thats the best way to go.
[06:21] <linocisco> hi all
[06:23] <Kb52> Windows 8 will attempt to take over the first hard drives boot and will wipe out ubuntu so when wanting to dual boot ubuntu and windows your gonna be better off to have windows be the first partition(s) of the drive.
[06:23] <linocisco> I am checking debian and still found alot of active users on IRC. why ubuntu evolved? and why it is based on debian? If I was not wrong , I heard evolution of ubuntu is that lack of community support and maintenace on debian. but now debian is still in use
[06:23] <Seveas> !debian
[06:24] <reallyrandomnick> oops
[06:24] <reallyrandomnick> so um
[06:24] <dik_dak> looking for someone to help materialize my thoughts here... is it possible to do a full tar backup of a live system, send it over to another running system, chroot to it, install a bunch of stuff, pack it back up as a tar and send it back?
[06:25] <linocisco> Seveas, Not Found
[06:25] <linocisco> The requested URL /12.04/installation-guide/i386/what-is-debian.html was not found on this server.
[06:25] <linocisco> Apache/2.2.22 (Ubuntu) Server at help.ubuntu.com Port 80
[06:26] <Seveas> that doesn't entirely surprise me
[06:26] <dik_dak> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/en.i386/ch01s02.html ?
[06:28] <Seveas> thanks dik_dak
[06:29] <Kb52> I am quitting since none of my questions were touched on. So goodnite all and happy ubuntu!
[06:29] <lightflight> Kb52 wait
[06:29] <Kb52> for what?
[06:29] <lightflight> you said that there's a tool to bring windows back. this means that I ...
[06:29] <lightflight> do what?
[06:29] <lightflight> with the install
[06:30] <linocisco> Seveas, thanks
[06:32] <lightflight> do I want to enable LVM option during installation?
[06:33] <Kb52> Well it is part of Macrium Reflect which you would need to be installed to windows (is free software) and then you need to create a recovery media which is in the Tools. So when you then boot that restore cd, one of the options in the restore section is fix windows boot problems. It will allow you to remove ubuntu bootloader (grub) and restore the original windows boot easily so that you can start over.
[06:33] <lightflight> oh, it's something i need to prepare
[06:34] <Kb52> Or you can torrent the ISO which is even faster and easier and simply burn that to a blank cd.
[06:34] <sheer> i don't think i'll keep windows. what do i really need it for?
[06:35] <linocisco> I have nokia E5 and using intenet on laptop via USB cable. I want to share internet to ubuntu server from Nokia E5 via USB cable, what do i do? what to install first?
[06:35] <Kb52> I am sure there are a dozen other ways. Well then if you dont care about windows then no you dont need it at all.
[06:35] <PCatinean> hey guys, I have this under my /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d but it does not apply!
[06:35] <PCatinean> can anyone help?
[06:35] <PCatinean> http://hastebin.com/ebusexated.cmake
[06:36] <sheer> (do I want to enable LVM option?- during ubuntu installation)
[06:36] <sheer> thanks Kb52
[06:36] <linocisco> upon trying desktop, it was fine by adding APN in mobile connection. nothing else. But for server, I dont know what to do
[06:37] <daylight> Hello everyone , could someone guide me with the issue that I am having trouble in building a UI for Ubuntu Touch app which needs both ListItem.Expandable and ListItemWithActions together similar to default Contacts app .
[06:37] <PCatinean> any1?
[06:38] <Kb52> You can actually use transmission to download macrium reflect, burn a blank cd, all from the live ubuntu if you have a second burner, and then it would double as a windows backup and restore tool as well.
[06:38] <sheer> neat
[06:38] <sheer> i can't think of a single thing I need windows for
[06:38] <sheer> except games maybe
[06:38] <sheer> ...
[06:39] <sheer> i just want to get this done
[06:39] <sheer> hm
[06:39] <sheer> i'm midway installing
[06:39] <stangeland> Hello, i am having issues with a usb3 external docking station, and i was reading up on this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2154114 where some people solve the issue by updating kernel to 3.4. Is there any bad sideaffects if i update my kernel?
[06:40] <Kb52> sheer about the ONLY reason I kept windows is simply because my stupid canon scanner isnt supported. But there are some things that have no Linux Equal, such as Camtasia Studio.
[06:40] <sheer> don't need it
[06:40] <sheer> do i want/need LVM?
[06:41] <sheer> logical volume management
[06:41] <Kb52> At some point in life I will be happy to kiss windows goodbye other than having it around to help others in their struggle to keep windows running.
[06:42] <daylight> :)
[06:43] <sheer> kb
[06:43] <sheer> do you have any opinon
[06:43] <sheer> opinion on LVM?
[06:47] <Kb52> I chose NOT to use it, but what it actually does is simply partition the drive in a way to allow you to slice up the drive(s) into partitions. It basically is that it creates a very small partition and sub partitions under that. Advantage being you can rapidly divide up the free space, rather than having to move data around. In analogy to having to eat the whole cake instead of being able to slice it into managable chunks. If you never desire
[06:47] <Kb52>  to do such things then dont bother.
[06:48] <Kb52> It does not have any security benefits however.
[06:49] <jpds_> sheer: LVM's cool, I use it everywhere.
[06:51] <sheer> Kb52 no security benefits? /pass
[06:51] <daylight> Ubuntu Phone UI dev issue ... any help..?
[06:52] <sheer> daylight might be a better chan for that
[06:52] <Kb52> I am still learning all the ins and outs of Ubuntu, but mainly have done all the disasters, of installing. Planning out your install choice is of course the one thing most first timers meet with problem.
[06:53] <sheer> it's just that it's so annoying to undo/redo
[06:53] <Kb52> Everyone who has ever dealt with any of it is destined to learn the hard way.
[06:53] <Kb52> Not just annoying but very time consuming.
[06:54] <daylight> Oh ok..ty
[06:54] <jpds_> sheer: LVM has the nice benefit of letting you resize partitions easier.
[06:55] <sheer> i might get lvm i guess
[06:55] <Kb52> Among the best backup programs by they way (albeit very old) is Redo backup. However of recent I got Acronis 2015 is now the king of full hard drive backup systems.
[06:57] <stangeland> Hello, i am having issues with a usb3 external docking station, and i was reading up on this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2154114 where some people solve the issue by updating kernel to 3.4. Is there any bad sideaffects if i update my kernel?
[06:57] <Kb52> sheer Lvm is as stated in the install program, to make it easier to partition drives and indeed it is.
[06:59] <sheer> Install Now is greyed out...
[06:59] <Kb52> stangeland I have never gotten any side effects, and you can revert back to the old kernel unless you purge them out.
[06:59] <stangeland> Kb52: ok, is it easy to revert?
[07:00] <sheer> oh it's not greyed out now
[07:01] <Kb52> Well that I have no knowledge of, but I know it can be done. I assume the simple and software updater is going to put in the latest stable kernel anyhow.
[07:02] <Kb52> Actually the last kernel would then appear in the Bootloader Screen, allowing you a choice to boot either or.\
[07:05] <Kb52> sheer if your running on the live dvd then things tend to sluggishly run so it may hang on some stuff till the system becomes stable.
[07:05] <sheer> i'm just going through the install now
[07:05] <sheer> should be done soon i think
[07:06] <Kb52> All based on how fast your internet is, I found it seems to take a long time on the language packs.
[07:07] <sheer> actually
[07:07] <sheer> i don't know what to do with my internet
[07:07] <sheer> now that i've been hacked, i need to actually be careful
[07:07] <sheer> the wireless password is very simple and easy to crack
[07:07] <sheer> given how simple it is so
[07:08] <sheer> that means a MITM attack could be easily implemented. maybe less easily if i'm on linux
[07:08] <Kb52> Dunno consult your ISP on how to change it, as all routers are not the same.
[07:08] <Ben64> sheer: so change the password, and thats not really on topic here
[07:09] <Kb52> Well it is for the fact that your here to get suggestions on how to install ubuntu and that is a part of the process.
[07:09] <sheer> i can't
[07:09] <sheer> it isn't my network, i'm only allowed to use it
[07:10] <Kb52> Well then thats not an issue you can resolve.
[07:10] <lisak> hi, anybody know why icon generated for ubuntu from Intellij idea does nothing on click?  https://gist.github.com/l15k4/fc6ad12e95101171eedf
[07:11] <sheer> Kb52 you sure there's nothing I can do?
[07:11] <lisak> is there any way to investigate the reason?
[07:12] <[Saint]> sheer: don't use it.
[07:12] <[Saint]> no one has a gurn to your head I'll bet.
[07:12] <[Saint]> its not really on topic here.
[07:12] <Kb52> Yeah turn on the firwewall.
[07:12] <[Saint]> your insecure wireless isn't Ubuntu's fault.
[07:12] <Kb52> In ubuntu.
[07:13] <sheer> i can run internet off my phone, tethering
[07:14] <Kb52> Well I guess we would have to study how your internet is being compromised to know why. So I assume whatever problem your other OS was presenting is not longer being presented, so problem solved.
[07:16] <[Saint]> though the user habits that lead to the hack probably haven't changed much, if at all.
[07:16] <lisak> anybody using intellij idea ?
[07:16] <sheer> [Saint] come on now
[07:17] <[Saint]> well, have they?
[07:17] <[Saint]> in...a matter of hours?
[07:17] <sheer> i have a warning
[07:17] <Ben64> please take this random hack talk to #ubuntu-offtopic or elsewhere
[07:17] <sheer>  /dev/sda contains GPT signatures, indicating....
[07:17] <Kb52> sheer your not indicating to us if the problem still exists, so it cannot be answered.
[07:18] <sheer> that it has a GPT table. However, it does not have a valid..
[07:18] <sheer> Kb52 it's already been done
[07:18] <sheer> the problem cannot still exist in a fresh installation
[07:18] <sheer> that wouldn't make sense, now would it....
[07:18] <Kb52> Saying its already been done is rather vague.
[07:18] <sheer> it's just coming to terms with it
[07:18] <Ben64> it's also very much not on topic. please stop
[07:19] <sheer> Ben64 i have an on topic issue
[07:19] <Ben64> then talk about that instead
[07:19] <sheer> i did
[07:19] <Ben64> give more details
[07:19] <sheer>  /dev/sda contains GPT signatures indicating that it has a GPT table. However, it has a fake msdos partition table as it should. Perhaps it was corrupted? Is this a GPT partition table?
[07:19] <Ben64> right you said that, i said more details
[07:19] <sheer> i just chose my security key
[07:20] <sheer> i ticked erase free space, i think it was
[07:20] <sheer> then i got this warning message
[07:20] <[Saint]> and, yes, in the real world - hacks that transcend full reinstalls do exist. the disk firmware itself can be hacked persistently, for instance.
[07:20] <[Saint]> but - topic.
[07:21] <sheer> ( a disk's firmware I would imagine requires physical execution of some sort? )
[07:25] <[Saint]> you man physical access to the machine? no - not necessarily. but ...topic.
[07:25] <Kb52> Ok so considering all other options why not simply install it with your network unplugged?
[07:26] <sheer> currently I am stuck at this GPT partition table thing.
[07:26] <sheer> but perhaps I need to listen to [Saint] 's point
[07:26] <sheer> which happens to be offtopic
[07:26] <Ben64> so you chose erase disk and install, then...?
[07:27] <sheer> and chose a security key, ticked erase free spaace, and then it popped up
[07:27] <Ben64> so then choose "something else" and partition yourself
[07:27] <Ben64> and do you really need disk encryption? it just makes everything more difficult
[07:28] <aoo2> i have installed tcl and tcl-dev packages, where can i find the path to libtcl.so and tcl.h
[07:29] <XTpeeps>  aoo2 ，did u intalling hping ?
[07:29] <Kb52> So is the problem that your here to install ubuntu. Decisions on how to install it are for you to decide not others. Encryption is an option you choose not others.
[07:30] <aoo2> i need to find those tcl files to point it to an eggdrop to configure it
[07:32] <Kb52> I am just going to say your not stating that someone right now is attacking you or not, and has taken over the process of partioning and formatting your drive.
[07:32] <stangeland> I want to update my ubuntu 14.04 kernel to 3.4, so i look at the downloads here: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ But which one is it?
[07:33] <Ben64> stangeland: 14.04 already has kernel 3.13
[07:33] <sheer> goodness.
[07:33] <sheer> Kb52 it may be a possibility, i do not know
[07:33] <Kb52> stangeland Your giving us a folder of the ppa and not what is in it.
[07:34] <Ben64> Kb52: that ppa is not so much a ppa as it is not a ppa
[07:34] <k1l_> stangeland: are you sure about 14.04 and the kernel 3.4?
[07:35] <Kb52> So sheer the install must be nearly done by now.
[07:36] <sheer> no no
[07:38] <Kb52> Ben64 so what is in it?
[07:38] <Ben64> Kb52: deb packages of kernels
[07:38] <stangeland> k1l_: hi, yeah so the reason i need this update is because of this issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/994248   I cannot mount external disks on usb3, and the guy in here seems to have fixed that by updating kernel to 3.4
[07:39] <OerHeks> I think he wants 3.14 - http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.14.1-trusty/
[07:39] <Kb52> Ok so is the kernel you want there then it will install from either Software Center or debi manager.
[07:39] <k1l_> stangeland: kernel 3.4 is way old
[07:40] <Ben64> stangeland: you should ask your actual question instead of trying to do something you think might work. 13 is a bigger number than 4
[07:40] <stangeland> k1l_: oh... but right now i am running 3.13 which is even older right?
[07:40] <k1l_> stangeland: no
[07:40] <lisak> are there any logs for double-clicking an icon doing nothing ?
[07:40] <stangeland> oh
[07:40] <k1l_> its not 3.1.3 its 3.13
[07:41] <[Saint]> maybe he does natural sorting :p
[07:41] <k1l_> lisak: maybe .xsession-errors
[07:41] <stangeland> Ben64: ok i am trying to mount an external disk via usb3, but its not being detected, and my dmesg shows: "[80346.032349] xhci_hcd 0000:07:00.0: Abort the command ring, but the xHCI is dead."
[07:41] <MaggieS> ayone here knows what is the different loading ubuntu from usb: or uefi???
[07:42] <Kb52> Is it detected on another computer?
[07:42] <k1l_> stangeland: could be an bios issue. maybe see if you can update that
[07:43] <k1l_> MaggieS: you mean like install or run a live-version from usb?
[07:43] <MaggieS> k1l_: running live
[07:43] <MaggieS> k1l_: both :)
[07:43] <k1l_> MaggieS: can you rephrase?
[07:43] <lisak> k1l_, it's not there... I remember that I had to do something extra with this line in the past https://gist.github.com/l15k4/fc6ad12e95101171eedf#file-jetbrains-idea-ce-desktop-L7
[07:44] <MaggieS> k1l_: like is there a different between those 2 modes or why are they there
[07:44] <lisak> but I don't remember what it was
[07:44] <MaggieS> lisak: are you from poland?
[07:44] <stangeland> k1l_: right i see.... if i want to update bios, how would i go about doing that? Is there an executable i need to download?
[07:44] <lisak> MaggieS, czech
[07:45] <MaggieS> lisak: yea I kinnda know where you were from
[07:45] <k1l_> MaggieS: of course: the live-system one is loaded just into the ram-memory. so the disk is not touched. but that got some limitations like slower system and not beeing able to install or update
[07:46] <k1l_> stangeland: see your manufacturers advices on that. the is different for every hardware
[07:46] <MaggieS> k1l_: I want to know if loading from uefi is faster then running live from usb
[07:47] <k1l_> lisak: you user name is ubuntu and that files exist there and have set +x?
[07:47] <Kb52> Probably a yes vote on that one.
[07:48] <lisak> k1l_, yes
[07:48] <OerHeks> MaggieS, booting from live usb can happen on a UEFI machine too.
[07:49] <k1l_> MaggieS: i dont understand where the difference from usb or uefi comes into play?
[07:49] <lisak> there is a chance that the script may fail (which doesn't if I run it from console), but I dunno how to find out if it failed or not from icon clicking
[07:49] <MaggieS> OerHeks: uefi makes usb faster?
