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sillymooseeHi, Kubuntu 15.04 question, I can't seem to get my panel clock to 24hr time. Seems system settings Region page changes have made this difficult. Is there a file I can manually edit?00:31
tuv0ksillymoosee: I want military time as weill00:35
sillymooseetuv0k: No luck eh? Guess it wasn't a priority so far to expose custom date via gui...00:36
tuv0kno, we can only at present change the zone :(00:37
tuv0kseems silly00:37
tuv0kit is always the first thing I change00:37
voidwalkerhey i cant find wine 1.7.40 in wine team ppa. what can i do?00:38
mparillosillymoosee: This is the bug I raised: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34098200:45
ubottuKDE bug 340982 in kcm_formats "I cannot set my short date to YYYY-MM-DD, nor my time to HH:MM" [Wishlist,Confirmed]00:45
mparillotuv0k: You can vote for it also ^^^00:46
tuv0knice00:49
sillymooseemparillo: Thanks for link, that is amazingly LAME. If there's on regression area bound to make users mad, its regional customizations.00:50
sillymooseeI forsee a lot of user complaints and questions on release hitting forums and IRC...00:50
GunnDawgWhen does 15.04 release?00:51
tuv0kGunnDawg: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseSchedule01:02
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sillymooseetuv0k: don't forget to vote on bug, I gave my 2 cents. Off to restore my 14.04 image, I think KDE 5 may need some more work.01:54
darthanubisi did01:54
darthanubisyou gave more than .0201:54
darthanubisyeah, can't logout, babloo_file is a monster01:55
GunnDawgHow can I go about changing the "Favorites" and "Recently Used" icons under the K Menu?03:43
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AristideHellow :)06:56
AristideI have a problem :06:57
AristideI have disable WiFi from Plasma5 but I can't enable it06:57
AristideWhen I check "WiFi" checkbox, the list is empty06:58
GunnDawgI had network issues with 14.04 but have resolved them. Scared to switch to 15.04 now :(06:58
AristideI'm on 15.04 ^^06:59
AristideHello GunnDawg :)06:59
GunnDawgI know you are, you said Plasma5, I assumed you were using 15.0407:00
AristideWut N07:00
AristideWut ? * WiFi work oO'07:00
GunnDawgI'm quite happy with my 14.04 setup :)07:00
AristideGunnDawg: But I love Plasma5 / KDE Frameworks 507:01
GunnDawgAristide: I'd wait until its more stable if you're not willing to put up with possible bugs and the process in which to report those and fix them07:02
AristideYes but I like KDE Frameworks 507:04
GunnDawgI havent used it07:04
GunnDawgI'm happy with what I've got :)07:04
soeegood morning07:05
GunnDawgmorning07:05
AristideGunnDawg: ^^ KDE 4 ?07:08
GunnDawgAristide: yes07:08
GunnDawgAristide: 4.13.307:09
AristideOh :)07:09
Aristide5.9 for Frameworks :D07:09
GunnDawgI prefer a more stable environment07:10
AristideOw07:10
AristideOpen a LDLC's computer don't break warranty07:10
AristideYEAH !07:10
GunnDawgI alsu use this for my gaming machine. I need it to be stable and smooth07:11
AristideGunnDawg: I use for work, play, write, create music ... :307:13
GunnDawgcool07:14
xennex81Aristide: you can use nmcli to troubleshoot a bit07:38
xennex81nmcli d wifi rescan07:38
xennex81nmcli d wifi list07:38
AristideOk thank'07:39
valorieI've heard another report of wifi problems07:39
Aristidexennex81: But its work now :)07:39
Aristidexennex81: Reboot computer has been enought ^ '07:39
xennex81:) nice07:39
xennex81Even in 14.10 I've had to sometimes shut off network manager and do manual wpa_supplicant because I could not get it to work07:40
xennex81NM is buggy07:40
xennex81has nothing to do with 15.04....07:40
xennex81I have two root partitions now on my system :). One runs Ubuntu Gnome still (14 GB) the other is 20GB and has Kubuntu 15.04 on it07:41
xennex81I'm thinking to put 14.10 back on the first07:42
xennex81I think I even dreamt of Kubuntu tonight07:42
sizziffhello all07:53
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xennex81hi sizziff08:30
