[00:31] <sillymoosee> Hi, Kubuntu 15.04 question, I can't seem to get my panel clock to 24hr time. Seems system settings Region page changes have made this difficult. Is there a file I can manually edit?
[00:35] <tuv0k> sillymoosee: I want military time as weill
[00:36] <sillymoosee> tuv0k: No luck eh? Guess it wasn't a priority so far to expose custom date via gui...
[00:37] <tuv0k> no, we can only at present change the zone :(
[00:37] <tuv0k> seems silly
[00:37] <tuv0k> it is always the first thing I change
[00:38] <voidwalker> hey i cant find wine 1.7.40 in wine team ppa. what can i do?
[00:45] <mparillo> sillymoosee: This is the bug I raised: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340982
[00:46] <mparillo> tuv0k: You can vote for it also ^^^
[00:49] <tuv0k> nice
[00:50] <sillymoosee> mparillo: Thanks for link, that is amazingly LAME. If there's on regression area bound to make users mad, its regional customizations.
[00:50] <sillymoosee> I forsee a lot of user complaints and questions on release hitting forums and IRC...
[00:51] <GunnDawg> When does 15.04 release?
[01:02] <tuv0k> GunnDawg: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseSchedule
[01:54] <sillymoosee> tuv0k: don't forget to vote on bug, I gave my 2 cents. Off to restore my 14.04 image, I think KDE 5 may need some more work.
[01:54] <darthanubis> i did
[01:54] <darthanubis> you gave more than .02
[01:55] <darthanubis> yeah, can't logout, babloo_file is a monster
[03:43] <GunnDawg> How can I go about changing the "Favorites" and "Recently Used" icons under the K Menu?
[06:56] <Aristide> Hellow :)
[06:57] <Aristide> I have a problem :
[06:57] <Aristide> I have disable WiFi from Plasma5 but I can't enable it
[06:58] <Aristide> When I check "WiFi" checkbox, the list is empty
[06:58] <GunnDawg> I had network issues with 14.04 but have resolved them. Scared to switch to 15.04 now :(
[06:59] <Aristide> I'm on 15.04 ^^
[06:59] <Aristide> Hello GunnDawg :)
[07:00] <GunnDawg> I know you are, you said Plasma5, I assumed you were using 15.04
[07:00] <Aristide> Wut N
[07:00] <Aristide> Wut ? * WiFi work oO'
[07:00] <GunnDawg> I'm quite happy with my 14.04 setup :)
[07:01] <Aristide> GunnDawg: But I love Plasma5 / KDE Frameworks 5
[07:02] <GunnDawg> Aristide: I'd wait until its more stable if you're not willing to put up with possible bugs and the process in which to report those and fix them
[07:04] <Aristide> Yes but I like KDE Frameworks 5
[07:04] <GunnDawg> I havent used it
[07:04] <GunnDawg> I'm happy with what I've got :)
[07:05] <soee> good morning
[07:05] <GunnDawg> morning
[07:08] <Aristide> GunnDawg: ^^ KDE 4 ?
[07:08] <GunnDawg> Aristide: yes
[07:09] <GunnDawg> Aristide: 4.13.3
[07:09] <Aristide> Oh :)
[07:09] <Aristide> 5.9 for Frameworks :D
[07:10] <GunnDawg> I prefer a more stable environment
[07:10] <Aristide> Ow
[07:10] <Aristide> Open a LDLC's computer don't break warranty
[07:10] <Aristide> YEAH !
[07:11] <GunnDawg> I alsu use this for my gaming machine. I need it to be stable and smooth
[07:13] <Aristide> GunnDawg: I use for work, play, write, create music ... :3
[07:14] <GunnDawg> cool
[07:38] <xennex81> Aristide: you can use nmcli to troubleshoot a bit
[07:38] <xennex81> nmcli d wifi rescan
[07:38] <xennex81> nmcli d wifi list
[07:39] <Aristide> Ok thank'
[07:39] <valorie> I've heard another report of wifi problems
[07:39] <Aristide> xennex81: But its work now :)
[07:39] <Aristide> xennex81: Reboot computer has been enought ^ '
[07:39] <xennex81> :) nice
[07:40] <xennex81> Even in 14.10 I've had to sometimes shut off network manager and do manual wpa_supplicant because I could not get it to work
[07:40] <xennex81> NM is buggy
[07:40] <xennex81> has nothing to do with 15.04....