[07:50] <MaggieS> k1l_: about the speed of loadig programs
[07:50] <MaggieS> betnween them
[07:50] <k1l_> MaggieS: uefi doesnt make usb faster
[08:02] <JFlash> hi
[08:07] <JFlash> I'm trying to diagnose why me HDMI port is no longer being detected by  my sistem
[08:07] <JFlash> here's the output of my Xorg.0.log, how can this be of help to me?
[08:07] <JFlash> http://pastie.org/private/r1mnbfn5yhhfv6mzxnjljq
[08:08] <JFlash> I would like to understand what it means. but I don't see timestamps?
[08:08] <diff_> Hi! It seems that I forgot to use purge flag when I removed an old kernel and now there is an rc flags in dpkg. So. How can I get rid of the config files too?
[08:15] <rob> fas
[08:15] <Guest82018> ayy
[08:22] <kitty89> PRIVMSG @#ubuntu :Hi!
[08:23] <kitty89> PRIVMSG #ubuntu :Hi!
[08:23] <kitty89> PRIVMSG #ubuntu :I am alone. Want to chat with some boy?
[08:23] <kitty89> PRIVMSG #ubuntu I am alone. Want to chat with some boy?
[08:23] <sheer> wut
[08:23] <mcphail> kitty89: stop that please
[08:24] <untaken> in Unity, is it possible to move the focus from one monitor to the next? Rather than moving the mouse, I can type ctrl+whatever+right to go to the monitor to the right?
[08:26] <jeeves_moss> are there any RaspberryPi users here?  I can't get my camera module to work
[08:26] <[Saint]> I would posit there's plenty in #raspberrypi
[08:27] <jeeves_moss> thnaks
[08:38] <chotaz`w> is there any app that would allow me to "clean" my ubuntu instalation? much like ccleaner does for windows? something to go along "apt-get autoremove and apt-get clean" to make sure there are no leftovers around?
[08:39] <chotaz`w> s/?/.
[08:39] <sheer> yes
[08:40] <chotaz`w> sheer, and what app would that be?
[08:40] <sheer> i don't know
[08:40] <sheer> try asking in #linux
[08:41] <cynixx3> in #linux they would say use yum autoremove which does not exist on ubunt
[08:41] <cynixx3> ubuntu*
[08:41] <cynixx3> I do not know of an apt-get equivalent.
[08:41] <somsip> !info bleachbit | chotaz`w
[08:42] <[Saint]> wrong c-guy
[08:43] <cynixx3> No thats the right guy. I'm glad to know it too though.
[08:43] <diff_> Well, yes, I managed to solve my problem myself. \o/
[08:45] <k1l_> chotaz`w: all that "magic tune up and clean" programs from windows are really bad habbits
[08:45] <[Saint]> cynixx3: ah - right, yeah, whoops.
[08:45] <chotaz`w> I've used autoremove/autoclean/clean to clean the apt-get bit, and localepurge to remove unnecessary localization files(which I had tons of, for some reason)
[08:46] <[Saint]> leftover system cruft is why I dropped arch from my server.
[08:46] <chotaz`w> k1l_, i understand that, but as I'm still not powerusing linux and 2controlling" everything, I wanna make sure that anything I might've left behind doesn't stay around
[08:46] <k1l_> chotaz`w: look at the users home folder. that is where the configs are stored that dont get touched by apt-get
[08:49] <chotaz`w> k1l_, thanks, I'll take a look.
[09:04] <Kiryx> Hello #ubuntu
[09:05] <Kiryx> How can I remove the library from the system, including docs and dpkg info data ?
[09:05] <Kiryx> I want to remove libboost
[09:05] <Kiryx> I did apt-get remove --purge libboost-dev (and libboost-all-dev)
[09:05] <Kiryx> but "locate libboost" still gives me entries
[09:06] <Kiryx> in /usr/share/doc for instance
[09:10] <tos-1> Kiryx: Update your mlocate database. (I think updatedb.mlocate)
[09:10] <tos-1> Kiryx: Or before you do that, ensure that the database is the problem: See if the files locate lists are really existent.
[09:12] <Kiryx> tos-1: They do exist
[09:13] <notze> hey guys, if i print somehting in ubuntu, will it use cups?
[09:13] <notze> from gnome the scanner dialog
[09:13] <k1l_> Kiryx: "dpkg -l | grep libboost" into a pastebin please
[09:16] <Kiryx> k1l_: https://gist.github.com/kiryx/995fd40a93c7edba8853
[09:17] <tos-1> Kiryx: You only removed the development headers with the above purge command. The library ist still installed.
[09:20] <bobo69> dae le reddit
[09:20] <bobo69> god im bored
[09:22] <dzan> hey, anyone else ran into this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2273846
[09:23] <somsip> dzan: you got a brand new, pre-installed, designed-for-ubuntu laptop and the first thing you did was wipe it and install from an iso?
[09:24] <somsip> dzan: a daily iso at that. So 15.04 beta? Surely I misunderstand...
[09:25] <k1l_> dzan: #ubuntu+1 and the bugtacker on launchpad.net for the development releases
[09:26] <dzan> somsip: mine had windows
[09:26] <dzan> k1l_: ok thanks i'll ask over there
[09:27] <somsip> dzan: ah. Strange purchase given the ubuntu support, but yes - #ubuntu+1 is the place
[09:28] <dzan> somsip: that one was released a month later
[09:29] <dzan> somsip: also you had to pay for the windows license anyway at first
[09:29] <somsip> dzan: fair enough. Unlucky timing by the sound of it #ubunut+1 anyway
[09:30] <dzan> indeed, thanks!
[09:43] <tommy_> hey everyone
[09:50] <comodo_dragon> hi
[09:50] <Aleksejs> Hello! I've installed unity player via pipelight, everything works except there is a problem with non-ascii characters - they are not displayed, and when I write something non-ascii, "?" signs are shown
[10:01] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[10:01] <ANJ7> hey BluesKaj o/
[10:02] <rockworldmi> hi all
[10:03] <LubuntuUser> hello folks, I got a problem with my wifi dongle.  It worked fine until recently. The system still sees it but doesn't connect
[10:03] <rockworldmi> is there any free solution like exo social intranet?
[10:03] <LubuntuUser> I don't know what to do
[10:04] <rockworldmi> LubuntuUser: which version and model?
[10:04] <BluesKaj> hey ANJ7
[10:04] <LubuntuUser> rockworldmi, Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS trusty
[10:05] <ANJ7> BluesKaj: sup?
[10:06] <LubuntuUser> rockworldmi, the wireless dongle is Ralink RT3072
[10:06] <BluesKaj> I'm up early ANJ7, you ?
[10:06] <ANJ7> well, its after-noon here. I'm studying for my exam
[10:06] <JFlash> hi
[10:06] <JFlash> i need to fix HDMI
[10:07] <JFlash> it's listed as disconnected
[10:07] <rockworldmi> LubuntuUser: ok there's blacklist file in etc comment out realtek line
[10:08] <LubuntuUser> rockworldmi, Realtek is  not Ralink
[10:08] <LubuntuUser> does still matter?
[10:08] <rockworldmi> LubuntuUser: realtek
[10:09] <LubuntuUser> pardon my curiosity, I just don't get what has realtek to do with my Ralink dongle...
[10:09] <LubuntuUser> could u explain better?
[10:10] <rockworldmi> LubuntuUser: check if your device is under blacklist file i meant eample of realtek will be there if you google it ....
[10:11] <notze> if i print from gnome printing dialog, what will it o in background, call lp?
[10:12] <rockworldmi> LubuntuUser: this will be helpful http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1353044
[10:13] <LubuntuUser> rockworldmi, could you tell me how to find this backlist?
[10:14] <mv> hello, my package system is broken and the help of other people broke my kernel i think. i was upgrading from ubuntu server 14.04 to 14.10. also grub is broken, now i start from livecd and mount the systeem and chroot to it. can this still be repaired?
[10:15] <cfhowlett> mv, best to reinstall
[10:15] <Get-help123Pls> hello, i think i have a problem. Using sudo apt-get i might have deleted some kernels dat were in use
[10:15] <mv> any advice on reinstalling ubuntu server? can i put it ontop of my old install? and will it keep the settings and other installed programs?
[10:15] <LubuntuUser> thanks rockworldmi
[10:16] <Get-help123Pls> i am running on live cd now but please help me recover the sysytem
[10:16] <rockworldmi> LubuntuUser: np
[10:16] <cfhowlett> mv, clean install and rebuild IMHO.  perhaps #ubuntu-server might have a different iidea
[10:16] <LubuntuUser> rockworldmi,  I just asked here because my wifi dongle worked at perfection until yesterday
[10:16] <mv> thanks il ask them
[10:17] <rockworldmi> any one ? is there any free solution like exo social intranet?
[10:17] <rockworldmi> LubuntuUser: hmm.. then you updates system?
[10:17] <LubuntuUser> rockworldmi, and it is recognised as sees the ESSID name
[10:17] <Get-help123Pls> anybody ? help me pls
[10:18] <cfhowlett> Get-help123Pls, reinstall
[10:18] <Get-help123Pls> ok. do i lose all useraccounts info then?
[10:18] <Get-help123Pls> and files as foto's and such?
[10:19] <LubuntuUser> rockworldmi, sorry, could you explain what you are saying to me a little bit more in detail?
[10:19] <cfhowlett> Get-help123Pls, if your /home is in  a separate partition, you're good.
[10:19] <cfhowlett> !home | Get-help123Pls
[10:19] <LubuntuUser> rockworldmi, system was updated yesterday
[10:19] <LubuntuUser> so, it seems that after this update there is a problem somewhere
[10:19] <Get-help123Pls> i will chek that out thnx
[10:20] <rockworldmi> LubuntuUser: same happend here .. then i opened /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and commented our my realtek driver ..
[10:20] <rockworldmi> so try to do the same to driver " iwlwifi" and reboot it might solve your plroblem
[10:20] <LubuntuUser> ok
[10:21] <LubuntuUser> rockworldmi, could you tell me exactly what to type in my terminal? I am not very acquainted
[10:22] <rockworldmi> LubuntuUser: can you use nano?
[10:22] <rockworldmi> or other text editor?
[10:22] <LubuntuUser> i have gedit
[10:23] <rockworldmi> LubuntuUser: ok open blacklist file in it ... also if possible paste it in pastebin
[10:23] <rockworldmi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[10:25] <LubuntuUser> rockworldmi, it would be quicker to tell me what to look for in the file, as I am connected from another laptop at this moment
[10:25] <LubuntuUser> copy and paste is not a procedure that is going to be quick :D
[10:25] <LubuntuUser> I don't see any realtek in the file
[10:26] <rockworldmi> LubuntuUser: iwlwifi
[10:27] <LubuntuUser> rockworldmi, command not found
[10:27] <LubuntuUser> iwconfig
[10:27] <rockworldmi> LubuntuUser: not command check this name in .config file iwlwifi
[10:27] <LubuntuUser> ok
[10:29] <LubuntuUser> nope rockworldmi there is not any iwlwifi in config
[10:29] <rockworldmi> LubuntuUser: cfg80211 ?
[10:30] <rockworldmi> LubuntuUser: run this [echo "blacklist iwlwifi"  >>  /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf ]
[10:34] <LubuntuUser> rockworldmi, is writing 'blacklist iwlwifi in the file conf
[10:35] <LubuntuUser> what are you trying to do?
[10:35] <LubuntuUser> :D
[10:35] <LubuntuUser> there is not cfg80211
[10:37] <rockworldmi> LubuntuUser: just run above command or read through this forum and see if it solves problem...   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2272407
[10:45] <jackie_> hello
[10:45] <jackie_> I have a problem
[10:45] <jackie_> who can help me
[10:46] <mcphail> jackie_: unless you ask your question we will never know
[10:46] <enchilado> No one
[10:46] <enchilado> Since you didn't say what you need help with
[10:46] <enchilado> :)
[10:46] <Aleksejs> Hello! I've installed unity player via pipelight, everything works except there is a problem with non-ascii characters - they are not displayed, and when I write something non-ascii, "?" signs are shown
[10:46] <jackie_> after installing ubuntu and i am connected to ethernet it says unable to connect
[10:46] <jackie_> in firefox
[10:47] <jackie_> how can I solve this
[10:51] <mcphail> jackie_: please don't PM. I can't help with your problem just now but be patient and someone will help in the channel. Thanks.
[10:52] <Giwrgaras> which is the best music player for ubuntu? any suggestions?
[10:52] <jackie_> ok mcphail
[10:52] <TheNumb> GWild: depends on your requirements.
[10:52] <TheNumb> wee
[10:52] <TheNumb> Giwrgaras: ^
[10:58] <acidwar> Hello
[11:01] <frderi> Good afternoon :)
[11:02] <frderi> I´m in a bit of a pickle with Ubuntu 14.04 Client and an external USB disk
[11:02] <frderi> I plug it in, but the disk doesnt get recognized
[11:03] <frderi> doesnt show up anywhere not even lsscsi and /dev/disk
[11:03] <frderi> the disk works fine under ubuntu 10.04
[11:04] <frderi> its an USB 3.0 disk (western digital mybook)
[11:05] <frderi> any ideas on where to start troubleshooting this issue?
[11:05] <TheNumb> frderi: which file system?
[11:06] <TheNumb> frderi: can you pastebin your dmesg output?
[11:06] <frderi> its ext3 protected by luks
[11:07] <frderi> in 10.04, i had a script querying /dev/mapper/by-path and calling cryptsetup and mount. but by-path doesnt seem to exist anymore
[11:07] <TheNumb> Why don't you use udisksctl to mount it?
[11:08] <frderi> because the mount and unmount process is part of the backup
[11:08] <TheNumb> frderi: can't you mount it by name then?
[11:09] <frderi> http://pastebin.com/cNgtsY3h
[11:11] <frderi> TheNumb : where can i find the name?
[11:16] <frderi> i don´t find any reference i can recognize that points to this disk bein recognized anywhere
[11:16] <acidwar_>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER acidwar_ vrygaueszjht
[11:17] <Fuchs> acidwar_: hi, no spaces in front of the /
[11:17] <frderi> acidwar_ i change that password if i were you ;)
[11:17] <Fuchs> it's not a password
[11:17] <Fuchs> and as per that it also can't be changed, and he doesn't have to worry.
[11:17] <frderi> oh
[11:25] <adac> Could it be that ubuntu has problems with lenove dockingstation and mini HDMI?
[11:25] <adac> mini HDMI on my monitor
[11:26] <acidwar_> :wq
[11:38] <frderi> TheNumb: udisksctl status doesnt list the device, neither does udisksctl dump. The device is connected and is spinning up though.
[11:44] <ernetas> Hey guys. I'm running Postfix 2.11 on Ubuntu 14.04 in a container. I found a bug/improvement in init scripts that is beneficial for running postfix in containers. Where should I report it to - upstream or Ubuntu?
[11:46] <demahum> Is there a way to setup something like wireless access point on one pc and then to connect to it using the other one and then to e.g. send a command to terminal to the host pc without internet access?
[11:46] <EriC^^> demahum: yeah, settings > network > wireless > make hotspot
[11:47] <demahum> EriC^^: And what is the idea, I mean, how to send a terminal command to a host pc?
[11:47] <EriC^^> ssh
[11:47] <EriC^^> get the ip with ip addr
[11:48] <EriC^^> then ssh <user>@<ip> <command>
[11:48] <EriC^^> or just ssh in and do stuff from the shell
[11:48] <demahum> So I can ssh into the host PC using its IP from its own network?
[11:48] <EriC^^> yeah
[11:48] <demahum> EriC^^: That's what I needed. Thanks. :)
[11:48] <EriC^^> from the ip addr you're using to connect to it ( the default route )
[11:48] <EriC^^> no problem :)
[11:49] <jtjh> Hi, I have my Laptop Connected to my TV via HDMI but pulseaudio detects the HDMI as being Unplugged which its not because im using it too view my screen
[11:50] <EriC^^> demahum: you have to install openssh-server on the host though
[11:50] <CJKay> Hi all, I'm having some trouble configuring my network interface for IPv6. I'm getting "IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready" and it's preventing my servers from binding to an IPv6 address, even though the interface  is working by the time I've logged in
[11:50] <BluesKaj> jtjh, use the spdif setting in alsamixer for the gpu/hdmi to detect the digital audio signal
[11:55] <ad-n770> hi
[11:56] <ad-n770> I've booted latest daily vivid image in vmware
[11:56] <ad-n770> I've choose "try it"
[11:56] <ad-n770> it asks me for a username/password
[11:57] <ad-n770> tried ubuntu/(blank) and I'm not getting in
[11:57] <ad-n770> what's the default user password for the live image ?