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gearhey08:51
lordievaderGood morning.08:55
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xennex81morning (afternoon by now) (time goes fast) (or we do)11:07
Ryoma721ciao12:08
Ryoma721hi12:21
hateballHello Ryoma721, do you have a question?12:24
kde_newbiehi guys! how can i know from the command line if bluetooth is enabled?12:39
manolo_ciao12:39
manolo_scusate ma per avere la lista e scarica come si fa?12:40
romberHi guys, do I need to install additional package on kubuntu 14.0412:44
romberto connect ipsec vpn?12:44
BluesKajHey folks12:46
lordievaderromber: From what I remember, yes.12:47
romberwell, it's a bad question. My question is.. May I connect ipsec with IKE from Connection editor?12:48
lordievaderIf you install the apropiate packages yes.12:49
romberlordievader, Is there a tutorial? I saw there is a option "OpenSwan" in Connection editor, but I only know the phase1/2 algo and domain12:58
lordievaderErr, what kind of ipsec do you use?12:59
romberOh..sorry if I ask a stupid question, I have only very few  about vpn. I have a tutorial to connect ipsec VPN for iOS, server/passwd/username/group name and key13:05
lordievaderromber: Server implementations matter, IPSec is implemented differently by different daemons.13:06
rombers/few/few knowledge13:07
lordievaderWhile it is a standard, and so things should interoperate, it is easier to use one 'brand' of IPsec. For example Strongswan.13:07
rombermay I connect it if I have those information?13:10
lordievaderromber: What kind of ipsec do you use?13:11
romberlordievader, Umm, sorry but I don't know.. how to know it ?13:13
lordievaderromber: Do you administer the ipsec server?13:15
romberNo13:16
lordievaderHmm. I guess that you then need to use the good old method of trial and error.13:17
BluesKajromber, is this a free vpn server?13:17
lordievaderStart with OpenSwan or StrongSwan I suppose.13:17
romberBluesKaj, I'm not sure but I think no.13:18
romberlordievader, kubuntu 14.04 have build in openswan? because I saw a openswan option in connection editor13:20
lordievaderIt's in the strongswan-nm package.13:21
BluesKajromber, do yuou have ipsec-utilities installed?13:25
romberlordievader, OK, I will try it first :) thanks13:25
romberBluesKaj. yes I have13:26
BluesKajdoes the server use l2tp-ipsec protocol?13:29
romberumm not sure, if I can connect it via iPad does it means yes?13:31
lordievaderNot necessarily, IOS (7/8) support IKEv2, IKEv1, l2tp for VPN.13:33
BluesKajok , nevermind the tunneling depends on the server protocol13:36
romberhow ipad could got those information automatically?13:41
lordievaderromber: What information? Most you have to specify yourself.13:43
BluesKajthis isn't ipad support , so I don't know13:43
MichaelTiebeslhey hello14:01
BluesKajhi MichaelTiebesl14:02
MichaelTiebesli see to enjoy this channel it also can be with freenode14:03
MichaelTiebesli just installed kubuntu 15.04 and saw this channel was first connected with kubuntu irc14:03
BluesKajMichaelTiebesl, it's on the freenode server14:03
MichaelTiebeslBluesKaj: great then i will stay here14:04
MichaelTiebeslBluesKaj: kubuntu 15.04 is nice14:04
BluesKajyes, kubuntu 15.04 support is at #ubuntu+1 chat14:05
BluesKajif you need it , MichaelTiebesl14:05
MichaelTiebeslim also connected to ubuntu14:06
MichaelTiebeslBluesKaj: cheers14:07
romberBluesKaj and lordievader, thanks I can connect the VPN server now :). It's a cisco server and seams that only need to install network-manager-vpnc and vpnc14:23
lordievaderromber: Nice, nice.14:23
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Ryoma721hi16:08
BluesKajhi Ryoma72116:08
Ryoma721my problem i think ahci....16:09
Ryoma721after dist-upgrade, restart black screen16:12
Ryoma721o freeze desktop (15.04)16:12
Ryoma721ahci to ide16:13
Ryoma721now works16:13
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Ryoma721thakns for kubuntu16:30
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bob420cannot ecrypt my home after kubuntu won't start no more. got y17:13