[07:41] <xennex81> I have two root partitions now on my system :). One runs Ubuntu Gnome still (14 GB) the other is 20GB and has Kubuntu 15.04 on it
[07:42] <xennex81> I'm thinking to put 14.10 back on the first
[07:42] <xennex81> I think I even dreamt of Kubuntu tonight
[07:53] <sizziff> hello all
[08:30] <xennex81> hi sizziff
[08:51] <gear> hey
[08:55] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:07] <xennex81> morning (afternoon by now) (time goes fast) (or we do)
[12:08] <Ryoma721> ciao
[12:21] <Ryoma721> hi
[12:24] <hateball> Hello Ryoma721, do you have a question?
[12:39] <kde_newbie> hi guys! how can i know from the command line if bluetooth is enabled?
[12:39] <manolo_> ciao
[12:40] <manolo_> scusate ma per avere la lista e scarica come si fa?
[12:44] <romber> Hi guys, do I need to install additional package on kubuntu 14.04
[12:44] <romber> to connect ipsec vpn?
[12:46] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:47] <lordievader> romber: From what I remember, yes.
[12:48] <romber> well, it's a bad question. My question is.. May I connect ipsec with IKE from Connection editor?
[12:49] <lordievader> If you install the apropiate packages yes.
[12:58] <romber> lordievader, Is there a tutorial? I saw there is a option "OpenSwan" in Connection editor, but I only know the phase1/2 algo and domain
[12:59] <lordievader> Err, what kind of ipsec do you use?
[13:05] <romber> Oh..sorry if I ask a stupid question, I have only very few  about vpn. I have a tutorial to connect ipsec VPN for iOS, server/passwd/username/group name and key
[13:06] <lordievader> romber: Server implementations matter, IPSec is implemented differently by different daemons.
[13:07] <romber> s/few/few knowledge
[13:07] <lordievader> While it is a standard, and so things should interoperate, it is easier to use one 'brand' of IPsec. For example Strongswan.
[13:10] <romber> may I connect it if I have those information?
[13:11] <lordievader> romber: What kind of ipsec do you use?
[13:13] <romber> lordievader, Umm, sorry but I don't know.. how to know it ?
[13:15] <lordievader> romber: Do you administer the ipsec server?
[13:16] <romber> No
[13:17] <lordievader> Hmm. I guess that you then need to use the good old method of trial and error.
[13:17] <BluesKaj> romber, is this a free vpn server?
[13:17] <lordievader> Start with OpenSwan or StrongSwan I suppose.
[13:18] <romber> BluesKaj, I'm not sure but I think no.
[13:20] <romber> lordievader, kubuntu 14.04 have build in openswan? because I saw a openswan option in connection editor
[13:21] <lordievader> It's in the strongswan-nm package.
[13:25] <BluesKaj> romber, do yuou have ipsec-utilities installed?
[13:25] <romber> lordievader, OK, I will try it first :) thanks
[13:26] <romber> BluesKaj. yes I have
[13:29] <BluesKaj> does the server use l2tp-ipsec protocol?
[13:31] <romber> umm not sure, if I can connect it via iPad does it means yes?
[13:33] <lordievader> Not necessarily, IOS (7/8) support IKEv2, IKEv1, l2tp for VPN.
[13:36] <BluesKaj> ok , nevermind the tunneling depends on the server protocol
[13:41] <romber> how ipad could got those information automatically?
[13:43] <lordievader> romber: What information? Most you have to specify yourself.