[11:57] <EriC^^> try ubuntu/ubuntu , there shouldn't be one afaik
[11:58] <ad-n770> tried that one too with no luck
[12:00] <jtjh> BluesKaj all the S/PIDF are all of except  the first one but its bottomed out at 00 and i cant change it or anything
[12:00] <ad-n770> ok, I'll try with the beta later
[12:02] <BluesKaj> jtjh, use the up/down arrow keys to increase/decrease the volume
[12:03] <jtjh> BluesKaj yea thats what i mean i cant on the S/PDIF
[12:04] <BluesKaj> jtjh, in the pcm ctrl , spdif has no vol
[12:06] <user_> Need some assistance... I have installed ubuntu 14.04.2 and had thought I selected encrypt with lvm ... I have 3 hard drives... so I had to choose custom partitions... but it did not encrypt the drives...
[12:06] <user_> How can I get Ubuntu to encrypt all of the drives during install?
[12:06] <user_> or do you have to do it after ?
[12:08] <Fernandooo> hello ive installed 14.04 but it doesnt recognized my win partitions ....i ve googled but :(
[12:08] <Ajacobsson> user_: afaik, ubuntu asks if you want to engage drive encryption during the installation process and since LVM acts as a sublayer under the file system and everything, you can't add it after completing installation.
[12:09] <jtjh> BluesKaj here is a screenshot http://imgur.com/tBv3HpS
[12:09] <EriC^^> Fernandooo: type sudo parted -l and paste it in paste.ubuntu.com
[12:10] <user_> Ajacobsson... ok, thank you for the response.  How can I get it to encrypt all 3 hard drives during the install then?
[12:10] <adac> Could it be that ubuntu has problems with lenovo dockingstation and mini HDMI?
[12:12] <Ajacobsson> user_: "(Ubuntu 12.10 has since introduced LVM support from the installation live CD.)" so all versions of ubuntu after 12.10 is supposed to prompt you during installation asking if you want to enable disk encryption.
[12:13] <BluesKaj> jtjh, use the M key to unmute spdif
[12:13] <user_> Ajacobsson yes it does prompt but only for one hard drive.... I have 3 hard drives where I'd like to partition one drive as /home and one as /storage and one as / ... but have them all encrypted.
[12:14] <user_> but it will only encrypt one drive.... unless I am missing the option to include the other two drives?
[12:17] <jtjh> thanks BlueKaj ill try that but i have to go now ill try too fix it later
[12:21] <veritablej> what program/service needs restarting if my brightness keys make the OSD come up but the screen brightness doesn't actually change?
[12:21] <deadmund> veritablej: Probably the kernel module that is responsible for the screen brightness?
[12:22] <Ajacobsson> user_: I would probably just go through the installation process again and see if I missed something. Couldn't really find any useful info about multiple drives in LVM on google. I've only installed it on single drivers so I don't know either.
[12:22] <veritablej> deadmund  thanks I'll look that up
[12:23] <user_> Ajacobsson, Thank you, I have also googled / Binged... I may be able to encrypt the other two drives after installation.. I'll try that and come back to update on success.
[12:23] <user_> Thanks again.
[12:23] <Ajacobsson> user_: Alright,gl man :)
[12:23] <user_> Fingers Crossed!
[12:27] <Sramelyor3301> how do I get all my hardware specifications from the terminal??
[12:27] <hateball> Sramelyor3301: There are several ways, I like using "inxi"
[12:28] <hateball> Sramelyor3301: "sudo apt-get install inxi && inxi -F"
[12:28] <Sramelyor3301> what's inxi-f for?
[12:28] <hateball> -F(ull)
[12:30] <Sramelyor3301> oh
[12:30] <oak49> hello everyone, I just found a red capital letter notice in gnome disk utility saying 'SELF-TEST FAILED' and when I did self test (short one) the result was 'Disk is OK, one bad sector'..should I replace the disk right now?
[12:30] <hateball> oak49: Yes
[12:30] <hateball> At least I would
[12:30] <Sramelyor3301> Can you suggest a good distro based on the following specifications -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10832582/
[12:32] <deadmund> oak49: what is the reallocated sectors count?
[12:33] <Sramelyor3301> Some1 suggest a good distro based on the following specifications -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10832582/
[12:33] <United123> wow
[12:33] <oak49> deadmund, it says   Value: 0 sectors   Normalized: 100   Threshold: 36   Worst: 100   Type: Pre-Fail   Updates: Online   Assessment: OK
[12:34] <MonkeyDust> Sramelyor3301  ask in ##linux, as this is ubuntu support
[12:34] <United123> someone here can help me with ruby?
[12:34] <deadmund> oak49: Your disk is fine.  Those sectors are used when regular sectors go bad.  If none of them have been used, the disk is very healthy.
[12:35] <deadmund> oak49: I think you failed the test before because of some fluke if you're passing it now (maybe the test had never been ran or some bug occured when it did run leaving you with a "failed" status)
[12:37] <oak49> deadmund, so would it maybe give no bad sectors if I ran it again?
[12:38] <deadmund> oak49: Seems to me that if you have 0 reallocated sectors, you should have 0 bad sectors (but maybe the machine doesn't reallocate until at least n have gone bad or something?)
[12:38] <deadmund> cause every bad sector should cause a reallocation
[12:39] <oak49> deadmund, I re-ran the short test, again one bad sector
[12:39] <oak49> and again 0 count
[12:41] <oak49> anyway, it seems to be a good idea to backup frequently
[12:41] <deadmund> oak49: Weird.  Apparently sometimes the disk may not reallocate:   http://www.sj-vs.net/forcing-a-hard-disk-to-reallocate-bad-sectors/      I wouldn't be worried about it, but if you wanted to try to get someone with my experience to answer, that might not be a bad idea.
[12:41] <deadmund> oak49: You should backup regardless of anything else.
[12:44] <Sramelyor3301> Can someone help me remove openoffice
[12:44] <Sramelyor3301> Its not uninstalling at all
[12:44] <oak49> deadmund, thank you, I think I will go by backing up more frequently, and keeping the pace of the hard drive in sight..
[12:45] <deadmund> oak49: goo move
[12:45] <oak49> deadmund, thank you for your help
[12:45] <Sramelyor3301> I followed the following instructions while installing it -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10832642/ How do I go about uninstalling it
[12:47] <deadmund> Sramelyor3301: run the dpkg -P *.deb (to purge) instead of dpkg -i *.deb  (from your instructions).  Does that make sense?
[12:47] <deadmund> Sramelyor3301: There is also dpkg -r packagename.deb
[12:50] <Sramelyor3301> tnx deadmund. I will try and get back
[12:54] <untaken> in Unity, is it possible to move the focus from one monitor to the next? Rather than moving the mouse, I can type ctrl+whatever+right to go to the monitor to the right?
[12:56] <sennn> GNU HURD 0.6 release
[12:56] <MonkeyDust> untaken  synergy comes to mind
[12:57] <mcphail> sennn: that isn't an Ubuntu support question
[12:57] <sennn> just say that
[12:57] <awk> say what
[12:57] <mcphail> !ot | sennn
[12:58] <awk> !ot | mcphail
[12:58] <awk> I have a Connection from a.a.a.a (router 1)  to b.b.b.b (router 2).. I then have a ipsec inside of that as 1.1.1.1 (router 1) -> 2.2.2.2 (router 2) ... so now I am wanting to get my QoS setup correctly.. should I have 'forward' source 2.2.2.2 (mangle) mark packet 'dc' and 'forward' destination 2.2.2.2 (mangle) mark packet 'dc' (router 1) ... and then have prerouting b.b.b.b (source) and b.b.b.b (destination) mark packet 'dc' ... then have prerouting ToS 38 
[12:59] <Sramelyor3301> btw is the next ubuntu going to be LTS?
[12:59] <jpds_> Sramelyor3301: No, 16.04 is going to be.
[12:59] <Pici> Sramelyor3301: No. LTSes are every 2 years. Next one will be 16.04 in 2016.
[12:59] <MonkeyDust> awk  how is that ubuntu related?
[12:59] <awk> MonkeyDust: well let's say the router is Ubuntu ?
[13:00] <Sramelyor3301> tnx :)
[13:00] <Pici> awk: #netfilter may be the best place to ask, or perhaps ##networking
[13:00] <MonkeyDust> i was going to suggest ##networking too
[13:00] <awk> Pici: 15:00 <@xand> awk: no idea.
[13:00] <awk> that;s from #networking
[13:00] <Pici> awk: no idea from here either then.
[13:01] <awk> hey, thats not fair... don't copy what he said?
[13:09] <Fernandooo> how do i install ubuntu along win with uefi is there any doc ? i cant fint anything accurate from google ...
[13:10] <awk> Pici: can you please answer me, ASAP ?}
[13:10] <Fernandooo> ive got installed win but when i want to install ubuntu i cant see partitions .. not even changing eufi to legacy
[13:10] <cfhowlett> !efi | Fernandooo
[13:10] <Pici> awk: not with anything useful, sorry.  I really don't know anything about those sort of routing setups.
[13:10] <awk> ok, thanks
[13:12] <uniX67> #ubuntu-de
[13:12] <hkrrsx> morning
[13:13] <MonkeyDust> 3.15 pm here
[13:14] <jayjo> I'm trying to retrieve data from an ftp server, but I'm ssh'd into a ubuntu box... can I do ftp through the command line? I only know of filezilla
[13:15] <Fuchs> jayjo: sure, quite a lot of CLI ftp clients
[13:16] <Fuchs> the most obvious one being: ftp   (that is a bit of a pain though, consider lftp)
[13:17] <MonkeyDust> jayjo  tip: use 'screen' command and then ssh, you can then suspend the session, without logging out of ssh
[13:18] <jayjo> is lftp the standard?
[13:22] <neldogz> Hi everyone. I am having trouble with NFS on Ubuntu 14.10 64-bit Server. I can get everything setup and hosts can mount the NFS shares but after rebooting NFS stops working even though it is running. A workaround to this is to restart NFS using: sudo /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server restart after rebooting the server. Anyone run into this?
[13:22] <jellow> neldogz: have you checked you're running the same nfs client, server version ?
[13:23] <neldogz> jellow, yes same NFS client version 4
[13:23] <jellow> neldogz: do you have any log output from the server, client?
[13:24] <neldogz> jellow, I noticed that upon restarting the NFS service ..the following error will come up for any computer that it cannot resolve: exportfs: Failed to resolve host1.office
[13:24] <neldogz> The only way I am able to fix this is to bring that computer online and restart the service
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> neldogz  i guess you have to add nfs shares to /etc/fstab
[13:26] <neldogz> MonkeyDust, the NFS shares are indeed specified in the clients fstab
[13:27] <CJKay> Hi all, I'm having some trouble configuring my network interface for IPv6. I'm getting "IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready" and it's preventing my servers from binding to the static IPv6 address, even though the interface  is working by the time I've logged in
[13:27] <neldogz> It's almost like the NFS server will not serve shares to those clients after the server reboots if the clients are not online
[13:27] <neldogz> I guess I can try to share to a subnet within the export file and see if the same issue occurs
[13:29] <Tekkkz> Hello!
[13:29] <baum> Tekkkz: hi
[13:30] <Tekkkz> I have a problem: Im using two monitors, and if im playing a game (e.g. dota2) in fullscreen mode on monitor 1, my mouse can moved out of it to the second and then i i press there the game gets minimized, how to fix this?
[13:33] <Tekkkz> baum, you have an idea?
[13:33] <baum> Tekkkz: switch to window mode, other than that no idea
[13:34] <baum> Tekkkz: here is what i'm doing though:
[13:35] <Tekkkz> baum, yeah?
[13:35] <baum> Tekkkz: i got windows emulated via KVM - which kinda solves the problem (+ the gaming within linux one)
[13:35] <baum> doubt that this is what you are looking for though
[13:35] <Tekkkz> KVM?
[13:35] <baum> Tekkkz: kernel based virtual machine
[13:36] <neldogz> MonkeyDust, I no longer received the error when using an IP range
[13:36] <neldogz> now for the real test and rebooting everything
[13:36] <neldogz> brb
[13:36] <Foxtrot88> Hi, good morning
[13:36] <Tekkkz> hm i dont want to install such a big change
[13:36] <jayjo> Hmmm.. I'm using lftp now to access an ftp server, but do I have to access this 'interactive' rate?
[13:36] <jayjo> excuse me... interactive mode
[13:36] <jayjo> I want to connect to the ftp server as a script
[13:36] <Foxtrot88> someone knows where can i find a ethernet simulator? I need it for a homework D:
[13:36] <baum> Tekkkz: yep, i thought so
[13:37] <jayjo> and do this daily.. is lftp not the best way to do this?
[13:37] <Tekkkz> baum, and in window mode the window is bigger than my screen cause the ubuntu task bar on the left
[13:37] <Tekkkz> so whats an better solution?
[13:37] <jellow> jayjo: look at lftp man file it is fully scriptable
[13:37] <Foxtrot88> or if exist some for Ubuntu?? D:
[13:37] <baum> Tekkkz: write a script which hides the task-bar once you are playing?
[13:38] <hateball> Tekkkz: A long shot, but someone in #steamlug might know about more about getting things to play nicely with Dota, altho I think most are not running Unity as their DE
[13:38] <baum> Tekkkz: i'm sure there is a better solution though - i just didn't figure it out either
[13:39] <Tekkkz> hm i dont want to make such changes, isnt it possible to play in fullscreen without getting the mouse out with only installing some packages or whatever? but no deep changes
[13:39] <baum> hateball: well the DE shouldn't matter in this case, should it?
[13:40] <Tekkkz> what's DE?
[13:40] <hateball> baum: well, WM then
[13:40] <baum> Tekkkz: desktop enviroment
[13:40] <hateball> and Window Manager
[13:41] <Tekkkz> ahh
[13:41] <Tekkkz> but i want ot use unitty
[13:41] <Tekkkz> and it must be possible to stop mouse from mooving out
[13:41] <baum> hateball: oh, the window manager? thought it's X-server related
[13:43] <hateball> I don't really know how Unity works, I use KDE Plasma which lets me set rules to always keep windows on top etc
[13:43] <hateball> Perhaps there are similar options in Unity, to force an application to remain maximized/fullscreen
[13:43] <hateball> plasma with kwin, that is
[13:44] <funkenstrahlen> hey I run ubuntu 14.04 on my server and tried to install ubuntu-restricted-extras because handbrake-cli says its missing codecs. however apt can not find the package. why?
[13:44] <k1l> hateball: right click on the windowbar and choose: always on top
[13:44] <hateball> k1l: It's Tekkkz having the problems :)
[13:44] <k1l> ah, k
[13:45] <Tekkkz> k1l, whats the window bar?
[13:45] <kostkon> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:45] <baum> hateball: well, i'm not running a DE at all...no idea about the unity options :)
[13:45] <k1l> Tekkkz: but that will not catch the mouse to the first monitor only
[13:45] <funkenstrahlen> kostkon: so how can I install it? apt-get install does not find it
[13:46] <kostkon> funkenstrahlen: enable multiverse
[13:46] <Tekkkz> k1l, so howo can i catch the mouse?
[13:46] <kostkon> repo*
[13:46] <cfhowlett> !restricted | funkenstrahlen
[13:47] <funkenstrahlen> kostkon: thx. worked after enabling multiverse
[13:50] <flipapy> hey, morning, or afternoon etc towherever you are, i have a couple q's about the canonical option in the update 'software & updates' window, it says canonical partners (software by canonical for their partners, and the other one (source code) for their partners as well, what do they do to my os running if i include those updates? what's n them, generally speaking of course,
[13:52] <nkef0> seriously... nvidia doesn't provide a secure download location for their drivers? -.-
[13:53] <k1l> nkef0: use the nvidia driver from the ubuntu repos
[13:54] <nkef0> k1l: I need the 34x drivers for my 750 Ti which are not in the repos as I can tell
[13:54] <k1l> which ubuntu are you running exactly?