bob420although i know the mount-pw.. i only see fnek files. (none of the inet tutorial worked out).. help?17:13
bob420when i use ecryptfs-recover-private only fnek files/directories are shown.17:17
bob420when i use ecryptfs-mount-private... i can activate use filename encryption.. and it shows me a signature.. that also never works..17:19
bob420join#ecrptfs17:20
jcjordyn120hey17:35
drwjcjordyn120: hi17:36
jcjordyn120hello17:41
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wldcordeiroIs notify-osd of any use to KDE?20:05
wldcordeiroIt's got some problems for me and I'm wondering if it's okay to remove it.20:05
EtriaphIt seems that a lot of software depends upon it.20:06
Etriaphhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD20:06
wldcordeiroEtriaph: It keeps getting stuck for me.20:06
wldcordeiroI don't know why but it'll just stay indefinitely20:06
wldcordeiroand it's been driving me insane because then I need to go and kill it.20:06
EtriaphWhich version of Kubuntu?20:07
wldcordeiroI'm on the 15.04 beta20:07
EtriaphLog a bug.20:07
wldcordeiroLink?20:07
wldcordeiroIs it just on launchpad?20:08
EtriaphOn Launchpad.20:08
EtriaphI'm on a fully up to date 15.04 Beta 2 and I don't get that issue, FYI.20:09
wldcordeiroI'm on a fully up to date one as well but I installed from Ubuntu with `apt-get install kubuntu-desktop` and then ran `do-release-update -d`20:10
wldcordeiroSo it might be an issue with some configurations.20:10
EtriaphPotentially.20:10
EtriaphOh...20:11
EtriaphSo you're running Ubuntu.20:11
EtriaphI don't know how base packaging of both together might affect your user experience.20:11
EtriaphI'm KDE only myself.20:11
wldcordeiroI ran apt-get remove for ubuntu-desktop20:12
wldcordeiroto try and remove ubuntu itself.20:12
wldcordeiroI like KDE a lot more now than I've tried it.20:12
wldcordeiroI don't know if I want to try a clean install I have a lot of development stuff on the computer that I don't want to set up again. :/20:12
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wldcordeiros/than/that20:14
EtriaphWhat kind of environment do you work in?20:15
EtriaphLanguages and such.20:15
wldcordeiroPython, JS, Java, Ruby, Rust20:15
EtriaphI work with Rails, I use Kate for everything pretty much.  If I'm doing any Java work I use Netbeans.20:16
Guest33574Hello all.....i have an old SmartMedia card reader Lexar Media model GS-UFD-20SA-TP and lsusb reads it as Bus 002 Device 003: ID 07cc:0004 Carry Computer Eng., Co., Ltd SM/CF/PCMCIA Card Reader it is not automounting and its FAT16 im pretty sure USB 1.0 or 1.1 or something how do i mount this?20:16
wldcordeiroEtriaph: What's Kate?20:17
wldcordeiroI do Java in the sense that I work with Android in Android Studio.20:17
willwork4fooHi all - anyone know of a workaround / fix for sddm going black on boot? Kubuntu 14.10 here with KDE Plasma 5.2 installed20:17
EtriaphKate = KDE Advanced Text Editor20:18
willwork4fooEtriaph: I use vi ;-)20:18
Etriaphwillwork4foo: On 15.04 here, never tried plasma in 14.1020:18
* willwork4foo is not much of a coder - more of an ugly script mess hack20:18
willwork4fooEtriaph: I couldn't get 15.04 to install20:19
EtriaphI use vi from time to time.20:19
willwork4fooEtriaph: it wouldn't boot post-install20:19
willwork4foothat's the beta 220:19
Etriaphwillwork4foo: Working fine for me atm.20:19
willwork4fooEtriaph: lucky you....20:19
EtriaphIt's actually really stable now.20:19
wldcordeiroI use Sublime Text primarily with a plugin called Vimperator to give me Vim-like control.20:19
willwork4fooIt didn't seem to want to work at all with encrypted LUKS20:19
Etriaphwillwork4foo: Did you elect to install updates during the install?20:19
willwork4fooEtriaph: ye20:20
willwork4fooEtriaph: yes20:20
Etriaphwillwork4foo: I've had a few glitches here and there, yet on my fairly modern hardware it booted up easy.20:20
willwork4fooEtriaph: I'm running an Asus Vivobook S400CA20:21