[13:43] <BluesKaj> this isn't ipad support , so I don't know
[14:01] <MichaelTiebesl> hey hello
[14:02] <BluesKaj> hi MichaelTiebesl
[14:03] <MichaelTiebesl> i see to enjoy this channel it also can be with freenode
[14:03] <MichaelTiebesl> i just installed kubuntu 15.04 and saw this channel was first connected with kubuntu irc
[14:03] <BluesKaj> MichaelTiebesl, it's on the freenode server
[14:04] <MichaelTiebesl> BluesKaj: great then i will stay here
[14:04] <MichaelTiebesl> BluesKaj: kubuntu 15.04 is nice
[14:05] <BluesKaj> yes, kubuntu 15.04 support is at #ubuntu+1 chat
[14:05] <BluesKaj> if you need it , MichaelTiebesl
[14:06] <MichaelTiebesl> im also connected to ubuntu
[14:07] <MichaelTiebesl> BluesKaj: cheers
[14:23] <romber> BluesKaj and lordievader, thanks I can connect the VPN server now :). It's a cisco server and seams that only need to install network-manager-vpnc and vpnc
[14:23] <lordievader> romber: Nice, nice.
[16:08] <Ryoma721> hi
[16:08] <BluesKaj> hi Ryoma721
[16:09] <Ryoma721> my problem i think ahci....
[16:12] <Ryoma721> after dist-upgrade, restart black screen
[16:12] <Ryoma721> o freeze desktop (15.04)
[16:13] <Ryoma721> ahci to ide
[16:13] <Ryoma721> now works
[16:30] <Ryoma721> thakns for kubuntu
[17:13] <bob420> cannot ecrypt my home after kubuntu won't start no more. got y
[17:13] <bob420> although i know the mount-pw.. i only see fnek files. (none of the inet tutorial worked out).. help?
[17:17] <bob420> when i use ecryptfs-recover-private only fnek files/directories are shown.
[17:19] <bob420> when i use ecryptfs-mount-private... i can activate use filename encryption.. and it shows me a signature.. that also never works..
[17:20] <bob420> join#ecrptfs
[17:35] <jcjordyn120> hey
[17:36] <drw> jcjordyn120: hi
[17:41] <jcjordyn120> hello
[20:05] <wldcordeiro> Is notify-osd of any use to KDE?
[20:05] <wldcordeiro> It's got some problems for me and I'm wondering if it's okay to remove it.
[20:06] <Etriaph> It seems that a lot of software depends upon it.
[20:06] <Etriaph> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD
[20:06] <wldcordeiro> Etriaph: It keeps getting stuck for me.
[20:06] <wldcordeiro> I don't know why but it'll just stay indefinitely
[20:06] <wldcordeiro> and it's been driving me insane because then I need to go and kill it.
[20:07] <Etriaph> Which version of Kubuntu?
[20:07] <wldcordeiro> I'm on the 15.04 beta
[20:07] <Etriaph> Log a bug.
[20:07] <wldcordeiro> Link?
[20:08] <wldcordeiro> Is it just on launchpad?
[20:08] <Etriaph> On Launchpad.
[20:09] <Etriaph> I'm on a fully up to date 15.04 Beta 2 and I don't get that issue, FYI.
[20:10] <wldcordeiro> I'm on a fully up to date one as well but I installed from Ubuntu with `apt-get install kubuntu-desktop` and then ran `do-release-update -d`
[20:10] <wldcordeiro> So it might be an issue with some configurations.
[20:10] <Etriaph> Potentially.
[20:11] <Etriaph> Oh...
[20:11] <Etriaph> So you're running Ubuntu.
[20:11] <Etriaph> I don't know how base packaging of both together might affect your user experience.
[20:11] <Etriaph> I'm KDE only myself.
[20:12] <wldcordeiro> I ran apt-get remove for ubuntu-desktop
[20:12] <wldcordeiro> to try and remove ubuntu itself.
[20:12] <wldcordeiro> I like KDE a lot more now than I've tried it.
[20:12] <wldcordeiro> I don't know if I want to try a clean install I have a lot of development stuff on the computer that I don't want to set up again. :/
[20:14] <wldcordeiro> s/than/that
[20:15] <Etriaph> What kind of environment do you work in?
[20:15] <Etriaph> Languages and such.