[13:54] <nkef0> 14.04
[13:54] <JuJuBee> I need to resize a win7 partition.  Booted from live USB but red exclamation next to partition in gparted.  I made sure I had a clean boot/shutdown of win before live USB
[13:54] <k1l> nkef0: and you get the comedy with demanding secure download for prop. blobs where you dont know whats inside anyway?
[13:55] <popey> k1l: https isnt just for that. also means you're not man-in-the-middled
[13:55] <nkef0> k1l: well... I feel a bit better knowing that the blob hasnt been tampered with during download :p
[13:56] <flipapy> so i asked a question a little while ago, anyone read it by chance?
[13:56] <popey> flipapy: there's no updates in there - only additional software (like skype)
[13:56] <popey> flipapy: so if you installed skype from there, technically there's updates to that at some point
[13:56] <flipapy> thanks popey
[13:56] <robynata> :P
[13:57] <popey> flipapy: but nothing in that repo which conflicts or replaces with what you already have.
[13:57] <k1l> nkef0: yep, no 34x driver in the official repo for 14.04. you could check the edgers ppa
[13:57] <flipapy> ok, sounds god.
[13:57] <flipapy> good
[13:57] <flipapy> yikes, i'd go deaf, padum pum
[13:57] <flipapy> ok thanks :)
[13:58] <k1l> popey: right, but its still: to be sure to get the right "i dont know whats in it" package.
[14:01] <ChunkzZ> hi, odd question. I'm running Ubuntu 14.10. is there a way I can add the left menu button to the top? or bottom? instead of the left?
[14:01] <EriC^^> ChunkzZ: no, you can use cairo-dock and other docks though
[14:02] <MonkeyDust> ChunkzZ  lxde and cfce have the bar on the bottm
[14:02] <MonkeyDust> xfce*
[14:02] <ChunkzZ> EriC^^, so there's no way? MonkeyDust yeah but I like unity :(
[14:03] <nonyab> How can i make transfer my ubuntu on laptop with all my settings and apps to flashdrive for a portability so i can use it any where please kinda like casper xp does in windoz
[14:03] <EriC^^> nonyab: dd the whole drive
[14:03] <nkef0> also: when I shut down using the prop blob, theres a black screen for about 20 seconds then the motherboard buzzer goes off and the poweroff completes using the mobos GPU, any ideas whats going on?
[14:04] <nonyab> I am using the distro lxle
[14:04] <EriC^^> !clonezilla | nonyab
[14:04] <nkef0> (mainly looking to elimnate the delay)
[14:04] <TheNumb> nonyab: I don't think lxle is supported on this channel.
[14:04] <nonyab> where do i get clonezilla
[14:04] <k1l> nonyab: best is to ask the lxle support for their stuff.
[14:05] <EriC^^> !info clonezilla
[14:05] <EriC^^> nonyab: type sudo apt-get install clonezilla
[14:05] <nonyab> Thanx
[14:06] <nonyab> will it boot from the flash drive please
[14:06] <EriC^^> are you using uefi?
[14:06] <jayjo> is filezilla safe software
[14:06] <jayjo> ?
[14:06] <zaggynl> why wouldn't it be?
[14:06] <nonyab> eric^^ what is uefi
[14:07] <nkef0> EriC^^: was that question intended for me?
[14:07] <MonkeyDust> !uefi
[14:07] <jayjo> I have a piece of software installed now called premier opinion, it must've been installed with filezilla
[14:07] <EriC^^> nkef0: no for nonyab
[14:07] <jayjo> has anyone heard of premier opinion?
[14:07] <zaggynl> jayjo: did you install filezilla on windows?
[14:07] <zaggynl> most of the download sites have the filezilla installer riddle with adware
[14:07] <jayjo> I installed it on a mac to connect to my ubuntu server
[14:08] <jayjo> I did custom install from sourceforge
[14:08] <zaggynl> oh nice, mac versions are bundled with crap too now
[14:08] <nonyab> no i use bios in all the machines i would use it on
[14:08] <jayjo> is there any way to tell what was installed? I only know about premieropinion because it's in my status bar
[14:08] <EriC^^> nonyab: ok, it should boot then if it's first in the boot order
[14:09] <nonyab> and they are set to boot from usb
[14:09] <zaggynl> jayjo: why are you asking on #ubuntu, isn't there a mac channel
[14:09] <nonyab> Eric^^ thanks
[14:09] <EriC^^> nonyab: are you using bios in the current machine?
[14:09] <nonyab> Yes i do
[14:09] <EriC^^> ok
[14:09] <zaggynl> there is ninite.com for unbundled windows apps, getmacapps.com looks to be similar for macs
[14:10] <nonyab> Unable to locate package clonezilla
[14:10] <EriC^^> nonyab: you have to enable the universe repo, you should probably consult the lxle channel
[14:10] <zaggynl> reasons why I like linux over windows/osx: zero extra driver installation needed and repositories
[14:10] <nonyab> ok thanks where is LxLE channel please
[14:11] <cfhowlett> !lxle
[14:11] <EriC^^> #lxle maybe?
[14:11] <cfhowlett> nonyab, look around, you can find it
[14:11] <jayjo> I agree, I do all of my statistics on ubuntu, but i still have to use mac to fit into the ecosystem at the office
[14:12] <nonyab> think i got it thanxs all
[14:16] <tyler_> quit
[14:27] <krishna_> shna
[14:29] <acovrig> I have my system joined to a windows domain, the default shell seems to be /bin/false, how do I change this?
[14:34] <MonkeyDust> acovrig  to start: what is the outcome of   env|grep SHELL
[14:35] <acovrig> for my user, it’s /usr/bin/zsh, for every other domain user, getent passwd shows /bin/false
[14:36] <Fuchs> acovrig: sssd or winbind?
[14:36] <acovrig> winbind I think
[14:36] <flipapy> my laptop screen has a dammaged non visible area where the apps bar is, ubtu 14.10 - unity - I kind of need the apps bar on the bottom and for it to be functional on the bottom on my second screen as well, is that a viable possibility?
[14:37] <Fuchs> acovrig: meh, sorry, in this case I can't say much
[14:37] <nkef0> flipapy: you need to install a different dock, unitys default cant be moved afaik
[14:38] <flipapy> is that something developers are working on?
[14:38] <cfhowlett> flipapy, sudo apt-get install xfce4 will get you the xubuntu desktop environment with the bars you discuss.  logout, choose xubuntu session, login
[14:38] <OerHeks> flipapy, no, the unity bar is hardcoded. an other dock is your solution, good thinking nkef0 +1
[14:38] <MonkeyDust> acovrig  what's the outcome of   cat /etc/issue
[14:38] <acovrig> Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS
[14:40] <flipapy> that's good to know thank you cfhowlett
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> acovrig  is this useful? may be a start  http://www.semicomplete.com/articles/ssh-security/#id54098
[14:41] <flipapy> and of course OerHeks   and nkef0
[14:42] <acovrig> MonkeyDust: yea, I want to change it
[14:44] <norc-2> Hi. So today I had a system with an apt that was locked due to missing dependencies. These dependencies could not be installed due to missing inodes.
[14:44] <norc-2> However
[14:45] <norc-2> Almost all inodes were used by kernel headers installed through apt. Since apt was locked I could not purge the old kernels
[14:45] <norc-2> How does one get out of circle?
[14:46] <norc-2> Without manually deleting files that apt is supposed to get rid of.
[14:47] <krishna_> krishna
[14:55] <sudomarize> how do i re-assign the printscreen key in ubuntu?
[14:56] <sudomarize> thinkpad x240
[14:56] <flipapy> i found this, and i get to stay in unity and keep the unity dock on autohide but functional on my second screen as well. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/01/how-to-add-a-dock-to-ubuntu-desktop-plank
[14:56] <sudomarize> 14.04
[14:56] <Fuchs> sudomarize: xmodmap  can do it if you want to actually change the key code it produces
[14:58] <sudomarize> Fuchs: has it not been replaced with xkb?
[14:59] <Fuchs> not as far as I am aware, I am using it here  (KDE, though. Shouldn't matter, though)
[15:00] <sudomarize> Fuchs: sweet, ill check it out
[15:01] <ceraik> hello everyone, I suspect of malware on my system. how can I check it? is there a tool like malwarebytes that I was just suggested? or can I use this tool with ubuntu?
[15:01] <cfhowlett> !virus | ceraik
[15:02] <cfhowlett> ceraik, tl:dr        clamAV and rootkithunter
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> ceraik  a virus? exciting! if you find it, please tell us!
[15:02] <ceraik> cfhowlett, that's what I think, too. but I was strangely rejected by google when I wanted to do search, on grounds of bot suspicion
[15:02] <cfhowlett> ceraik, wait, what???
[15:03] <ceraik> and it was fixed when I restarted my router
[15:03] <cfhowlett> ceraik, ah.  router attacks are a thing ...
[15:03] <ceraik> cfhowlett, can you please tell me more? this 'thing' never happened to me before
[15:03] <ceraik> is my system in danger now?
[15:03] <tos-1> ceraik: dynamic ip address?
[15:04] <cfhowlett> ceraik, probably not, but an open router does invite attack ... and even a router with default login/passwords is less than secure.
[15:04] <tos-1> ceraik: Google most probably rejected you because of your ip address; i suppose.
[15:04] <Trudko> hi guys I read that new Kubuntu will have relative nice power management thanks to new KDE. I am curious if  there is plan for such thing in unity too?
[15:04] <BluesKaj> ceraik, maybe just your router, but i even doubt that
[15:04] <tos-1> ceraik: Maybe you could just ask google. :D
[15:04] <zasek> if you know someone in the free hosting DNS?
[15:05] <mcphail> ceraik: that just happens sometimes. Nothing to do with malware
[15:05] <ceraik> cfhowlett, it is not an open router, if it means without password. I have always had a password
[15:05] <k1l> ceraik: why do you think you got malware installed?
[15:05] <zasek> *DDNS*
[15:05] <ceraik> k1l, I dont know what capabilities such an attack can have
[15:06] <ceraik> I never was exposed to one
[15:06] <ceraik> cfhowlett, how do you mean 'default' password?
[15:06] <k1l> ceraik: that is just a google filter by iplocation when the ip range is reported to be an issue. it doesnt mean you are infected
[15:07] <ceraik> k1l, ip range, so not something particular to my router, but like a geographical group?
[15:08] <OerHeks> ceraik, lots of routers are unpatched with the latest firmware, or have admin hardcoded. sounds like your router is vulnerabel too.
[15:10] <ceraik> OerHeks, back to my question, does it mean that my device can be compromised with such attacks?
[15:10] <OerHeks> ceraik, you said it was.
[15:10] <k1l> ceraik: please to contact google to get to know why you got that captcha thing.
[15:11] <ceraik> OerHeks, no I said I was trying to find out how I could know whether it was
[15:11] <SchrodingersScat> I would search for my router model and see if any of the recent vulnerabilities affected it
[15:11] <ceraik> it is unsettling when you know your router can be hijacked anytime, which makes you pass as a bot
[15:12] <ceraik> specially it is unknown if your actual system can be affected
[15:13] <OerHeks> ceraik, yes you did, as it stopped when you resetted your router.
[15:13] <apt-get> I've got a new computer which I'm fairly certain has UEFI, is it necessary to do anything before dual booting with Ubuntu? I heard UEFI prevents hardware changes, and I changed the hardware without changing UEFI settings, not sure if that matters.
[15:14] <root> holaa
[15:14] <OerHeks> !rootirc | root
[15:14] <root> que taa !!
[15:15] <Solagallardo> asdfas
[15:15] <Solagallardo> sdfgdf
[15:15] <Solagallardo> ghdf
[15:15] <OerHeks> !uefi | apt-get read the wiki about uefi.
[15:17] <Solagallardo> holaa!!
[15:17] <Solagallardo> hay alguien?
[15:17] <compdoc> english
[15:17] <Solagallardo> understand me ?
[15:17] <compdoc> now
[15:17] <Solagallardo> where are you from ?
[15:18] <compdoc> near denver, colorado, where its snowing outside
[15:18] <k1l> Solagallardo: this is the technical ubuntu support channel. use ##chat if you want to chat
[15:18] <Solagallardo> i'm from Spain, Catalonia
[15:19] <compdoc> do you have an ubuntu issue?
[15:20] <nullbyte_> whick kde version will be included in 15.04?
[15:20] <inerkick> Hi . I got Ubuntu Mate 14.04. And I got a Ubuntu Gnome 3.14. Can I use the ISO to replace the Ubuntu Mate without losing data. If yes. how to. Kindly share the link
[15:20] <Solagallardo> issue??
[15:20] <k1l> !info kde vivid
[15:21] <nullbyte_> !info KDE
[15:21] <Solagallardo> i use crunchbang
[15:22] <compdoc> issue=problem
[15:22] <OerHeks> nullbyte_, https://wiki.kubuntu.org/VividVervet/Beta2/Kubuntu
[15:22] <k1l> Solagallardo: crunchbang is not supported in here. and please stop the chit chat in here
[15:22] <Solagallardo> i'm a boss anf you d'ont reconize me !!
[15:22] <compdoc> lol
[15:22] <Solagallardo> good bye ladies!!?
[15:22] <k1l> !away > zz_Thelks-at-wor
[15:24] <Zerkalerka> mc
[15:26] <ceraik> ok..I will go on to do own search on this..thank you all for your hints and information!
[15:33] <taozhijiang> 你好啊
[15:33] <taozhijiang> texit
[15:41] <nkef0> Is there a "trustworthy" PPA with the latest nvidia blobs?
[15:42] <OerHeks> nkef0, that would be xorg edgers
[15:42] <k1l> xorg edgers. but it could be unstable some times
[15:43] <OerHeks> Next version Vivid has that latest driver available AFAIK
[15:43] <nkef0> OerHeks: currently on 14.04, wont update till a new LTS is out
[15:44] <nkef0> k1l: I hope not more unstable than manually installing the blobs(which is what I have been doing since now)
[15:46] <kokoltop> hi guys. I'm not an IT specialist, but I've been using couple of distros these past years. What sets ubuntu apart from the rest?
[15:48] <OerHeks> kokoltop, us, the community.
[15:48] <ioras> hello there, I am installing rootkithunter, and the installation stopped at postfix config. what should I select there?
[15:49] <ioras> also nothing happens if I just press enter
[15:49] <kokoltop> OerHeks: as in number...?
[15:49] <nkef0> ioras: it stopped at the postfix installation menu yes? Choose "Internet Site"
[15:49] <k1l> its easy to use, its mainstream so most software is offered for ubuntu, its free, its designed and not just rushed together, got a huge community, got huge community support,... just try it yourself
[15:50] <OerHeks> kokoltop, what number?
[15:51] <kokoltop> I meant the size :) because the community is big or?
[15:51] <OerHeks> Big as in active.
[15:52] <ioras> nkef0, how can I choose it, I mean, move up and down?
[15:52] <nkef0> ioras: arrows
[15:52] <OerHeks> nkef0, you need postfix if you want a mail when something is detected.
[15:53] <ioras> OerHeks, does it make sense to opt in?
[15:53] <ioras> I can move up-down with arrows or select ok, but how can i select any one of the options?
[15:54] <nkef0> -m conntrack --ctstate RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT in input blocks some commands on ftp ... any ideas whats going on?
[15:54] <ioras> I cant seem to get there
[15:54] <nkef0> ioras: select the option and press enter, or select the option press tab and then enter whichever works
[15:54] <OerHeks> ioras, use space to select?
[15:56] <panda__> hey
[15:56] <ioras> oh, yes, I think with tab it moved to a menu page where the same options are listed
[15:56] <panda__> is anyone online?
