[00:31] Hi, Kubuntu 15.04 question, I can't seem to get my panel clock to 24hr time. Seems system settings Region page changes have made this difficult. Is there a file I can manually edit? [00:35] sillymoosee: I want military time as weill [00:36] tuv0k: No luck eh? Guess it wasn't a priority so far to expose custom date via gui... [00:37] no, we can only at present change the zone :( [00:37] seems silly [00:37] it is always the first thing I change [00:38] hey i cant find wine 1.7.40 in wine team ppa. what can i do? [00:45] sillymoosee: This is the bug I raised: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340982 [00:45] KDE bug 340982 in kcm_formats "I cannot set my short date to YYYY-MM-DD, nor my time to HH:MM" [Wishlist,Confirmed] [00:46] tuv0k: You can vote for it also ^^^ [00:49] nice [00:50] mparillo: Thanks for link, that is amazingly LAME. If there's on regression area bound to make users mad, its regional customizations. [00:50] I forsee a lot of user complaints and questions on release hitting forums and IRC... [00:51] When does 15.04 release? [01:02] GunnDawg: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseSchedule === said is now known as kairox [01:54] tuv0k: don't forget to vote on bug, I gave my 2 cents. Off to restore my 14.04 image, I think KDE 5 may need some more work. [01:54] i did [01:54] you gave more than .02 [01:55] yeah, can't logout, babloo_file is a monster [03:43] How can I go about changing the "Favorites" and "Recently Used" icons under the K Menu? === aaron is now known as Guest60569 [06:56] Hellow :) [06:57] I have a problem : [06:57] I have disable WiFi from Plasma5 but I can't enable it [06:58] When I check "WiFi" checkbox, the list is empty [06:58] I had network issues with 14.04 but have resolved them. Scared to switch to 15.04 now :( [06:59] I'm on 15.04 ^^ [06:59] Hello GunnDawg :) [07:00] I know you are, you said Plasma5, I assumed you were using 15.04 [07:00] Wut N [07:00] Wut ? * WiFi work oO' [07:00] I'm quite happy with my 14.04 setup :) [07:01] GunnDawg: But I love Plasma5 / KDE Frameworks 5 [07:02] Aristide: I'd wait until its more stable if you're not willing to put up with possible bugs and the process in which to report those and fix them [07:04] Yes but I like KDE Frameworks 5 [07:04] I havent used it [07:04] I'm happy with what I've got :) [07:05] good morning [07:05] morning [07:08] GunnDawg: ^^ KDE 4 ? [07:08] Aristide: yes [07:09] Aristide: 4.13.3 [07:09] Oh :) [07:09] 5.9 for Frameworks :D [07:10] I prefer a more stable environment [07:10] Ow [07:10] Open a LDLC's computer don't break warranty [07:10] YEAH ! [07:11] I alsu use this for my gaming machine. I need it to be stable and smooth [07:13] GunnDawg: I use for work, play, write, create music ... :3 [07:14] cool [07:38] Aristide: you can use nmcli to troubleshoot a bit [07:38] nmcli d wifi rescan [07:38] nmcli d wifi list [07:39] Ok thank' [07:39] I've heard another report of wifi problems [07:39] xennex81: But its work now :) [07:39] xennex81: Reboot computer has been enought ^ ' [07:39] :) nice [07:40] Even in 14.10 I've had to sometimes shut off network manager and do manual wpa_supplicant because I could not get it to work [07:40] NM is buggy [07:40] has nothing to do with 15.04.... [07:41] I have two root partitions now on my system :). One runs Ubuntu Gnome still (14 GB) the other is 20GB and has Kubuntu 15.04 on it [07:42] I'm thinking to put 14.10 back on the first [07:42] I think I even dreamt of Kubuntu tonight [07:53] hello all === pesa is now known as Guest16257 [08:30] hi sizziff === kubuntu is now known as Guest51778 === havingFun is now known as xrosnight === v3nd3tta is now known as v3nd3tta`` [08:51] hey [08:55] Good morning. === zippy is now known as Guest11587 === Guest60569 is now known as ahoneybun === SwimmerTheMaster is now known as xrosnight === kazak is now known as admin_linux [11:07] morning (afternoon by now) (time goes fast) (or we do) [12:08] ciao [12:21] hi [12:24] Hello Ryoma721, do you have a question? [12:39] hi guys! how can i know from the command line if bluetooth is enabled? [12:39] ciao [12:40] scusate ma per avere la lista e scarica come si fa? [12:44] Hi guys, do I need to install additional package on kubuntu 14.04 [12:44] to connect ipsec vpn? [12:46] Hey folks [12:47] romber: From what I remember, yes. [12:48] well, it's a bad question. My question is.. May I connect ipsec with IKE from Connection editor? [12:49] If you install the apropiate packages yes. [12:58] lordievader, Is there a