[20:15] <wldcordeiro> Python, JS, Java, Ruby, Rust
[20:16] <Etriaph> I work with Rails, I use Kate for everything pretty much.  If I'm doing any Java work I use Netbeans.
[20:16] <Guest33574> Hello all.....i have an old SmartMedia card reader Lexar Media model GS-UFD-20SA-TP and lsusb reads it as Bus 002 Device 003: ID 07cc:0004 Carry Computer Eng., Co., Ltd SM/CF/PCMCIA Card Reader it is not automounting and its FAT16 im pretty sure USB 1.0 or 1.1 or something how do i mount this?
[20:17] <wldcordeiro> Etriaph: What's Kate?
[20:17] <wldcordeiro> I do Java in the sense that I work with Android in Android Studio.
[20:17] <willwork4foo> Hi all - anyone know of a workaround / fix for sddm going black on boot? Kubuntu 14.10 here with KDE Plasma 5.2 installed
[20:18] <Etriaph> Kate = KDE Advanced Text Editor
[20:18] <willwork4foo> Etriaph: I use vi ;-)
[20:18] <Etriaph> willwork4foo: On 15.04 here, never tried plasma in 14.10
[20:18]  * willwork4foo is not much of a coder - more of an ugly script mess hack
[20:19] <willwork4foo> Etriaph: I couldn't get 15.04 to install
[20:19] <Etriaph> I use vi from time to time.
[20:19] <willwork4foo> Etriaph: it wouldn't boot post-install
[20:19] <willwork4foo> that's the beta 2
[20:19] <Etriaph> willwork4foo: Working fine for me atm.
[20:19] <willwork4foo> Etriaph: lucky you....
[20:19] <Etriaph> It's actually really stable now.
[20:19] <wldcordeiro> I use Sublime Text primarily with a plugin called Vimperator to give me Vim-like control.
[20:19] <willwork4foo> It didn't seem to want to work at all with encrypted LUKS
[20:19] <Etriaph> willwork4foo: Did you elect to install updates during the install?
[20:20] <willwork4foo> Etriaph: ye
[20:20] <willwork4foo> Etriaph: yes
[20:20] <Etriaph> willwork4foo: I've had a few glitches here and there, yet on my fairly modern hardware it booted up easy.
[20:21] <willwork4foo> Etriaph: I'm running an Asus Vivobook S400CA
[20:21] <willwork4foo> with an SSD hard disk and 8GB of RAM - loving KDE 5 on it
[20:21] <willwork4foo> it's gorgeous
[20:21] <willwork4foo> Sadly, I want SDDM to work and it won't.
[20:22] <willwork4foo> Is it fairly easy to upgrade from 14.10 to 15.04 beta 2?
[20:24] <willwork4foo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/Beta2/Kubuntu
[20:24] <Etriaph> I installed but didn't format.
[20:24] <Etriaph> Fresh install.
[20:25] <Etriaph> Your ~/.kde/ folder from your previous install may not migrate well if you upgrade.
[20:25] <willwork4foo> I'll delete it
[20:25] <Etriaph> Some stuff lives in ~/.local too
[20:25] <willwork4foo> I'm removing all my .files - this is a "test" system
[20:26] <Etriaph> *nods*
[20:26] <willwork4foo> it has no actual work or stuff I need
[20:27] <willwork4foo> sudo kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade     - seems to be doing the trick so far.
[20:27] <willwork4foo> we shall see.
[20:27] <Etriaph> The only thing Plasma 5 is lacking so far is themes.
[20:28] <willwork4foo> I like the default look
[20:28] <willwork4foo> to be honest
[20:28] <darthanubis> this won't end well
[20:28] <Etriaph> Other than that it seems very reliable, much smoother integration with the login manager.
[20:28] <willwork4foo> it's refreshing and quite clean
[20:28] <willwork4foo> that's sddm
[20:28] <Etriaph> Ya, Breeze is alright.  I changed the default colours.