[15:57] <ioras> thank you nkef0, OerHeks :)
[15:57] <panda__> I have a question, I cannot log into my ubuntu, its saying my log in and password is wrong, but I checked everything and it seems to be alright, what do I do? I was told to come here from #ubuntoforums
[15:58] <panda__> I cannot get passed the log in page, im on a chromebook.
[15:59] <panda__> WIll someone please help me?! this is the second time today its happened to me after rewashing my computer and everything
[15:59] <OerHeks> panda__, could be a .Xautority issue, see http://askubuntu.com/a/223634
[15:59] <ioria> panda__ well, you can reset passwd
[15:59] <nkef0> "rewashing my computer" that sounds worrying
[16:00] <panda__> how do I get passed the username and password part? does this work if i put the commands in the username part?
[16:00] <nkef0> panda__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[16:01] <OerHeks> panda__, no, read that page please.
[16:01] <ioria> panda__  Caps Lock, faulty keyboard ?
[16:02] <panda__> Checked both, all good.
[16:02] <panda__> num lock is good, caps lock is good, tried to log in with caps lock on and off.
[16:03] <panda__> i am such an idiot i am so sorry for bothering you all
[16:03] <panda__> oh my lord
[16:03] <ioria> panda__  usually reset passwd comes in hand when you forgot the passwd
[16:03] <panda__> alt + cntrl +f3 took me where I needd to go
[16:03] <panda__> I am so sorry guys haha
[16:03] <panda__> Im so new at this.
[16:04] <panda__> But how do I make my sound work on my ibutu as well?
[16:04] <ioria> panda__  a corrupted passwd file is very rare
[16:04] <panda__> How rare?
[16:04] <ioria> panda__  faulty I/O disk error
[16:04] <panda__> It seems like when I went to cntrl+alt+ f2 it wanted my password and login
[16:05] <panda__> then i did all that, and it wasnt taking it
[16:05] <ioria> panda__  well, you can try the link above or this http://linuxconfig.org/ubuntu-14-04-lost-password-recovery
[16:05] <panda__> thanks
[16:06] <OerHeks> it isn't a wrong password or corrupted passwordfile, this Xautority issue is a known issue.
[16:06] <phpcoder> hello
[16:06] <OerHeks> Happened during updates, or wrong way of starting lightdm.
[16:07] <ioria> panda__  try to login via terminal, if you can is Xauthority issue
[16:07] <phpcoder> is there something to change brightness of my laptop? i have a dell inspiron 5700 and it is burning my eyes :D
[16:08] <Upstand> HELP
[16:08] <Upstand> I JUST RM'D MY HOLE HARD DRIVE
[16:08] <Upstand> ALL MY GAY PORN IS GONE
[16:08] <Upstand> I AM FREAKING OUT MAN
[16:08] <MonkeyDust> Upstand wrong channel
[16:08] <phpcoder> :D crazy people
[16:08] <phpcoder> :D
[16:10] <phpcoder> i found a controller brightness
[16:10] <phpcoder> but it is proprietary
[16:10] <phpcoder> something free? :)
[16:10] <sohail-ahmed> In python I can direct the installation files to a certain directory with use of --prefix, do we have any like this with apt or aptitude???
[16:10] <pbx> phpcoder, say more about what you are looking for.  xbacklight is something i use
[16:11] <alexandre_> hello people
[16:11] <Upstand> HELLO ALEXANDRE_
[16:12] <alexandre_> how are you ?
[16:12] <OerHeks> !caps | Upstand
[16:12] <Upstand> I am fine except i lost my gay porn
[16:12] <alexandre_> I can give you some
[16:12] <mindless_chaos> do you need help with ubuntu alexandre_?
[16:12] <Upstand> your a good man alexandre_
[16:12] <mindless_chaos> this is not the room for that....
[16:12] <Upstand> shut up im under stress mindless_chaos
[16:13] <OerHeks> Upstand, rm it again to be sure it is gone. keep this family friendly please.
[16:13] <phpcoder> pbx, there is too much brightness
[16:13] <Upstand> OerHeks Have you even ever had a dick in your mouth before.
[16:13] <phpcoder> pbx, I have to make it a little darker
[16:16] <beachbuddah> hello all - home folder encryption problem...
[16:17] <beachbuddah> borked hdd and lost my passphrase have been able to recover the encrypted folder (s) and they are awaiting unencryption in my /tmp folder but...
[16:17] <beachbuddah> without knowing the orogonal passphrase for the encrypted home folder is there any way to recover the data living in the /tmp folder?
[16:18] <beachbuddah> oroginal should ought to have been original...
[16:18] <nkef0> beachbuddah: /tmp is deleted on reboot
[16:19] <OerHeks> beachbuddah, hard to give help there.
[16:19] <beachbuddah> yes - and apparently so were the folders I copied from /tmp to another folder for safekeeping, so today I went ahead and re-recovered that encrypted data
[16:20] <phpcoder> pbx, is there something?
[16:20] <beachbuddah> the data is still on the drive - I had somehow been able to save it to an external drive
[16:20] <beachbuddah> but I still can't recover it from it's home folder encryption
[16:20] <mcphail> beachbuddah: if you don't know your passphrase you would have been as well recovering /dev/random :(
[16:21] <beachbuddah> I do not know this /dev/random of which you speak, but it sounds like I'm on a fool's errand now
[16:21] <beachbuddah> the buddah is vewy sad today, then
[16:22] <mcphail> beachbuddah: afraid so. Strong encryption is #ubuntu resistant
[16:22] <ioria> beachbuddah, in /home you should have an .encryptfs folder
[16:22] <beachbuddah> lol - well there's something to be said for that then
[16:23] <phpcoder> guys nobody know how to change the brightness on laptop ?
[16:23] <phpcoder> using ubuntui 14.04
[16:23] <ioras> hello again, the rootkit check returned a line like this:       /usr/bin/unhide.rb                                       [ Warning ]
[16:23] <ioras> what would this mean?
[16:23] <beachbuddah> one other isssue - I'd still like to keep the encrypted stuff, against the day that I suddenly recollect the passphrase, but every time I try to copy things today out of the /tmp folder I lose about 15 of 90 folders  - 'can't copy' errors... - any ideas?
[16:24] <helo> why is java 6 installed by default, when java 7 is available?
[16:24] <ioras> also some others like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10833898/
[16:24] <helo> given that java 6 is backward-compatible
[16:24] <helo> err 7
[16:25] <stacks88> awhile back i had downlodaed php-5.4.24.tar.gz from php.net and manually compiled it (./configure;make;make install), but now i want to remove it. make uninstall doesnt seem to work, any ideas? or should i do make install, see where it installs stuff, and then manually just remove those files it installed?
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> !latest | helo here's why
[16:28] <helo> java 7 isn't the latest, java 8 is
[16:32] <phpcoder> nobody use a laptop :D ?
[16:32] <Guest49510> hey guys i have a question. I have had several computers in the past that have lagged with ubuntu on video playback. is this common
[16:32] <Guest49510> ?
[16:32] <phpcoder> every minute that passes my vision decreases
[16:32] <phpcoder> :D
[16:33] <ioras> hello, I got some warnings from rootkit check http://paste.ubuntu.com/10833898/   also this one:   /usr/bin/unhide.rb                                       [ Warning ]
[16:33] <ioras> what could these be hinting at?
[16:34] <MonkeyDust> phpcoder  system settings > brightness & lock ... if that doesnt help, find a button your laptop
[16:34] <mindless_chaos> ioras, unhide.rb will always come up
[16:34] <mindless_chaos> with rkhunter
[16:35] <hkrrsx> ioras: http://sourceforge.net/p/rkhunter/bugs/95/
[16:35] <pxanda> Yeah, I rebooted, it locked me out for good
[16:35] <Guest49510> anyone have video lag issues?
[16:35] <mindless_chaos> rkhunter is designed for servers that don't often change files. rkhunter will alert for any file changes
[16:35] <ioras> oh ok..and the other warnings?
[16:35] <mindless_chaos> unhide alwasy comes up on ubuntu
[16:35] <mindless_chaos>  ill look
[16:36] <phpcoder> MonkeyDust, there is not a button
[16:36] <phpcoder> i see
[16:36] <mindless_chaos> those are normal
[16:37] <mindless_chaos> you will ways get those.
[16:37] <mindless_chaos> its like... blkid.tab or something like that
[16:37] <mindless_chaos> hidden files
[16:37] <mindless_chaos> its nothing
[16:37] <mindless_chaos> you will get that with a fresh install running rkhunter
[16:38] <mindless_chaos> anytime you alter a file that rk hunter checks it will warn you as well.
[16:38] <mindless_chaos> I would be more concerned if it flagged a known rootkit
[16:39] <ghhofstetter> hello, how do I set an external microphone as the default on ubuntu 14.04?
[16:39] <mindless_chaos> If you do not allow ssh to root, and have not set a password for root, it would be very hard for an attacker to set up a root kit, and for some kind of malware to install it without you knowing
[16:40] <mindless_chaos> unless you run infected software with sudo
[16:42] <beachbuddah> ok, so how about this one - is it possible to delineate the output folder when I use ecryptfs-recover-private?
[16:42] <mindless_chaos> RKhunter doesnt do much for machines used for personal, non server. it always gives you warnings like crazy, and you are supposed to set it up to ignore files that will give you false warnings.
[16:42] <ioras> mindless_chaos, if I have not set a password for root, wouldn't it be easy for an attacker?
[16:42] <beachbuddah> This way the data lands where I want it to, rather than suffering through 'can't copy' errors and not knowing what isn't getting where I want it to go?
[16:45] <Kaby> guys hello
[16:45] <phpcoder> MonkeyDust, works
[16:45] <phpcoder> are nvidia drivers good?
[16:45] <nkef0> phpcoder: define good?
[16:45] <Kaby> on windows i used to have hot spot and vpn ip changers , but any softwares for ubuntu 14.10 other then tor ?
[16:46] <beachbuddah> ok well thanks for the info - 'preciate your time
[16:47] <mindless_chaos> ioras, check you pm window
[16:49] <Kaby> on windows i used to have hot spot and vpn ip changers , but any softwares for ubuntu 14.10 other then tor ?
[16:49] <wldcordeiro> Is the notify-osd package supposed to be part of Kubuntu? It just gets stuck on my screen.
[16:49] <wldcordeiro> I changed over to kubuntu-desktop and I'm not sure if every package was updated properly.
[16:50] <phpcoder> nkef0, better than ubuntu graphical drivers :)
[16:50] <grogoreo> hi
[16:50] <phpcoder> ...better than preinstalled drivers nkef0
[16:51] <k1l> phpcoder: ubuntu ships nvidia drivers: a open source one and a prop. nvidia one.
[16:51] <nkef0> phpcoder: yup way better if you dont mind installing the proprietary ones
[16:51] <RobertS> Hi there.
[16:52] <RobertS> When I close my laptop lid and reopen, I'm getting this error message: https://i.imgur.com/21sea0S.jpg
[16:52] <RobertS> Any idea what's wrong and how I can fix it?
[16:52] <mindless_chaos> what error
[16:53] <RobertS> usb 2-4: hub failed to enable device, error -22 \n xhci_hcd 0000:00:14.0: Setup ERROR: setup context command for slot 1
[16:53] <grogoreo> I have a custom folder icon I've put in the Faenza theme for folders like Projects, source etc. When doing gvfs-info on ~/Downloads for example I get the folder-download property which I'm guessing matches to the icon folder-download.png. This property is present for ~/Projects just standard::icon: folder. How is this generated/setup? I've tried xdg-icon-resource install but that doesn't work. Any ideas?
[16:54] <RobertS> mindless_chaos: That's the error message. Please see the imgur link I've posted if you can.
[16:54] <Kaby> on windows i used to have hot spot and vpn ip changers , but any softwares for ubuntu 14.10 other then tor ?
[16:54] <mindless_chaos> sounds like a usb device is not waking up or is giving an error when the laptop is going to sleep and shows when it starts back up
[16:54] <mindless_chaos> what usb devices do you have instaleld?
[16:55] <RobertS> I don't remember installing any. It's a fresh installation of Ubuntu 14.10.
[16:55] <phpcoder> nkef0, pardon preinstalled better?
[16:55] <RobertS> As of now, I'm nor using any USB devices either. None of the ports are being used, mindless_chaos.
[16:55] <mindless_chaos> do you have a card reader?
[16:55] <RobertS> mindless_chaos: Nope.
[16:56] <mindless_chaos> had you plugged in any usb devices like a usb drive or tumb drive?
[16:56] <RobertS> mindless_chaos: Nope
[16:56] <JuJuBee> I can't seem to resize a windows 7 partition with ubuntu live USB.  Any suggestions?
[16:57] <mindless_chaos> what is in your fstab? use past bin
[16:57] <JuJuBee> mindless_chaos: the computer has only win 7
[16:57] <mindless_chaos> sorry jujubee, i was taling to robers
[16:57] <JuJuBee> K
[16:57] <mindless_chaos> roberts
[16:58] <RobertS> mindless_chaos: http://ix.io/hVf
[17:00] <Kaby> on windows i used to have hot spot and vpn ip changers , but any softwares for ubuntu 14.10 other then tor ?
[17:01] <k1l> Kaby: you can use vpn with network manager on ubuntu.
[17:01] <mindless_chaos> Im not sure roberts, I have to run. someone please assist roberts
[17:03] <Kaby> k1l, can you show me how please
[17:03] <k1l> Kaby: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNClient
[17:03] <RobertS> Hi, I just got disconnected. Did anyone post anything while I was away?
[17:04] <RobertS> I mean, anything mentioning my nickname? Sorry :/
[17:04] <Tin_man> no
[17:04] <RobertS> Okay
[17:05] <Tin_man> just that mindless, had to go, and asked someone else if they could assist you
[17:05] <Tin_man> RobertS,  i have logins and offs turned off so i don't know when you left
[17:06] <RobertS> Tin_man: Yeah, I was talking with mindless_chaos about the usb hub problem
[17:06] <VEndix> my network is on
[17:06] <Tin_man> he asked someone else to assist you..
[17:07] <corbin_> moo
[17:11] <ioras> audacity rejects converting some .mp4 files saying they are aac. they are shown as mp4 in folder.
[17:11] <ioras> what can be wrong here?
[17:11] <SchrodingersScat> ioras: what does file and avprobe say?
[17:13] <Tin_man> RobertS, did you install from a DVD or a USB?
[17:14] <juancruz> hi
[17:15] <Tin_man> RobertS: if its a freash install, i'd just try and reinstall it.. assuming you don't have a bunch of data already on the hdd
[17:16] <Kaby> k1l, any other softwares ?
[17:21] <ioras> SchrodingersScat, I am just installing avprobe, I'll tell you when I can view the output
[17:21] <ioras> the file properties also show MPEG-4 video
[17:27] <mohab> hello
[17:28] <mohab> anybody here i need to ask about somethings
[17:28] <Pici> ask away
[17:28] <k1l> Kaby: dont know what you want in detail. using a vpn works with networkmanager
[17:29] <mohab> can i make backup for partition
[17:30] <mohab> primary partition
[17:30] <Kaby> k1l, i need something easy 1 click change ip like most windows softwares can you help me for ubuntu 14.10
[17:30] <Kaby> ?
[17:30] <k1l> Kaby: if you have a vpn you can enable that in network manager. that is quite easy. i dont know other software for that
[17:32] <stacks88> does anyone here still employ /etc/hosts.deny and /etc/hosts.allow ? or i guess what im asking is, is this still considered to be secure?
[17:32] <M1C4HTRON13> is it okay to copy a 40GiB partition with only 12GiB used to a 30GiB unallocated space on another drive?
[17:33] <pbx> M1C4HTRON13, sounds fine. what's your concern?
[17:34] <M1C4HTRON13> pbx, just wanted to make sure it wouldnt expect there to be 40GiB of space
[17:35] <pbx> M1C4HTRON13, i suppose it depends how you're copying it. i'd use dd but i don't set up a lot of new disks
[17:35] <M1C4HTRON13> also if its a system partition will grub find it automatically on the new drive
[17:36] <M1C4HTRON13> or do have to manually setup boot flags?