tutorial? I saw there is a option "OpenSwan" in Connection editor, but I only know the phase1/2 algo and domain [12:59] Err, what kind of ipsec do you use? [13:05] Oh..sorry if I ask a stupid question, I have only very few about vpn. I have a tutorial to connect ipsec VPN for iOS, server/passwd/username/group name and key [13:06] romber: Server implementations matter, IPSec is implemented differently by different daemons. [13:07] s/few/few knowledge [13:07] While it is a standard, and so things should interoperate, it is easier to use one 'brand' of IPsec. For example Strongswan. [13:10] may I connect it if I have those information? [13:11] romber: What kind of ipsec do you use? [13:13] lordievader, Umm, sorry but I don't know.. how to know it ? [13:15] romber: Do you administer the ipsec server? [13:16] No [13:17] Hmm. I guess that you then need to use the good old method of trial and error. [13:17] romber, is this a free vpn server? [13:17] Start with OpenSwan or StrongSwan I suppose. [13:18] BluesKaj, I'm not sure but I think no. [13:20] lordievader, kubuntu 14.04 have build in openswan? because I saw a openswan option in connection editor [13:21] It's in the strongswan-nm package. [13:25] romber, do yuou have ipsec-utilities installed? [13:25] lordievader, OK, I will try it first :) thanks [13:26] BluesKaj. yes I have [13:29] does the server use l2tp-ipsec protocol? [13:31] umm not sure, if I can connect it via iPad does it means yes? [13:33] Not necessarily, IOS (7/8) support IKEv2, IKEv1, l2tp for VPN. [13:36] ok , nevermind the tunneling depends on the server protocol [13:41] how ipad could got those information automatically? [13:43] romber: What information? Most you have to specify yourself. [13:43] this isn't ipad support , so I don't know [14:01] hey hello [14:02] hi MichaelTiebesl [14:03] i see to enjoy this channel it also can be with freenode [14:03] i just installed kubuntu 15.04 and saw this channel was first connected with kubuntu irc [14:03] MichaelTiebesl, it's on the freenode server [14:04] BluesKaj: great then i will stay here [14:04] BluesKaj: kubuntu 15.04 is nice [14:05] yes, kubuntu 15.04 support is at #ubuntu+1 chat [14:05] if you need it , MichaelTiebesl [14:06] im also connected to ubuntu [14:07] BluesKaj: cheers [14:23] BluesKaj and lordievader, thanks I can connect the VPN server now :). It's a cisco server and seams that only need to install network-manager-vpnc and vpnc [14:23] romber: Nice, nice. === lostatwork_ is now known as lostatwork [16:08] hi [16:08] hi Ryoma721 [16:09] my problem i think ahci.... [16:12] after dist-upgrade, restart black screen [16:12] o freeze desktop (15.04) [16:13] ahci to ide [16:13] now works === v3nd3tta`` is now known as v3nd3tta [16:30] thakns for kubuntu === id is now known as david-ec2 === kubuntu is now known as Guest74182 [17:13] cannot ecrypt my home after kubuntu won't start no more. got y [17:13] although i know the mount-pw.. i only see fnek files. (none of the inet tutorial worked out).. help? [17:17] when i use ecryptfs-recover-private only fnek files/directories are shown. [17:19] when i use ecryptfs-mount-private... i can activate use filename encryption.. and it shows me a signature.. that also never works.. [17:20] join#ecrptfs [17:35] hey [17:36] jcjordyn120: hi [17:41] hello === blubberbop is now known as phoenixz === Exposure` is now known as Exposure === CyberSix_ is now known as CyberSix [20:05] Is notify-osd of any use to KDE? [20:05] It's got some problems for me and I'm wondering if it's okay to remove it. [20:06] It seems that a lot of software depends upon it. [20:06] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD [20:06] Etriaph: It keeps getting stuck for me. [20:06] I don't know why but it'll just stay indefinitely [20:06] and it's been driving me insane because then I need to go and kill it. [20:07] Which version of Kubuntu? [20:07] I'm on the 15.04 beta [20:07] Log a bug. [20:07] Link? [20:08] Is it just on launchpad? [20:08] On Launchpad. [20:09] I'm on a fully up to date 15.04 Beta 2 and I don't get that issue, FYI. [20:10] I'm on a fully up to date one as well but I installed from Ubuntu with `apt-get install kubuntu-desktop` and then ran `do-release-update -d` [20:10] So it might be an issue with some configurations. [20:10] Potentially. [20:11] Oh... [20:11] So you're running Ubuntu. [20:11] I don't know how base packaging of both together might affect your user experience. [20:11] I'm KDE only myself. [20:12] I ran apt-get remove for ubuntu-desktop [20:12] to try and remove ubuntu itself. [20:12] I like KDE a lot more now than I've tried it. [20:12] I don't know if I want to try a clean install I have a lot of development stuff on the computer that I don't want to set up again. :/ === Russ is now known as Guest33574 [20:14] s/than/that [20:15] What kind of environment do you work in? [20:15] Languages and such. [20:15] Python, JS, Java, Ruby, Rust [20:16] I work with Rails, I use Kate for everything pretty much. If I'm doing any Java work I use Netbeans. [20:16] Hello all.....i have an old SmartMedia card reader Lexar Media model GS-UFD-20SA-TP and lsusb reads it as Bus 002 Device 003: ID 07cc:0004 Carry Computer Eng., Co., Ltd SM/CF/PCMCIA Card Reader it is not automounting and its FAT16 im pretty sure USB 1.0 or 1.1 or something how do i mount this? [20:17] Etriaph: What's Kate? [20:17] I do Java in the sense that I work with Android in Android Studio. [20:17] Hi all - anyone know of a workaround / fix for sddm going black on boot? Kubuntu 14.10 here with KDE Plasma 5.2 installed [20:18] Kate = KDE Advanced Text Editor [20:18] Etriaph: I use vi ;-) [20:18] willwork4foo: On 15.04 here, never tried plasma in 14.10 [20:18] * willwork4foo is not much of a coder - more of an ugly script mess hack [20:19] Etriaph: I couldn't get 15.04 to install [20:19] I use vi from time to time. [20:19] Etriaph: it wouldn't boot post-install [20:19] that's the beta 2 [20:19] willwork4foo: Working fine for me atm. [20:19] Etriaph: lucky you.... [20:19] It's actually really stable now. [20:19] I use Sublime Text primarily with a plugin called Vimperator to give me Vim-like control. [20:19] It didn't seem to want to work at all with encrypted LUKS [20:19] willwork4foo: Did you elect to install updates during the install? [20:20] Etriaph: ye [20:20] Etriaph: yes [20:20] willwork4foo: I've had a few glitches here and there, yet on my fairly modern hardware it booted up easy. [20:21] Etriaph: I'm running an Asus Vivobook S400CA [20:21] with an SSD hard disk and 8GB of RAM - loving KDE 5 on it [20:21] it's gorgeous [20:21] Sadly, I want SDDM to work and it won't. [20:22] Is it fairly easy to upgrade from 14.10 to 15.04 beta 2? [20:24] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/Beta2/Kubuntu [20:24] I installed but didn't format. [20:24] Fresh install. [20:25] Your ~/.kde/ folder from your previous install may not migrate well if you upgrade. [20:25] I'll delete it [20:25] Some stuff lives in ~/.local too [20:25] I'm removing all my .files - this is a "test" system [20:26] *nods* [20:26] it has no actual work or stuff I need [20:27] sudo kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade - seems to be doing the trick so far. [20:27] we shall see. [20:27] The only thing Plasma 5 is lacking so far is themes. [20:28] I like the default look [20:28] to be honest [20:28] this won't end well [20:28] Other than that it seems very reliable, much smoother integration with the login manager. [20:28] it's refreshing and quite clean [20:28] that's sddm [20:28] Ya, Breeze is alright. I changed the default colours. [20:28] very nice - and doesn't work on 14.10 [20:28] plasma 5 design language reminds me a lot of Android 5 design language [20:29] very similar - pastels, smooth blends and clean lines [20:29] willwork4foo: It's flat. [20:29] That's the design ideology. :D [20:29] Etriaph: I like that. I was never a fan of skeumorphism and fake-3D [20:29] willwork4foo: It's nice, but I'm eager for a QtCurve port to Qt5 [20:30] that would be good. [20:30] The plasmoid crowd hasn't caught up to it yet either though. [20:30] I miss my pastebin plasmoid [20:31] I'm a relative newcomer to KDE - so I've not played with the plasmoids much [20:31] never really needed to [20:32] It lets you drag and drop text selections/images onto the drop target and uploads them to a public HTTP server. [20:32] that's quite handy [20:32] Very handy. I kinda want to create one for gist [20:33] has to be said though, Plasma 5 is a damn sight smoother and more fluid in the animations than earlier releases [20:33] feels very slick to use. [20:34] I would imagine that once we hit full Wayland support it'll be a beautiful thing. [20:34] not far off that now. [20:34] I've been running KDE since 0.92 [20:34] first time I used KDE was 1.5 [20:35] then I left it and ran screaming [20:35] LOL [20:35] and used olwm / fluxbox for years [20:35] KDE 2.0 was the first version that demonstrated a move towards tight-integration. [20:35] I used E for a while. [20:35] And