[20:28] <willwork4foo> very nice - and doesn't work on 14.10
[20:28] <willwork4foo> plasma 5 design language reminds me a lot of Android 5 design language
[20:29] <willwork4foo> very similar - pastels, smooth blends and clean lines
[20:29] <Etriaph> willwork4foo: It's flat.
[20:29] <Etriaph> That's the design ideology.  :D
[20:29] <willwork4foo> Etriaph: I like that. I was never a fan of skeumorphism and fake-3D
[20:29] <Etriaph> willwork4foo: It's nice, but I'm eager for a QtCurve port to Qt5
[20:30] <willwork4foo> that would be good.
[20:30] <Etriaph> The plasmoid crowd hasn't caught up to it yet either though.
[20:30] <Etriaph> I miss my pastebin plasmoid
[20:31] <willwork4foo> I'm a relative newcomer to KDE - so I've not played with the plasmoids much
[20:31] <willwork4foo> never really needed to
[20:32] <Etriaph> It lets you drag and drop text selections/images onto the drop target and uploads them to a public HTTP server.
[20:32] <willwork4foo> that's quite handy
[20:32] <Etriaph> Very handy.  I kinda want to create one for gist
[20:33] <willwork4foo> has to be said though, Plasma 5 is a damn sight smoother and more fluid in the animations than earlier releases
[20:33] <willwork4foo> feels very slick to use.
[20:34] <Etriaph> I would imagine that once we hit full Wayland support it'll be a beautiful thing.
[20:34] <willwork4foo> not far off that now.
[20:34] <Etriaph> I've been running KDE since 0.92
[20:34] <willwork4foo> first time I used KDE was 1.5
[20:35] <willwork4foo> then I left it and ran screaming
[20:35] <Etriaph> LOL
[20:35] <willwork4foo> and used olwm / fluxbox for years
[20:35] <Etriaph> KDE 2.0 was the first version that demonstrated a move towards tight-integration.
[20:35] <Etriaph> I used E for a while.
[20:35] <Etriaph> And Windowmaker.
[20:36] <willwork4foo> I had a look at that
[20:36] <willwork4foo> always preferred fluxbox - I liked the incredible lightweight
[20:36] <Etriaph> On modern workstations those standalone window managers don't shine anymore.
[20:36] <willwork4foo> however, KDE 4.0 looked good enough to play with so I switched back a while ago and moved to Kubuntu - not changing again I think
[20:36] <Etriaph> Sure they're fast, but lacking in features.
[20:36] <willwork4foo> yep.
[20:37] <willwork4foo> I got bored with writing scripts to do things myself
[20:37] <Etriaph> haha
[20:38] <willwork4foo> ok - so it's just told me that it's going to take an hour to install all the packages it's just downloaded
[20:38] <willwork4foo> I'm going to go do something else for a bit - ttfn
[20:38] <Etriaph> Take it easy.
[22:43] <MichaelTiebesl> is there somebody who know where the cantata.conf is based in home in kubuntu?
[22:47] <cup`ocoffee> MichaelTiebesl: did you try locate?
[22:47] <cup`ocoffee> 'locate cantana.conf' ?
[22:48] <MichaelTiebesl> when i use the search in dolphin it said not allowed protocol
[22:48] <MichaelTiebesl> maybe krunner i can try
[22:49] <cup`ocoffee> locate is a great tool
[22:49] <cup`ocoffee> try it on the terminal
[22:49] <cup`ocoffee> like konsole or yakuake
[22:49] <valorie> locate cantata.conf even....
[22:49] <MichaelTiebesl> not found in konsole
[22:50] <MichaelTiebesl> normally it should be in .conf/cantata
[22:50] <cup`ocoffee> actually I don't know what canatana.conf is for…
[22:50] <MichaelTiebesl> these are the settings from cantata
[22:50] <lordievader> cup`ocoffee: Probably for cantata, an mpd client.