[17:36] <ioras> SchrodingersScat, I found this command and applied it: avprobe -show_format -show_streams -pretty
[17:36] <ioras> "filename"
[17:36] <ioras> but it said no such file or directory
[17:37] <apawl1> When I run "hostname -f", where does the value printed come from? /etc/hostname is slightly different..
[17:37] <Tekkkz> hi, apt-get purge removes only the packages i give as parameter, their configurations and the packages from the one i gave which aren't used by any other package right?
[17:37] <SchrodingersScat> ioras: need to give it the file path
[17:38] <ioras> ah ok..I'd gone to the folder.
[17:39] <ioras> it worked with filename, but I just realized the folder was the wrong one
[17:40] <ioras> SchrodingersScat, the codec's long name is shown as h.264 / avc / mpeg-4 avc / mpeg-4 part 10
[17:41] <psyrus> hi guys
[17:41] <psyrus> boy i overslept bad
[17:41] <psyrus> no work today i guess.
[17:41] <psyrus> :(
[17:41] <psyrus> is NSA in here?
[17:42] <Jordan_U> Tekkkz: "sudo apt-get remove foo" will remove the package "foo" and any *reverse dependencies* of that package. So if bar depends on foo and you "sudo apt-get remove foo", bar will be removed. If you instead "sudo apt-get remove bar" then only bar will be removed. Using the "purge" command is identical to the remove command except that any packages that are removed will also have their system wide configuration files ...
[17:42] <Jordan_U> ... purged. Does that answer your question?
[17:42] <psyrus> oops
[17:42] <psyrus> wrong chanel
[17:42] <psyrus> part
[17:43] <Kaby> k1l i dont know how to enable it
[17:43] <Kaby> k1l, and what to put in the settings in proxy
[17:44] <IseeFreeMarkets> hgfh
[17:44] <k1l> Kaby: the details you have from your vpn
[17:45] <Guest76230> film
[17:46] <Kaby> k1l, you mean when i right click on wifi icon up and click on vpn connections then configure vpn and what next ?
[17:46] <mohab> can i make a primary partition back up
[17:46] <mohab> how can i do this??
[17:47] <mohab> any one can help please
[17:47] <nutzz> hey guys, this is how I am compiling a source file that uses sockets gcc -Wall showip.c -lsocket. But it give me the following error /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lsocket . What is wrong?
[17:48] <har00nn> Guys use cyberghost
[17:48] <har00nn> Best vpn ever
[17:48] <Mahjongg> Hello, ssh-agent doesn't seem to run on boot on 14.04 is this intended?
[17:49] <k1l> Kaby: then you set in there the details you have from your vpn netowrk you want to use. this is just a client, so you need to have connection details from a vpn server you want to connect to
[17:49] <ubuntu031> afternoon. i was wondering if anyone might be able to reccomend something for me. i am trying to image a ubuntu server so i can do a bare metal restore in case of hardware failure
[17:49] <ubuntu031> anyone have any suggestions
[17:49] <ubuntu031> i am not very firmiliar with ubuntu or linux for that matter
[17:50] <ioria> nutzz add  -lnsl
[17:50] <nutzz> thanks
[17:51] <ioras> SchrodingersScat, thank you. I am leaving now..will try to fix it again later..
[17:51] <har00nn> Hey guys would you recomend me keylloger please
[17:52] <faust> apawl1: it uses the gethostname syscall/function that returns what has been set by the sethostname syscall at startup, so if you manually change the content of /etc/hostname you won't seen any change until reboot or until you manually run sethostname
[17:52] <Roni787> i want to create remote desktop connection to ubuntu server. do i have to install a desktop on the server and if yes which desktop can you recommend me to install?
[17:53] <faust> None
[17:53] <faust> it is a server
[17:53] <faust> why you need a desktop environment on it?
[17:53] <ubuntu031> anyone have recomendations for the backup?
[17:53] <Roni787> to run some applications
[17:54] <apawl1> faust: so this is a totally fresh ubuntu instance on ec2. What's in /etc/hostname is not what's returned by hostname -f .. what am I missing?
[17:54] <apawl1> *As in what's in there by default, not what's entered by me, is not being returned
[17:54] <OerHeks> ubuntu031, use dd or a gui tool like clonezilla ?
[17:55] <faust> Roni787: I think that you should be albe to do everything without GUI
[17:55] <har00nn>  guys any keylogger
[17:55] <k1l> har00nn: we dont support this in here
[17:56] <faust> apawl1: just do "hostname $yourhostname" and it will be fixed
[17:56] <apawl1> faust: to be clear, I'm not trying to change it
[17:57] <apawl1> faust: I'm just trying to figure out where it's reading from, if not /etc/hostname
[17:57] <har00nn> I want to spy on my younger brother that what things he is doing atm
[17:57] <faust> apawl1: It is "in the kernel"
[17:57] <faust> apawl1: usually the value in kernel is set at boot time to the value in /etc/hostname
[17:58] <apawl1> faust: hang on, let me start a totally fresh instance and see if I can verify
[17:59] <har00nn> Is there any website that teach free networking
[18:00] <OerHeks> apawl1, your hostname is set in 2 places, /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname
[18:00] <OerHeks> !hostname
[18:03] <tamnil> hello world!!!
[18:04] <TheNumb> !!!!!
[18:06] <har00nn> Is there Any way to msg your friend by his ip
[18:07] <stacks88> I am trying to install some software, which unfortunately requires php 5.4. My current Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS comes with PHP 5.5.9-1ubuntu4.7 -- anyone know how i can downgrade to php 5.4 ?
[18:07] <faust> har00nn: too much hacking for tonight
[18:08] <ioria> har00nn on the same lan ?
[18:09] <goeranh> yeah that would be easyer
[18:09] <cpined> hello, after upgrading to 14.10 I now have to select 3.16.0-31-generic to get the wifi icon to appear. any ideas please?
[18:10] <goeranh> u can fix it at your settings menu
[18:12] <OerHeks> cpined, strange, current 14.10 kernel is  3.16.0-34-generic #47
[18:12] <snkcld> my lightdm is crashing, and giving me a strack trace that indicates that libc.so.6 is at fault, how can i take the address 0x7f253e19b000 and figure out what func that is?
[18:12] <snkcld> objdump?
[18:13] <ioria> yeah, 23 and 34
[18:13] <snkcld> or, does X / lightdm provide a crash file i can open in gdb?
[18:14] <ioria> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/utopic/+package/linux-image-3.16.0-31-generic
[18:15] <cpined> OerHeks, If I allow that option when I turn on my laptop then the Network Icon is not visible, but when I restart and select **Advanced options for Ubuntu and then select Ubuntu, with Linux 3.16.0-31-generic I get the Network Icon back.
[18:16] <RobertS> Hi
[18:16] <RobertS> Anyone here?
[18:17] <snkcld> actually i think this is unrelated to lightdm, btu more a X server thing
[18:17] <snkcld> does X provide a dump/
[18:17] <snkcld> in a crash?
[18:21] <ioria> cpined : but the wifi is working ?
[18:22] <OerHeks> cpined, can you give more info, what wifi device exactly and what driver?
[18:23] <stacks88> I am trying to install some software, which unfortunately requires php 5.4. My current Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS comes with PHP 5.5.9-1ubuntu4.7 -- anyone know how i can downgrade to php 5.4 ?
[18:24] <aeon-ltd> !downgrading
[18:24] <OerHeks> stack, not, it is foolish to do so.
[18:24] <aeon-ltd> whoops
[18:24] <Kartagis> !pin
[18:25] <Kartagis> stacks88: ^
[18:25] <cpined> OerHeks, I'm using GNOME 14.10.  If I boot up as is and click on the battery or volume icon I see in addition to volume VPN, Location, Battery etc... the Wifi icon does not appear.  But when I select at boot up time Ubuntu, with Linux 3.16.0-31-generic then I also get the wifi icon to appear.  I will boot again to get a clearer description.
[18:25] <stacks88> OerHeks so you are saying that i should just download php 5.4 from source then?
[18:25] <OerHeks> stacks88, if you really need it, compile the source and compile the tools yourself https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5
[18:26] <stacks88> yeah believe me i definitely dont want it, its just required by this lame software
[18:26] <stacks88> that i unfortunately need
[18:26] <stacks88> thanks
[18:26] <faust> !help
[18:27] <faust> that is not the help I was looking for
[18:27] <ioria> stacks88, mysql code ?
[18:27] <OerHeks> stacks88, looking at that page myself, install 12.04 lts ?
[18:28] <luckyuser> live
[18:29] <cpined> OerHeks, selecting Ubuntu, with Linux 3.16.0-31-generic when I boot up allows me to see when clicking on the battery icon a pop-up displaying the volume slider, the brightness slider the Wi-Fi icon, the VPN icon, the Bluetooth icon, the Location icon , the Battery icon and the user icon.  When I boot up with out selecting Ubuntu, with Linux 3.16.0-31-generic I see everything but the Wi-Fi icon.
[18:31] <OerHeks> cpined, can you give more info, what wifi device exactly ? lspci should tell
[18:32] <cpined> OerHeks, Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[18:33] <OerHeks> cpined, do you have a VPN connection programmed to start automatic?
[18:33] <cpined> no
[18:35] <OerHeks> cpined, does this troubleshooting guide give any help ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[18:35] <OerHeks> you need to boot in the newest kernel ofcourse
[18:35] <cpined> OerHeks, I will give it a try.  I will connect over LAN.
[18:36] <ioria> cpined : it'a a wifi problem or an icon problem ?
[18:36] <cpined> ioria, a icon problem.
[18:36] <ioria> cpined : so the wifi isworking ?
[18:37] <cpined> ioria, not when the icon is missing.  So the answer is both.
[18:39] <cpined> too many problems with 14.10...wifi now mplayer.
[18:40] <stacks88> OerHeks on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5 i don't see php 5.4 , is it suppos eto be like that?
[18:40] <flipapy> yay ubuntu trusty 14.04 lts, trusty what i ask... but its great thanks guys
[18:41] <gueriLLaPunK> what antivirus or malware can i use on 12.04 server?
[18:42] <gueriLLaPunK> i installed comodo, but i dont see how to run it via cli
[18:42] <DSMOS> Isn't Comodo a virus?
[18:42] <gueriLLaPunK> https://www.comodo.com/home/internet-security/antivirus-for-linux.php
[18:43] <DSMOS> Oh, okay, wrong comodo
[18:43] <DSMOS> There are viruses from fake comodo people
[18:43] <DSMOS> Look out for them
[18:44] <ioria> cpined : how many kernels do you have in  /boot ?
[18:44] <gueriLLaPunK> anyone have a recommendation for anti virus that works via cli?
[18:45] <cpined> maybe 3-4
[18:45] <hkrrsx> gueriLLaPunK: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ClamAV
[18:46] <gueriLLaPunK> thanks, hkrrsx
[18:46] <cpined> ioria, how can I tell exactly how many I have?
[18:46] <ioria> cpined : i   mean how many vmlinuz ?
[18:47] <cpined> ioria, 31, 33, 46
[18:47] <stacks88> if i follow these instructions http://askubuntu.com/questions/498175/how-to-downgrade-php-from-5-5-9-to-5-4-in-ubuntu-14-04-installed-with-lamp to downgrade my php from ubuntu 14.04 that is 5.5.9 to 5.4, what if in the future i want to go back to the current php, how would i do that? would i just remove the "deb http://php53.dotdeb.org stable all" from sources.list (see link), then re-run
[18:47] <stacks88> apt-get update;apt-cache policy php5, remove the php 5.4 from the system, then just install php again using apt-get install ?
[18:48] <acz32> in thunar bulk renamer, is there a way to have it replace the filenames completely, instead of just appending or prepending date/time stamps to them?
[18:50] <cpined> ioria, when I boot up with out select a previous vmlinux version I can't access the internet.  The wired connection does not work either.
[18:51] <cpined> ioria, is there a way to launch it from the command line?  Is it a network-manager issue?
[18:51] <ioria> cpined : lsmod | grep ath9k
[18:52] <cpined> ioria, that returns nothing
[18:53] <ioria> cpined : lspci | grep Network -A 4
[18:53] <ioria> cpined : lspci -k | grep Network -A 4, sorry
[18:54] <cpined> ioria, what am I looking for?
[18:55] <ioria> cpined : for the kernel module ,if loaded, of Atheros AR9462
[18:55] <cpined> ioria, when i run nm-tool I get the response: disconnected.
[18:56] <ioria> cpined : what does the command say ?
[18:56] <cpined> ioria, I see AR9462 for wireless and AR8162 for Fast Ehternet
[18:57] <ioria> cpined : and this  lspci -k | grep Network -A 4
[18:57] <cpined> ioria, "Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter"
[18:58] <ioria> cpined : ok, try to load the module  sudo modprobe ath9k
[18:58] <cpined> ioria, I get "FATAL: Module ath9k not found."
[19:00] <ioria> cpined : yep,  maybe i'm wrong but i'm afraid you have to recompile it
[19:02] <cpined> ioria, what is that for?
[19:02] <cpined> ioria, would the previous kernal I use to boot with have it?
[19:03] <nn00> how reliable is doing release upgrades?
[19:03] <nn00> aka the chance of the system blowing up
[19:03] <ioria> cpined : try lspci -v and look for Network and find the line : kernel driver in use
[19:03] <cpined> ioria, maybe I should just install 14.10 from scratch?  Reason I use it is because I have a python sript that uses a GTK Flowbox which is available in 14.10
[19:04] <stacks88> noob question: ive got 2 sites with ssl certificates on a virtual machine. im moving these 2 sites to another virtual machine. will i have to regenerate and reissue the ssl certificates on the new virtual machine? Or can i just copy the ssl keys/information, the .key .csr .crt ssl bundle and all that and not have to reissue and resubmit a CSR to the place I bought the ssl certificates
[19:04] <EriC^^> nn00: depends on the ppa's you have
[19:05] <nn00> EriC^^: just the defaults + steam + google
[19:06] <cpined> ioria, Network and Ethernet don't show Kernel
[19:07] <Maimster> Sup peoples...
[19:07] <vincenzo> hi
[19:08] <ioria> cpined : ok, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2197316
[19:10] <zerowaitstate> stacks88: the certs are usually tied to the DNS host name
[19:10] <stacks88> thanks
[19:10] <cpined> ioria, when I use 3.16.0-31-generic or 3.16.0-46-generic then I do see Kernel listed when I run the lspci -v command
[19:10] <Maimster> stacks88: You get your problem worked out?
[19:11] <ioria> cpined : can you load the module and having connection ?
[19:12] <stacks88> which one? lol, im guessing you're talking about yesterday with the root / sudo. yeah, my main thign now is just trying to figure out how to downgrade php to 5.4 on ubuntu 14.04, like i dont wanna have to go and compile it manually and all that shit.
[19:12] <OerHeks> nn00, whatever OS, release upgrade can go wrong, unlikely, but it happens sometimes, make sure you have the newest iso on usb before you start.
[19:12] <stacks88> i found http://askubuntu.com/questions/498175/how-to-downgrade-php-from-5-5-9-to-5-4-in-ubuntu-14-04-installed-with-lamp which is good except
[19:12] <zerowaitstate> stacks88: you want to compile it manually. php packaged may not have been compiled with the stuff you need
[19:12] <zerowaitstate> stacks88: I know it sucks
[19:12] <stacks88> hm ok i guess
[19:13] <zerowaitstate> stacks88: I hate compiling php. with a passion
[19:13] <Maimster> stacks88: Ahh, web programming. Something I know very little about man.
[19:13] <stacks88> I moved away from compiling anything years ago because it became too much work. I very much enjoy being handed down binary/package distribution from ubuntu/apt/etc
[19:13] <stacks88> so i try to avoid it
[19:13] <stacks88> but i guess ill have to
[19:13] <cpined> ioria, I don't have any network issues when I select the 'older' kernals at boot up time.
[19:13] <zerowaitstate> stacks88: get-build-deps is your friend
[19:14] <cpined> ioria, maybe my upgrade was faulty?
[19:14] <stacks88> is that a command?
[19:14] <stacks88> oh you mean apt-get build-dep ?
[19:14] <ioria> cpined : so the problem is only with 33 ?
