[05:43] <ovidiu-florin__> hello, anyone here?
[05:44] <ovidiu-florin__> Last night's update on vivid, broke quassel
[05:45] <darthanubis> Broke? I'm using it now
[05:46] <darthanubis> Core, client, and droid
[06:06] <ovidiu-florin__> client, doesn't start anymore
[06:06] <ovidiu-florin__> it starts and there's no content to the window
[06:06] <ovidiu-florin__> and it stays like that
[06:08] <ovidiu-florin__> $ quasselclient 
[06:08] <ovidiu-florin__> QCoreApplication::arguments: Please instantiate the QApplication object first
[06:08] <ovidiu-florin__> "Theme tree: (Breeze)"
[06:08] <ovidiu-florin__> No DockManager available
[06:09] <ovidiu-florin__> and that's it
[07:05] <soee> good morning
[08:23] <soee> hhm
[08:24] <soee> The problem cannot be reported:The problem happened with the program /usr/bin/kdeinit5 which changed since the crash occurred.
[08:26] <vipw> soee: that bot seems very silent
[08:26] <vipw> soee: does he leave private messages?
[08:27] <soee> vipw: kubotu ?
[08:27] <vipw> yup
[08:27] <soee> i dont think so
[08:27] <soee> but devs use bouncers so the can read teh logs and have access to messages send to them
[08:27] <vipw> did he say something? :)
[08:28] <soee> who ?
[08:28] <vipw> maybe, he just didn't
[08:28] <vipw> kubotu: 
[08:28] <soee> kubotu: hi
[08:28] <kubotu> re soee :)
[08:28] <soee> it has some commands
[08:28] <vipw> i mean, did he say something about isos to test ;-)
[08:29] <sitter> queuebot talks about isos
[08:29] <soee> well someone has to call teh testers via kubotu
[08:29] <sitter> ah
[08:30] <sitter> isn't that ubottu
[08:36] <soee> vipw: usualy when isos are ready to test, Riddell uses this bot to call testers to grb the images and o testcases
[08:37] <vipw> ok, sooner or later, i'll know
[08:55] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:18] <Riddell> soee: there's images up onw
[09:18] <Riddell> now
[09:18]  * Riddell away today
[12:24] <sitter> anyone around who has a recent daily ISO and can test something real quick?
[12:24] <sitter> need a screenshot of the first ubiquity screen
[12:46] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:57] <mparillo> sitter: Does ksnapshot load on the first ubiquity screen?
[13:09] <sitter> no
[13:09] <sitter> you'd have to run the ISO in a vbox
[13:09] <sitter> or some other virtual machine
[13:09] <sitter> and then snapshot that
[13:10] <sitter> actually
[13:10] <sitter> mparillo: you could just tell me if you can minimize the window
[13:13] <mparillo> The first window where you get the choice between try and install?
[13:16] <mparillo> I have created the VM, and am starting it
[13:19] <mparillo> sitter: Yes, I can minimize the Try /Install window. I do not see it go to a panel ... it just seems to disappear, but that could be because the size of my virtual screen is small. I can restore the Try / Install window by <alt> <tab>
[13:26] <sitter> mparillo: thanks
[13:27] <sitter> Riddell: ^ I don't think that was the case with kwin4
[13:27] <sitter> seems a bit meh
[14:12] <BluesKaj> is dolphin going remain on plasma 4 on the 15.04 official release like it is now ?
[14:12] <yofel> qt4, yes
[14:14] <BluesKaj> bummer , so i'm goingto have different colours on my apps because systemsettings4 has no way of being setup to the same as systemsetttings5
[14:35] <rdieter> BluesKaj: fyi, systemsettings5 relevant theme changes should propogate to kde4's kdeglobals (that's the theory anyway), do colors not work then?
[14:36] <claydoh> odd, BluesKaj my dolphin's colors match when I change thingsw
[14:36]  * rdieter tested, works for me.  used systemsettings5 to change colors to 'breeze dark', run dolphin... and it's dark
[14:51] <kfunk> yep. that should work just fine
[14:51] <BluesKaj> claydoh, no such luck here, dolphin is using the default systemseting4 colour which is an off brown whereas everything under the plasma 5 control is a marble blue
[15:05] <BluesKaj> even the titlbar and the toolbar fonts are still small on this large screen (as root in systemsettings5) set the font as ubuntu 9 or some such and i need dejavu sans 15 to make the them readable , the text inside the files are dejavu sans 15 
[15:14] <BluesKaj> ts I gues
[15:15] <BluesKaj> so there's some kind of mess here between the Qts
[15:21] <rdieter> BluesKaj: there was a prior release of plasma5 (early 5.2.0?) that had a bug that kdeglobals could get corrupted, which prevented subsequent config changes from taking effect.  your symptoms sound like ^^ may be happening.  