[22:51] <MichaelTiebesl> so when i make a new install i only have to replace the previous .conf to have the same settings as before
[22:51] <genii> mmmm coffee
[22:52] <cup`ocoffee> ^^
[22:52] <valorie> MichaelTiebesl: before Plasma 5, most configs are stored in ~/.kde/share/config
[22:52] <valorie> or share/apps
[22:52] <cup`ocoffee> my bad! - I could not find the program in my sources :O - I found it via google now :)
[22:53] <MichaelTiebesl> valorie: correct
[22:53] <valorie> now in ~/.config or ~/.local
[22:53] <valorie> with some kde4 era apps still in .kde
[22:54] <MichaelTiebesl> its not there in plasma5,  i tried a few desktops with kde but in kubuntu 15.04 its not there
[22:55] <lordievader> MichaelTiebesl: You could allways use strace...
[22:56] <MichaelTiebesl> lordievader: sorry but what is strace?
[22:57] <lordievader> Program to see in great detail what a program does.
[22:57] <cup`ocoffee> MichaelTiebesl: it is possible that the conf-file has to be made by you
[22:58] <MichaelTiebesl> cup`ocoffee: i made a folder with the cantata.conf but no luck with that
[22:58] <cup`ocoffee> it will be a text-file - and you can copy&paste what the install-file says
[22:58] <cup`ocoffee> did you put text into the file?
[22:59] <cup`ocoffee> i currently opened the README
[22:59] <MichaelTiebesl> no what i do with the conf is replace it with the previous one so i have the same settings as before.
[22:59] <lordievader> It doesn't access any conf file here.
[23:00] <MichaelTiebesl> otherwise i have to configure cantata everytime when i do a fresh install
[23:00] <cup`ocoffee> i have no ubuntu-package for it - I just have the source here…
[23:00] <MichaelTiebesl> so you can see the cantata.conf is more a backup file for the settings.
[23:00] <cup`ocoffee> from kde-apps.org
[23:01] <MichaelTiebesl> cup`ocoffee: right
[23:01] <cup`ocoffee> how did you install cantana?
[23:01] <cup`ocoffee> from kde-apps.org as well?
[23:01] <MichaelTiebesl> and maybe also on github it is
[23:01] <Etriaph> Google Code I think.
[23:01] <MichaelTiebesl> install by muon
[23:01] <cup`ocoffee> ah, ok
[23:01] <Etriaph> The music player?
[23:01] <MichaelTiebesl> Etriaph: yep
[23:02] <Etriaph> Yup, Google Code project.
[23:02] <lordievader> MichaelTiebesl: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10841359/ is what cantata accesses here.
[23:04] <cup`ocoffee> lordievader: no conf
[23:04] <MichaelTiebesl> lordievader: but there must be a folder in home also, like in cache there is for cantata for the cache of artist and album.png
[23:04] <MichaelTiebesl> cup`ocoffee: conf should be in home
[23:04] <MichaelTiebesl> i already found the mpd.conf on a weird place in home
[23:07] <cup`ocoffee> 7. Advanced Config Items  KDE builds: ~/.kde/share/config/cantatarc   ( Current User )                 /etc/kde4/cantatarc             ( All Users    )
[23:07] <cup`ocoffee> that's from the README
[23:07] <MichaelTiebesl> thats kde4 i think
[23:07] <MichaelTiebesl> i use now kubuntu 15.04
[23:08] <cup`ocoffee> sadly my knowledge ends here :D - Good luck! :)
[23:08] <Etriaph> KDE4 apps still run though
[23:09] <valorie> sure, and the configs will be in the same place
[23:09] <valorie> until the app is ported to frameworks
[23:09] <Etriaph> KDE-PIM is still KDE4 I think.
[23:09] <valorie> yes
[23:09] <valorie> one step at a time
[23:10] <Etriaph> They're hard to get a hold of as it turns out.  :D
[23:10] <valorie> who?
[23:10] <Etriaph> #kontact is usually dead quiet.
[23:10] <valorie> yes, they are usually in #kde-devel though
[23:10] <Etriaph> Ah, good to know.
[23:10] <valorie> or on the mail list
[23:10] <valorie> also, mostly if not all europeans
[23:10] <Etriaph> Ya, I'm EST.
[23:10] <valorie> so for instance, off for the weekend by now....
[23:14] <cup`ocoffee> ^^