[19:15] <zerowaitstate> stacks88: ordinarily packaged stuff is great, but PHP is stupid in that everything from database access to image manipulation is linked into the runtime
[19:15] <cpined> ioria, with what ever is the default for 14.10
[19:15] <tahr133991> Hello, should an update in Ubuntu 14-04 require admin privileges?
[19:15] <OerHeks> tahr133991, yes, kernel and some service components need sudo.
[19:15] <stacks88> zerowaitstate so are you saying, when i go to unpack php-5.5.4.tar.gz , when im doing ./configure , its gonna tell me a bunch of shit is missing, and that i should do apt-get build-dep php5 first ,then go back to ./configure on the php 5.5.4 ? or what
[19:16] <dampibig> chi c'è
[19:16] <stacks88> sorry if i sound noob
[19:16] <zerowaitstate> actually hold on. I think I told you the wrong name..stand by
[19:16] <dampibig> parla italiano?
[19:16] <tahr133991> i can't log into Ubuntu anymore since the last update, neither as root or user
[19:16] <OerHeks> !it | dampibig
[19:17] <ioria> cpined : well, i'm now with lubuntu 14.10 and the kernel is 34
[19:17] <cpined> ioria, maybe the issue was with the upgrade?
[19:17] <OerHeks> tahr133991, could be a .Xautority issue, see http://askubuntu.com/a/223634
[19:18] <dampibig> tank you
[19:18] <acz32> can anyone recommend a good bulk renamer that can insert the date&time image was taken as the filename?
[19:19] <tahr133991> strange thing is, i rebooted in recovery mode and resetted both password successfully and still can't login...
[19:19] <OerHeks> tahr133991, see that askubuntu url, if Xauthority is owned by root, you get this loginissue
[19:20] <tahr133991> ok, looking it up now...
[19:22] <sorta> in 12.04, where does the trac package install to? /var/www is empty
[19:23] <trism> sorta: dpkg -L trac;
[19:23] <tahr133991> owner is ftp
[19:23] <gueriLLaPunK> does anyone know this means?
[19:23] <gueriLLaPunK> LibClamAV Warning: fmap_readpage: pread fail: asked for 4077 bytes @ offset 19, got 0
[19:23] <gueriLLaPunK>  /sys/module/xt_multiport/sections/.strtab: Can't read file ERROR
[19:23] <zerowaitstate> stacks88: okay, the program is called auto-apt
[19:24] <OerHeks> tahr133991, chown it to your user, and login again.
[19:24] <hkrrsx> gueriLLaPunK: /join #clamav
[19:24] <tahr133991> ok i will try
[19:24] <gueriLLaPunK> thanks hkrrsx
[19:24] <gueriLLaPunK> again
[19:24] <stacks88> ok cool thx
[19:24] <tahr133991> thanks
[19:24] <hkrrsx> gueriLLaPunK: np
[19:24] <OerHeks> sorta, /var/local/trac is a directory (Trac project) at that host
[19:24] <zerowaitstate> stacks88: also, look into checkinstall for doing the final "make install". checkinstall creates a deb package allowing you to remove the software without manual processes
[19:26] <sorta> OerHeks: i dont see any apache file that references anything from /usr/lib/python[…]/trac
[19:29] <bloop> Hi guys. I installed an uninstalled the youtube webapp but now there's an empty shortcut to it in my dash. right click it says "unity-webapps-runner" and I can't remove it
[19:30] <OerHeks> sorta, sorry, can't help you there, did you take a look at the manual? http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracOnUbuntu
[19:31] <bloop> anyone know how I can remove this dead link in my applications dash
[19:31] <sorta> OerHeks: thanks
[19:32] <no> tes
[19:33] <OerHeks> bloop, it's probably sitting in /usr/share/applications/
[19:33] <OerHeks> sudo rm  /usr/share/applications/<name>.desktop
[19:33] <kodekracker> 8-)
[19:34] <OerHeks> bloop, if you still cannot remove it, logout, and login again and try again.
[19:34] <bloop> I've restarted already
[19:34] <bloop> I don't see it here
[19:35] <nn00> bloop: how about .local/share/applications
[19:35] <nn00> in ~
[19:35] <OerHeks> bloop, i think it is highly unlikely, but maybe it puts an .desktop in you home > ~/.local/share/applications
[19:36] <bloop> looked there as well. it's not there. It's not in the applications section in dash it only shows up in my home dash
[19:36] <bloop> as it is a recent application
[19:36] <bloop> as if it is*
[19:39] <bloop> http://askubuntu.com/questions/86544/how-do-i-delete-the-entire-history-recently-used-items-in-the-dash
[19:39] <bloop> maybe I need this?
[19:40] <bloop> deleting recently-used.xbel
[19:41] <bloop> brb
[19:43] <bloop> nope that didn't work
[19:46] <elux> is there an apt source with bleeding edge versions of packages..? id like to get imagemagick 6.9.1 ..
[19:46] <MonkeyDust> bloop  i'm using this privacy indicator, maybe it's what you want too http://www.webupd8.org/2014/10/unity-privacy-indicator-04-released.html
[19:46] <xangua> !latest | elux
[19:46] <elux> yea i know that.. but hoping there is a source that someone can opt-in for
[19:46] <elux> there are improvements there that i need
[19:47] <xangua> elux: you can also compite the source, yes
[19:47] <elux> that is my last resort, but ya
[19:47] <teward> elux: you could try searching for a PPA, but note we don't support them really
[19:48] <bloop> the activity log manager worked
[19:48] <bloop> I just cleared the recent history and now poof
[19:49] <elux> thanks
[19:54] <Audaces> I'm having issues with mtp
[19:56] <OerHeks> Audaces, lets hear it
[19:58] <Audaces> OerHeks Once I boot my pc it reads my android fine alright, but as soon as my phone reboots or I disconnect the usb and reconnect it ubuntu can't read/wipe it, or it mounts it and its blank
[19:58] <xangua> Audaces: did you unlock your phone after connecting it¿ just a guess
[19:59] <xangua> also hi
[19:59] <Audaces> Yes
[19:59] <Audaces> Heyo
[20:00] <oflocon> whats the topic ?
[20:01] <MonkeyDust> oflocon  type /topic to find out
[20:02] <oflocon> is anybody working on electronics project
[20:02] <drakedouay> Is it possible to install ubuntu to a usb drive without rebooting? I don't understand why I can't be running ubuntu from my hard drive while installing to a usb stick
[20:03] <oflocon> its always possible
[20:03] <drakedouay> but not easy oflocon?
[20:04] <oflocon> without rebooting will be tough /immpossible
[20:04] <drakedouay> hmmmm.m.m....m.mm.m.
[20:04] <drakedouay> ok
[20:04] <bekks> drakedouay: You dont need a reboot for installing Ubuntu, you need a reboot for starting your installed ubuntu.
[20:04] <oflocon> obviously
[20:04] <drakedouay> bekks: that is fine. I just would like to work while it is installing
[20:04] <EriC^^> oflocon: actually using virtualbox he could do it, kind of silly tohugh
[20:04] <bekks> The installation takes 20 minutes :)
[20:04] <oflocon> not possible ,can only work with few programmes
[20:04] <EriC^^> *though
[20:05] <xangua> drakedouay: it works while it's installing
[20:05] <bekks> oflocon: Of course it is possible.
[20:05] <oflocon> working with what
[20:05] <oflocon> virtualbox is different thing
[20:05] <EriC^^> oflocon: you can make a raw disk image of your usb and install to that
[20:06] <bekks> oflocon: I know. Just open a terminal and install ubuntu in there while working with all your other programs.
[20:06] <EriC^^> https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html#rawdisk
[20:06] <oflocon> but it will be same as direct installation using usb
[20:07] <oflocon> got it @ bekkes
[20:07] <jost> Hi! I want to use imapsync - I found several places indicating that it is available as ubuntu package, but I cannot find it with synaptic. So where is it? I'm using an up-to-date XUbuntu 14.10
[20:08] <Bray9082_> Is there any version of grub that works with a touchscreen
[20:08] <CJKay`> Not unless somebody implements a driver for it, but there's little point in that
[20:09] <stephenwade> jost: imapsync is only a package in lucid (10.04) repository
[20:09] <stephenwade> see http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=imapsync
[20:09] <jost> stephenwade: oh, ok... guess I'll have to build it myself then
[20:09] <jost> stephenwade: thanks
[20:10] <OerHeks> Bray9082_, i don't think so.
[20:11] <Bray9082_> OerHeks: Would there be any bootloader that is touch optimized
[20:13] <frank___> ;leave
[20:13] <OerHeks> Bray9082_, not that i know of
[20:13] <Bray9082_> Alright thanks
[20:13] <OerHeks> at least not with a Microsoft HID-Protocol driver
[20:13] <stephenwade> I found a bug in geoip.ubuntu.com (used by Ubuntu Server setup to guess your timezone). Where is the right place to report that?
[20:13] <kostkon> !bugs
[20:14] <stephenwade> it's not part of a specific package though, it's a bug with that lookup service. so I wasn't sure the right way to file a bug about that
[20:18] <ebonics> im trying to follow this guide: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-configure-a-mail-server-using-postfix-dovecot-mysql-and-spamassasin     - i get to the point where i "verify permissions" by doing "ls -ld /var/mail" ,, but the output for "vmail" in the guide is just "mail" for me. i don't really understand what the vmail/mail string is referring to?
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> ebonics  there's also #ubuntu-server
[20:19] <ebonics> ok thanks MonkeyDust
[20:26] <stephenwade> kostkon: according to that link, if the bug isn't with an Ubuntu package, "You should file a bug in that program's bug tracking interface."
[20:26] <stephenwade> this is a bug with the geoip.ubuntu.com lookup service. it's giving me the wrong timezone
[20:26] <stephenwade> any idea where to go to report that?
[20:29] <OerHeks> stephenwade, ubuntu-geoip > https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-geoip/+bugs
[20:30] <ToeSnacks> other than Unity and Mir what are the differences between Ubuntu and Debian?
[20:30] <OerHeks> Mir is not available standard, ToeSnacks
[20:31] <ToeSnacks> OerHeks: it is inteneded to be standard in the future though right?
[20:31] <xangua> ToeSnacks: sounds like a discussion for offtopic, but I like this article http://raphaelhertzog.com/2011/11/17/people-behind-debian-mark-shuttleworth-ubuntus-founder/
[20:31] <OerHeks> ToeSnacks, yes.
[20:32] <ToeSnacks> xangua: thank you, sorry if it's off topic
[20:32] <testerbit> I'm trying to pass the key (CTRL + =) from a mac terminal session to ubuntu and it does not get passed through, how can I pass it through?
[20:32] <MonkeyDust> ToeSnacks  http://www.differencebetween.net/technology/difference-between-ubuntu-vs-debian/
[20:32] <OerHeks> maybe it will be available in Debian too, can't tell.
[20:32] <ToeSnacks> MonkeyDust: thank you
[20:34] <ToeSnacks> xangua: is there an offtopic channel that this question would be better suited to?
[20:34] <xangua> #ubuntu-offtopic :P
[20:35] <MonkeyDust> ToeSnacks  and #ubuntu-discuss
[20:35] <ToeSnacks> thanks
[20:35] <stephenwade> OerHeks: that's not the same thing. Apparently I'm not the only one who's looked at that package
[20:35] <stephenwade> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-geoip/+bug/1178719
[20:36] <stephenwade> This is my problem. And apparently that's not the right place to report it
[20:36] <stephenwade> but no one knows what the right place *is*
[20:37] <MonkeyDust> stephenwade  report it in launchpad and the people there will know what to do with it
[20:37] <OerHeks> stephenwade, maybe tzdata? as it no longer affects ..
[20:38] <stephenwade> MonkeyDust the people there didn't know what to do with it, as that bug has been outstanding for a couple years :/
[20:39] <antivirtel> hello! I have a problem with an USB pendrive, it had a problem with filesystem, but I was tried to restore it with testdisk - unfortunately the process was cancelled/not finished - and now I can't even see in the /dev/sdX, but I can see at least in the lsusb ... can I do with it something?
[20:39] <stephenwade> OerHeks tzdata is just information about timezones. the problem is with that lookup service not telling me the right timezone
[20:39] <bekks> antivirtel: Are you trying to restore vital data from it?
[20:40] <antivirtel> nope bekks, just the device - I just have copies of movies there
[20:40] <antivirtel> but I don't want to copy a half hour, if I can, I'd restore it
[20:45] <stephenwade> Anyone have an idea? somewhere else to ask? a person to email who might know? any idea who runs that service?
[20:47] <jacob_> I need help.
[20:47] <Guest9676> 0-0
[20:47] <OerHeks> stephenwade, maybe someone in #ubuntu-devel or better #ubuntu-bugs
[20:47] <antivirtel> do you have any comments bekks ?
[20:48] <Guest9676> I need help guys, HOw do I add new games to the Games tab in Xubuntu
[20:48] <bekks> antivirtel: I'd just create a new fs on that device.
[20:48] <MonkeyDust> stephenwade  add your name to the most similar bug in launchpad
[20:48] <antivirtel> ok bekks, but I don't have it in /dev/sdX, I can't...
[20:48] <OerHeks> Guest9676, if you install them from softwarecenter, they will appear in games.
[20:48] <Guest9676> I mean like MInecraft OerHeks
[20:48] <akurilin2> Quesiton: I have a 256gb drive and I'd like to clone its contents onto a 1tb drive. Is there anything in linux I could use to make that happen?
[20:48] <bekks> antivirtel: Pull the device, wait 10s, plug it back in.
[20:49] <antivirtel> ok, but I've already tried it bekks
[20:49] <bekks> antivirtel: And what happened in dmesg after you tried it?
[20:49] <MonkeyDust> !clone | akurilin2 start here
[20:50] <OerHeks> Guest9676, old but still valid i guess http://xubuntugeek.blogspot.co.at/2011/12/add-items-to-xfce-applications-menu.html
[20:51] <akurilin2> MonkeyDust: is there anyting that will work on lower level? As in, I'd plug the two HDs into a separate machine or use an in-memory instance of the OS and clone the drives?
[20:52] <OerHeks> akurilin2, dd the partitions, or use a gui tool like clonezilla
[20:52] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get install clonezilla
[20:53] <akurilin2> OerHeks: will dd move all of the bits required for boot as well?
[20:54] <OerHeks> akurilin2, it will move all bits within the partition.
[20:54] <oakqa> hello, how can I bring back into life the gnupg keys that have expired? currently they all appear with strikethrough (love this term)
[20:54] <antivirtel> bekks I can see it now in /dev but just for a while, but testdisk seems to be hanging... here is dmesg's related part: http://paste2.org/zWpjsMLt
[20:55] <bekks> antivirtel: Can you pastebin the entire dmesg please?
[20:56] <antivirtel> ok, here you go bekks http://paste2.org/LdcFWB3X
[20:57] <Pici> stephenwade: Most geoip services uses the maxmind geoip databases, using them along with your hostname (from your whois) results in America/Chicago, if thats not correct then you should take it up with maxmind, then probably submit a ticket to Ubuntu's RT to have the databases on geoip.ubuntu.com updated.
[20:57] <bekks> antivirtel: That device is just dead.
[20:57] <antivirtel> bekks I was thought that - I can return as I remember, since there is warranty
[20:57] <Pici> stephenwade: see https://www.maxmind.com/en/correction
[20:57] <antivirtel> thank you for the help :) good night
[21:02] <Pici> stephenwade: stepping away from the computer, pm me if you need any help with that and I'll try to get back to you later.
[21:07] <Lugal> Hello
[21:07] <Lugal> I need help
[21:08] <Nightwalkerkg> Can i update Gnome version on 14.10 from 3.12.2 to 3.14 ?
[21:08] <Lugal> I installed lubuntu on a external HD
[21:08] <Lugal> and the grub installation on it failed
[21:09] <OerHeks> Nightwalkerkg, it is not advised to do so. next version Vivid 15.04 will have 3.14
[21:09] <Lugal> when I run the command "grub-install /dev/sdb" I get this error: grub-install: warning: Attempting to install GRUB to a disk with multiple partition labels.  This is not supported yet..