Windowmaker. [20:36] I had a look at that [20:36] always preferred fluxbox - I liked the incredible lightweight [20:36] On modern workstations those standalone window managers don't shine anymore. [20:36] however, KDE 4.0 looked good enough to play with so I switched back a while ago and moved to Kubuntu - not changing again I think [20:36] Sure they're fast, but lacking in features. [20:36] yep. [20:37] I got bored with writing scripts to do things myself [20:37] haha [20:38] ok - so it's just told me that it's going to take an hour to install all the packages it's just downloaded [20:38] I'm going to go do something else for a bit - ttfn [20:38] Take it easy. === SJrX is now known as SJr === aaron is now known as ahoneybun === andrew is now known as alpha32 === alpha32 is now known as Guest18910 === mkv is now known as m4v [22:43] is there somebody who know where the cantata.conf is based in home in kubuntu? [22:47] MichaelTiebesl: did you try locate? [22:47] 'locate cantana.conf' ? [22:48] when i use the search in dolphin it said not allowed protocol [22:48] maybe krunner i can try [22:49] locate is a great tool [22:49] try it on the terminal [22:49] like konsole or yakuake [22:49] locate cantata.conf even.... [22:49] not found in konsole [22:50] normally it should be in .conf/cantata [22:50] actually I don't know what canatana.conf is for… [22:50] these are the settings from cantata [22:50] cup`ocoffee: Probably for cantata, an mpd client. [22:51] so when i make a new install i only have to replace the previous .conf to have the same settings as before [22:51] mmmm coffee [22:52] ^^ [22:52] MichaelTiebesl: before Plasma 5, most configs are stored in ~/.kde/share/config [22:52] or share/apps [22:52] my bad! - I could not find the program in my sources :O - I found it via google now :) [22:53] valorie: correct [22:53] now in ~/.config or ~/.local [22:53] with some kde4 era apps still in .kde [22:54] its not there in plasma5, i tried a few desktops with kde but in kubuntu 15.04 its not there [22:55] MichaelTiebesl: You could allways use strace... [22:56] lordievader: sorry but what is strace? === SonikkuAmerica is now known as S-USA|AlexTrebek [22:57] Program to see in great detail what a program does. [22:57] MichaelTiebesl: it is possible that the conf-file has to be made by you === S-USA|AlexTrebek is now known as SonikkuAmerica [22:58] cup`ocoffee: i made a folder with the cantata.conf but no luck with that [22:58] it will be a text-file - and you can copy&paste what the install-file says [22:58] did you put text into the file? [22:59] i currently opened the README [22:59] no what i do with the conf is replace it with the previous one so i have the same settings as before. [22:59] It doesn't access any conf file here. [23:00] otherwise i have to configure cantata everytime when i do a fresh install [23:00] i have no ubuntu-package for it - I just have the source here… [23:00] so you can see the cantata.conf is more a backup file for the settings. [23:00] from kde-apps.org [23:01] cup`ocoffee: right [23:01] how did you install cantana? [23:01] from kde-apps.org as well? [23:01] and maybe also on github it is [23:01] Google Code I think. [23:01] install by muon [23:01] ah, ok [23:01] The music player? [23:01] Etriaph: yep [23:02] Yup, Google Code project. [23:02] MichaelTiebesl: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10841359/ is what cantata accesses here. [23:04] lordievader: no conf [23:04] lordievader: but there must be a folder in home also, like in cache there is for cantata for the cache of artist and album.png [23:04] cup`ocoffee: conf should be in home [23:04] i already found the mpd.conf on a weird place in home [23:07] 7. Advanced Config Items KDE builds: ~/.kde/share/config/cantatarc ( Current User ) /etc/kde4/cantatarc ( All Users ) [23:07] that's from the README [23:07] thats kde4 i think [23:07] i use now kubuntu 15.04 [23:08] sadly my knowledge ends here :D - Good luck! :) [23:08] KDE4 apps still run though [23:09] sure, and the configs will be in the same place [23:09] until the app is ported to frameworks [23:09] KDE-PIM is still KDE4 I think. [23:09] yes [23:09] one step at a time [23:10] They're hard to get a hold of as it turns out. :D [23:10] who? [23:10] #kontact is usually dead quiet. [23:10] yes, they are usually in #kde-devel though [23:10] Ah, good to know. [23:10] or on the mail list [23:10] also, mostly if not all europeans [23:10] Ya, I'm EST. [23:10] so for instance, off for the weekend by now.... [23:14] ^^