[15:24] <BluesKaj> rdieter, well this is a beta 2 totally clean install , no conf files left over in /home etc from previous installs
[15:24] <BluesKaj> only one partition on this one , just /
[15:25] <BluesKaj> bbl 
[15:34] <claydoh> BluesKaj: "even the titlbar and the toolbar fonts are still small on this large screen (as root in systemsettings5) "
[15:35] <claydoh> running system settings as root might be the cause, here perhaps?
[15:39] <sitter> thy shalt not run gui apps as root
[15:51] <BluesKaj> sitter otherwise when I edit a file as roo then the fonts aren't readable 
[15:51] <BluesKaj> root
[15:51] <BluesKaj> like the sours.list for example 
[15:52] <BluesKaj> sources.list..
[15:57] <BluesKaj> odd that kate runs under plasma5 as user , but as root it's plasma4
[15:57] <BluesKaj> diffrent permissions , different colour settings seems to be the problem here
[15:58] <BluesKaj> same goes for the titlebar and toolbar fonts
[16:01] <BluesKaj> anyway we'll see what happens next thurs
[16:03] <BluesKaj> BBL
[19:16] <Riddell> bug 1445383
[19:16] <Riddell> yofel: ^^
[19:21] <KDDA> not again!
[19:34] <vip> :)
[19:34] <yofel> Riddell: I know, didn't have time to follow up on that
[19:35] <yofel> KDDA: not again, it's the damn same innodb crash hitting different people
[19:36] <KDDA> I spent ages getting akonadi up and running again
[19:36]  * yofel switched to mariadb -.-
[19:37] <KDDA> cheat!
[20:59] <ahoneybun> 14.04 is running amazing on my dad's computer now :)
[20:59] <ahoneybun> *amazingly
[21:02] <soee_> -.-
[21:36]  * genii makes more coffee 
[21:52] <ovidiu-florin> so something in the last update broke my quassel
[21:52] <ovidiu-florin> I had to purge it and start over
[21:52] <ovidiu-florin> it works now :D
[21:56] <valorie> so perhaps something in old configs?
[21:57] <valorie> all ok with konvi....
[22:35] <lordievader> My Vivid netboot just keeps working :)
[22:35] <lordievader> Must say I don't use it for much. Just a bit of browsing and konsole'ing.
[22:35] <valorie> by netboot, you mean mini-iso + Kubuntu-desktop?
[22:36] <lordievader> No, by netboot I mean PXE + NFS root.
[22:36] <valorie> I don't know what that is
[22:37] <lordievader> valorie: http://www.serenux.com/2010/05/howto-setup-your-own-pxe-boot-server-using-ubuntu-server/
[22:38] <lordievader> It comes down to having no harddrive in the computer and having the rootfs on some server.
[22:39] <valorie> ahhhh, the law and freedom folks have talked about a setup like tat
[22:39] <valorie> that'
[22:39] <valorie> so if laptops are confiscated, you still have your data
[22:41] <valorie> and I guess that is unfortunately common for human rights/social justice workers
[22:41] <valorie> American citizens do not have constitutional rights at the borders, our courts now say
[22:42] <valorie> :(
[22:43] <lordievader> I wouldn't do nfs booting over the internet. But for a local lan it is a nice way of giving live to a machine in which there is no hard drive.
[22:44] <valorie> these folks advocated a "virtual hard drive"
[22:44] <valorie> a few years ago
[22:44] <valorie> I'm not sure what the thinking is these days
[22:44] <lordievader> This is not a virtual hard drive thing.
[22:45] <lordievader> Wonder what they ment with virtual hard drive...
[22:46] <valorie> here is one description: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2465848/virtual-hard-drives-the-it-pro-trick-that-lets-you-back-up-your-data-for-free.html
[22:46] <valorie> sounds like just a container, which I guess could reside anywhere
[22:47] <valorie> amazon servers etc.
[22:47] <lordievader> Hmm, if network storage counts as 'virtual hard drive'...
[22:48] <valorie> it's almost back to the dumb terminal days
[22:48] <lordievader> Ah, those vhd's Windows answer to using Logical Volumes for VM's.
[22:51] <valorie> it would be scary unless you really trusted the cloud provider
[22:51] <valorie> which is where kolab and companies like that come in, I guess
[22:51] <valorie> spideroak is another