[21:09] <Lugal> so what can I do?
[21:10] <OerHeks> Lugal, you need to specify /dev/sdb1 or an other sdbX
[21:10] <Nightwalkerkg> OerHeks, i don't understand that. If i already have Ubuntu GNOME why do i have to update my entire OS to newer version just to get a newer version DE ?
[21:10] <sheap> could someone help me with this partman recipe? http://paste.debian.net/plain/167196 when it installs I get 10.2 GB root and 244.7 GB root, when I want the root partition to take up all available space and the swap to use 4 GB
[21:10] <OerHeks> Nightwalkerkg, dependencies, i think.
[21:10] <OerHeks> Nightwalkerkg, wait 7 more days please.
[21:11] <Lugal>  OerHeks, when sda1... then I get the same error
[21:11] <OerHeks> !grub
[21:11] <Nightwalkerkg> OerHeks, will it be possible to update to 15.04 without losing my data ?
[21:11] <OerHeks> Lugal, i can't tell what partition you should give
[21:12] <oakqa> hello, how can I bring back into life the gnupg keys that have expired?
[21:12] <OerHeks> Nightwalkerkg, always backup before upgrading.
[21:12] <k1l> Nightwalkerkg: yes, but for murphys law its better to have a backup :)
[21:12] <oakqa> or can I?
[21:12] <Lugal> there is only 1 partition on the drive , OerHeks
[21:12] <OerHeks> Nightwalkerkg, if you don't backup, your data is not important.
[21:12] <Lugal> ok, the error is a bit dofferent
[21:12] <Nightwalkerkg> k1l, it's not a problem to have a backup, the problem is losing 40+ GB of source code.
[21:12] <MonkeyDust> Lugal  hte more reason you should have a backup
[21:12] <Lugal> nstalling for i386-pc platform.
[21:12] <Lugal> grub-install: warning: File system `ext2' doesn't support embedding.
[21:12] <Lugal> grub-install: warning: Embedding is not possible.  GRUB can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists.  However, blocklists are UNRELIABLE and their use is discouraged..
[21:13] <k1l> Nightwalkerkg: if you have a backup, its not losing :)
[21:14] <Lugal> Well, I can boot this ubuntu from the GRUB that is on /dev/sda,    but I also want be able to boot it from a grub on itself^^
[21:14] <Nightwalkerkg> Will any Ubuntu GNOME ship with 3.16 ?
[21:14] <OerHeks> Lugal, one partition? ubuntu makes more than one partition, when installing.
[21:15] <k1l> Nightwalkerkg: the ubuntu and gnome release dates dont match. so it will be not standard in 15.04
[21:15] <Lugal> nope, I used the manual option and made only one for root
[21:15] <Nightwalkerkg> So i'll probably have to wait for 16.x version. :P
[21:15] <Lugal> so on the page from the link its "grub-instrall /dev/XXX"  in  my case XXX=sdb
[21:15] <Lugal> its not working
[21:15] <akurilin2> Is mv supposed to be dramatically slower than something like rsync for moving files locally ?
[21:16] <OerHeks> Lugal, now i understand yes, install ubuntu again, now the right way.
[21:16] <kino> quit
[21:16] <Nightwalkerkg> *15.10
[21:16] <Lugal> loooool
[21:16] <Lugal> why is it the wrong way?
[21:16] <Lugal> ah
[21:17] <k1l> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-15-04-Almost-Got-GTK-plus-3-16-But-Too-Many-Things-Needed-Fixing-473642.shtml
[21:17] <Lugal> you mean, if I install it with more than 1 partition, it will work?
[21:17] <k1l> @ the user who left anyway :/
[21:17] <Lugal> lets say for example   sdb1= /   and sdb2= /boot   ? like this?
[21:17] <Ben64> its unlikely you need a /boot
[21:18] <Lugal> and /boot must be ext2?
[21:18] <bekks> No.
[21:19] <mateo> hola
[21:20] <OerHeks> Lugal, see http://askubuntu.com/a/327452
[21:38] <halt2> Hi all, if i boot up my laptop without network, (ubuntu with gnome) then the network manager does not load at all so can't connect even after it booted up, any suggestion ?
[21:39] <brayy90820> Can someone help me permanently mount a nas on ubuntu 14.10
[21:41] <Lugal> is the /boot partition = MBR? or where is MBR? and where is GRUB?
[21:42] <MonkeyDust> brayy90820  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1567345
[21:42] <k1l> no its not mbr. mbr is the really first part of a disk. that got nothing to do with partitions
[21:42] <aaas> so i put custom entries in /etc/crontab with single commands NOT calls to external scripts, and these commands, unlike crontab -e, don't seem to run.  Am I missing something here? Is this the expected behavior?
[21:42] <Ben64> Lugal: why are you messing with it at all? let ubuntu handle partitioning and stuff, you likely do not even need a /boot
[21:43] <Lugal> lol, before I got told that I need a /boot
[21:43] <Ben64> Lugal: no you weren't
[21:43] <Lugal> my problem is that Grub doesnt get intsalled in the MBR
[21:43] <k1l> why you need a /boot?
[21:43] <MonkeyDust> Lugal  WHO TOLD YOU THAT?
[21:43] <MonkeyDust> oops
[21:44] <OerHeks> ...
[21:44] <Lugal> ah sorry, misread before
[21:45] <Lugal> ok, than I really dont understand. I select  grub to go in /dev/sdb and I make one /-partition on it. why it doesnt get installed on it
[21:46] <ryan_46> halt2, grub
[21:47] <ryan_46> error sorry halt2
[21:47] <ryan_46> hal
[21:47] <Lugal> "Attempting to install GRUB to a disk with multiple partition labels.  This is not supported yet"   ... what does "disk with multiple partition labels" mean, and how to make something else from it that works? :D
[21:48] <tnkhanh> hi
[21:48]  * tnkhanh waves hands
[21:49] <tnkhanh_> hi
[21:53] <MonkeyDust> Lugal  not sure what you are doind or what is happening, but instead of repairing things, try starting over
[21:53] <MonkeyDust> doing*
[21:53] <andre_pl> I have 3 of the 4 disks that used to comprise a raid 5 array, and I've booted an ubuntu server live disk in the machine, how can I go about reconstructing the array so that I can transfer the data to a new machine?
[21:55] <MonkeyDust> andre_pl  you too, there's also #ubuntu-server
[21:55] <andre_pl> MonkeyDust: thx
[22:04] <tnkhanh> hi
[22:07] <atlasloewenherz> hi this may sounds a bit trivial but i can not find what's making my root partion full, du -sh / gives me this: https://gist.github.com/atlasloewenherz/828e2eb3928937f6b45f any suggestion is apreciated
[22:12] <zerowaitstate> atlasloewenherz: what filesystem is on / ?
[22:13] <atlasloewenherz> zerowaitstate: ext3
[22:14] <chezzo_> You guys trying to get cata running on a phone?
[22:14] <tastybuds> Hi. Is there a version of Ubuntu that is light on resources?
[22:14] <Funkwarrior>  /load .xchat2/budus.so
[22:15] <k1l> !lubuntu | tastybuds
[22:15] <Tin_man> tastybuds, and xubuntu
[22:15] <tastybuds> thanks k1l
[22:15] <k1l> chezzo_: what is cata? and what phone?
[22:16] <tastybuds> Is it also a smaller image to download?
[22:16] <tastybuds> It would be nice to have the packages of Ubuntu in a small package for my old laptop..
[22:16] <chezzo_> OH MAN WRONG FORUM.
[22:16] <zerowaitstate> atlasloewenherz: um...what kind of server is this?
[22:16] <k1l> atlasloewenherz: use ncdu to get to know what eats up the space
[22:17] <sockeplastN> what command do I use to get out of root after used "sudo -i" ?
[22:17] <k1l> sockeplastN: "exit"
[22:17] <atlasloewenherz> k1l: let me try that thanks
[22:17] <sockeplastN> thanx
[22:17] <chezzo_> http://en.cataclysmdda.com I did the graphics in the tiles version.
[22:17] <zerowaitstate> ncdu is nice
[22:20] <atlasloewenherz> k1l: zerowaitstate ncdu does show almost the same info i still can not find out what use the disk: https://gist.github.com/atlasloewenherz/828e2eb3928937f6b45f
[22:20] <MSc> how can i play a f4v format file in ubuntu ? i used vlc but it didn't play it please help me
[22:21] <zerowaitstate> atlasloewenherz: is there a difference between disk usage and apparent size?
[22:21] <zerowaitstate> as reported in ncdu?
[22:21] <sockeplastN> After installing the lm-sensors package, running  "service kmod start" and checked my sensors, it said fan 1 = 0 and i opend up my laptop and found out my cpu fan still didnt work. now, it's fixed, don't know what I did, but I can't controle the rpm. someone who can help me controle the rpm?
[22:21] <k1l> atlasloewenherz: what sort of setup is this? a vps?
[22:21] <lucas___> hi
[22:21] <zerowaitstate> k1l: yeah I wondered about that too. possibly containerized?
[22:21] <atlasloewenherz> k1l: this is a xen dom0 server
[22:22] <zerowaitstate> atlasloewenherz: for grins, I'm curious about the output of tune2fs -l /dev/mapper/vg0-root
[22:22] <lucas___> algum brzuka ai?
[22:24] <atlasloewenherz> zerowaitstate: tune2fs: https://gist.github.com/atlasloewenherz/e57fad74f8b543439890
[22:26] <Loshki> !pt | lucas___
[22:29] <nonya> I have installed Ubuntu on a flash drive and want to transfer settings and such to it from one on desktop PC with same Ubuntu can it be done and when i boot new flash drive will it be able to show my desktop and such settings that was on desktop?
[22:30] <zerowaitstate> atlasloewenherz: what's the size of /var/patch
[22:30] <atlasloewenherz> zerowaitstate: there is no /var/patch
[22:30] <neldogz> I installed Ubuntu 14.04 32-bit LTS on a laptop but found the mouse touch pad is having difficulty tracking touch. Can anything be done to improve its functionality?
[22:33] <zerowaitstate> atlasloewenherz: okay, i think i know the deal
[22:33] <zerowaitstate> atlasloewenherz: there is a huge file, or a huge set of files, currently open by a process
[22:33] <zerowaitstate> du does not measure the size of currently open and locked files
[22:33] <zerowaitstate> lsof will show open files
[22:34] <nonya> So when i use flash drive on any computer it will work how to do this
[22:34] <nonya> please
[22:35] <atlasloewenherz> zerowaitstate: could it be the LVM stack causing the problem ? as my host machine does mount lv for each virtual machine
[22:35] <zerowaitstate> atlasloewenherz: most likely it is a log file that hasn't been rotated
[22:38] <Flugz> atlasloewenherz: check the size of /var/cache/apt/archives/
[22:39] <atlasloewenherz> Flugz: 200MB
[22:40] <atlasloewenherz> zerowaitstate: actually there are a couple of log files actively open shown via lsof | grep log but i can not find out which one is the culprit/guilty
[22:42] <k1l> atlasloewenherz: well, look at the sizes in logifle folder "ls -al /var/log"
[22:43] <sockeplastN> I'm trying to install Heroes of newearth, and I'm getting a little frustrated. I use ls -al /to/my/directory/HoNClient-3.6.4.1-2.sh and I have given it permission to run file as program.
[22:43] <zerowaitstate> atlasloewenherz: most likely it is a log file that hasn't been rotated
[22:43] <sockeplastN> but it wont start
[22:43] <zerowaitstate> lsof -s | awk '$5 == "REG"' | sort -n -r -k 7,7 | head -n 50
[22:45] <atlasloewenherz> zerowaitstate: https://gist.github.com/atlasloewenherz/cc560786d8012be248d6
[22:46] <zerowaitstate> there we go
[22:47] <zerowaitstate> check /var/lib/xen/save
[22:47] <zerowaitstate> the db, ci, www, tm files are open but deleted
[22:47] <zerowaitstate> command is x1, PID's are 2325, 2174, 2699, 2475
[22:48] <k1l> nice spot
[22:49] <zerowaitstate> atlasloewenherz: xen host probably needs a reboot
[22:49] <atlasloewenherz> mhhh your 100% right but i wonder why it gets here ( in this situation )
[22:50] <zerowaitstate> what is the status of those PID's?
[22:53] <zerowaitstate> atlasloewenherz: once a file is deleted, the application holding the file descriptor must close the descriptor in order for the storage to actually be released to the filesystem
[22:53] <zerowaitstate> atlasloewenherz: it is either a bug or a hung process
[22:55] <atlasloewenherz> zerowaitstate: you know what's funny, i was talking on #xen about this suspecting xen ( xl ) to be behind this and we came up to the point where we excluded xen :)
[22:56] <atlasloewenherz> zerowaitstate: im tyring to collect more info on this phenomenon and i will try to send my finding with your tips to the xen mailing list
[22:57] <zerowaitstate> http://www.akadia.com/services/lsof_quickstart.txt ... look at item (3.a)
[22:58] <MSc> vlc : Depends: vlc-nox (= 3.0.0~~git20150319+r59816+33~ubuntu14.04.1) but it is not going to be installed
[22:59] <zerowaitstate> the reason those files do not show up in du is because they have been "unlinked" i.e., they are no longer attached to a directory, but the corresponding data blocks haven't been released because the process still has a file descriptor open on the file
[23:12] <godd> Could someone please help me get my ubuntu 14 to read my external hard drive?
[23:15] <Mr-Potter> godd: Firstly have you plugged in the data AND power leads?
[23:17] <atlasloewenherz> zerowaitstate: this should help them to track it down https://gist.github.com/atlasloewenherz/0dd9f5e15fbb9db3850e
[23:18] <chezzo_> So spawn static, all the zombies are generated at once, but you gotta butcher corpses so they don't come back.
[23:18] <chezzo_> Is that correct? Do towns generate zombies?
[23:19] <chezzo_> Swamps generate nonsense no matter the mode, yes? Same with craters, triffid groves, bee hives...
[23:40] <godd> Mr-potter: my hard drive is usb and only has one line
[23:40] <Mr-Potter> oh OK maybe you're using the wrong cable?
[23:42] <godd> Mr-Potter: it's the right cable, if I run *ls /dev/ | grep sdif* it shows up as "sdb" and "sdb1"
[23:49] <CatosSword> If anyone would help me with some SWAP questions, I'd be thankful
[23:50] <gryzor> if you got to actually ask a question, someone might answer
[23:50] <CatosSword> well, they say a picture is worth a thousand words, so: http://i.imgur.com/hHZJiqA.png
[23:51] <zerowaitstate> godd: what does lsblk show?
[23:52] <godd> zerowaitstate: NAME   MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT
[23:52] <godd> sda      8:0    0 111.8G  0 disk
[23:52] <godd> ├─sda1   8:1    0 110.8G  0 part /
[23:52] <godd> ├─sda2   8:2    0     1K  0 part
[23:52] <godd> └─sda5   8:5    0  1012M  0 part [SWAP]
[23:52] <godd> sdb      8:16   0 465.8G  0 disk
[23:52] <teward> godd: use a pastebin
[23:53] <CatosSword> http://i.imgur.com/u34I0l4.png                 = lsblk]
[23:54] <godd> zerowaitstate: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10835808/
[23:55] <CatosSword> It's weird because my SWAP is sda10, but it's not labeled as such [/swap] under lsblk, it's just unlabeled with the correct diskspace
[23:56] <zerowaitstate> godd: sudo blkid /dev/sdb1
[23:56] <zerowaitstate> godd: what is the filesystem type listed?
[23:57] <CatosSword> /dev/sdb1: LABEL="My Book" UUID="F21843B31843759F" TYPE="ntfs"
[23:57] <zerowaitstate> am I talking to two people here or something?
[23:58] <godd> zerowaitstate: nothing happens when I enter sudo blkid /dev/sdb1
[23:58] <CatosSword> Probably... memory  & diskspace issues... I'm splitting... peace
[23:58] <zerowaitstate> godd: sudo parted /dev/sdb -l
[23:58] <Lui_> Good day/night all. :) Just popping in to see if this install is getting through. Could someone be kind enough to shout back to help me w/this? Ty.