willwork4foowith an SSD hard disk and 8GB of RAM - loving KDE 5 on it20:21
willwork4fooit's gorgeous20:21
willwork4fooSadly, I want SDDM to work and it won't.20:21
willwork4fooIs it fairly easy to upgrade from 14.10 to 15.04 beta 2?20:22
willwork4foohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/Beta2/Kubuntu20:24
EtriaphI installed but didn't format.20:24
EtriaphFresh install.20:24
EtriaphYour ~/.kde/ folder from your previous install may not migrate well if you upgrade.20:25
willwork4fooI'll delete it20:25
EtriaphSome stuff lives in ~/.local too20:25
willwork4fooI'm removing all my .files - this is a "test" system20:25
Etriaph*nods*20:26
willwork4fooit has no actual work or stuff I need20:26
willwork4foosudo kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade     - seems to be doing the trick so far.20:27
willwork4foowe shall see.20:27
EtriaphThe only thing Plasma 5 is lacking so far is themes.20:27
willwork4fooI like the default look20:28
willwork4footo be honest20:28
darthanubisthis won't end well20:28
EtriaphOther than that it seems very reliable, much smoother integration with the login manager.20:28
willwork4fooit's refreshing and quite clean20:28
willwork4foothat's sddm20:28
EtriaphYa, Breeze is alright.  I changed the default colours.20:28
willwork4foovery nice - and doesn't work on 14.1020:28
willwork4fooplasma 5 design language reminds me a lot of Android 5 design language20:28
willwork4foovery similar - pastels, smooth blends and clean lines20:29
Etriaphwillwork4foo: It's flat.20:29
EtriaphThat's the design ideology.  :D20:29
willwork4fooEtriaph: I like that. I was never a fan of skeumorphism and fake-3D20:29
Etriaphwillwork4foo: It's nice, but I'm eager for a QtCurve port to Qt520:29
willwork4foothat would be good.20:30
EtriaphThe plasmoid crowd hasn't caught up to it yet either though.20:30
EtriaphI miss my pastebin plasmoid20:30
willwork4fooI'm a relative newcomer to KDE - so I've not played with the plasmoids much20:31
willwork4foonever really needed to20:31
EtriaphIt lets you drag and drop text selections/images onto the drop target and uploads them to a public HTTP server.20:32
willwork4foothat's quite handy20:32
EtriaphVery handy.  I kinda want to create one for gist20:32
willwork4foohas to be said though, Plasma 5 is a damn sight smoother and more fluid in the animations than earlier releases20:33
willwork4foofeels very slick to use.20:33
EtriaphI would imagine that once we hit full Wayland support it'll be a beautiful thing.20:34
willwork4foonot far off that now.20:34
EtriaphI've been running KDE since 0.9220:34
willwork4foofirst time I used KDE was 1.520:34
willwork4foothen I left it and ran screaming20:35
EtriaphLOL20:35
willwork4fooand used olwm / fluxbox for years20:35
EtriaphKDE 2.0 was the first version that demonstrated a move towards tight-integration.20:35
EtriaphI used E for a while.20:35
EtriaphAnd Windowmaker.20:35
willwork4fooI had a look at that20:36
willwork4fooalways preferred fluxbox - I liked the incredible lightweight20:36
EtriaphOn modern workstations those standalone window managers don't shine anymore.20:36
willwork4foohowever, KDE 4.0 looked good enough to play with so I switched back a while ago and moved to Kubuntu - not changing again I think20:36
EtriaphSure they're fast, but lacking in features.20:36
willwork4fooyep.20:36
willwork4fooI got bored with writing scripts to do things myself20:37
Etriaphhaha20:37
willwork4foook - so it's just told me that it's going to take an hour to install all the packages it's just downloaded20:38
willwork4fooI'm going to go do something else for a bit - ttfn20:38
EtriaphTake it easy.20:38
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MichaelTiebeslis there somebody who know where the cantata.conf is based in home in kubuntu?22:43
cup`ocoffeeMichaelTiebesl: did you try locate?22:47
cup`ocoffee'locate cantana.conf' ?22:47
MichaelTiebeslwhen i use the search in dolphin it said not allowed protocol22:48
MichaelTiebeslmaybe krunner i can try22:48
cup`ocoffeelocate is a great tool22:49
cup`ocoffeetry it on the terminal22:49
cup`ocoffeelike konsole or yakuake22:49
valorielocate cantata.conf even....22:49
MichaelTiebeslnot found in konsole22:49
MichaelTiebeslnormally it should be in .conf/cantata22:50
cup`ocoffeeactually I don't know what canatana.conf is for…22:50
MichaelTiebeslthese are the settings from cantata22:50
lordievadercup`ocoffee: Probably for cantata, an mpd client.22:50
MichaelTiebeslso when i make a new install i only have to replace the previous .conf to have the same settings as before22:51
geniimmmm coffee22:51
cup`ocoffee^^22:52
valorieMichaelTiebesl: before Plasma 5, most configs are stored in ~/.kde/share/config22:52
valorieor share/apps22:52
cup`ocoffeemy bad! - I could not find the program in my sources :O - I found it via google now :)22:52
MichaelTiebeslvalorie: correct22:53
valorienow in ~/.config or ~/.local22:53
valoriewith some kde4 era apps still in .kde22:53
MichaelTiebeslits not there in plasma5,  i tried a few desktops with kde but in kubuntu 15.04 its not there22:54
lordievaderMichaelTiebesl: You could allways use strace...22:55
MichaelTiebesllordievader: sorry but what is strace?22:56
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lordievaderProgram to see in great detail what a program does.22:57
cup`ocoffeeMichaelTiebesl: it is possible that the conf-file has to be made by you22:57
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MichaelTiebeslcup`ocoffee: i made a folder with the cantata.conf but no luck with that22:58
cup`ocoffeeit will be a text-file - and you can copy&paste what the install-file says22:58
cup`ocoffeedid you put text into the file?22:58
cup`ocoffeei currently opened the README22:59
MichaelTiebeslno what i do with the conf is replace it with the previous one so i have the same settings as before.22:59
lordievaderIt doesn't access any conf file here.22:59
MichaelTiebeslotherwise i have to configure cantata everytime when i do a fresh install23:00
cup`ocoffeei have no ubuntu-package for it - I just have the source here…23:00
MichaelTiebeslso you can see the cantata.conf is more a backup file for the settings.23:00
cup`ocoffeefrom kde-apps.org23:00
MichaelTiebeslcup`ocoffee: right23:01
cup`ocoffeehow did you install cantana?23:01
cup`ocoffeefrom kde-apps.org as well?23:01
MichaelTiebesland maybe also on github it is23:01
EtriaphGoogle Code I think.23:01
MichaelTiebeslinstall by muon23:01
cup`ocoffeeah, ok23:01
EtriaphThe music player?23:01
MichaelTiebeslEtriaph: yep23:01
EtriaphYup, Google Code project.23:02
lordievaderMichaelTiebesl: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10841359/ is what cantata accesses here.23:02
cup`ocoffeelordievader: no conf23:04
MichaelTiebesllordievader: but there must be a folder in home also, like in cache there is for cantata for the cache of artist and album.png23:04
MichaelTiebeslcup`ocoffee: conf should be in home23:04
MichaelTiebesli already found the mpd.conf on a weird place in home23:04
cup`ocoffee7. Advanced Config Items  KDE builds: ~/.kde/share/config/cantatarc   ( Current User )                 /etc/kde4/cantatarc             ( All Users    )23:07
cup`ocoffeethat's from the README23:07
MichaelTiebeslthats kde4 i think23:07
MichaelTiebesli use now kubuntu 15.0423:07
cup`ocoffeesadly my knowledge ends here :D - Good luck! :)23:08
EtriaphKDE4 apps still run though23:08
valoriesure, and the configs will be in the same place23:09
valorieuntil the app is ported to frameworks23:09
EtriaphKDE-PIM is still KDE4 I think.23:09
valorieyes23:09
valorieone step at a time23:09
EtriaphThey're hard to get a hold of as it turns out.  :D23:10
valoriewho?23:10
Etriaph#kontact is usually dead quiet.23:10
valorieyes, they are usually in #kde-devel though23:10
EtriaphAh, good to know.23:10
valorieor on the mail list23:10
valoriealso, mostly if not all europeans23:10
EtriaphYa, I'm EST.23:10
valorieso for instance, off for the weekend by now....23:10
cup`ocoffee^^23:14

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